[00:15] <flexiondotorg> qengho_ I've just seen your email to John. Nice one! Thanks very much for your help.
[00:17] <qengho_> flexiondotorg: my pleasure to help.
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[06:00] <hikiko> hi
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[09:02] <Laney> HELLO!
[09:02] <willcooke> HI!
[09:02] <seb128> hey Laney willcooke
[09:04] <Laney> hey seb128, hey willcooke
[09:04] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:04] <willcooke> how's it going seb128, Laney
[09:05] <seb128> good! I had tennis lessons yesterday, we played double and look at the strategies that can be used, was nice
[09:05] <seb128> you?
[09:05] <willcooke> same
[09:05] <didrocks> hey Laney, willcooke. Re seb128
[09:05] <willcooke> ;D
[09:05] <willcooke> morning dadrocks
[09:06] <Laney> hey dodrocks
[09:06] <didrocks> :p
[09:06] <Laney> yeah, good
[09:06] <Laney> did some errands and stuff yesterday then watched Sherlock in the evening
[09:06] <Laney> this series was a bit silly
[09:06] <Laney> but still fun
[09:07] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:09] <didrocks> what season/episod?
[09:09] <didrocks> hey davmor2
[09:09] <flexiondotorg> Morning Laney didrocks willcooke seb128 hikiko
[09:09] <didrocks> morning flexiondotorg
[09:11] <Laney> didrocks: I think it's series 4
[09:11] <Laney> was on a few weeks ago
[09:14] <seb128> hey davmor2 flexiondotorg
[09:16] <Laney> hey flexiondotorg, aloha davmor2
[09:16]  * Laney is getting told off by IS via automated emails
[09:16]  * Laney trembles
[09:22] <Laney> landscape is timing out though
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[09:38] <seb128> Laney, "Landscape and Ksplice Uptrack Check "?
[09:38] <seb128> I'm getting some of those as well
[09:38] <Laney> yeah that
[09:38] <Laney> what do you get it for?
[09:39] <seb128> langpacks
[09:39] <Laney> didn't know those were in the cloud :-o
[09:39] <seb128> hehe
[11:59]  * didrocks welcomes pitti as Hugo users :)
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[12:14]  * flexiondotorg thinks pitti should've getnikola.com ;-)
[12:29] <Sweet5hark> jbicha: congrats to your LibreOffice contribution. Welcome onboard! :)
[12:31] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: well, you need to install a python stack though
[12:31] <flexiondotorg> snap install nikola
[12:32] <didrocks> hugo upstream is really reactive, just sent some PR and it was already merged :)
[12:40] <jbicha> Sweet5hark: my 2nd LO commit was accepted in 5 min which seems crazy fast to me https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/33973/
[12:43] <Sweet5hark> jbicha: we should be very quick with non code changes. The risk that they bring instability or regressions is low. keep them coming ;)
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[13:05] <pitti> didrocks: oh, you are using that too?
[13:08] <Laney> just got a £15 eurostar voucher for the delays ...
[13:11] <didrocks> pitti: yeah! Moved to it over the christmas holidays (https://didrocks.fr/), I wanted to blog as well about it. Using caddy for serving those static files and handling let's encrypt certificate. Result: I just git push to https://github.com/didrocks/website, and then, a webhook rebuild the website!
[13:12] <pitti> didrocks: hah, neat!
[13:13] <didrocks> pitti: I wasn't using wordpress though but dotclear. So needed to write my own importer. Took me a little bit more time than you I guess :)
[13:13] <pitti> didrocks: you have an extra + in your googleplus property, drop it (https://plus.google.com/++DidierRoche doesn't exist)
[13:14]  * desrt randomly hugs pitti
[13:14] <didrocks> pitti: oh, correct, thanks for noticing!
[13:15]  * pitti hugs desrt back -- how was your Leuven pub crawl?
[13:15] <desrt> wasn't much of a pub crawl in the end, in fact... leuven was pretty dead on a sunday night, so we went back to sanne's house and cooked and hung out there
[13:15] <desrt> but was very nice, thanks :)
[13:16] <desrt> was your trip home sufficiently uneventful?
[13:16] <pitti> yeah, it was, all worked impeccably
[13:16] <desrt> ♥ ICE
[13:16] <pitti> was nice to go with tdaitx
[13:17] <desrt> is that michael's nick?
[13:17] <pitti> zipping through the night with 300 km/h :)
[13:17] <desrt> oh wait.  that was the other guy you went with by train, ya?
[13:17] <pitti> desrt: no, Tiago's
[13:17] <desrt> right
[13:17] <pitti> desrt: he's in the foundations team :)
[13:17] <desrt> i'm bad with newbies
[13:17] <Laney> newbie is > 2008, right?
[13:18] <desrt> ya.  pretty much.
[13:18] <pitti> (> 1.5a, just saying)
[13:18] <desrt> employee_number > 100
[13:19] <desrt> back in köln, life returns to normal
[13:19] <desrt> everything feels very good
[14:13] <GunnarHj> seb128: Hi Sebastien, reminding you of two pending items: 1. Language pack update xenial, and 2. bug #1655782. A new delta language pack seems to have been created last Sunday.
[14:13] <ubot5> bug 1655782 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) "Elfdalian layout + merge with Debian 2.19-1" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1655782
[14:26] <hikiko> seb128, do you know how to store a git project in bzr?
[14:26] <hikiko> should I use the bzr-git tool
[14:26] <hikiko> that is in the repos?
[14:32] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, right, still on my list!
[14:32] <seb128> hikiko, why do you want to do that?
[14:32] <hikiko> seb128, chromium uses git by default
[14:33] <seb128> hikiko, why do you want to put it in bzr?
[14:33] <hikiko> and it seems to work :D
[14:33] <hikiko> with bzr-git installed you just run bzr commands
[14:33] <hikiko> seb128, it has 1million files
[14:34] <seb128> well, whatever works for you, but would be better to work with git if that's what they use no?
[14:34] <hikiko> yes
[14:34] <hikiko> but I have to push it to bzr
[14:34] <hikiko> to lp sorry
[14:34] <seb128> lp does git
[14:34] <seb128> hikiko, https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git
[14:34] <hikiko> so git push lp:~ ...
[14:35] <seb128> hikiko, read ^
[14:35] <hikiko> cool :)
[14:35] <hikiko> yeah
[14:35] <hikiko> thanks seb128
[14:35] <seb128> yw!
[14:38] <qengho_> hikiko: It would be nice if git had a humane UI.
[14:42] <GunnarHj> seb128: The plan is to call for testing on Thursday via a message like this:
[14:42] <GunnarHj> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2016-October/007251.html
[14:42] <GunnarHj> Will you be able to get them in -proposed by then?
[14:42] <GunnarHj> It would be good to get this done before translations are opened for zesty, since the latter will make the translators busy.
[14:46] <seb128> GunnarHj, I'm going to try yes ... did you get a response from wgrant about zesty opening?
[14:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: Nope.
[14:46] <seb128> :-(
[14:46] <seb128> try email maybe?
[14:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok.
[14:46] <seb128> thanks
[15:00] <Trevinho> hey guys...
[15:00] <Trevinho> mitya57: hi, would you mind to check https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1600136/comments/14 ?
[15:00] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1600136 in snapd (Ubuntu) "App indicator does not show icon for Qt apps or with custom icons" [High,In progress]
[15:27] <Laney> afternoon Trevinho ...
[15:30] <willcooke> it's that time again
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-02-07
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb  7 15:30:27 2017 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:30] <willcooke> Lots of people out today
[15:30] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock (out), attente, desrt,  dgadomski(out), fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron (hols), hikiko, laney, qengho (out), seb128, sweet5hark (out), themuso (out), tkamppeter (hols), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[15:30] <hikiko> hi
[15:30] <seb128> hey Trevinho!
[15:30] <seb128> _o/
[15:30] <flexiondotorg> o/
[15:31] <qengho_> Hey! I'm here.
[15:31] <Trevinho> o/
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[15:31] <Trevinho> (hi seb128)
[15:31] <Trevinho> (and Laney )
[15:31] <Trevinho> (and others...)
[15:31] <desrt> word.
[15:33] <willcooke> let's start
[15:33] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
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[15:33] <willcooke> # worked on u8 branches after review
[15:33] <willcooke> # some reviews
[15:33] <willcooke> #topic attente
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[15:33] <attente> hey
[15:33] <attente> set up a ppa for general gtk-mir testing: https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/ubuntu/gtk-mir
[15:33] <attente> best to test with miral-shell instead of u8. there are some weird scaling issues with u8 (doesn't render windows if the width or height are greater than 480 o.O)
[15:34] <attente> (eof)
[15:34] <willcooke> nice one, thanks attente
[15:34] <willcooke> #topic desrt
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[15:34] <desrt> hai
[15:34] <desrt> had a couple of part days due to travel, but still a pretty good week
[15:34] <desrt> lots of good conversations at fosdem, and reviewed a bunch of patches (in-person nagging is very effective)
[15:35] <desrt> work continues on the proxy.  it's shaping up pretty nicely, and i expect it to be usableish by next meeting
[15:35] <desrt> apparmor patches still outstanding :/
[15:35]  * willcooke makes a note to chase again
[15:35] <desrt> basically, aiming for gnome freezes here
[15:35] <desrt> eof
[15:36] <attente> feature freeze in a little over a week too...
[15:36] <willcooke> thanks desrt
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
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[15:36] <willcooke> * working on bug #1598183 (testing patches suggested in upstream bug)
[15:36] <willcooke> * trying to reproduce bug #1646585
[15:36] <willcooke> * researching for bug #1654696
[15:36] <ubot5> bug 1598183 in gvfs "Operation not permitted while writing to symlinked fuse locations" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598183
[15:36] <ubot5> bug 1646585 in Nvidia "oem-config replaces /etc/resolv.conf symlink with a hard file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1646585
[15:36] <ubot5> bug 1654696 in Nvidia "Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop ubiquity documentation is lacking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1654696
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
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[15:36] <FJKong> hi
[15:37] <FJKong> could you give me 1 min to prepare the update?
[15:37] <willcooke> FJKong, sure
[15:37] <FJKong> thx
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic flexiondotorg
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[15:37] <flexiondotorg> Time appropriate greetings!
[15:37] <flexiondotorg> - Providing snap assistance to about a dozen ISVs and upstream projects currently.
[15:37] <flexiondotorg> - Drinking our own champagne. If there is a snap I've apt purged the debs and installed the snaps.
[15:37] <flexiondotorg> - Spotify snap tested by Spotify. Had feedback from Spotify, more improvements in progress and close to upstreaming. Meeting with them on Thursday.
[15:37] <flexiondotorg> - Assisting the Raspberry Pi Foundation with adding AppArmor to their kernel.
[15:37] <flexiondotorg> - Introduced Chad to John Cox from the Raspberry Pi Foundation regarding Chromium patches.
[15:37] <flexiondotorg> - Tested snaps, in particular classic snaps, on Ubuntu 14.04 (broken, but being fixed) and Debian 9 (working). snapd in Debian has had reexec reinstated recently.
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> - Helping some upstream Electron apps get snapping using pure Snapcraft and electron-builder. This is preparation ahead of more focused out reach to a number of high profile Electron projects.
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> 🎬
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks flexiondotorg
[15:38] <hikiko> +nice ascii
[15:38] <flexiondotorg> snap install emoj ;-)
[15:39] <willcooke> flexiondotorg, hikiko is working on the Mir b/e for Cr.  That will help / be of interest to Electron apps too soon.
[15:39] <willcooke> (plus andyrock is going to be helping on that too)
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic hikiko
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[15:39] <hikiko> hi
[15:39] <hikiko> chromium: learning how gn and ninja work - i am now able to get compile errors
[15:39] <hikiko> from an almost empty "mir platform" under ozone (chromium doesn't use makefiles),
[15:39] <hikiko> got a look at mirclient code and mir basics, mir/miral servers etc
[15:39] <hikiko> lowgfx: fixed compiz (old lowgfx parts), some errors, about to do the review's fixes in ucc
[15:40] <hikiko> eof :)
[15:40] <hikiko> sorry
[15:40] <willcooke> thanks hikiko
[15:40] <willcooke> :)
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic Laney
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[15:41] <Laney> ah crap, finding an emoji, one sec
[15:41] <Laney> OK!
[15:41] <Laney> • Went to FOSDEM - travelled & had a swap day
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ pink killer
[15:41] <Laney> • Verified gst 1.8.3 for xenial. It got released, but turns out there's a problem in -libav. Was only in proposed for like 3 months. Debugged that and filed an upstream bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778283 to see how they want it to be fixed.
[15:41] <willcooke> lol
[15:41] <ubot5> Gnome bug 778283 in gst-libav "gst-libav 1.8.3 loses encoders/decoders vs 1.8.2 when built with system ffmpeg 2.8.10" [Normal,New]
[15:41] <desrt> ...the important things in life
[15:41] <Laney> • asgen
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ worked on & pushed an efficiency improvement around base suites & stable releases
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ backported appstream to x/y
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ updated asgen in staging, tested the above fix, updated in production
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ as a bonus it should have fixed some other packages (e.g. wine works now)
[15:41] <Laney> • autopkgtest
[15:41] <desrt> +1 on pink killer
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ made it so that autopkgtest-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud and autopkgtest-virt-qemu can be used fully offline if you have a local archive mirror and a cloud image to hand (means you can run tests on the train for the next item)
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ worked on kernel oops detection in qemu runner during fosdem train - partially works, needs a bit more effort
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ issue with cp OOMing(!) on s390x when testing some packages, turned out to be hitting the limit on the lxc cgroup, which we were configuring to be 1800M. Raised that a bit
[15:41] <Laney> 🍶
[15:42] <willcooke> :D
[15:42] <willcooke> thanks a lot Laney
[15:42] <willcooke> qengho, are you really here?
[15:42] <qengho> Yep.
[15:42] <willcooke> #topic qengho
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[15:42] <qengho> I can't do UTC to here math. :(
[15:42] <qengho> * in-progress: Debugging assertion failure in latest Chromium. It's a week old now. :( Must fix soon.
[15:42] <qengho> * in-progress: Upstreaming Cr patches from RPi dev.
[15:42] <qengho> * done: Updated browser test-snap.
[15:42] <qengho> * done: Some licensing research for legal team.
[15:43] <qengho> Also, helping tor get their bug fixes in X.
[15:43] <qengho> eof
[15:43] <willcooke> thanks qengho!
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic seb128
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[15:43] <seb128> Laney, would be good if we had some sort of autopkgtest or such on -av to make sure we don't regress, I've to admit I've no clue how to properly test is to verify the SRU for example
[15:43] <seb128> oh
[15:43] <seb128> • removed old-unmainted unity scopes from zesty
[15:43] <seb128> • reviewed/discussed geonames changes proposed by aacid
[15:43] <seb128> • went to fosdem was nice to see $people there, some nice discussions/sessions (including Bjoern's and p_itti's)
[15:43] <seb128> • started looking at emails from #is about langpack jobs issues
[15:43] <seb128> • trying to keep up with snappy world discussions/changes
[15:43] <seb128> • usual distro work (launchpads bugs triages, helped people on IRC, ...)
[15:43] <seb128> </week>
[15:44] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
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[15:44] <willcooke> - Thursday, Tuesday: travel
[15:44] <willcooke> - Friday: TDF BoD all-day meeting
[15:44] <willcooke> - Saturday, Sunday: FOSDEM
[15:44] <willcooke> - Monday, Tuesday: LibreOffice Hackfest https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2017
[15:44] <willcooke> - LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 snap update
[15:44] <willcooke> - found various snap launchpad/store upload issues, workarounds
[15:44] <willcooke> - LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 to prereleases ppa
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
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[15:44] <willcooke> * Contined looking into possible patches to backport from pulseaudio upstream for Xenial. Still testing and trying to determine how much can be backported without possibly breaking too much or changing too much of pulseaudio itself, if any. Was going to send a patch list to Konrad, but I haven't yet got a patch list finalized yet.
[15:44] <willcooke> * Trying to chase down a race condition at unity 7 desktop load in zesty. Sometimes the unity panel is accessible, sometimes not. For whatever reason, unity-panel-service often starts before at-spi and doesn't end up registerring its presence in the registry daemon.
[15:44] <willcooke> * Started looking into possibly getting espeak dropped from main if that hasn't happened automatically already, now that brltty and speech-dispatcher dont explicitly pull in espeak, and use espeak-ng instead.
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
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[15:45] <Trevinho>  · Some updates to various snapcraft PRs (tests, refactoring)
[15:45] <Trevinho>  · Updated Qt patches
[15:45] <Trevinho>  · Prepared packages update to backport qt patches to ubuntu
[15:46] <Trevinho> · attended FOSDEM
[15:46] <Trevinho>  · Remmina upstream work for snapcraft push through travis
[15:46] <Trevinho> EOF
[15:46] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
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[15:47] <willcooke> - Landed snap:// support upstream in gnome-software
[15:47] <willcooke> - New features for snapd-glib
[15:47] <willcooke> - Small snapd fixes and documentation improvements
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
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[15:47] <FJKong> back
[15:47] <FJKong> learn about merge:
[15:47] <FJKong> 1 pygtk #1662101 finish and waiting for upload
[15:47] <FJKong> 2 subversion still in progressing
[15:47] <FJKong> just back from holiday
[15:47] <FJKong> not too much to update here
[15:47] <FJKong> eof
[15:47] <willcooke> thanks FJKong
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic AOB
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[15:48] <willcooke> Anyone got any other news they want to share?
[15:48] <Laney> FJKong: no diff on there
[15:48] <FJKong> Laney: pygtk?
[15:49] <Laney> yes
[15:50] <willcooke> If no one has anything, let's close the meeting and Laney and FJKong can continue
[15:50] <willcooke> #endmeeting
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[15:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb  7 15:50:15 2017 UTC.
[15:50] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-02-07-15.30.moin.txt
[15:50] <willcooke> thanks all
[15:50] <seb128> thanks!
[15:50] <Laney> cheers
[15:50] <willcooke> Health note:  *finally* think I've got rid of this cough / cold / blargh \o/
[15:50] <Trevinho> good
[15:51] <Laney> seb128: testing> yes, but it's hard to think about how it could look in autopkgtest
[15:51] <jbicha> Laney: thanks for fixing up asgen
[15:51] <Laney> mhm
[15:52] <FJKong> Laney: I want to upload to lp, what format of url should i use?
[15:52] <Laney> FJKong: make a debdiff and attach that
[15:52] <Laney> debdiff debian_package.dsc your_new_package.dsc
[15:52] <seb128> Laney, yeah, I'm not sure either, maybe rather a build time thing that check the options enabled in the config.h (or whatever the buildsystem provides)?
[15:53] <FJKong> let m try
[15:53] <jbicha> is it possible to do an appstream update for xenial itself (not just xenial-updates, -security)? for instance unknown-horizons should show up in appstream now that some .xpm icons are allowed
[15:53] <Laney> no
[15:53] <Laney> https://github.com/ximion/appstream-generator/issues/29
[15:53] <jbicha> so I need to do a no-change rebuild in xenial-updates for any packages like that?
[15:54] <Laney> currently you need to upload the thing again
[15:54] <desrt> i don't know if i mentioned it, but gtk hackfest is coming up in london in march 20-22
[15:55] <desrt> makes sense for at least attente to go to that, and maybe laney based on proximity
[15:55] <Laney> an alternative to what I said there would be to make a package containing the appstream
[15:55] <desrt> (sorry for missing AOB)
[15:55] <Laney> probably still would need some work to generate that
[15:56] <Laney> I think fedora does it like that, maybe?
[15:57] <Laney> desrt: if it's the same room as the gnome-software hackfest (think it is) then it's pretty small
[15:57] <Laney> so my presence might be irritating
[15:58] <desrt> the venue has not yet been fully-determined
[16:00] <attente> the page says it's limited to 12 people
[16:00] <seb128> desrt, is there an agenda for the hackfest?
[16:00] <attente> seb128: https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/GTK2017
[16:00] <seb128> attente, thanks
[16:01] <desrt> in particular, attente being there to bring the mir backend up to speed on GSK (and find out what is even required for that) would be very useful
[16:01] <seb128> yeah
[16:02] <seb128> the agenda seems GSK work only though
[16:02] <seb128> well, not my business to say if Laney is interested in that
[16:02] <desrt> that's just the points that people have added so far
[16:02] <desrt> as always, what is discussed is what is discussed
[16:02] <desrt> but ya... gsk will be a big issue there, clearly
[16:03] <desrt> i'm thinking about paying my own ticket to pop over and crash on a couch for a night or two
[16:05] <seb128> willcooke, ^ in any case one for you I guess, sending at least attente would make sense in context of GTK4/mir
[16:05] <willcooke> +1
[16:45] <jbicha> why is unity8 installing a bunch of -dev packages on zesty now?
[16:47] <Laney> jbicha: try to install unity8 a-dev-package- and then drill down
[16:53] <tyhicks> willcooke, desrt, attente: hey - the apparmor userspace patches are still on track and jjohansen should get them out this week
[16:53] <willcooke> woot - thanks tyhicks
[16:53] <desrt> tyhicks: how about the kernelside?
[16:53] <attente> awesome
[16:53] <desrt> ie: not returning "/" for the list
[16:53] <attente> that's user space
[16:53] <attente> kernel side patch was already committed
[16:53] <desrt> ah.  cool.
[16:53] <tyhicks> willcooke, desrt, attente: the apparmor kernel patches have already landed in zesty, yakkety, xenial, and are queued up for the 4.11 kernel merge window
[16:53] <desrt> i thought the issue was that the kernel didn't let us list out the dfa conents
[16:54] <desrt> *contents
[16:54] <tyhicks> jjohansen: can you comment? ^
[16:54] <jjohansen> oh you can get the contents of the dfa, but that is not what you want
[16:54] <desrt> okay.  i believe you :)
[16:55] <desrt> looking forward to the userspace stuff
[16:55] <tyhicks> desrt: what's still not there is the kernel -> userspace notification system but jj is going to continue working on that after the userspace stuff is finished
[16:55] <jjohansen> so first there are two parts.
[16:55] <jjohansen> part 1: key value store, that has landed in the kernel
[16:55] <jjohansen> part 2: is the update notification system, that has not though the goal is to land it this week
[16:55] <tyhicks> desrt: as we discussed, it's not the end of the world if the notifications aren't available immediately
[16:56] <jjohansen> userspace side, you will get an api to get a list out of the kernel, I should have those up later today/tomorrow
[16:56] <jjohansen> and you can start using them
[16:56] <jjohansen> the update notification side of things again later in the week
[16:57] <tyhicks> thanks jjohansen!
[16:57] <jjohansen> right, I will say notifications by eow is the goal but if needed it may take a little longer and we will deal with it
[16:59] <desrt> fwiw, there is nothing in the architecture on my side to deal with notifications, so that's something that i'd have to add here anyway
[16:59] <desrt> i don't expect that to make it by feature freeze
[17:02] <tyhicks> I don't expect the notification system to make feature freeze, either
[17:03] <tyhicks> maybe it is something we can request an exception for
[17:03] <tyhicks> we'll decided based on schedules and complexity
[17:31] <seb128> https://github.com/Microsoft/gvfs
[17:32] <Laney> bahaha
[17:32] <seb128> nice namespace conflict ;-)
[17:32] <seb128> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudioalm/2017/02/03/announcing-gvfs-git-virtual-file-system/
[17:45] <chrisccoulson> seb128, lol
[17:45] <chrisccoulson> I'm familiar with name conflicts - we frequently have people pop in to #oxide, asking about http://oxidemod.org/ ;)
[17:45] <seb128> :-)
[18:01] <flexiondotorg> davmor2 That audio player you tested. It was missing from the Sound Indicator. Fixed it, will publish soon.
[18:03] <Laney> night!
[18:33] <davmor2> flexiondotorg: oh nice
[18:38] <willcooke> right, dinner time.  Night all
[20:14] <mitya57> Trevinho, re bug #1600136, your debdiff LGTM, but it's more for Mirv rather than me, because he can test on touch devices.
[20:14] <ubot5> bug 1600136 in snapd (Ubuntu) "App indicator does not show icon for Qt apps or with custom icons" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1600136
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