[07:38] <brimonk> I'd like to try out Ubuntu Touch, but I have a couple of questions. First, I have to back up all of my contacts and whatnot, and I tried to go into my contacts app and export, but the 'save' button is just greyed out.
[07:38] <brimonk> Anyone have any ideas?
[11:52] <andy__> brimonk: what sort of phone are you looking to back up and what operating system has it got on it?
[14:03] <ogra_> mterry, yo ... a lot better with the respawn limit ... you forgot pulseaudio-trust-stored though
[14:06] <ogra_> the fonts seem to work now ... top panel still turns transparent after the desktop fully started and there are plenty of other bugs, but it seems a lot smoother if the respawning doesnt eat all CPU cores all the time :)
[14:11] <mterry> ogra_: awesome
[14:12] <ogra_> i'll bomb you guys with bugs the next days ... lots still not working
[14:12] <mterry> ogra_: it looks like I didn't miss pulseaudio-trust-stored...  but it might take longer to crash, such that it doesn't hit the respawn limit?
[14:12] <mterry> ogra_: oh yeah -- u8 on Core isn't really supported yet -- there's lots of system services that aren't snapped yet
[14:12] <ogra_> well, i have about 100 lines from it on the console that i started the session from
[14:13] <mterry> ogra_: yeah I don't doubt it, just saying that I used the same respawn limit it with it that I did for the others it looks like.  It might need an even tighter limit to stop respawning
[14:13] <ogra_> mterry, right, but not only that ... i.e. when i use the store scope i can click install for snaps but the SSO signin page comes up invisible (i can see it if i slide to the rigth and the scope window is in spread mode)
[14:14] <mterry> ogra_: you shouldn't even have the store scope...  We removed that.  But noted
[14:14] <ogra_> there are quite a few of these displayish bugs
[14:14] <ogra_> well, it isnt on by default :)
[14:14] <mterry> ah
[14:14] <mterry> It doesn't let you install anything, not very useful
[14:14] <ogra_> no icons in scopes as well ...
[14:15] <ogra_> yeah
[14:15] <ogra_> well, i can see snaps in it though
[14:15] <mterry> Yeah
[14:15] <mterry> Do you see icons in the app drawer?
[14:16] <mterry> (app drawer is what pops out when you push to left of screen)
[14:16] <ogra_> yes, system-settings (which doesnt start) and the dash icon
[14:17] <mterry> ogra_: that's on the launcher?  Or even the drawer only shows those two?
[14:17] <mterry> Drawer doesn't show dash, so you must mean launcher
[14:17] <mterry> ogra_: push harder on left
[14:17] <ogra_> one sec
[14:18] <ogra_> ah !
[14:18] <ogra_> thats pretty much "launcher with drawer" then
[14:18] <ogra_> same icons as drawer alone
[14:18] <mterry> ok so both drawer and launcher have just the system settings?
[14:19] <ogra_> yep
[14:19] <mterry> Did you install other snaps?
[14:19] <ogra_> and the ubuntu icon indeed
[14:19] <mterry> (Settings is only app we pre-install)
[14:19] <ogra_> only pulse
[14:19] <mterry> OK, so that's expected
[14:19] <ogra_> and htop ... boith no desktop apps
[14:19] <mterry> If you install one, it should show up...
[14:20] <mterry> ogra_: graphical bugs might be useful to file, might mean a Mir problem.  But most other functionality bugs are going to be expected I think
[14:20] <ogra_> k
[14:20] <ogra_> it works astonishingly well otherwise
[14:21] <ogra_> oh, i cant minimize/maximize the scopes window ... is that expected ?
[14:22] <ogra_> hmm, installed terminal app ... doesnt show up
[14:22] <ogra_> i guess i have to restart the session to have it found ?
[14:27] <ogra_> ok, shows up in the drawer after reboot ... but doesnt start
[14:27] <ogra_> upstart: application-snap (ubuntu-terminal-app_ubuntu-terminal-app_34-) main process (4626) terminated with status 1
[14:27] <ogra_> upstart: Failed to spawn application-snap (ubuntu-terminal-app_ubuntu-terminal-app_34-) post-stop process: unable to mark cgroups for removal: Unknown error 196609
[14:28] <dobey> mterry: no, the store scope is there. it's the snappy store scope, not click scope
[14:29] <dobey> click scope is gone
[14:30] <ogra_> oh, seems terminal expects a unity7 interface ... that wont work
[14:30] <dobey> ogra_: it just gets run under xmir in that case which is fine. the cgroups issue is something else i think
[14:30] <ogra_> id xmir shipped inside the unity8-session snap ?
[14:31] <ogra_> *is
[14:31] <dobey> and it shouldn't be starting with upstart afaik
[14:31] <mterry> ogra_: is cgmanager running?
[14:31] <ogra_> mterry, the system one, yeah
[14:31] <dobey> should be systemd
[14:31] <ogra_> dotn forget that i am on a core image here
[14:31] <ogra_> different worlds :)
[14:32] <dobey> and i think snappy store won't work, if the policykit issue hasn't been fixed yet
[14:32] <ogra_> well, first of all it would be great to be able to see the SSO dialog at all :)
[14:33] <ogra_> but yeah, i worked my way through it blindly and got a dbus error at the end
[14:34] <dobey> well i have no idea about that part. but hopefully that scope and sso stuff are both going away soon anyway :)