[03:44] <robert_ancell> jbicha, I notice you pushed https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773615 to the wip/ubuntu branch - I'm trying to write the SRU bug but not sure why exactly it shouldn't be disabled by the user?
[03:44] <ubot5> Gnome bug 773615 in General "service: Set NoDisplay=true" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[03:46] <robert_ancell> jbicha, bug 1662749
[03:46] <ubot5> bug 1662749 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Yakkety) "GNOME Software has entry in Startup Applications" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662749
[07:35] <jbicha> xnox: speaking of which, I need your input on bug 1657909
[07:35] <ubot5> bug 1657909 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Yakkety) "SSH service should be hidden from Startup Applications too" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1657909
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[09:01] <willcooke> morning all
[09:01] <willcooke> it's really dark today :(
[09:01] <Laney> ahoy
[09:01] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney
[09:03] <duflu> willcooke: Don't worry, only 1442 days until the next presidential inauguration
[09:03] <seb128> how is u.k today?
[09:04] <Laney> greyyyy
[09:04] <Laney> got SOAKED last night on the way back from the pub
[09:04] <Laney> rain wasn't forecast ._.
[09:05] <seb128> can't trust those rain forecast
[09:06] <seb128> I was pondering going to tennis yesterday but they said it would rain
[09:06] <seb128> which it didn't at the end, could have played, it's frustating!
[09:06] <willcooke> duflu, :D ha
[09:08] <Laney> annoying!
[09:44] <flexiondotorg> Morning desktopers
[09:44] <willcooke> hi flexiondotorg
[10:24] <xnox> jbicha, what sor tof input do you want from me on that?
[10:26] <jbicha> xnox: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/3.10.1-1ubuntu4.2 do we still want the ssh and gpg daemons to show up in Startup Applications?
[10:28] <xnox> i would say still no.
[10:30] <jbicha> xnox: so you're ok with my proposed SRU there?
[10:43] <xnox> jbicha, SRUs are good, is there a debdiff to look at?
[10:43] <xnox> jbicha, or is it just hte same nodisplay chunks as in the 4.2 upload?
[10:44] <xnox> but i thought we are all fine, in all the releases that use upstart & systemd as user sessions at the moment.
[10:44] <xnox> (as in no srus required, as all releases should be fine)
[10:45] <jbicha> xnox: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/303162275/gnome-keyring_3.18.3-0ubuntu2_3.18.3-0ubuntu2.1.diff.gz
[10:47] <xnox> jbicha, hm.
[10:48] <xnox> jbicha, i think ssh agent was special unlike everything else. because we have people who want: keyring ssh agent, ssh-agent, gpg-agent (to act as ssh)
[10:48] <xnox> and we do have code in units and jobs to handle ssh vs gpg vs keyring, correctly.
[10:48] <xnox> so i think it was intentiaonal to keep ssh-agent.
[10:49] <xnox> (as in to keep the gnome-keyring-ssh desktop file in the startup applications)
[10:52] <jbicha> xnox: do you want me to revert in zesty then?
[10:53] <xnox> jbicha, possibly. the test was that one should be able to use graphical means to switch between "gnome-keyring ssh" and barebones "ssh-agent"
[10:53] <xnox> with gnome-keyring ssh being the default.
[10:53] <xnox> jbicha, maybe document that in a comment in the patch too?
[10:53] <Laney> yes it definitely is intentional to have the GNOME Keyring SSH agent in there
[10:54] <Laney> you're supposed to be able to turn it off in favour of other agents
[10:54] <jbicha> ok, I'll revert and cancel the SRUs
[10:55] <jbicha> Laney: what do you think about bug 1662749 ?
[10:56] <ubot5> bug 1662749 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Yakkety) "GNOME Software has entry in Startup Applications" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662749
[10:56] <Laney> seems fair enough
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[13:31] <willcooke>  /query seb128
[13:31] <willcooke> err
[13:31] <willcooke> :D
[13:31] <seb128> lol
[13:31] <Laney> bahaha
[13:32] <Laney> at least you didn't put the message in that line
[13:32] <willcooke> :D
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[15:40] <attente> jbicha: hi, would you be able to sponsor this for me? https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/gtk-mir/+merge/316716
[15:45] <Trevinho> mitya57: well the app-indicator is only something for classic devices, no touch ones... so maybe you can do that too?
[15:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: I fixed that xkeyboard-config proposal yesterday. Stupid mistake - explained on the bug report. Sorry.
[15:47] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, k, I can have another look
[15:47] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks.
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[18:03] <Laney> night!
[18:07] <seb128> night Laney & desktopers
[18:23] <willcooke> night all.
[18:23] <willcooke> going to London tomorrow morning for a meeting with Design.  Will be on around 10ish I think
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[20:24] <kenvandine> attente, i see gtk with the content-hub depends just hit zesty
[20:24] <kenvandine> attente, however, i think the dev package needs to depend on libcontent-hub-glib-dev
[20:24] <kenvandine> --   Package 'libcontent-hub-glib', required by 'gdk-3.0', not found
[20:25] <kenvandine> attente, other packages are now failing to build
[20:26] <attente> kenvandine: is that not automatic via the libcontent-hub-glib-dev build depends?
[20:27] <kenvandine> no
[20:27] <kenvandine> libgtk-3-dev should depend on libcontent-hub-glib-dev
[20:29] <attente> uh oh
[20:29] <attente> thanks for catching that
[20:33] <kenvandine> attente, no problem
[20:33] <kenvandine> great to see that landing though :)
[20:35] <jbicha> attente: kenvandine: I can fix that
[20:37] <attente> jbicha: thanks, sorry about the trouble
[20:39] <jbicha> no problem, I have trouble remembering to add new build-depends as depends to -dev packages
[20:47] <kenvandine> jbicha, thx