[00:00] <gde33> k thanks
[00:00] <k1l> gde33: its a short url, you can type it on that client you use now
[00:01] <zuiss1> hi. is the minitube package broken in 16.04?
[00:01] <bazhang> !info minitube
[00:01] <gde33> will take a bit, installing wifi driver
[00:04] <ash_workz> I totally fail at this: https://docs.docker.com/machine/drivers/generic/
[00:05] <ash_workz> I really don't get it it... id_rsa would be a private key, no? so that's created on the server? o.O;
[00:05] <gde33> eh I hit update in stead of cancle then got a error brokencount >0. This usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies. Update is still running, going to take some time it seems.
[00:06] <gde33> going well for a fresh reinstall :P
[00:11] <gde33> Different question, my monitor is only 600 px high. How do I use dialogs? I can get to [accept] by trying different numbers of [tab]'s but is there some generic solution?
[00:12] <gde33> so far only the powermanagement didn't fit on the screen
[00:12] <k1l> use alt key to shove the window?
[00:12] <gde33> with arrows?
[00:14] <gde33> it only lets me drag it down
[00:14] <kk4ewt> alt drag
[00:14] <k1l> hold alt then use mouse and drag it
[00:15] <gde33> it wont go beyond the top of the screen
[00:15] <gde33> ah I got it!
[00:16] <gde33> it jumps all over the place but it sort of works good enough
[00:16] <gde33> ty
[00:17] <gde33> I mistakenly grabbed the toolbar but the mouse isn't allowed to venture outside the port
[00:20] <Luis_> Hey I am no longer able to login to my account
[00:20] <Luis_> It keeps looping me back to the same screen
[00:20] <Luis_> With a split second of console
[00:20] <Luis_> Can anyone help?
[00:21] <k1l> Luis_: does the guest account work?
[00:21] <gde33> k1l: okay, it says sources.list.d/* : No such file or directory and gives this http://termbin.com/v3hc
[00:22] <kk4ewt> Luis_,  can you log in in a console
[00:22] <k1l> gde33: did you manually change the sources.list file?
[00:23] <ash_workz> why would eval work as root but not as me?
[00:25] <jm_gaming> hi
[00:26] <k1l> gde33: you have doubled entries in your sources.list. and since you dont answer me about that i guess you know you messed that up. so revert that changes
[00:26] <qweqwe> hey guys, can I somehow set font priority?
[00:27] <qweqwe> FontAwesome seems to be in conflict with some other font on the system and I have no idea which package installed what font
[00:40] <gde33> k1l: my connection crapped out right after I wrote: okay, it says sources.list.d/* : No such file or directory and gives this http://termbin.com/v3hc
[00:40] <k1l> k1l> gde33: did you manually change the sources.list file?
[00:40] <gde33> k1l: I didn't get your messages after I posted that line
[00:41] <gde33> k1l: or did you mean : how did you create this mess?
[00:42] <k1l> gde33: what about you answer that question? :)
[00:42] <gde33> I haven't tried anything so far, no I didn't change anything
[00:42] <k1l> hint, i know its not the origial one
[00:42] <gde33> it is lubuntu
[00:43] <k1l> because at the top of that file there are 3 lines added that are not there on a "fresh installed lubuntu"
[00:44] <k1l> so i would suggest you revert that manual changes
[00:44] <gde33> it beats me, I dont know how those got there. I download the 32 bit lubuntu from the website and make a liveusb
[00:44] <k1l> i dont know what you did after the install
[00:44] <gde33> the live usb booted just fine
[00:45] <gde33> then I tried to install but it abandoned and went into powersave, after bringing it back to live the installer vanished
[00:45] <gde33> after that it said ubuntu was already installed but booting didn't show grub
[00:45] <gde33> so I reinstalled it
[00:45] <gde33> first option in the list
[00:46] <gde33> then grub worked, I got the os, I went straight for the terminal and did sudo apt-get update
[00:46] <gde33> I also included 3rd party extras and allowed the installer to look on the internet
[00:47] <gde33> and I installed the propriatardy wifi driver
[00:47] <k1l> gde33: as i said: remove that 3 lines at the top
[00:49] <gde33> the 3 deb lines you mean right? lines 2,3,4
[00:49] <k1l> yes
[00:49] <gde33> is just putting a # in front enough?
[00:50] <k1l> remove them
[00:50] <k1l> if you want to add or remove ubuntu repos better use the system settings updates&software
[00:53] <gde33> it stopped complaining, sudo apt-get update fetched, read packages then said Done
[00:53] <gde33> anything else I should check/try ?
[00:54] <k1l> apt update only gets you the new list of packages from the servers. you still need apt full-upgrade to install that new pacakges
[00:54] <gde33> interesting, I never see that before
[00:55] <sharon_so> Hi, I am curious if it is a best practice to have some sort of tool that monitors hard disk from getting filled up and maybe memory from the same ? or that is not something that sys admins worry about ?
[00:55] <gde33> k1l: should I mention it is a crappy ph mini with 1 gb of ram?
[00:56] <k1l> gde33: what is the issue now?
[00:57] <gde33> no issue, just wondering if a full upgrade would grow it beyond being a lubuntu. nvm it was a stupid thought.
[00:57] <k1l> gde33: no
[00:57] <wedgie> sharon_so: on production servers, definitely. On desktop machines, less so
[00:57] <gde33> not a real issue, but it was kinda interesting how it killed my cable modem when I connected both the wired internet then connected to it with wifi
[00:58] <k1l> its just updating the packages. as i already said apt update doesnt update any packages, it just fetches the lists form the servers
[00:58] <sharon_so> wedgie: what is the standard/common for Linux VMs ? any recommendation
[00:58] <gde33> k1l: oh
[00:59] <wedgie> sharon_so: lots of options. There are open source ones like nagios/icinga, cacti, and so on. Those are meant to monitor large numbers of machines
[00:59] <gde33> should one always run full-upgrade or does the auto updater usually take care of things?
[00:59] <k1l> gde33: the gui updater will take care of that
[01:00] <gde33> ok ill shut up now, thanks man! keep up the good work
[01:00] <k1l> np
[01:06] <sndnasdn1> well... got it to install but it didn't install some firmware things. initframs acting up and i can't update
[01:07] <sndnasdn1> i still can't boot into a gui
[01:08] <k1l> sndnasdn1: did you use nomodeset to boot?
[01:08] <k1l> !nomodeset | sndnasdn1
[01:08] <k1l> when it booted once install the nvidia driver
[01:09] <sndnasdn1> well there is a major issue with the fact i can't update
[01:09] <whodat> Ubuntu 12.04 support ends "April 2016", but does that mean April 1st or April 30th?
[01:09] <sndnasdn1> im not worried about the gui now
[01:09] <aiello> ikonia: I'm back! and apparently you are still here! I just wanted to follow up and let you know what the resolution was (assuming you remember our chat earlier). I rolled back to X-org drivers and removed the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file forcing xserver to autoconfigure every time I rebooted. This resulted in a perfectly functioning desktop first try.... I got to that conclusion as xrandr was only detecting one video card for some reason 
[01:10] <aiello> ikonia: (2/2) forum topic (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=175743) that outlined the same issue and a resolution
[01:10] <sndnasdn1> i could install my gpu drivers from cli but the fact of the matter is that im having huge issues with just the system itself. im going to just reinstall cause right now i have no OS besides this
[01:11] <k1l> sndnasdn1: its hard  to help you if you only come here, tell some story, say you "did all", "nothing works", and then leave again
[01:16] <sndnasdn1> okay i got a useful error that can tell you where im at now. W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915
[01:16] <sndnasdn1> i get errors about firmware like that when trying to install anything
[01:17] <linux> Hi
[01:17] <nacc> sndnasdn1: that's not an error, it's a warning (W) and it's harmless
[01:18] <stevendale> Hi linux
[01:18] <sndnasdn1> i get errors with dpkg too nacc
[01:18] <sndnasdn1> let me go back to read the other parts
[01:18] <nacc> sndnasdn1: why are you using dpkg?
[01:20] <sndnasdn1> hold on
[01:21] <linux> Guys I have problem with virtualbox , I can't copy and paste files from-to guest and host , the problem is not with settings.
[01:22] <sndnasdn1> E: mkinitramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0.22-generic with 1
[01:22] <gtxbb> linux, try using vbox guest additions
[01:22] <nacc> sndnasdn1: to get any help, you *must* pastebin the entire output (command to failure), if at all possible.
[01:23] <sndnasdn1> what cli browser do i have by default?
[01:23] <sndnasdn1> do i have lynx? cause what i was trying to install was a cli browser
[01:23] <sndnasdn1> no, lynx isn't installed.
[01:25] <linux> gtxbb I tried , I think the problem because I installed it from deb file instead of ubuntu repositories.
[01:26] <gtxbb> linux, whatever you are using inside the guest, you need to install the vbox guest additions within the vm..
[01:28] <Ntemis> guys how i delete a sudo user from my server?
[01:29] <Ntemis> i tried but it says user is currently used by process 2948
[01:29] <Ntemis> now what?
[01:30] <linux> Ok , I will remove virtualbox then I will install it from ubuntu repository with guest additions . Thank you .
[01:34] <newbuntuser> This is my first irc. What mosly happens here?
[01:34] <bazhang> newbuntuser, this channel is for ubuntu support
[01:35] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic newbuntuser
[01:40] <thawes> Ntemis: slay <username> && usermod -L <username>
[01:40] <Ntemis> thanks
[01:41] <thawes> will log them out and lock their account
[01:41] <marchelzo> hi. i'm running into some problems trying to compile a C program on ubuntu. is that on topic here?
[01:41] <Ntemis> i have an /dev/sda2 with windows efi bootloader on it i want it wiped and format to ext4
[01:41] <Ntemis> any help?
[01:41] <Ntemis> bootloader gone too
[01:42] <Ntemis> clean state
[01:42] <Ntemis> ext4 fs
[01:42] <sndnasdn1> okay, i reinstall and now some things are fixed and i can install now. but i hang on boot. i can get into cli and if i go to an another session to force gui it says settings for low graphics mode? it's some display issue
[01:43] <thawes> marchelzo: what problems are you running into?
[01:43] <marchelzo> thawes: i'm getting "undefined reference to 'sinf'" and a bunch of similar linker errors
[01:44] <marchelzo> thawes: but i'm using the -lm flag, and ld isn't complaining about not being able to find libm
[01:44] <marchelzo> same for a bunch of other libraries, like readline, pcre, etc.
[01:44] <marchelzo> they are all installed and all of the correct linker flags are being used
[01:44] <marchelzo> and yet i get all of those errors
[01:45] <thawes> marchelzo: you need to include the appropriate libraries in your code
[01:45] <marchelzo> of course
[01:46] <marchelzo> all of the source code compiles fine
[01:46] <thawes> its just not linking?
[01:46] <marchelzo> yes
[01:47] <thawes> is it code you wrote yourself?
[01:48] <marchelzo> thawes: yes
[01:50] <thawes> marchelzo: are you using gcc or clang to compile?
[01:50] <marchelzo> thawes: gc
[01:50] <marchelzo> c
[01:50] <thawes> marchelzo: also can you paste your output into pastebin and send the link?
[01:50] <marchelzo> the one that came installed with ubuntu
[01:52] <thawes> marchelzo: paste the output of your compile here http://pastebin.com/
[01:53] <thawes> you chould get a link to it when you submit
[01:53] <marchelzo> oops
[01:53] <marchelzo> looks like i was invoking gcc wrong. the order of the arguments is important apparently.
[01:53] <thawes> yes they are
[01:54] <thawes> Ntemis: are you trying to preserve the /dev/sda2 partition, and install the grub (ubuntu) bootloader?
[01:55] <Ntemis> no
[01:55] <Ntemis> i need to clean sda
[01:55] <Ntemis> it has 5 partitions
[01:55] <Ntemis> they need t go
[01:55] <Ntemis> and have one big partition with ext4
[01:55] <Ntemis> all from cmd
[01:56] <thawes> you can do that with an install/rescue disk
[01:57] <thawes> the ubuntu live disk will give you install, they used to give rescue as well, but not sure if they still do. but for wiping an intire disk and formatting to ext4, the install disk will do just fine
[01:58] <Ntemis> am remotely connected
[01:58] <Ntemis> and i need to format the hdd
[01:58] <Ntemis> tried sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda
[01:59] <Ntemis> answer /dev/sda is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[01:59] <Ntemis> now what?
[01:59] <thawes> Ntemis: back in the good ol' days, one could do such things with a mere serial connection to the machine
[02:00] <thawes> Ntemis: I don't think it can be done on an Ubuntu system set up this way.
[02:01] <thawes> If you want to be destructive, you could run fdisk on /dev/sda, and delete all partitions, but you won't get it formatted, and it won't be bootable. You'd have to get to it locally to do anything meaningful.
[02:03] <thawes> Ntemis: serial connections are so old now, I don't think you could repartition a disk remotely with any modern Linux distro. You can still do this with Solaris, however.
[02:03] <Ntemis> i did it already
[02:05] <thawes> hope nobody needed that system
[02:08] <wedgie> Ntemis: usually you make a filesystem on a partition, not a whole block device. E.g., /dev/sda1
[02:09] <wedgie> but yeah, trying to format a disk that you are booted from via the network sounds dicey.
[02:09] <Ntemis> wedgie: am booted from sdb
[02:09] <Ntemis> i formated sda
[02:13] <thawes> Ntemis: you need to add a partition to sda in order to use it. As long as you are not booted from sda, you can do this remotely, using fdisk /dev/sda
[02:14] <themusicgod1> after using fsck on a usb hard drive that got unplugged accidentally(ugh), fsck reports 'e2fsck: aborted
[02:14] <themusicgod1> er it reports an incorrect time stamp: fix?, hitting y results in e2fsck: aborted
[02:14] <Ntemis> i want to make the formatted drive to be written by any sudoer
[02:14] <Ntemis> how i do that?
[02:15] <Ntemis> also i get this now
[02:15] <Ntemis> grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda4.  Check your device.map.
[02:15] <Ntemis> how i fix grub?
[02:16] <Capum321> hello, how do I proceed with hplip to scan a document?
[02:16] <themusicgod1> fsck does not appear to be running out of ram, at least in terms of available ram/my system has plenty of ram available
[02:16] <yam_> hello
[02:17] <yam_> hey anyone online
[02:18] <thawes> Ntemis: what do you get when you run "df /boot/" (without the quotes)
[02:19] <themusicgod1> fsck reports 'operational error'  via return value
[02:19] <themusicgod1> (ie 9)
[02:20] <Ntemis> /dev/sdb2         483946 65882    393079  15% /boot
[02:20] <Ntemis> am safe to reboot server?
[02:21] <RNeville> Hello everyone, Nautilus not seeing a recently add harddrive to my Ubuntu 16.04 computer
[02:22] <RNeville> Is there a command line tool I can run to see if it will show this newly added harddrive
[02:22] <sponix> RNeville: "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:23] <RNeville> This new harddrive is not formatted, since I ran Derek's Boot and Nuke on it - bought it through ebay, harddrive that is
[02:24] <wedgie> RNeville: then you'll need to create a partition and filesystem on it
[02:24] <RNeville> wedgie, don't see this harddrive when I run: sudo fdisk -l
[02:25] <wedgie> RNeville: use gparted
[02:25] <RNeville> k, wedgie
[02:25] <RNeville> thanks
[02:25] <wedgie> won't have a partition table to display since the drive has no partitions
[02:26] <RNeville> so, no command line tool will show that the drive is at least connected properly to mobo?
[02:26] <Ben64> fdisk should
[02:26] <thawes> Ntemis: I don't know, you might be wanting to run update-grub2 if it used to see a Windows partition there
[02:27] <thawes> Ntemis: if update-grub2 runs smoothly, I'd say it is safe to reboot
[02:27] <themusicgod1> what can I do to get fsck to not abort?
[02:27] <wedgie> RNeville: can look for it in /dev/sd*
[02:27] <whodat> Ubuntu 12.04 support ends "April 2016", but does that mean April 1st or April 30th?
[02:27] <Ben64> themusicgod1: don't hit ctrl+c ?
[02:27] <Ben64> whodat: assume april 1st
[02:27] <themusicgod1> I'm not hitting ctrl+c.
[02:27] <wedgie> RNeville: and if you want command line, use fdisk to create the partition(s)
[02:27] <wedgie> (instead of gparted)
[02:27] <themusicgod1> it aborts this way whether or not i use 'a'
[02:27] <themusicgod1> (to say yes to everything)
[02:27] <whodat> Ben64: That's what I'm doing, but I'd like to know for sure.
[02:28] <Ben64> whodat: it's probably somewhere in the middle, why does it matter? don't push it
[02:30] <Ben64> themusicgod1: this way?
[02:30] <themusicgod1> e2fsck: aborted
[02:31] <RNeville> If I would like to duel boot, and want a data drive to be visible under Ubuntu and Windows, can I choose ext4
[02:31] <eliaquin> hola
[02:32] <Ben64> RNeville: you can, but you'd have to install a thing for windows to be able to read it
[02:33] <gnomethrower> So...
[02:33] <themusicgod1> http://82.221.128.217/error.txt
[02:33] <themusicgod1> full log ^
[02:33] <RNeville> Ben64, how about ntfs
[02:34] <gnomethrower> Ubuntu 17.04 will start with Z... what will 17.10 start with? :P
[02:34] <Ben64> RNeville: that works
[02:34] <Ben64> gnomethrower: probably A
[02:34] <gnomethrower> Ben64: my vote is Angry Aardvark
[02:34] <RNeville> thanks Ben64
[02:34] <sponix> RNeville: ntfs is most likely the easiest to be read by both Linux and Windows
[02:35] <sponix> Ben64: Is there software to read ext4 on Windows that is Free ?
[02:35] <Ben64> yes
[02:35] <gnomethrower> sponix: yes but AFAIK it only works on Windows 7 and below
[02:37] <jthunder> so trying to boot an HP server with the ubuntu 14.04 LTS live cd, and having difficulty - what is the option to add to the end of the boot options line to not use gui and just command line?
[02:37] <jthunder> single?
[02:38] <Ben64> jthunder: i don't think it's possible on the livecd
[02:38] <sndnasdn1> my problem was fixed by removing my gpu.
[02:38] <RNeville> Okay, thanks for everyone help, I have Nautilus showing this new formated Harddrive, but can't write to it
[02:38] <Ben64> themusicgod1: are you trying to run fsck on a mounted filesystem?
[02:39] <RNeville> I think the permissions are set for admin - to have write access to it only
[02:39] <Ben64> RNeville: correct
[02:39] <themusicgod1> no
[02:39] <themusicgod1> it is unmounted
[02:39] <jthunder> Ben64: was never an option?
[02:39] <Capum321> how do I proceed with digitalization?
[02:39] <Ben64> themusicgod1: what's the output of "mount"
[02:39] <RNeville> Next question: how do I reset permissions on this new drive so standard user can move files to it
[02:39] <Ben64> jthunder: just use the server cd...
[02:40] <Ben64> RNeville: where is the drive mounted
[02:40] <jthunder> text option?
[02:40] <RNeville> just a second Ben6
[02:40] <Ben64> jthunder: the server iso is all text
[02:40] <themusicgod1> appended to http://82.221.128.217/error.txt
[02:40] <RNeville> Ben65/ Ben6**
[02:40] <jthunder> does it boot into a live environment
[02:41] <themusicgod1> as you can see sda1 isn't there, i can mount it...but since there's fs errors some operations fail
[02:41] <Bashing-om> jthunder: In the grub boot line replace "quiet splash" with the term text . ctl+x to continue the boot process .
[02:41] <Ben64> themusicgod1: weird
[02:42] <RNeville> Ben64, don't know what command to use to determine where this new drive is located
[02:43] <Ben64> mount
[02:43] <jthunder> Bashing-om: thanks
[02:43] <RNeville> I believe /dev/sdb
[02:43] <Ben64> that's the device
[02:43] <themusicgod1> Ben64: according to source there's like 6-7 spots that can define FSCK_ERR and they should all log a backtrace(?), so recompiled fsck with --enable-backtrace and same result.
[02:44] <themusicgod1> *FSCK_ERROR
[02:48] <jthunder> Bashing-om: is that . required?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> jthunder: ? required ?? for what end ? text works for me to boot to terminal .
[02:49] <RNeville> If my new harddrive is /dev/sdb can I mount it using: "mount /dev/sdb   /mnt/sdb" ?
[02:50] <wedgie> RNeville: no, you need to specify the partition: e.g., /dev/sdb1
[02:50] <RNeville> If my new harddrive is /dev/sdb can I mount it using: "mount /dev/sdb1   /mnt/sdb" ?
[02:50] <Ben64> if sdb1 is the partition you want to mount
[02:50] <RNeville> yes, Ben65
[02:51] <wedgie> looks good, assuming that /mnt/sdb exists
[02:51] <RNeville> Ben64/Bend65**
[02:52] <RNeville> This drive is already appearing when I run Nautilus, but I don't have correct permissions on the drive to allow standard user access
[02:52] <sponix> You all sure you _must_ use partitions with Linux ? I was almost sure you could mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc  && mount /dev/sdc /mnt -- Formatting the base of the device without and mount it without a created partition ..
[02:52] <reisio> RNeville: chown!
[02:52] <reisio> sponix: IIRC you _can_ do that, yes
[02:52] <reisio> not that you'd want to
[02:52] <Ben64> RNeville: well you still never answered my question
[02:52] <RNeville> thx reisio
[02:53] <reisio> Ben64: 42?
[02:53] <Ben64> no
[02:53] <reisio> hrmmm
[02:53] <reisio> 6?
[02:53] <Ben64> that's a much more important question
[02:53] <reisio> oh :p
[02:53] <RNeville> yes, sdb1 is only partition I have on this harddrive Ben64
[02:53] <Ben64> RNeville: no...
[02:53] <Ben64> Feb 07 2017 18:40:01 <Ben64>	RNeville: where is the drive mounted
[02:54] <reisio> 'mount'
[02:54] <RNeville> Using "sudo fdisk -l" it shows sdb, Ben64
[02:54] <Ben64> omg no
[02:55] <reisio> RNeville: 'mount'
[02:55] <sponix> RNeville: He means the mount point.. For example my "Crap" drive is mounted at /media/sponix/Crap
[02:56] <reisio> well, your Crap FS that's on your crap drive
[02:56] <wedgie> RNeville: ''mount | grep sdb''
[02:56] <RNeville> not sure were it is mounted, till me proper command to run, Ben64, and I'll pastesbinit
[02:56] <Ben64> i already did
[02:56] <Ben64> Feb 07 2017 18:42:56 <RNeville>	Ben64, don't know what command to use to determine where this new drive is located
[02:56] <Ben64> Feb 07 2017 18:43:07 <Ben64>	mount
[02:56] <RNeville> k
[02:56] <Ben64> 16 minutes ago
[02:56] <reisio> yeah but he clearly didn't remember that :p
[02:57] <Ben64> or the 3 times people said it in the past 5 minutes
[02:57] <sponix> reisio: was that not a good name for where I store my Crap ?
[02:57] <Capum321> how to scan a document?
[02:57] <reisio> sponix: might I suggest 'crap'
[02:57] <RNeville> sorry, didn't follow what everyone was trying to tell me
[02:57] <reisio> Capum321: many pages?
[02:57] <RNeville> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23951952/
[02:58] <sponix> reisio: No, trust me.. I have enough of it the Capitol C is needed :)
[02:58] <Ben64> RNeville: "sudo chown $USER /media/james/b4733e1a-70ce-4c83-8f1a-23d01d168db1"
[02:59] <thawes> Ben64: no, not chown
[02:59] <reisio> heh
[02:59] <Ben64> yes, yes chown
[02:59] <Capum321> reisio: no, I am trying to do the actual scan
[02:59] <thawes> Ben64:(re) mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000
[02:59] <Ben64> no
[02:59] <thawes> or whatever his uid and gid is based on 'id'
[03:00] <Ben64> nope.
[03:00] <reisio> Capum321: you got one page or more?
[03:00] <Capum321> now, there is one page
[03:01] <thawes> Ben64: when he boots in windows chown won't be preserved, or at least with the older ntfs, they won't
[03:01] <Ben64> thawes: why are you assuming windows and ntfs
[03:01] <RNeville> thanks, thawes, but I decided to us ext4 - for the time being
[03:02] <RNeville> will reformat if I decide to duel boot later
[03:02] <thawes> Ben64: guess I missed the decision to go with ext4
[03:02] <reisio> Capum321: you just want an image or you want OCR?
[03:02] <RNeville> this drive is a small ssd to hold one file at a time, so I have a primary ssd and second ssd to write data to, only
[03:03] <RNeville> when using Lightworks to NLE files
[03:03] <RNeville> video files/ files**
[03:03] <RNeville> hope this makes sense
[03:04] <RNeville> I can write to this drive now, under standard user , used Ben64 recommend command
[03:04] <reisio> sure doesn't
[03:04] <RNeville> recommended/recommend**
[03:05] <RNeville> I want to ssd to use while video editing - going to use this small drive to hold only current video project, as data drive
[03:05] <reisio> it's unlikely that is relevant :D
[03:05] <RNeville> I want two ssd/ ssd**
[03:06] <RNeville> I just will reformat to ntfs, for this small drive if I want to duel boot and use it as a data drive, reisio
[03:09] <RNeville> thx, everyone for the help, sorry if I went somewhat off topic
[03:09] <themusicgod1> so doing strace on fsck resulted in a bazillion* pread64's and then an abort
[03:09] <themusicgod1> see bottom of
[03:09] <themusicgod1> http://82.221.128.217/error.txt *
[03:10] <Capum321> reisio: it's a text, no ocr this time
[03:11] <reisio> Capum321: so you don't _want_ ocr, is that what you're saying?
[03:12] <Capum321> why so?
[03:14] <reisio> that is the question, if indeed it has an answer
[03:14] <reisio> anyway, try simple-scan
[03:14] <Capum321> from repositories?
[03:15] <reisio> yup
[03:15] <Capum321> and ocr feature?
[03:15] <reisio> if you want ocr, try pdfsandwich
[03:15] <reisio> that's in universe
[03:16] <Capum321> all right have a good night...
[03:16] <reisio> y tu, Capum321, y tu
[03:51] <rowe> Hey guys and gals. I'm trying to get OpenXcom to work on Wily. It installs to /usr/share, which is root owned.  So I can't add the needed files to that folder in order to make the game run. I'm new to Linux, so maybe this is a really easy fix. How do I add files to a root owned directory?
[03:53] <steeve149> hi, how can I update my version of openssl? I've already run sudo apt-get update -y && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y but it appears that I'm still on version 1.0.2g
[03:54] <steeve149> If it makes any difference, I hadn't used the machine I'm on in a while but I used the software updater to get to 16.04 LTS
[03:55] <krytarik> !info openssl xenial
[03:56] <steeve149> thanks for that!
[03:59] <rowe> How can I add files to a folder in /usr/share when it's owned by root? I'm the admin of this computer.
[04:00] <PipeItToDevNull> rowe: sudo
[04:00] <rowe> I'm new to Linux. So I do it in the terminal instead of the GUI?
[04:01] <steeve149> yep!
[04:01] <PipeItToDevNull> rowe: if you want to use GUI you can do `sudo nautilus` in a terminal
[04:01] <rowe> Thank you!
[04:01] <PipeItToDevNull> That will open terminal as root
[04:01] <PipeItToDevNull> nautilus*
[04:02] <krytarik> !sudo | rowe
[04:02] <Ben64> ew, shouldn't be doing sudo nautilus
[04:02] <rowe> Why not?
[04:02] <Ben64> can cause problems. so what are you trying to add in there?
[04:03] <rowe> I'm trying to transfer game files from XCOM UFO to my openxcom install.
[04:04] <Ben64> that doesn't sound like the proper way to do that
[04:05] <rowe> openxcom needs the original game files from UFO. Like how Brutal Doom needs a legit .wad
[04:05] <Ben64> i'm not even seeing openxcom in the repositories
[04:06] <rowe> http://openxcom.org/git-builds/ is where I got it from
[04:06] <Ben64> ok well i'd recommend using the terminal to copy things
[04:07] <rowe> Got ya. Can you point me in the right direction for getting those commands? Like I said, I'm super new.
[04:07] <rowe> Getting Ubuntu installed was a challenge for me.
[04:07] <Ben64> sudo cp <source> <destination>
[04:08] <rowe> Thank you.
[04:08] <Guest13368> how to set up wifi hotspot on linux?
[04:10] <PipeItToDevNull> Guest13368: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/297151/share-wifi-creating-hotspot-on-linux-mint
[04:10] <adalbert> nmcli device wifi hotspot ifname wlp3s0b1 con-name <WifiNAME> ssid <WifiNAME> password <password>
[04:10] <adalbert> nmcli device wifi hotspot ifname <wifi_interface> con-name <WifiNAME> ssid <WifiNAME> password <password>
[04:32] <Guest13368> adalbert: where to get <wifi interface>?
[04:32] <adalbert> ifconfig -a
[04:34] <Guest13368> adalbert: HWAddr?
[04:34] <Guest13368> on wlan0?
[04:34] <adalbert> wlan0
[04:36] <adalbert> wlan0 is the name
[04:36] <Guest13368> Error: 'dev wifi' command 'hotspot' is not valid.
[04:36] <adalbert> your wifi is not up
[04:37] <Guest13368> how to set it up?
[04:37] <adalbert> Enable Wifi:
[04:37] <adalbert> $nmcli radio wifi on
[04:37] <Guest13368> radio is unknown
[04:39] <adalbert> what is the output of $nmcli general status
[04:40] <Guest13368> general is unknown
[04:40] <Guest13368> nmcli nm
[04:40] <Guest13368> RUNNING         STATE           WIFI-HARDWARE   WIFI       WWAN-HARDWARE   WWAN
[04:40] <Guest13368> running         connected       enabled         enabled    enabled         disabled
[04:41] <adalbert> you don't have wifi hardware !
[04:42] <Guest13368> adalbert: what? I made this connection via wifi!
[04:42] <Guest13368> adalbert: now I want to share this connection via wifi hotspot
[04:43] <adalbert> well you can't hotspot a current wifi connection you need to disconnect to current connection
[04:43] <Guest13368> adalbert: actually i followed http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/297151/share-wifi-creating-hotspot-on-linux-mint
[04:44] <Guest13368> adalbert: you mean I can't hotspot a current wifi connection? that's too bad
[04:45] <Guest13368> adalbert: it does not work either for above link
[04:51] <Guest13368> adalbert: actually i created a wifi connection by following the above link and is shown in network connection tab. the only difference with other wifi connections is that it has no Auto in front of it.
[04:57] <Guest13368> so a wifi card cannot be used as both a client and hotspot?
[04:58] <Guest13368> adalbert: is there a limit on how many clients connected to a hotspot?
[05:09] <Guestie> So, I want to setup where my Ubuntu server emails me about system updates. Do I need to host a mail server, or does canonical do that for me?
[05:44] <archpc> should I switch from Windows 10 if I have an AMD GPU?
[05:51] <Bashing-om> archpc: Gammer ? hybrid graphics ? Now may not be a good time to switch to linux with AMD graphics; other wise, jump in the water is fine .
[05:51] <archpc> Bashing-om, I have a R9 290
[05:54] <ProblemWithShort> Hi, having trouble with Ubuntu Gnome. Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down are shortcuts I need to use in a program, however when using them, they switch to the workspace above/below, respectively. But when I open my keyboard shortcut settings, I can't find this combination bound to anything - there I can see Super+Up/Down configured for the same thing (and it works too). I'd like to disable the Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down shortcut globally, but no idea 
[05:55] <Bashing-om> archpc: That card is supported by AMD's latest driver ' AMDGPU-PRO ' .
[05:58] <gundas> hey i want to mimic a user visiting a website on command line
[05:58] <gundas> how can i do this
[05:59] <mrdual> hello everybody
[06:01] <uxfi> Hello mrdual
[06:01] <mrdual> hello uxfi
[06:02] <cfhowlett> mrdual, ask your ubuntu question
[06:21] <Attrz007> hi
[06:22] <gundas> hey i want to mimic a user visiting a website on command line
[06:22] <gundas> hey i want to mimic a user visiting a website on command line
[06:22] <Attrz007> bad
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Attrz007, ask your ubuntu question
[06:23] <gundas> poo
[06:23] <gundas> i like poo
[06:23] <cfhowlett> gundas, stop that.  now.
[06:23] <gundas> sorry
[06:23] <Attrz007> what is the topic there
[06:23] <cfhowlett> !topic | Attrz007
[06:24] <Attrz007> topic
[06:26] <Bioinfo> Hello. Is there an Off-topic Ubuntu Channel on FreeNode?
[06:26] <cfhowlett> Bioinfo, there is.  #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:26] <Bioinfo> cfhowlett: thanks !
[06:26] <cfhowlett> happy2help
[06:27] <Bioinfo> cfhowlett: oh. it's protected. needs identification. Np.
[06:27] <cfhowlett> !  wait 1
[06:28] <cfhowlett> Bioinfo, indeed.  well, sounds like it's time for you to register a nickname then.  please read       /msg uobttu nick
[06:30] <Bioinfo> cfhowlett: i am registered. just need to be identified. :-)
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Bioinfo, confused.  you've registered your nick, so sign into freenode with your password and you should be good to go
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Bioinfo, /msg nickserv identify <password goes here>
[06:33] <gundas> but i really like poo
[06:33] <cfhowlett> gundas, your were warned once.
[06:33] <Bioinfo> cfhowlett: am identified now. i was hesitating because am at work, using WebChat Freenode (Browser). Webchat doesn't provide all services.
[06:33] <gundas> sorry
[06:33] <gundas> I LOVE POO I LOVE IT SO MUCH
[06:33] <cfhowlett> !ops | gundas
[06:35] <Bashing-om> archpc: That AMDGPU-PRO driver is provided in the kernel on 16.04+ releases - 16.10 has the better support .
[06:35] <elky> cfhowlett: they're already gone.
[06:36] <cfhowlett> yep.  drive my trolling.  moving on.
[06:44] <wwwi> hello
[06:45] <wwwi> chromium froze my gui, so i want to kill it, i have access to the real terminal
[06:45] <ProblemWithShort> Hi, having trouble with Ubuntu Gnome. Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down are shortcuts I need to use in a program, however when using them, they switch to the workspace above/below, respectively. But when I open my keyboard shortcut settings, I can't find this combination bound to anything - there I can see Super+Up/Down configured for the same thing (and it works too). I'd like to disable the Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down shortcut globally, but no idea 
[06:45] <cfhowlett> wwwi, ps -x | grep chromium             then kill -9 ###
[06:45] <wwwi> but it has various processes, so i kill it with killall, right?
[06:46] <wwwi> cfhowlett: -9 is that sigterm?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> wwwi, I don't know the terminology, but kill -9 = terminate this process with extreme prejudice immediately!
[06:47] <wwwi> cfhowlett: what about killing it as gracefully as possible?
[06:47] <cfhowlett> wwwi, killall usually doesn't satisfy my bloodthirsty nature.  YMMV.
[06:49] <wwwi> cfhowlett: there are various processes named chromium-browse, so, i thought i should kill them all with killall? isnt it this a correct approach? instead i could kill them one by one with kill?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> wwwi, yep killall chromium *should* do the trick
[06:50] <wwwi> cfhowlett: ok, but i am having another problem, chromium-browse is exactly 15 characters, i should use killall -e chromium-browse or system might kill anything starting with c?
[06:51] <cfhowlett> wwwi, sounds right
[06:52] <wwwi> because command name is actually chromium-browser which is 16 characters, but it doesn't show at the terminal, e.g. at ps
[06:52] <cfhowlett> wwwi, ps -x | grep chromium-b*
[06:58] <wwwi> cfhowlett: i have 12 processes chromium browse
[06:58] <cfhowlett> cool.  killall
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> is there a way i can search apt-cache for latest packages?
[07:00] <wwwi> cfhowlett: ok, killall -e chromium-browse, right?
[07:00] <cfhowlett> wwwi, yep
[07:00] <wwwi> cfhowlett: ok, thanks, -w is unnessasary?
[07:01] <cfhowlett> doesn't seem to be a critical thing.  you might include the --verbose trigger so you can observe the details
[07:02] <wwwi> cfhowlett: ok
[07:03] <tayzar> hello
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> tayzar: welcome, what can we do for you
[07:05] <ltsreleasewhen> hello
[07:05] <ltsreleasewhen> What date is the next LTS release planned?
[07:05] <tayzar> yep! Thank ,I had AMD graphic card unsupport error
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> !releases | ltsreleasewhen
[07:07] <ltsreleasewhen> lotuspsychje seems like every 4th release a lts is released
[07:08] <ducasse> ltsreleasewhen: that's the idea, yes
[07:09] <ducasse> ltsreleasewhen: some time in april on even years
[07:10] <wwwi> cfhowlett: so, the process is listed as chromium-browse but to kill it i need to use killall -e chromium-browser which is the real name of the command?
[07:11] <ducasse> wwwi: try to use tab expand
[07:11] <cfhowlett> wwwi, chromium-browser should be the parent. kill -9 and the children should likewise perish
[07:13] <wwwi> cfhowlett: pstree says chromium-browse is the parent, but man chromium-browser is the man page
[07:18] <wwwi> ducasse: yes, if i type chromium-browse then tab i get chromium-browser
[07:19] <wwwi> so, i am not exactly sure how i kill it
[07:20] <wwwi> if i type chro tab i get both chromium-browser and chroot
[07:20] <cfhowlett> wwwi, chromium tab
[07:21] <wwwi> i kill it with killall -e chromium-browse or killall -e chromium-browser?
[07:21] <cfhowlett> asked and answered at least twice, right?
[07:21] <wwwi> cfhowlett: chromium tab shows chromium-browser
[07:21] <evgen_vasilev> Hi, I'm trying to boot to minimal initramfs with ssh, but ssh doesn't work. I can observe this error when I run ssh with strace "can't open '/dev/tty': No such device or address". Can anyone help me mount /dev properly?
[07:22] <cfhowlett> wwwi, you don't need my permission to try it
[07:22] <wwwi> cfhowlett: yes, i am just trying to undestand why ps doesnt just show chromium-browser and instead shows chromium-browse
[07:23] <Mtrz> I have an Intel tablet running 16.10. First time booting live USB worked great, subsequent boots on the same USB fail to get past a black screen. Using nomodeset allows booting, but disables xrandr rotate, leaving the screen sideways. Any suggestions?
[07:23] <wwwi> cfhowlett: so, i just enter killall -e chromium-browse as it is listed in ps and that will only kill chromium browser, not chroot too, right?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> wwwi, correct
[07:24] <wwwi> cfhowlett: ok, thanks
[07:24] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:25] <wwwi> cfhowlett: thanks
[07:28] <cableguy> team
[07:28] <cableguy> i jused renamed my phpmyadmin symlink to custom
[07:28] <cableguy> and when u go to it
[07:28] <hateball> Mtrz: model of tablet might be useful, do you know what gpu chipset it uses?
[07:28] <cableguy> it just lists index of /dir/ with all the files in it
[07:29] <cableguy> this shouldnt be happeniong
[07:29] <wwwi> ok, i run it, killall -e -v chromium-browse, it said skipping various partial matches, but it also skipped partial match chromium-browse, so it didnt kill chromium-browse
[07:29] <cfhowlett> wwwi, ***-browser
[07:29] <wwwi> and finally, it said chromium-browse no process found
[07:29] <shockernator> quit
[07:30] <cfhowlett> www1   share the url: ps -x | grep chromium | pastebinit
[07:31] <Mtrz> hateball: RCA w101-v2 with Atom Z3735F
[07:31] <villain> got a weird issue with 16.04 lts. the device renaming for network interfaces seem to break a particular card. if i disable the device renaming, everything works fine. any ideas?
[07:32] <Mtrz> hateball: everything worked perfectly on the first USB boot
[07:32] <Mtrz> hateball: ((x)ubuntu)
[07:37] <wwwi> cfhowlett: with this command, ps -x | grep chromium, i get lots of lines with an id, i assume the process id? and then some extra columns, like time and then chromium-browser and its arguments or the filepath to chromium-browser and then arguments. So, the process name is chromium-browser and i should kill it with killall -e chromium-browser?
[07:38] <cfhowlett> www1   share the url: ps -x | grep chromium | pastebinit
[07:38] <cfhowlett> !paste | wwwi looking for the paste please
[07:39] <wwwi> cfhowlett: i dont have pastebinit, apt-get pastebinit?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> wwwi, eh try this: ps -x | grep chromium | nc termbin.com 9999            same function: it'll return a url with your directed output
[07:41] <hateball> Mtrz: anything in Xorg.log ?
[07:42] <hateball> Mtrz: Is this a very new device? If so I personally would consider using the mesa ppa (padoka)
[07:44] <Mtrz> hateball: checking logfiles now; device is about 14 months old
[07:45] <cfhowlett> wwwi, still with us?
[07:45] <squig> argh, this is getting on my nerves, so my computer will loose its ethernet connection randomly, on a network manager restart its back.
[07:45] <squig> The cable doesnt become unconnected, and there is nothing in the syslog
[07:46] <wwwi> cfhowlett: yes, i will post it shortly
[07:50] <wwwi> cfhowlett: http://termbin.com/z84h
[07:50] <yasma1> hi
[07:51] <Mtrz> hateball: https://pastebin.com/FpuKaQKP
[07:52] <Mtrz> hateball: this is post-install, which has never successfully booted without nomodeset
[08:00] <hateball> Mtrz: hmmm, then I dont really know. As I said I would try the mesa ppa, or try with a mainline 4.9 kernel. But others may have other/better advice
[08:00] <hateball> Mtrz: and no difference if you try booting without quiet splash ?
[08:07] <Mtrz> hateball: nope
[08:07] <wwwi> hello
[08:07] <Mtrz> hateball: is there some way to rotate from mesa?
[08:08] <wwwi> killall -e -v chromium-browse says skipping partial match chromium-browse and that chromium-browse no process found, any ideas?
[08:08] <hateball> Mtrz: should be, it's the proper driver
[08:09] <hateball> Mtrz: I can rotate just fine using the gui tool in KDE Plasma at least, I have intel gpu as well
[08:10] <hateball> but it's on an older gen i5
[08:13] <Nicho1as>  I'm kind of pissed off.. but..
[08:13] <Nicho1as> guess I have to think it's the flow I've got to get used to
[08:13] <Nicho1as> ...
[08:13] <Nicho1as> which one is it? MiB or MB? when Ubuntu installer asks me for the volume of an LV
[08:14] <Nicho1as>  I want a perfect 1GiB
[08:16] <Nicho1as> I want a perfect 1GiB LV please..
[08:17] <peszi> Hey, Can someone please help me? I've installed Nvidia driver on Ubuntu 16.04, which worked great as long as I plugged in a second screen
[08:18] <peszi> then, the screens get extremely weird.
[08:18] <peszi> for example in nvidia-settings the laptop screen is not recognized, only the external screen
[08:18] <hateball> peszi: what does "then" entail
[08:19] <peszi> after plugging in the second screen, it is both recognized as the "built-in display" and the "external screen"
[08:19] <hateball> peszi: can you see all screens when you run "xrandr" ?
[08:20] <peszi> well, I am not sure what i see to be honest
[08:21] <peszi> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 3520 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384
[08:21] <Psychonaut> Mtrz, try unofficial build of ubuntu from http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/ made specifically for bay tail cpu
[08:21] <peszi> LVDS-0, DP-0,1,2 are disconnected
[08:21] <peszi> DP-3 is connected
[08:21] <peszi> DP-3 connected 1920x1080+1600+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 521mm x 293mm
[08:21] <hateball> !paste | peszi
[08:21] <Psychonaut> Mtrz, touch screen firmware -> https://github.com/onitake/gsl-firmware/tree/master/firmware/rca/w101v2
[08:22] <peszi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23953102/
[08:22] <peszi> actually, now the screen seems to work good
[08:23] <peszi> but my only problem is that if i want to switch the position of the screens, it gets crazy again
[08:24] <peszi> if the external screen is on the right to the built-in it is fine
[08:24] <peszi> but if I want to switch them, it's crazy
[08:26] <hateball> peszi: is this ubuntu with unity, or some other DE?
[08:27] <peszi> but i can switch the position of the screens only by using ubuntu's Display program
[08:27] <peszi> because I do not see the built in display in nvidia-settings
[08:28] <peszi> hateball: can you please tell me how I can check if I have ubuntu with unity or not?
[08:28] <Mtrz> Psychonaut: thanks for the suggestion - that patch is actually how I've got it working this well
[08:28] <Mtrz> Psychonaut: it worked beautifully on a fresh USB deployment, but not after rebooting
[08:29] <zamba> what does /sys%p/queue mean?
[08:29] <zamba> meaning.. the %p?
[08:29] <hateball> peszi: did you install Ubuntu, or Kubuntu, or Xubuntu etc?
[08:29] <peszi> Ubuntu
[08:29] <hateball> peszi: Right, then I dont know what could be up. I use Kubuntu (Plasma) myself and it has issues with multimonitor in default 16.04
[08:31] <peszi> oh ok
[08:31] <peszi> hateball: can you please take a look at my xorg.conf ?
[08:32] <peszi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23953124/
[08:32] <peszi> I've got multiple gpu's
[08:33] <peszi> one for battery saving, integrated one
[08:33] <peszi> and one dedicated, an nvidia gpu
[08:34] <peszi> ##ubuntu
[08:35] <hateball> peszi: I do not dabble with hybrid GPUs I'm afraid
[08:35] <hateball> peszi: are you using nvidia-367 with nvidia-prime? or some other combination?
[08:35] <hateball> all I know is that later nvidia drivers (there's a PPA) have better support for the hybrid stuff as well
[08:36] <peszi> hateball: yes, nvidia-367 with prime
[08:37] <hateball> peszi: were it me, I'd test with nvidia-378 from PPA and see if that helps things. It will move your xorg.conf to a backup tho, so you'd need to recreate that either manually or with the nvidia tools
[08:38] <peszi> alright, i will see :)
[08:38] <peszi> thank you for your help!
[08:49] <anddam> when enabling two fingers scroll in Unity there are two kinds of gesture recognized for scrolling, one where you move the two fingers togheter and the other where you keep a finger fixed and move the other one
[08:50] <anddam> they go along with the single setting in System Settings > Mouse & Touchpad > Two finger scroll
[08:50] <anddam> is it possible to have one and not the other
[08:50] <anddam> err that was a question
[08:50] <anddam> is it possible to have one and not the other?
[08:51] <[jasper]> hej guys, I'm trying to get displayport setup on my laptpo on ubuntu
[08:51] <[jasper]> I'm not getting any displays at all
[08:51] <[jasper]> can someone help me with this to see if my setup is correct?
[08:53] <Ben64> [jasper]: pastebin the output of 'xrandr'
[08:53] <Kartagis> ehlo
[08:54] <Kartagis> nvm, figured it out
[08:56] <cult-> hello, i would like to raise awereness of a broken library in ubuntu repository, i contacted the maintainer in email but he hasn't responded. what should I do?
[08:57] <rst0aic> hello
[08:59] <student> http://termbin.com/65lo hey what are the newest drivers avalible for gma 900 on ubuntu 16.04 ,according to wikipedia the mesa driver should have 2.1 opengl renderer
[09:00] <student> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM2MTA
[09:00] <k1l> !bug | cult-
[09:00] <student> at least fro gma 900
[09:01] <cult-> ubottu: the problem it is only related to 16.04, the binaries are broken because they have been built with different flags.
[09:01] <Ben64> student: the latest drivers are in the kernel, you got em already
[09:01] <lukma> Dear all,
[09:01] <lukma> Is there a way to compare two linux zImages with e.g. sha1, or md5sum ?
[09:02] <k1l> cult-: doesnt matter. you can file bug against packages for specific releases
[09:02] <Ben64> lukma: you can compare anything with sha1sum or md5sum, not sure what you mean besides that
[09:02] <lukma> Linux binary also includes the time of building
[09:02] <cult-> ubuntu-bug libodb-dev for xenial 16.04, more info: http://www.codesynthesis.com/pipermail/odb-users/2016-May/003280.html
[09:03] <lukma> so when I build two binaries at different times - simple md5sum will not work
[09:03] <k1l> cult-: run that command on your system. it will collect the data from your system and open your browser to add comments/info to the bugreport
[09:03] <lukma> my goal is to clean up the Kconfig mess without loosing functionality
[09:04] <cult-> k1l: its not a crash report
[09:04] <cult-> it doesn't collect anything
[09:04] <brisingrrr> I'm looking for an online text-editor that in-built python libraries/modules. What do you guys recommend?\
[09:04] <cult-> its a broken binary for a development package
[09:04] <villain> anyone have experience debugging issues with the predictable device naming in 16.04?
[09:05] <k1l> cult-: yes. but still launchpad.net is where bugs get filed. not matter if they result in a crash or just miss compile flags or such
[09:05] <Ben64> villain: nope
[09:05] <villain> when 16.04 renames some of my network cards, they stop passing traffic entirely
[09:05] <Ben64> villain: would help if you explained your issue though
[09:05] <lukma> Ben64: Has anybody tries to do that?
[09:05] <Ben64> lukma: not that i know of
[09:05] <villain> disabling the persistent renaming fixes the issue
[09:05] <cult-> k1l: do i need an account to file this report?
[09:06] <k1l> cult-: it doesnt make sense to spread bug reports all over different locations. so they all get collected on launchpad.net. that is what "bug-report" automates
[09:06] <Ben64> villain: it doesn't rename your cards in the middle of the day though, so your assertion doesn't really make sense
[09:06] <k1l> cult-: yes, on launchpad.net
[09:06] <villain> Ben64: if i boot the box with persistent renaming enabled (eth1 renaming to ens...), no traffic passes through the nics
[09:07] <villain> if i boot with it disabled (ethX stays as ethX), traffic passes fine
[09:07] <k1l> villain: could depend on the way you setup the interfaces
[09:07] <Ben64> that's entirely different than "when [it gets renamed], they stop passing traffic"
[09:07] <villain> k11: this is with no setup, straight after a standard install
[09:08] <villain> as soon as ubuntu starts its boot, the link light disappears from the nic entirely
[09:08] <cult-> k1l: i found a bug report already and this simple yet annoying issue didn't get solved: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libodb/+bug/1588330
[09:08] <villain> seems similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/biosdevname/+bug/1284043, but i'm not entirely sure
[09:08] <wwwi> hello
[09:09] <Ben64> villain: well come back with predictable names enabled and maybe can do some diagnosis
[09:09] <wwwi> kill -1 just tells a process to gracefully exit on its own?
[09:09] <villain> Ben64: sure, let me reboot the box
[09:11] <k1l> cult-: usually the package maintainer get signed to the bugs from their package. but you can subscribe someone lese there in the menu on the right
[09:12] <cult-> k1l: i doubt anyone will do it, can i do it? how to trigger rebuild?
[09:13] <Tendies> Hi, I'm trying to have my default terminal emulator set as urxvt so that when I use Ctrl+Alt+T it will open a terminal with urxvt. I've used the profile option to run a command instead of my shell, however it will open a default terminal and then open urxvt, leaving the default one open. How can I make only the urxvt one open?
[09:13] <k1l> cult-: trigger rebuild is only possible as pacakge maintainer. and since 16.04 is released you will need a stable release update excemption maybe
[09:13] <luka__> .
[09:14] <cult-> k1l: but the package maintainer is not responding
[09:15] <k1l> cult-: then i guess write a mail to ubuntu-devel(-discuss)
[09:15] <cult-> #j ubuntu-devel
[09:15] <luka__> did you install VLC?
[09:17] <wwwi> hello
[09:18] <wwwi> kill -1 just tells a process to gracefully exit?
[09:21] <Tendies> is my question not interesting enough
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> !patience | Tendies
[09:22] <Tendies> alright admittedly it's not been long this time, but previously I've been patient and 30 minutes later nobody knew i asked anything
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> Tendies: best way to get your issue solved is to repeat (all in one line) once in a while to the channel, with all your details
[09:22] <wwwi> my gui froze, it shows chromium exiting from full screen, i killed chromium, but gui is still frozen, so, what do i do? if i backup open, but saved files, will they be ok? then, i reboot pc from real terminal?
[09:23] <Tendies> don't use fullscreen in chromium on ubuntu is what i've stuck to
[09:23] <Tendies> it always freezes it
[09:23] <k1l> it doesnt always. works like a charm here
[09:24] <al2o3-cr> Tendies: sudo update-alternatives --set x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/urxvt
[09:24] <wwwi> Tendies: ok, but saving my open, but saved files in a backup, will result to corrupted backup?
[09:25] <wwwi> Tendies: my gui is still frozen
[09:25] <Tendies> can you get into a terminal session using ctrl+alt+1?
[09:25] <wwwi> Tendies: yes
[09:25] <wwwi> Tendies: i killed chromium, but gui is still frozen, i just told chromium to exit with kill -1 and it exited
[09:26] <PaulePanter> Hi.
[09:26] <k1l> wwwi: what programs?
[09:26] <PaulePanter> On Ubuntu 16.04 ureadahead.service is listed as failed.
[09:26] <wwwi> k1l: firefoz, text editors
[09:26] <PaulePanter> I was told by TUXEDO support, that is because, it’s just used for upstart.
[09:27] <PaulePanter> I don’t really believe that though.
[09:27] <PaulePanter> Any confirmations.
[09:27] <PaulePanter> ?
[09:27] <k1l> wwwi: usually its kill -TERM pid. but x programs are not designed to listen for TERM but a xserver command
[09:28] <k1l> wwwi: wmctrl could be a way to gracefully kill x programs
[09:28] <Tendies> PaulePanter: man ureadahead
[09:29] <Tendies> looks like they weren't joking to me
[09:29] <k1l> PaulePanter: 16.04 uses systemd. but some services still use upstart wrapper or sysvinit wrapper since they still not ported to systemd
[09:30] <k1l> wwwi: wmctrl -xl  will list the windows and you can close them with wmctrl -xc program.Program from that list.
[09:31] <wwwi> k1l: so, what about chromium? i killed it with kill, the window still survived?
[09:31] <Tendies> and thanks al2o3-cr
[09:31] <cult-> k1l: i want to get this solved, is there anything i can do?
[09:31] <al2o3-cr> Tendies: np
[09:31] <hateball> wwwi: probably because you didnt kill all processes it spawns
[09:31] <k1l> cult-: write to the ubuntu-devel(-discuss) mailinglist
[09:31] <poet> !queue http://www.speedtest.net/result/6034856035.png
[09:32] <wwwi> hateball: ok, i killed its parent, its possible that it spawned other processes, right? how do i kill those?
[09:32] <poet> uh wrong channel/network
[09:32] <k1l> cult-: add the bug report and other info there and that you could not reach the maintainer. and how this is an issue for a standard ubuntu
[09:33] <PaulePanter> Tendies, k1l: There is a dedicated service unit. https://paste.debian.net/913330/
[09:35] <PaulePanter> Tendies, k1l: Manually running it under strace shows the line below.
[09:35] <PaulePanter> openat(3, "events/fs/do_sys_open/enable", O_RDWR) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[09:37] <PaulePanter> … and adding the switch `--verbose` shows, that `/var/lib/ureadahead/pack` is not found.
[09:37] <wwwi> copying files that are open in an application could result in data corruption?
[09:40] <PaulePanter> Tendies, k1l: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/1429098 has the glory details. It’s my self-build vanilla Linux kernel. Sorry for forgetting to mentioning that.
[09:40] <PaulePanter> Let me try the shipped Linux kernel.
[09:41] <k1l_> PaulePanter: standard ubuntu kernel?
[09:42] <k1l_> PaulCapestany: is this a regular x86 or a arm box?
[09:44] <k1l_> PaulCapestany: seems like that is an issue on non standard ubuntu kernels since ages. and looks like systemd doesnt play with ureadahead at all?
[09:48] <newuser2> Hello everyone. I've just installed ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my laptop and ubuntu-gnome-desktop. I'm trying to change the default behavior of the power button. Regardless of what I do, the power button always suspends. I've tried gnome tweek tool, dconf-editor, and custom keyboard shortcuts. None work. Help.
[09:48] <wwwi> hello
[09:49] <wwwi> copying files open by an application, cannot lead to file corruption, right?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: what exactly are you doing?
[09:50] <k1l_> wwwi: did you use the wmctrl?
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> newuser2: can this help you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/66723/how-do-i-modify-the-options-for-the-power-button
[09:51] <cableguy> why "mv * .[^.]* .." is not working and it gives "mv: cannot stat '*': No such file or directory" why does it tag * as a dir
[09:51] <wwwi> k1l_: i dont have that
[09:52] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: my gui froze, i killed the offending app, but gui is still frozen, and i can still the offensing apllication open, i want to back up files, and safely reboot, with unmounting of drives etc, a safe reboot
[09:53] <newuser2> lotuspsychje: unfortunetly, what that asker wants to change is the behavior I want. For what it's worth, I've already tried gnome-tweek-tool, but whatever I set seems to be completely ignored by ubuntu.
[09:54] <newuser2> lotuspsychje: 14.04 did not have this issue, so I think it's a regression in ubuntu 16.04
[09:57] <brainwash> cableguy: are there any non dot files/directory present?
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> newuser2: did you check dmesg or syslog for weird behaviour perhaps?
[09:58] <cableguy> brainwash, probably theres like 10k files
[09:58] <cableguy> all i want is to take all of it and move one dir up
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: wich application are you talking about?
[09:58] <newuser2> lotuspsychje: No, It didn't occur to me. Thanks for the tip!
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> newuser2: if you didnt notice this issue in 14.04, perhaps you might want to consider a new !bug ?
[09:59] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: libre calc, kate, files are open, but saved, if i just copy them, can they become corrupt?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: when a system freezes, open files could be damaged or lost sometimes yes
[10:00] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: but the act of copying them, could corrupt them?
[10:01] <brainwash> cableguy: and none of them were moved up?
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: not sure i fully understand, your system freezed? how will you copy?
[10:02] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: the gui froze, but real terminal works fine, pc works fine in the background, i can see it with top
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: ah, i see if your file is saved correctly and you copy the file, why would it corrupt?
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: if you loose files anyway, there's always photorec to recover data if you need
[10:04] <cableguy> brainwash, no
[10:05] <cableguy> brainwash, it actually moved files only that start with dot so e.g. .htaccess .gitignore etc
[10:09] <aaran> Hi, whats the current suggested method of allowing active directory ldap logins on a ubuntu machine? I have found so many guides and I am unsure what is best practice
[10:09] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: i see, thanks. can i safely eject a usb stick from the terminal? i want to do that after i am done with the copying
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: safely unmount the usb first
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> !ldap | can this help
[10:10] <brainwash> cableguy: no clue then :/
[10:10] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: how do i safely unmount the usb drom the terminal?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> cableguy: perhaps the ##linux guys might know that
[10:11] <cableguy> whats the most correct channel to ask that anyway?
[10:12] <cableguy> im asking here cuz server running on ubuntu thats all
[10:12] <aaran> Thanks thats for installing openldap, I already have a MS AD server which I need to auth against though
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> !mount | wwwi
[10:12] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: thanks, after i plug usb, i need to run mount command?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> cableguy: channel choice depends on your specific question
[10:13] <spaceninja> hi i just installed ubuntu 16.04 lts. How do I update the package list. Also how do I installa  single package called exfat-utils?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> spaceninja: sudo apt update
[10:13] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: or the terminal will just do that for me?
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> spaceninja: sudo apt install your-package-here
[10:13] <spaceninja> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[10:14] <hateball> aaran: I *think* this is what is used currently, but I havent dabbled with AD authing for some time https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html
[10:14] <brainwash> cableguy: ask in #bash
[10:15] <aaran> Yeah, thats one of the guides I followed but was unable to get it working
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> aaran: perhaps #ubuntu-server might know where you got stuck?
[10:17] <aaran> thanks I will give it a go
[10:19] <wwwi> so, i attached the usb stick and terminal produced a few messages saying i plug the usb
[10:20] <wwwi> it sees the usb, but its not visible in the media folder, i need to mount it?
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: sudo fdisk -l shows your usb mounted?
[10:25] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: i got a list, with many lines, fdisk cannot open ... permission denied, and then last line says fdisk cannot open /dev/sdd permission denied, i think sdd is the new usb drive, is it mounted?
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: did you sudo?
[10:27] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: ok, i did sudo now. now i see the new drive with details in the list, but it doesnt say anything if it is mounted, actually i cant see anything about other drives being mounted too
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: try sudo unmount /dev/sdd if your files are saved correctly
[10:28] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: i havent saved anything yet, i cant see the drive in the media directory
[10:29] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: is the new drive mounted?
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: doesnt show in /media ?
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: i dont see why you dont just reboot and make your gui work again
[10:33] <villain> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/pksXVznE .. the ens3* devices are the ones not passing any traffic
[10:33] <spaceninja> im pressing the button  install in "ubunut software" for the "os update". I've done it two times, then I got a bar. Now the button is just there but nothing happens when I press it, no bar.
[10:34] <spaceninja> progress bar
[10:34] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: it doesnt show in media. i want to take a backup first
[10:34] <delphinny> anyone having issues with Xeon E3-1200 ?
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> delphinny: best to ask your specific issue in the channel, with all details
[10:35] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: get a backup, in case reboot, corrupts the open files
[10:36] <delphinny> ok, well whenever I plug in my HDMI cable into my computer I get logged out of Xwindows and it goes crazy, I am thinking it isnt liking my drivers that are for onboard video
[10:36] <weilz> hello all
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> spaceninja: perhaps the update is done? try it from terminal? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[10:38] <nikolam> How to make bootable Xubuntu flash drive from ISO, without having syslinux package (not running linux) ? I dd'ed ISO to USB drive but not booting
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> !usb | nikolam
[10:38] <k1l_> nikolam: what command did you use exactly?
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> delphinny: ubuntu version? graphics card chipset? driver active?
[10:39] <nikolam> seems also that oflag=direct does not work with dd. sudo dd if=xubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.iso bs=8192 of=/dev/rdsk/c7t0d0p0
[10:39] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: maybe, i need to mount the usb stick at this point?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: i would reboot
[10:40] <k1l_> nikolam: i dont know what /dev/rdsk/c7t0d0p0 is, but you need to dd to the bare metal, not to a partition
[10:40] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: why not get backups first?
[10:40] <delphinny> lotus: ubuntu 16.04 LTS  and its onboard video, I think its a Xeon E3-1200 .. driver active I dont know how do I check?
[10:40] <k1l_> nikolam: and only use the 32bit iso when you have a 32bit only cpu.
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: your trying things a weird way, a gui freezed with open files trying to copy without being able to close them
[10:40] <nikolam> k1l_, it's solaris raw disk designation, trying to make Ubuntu USB flash bootable, from downloaded ISO, using dd on Solaris/illumos (Openindiana)
[10:41] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: but copying them, even if they are open, shouldnt be ok?
[10:42] <delphinny> lotuspsychje:
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: i wouldnt trust to copy an open file
[10:43] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: could it damage them?
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: what other choice do you have to just try or reboot?
[10:44] <spaceninja> lotuspsychje: im trying to install but it seems to be locked by another process. I've closed the ubuntu software app.
[10:45] <spaceninja> lotuspsychje: which program coud be running?
[10:45] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: can i tell ubuntu from the terminal to exit open application, not to forcecebly terminate them and restart?
[10:45] <delphinny> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 16.04 LTS  and its onboard video, I think its a Xeon E3-1200 .. driver active I dont know how do I check?
[10:45] <spaceninja> lotuspsychje:  seems aptd is running.
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> delphinny: sudo lshw -C video
[10:46] <nikolam> I would like to know if I can do syslinux , to make bootable USB drive, by using dd instead of having to start syslinux command (since i dont' have syslinux package here)
[10:47] <delphinny> lotuspsychje: I get two entries from that
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> delphinny: whats behind driver= ?
[10:47] <k1l_> nikolam: when using dd you dont need todo anything to the iso. that is the idea behind the hybrid isos.
[10:48] <k1l_> nikolam: so i guess the dd doesnt work properly, the iso is corrupt or the machine got issues booting it.
[10:48] <nikolam> okwaho, will retest if it boots again.
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: just reboot
[10:49] <zeta> I cloned a disk using dd, but now I can't boot from either of them ... unable to mount root fs
[10:49] <ashii> Hi! I just installed ubuntu 16.04 and i'm setting it up as a dev machine, but I run into a problem, in terminal the urls that show there, don't open the browser correctly "x-www-browser URL" works correctly but the others don't, so my question is this, how do I change the default command for terminal to open webbrowser (I have installed google chrome)
[10:50] <delphinny> lotuspsychje: dont see driver=
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> delphinny: card shows unclaimed?
[10:50] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: i dont think copying the open file should be a problem. its not being changing and is saved
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> wwwi: ok, its your machine..just try then?
[10:53] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: yes, but the new usb drive is not mounted. i just create a new folder in media and mount the usb stick there? and when i unmount it, the folder will still exist and visible in the gui later as an empty drive? and if i plug the usb again, through gui, i will get a new temporary folder in media
[10:53] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: ?
[10:54] <wwwi> lotuspsychje: i entered lsblk and the drive doesnt have a folder
[10:55] <zeta> I hoped I would be able to just go back to the old disk if the new didn't work, but now I'm screwed
[10:58] <delphinny> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/J6dWqC4y
[11:01] <sruli> how do i launch SCREEN larger then default window size?
[11:08] <wwwi> i plugged a usb stick, but it was automounted, if i remove it from pc, will i lose data?
[11:08] <zeta> I successfully booted with a old kernel, pwew
[11:12] <hroi> hi
[11:12] <hroi> I wrote ubuntu 16.04 server to a usb -- it seems to allow me to install and recover, but I kinda need to get to a terminal
[11:12] <hroi> to run some checks on my disks
[11:12] <hroi> by hand
[11:13] <hroi> does the server iso not allow me to do that? (only desktop version?)
[11:14] <k1l_> hroi: the server "cd" is not a live cd
[11:14] <hrob> right
[11:14] <hrob> live is the word
[11:14] <hrob> ok so i better get the desktop live version
[11:15] <k1l_> yes
[11:27] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:33] <glosoli> Hey, how could one reset computer with Encrypted Ubuntu install without knowing a password for that user ? basically I bought Dell XPS and returned it back to the shop, they claim they need my personal password in order to take in computer to do proper reset
[11:34] <numnum> hi what is the diffrence between traceroute and tracepath?
[11:34] <ashii> solved my problem
[11:35] <Wadjenes> glosoli: it's possible to bypass that and reinstall with a disk of the OS, no need to take it to some place
[11:35] <Wadjenes> such as a usb/cd you booted from
[11:35] <glosoli> Wadjenes nah I mean I have it back using my 2 weeks guarantee in Europe
[11:35] <numnum> o/
[11:35] <glosoli> Wadjenes and they claim they need my password to reset it
[11:35] <k1l_> glosoli: you dont want to keep that data?
[11:35] <glosoli> k1l_ no
[11:35] <k1l_> then just tell them to reinstall
[11:35] <Wadjenes> ^
[11:35] <hateball> glosoli: There's no need for a password if you wipe/reinstall
[11:36] <Wadjenes> tell them to boot into BIOS
[11:36] <Wadjenes> xD
[11:36] <ashii> anyone who got the same issue as i had, when I installed google chrome as default browser ~/.local/share/applications$ cat google-chrome.desktop needs to have %u at the end of exec
[11:37] <numnum> what is the diffrence between tracerout and tracepath?
[11:38] <numnum> what is the diffrence between tracerout and tracepath?
[11:40] <numnum> what is the diffrence between tracerout and tracepath?
[11:40] <numnum> ok sorry i will wait
[11:40] <GoldGiglio> ciao
[11:41] <numnum> ciao?
[11:41] <deanman> Hi I'm looking ways on how to install "apt update indicator" as seen here -> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1139/apt-update-indicator/. Is there a PPA or a way to install on a Xenial release?
[11:41] <k1l_> numnum: since you seem to be very impatient i found a askubuntu question that asked exact the same question as yours and has a very detailed answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/114264/what-are-the-significant-differences-between-tracepath-and-traceroute  next time you could search and find that easily if its that important to you?
[11:41] <Wadjenes> ^ same lol
[11:41] <numnum> im sorry u r right
[11:42] <k1l_> deanman: are you using gnome-shell?
[11:43] <deanman> k1l_, I think I'm using the default one, Unity?
[11:43] <k1l_> deanman: then this gnome-shell thing will not work for you
[11:44] <deanman> k1l_, Yes I'm aware, some have been ported over to unity, like system load indicator. That's why I'm asking whether anyone had any hints for me since from google couldn't find any PPA repo.
[11:45] <k1l_> this is a list of some well known indicators: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available  is there something similar to that?
[11:46] <k1l_> iirc the gui updater will make a notification and/or indicator when updates are to be insatlled.
[11:47] <deanman> k1l_, yes that's right, looks like a feature i would like
[11:49] <deanman> k1l_, there seems to be a package associated with it, packagekit-tools. Do i need to restart the machine to see it?
[11:49] <deanman> ah sorry wrong remark, this is just a supporting lib.
[11:52] <GoldGiglio> ciao
[11:54] <wwwi> hello, gui is frozen, killed chromium that seem the culprit, gui is still frozen with chromium trying to exit full screen? is there still something i can do to unfroze the gui? and can i tell the os to gracefully close open application, and then reboot? i have access to the real terminal
[11:54] <wwwi> sorry, no question at first question, just a fullstop
[11:56] <BluesKaj> wwwi:  try F11 with chromium
[11:58] <k1l_> wwwi: as i said hours ago: wmctrl
[11:59] <wwwi> BluesKaj: can that help? i already asked chromium to exit with kill -1 and it exited, there are no more chromium processes, just chromium's screen on gui trying to exiting fullscreen
[11:59] <wwwi> k1l_: apt-get wmctrl?
[12:00] <k1l_> wwwi: no. apt-get doesnt have a wmctrl option
[12:00] <wwwi> k1l_: so, how do i install that?
[12:00] <Aaryan> Hello World
[12:01] <k1l_> wwwi: sudo apt install packagename #to install packages
[12:01] <wwwi> k1l_: wmctrl is a package too?
[12:02] <delphinny> whenever I plug in my HDMI cable into my computer I get logged out of Xwindows and it goes crazy, I am thinking it isnt liking my drivers that are for onboard video
[12:02] <k1l_> !info wmctrl
[12:02] <jsyntax> #hacking
[12:02] <wwwi> k1l_: but wmctrl wont require reboot, before it works?
[12:03] <k1l_> i dont know. but you dont have another chance to close gui apps gracefully
[12:04] <wwwi> k1l_: so, i killed chromium, but its window is still in the gui, so the window is some other process that still runs in x server?
[12:04] <Wadjenes> anyone customized their ubuntu setup? if so what software did you use?
[12:04] <k1l_> wwwi: chromium has more than one process.
[12:05] <k1l_> wwwi: and are you sure only chromium is crashed? and not the whole desktop?
[12:05] <wwwi> k1l_: i am not sure if just chromium crashed and not the whole desktop. but terminal works fine
[12:06] <wwwi> k1l_: but i dont know if whole desktop crashed, the processes of the open applications still run
[12:08] <wwwi> k1l_: so, i killed parent chromium process and the children vanished along with the parent, possible that some other process controls the chromium window or whole gui crashed, that why left bar and chromium are unresponsive? mouse still moves
[12:20] <anubisno1> hello gents
[12:20] <wwwi> anubisno1: hello
[12:20] <anubisno1> looks like a big community
[12:20] <pauloreloy> hello anubisno1
[12:20] <wwwi> i cant find how reboot behaves from terminal
[12:21] <anubisno1> sudu reboot
[12:21] <wwwi> will it greacefully close applications and processes?
[12:21] <pauloreloy> sudo reboot
[12:21] <anubisno1> 4 sure :)
[12:21] <wwwi> thanks
[12:22] <anubisno1> and know that half or maybe more of you are wankers, so i new to all this irc... and want to find some porn
[12:22] <wwwi> anubisno1: sudo reboot will gracefully close open applications and processes?
[12:22] <anubisno1> it will close them yeah
[12:23] <wwwi> anubisno1: gracefully, or force them to terminally, like abrubtly?
[12:23] <anubisno1> where do i need to look for porn, what chanels?
[12:23] <anubisno1> dunno
[12:25] <pauloreloy> lol
[12:26] <anubisno1> dude, i´m 4 real
[12:26] <basiclaser> hi there
[12:26] <anubisno1> hello
[12:26] <basiclaser> im trying to write to a new external hdd
[12:26] <anubisno1> oh c´mon, use the google
[12:26] <ppf> !google | anubisno1
[12:26] <hateball> !ot | anubisno1
[12:26] <anubisno1> oh wait! I can use google
[12:26] <hateball> basiclaser: Does your new drive have any partitions?
[12:27] <basiclaser> i just wrote it as an ntfs
[12:27] <anubisno1> c ya
[12:27] <basiclaser> im using ubuntu server
[12:28] <basiclaser> so having to mount with 'mount' i assume to media/usb for example, but then i can't open media/usb
[12:28] <basiclaser> its not writeable
[12:29] <k1l_> wwwi: no it will not gracefully close the programs
[12:30] <hateball> basiclaser: well you'd need to mount it with options such that your regular user can write to it, if you sudo mount
[12:30] <basiclaser> -o rw right?
[12:30] <ppf> file browsers like nautilus can do all those mounting things properly for you
[12:30] <hateball> basiclaser: if you just run "mount" what does the line for your external hdd say?
[12:30] <basiclaser> i only have cli
[12:30] <ppf> in case you don't really want to do it yourself
[12:30] <ppf> alright
[12:30] <wwwi> k1l_: so, it will just gracefully close the background processes and forcefully terminate open desktop applications?
[12:31] <k1l_> wwwi: for gui programs wmctrl is your only chance. if the desktop is not responding.
[12:32] <k1l_> wwwi: and it still depends on the programs you are talking about. there is no guarantee you can save your opened data.
[12:32] <k1l_> wwwi: some programs do have fallback and autosafe settings.
[12:33] <wwwi> k1l_: there is no guarantee that unsaved work will be saved, right? but saved work should be fine, with wmctrl?
[12:33] <k1l_> wwwi: if you saved your work already there is no issue to kill the program
[12:35] <wwwi> k1l_: but if i just kill the programs, can they corrupt the open files, although they are saved?
[12:36] <k1l_> i dont think so
[12:36] <k1l_> you could copy the data to another place to be sure
[12:39] <puddle> hey I have a bunch of datasets (csv,tsv,txt...) and a lot of them contains millions of line. What I would like to do is to get max 100k lines from them absolutely randomly (no repeated lines) and I would like to keep the header/1st line). Could somsone help me in which terminal command/tool could do this and how?
[12:39] <wwwi> k1l_: thanks
[12:44] <basiclaser> hateball: type ntfs
[12:46] <hateball> basiclaser: right, but you are accessing this partition as a regular user and not using sudo? then you'd want to supply options to mount pointing out which user/group
[12:49] <ahsan_> how to install any software from source cloned from git??
[12:49] <k1l_> basiclaser: file permissions on the mountpoint?
[12:49] <basiclaser> ahsan_: depends entirely on the project
[12:50] <k1l_> ahsan_: look at the readme from that project. most times you need to compile it
[12:50] <ahsan_> please help me with vlc.
[12:50] <k1l_> ahsan_: is there a reason for cloning git? what is wrong with the version ubuntu ships or with the vlc team ppa?
[12:51] <ahsan_> when i configure it. i get error of some missing dependencies and i dont know how to add them
[12:51] <olmari> hello
[12:52] <k1l_> ahsan_: is there a reason you need that version and cant use the ubuntu one?
[12:53] <olmari> I have odd problem or quirk more of... basically when I install mine ubuntu "trough" debootstrap, everything works otherwise exactly as should, exept for some reason network-manager doesn't handle most of mine networking devices... and yes I've checked all the things google can throw at me.. interfaces -file, NM-settings files and such... nothign I do makes it want to manage mine devices :D
[12:58] <hateball> !compile | ahsan
[12:58] <ahsan> how to install vlc from git source
[12:59] <basiclaser> hateball: im using sudo and it says 'interdevice  move failed: a to b unable to remove target; read-only file system'
[13:01] <k1l_> ahsan: i still think compiling is not needed here. but you keep ignoring my questions for more info.
[13:02] <ahsan> k1l: actually i want to modify the code and install it
[13:02] <k1l_> ahsan: then do it and compile the program afterwards.
[13:04] <ahsan> how to compile it. when i configure it it says that it miss some dependencies and i am not able to fix it
[13:04] <k1l_> details matter. show the errors on paste.ubuntu.com and link it here
[13:06] <ahsan> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23954181/
[13:07] <hateball> basiclaser: right, like I said, what does it say when you run only "mount" ? does it say rw or ro?
[13:07] <hateball> basiclaser: also what are you actually trying to do, looks like you are trying to move stuff?
[13:07] <basiclaser> hateball: ro
[13:07] <basiclaser> hateball: yeh transfer files to external
[13:07] <hateball> basiclaser: remount it rw then
[13:08] <k1l_> ahsan: configure: error: Missing libav or FFmpeg
[13:08] <k1l_> ahsan: so isntall one of that?
[13:08] <k1l_> ahsan: i bet vlc does name the dependencies in the readme. so please read that
[13:09] <k1l_> ahsan: it will be way faster that just try and error
[13:10] <ahsan> k1l: i have already installed ffmpeg
[13:10] <mcphail> ahsan: one way to cheat and get all/most of the dependencies installed would be "apt-get build-dep vlc"
[13:10] <basiclaser> hateball: ok done now i can get in the drive, permission denied , and if i use 'sudo cd' i get 'command not found'
[13:11] <mcphail> ahsan: that will pull all the dependencies needed for the _ubuntu_ version. it may not be all that is required for the git version
[13:11] <k1l_> ahsan: did you or did you not read the readme?
[13:12] <ahsan> k1l: i read that
[13:13] <hateball> ahsan: for compiling you will need the -dev packages, something you should be aware of if you think you should be compiling in the first place
[13:13] <ioria> ahsan, it is probably looking for the -dev packages (or for other version of ffmpeg)
[13:14] <ahsan> hateball: how can i get those dev packages and paste them to sources.list manually??
[13:14] <royal_screwup21> I'm looking for a file that has the word "xyz" in it. What's the easiest way to do this?
[13:15] <k1l_> !info libavcodec-dev
[13:15] <hateball> ahsan: surely the documentation tells you this
[13:15] <Pavr> royal_screwup21, grep xyz [file or dir]
[13:17] <hateball> royal_screwup21: grep -r, if you want to do it recursively
[13:17] <ioria> ahsan, but you'll still have a lot of wanings, it wont stop the compiling, but you might have trouble in future, when you'll try to use some features
[13:17] <groundze1o> hello need help...i always see in nethogs "/usr/bin/tor" .. i deinstalled tor..torbrowser-launcher etc...how do i block these connection???
[13:17] <royal_screwup21> Thank you, Pavr, hateball!
[13:17] <ahsan> ioria: how to compile after configure
[13:18] <Pavr> ahsan, what changes are you making to vlc?
[13:18] <ioria> ahsan,  you chose the worst pkg to start learning .... :] ... btw is make ...
[13:19] <Pavr> ahsan, if you don't mind me asking :)
[13:19] <k1l_> !compile | ahsan
[13:19] <ahsan> parv: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[13:20] <groundze1o> and..when /usr/bin/tor sends data..and i do kill the process in htop, the whole system cracks down...wtf
[13:20] <k1l_> ahsan: as i said often, it might be better to use precompiled packages. but on your way you have to read and learn a lot now. it will not be just run 2 commands and it works.
[13:22] <ahsan> pavr:
[13:22] <groundze1o> !whois
[13:22] <Pavr> ahsan, ?
[13:22] <ahsan> pavr:  make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[13:23] <ahsan> pavr: this error while make
[13:23] <ioria> ahsan, did you run  ./bootstrap ?
[13:23] <ChadTaljaardt> Hello :)
[13:23] <ahsan> ioria:  yes did bootstrap
[13:23] <ChadTaljaardt> can someone pelase help me downgrade bazel. I cant continue with my Honours project until i get it sorted :/
[13:24] <ioria> ahsan, repaste .configure
[13:25] <pragmatist1>  Hello! I have a new Dell XPS 15 9560, and after a bunch of struggle, for the most part, everything is running smoothly, with one exception. My system will not wake up from suspend. The screen is black, but the keyboard backlight comes on and the power is clearly there but it does not wake up. Any suggestions?
[13:27] <hirano> hirano
[13:28] <ahsan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23954261/
[13:28] <ahsan> ioria:
[13:28] <pebkac_notreally> Just installed Ubuntu and now my rig won't boot... gets stuck verifying dmi pool data... tried to reinstall thinking something got corrupt but no joy... any other ideas?
[13:29] <ioria> ahsan, still errors, you don't have a Makefile to run make
[13:30] <ioria> ahsan, as it says --disable-avcodec to ignore this error    (does not sound good, anyways)
[13:30] <hateball> pebkac_notreally: is this a dual boot, single boot, uefi, etc?
[13:30] <hateball> !details | pebkac_notreally
[13:31] <ahsan> ioria: can u give me example of some project which dont need so much dependencies to try compiling
[13:31] <ioria> ahsan, a text editor ? :þ
[13:32] <pebkac_notreally> Right-o. Single boot on a SSD, blew away a windows 10 install... not a clue if its UEFI. Ditched encryption attempts after the first install didn't work (not sure if relevant).
[13:32] <ahsan> ioria: which one? emacs vim nano?
[13:33] <ioria> ahsan, wait.... maybe i don't get your goal
[13:33] <pebkac_notreally> No real errors or anything useful. The install runs great and then indicates to remove install media and hit enter which I do. It goes for a reboot and during the bootup gets stuck on "Verifying DMI Pool Data". Even left it overnight in case it wanted to do some thinking or something.
[13:33] <hateball> pebkac_notreally: is it using uefi and even secure boot? or are you using legacy bios?
[13:34] <ioria> ahsan, if you use ubuntu , use it as it has been thought
[13:34] <pebkac_notreally> No encryption on the latest install. I believe its using legacy bios?
[13:35] <hateball> pebkac_notreally: if you intend to single-boot, you might wanna consider changing to legacy boot if it is currently using uefi, then reinstall
[13:35] <hateball> It should work with uefi, but... meh
[13:36] <ioria> ahsan, if you want lean c or c++  or java , then start with a tutorial and in few weeks you'll get the point of what you're doing right now
[13:36] <j4f-shredder> hey, something happened and my ssh service now hangs up indefinitely even with ssh localhost
[13:36] <j4f-shredder> what could be happening?
[13:36] <j4f-shredder> yesterday I was able to connect
[13:37] <j4f-shredder> I'm on ubuntu 16.1
[13:37] <ahsan> ioria: i know c well. i have changed some of the shortcut keys of vlc to just try. but i am unable to build it.
[13:38] <j4f-shredder> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[13:38] <ioria> ahsan, ok, so you understand the last error you got ?
[13:39] <ioria> ahsan, why did you run make if configure ddn't tell you that a Makefile has been created ?
[13:39] <ahsan> ioria: I get it there is a mismatch of version of libavcodec
[13:40] <ahsan> ioria: how to fix all those error while configure??
[13:40] <Anticom> Hi all. What's the proper libz dev package for precise? is it libghc-zlib-dev ?
[13:40] <pebkac_notreally> hateball: I'm not seeing any secureboot options in BIOS - going to boot into live CD to try and change UEFI (following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_Legacy_mode)
[13:41] <ioria> ahsan, it told you
[13:41] <rizonz> what is the best way to create routes when I have 2 interfaces ? like I have eth0 with 172.16.2.1 in a /24 and eth1 172.16.10.1 in a /24 and want to use eth1 for my 172.16.0.0/19 and my eth0 for all traffic to incoming and outgoing to the public
[13:42] <ahsan> ioria: should i pass ignore error or try to replace with the required version
[13:44] <ioria> ahsan, you can't replace the version
[13:46] <Homely_Girl> Hi, can somebody plse help me, was messing with my display settings n I hid my menu bar n dunno how to get it back!!!
[13:47] <ChadTaljaardt> can someone pelase help me downgrade bazel. I cant continue with my Honours project until i get it sorted :/a
[13:47] <Homely_Girl> I'm on my mobile phone so plse be patient with me
[13:47] <ChadTaljaardt> Homely_Girl what menu bar?
[13:48] <Homely_Girl> With all my programmes on it,  I think it's called dash??
[13:48] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: usually you dont donwgrade
[13:48] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: you mean the launcher bar on the left?
[13:48] <ChadTaljaardt> k1l_ i need to, the software im using wont work with the latest version of bazel. https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/4748
[13:48] <Homely_Girl> ChadTaljaardt: the one with all my applications
[13:48] <ChadTaljaardt> the answer is there i just dont know how to do it
[13:49] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: and hiding the launcher is a different thing than changing display settings
[13:49] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: start unity-tweak-tool and make it unhide again=
[13:50] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: Yes I think I've hidden it,  how do I get it back please?
[13:50] <j4f-shredder_> everytime I connect with the postgres user to ssh I loose the service and I have to reinstall it
[13:50] <j4f-shredder_> I don't know why
[13:51] <k1l_> ChadTaljaardt: i dont know any of those 2 projects. i guess you should ask bazel if they can solve the issue differently or what version is to be used. then you need to manually install that
 Homely_Girl: start unity-tweak-tool and make it unhide again=
[13:51] <IhrFussel> Ubuntu 16.04: For some reason nano asks me if I want to "continue" the editing when I try to open a certain file but there are NO nano processes running...no matter if i say yes/no/cancel it throws me back to the terminal with a whole bunch of error codes
[13:52] <k1l_> IhrFussel: is there a "backup" file on the same folder?
[13:52] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: How do I do that,  I'm not that geeky lol
[13:52] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: start the "unity-tweak-tool" program and change the setting?
[13:53] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: that is nothing geekly or difficult.
[13:53] <IhrFussel> k1l_, first 2 lines "fab7df49000 r--p 00000000 09:01 7210137    /usr/share/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/nano.mo"
[13:53] <IhrFussel> Yes there is a .save file
[13:53] <k1l_> IhrFussel: rename that .save file i guess
[13:53] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: I have a blank desktop but do know how to open a terminal
[13:54] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: so you dont even have a panel at the top?
[13:54] <IhrFussel> That save file is an old one through...I guess it got created in the past when I opened it with gedit once
[13:54] <IhrFussel> though*
[13:55] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: becaue it might be you didnt just "change the display settings" but messed with the video driver so the desktop doesnt work properly now.
[13:55] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: nope
[13:55] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: ok, doe the guest account work properly?
[13:55] <k1l_> IhrFussel: did you remove/rename it and tried again?
[13:56] <Anticom> Homely_Girl: usually you should be able to open a term using CTRL+ALT-T
[13:56] <k1l_> IhrFussel: because it sounds like its trying to open the fallback .save file. and since its not a nano one its breaking nano. so please rename it so nano is not trying to open it.
[13:57] <Homely_Girl> killtheliterate: I don't have access to anything, can't run anything now menu is gone,  my laptop logs me in automatically
[13:57] <IhrFussel> k1l_, I removed the .save file but there's another .swp
[13:57] <k1l_> IhrFussel: rename that too
[13:59] <wwwi> hello
[13:59] <wwwi> is sudo reboot a clean reboot?
[13:59] <Anticom> IhrFussel: afaik, .swp's are from vim
[13:59] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: open a terminal with alt-ctrl-t then run "gnome-session-quit" in there
[13:59] <Anticom> wwwi: define "clean"
[13:59] <k1l_> wwwi: its still not saving your opened data
[13:59] <IhrFussel> k1l_, THANKS it works again
[13:59] <wwwi> does it unmount drives and does whatever is supposed to be clean?
[13:59] <raub> To run skype in pidgin I see pidgin-skype, which is in the default repos, and pidgin-skypeweb which requires a PPA. Should I pick the PPA one per http://askubuntu.com/questions/9065/how-to-integrate-skype-into-pidgin ?
[14:00] <k1l_> wwwi: yes
[14:00] <wwwi> k1l_: that's ok about the data, i dont have any unsaved data, by the way i tried the wmctrl, but it wont install
[14:01] <wwwi> so, sudo reboot is like a reboot from the gui?
[14:02] <raub> wwwi: yep
[14:02] <Anticom> wwwi: afaik it's not **exactly** the same but more or less yes
[14:02] <raub> Anticom: I would expect it to call reboot or shutdown in the end of the show
[14:02] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: it tebooted, asked 4 my password n it's still menu less 😖
[14:02] <Anticom> raub: sure, but iirc unity has some own (weird) wrappers arround that
[14:03] <Anticom> raub: so TL;DR; is yes
[14:03] <wwwi> ok, thanks. i just tried, and i got message please retry after clossing inhibitors and logging out other users
[14:03] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: no. you need to logout and choose guest account to test if its a systemwide issue or if its just your user setting.
[14:03] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: is there a way to get into settings via terminal?
[14:03] <wwwi> so, how do i do those?
[14:03] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: try with "gnome-session-save --force-logout"
[14:03] <raub> wwwi: I thought the GUI one would also ask to logout the other suers
[14:04] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: Aaah, I'll try now ta
[14:04] <wwwi> sudo reboot, from terminal, not the gui
[14:05] <Anticom> wwwi: probably there's a force flag... RTFM :]
[14:05] <Guest21062> hi
[14:06] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: I logged out n it automatically comes up with kogging me back in,  no guest
[14:06] <raub> Anticom: I think shutdown -r will not do handholding
[14:06] <k1l_> wwwi: sudo reboot can take a bit
[14:06] <wwwi> Anticom: but what are those inhibitores and who are those other users, services?
[14:07] <Anticom> wwwi: dunno what machine you're working on? is it your PC is it a server etc. ?
[14:07] <raub> wwwi: "who" should tell you who is around in said machine
[14:08] <Anticom> who -a is even better :>
[14:08] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: ok, then please do "sudo systemctl restart lightdm.service"
[14:08] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: this is just an easy test to see if just the user is messed up or the whole system
[14:09] <wwwi> raub its me in the gui, me in the real terminal and the guess
[14:09] <wwwi> raub the guest
[14:09] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: Is there a way to create a guest user acc from terminal?
[14:09] <Anticom> wwwi: then you've just locked guest account and not properly logged out
[14:09] <Anticom> wwwi: so sudo reboot -f
[14:10] <Anticom> finito (:
[14:10] <wwwi> Anticom: but does the -f will result in a unclean reboot?
[14:10] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: there should be the option to choose the guest user on the login screen. dont login to your user, we know that is broken
[14:11] <wwwi> since i killed the desktop applications, i can just restart the gui, right?
[14:11] <Anticom> wwwi: good question, man page actually doesn't clearly say anything about that
[14:11] <raub> wwwi: It will tell every running application to shut down and kick out all users. Then it will go through the normal rebooting procedures. It is not like just pulling the power cord.
[14:12] <zeta> I have to upgrade my hdd to another disk with a different block size 512 vs 2096 any ideas ?
[14:12] <raub> wwwi: i.e. unmount fileshares, close encrypted devices, turn off lvm, and so on
[14:12] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: it was underneath,  yay my nenu is there!!   So how do we fix my login??
[14:12] <Anticom> raub: Hm in my man page it says "Force immediate halt, power-off, reboot. Do not contact the init system."
[14:13] <Xenier> which is the default vnc server on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[14:13] <Xenier> and what port does it use?
[14:13] <raub> Anticom: I stand corrected!
[14:13] <Anticom> raub: :p
[14:14] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: ok. so please go to the tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1 you can go back to gui with ctrl+alt+f7) then login to your user. then do "mv .config .config_backup". after that go back to gui and see if the login works now
[14:14] <Anticom> wwwi: btw what ubuntu version are you on?
[14:14] <aruns> Hi, running Vim 7.4 on Ubuntu 16.04 Vagrant box (using version 0.6.0 of Laravel Homestead), and I am trying to configure clipboard support for Vim, tried sudo apt-get install -y vim-gnome which seems to have downloaded the package, and have clipboard sharing enabled on VBox between guest and host (host is Mac OS X 10.11.6 - El Capitan)
[14:14] <raub> But is still not like yaking th epower cable... which I have done before. :-"
[14:14] <wwwi> Anticom: 15, but i will upgrade
[14:15] <aruns> And I can yank text in Vim, but I can't do something like "+y to yank to the system clipboard.
[14:15] <aruns> And running whereis vim-gnome just gives me vim-gnome: as output
[14:15] <Anticom> wwwi: 15 hasn't migrated to systemd, right?
[14:15] <k1l_> Anticom: sure it has
[14:15] <aruns> How can I enable clipboard support?
[14:15] <aruns> Something I am doing wrong?
[14:15] <k1l_> Anticom: but ubuntu 15.04 and 15.10 are dead already
[14:15] <Anticom> wwwi: well then `systemctl reboot` is the way to go anyway
[14:16] <k1l_> but the service command should still wrap it to systemd
[14:16] <Anticom> k1l_: cheers. I upgraded from trusty to xenial straight away so i never touched 15
[14:16] <donofrio> anyone know what #channel tampermonkey is or what irc server?
[14:16] <k1l_> !alis | donofrio or see their website for informations
[14:17] <Xenier> nvm
[14:17] <wwwi> Anticom: why reboot instead of restarting the gui and reboot from gui?
[14:17] <wwwi> Anticom: i mean why reboot from t rminal?
[14:17] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: I'm lost
[14:17] <xharx> hi. I try to start startxfce4 but in the logfile I see the error "...Cannot open /dev/tty0 (permission denied). With sudo it starts. how can i start manually as normal user?
[14:17] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: whwew
[14:17] <k1l_> *where
[14:18] <xharx> I tried to add the user to the group vide, but no effect
[14:18] <xharx> what else can I do?
[14:18] <Anticom> wwwi: well of course you can still do the things via GUI. Just wanted to let you know that with systemd halting / rebooting etc. is also managed by systemctl
[14:18] <k1l_> xharx: on ubuntu you start the *dm, like lightdm
[14:18] <k1l_> xharx: that will start the xserver and such
[14:18] <Anticom> afaik the reboot / shutdown commands are only aliases for systemd based systems anymore but could be wrong there
[14:18] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: I logged back in as me,  no menu ..... Now wot?
[14:18] <xharx> I know, but i have to tweek, because x starts in a bad mode
[14:19] <xharx> its rotated and cant be fixed with xrandr
[14:19] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: did you rename the .config dir?
[14:19] <wwwi> Anticom: so, reboot -f doesnt do things like unmounting drives?
[14:19] <raub> k1l_: How do you start the dm that runs xfce?
[14:19] <Anticom> wwwi: i honnestly don't know
[14:19] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: no I missed that bit sorry
[14:19] <raub> Automatically I mean; right now I am using startx
[14:19] <wwwi> Anticom: ok
[14:20] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: How do I do that?
[14:20] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: that is the point of changin to the tty1 to rename that folder. but now you can start a terminal with ctrl+alt+t and run "nautilus". then rename the .config folder. then logout again
[14:20] <xharx> i have stopped lightdm with sudo service lightdm stop
[14:20] <Anticom> wwwi: however if it's really the guest user blocking you from rebooting w/o -f flag. look up user using who, then do something like sudo pkill -KILL -u <username>
[14:20] <Anticom> that should log him out
[14:20] <Anticom> and hence make reboot cmd happy again
[14:20] <k1l_> raub: start lightdm or whatever dm is installed. then choose the xfce session on there
[14:21] <wwwi> Anticom: ok
[14:21] <xharx> i used this howto https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/XServer/#XServer-beenden
[14:21] <Anticom> wwwi: so many options to choose from :>
[14:21] <raub> k1l_: I guess I need to install a *dm first...
[14:21] <wwwi> Anticom: yes
[14:22] <k1l_> raub: which is standard on ubuntu
[14:22] <raub> k1l_: ubuntu server, so no *dm installed
[14:23] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: It came n went!!???
[14:24] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: ?
[14:24] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: keep in mind i dont see what you see. so please be precise what you do and what you see.
[14:25] <raub> k1l_: I thought when I installed xfce4 it would pick a *dm, but that was not the case
[14:25] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: I login n for a second the menu is there n then it's gone!
[14:26] <k1l_> raub: yes, only the xubuntu-package will pull that in, iirc
[14:26] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: I thought I'd set it to hide until my mouse went there to it
[14:26] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: forget about the launcher. look at the top bar please. that should always show
[14:27] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: Yes that's there
[14:27] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: ok, so its the launcher bar still missing?
[14:27] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: I need the launcher
[14:28] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: Yes,  launcher is missing
[14:28] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: come on, concentrate. i did not ask what you need, i did ask if its still missing since i cant see what is in fron of you
[14:28] <donofrio> weird anyone else see freenode drop out or just me ;(
[14:28] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: Launcher is still missing
[14:28] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: please open a terminal with "ctrl+alt+t" and run "unity-tweak-tool" there you can set the launcher bar settings
[14:30] <k1l_> raub: just checked, only the xubuntu-desktop package depends on lightdm.
[14:31] <raub> k1l_: But there is nothign saying I can't just plop lightdm by itself sinc eI already have xfce4, right? Also, is it the lightest dm?
[14:32] <k1l_> raub: no, you can install lightdm just fine
[14:33] <xharx> on a laptop i try to find the wlan-connector. lspci and lsusb don't show anything. Where could the connector be found?
[14:34] <raub> xharx: Check the dmesg output to see if it tried to get it and then gave up
[14:34] <k1l_> xharx: in one of those. make sure its not disabled by the bios or the a hardware switch or set to off in windows before
[14:35] <k1l_> xharx: can you show the lspci and lsusb output on pastebin?
[14:35] <xharx> on windows it works. Any hint how to filter dmesg?
[14:35] <raub> xharx: dmesg | less
[14:35] <xharx> k1l_: comölicated...
[14:36] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: I'm in a pickle now,  I'm at command level n can't get back to my login
[14:36] <hateball> xharx: if you have no internets at all you can still redirect to a file and copy using a thumbdrive or so
[14:36] <hateball> xharx: and then pastebin from the machine you use now
[14:36] <xharx> hateball: that should work
[14:37] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: what did you do? what happend?
[14:37] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: nothing i told you should result you in a cli
[14:38] <Homely_Girl> k1l_:  I'll login to irc on my ipad  cos I can barely read this
[14:38] <k1l_> ok
[14:42] <ash_workz> okay, I need some 101 help here
[14:42] <Capum321> hello
[14:43] <ash_workz> if I have an nvme drive, that shows up in /dev/nvme* where * are all the partitions of that drive right?
[14:43] <Capum321> does hplip or cups have scanning feature?
[14:44] <ash_workz> so my first question is, does the fact that the /dev/nvme* directories exist imply that they're mounted?
[14:44] <EriC^^> ash_workz: try ls -l /dev/nvme
[14:44] <EriC^^> ash_workz: no
[14:44] <ash_workz> EriC^^: okay, so what exactly shows in /dev ?
[14:45] <EriC^^> ash_workz: any devices that udev has shown
[14:45] <ash_workz> EriC^^: udev is a program?
[14:45] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yup, it's a progra that handles devices
[14:46] <Scourje> elky:  what the
[14:46] <Scourje> you really are a shill high command
[14:46] <Scourje> im coming
[14:46] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I see; well anyway, so what happens when you plugin a usb? udev is auto-launched, usb dectected, and sdb created?
[14:47] <Scourje> i still have that pic of u
[14:47] <Scourje> amERICANDREam
[14:47] <Scourje> who who
[14:47] <Scourje> WHO HERE LIVES IN MICHIGAN
[14:47] <Scourje> i know one of you does
[14:47] <k1l_> Scourje: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support
[14:47] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yes, udev is always running, type "udevadm monitor" in a terminal and plug a device in, you'll see it in action
[14:47] <Scourje> k1l_: how about this
[14:47] <__Yiota> hey guys, my softlayer instance is dropping connections after 60 seconds, I've already modified the nginx proxy)timeout setting, so I am not gettinga  504 anymore
[14:48] <__Yiota> now the connections are dropped
[14:48] <Scourje> take LSD
[14:48] <__Yiota> is it possible it's a TCP socket timeout?
[14:48] <ash_workz> EriC^^: neato, and then ever after that sdb should be present?
[14:48] <Capum321> hello
[14:48] <Scourje> or how about this
[14:48] <Capum321> does hplip or cups have scanning feature?
[14:48] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yeah
[14:48] <Scourje> is something wrong
[14:48] <Scourje> i should leave somethings up
[14:49] <ash_workz> EriC^^: okay, so next question; if a drive shows up in lsblk with a blank mountpoint then said drive is not mounted?
[14:49] <Scourje> if i leave theyll know i know that they know
[14:49] <hateball> Capum321: hplip provides drivers for anything using SANE
[14:49] <Scourje> im gonna stay here
[14:49] <Scourje> unless
[14:49] <Scourje> is something wrong
[14:49] <Scourje> i should leave somethings up
[14:49] <Scourje> oh god im in a thought loop
[14:49] <Scourje> if i leave theyll know i know that they know
[14:49] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yeah
[14:50] <Capum321> what is sane?
[14:50] <Zewwy> what the
[14:50] <ash_workz> I see
[14:50] <Zewwy> Sorry, Ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error.
[14:50] <schoppenhauer> hi. what to use for remote desktop access? I used to use x2go, but somehow, this does not seem to be supported too well.
[14:51] <ash_workz> EriC^^: thanks for that
[14:51] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I don't have any more questions atm, but those little tidbits really help
[14:51] <hateball> Capum321: if you have hplip installed you should also have the "scanimage" utility
[14:51] <xpistos> Hey guys I am trying to setup a script that will run once a month, quarter and year that will basically just concate a weekly text file. Any ideas on how to write it
[14:51] <EriC^^> ash_workz: no problem
[14:51] <Capum321> hateball: what is SANE ? do I have to download any other program besides hplip? like simple-scan? scan-image should be in the Menu?
[14:52] <hateball> Capum321: scanimage is run from CLI
[14:52] <ash_workz> EriC^^: unless you specifically know if nvme works the same as any storage device on linux ? ^ ^;
[14:52] <schoppenhauer> I need something which I can suspend
[14:52] <Capum321> hateball: i see
[14:52] <hateball> Capum321: for a GUI frontend to SANE there is Xsane
[14:52] <EriC^^> ash_workz: right now you have /dev/nvme and you want to mount any partitions it has?
[14:53] <hateball> Capum321: you may need to install the package sane-utils
[14:54] <ash_workz> EriC^^: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ... the ultimate goal for me was to have postgres use nvme for a tablespace with heavy writes.
[14:55] <ash_workz> I didn't realize though there were so many partitions
[14:57] <ash_workz> s/( though)/,\1, that/
[14:58] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what does sudo parted -l show?
[15:00] <ash_workz> EriC^^: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c2c9d9a30676099e746bbe9b1e4f875e
[15:01] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I didn't realize that was annoymous
[15:01] <EriC^^> it's giving an error
[15:03] <ash_workz> yeah
[15:03] <ash_workz> for each partition
[15:03] <EriC^^> no i mean the link isn't working :D
[15:03] <ash_workz> lol
[15:03] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/ash-m/ed263a3e59d7e660f340403c1f0046b5
[15:04] <EriC^^> ash_workz: you have 4 of those nvme disks?
[15:05] <ash_workz> EriC^^: mer, I thought they were partitions, but maybe... lemme see if I can check
[15:05] <ash_workz> EriC^^: (this is offsite)
[15:05] <xharx> pastebin
[15:06] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok
[15:06] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I think there were supposed be 2, but maybe that turned into 4
[15:07] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I am assuming that since there'
[15:07] <EriC^^> ash_workz: are they empty?
[15:07] <ash_workz> ugh, that happens sometimes with apostrophes for me; I hit return to early
[15:07] <ash_workz> anyway
[15:08] <EriC^^> no problem, same here
[15:08] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I am assuming that since there's nvme{0..3} *and* nvme{0..3}n1 that just the number shows the drive and the n1 shows the partition... maybe?
[15:08] <ash_workz> sorry
[15:08] <ash_workz> in /dev
[15:09] <ash_workz> EriC^^: so I guess it ended up as 4 drives
[15:09] <vlt> Hello. I have an Ubuntu 12.04 machine with this VGA: "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter" "Kernel modules: sisfb" and it's running 1920x1080 just fine.  The same machine with Ubuntu 16.04 defaults to 1024x768 on X.  Any idea what package might be missing?
[15:09] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yeah it looks like they are 4 drives without a partition table or anything on them
[15:10] <ash_workz> EriC^^: okay, so perhap I should make some kind of pool for pgdata ?
[15:10] <EriC^^> ash_workz: i'm not sure about the unrecognised disk label error though, hmm
[15:10] <ash_workz> EriC^^: as a note, the nvme[0..3}n1 names under lsblk have no mount point
[15:11] <ash_workz> s/mount point/mountpoint
[15:14] <EriC^^> ash_workz: i guess so
[15:15] <xharx> why cant i write to a fat32 stick, also not as root?
[15:15] <vlt> I made a comparison: On 12.04 there's "xserver-xorg-video-sis" installed, on 16.04 it isn't. Which apt, dpkg or similar command shows me _where_ a pkg came from?
[15:17] <iresf> hi everyone
[15:17] <EriC^^> xharx: it might be mounted as root
[15:17] <vlt> This seems to be the pkg: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/xserver-xorg-video-sis and it's not available on xenial. How can I find out which pkg I need instead on 16.04?
[15:18] <iresf> i want to install docker on ubuntu 16.04  but docker-engin does not install on ubuntu     this is my problem
[15:18] <iresf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23954823/
[15:19] <k1l_> iresf: your ppa or 3rd party repos is broken
[15:19] <EriC^^> vlt: is it related to usb?
[15:19] <xharx> EriC^^: and in such cases, I cant write to it as root with eg ls >file ?
[15:19] <vlt> EriC^^: I don't think so.
[15:20] <EriC^^> xharx: you can, what command are you trying?
[15:20] <iresf> k1l_ how to solve it  ?
[15:20] <Anticom> iresf: how did you install docker?
[15:20] <EriC^^> xharx: are you logged in as root in the shell or trying sudo ls > file ?
[15:20] <k1l_> iresf: use the official ubuntu packages or tell the one who runs your 3rd party repo to fix that
[15:21] <noimnotninevolt> maybe `sudo (ls > file)` ?
[15:21] <iresf> Anticom : first  : sudo apt install docker.io      that did not work    then second way i doeloaded deb and install that
[15:21] <MrOpenSource> its possible to use skype in Pidgin??
[15:22] <EriC^^> ash_workz: i'm not too sure about the pool stuff you're talking about, no idea about these stuff :)
[15:22] <k1l_> iresf: what did not work? the official ubuntu package should work to install. please show the error in a paste
[15:22] <ilmaisin> iresf: did you look what those commands your output was suggesting to run say?
[15:22] <ash_workz> EriC^^: thanks anyway, you've been immensely helpful
[15:22] <xharx> my old question: on a laptop i try to find the wlan-connector. lspci and lsusb don't show anything. Where could the connector be found?
[15:22] <xharx> paste here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23954836/
[15:23] <EriC^^> ash_workz: no problem
[15:23] <iresf> ilmaisin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23954848/
[15:23] <iresf> k1l_:http://paste.ubuntu.com/23954848/
[15:24] <Anticom> iresf: i guess there's an issue because in the PPA the package that installs docker is called docker-engine, in the official repos it's docker.io
[15:25] <k1l_> iresf: "docker" is not the docker program. its a gnome thingy. so you need to insatll docker.io as package. but please stop blindly installing pakages now
[15:26] <Anticom> <k1l_ why stop installing random packages. Sounds like afun game to me :>
[15:27] <iresf> The group `docker' already exists as a system group. Exiting.
[15:27] <iresf> Job for docker.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status docker.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[15:27] <iresf> k1l_ : after installing docker.io it says  docker already exist
[15:27] <k1l_> iresf: sudo apt purge docker-engine docker
[15:28] <iresf> k1l_ : it can not remove it
[15:29] <k1l_> iresf: please show the output
[15:30] <iresf> k1l_:http://paste.ubuntu.com/23954868/
[15:32] <k1l_> iresf: sudo groupdel docker
[15:32] <k1l_> iresf: then run again
[15:32] <genii> So one package was in middle of being installed and it's trying to finish that with addgroup but failing because the other one is trying to be removed
[15:33] <k1l_> genii: yep, thats a mess of blind installs. removing the group should let the process run to the end
[15:34] <iresf> kl1_  "  i deleted group but remove or purge command can not delete docker-engine
[15:35] <genii> Alternately, edit it's preinst/postinst
[15:35] <Homely_Girl> k1l_: I'm sorted!!!  By flook I pressed alt F1 n my menu popped out,  went into settings n reversed auto hide!  Thank u 4 your patience
[15:35] <k1l_> Homely_Girl: ok
[15:36] <k1l_> iresf: details matter a lot. please show the output
[15:37] <xrandr_laptop> about to switch from fedora to ubuntu on my desktop :)
[15:37] <iresf> kl1_   : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23954907/
[15:37] <k1l_> iresf: ok, so that is removed
[15:38] <k1l_> iresf: sudo apt update & sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:38] <PaulePanter> Tendies, k1l: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/1429098 is incorrect. At least it doesn’t work with Linux 4.9.
[15:38] <iresf> ok   i ran
[15:40] <k1l_> PaulePanter: so you are not on a standard ubuntu kernel (that is what i asked at the beginning)
[15:42] <PaulePanter> k1l_: Indeed, just found that out. I used `apt-cache policy ureadahead` mistakenly.
[15:42] <PaulePanter> k1l_: Thank you for your help.
[15:43] <k1l_> PaulePanter: as explained in that bug you linked its not working for non-standard kernel since they miss the ubuntu patches.
[15:45] <PaulePanter> k1l_: Yes. Thank you.
[15:51] <xharx> i try one more: on a laptop i try to find the wlan-connector. lspci and lsusb don't show anything. Where could the connector be found?
[15:51] <xharx> paste here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23954836/
[15:51] <Edi2> bok, recite mi kako da napišem tilda sa tipkovnicom koja je stavljena na HR jezik?
[15:52] <k1l_> xharx: dualboot?
[15:52] <k1l_> xharx: did you look at bios and made sure no hardware switch is turned off? did you try to press the shortkeys for wifi?
[15:53] <xrandr_laptop> Are the NVIDIA drivers easy to install with Ubuntu?
[15:53] <xrandr_laptop> I'm hoping it doesn't prove to be too much of a hassle :)
[15:53] <k1l_> xrandr_laptop: yes, ubuntu ships pacakges in the repos and you can install them in system settings
[15:54] <xrandr_laptop> k1l_, and it will overwrite the noveau driver or remove it?
[15:54] <xrandr_laptop> i mean make the system use the nvidia driver instead of noveau?
[15:54] <k1l_> it will manage the nouveau driver, yes
[15:56] <shade34321> On start up network manager doesn't seem to be starting dnsmasq and thus I can't resolv anything. Any ideas as to why this is happening or where I can find some more information to troubleshoot it further?
[15:56] <xrandr_laptop> k1l_, what do you mean by it will manage the noveau driver?
[15:57] <k1l_> xrandr_laptop: it will take care of it. it will work. no manual fiddeling needed
[15:57] <xrandr_laptop> awesome
[15:57] <k1l_> some nvidia cards do need "nomodeset" to be able to boot with nouveau once until the nvidia driver is installed.
[15:58] <mattf> hi
[15:58] <xrandr_laptop> k1l_, ok
[15:58] <mattf> I have ubuntu 16.04 installed on a amd processor computer and it gets completly frost very often
[15:58] <xrandr_laptop> k1l_, thanks!
[15:58] <mattf> like when i start using theterminal or firefox
[15:59] <xharx> k1l_: I'm not sure if dualboot. I have windows and an unsuccessful xubuntu install, that i access over grub bootprompt
[15:59] <mattf> how can i find what is causing the problem? The only solution is to force it to turn off
[15:59] <mattf> ctrl+alt+f1 does nothing
[15:59] <xharx> Switches should be ok, because on Windows it works
[15:59] <mattf> its really frost
[15:59] <mattf> which are the log files location i should look at?
[15:59] <compdoc> mattf, you mean frozen
[15:59] <mattf> whatever, i just gets stuck
[16:00] <mattf> the mouse doest move, nothing responds
[16:00] <compdoc> mattf, its most likely a bad hardware
[16:00] <mattf> any way to get logs?
[16:00] <mattf> find whats causing it?
[16:01] <xdv> mattf, can you ping it from another machine on the local network?
[16:01] <compdoc> mattf, a bad hard drive, bad ram, bad cooling fans, or bad power supply. or a combination of those
[16:01] <xdv> if so then probably a graphics card issue, otherwise could be bad disk sectors or the like
[16:01] <vlt> Hello. What is the successor of the package http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/xserver-xorg-video-sis in Ubuntu 16.04?
[16:01] <mattf> good idea
[16:01] <mattf> it doesnt have a graphic card but
[16:01] <mattf> can be something like that
[16:02] <mattf> i once runned memtest on it but there were no errors
[16:02] <pragmatist1> Can anyone here help me with sleep issues? My laptop doesn't wake up from suspend.
[16:02] <compdoc> mattf, you can use the Disk Util to see if the hard drive is going bad
[16:04] <EriC^^> pragmatist1: did you try acpi_osi stuff in grub?
[16:04] <bentech4you> hi, anyone successfully implemented iscsi target with targetcli? please share some documents
[16:05] <pragmatist1> nope. Never heard of that. Is there a link with instructions?
[16:05] <mattf> its not a problem wit HD
[16:05] <k1l_> xharx: some crappy hardware got crappy windows driver that shut down the wifi completly so it cant be seen on another OS on dualboot. can you power down the laptop completly and remove the battery, wait a bit and then boot straight into ubuntu?
[16:05] <mattf> I check the disk
[16:05] <k1l_> vlt: i wonder if sis cards will be supported anytime soon.
[16:05] <compdoc> mattf, you cant tell that way
[16:05] <EriC^^> pragmatist1: open a terminal and type "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep Windows"
[16:06] <bentech4you> s this channel supporting ubuntu server related questions
[16:06] <k1l_> bentech4you: yes it is
[16:06] <mattf> I used disk util i mean
[16:06] <mattf> xD and i particioned this disk before
[16:06] <mattf> used gparted
[16:06] <mattf> and its a new HD
[16:06] <bentech4you> then please share documents for targetcli implementation.
[16:07] <bentech4you> i cannot able to find detaled one on site
[16:07] <mattf> most likely a BIOS issue or a overheating
[16:07] <mattf> but it is about 4 ºC here
[16:07] <compdoc> mattf, well, new can go bad too, but you can look eleswhere
[16:07] <vlt> k1l_: The machines with these cards were/are running perfectly fine on 6.06, 8.04, 10.04 and 12.04.  Up to 1920x1080.  I just need the same functionality now on 16.04.
[16:07] <pragmatist1> EriC^^, I get a lit of windows versions from 2001 to 2015
[16:07] <compdoc> mattf, only the SMART info can tell you if the drive is bad. only that
[16:08] <mattf> what is the smart info?
[16:08] <mattf> how to get it?
[16:08] <compdoc> mattf, all drives record problems inside their circuit board
[16:08] <bentech4you> it worked one time for me, after that drivers unloaded automatically and drive went offline on initiator, now i cannot able to login to target
[16:08] <compdoc> thats SMART
[16:09] <EriC^^> pragmatist1: ok, when the pc boots, hold shift to get grub, then press 'e' then go to the line at the bottom that says linux vmlinuz..... quiet splash and make it quiet splash acpi_osi="Windows 2015" then press ctrl+x
[16:09] <pavlos> mattf, see https://www.smartmontools.org/
[16:09] <mattf> aw thanks
[16:10] <mattf> But i dont remember it right, but i think it also got frost on a live usb
[16:10] <pragmatist1> EriC^^, I'll give that a shot, thanks!
[16:10] <k1l_> vlt: i found some people just grabbing xorg-driver-sis671_0.9_i386.deb and installing that on 16.04
[16:10] <EriC^^> pragmatist1: no problem
[16:11] <vlt> k1l_: Sounds good. Thanks, I'll try that!
[16:12] <k1l_> vlt: but the support for that old hardware (that was a pain back then) is running out. maybe 14.04 is the last LTS running on that, still having 2 years support
[16:13] <ash_workz> why aren't my bash expansions working on my server? :\
[16:13] <q_> ers
[16:13] <basiclaser> when i plug in an external , it shows up as sdh1 & sdh2, former is EFI 200M, latter is 1.8T - which device should i mount for usage/storage/transfer
[16:14] <bentech4you> Any help for iscsi
[16:15] <o_00_o> my dick hurts
[16:15] <rmstar> hi guys...quick question.
[16:16] <charlie_sanders> rmstar, whats up
[16:16] <EriC^^> basiclaser: the 1.8T one
[16:16] <rmstar> what is /var/tmp used for and how can i change the location?
[16:17] <EriC^^> basiclaser: the efi partition makes it seem like there's an OS on that disk btw
[16:17] <charlie_sanders> I dont think anyone actually uses /var/tmp , but why would you want to rmstar ?
[16:17] <rmstar> charlie_sanders: the script that we are running uses that for some reason.  i thought it was something in the OS that is making it use that
[16:18] <charlie_sanders> hmm, you could grep for that path in /etc  , see whats using it
[16:18] <nacc> i'm fairly sure systemd uses /var/tmp
[16:18] <charlie_sanders> grep -rni "/var/tmp" /etc
[16:19] <charlie_sanders> nacc,  yeah apparmor for sure uses it
[16:19] <rmstar> charlie_sanders: i see /etc/security/namespace.conf and apparmor, like you said
[16:19] <pavlos> rmstar, /var/tmp data is preserved during reboot unlike /tmp which has a short life
[16:20] <charlie_sanders> ahha, thx pavlos
[16:20] <charlie_sanders> *ding,ding*
[16:20] <rmstar> pavlos: ah....
[16:20] <rmstar> lol
[16:20] <rmstar> ok...thanks guys.  i think the problem may be in the script i'm using.  i will check that out :)
[16:21] <vlt> k1l_: I'm trying the .deb fix first but get a dependency issue. The package I found is this: xserver-xorg-video-sis_0.10.7-0ubuntu6_i386.deb (from http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/xserver-xorg-video-sis/download). Where did you get the ...671 from? And how to solve the dep for xorg-video-abi-15?
[16:22] <rmstar> i love it that there's a channel in freenode for almost everything i am looking for lol
[16:24] <k1l_> vlt: i dont have that .deb. maybe this helps you to get a working 1024 at least: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/set-sis-graphics-1024x768-l-ubuntu-mate-14-04-and-16-04-16-10/3553
[16:25] <basiclaser> EriC^^: which format should i format my drive for use between linux/osx
[16:27] <vlt> k1l_: No, this looks like vesa only.
[16:27] <EriC^^> basiclaser: i think osx can't read ext4, not sure, i think you need to use the osx fs, i think its hpfs or something
[16:27] <vlt> k1l_: Trying a native 14.04 setup.
[16:27] <vlt> k1l_: Thank you.
[16:27] <EriC^^> basiclaser: hfs
[16:39] <xrandr_laptop> if i am replacing a fedora install, and it used a /dev/mapper can I just choose that as the disk to install ubuntu on, or do i need to select a physical disk (ie /dev/sde) ?
[16:40] <xrandr_laptop> k1l, thoughts?
[16:41] <EriC^^> xrandr_laptop: in the installer it would ask to install next to fedora if there was free unallocated space, or offer to erase the whole disk and install ubuntu
[16:42] <Aaryan> Anyone can help me about my fan issue on Lenovo?
[16:42] <EriC^^> xrandr_laptop: there's always the Something else option which lets you manually partition and choose where it gets installed
[16:42] <xrandr_laptop> EriC^^, ok. I have other disks attached to my computer and I don't want that data to be overwritten
[16:42] <xrandr_laptop> i have a win10 install, and some mac osx disks that i don't want touched
[16:43] <EriC^^> xrandr_laptop: i would choose the Something else option and manually tell it where to install
[16:43] <EriC^^> (note also the bootloader location at the bottom)
[16:43] <xrandr_laptop> so do i just use the something else, and then select the /dev/mapper that has two of my disks combined so that it gives me my 1.1T ?
[16:44] <xrandr_laptop> EriC^^, should I use ext4 or xfs?
[16:44] <EriC^^> xrandr_laptop: i'm not sure if it will show you a dev mapper there, to be honest
[16:44] <EriC^^> ext4 imo
[16:44] <xrandr_laptop> EriC^^, it does show me the /dev/mapper in Something Else :)
[16:44] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[16:46]  * xrandr_laptop crosses his fingers
[16:49] <xrandr_laptop> EriC^^, do you know what the difference betweeen xfs and ext4 is?
[17:06] <lzto> Hey, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my XPS 15 9550, I'm having trouble to get ubuntu to recognize the raid1. Would it be better to just install the server version of ubuntu than install a desktop? There's no differences besides packages by default correct?
[17:07] <pauloreloy> lzto, is it raid by hardware?
[17:10] <mattf> ok i look all over the SMART info of my hd and there are no errors
[17:10] <iparhan> Hello
[17:10] <mattf> hi
[17:11] <mattf> im having a problem with a freezing ubuntu 16.04
[17:11] <iparhan> How i can chage the ubuntu to Windows7
[17:11] <mattf> not able to switch to tty1 or any when it freezes so its no the X server
[17:11] <iparhan> How i can change the ubuntu and reinstall windows 7
[17:11] <xrandr_laptop> dpkg seems to be stuck (post install). How can I unstick it?
[17:12] <mattf> it is not HD, memory or overheating,
[17:12] <iparhan> Hello
[17:12] <OerHeks> iparhan, load your windows cd and boot from it? not really an ubuntu issue
[17:13] <lzto> pauloreloy: default BIOS setting is set to raid, I could switch it to ahci but not sure how that will impact other aspects, would need to test it out
[17:13] <mattf> is not a graphic card issue
[17:13] <mattf> since im on a ssh session that also freezes when it happens
[17:13] <mattf> alt+PrintScreen REISUB doesnt do anything
[17:13] <mattf> when it is freezed
[17:13] <mattf> what else can it be??
[17:14] <OerHeks> lzto, choose ahci, not raid, as you need a free partition somewhere to put grub on.
[17:14] <iparhan> Oerkeks
[17:14] <mattf> anything i can search on the logs for
[17:14] <mattf> ?
[17:14] <iparhan> Can u tell me the detail ?
[17:14] <OerHeks> iparhan, no, join ##windows for support perhaps?
[17:14] <iparhan> o  thanks
[17:15] <xrandr_laptop> nevermind, it unstuck itself :)
[17:15] <mattf> any known problem with athlon processors?
[17:15] <mattf> please i need help for this computer
[17:17] <mattf> could it be unstable timming?
[17:18] <keith_beebop> hey guys
[17:18] <keith_beebop> can someone tell me if the boot is logged to a file I can see.. the stuff that scrolls by at boot?
[17:19] <keith_beebop> Would like to see what is acctually loading and if I could trim it of stuff not needed.
[17:20] <xrandr_laptop> post install, how can I encrypt my filesystem?
[17:20] <keith_beebop> got a very old Acer laptop that has SIS display and is not much but just experamenting with trimming it down a bit
[17:21] <keith_beebop> No LSB modules are available.
[17:21] <keith_beebop> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[17:21] <keith_beebop> Description:	Ubuntu 15.10
[17:21] <keith_beebop> Release:	15.10
[17:21] <keith_beebop> Codename:	wily
[17:21] <mattf> hey this comp looks a lot like mine: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f64/solved-how-to-identify-cause-of-linux-system-freeze-556981.html
[17:22] <mattf> can it be a cloking issue??
[17:22] <OerHeks> !15.10 | keith_beebop upgrade, this version is dead.
[17:22] <mattf> but i was completly unable to install windows on this comp
[17:23] <OerHeks> xrandr_laptop, you should choose encrypt during install
[17:23] <keith_beebop> It's actually Xubuntu 16.4
[17:24] <OerHeks> keith_beebop, really? how come you spam those lines ?
[17:24] <xrandr_laptop> OerHeks, yeah I forgot to do it and I don't want to go through reinstalling
[17:24] <xrandr_laptop> i JUST installed the OS
[17:25] <xrandr_laptop> so is there a way to encrypt now?
[17:25] <keith_beebop> ubottu well leme try again that may have been old profile
[17:25] <noimnotninevolt> couldn't you boot from a live/recovery image and encrypt that way?
[17:26] <OerHeks> xrandr_laptop, i suggest to reinstall.
[17:26] <noimnotninevolt> i'd suggestin reinstalling also.
[17:26] <keith_beebop> ubottu Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[17:26] <keith_beebop> Description:	Ubuntu 15.10
[17:26] <keith_beebop> Release:	15.10
[17:26] <keith_beebop> Codename:	wily
[17:26] <OerHeks> noimnotninevolt, home folder perhaps, by moving stuff from unencrypted to encrypted, but whole disk, no
[17:26] <OerHeks> !paste
[17:26] <OerHeks> keith_beebop, so you have 15.10, upgrade pleas
[17:27] <noimnotninevolt> yea, not fde.
[17:27] <keith_beebop> ooops sorry
[17:27] <keith_beebop> didn't know how to do that
[17:30] <lafleurdubien> Is there a way to add packages to a live CD session and have them persist after a reboot?
[17:30] <keith_beebop> ok I suppose I can go in and uncheck the Lubuntu software Check for updates and try it
[17:31] <keith_beebop> but I have tried to install Mint on this and it didn't run, old sis video and it didn't like it
[17:31] <OerHeks> lafleurdubien, that needs a lot of work, with !uck
[17:31] <OerHeks> !uck
[17:32] <OerHeks> keith_beebop, known issue, sis is pretty old, no youtube/hw-acceleration so it is a nice doorstopper
[17:32] <shashank__> xampp installation issues on ubuntu 16.04 xenial
[17:33] <shashank__> phpmyadmin and localhost not starting?
[17:33] <shashank__> need some help.
[17:33] <keith_beebop> yep exactly
[17:33] <keith_beebop> but it runs boinc projects and make a good garage heater :)
[17:33] <VaultBoy> anyone able to help me
[17:33] <shashank__> Well whenever I type localhost in the firefox it is showing error 404
[17:34] <shashank__> also phpmyadmin is not starting
[17:34] <Pici> shashank__: there is zero reason to use xampp on Ubuntu. Please use the packages in our repositories instead.
[17:35] <Pici> !xampp
[17:35] <OerHeks> shashank__,  we don't support XAMpP, lamp only
[17:35] <shashank__> no.. no
[17:35] <VaultBoy> im having a system issue
[17:35] <shashank__> it is lamp only
[17:35] <shashank__> but the localhost is showing error404
[17:35] <shashank__> also the phpmyadmin
[17:36] <Pici> shashank__: how did you install phpmyadmin?
[17:36] <shashank__> actually i installed it through xampp which same as lamp but it is cross platform.
[17:37] <shashank__> so i installed it through the terminal
[17:37] <shashank__> apt functionality
[17:37] <keith_beebop> OerHeks ubottu  thanks we'll try update or upgrade and see, no loss if it clanxs
[17:37] <Pici> shashank__: As we said, we do not support XAMPP installs. You are not using the packages in our repositories, you are using someone else's packages and someone else's configurations for those packages.
[17:37] <shashank__> and then further on gui opened through which i completed the installation
[17:38] <xrandr> ooh, it worked!
[17:38] <xrandr_laptop> :)
[17:38] <Pici> shashank__: We have no idea what those configuration changes are. If you want to switch to using our packages, we will gladly help you.
[17:38] <shashank__> I would be glad to switch if that is gonna work.!
[17:38] <Generic> Hello, guys
[17:39] <shashank__> Please send me the package details and installation directions
[17:39] <Generic> Sudo -i apt-get install coffee \cup
[17:39] <VaultBoy> I would like to request some help please :/
[17:40] <Pici> shashank__: All of the instructions are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[17:40] <Generic> Vaultboy we all listen
[17:40] <xrandr> brb
[17:40] <VaultBoy> Generic, im having an issue where If i use the Ubuntu desktop it crashes like within 1 minute but lxde is fine and gnome desktop wont even boot
[17:41] <Generic> Interesting let me think about that
[17:41] <KLON> nie
[17:42] <shashank__> Thanks Pici I would surely try it and let you know!
[17:42] <xrandr> ok, this theme for hexchat looks mildly better :)
[17:44] <KLON> hello
[17:44] <VaultBoy> Generic, im doing a reinstall from the live ubuntu 16.10 disk would that help?
[17:45] <Generic> Give us more info about your Ubuntu
[17:45] <VaultBoy> info as in
[17:45] <VaultBoy> so I know what to give
[17:48] <xrandr> How does one get Desktop effects like Wobbly Windows in Ubuntu? I installed compiz and the config manager, but it doesn't seem to be making a difference when I select Wobbly Windows
[17:49] <xrandr> never mind, it is now happily working :P
[17:49] <OerHeks> wobbly windows is part of compiz plugins extra iirc
[17:50] <sumit_> hi
[17:50] <sumit_> could some one help me in setup VPNC
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> VaultBoy  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23955635/ ... paste the output here and give us the new link ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:50] <sumit_> trying to use "password helper" feature
[17:50] <sumit_> but getting some input/output error
[17:52] <sumit_> anyone here vpn expert?
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> sumit_  ask your question and wait
[17:53] <sumit_> ok thnaks @MonkeyDust
[17:53] <VaultBoy> MonkeyDust, I fixed it by doing a reinstall
[17:56] <MrOpenSource> does someone know a good vpn client for linux ??
[17:57] <ducasse> MrOpenSource: you need to use whatever works with the server
[17:57] <OerHeks> VPN is build into the networkmanager, easy to setup
[17:58] <CrazyTux> where can I find web cam settings in Xubuntu?
[18:03] <mixxit> is this the xubuntu support channel
[18:03] <mixxit> or should i go elsewhere
[18:03] <nacc> mixxit: yes, xubuntu is a supported flavor
[18:04] <mixxit> my youtube videos are stuttering after a fresh install
[18:05] <longerstaff13> mixxit: Try getting the YouTube Unity Webapp from Synaptic.
[18:05] <mixxit> 214mb of files
[18:05] <mixxit> grabbing now
[18:05] <longerstaff13> Sounds OK.
[18:05] <longerstaff13> OK.
[18:06] <OerHeks> mixxit, sounds more like a videodriver issue
[18:06] <cyberspectre> Is it no longer possible to connect to DAV through nautilus?
[18:08] <mixxit> still kinda stuttering
[18:09] <ioria> cyberspectre, you mean this  https://alwaystinkering.wordpress.com/2016/04/09/using-nautilus-in-ubuntu-14-04-and-16-04-as-a-box-client/  ?
[18:09] <OerHeks> mixxit, on what videocard? lspci | grep VGA # should give a line with details
[18:09] <mixxit> gk104 gtx 760
[18:10] <OerHeks> mixxit, did you visit the 'driver' tool? type driver in dash and the tool should show up
[18:10] <mixxit> checking now thanks
[18:10] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:10] <mixxit> the device is using an alternative driver (xorg x server)
[18:11] <mixxit> also unknown device microcode for intel
[18:11] <mixxit> not using that device
[18:11] <OerHeks> no nvidia driver visible there?
[18:11] <mixxit> yeah there is two
[18:12] <OerHeks> select it, and wait for the download/install to finish
[18:12] <mixxit> 367.57 and 340.101
[18:12] <OerHeks> choose 367
[18:12] <mixxit> applying now
[18:12] <OerHeks> no need to reboot after that :-)
[18:12] <mixxit> great!
[18:12] <OerHeks> restart browser and let us know
[18:15] <sumit_> @OerHeks do you know about vpnc (vpn client for cisco)
[18:16] <mixxit> still kinda jumpy
[18:16] <mixxit> it says i need to restart to apply driver changes
[18:16] <mixxit> shall i give that a go?
[18:18] <mixxit> ill try brb
[18:19] <krizoek> my computer was normally over 40C, and i installed a nvidia gtx 980 a couple days ago. and now the temperature barely goes over 30C even if i use the cpu more than normal. using the builtin gpu inside a intel 6700K seems to release allot of heat in comparison. im happy with good results. (quiet pc) :)  is there much opensource software that use GPU accelerators now days?
[18:20] <MrOpenSource> fml i do not find a good free vpn service :(
[18:20] <cyberspectre> ioria, thank you
[18:20] <cyberspectre> :)
[18:20] <cyberspectre> The character encoding was the problem
[18:20] <ioria> cyberspectre, no prob
[18:20] <lafleurdubien> the sourceforge page for uck says "PRODUCT DISCOUNTINED". are there any alternatives?
[18:22] <OerHeks> uck is dead? no more i-want-my-custom-ubuntu-questions \0/
[18:24] <krizoek> MrOpenSource, what about vpncoin or something?
[18:24] <krizoek> or thor
[18:24] <mixxit> still jumping in youtube videos
[18:24] <krizoek> i have a router that can use thor
[18:24] <anddam> enabling System Settings > Mouse & Touchpad > Two finger scroll checkbox results in two kinds of gestures recognized for scrolling, one where you move the two fingers togheter and the other where you keep a finger fixed and move the other one. Is it possible to have the former while disabling the latter?
[18:24] <mixxit> its kinda like screen tearing
[18:24] <anddam> krizoek: the god of thunder?
[18:25] <krizoek> who knows, whatever that is anddam :)
[18:26] <anddam> Thor is
[18:27] <OerHeks> good *and* free vpn service is a contradiction.
[18:28] <krizoek> what is a good vpn technology?
[18:29] <krizoek> i heard that things like NSA can see through pptp
[18:29] <krizoek> and l2tp as well perhaps
[18:29] <countingdaisies> I'm looking for a foss program that I can install on ubuntu 16.04 and I was hoping someone could help direct me to some options? I've been interested in scientific research (physics mainly) for quite some time and have gathered information for nearly a decade now. I need a good, robust tool (software) that will allow me to easily organize information into multiple disciplines (eg: chemistry,...
[18:29] <countingdaisies> ...physics, etc) as well as topics (eg: history, famous scientist, scientific discovery, experiments, etc) and to easily link / cross link  (by whatever means) the individual datum as needed.
[18:29] <countingdaisies> Sorry, I'm wordy
[18:30] <countingdaisies> Also easily retrieve and edit (of course).
[18:30] <countingdaisies> any ideas?
[18:30] <krizoek> wiki?
[18:30] <OerHeks> krizoek, if NSA told you that, it is true .. also offtopic
[18:31] <mcphail> countingdaisies: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki would be the obvious choice
[18:31] <keith_beebop> is uck for Live CD only or can I build an install with it?
[18:32] <krizoek> is ubuntu about security? i have wondered about the packages. are they ever checked by others?
[18:32] <krizoek> recompiled and checked with things like checksums
[18:32] <countingdaisies> krizoek: I'll check that out.  mcphail : I tried to find a free wiki I think you just directed me to what I was having trouble finding before.
[18:32] <countingdaisies> maybe
[18:33] <cyberspectre> Why is every service moving to webDAV when it seems to always be several times slower than FTP?
[18:33] <jatt> countingdaisies: emacs org-mode: http://orgmode.org/
[18:33] <keith_beebop> probly security
[18:34] <mcphail> countingdaisies: you may want to use something more lightweight for a personal project, of course
[18:34] <countingdaisies> jatt: neat
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> countingdaisies  you want to create some kind of wiki? if so, try 'zim'
[18:34] <countingdaisies> mcphail: good to check out
[18:35] <jatt> countingdaisies: here you find examples on how org-mode can be used for scientific research: http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/08/08/What-we-are-using-org-mode-for/
[18:35] <clissold345> anddam: this might help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[18:35] <krizoek> MonkeyDust, can dust be exported to web?
[18:35] <krizoek> can zim i mean
[18:35] <keith_beebop> Anyone is UCK for Live CD only or can I build an instsall
[18:36] <keith_beebop> what the hell
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> krizoek  i Zim: 'tools > create web server' ... looks like a Yes
[18:36] <countingdaisies> mcphail: my biggest problem is organization (bit mess of documents I can hardly find what I need when I go back to). I thought if I could automate organization somehow (through settings or something) that I'd be ok. Having to repeat the same procedure for every new piece of data cause many catastrophic failures on my part (I can't do it)
[18:36] <krizoek> countingdaisies, http://alternativeto.net/software/mediawiki/ i think the most votes goes to tiddlywiki and dokuwiki
[18:36] <krizoek> cool MonkeyDust
[18:37] <krizoek> so zim is just a web browser then in general?
[18:37] <countingdaisies> jatt: nice
[18:37] <GlemSom> I have a raid5 with mdadm - using partition from 3 SSD's that accordingly to hdparm all support TRIM... how-ever, when I run fstirm -v /   I get this error: "fstrim: /: the discard operation is not supported"... How can I get TRIM to work when using mdadm? (note i HAVE added the discard option i fstab, but that didn't change anything)
[18:37] <keith_beebop> whats all this connection stuff
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> krizoek  o, zim a local note taking app, that can link notes to each other, thus creating a wiki
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> no*
[18:38] <krizoek> ok
[18:38] <mcphail> countingdaisies: nothing is going to be set up exactly for your unique needs. You're going to have to do work (or pay someone else to do it)
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> !fo zim
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> !info zim
[18:41] <krizoek> zim seems great
[18:42] <miczac> Hi, I just rendered my main system unbootable: I booted from the old recovery system (Ubuntu 14.04) from USB and installed it to another USB stick. I think the mistake was to name /dev/sda1 for booting from. 14.04 is fine, the built-in file system seems to be there, but I can't boot from it. removing all usb and booting puts the laptop into grub cmd-line.
[18:42] <krizoek> is there like visual editors in it?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> visual editors?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> as in?
[18:44] <krizoek> for making diagrams and such
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> krizoek  no, it's not that advanced
[18:44] <keith_beebop> QUESTION is UCK only for Live CD or can I build an insall with it?
[18:45] <krizoek> ahh, they should have teamed up with freemind
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> krizoek  it creates .txt files
[18:45] <krizoek> ok
[18:47] <keith_beebop> wooops got disconnected
[18:47] <keith_beebop> think my UPS needs new battery
[18:49] <keith_beebop> can someone tell me if UCK is for Live CD only or can I build an install with it?
[18:50] <ducasse> !patience | keith_beebop
[18:50] <keith_beebop> k thanks
[18:51] <spaceninja> hi, why isn't there any wifi support? Do I have to manually install the package?  Maybe due to the fact that the os using a alternative driver?
[18:51] <cyberspectre> Does anyone know of a text editor for Ubuntu that can access a DAV server? Atom freezes, Sublime freezes, and Visual Studio throws an error
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | spaceninja start here
[18:51] <keith_beebop> didn'know if my connection problem whasserver related or what was up  thanks
[18:53] <dork> cyberspectre: mount the DAV locally with davfs and use your editor/IDE of choice?
[18:53] <kevinde> .
[18:55] <newbieee> .
[18:57] <newbieee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23955913/
[18:57] <divyanshumehta_> #osem
[18:58] <newbieee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23955913/ How to mount this partition?
[18:58] <hacker> hi
[18:59] <Guest52123> hi
[19:00] <Bashing-om> newbieee: Should automount in the GUI .. what is your end goal here ?
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[19:01] <newbieee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23955935/
[19:01] <newbieee> check type Bashing-om
[19:04] <Citizen_> Hi. The release date of Ubuntu 16.04.2 is tomorrow, but the instructions to upgrade the HWE are already post:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack   .Should I wait for tomorrow or its ok to upgrade today? (One day before than official release)
[19:04] <Citizen_> The command is: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[19:05] <Bashing-om> newbieee: Be aware " If the code is FFFF, that means that gdisk doesn't recognize what it is, which in turn means it's probably something manufacturer-specific."
[19:05] <nacc> Citizen_: it's not yet publisehd (only in proposed). wait til the release.
[19:05] <Citizen_> nacc: ok thank you! :)
[19:08] <Bashing-om> newbieee: For GPT partitoning the tool to use is gdisk .
[19:09] <jhutchins> https://github.com/jimradford/superputty <- great tool if you manage multiple *nix from Windows.  Simultaneous commands to multiple ssh sessions.
[19:14] <Ntemis> hi
[19:14] <squeakytoy> lets say you own linux.com, where would be the best place to sell it so i can retire in the bahamas?
[19:14] <ducasse> !ot | squeakytoy
[19:15] <squeakytoy> :(
[19:15] <Ntemis> i want to mount a /media/hddfordata to two home dirs like /home/mine /home/hers how i do that?
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> Ntemis  i guess bind can do that
[19:15] <Ntemis> will this work?
[19:15] <nacc> Ntemis: why do you want to do that?
[19:16] <Ntemis> ls -s /media/hddfordata /home/mine
[19:16] <Ntemis> ls -s /media/hddfordata /home/hers
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> Ntemis  'mount --bind
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> Ntemis  'mount --bind'
[19:16] <Ntemis> hdd is mounted with UUID by fstab
[19:17] <nacc> Ntemis: i assume you mean `ln` not `ls`, and while that might work, I would not recommend it (it's also rather odd for two users to share the same home directory)
[19:17] <Ntemis> its the hdd we want to share not home
[19:18] <nacc> Ntemis: you're putting the same hdd in two home directories, per your question
[19:18] <Ntemis> yes i am
[19:18] <nacc> s/in/as/
[19:18] <Ntemis> so anyway to do it from fstab?
[19:18] <nacc> Ntemis: if what you just said is actually true, then mount it twice
[19:18] <Ntemis> auto mount for both users
[19:18] <nacc> mount to /home/mine/path and /home/hers/path
[19:18] <Ntemis> in fstab?
[19:18] <nacc> that makes way more sense then mounting to /home/mine and /home/hers, imo
[19:19] <Ntemis> yes i prefer do it with fstab is more clean
[19:19] <nacc> Ntemis: but if all you're doing is sharing the data, why not leave it in /media/hddfordata and correct the permissions
[19:19] <divyanshumehta> \quit
[19:20] <anddam> clissold345: it might, thanks
[19:20] <Ntemis> because we work on it remotely with ssh and is convenient to have it in our home folders
[19:20] <nacc> that's rather silly, but ok
[19:20] <nacc> then yes, you can just use a symlink from each of your home directories to /media/path
[19:20] <Ntemis> for ext4 defaults 0 2 sounds ok?
[19:21] <Ntemis> i will do it in fstab
[19:21] <nacc> but the point i was trying to make is you absolutely (imo) should *not* make the target of that symlink /home/mine or /home/hers
[19:21] <nacc> as those are *both* your home directories and it makes no sense to share your actual home directory
[19:21] <Ntemis> no i was referring to the folder
[19:21] <Ntemis> i get your meaning
[19:21] <Ntemis> will be inside a name for the mount point as well
[19:22] <Ntemis> /home/mine/data /home/hers/data
[19:22] <Ntemis> something like that
[19:22] <Ntemis> will we have any permission issues?
[19:23] <nacc> Ntemis: so what you're describing now is different than your origianl question -- mounting the disk again doesn't seem necessary in this new question
[19:23] <nacc> Ntemis: and the symlink (since it's purely for convenience if you both can already read the currently mounted disk), is the simpler choice
[19:24] <nickamg> Hello
[19:24] <Ntemis> nacc: so can you please explane to me the right steps for this?
[19:25] <nickamg> I'm having some issues install Ubuntu
[19:25] <nacc> Ntemis: can both 'mine' and 'hers' access /media/hddfordata currently?
[19:25] <nickamg> My caps lock flashes when I try to run the live USB
[19:26] <nickamg> black screen
[19:26] <Ntemis> nacc: lets start from beginning
[19:26] <Ntemis> i have a hdd sda in /dev/sad
[19:26] <Ntemis> *sda
[19:26] <k1l> nickamg: that means kernel panic. does the usb work on other laptops/pcs?
[19:26] <nickamg> yes
[19:26] <k1l> nickamg: is that special hardware?
[19:26] <Ntemis> i want that hdd be mounted in two places /home/min/something /home/hers/something
[19:27] <Ntemis> *mine
[19:27] <nacc> Ntemis: do you actually wanted it to be mounted two places? or just visible two places?
[19:27] <nickamg> no don't think so? It's a HP Envy with a AMD cpu and shared graphics
[19:27] <Ntemis> and i want no permission issues over each other
[19:27] <spaceninja> !wifi
[19:27] <nacc> Ntemis: and is it currently mounted anywhere?
[19:27] <Ntemis> no
[19:27] <Ntemis> i didnt mount it in fstab yet
[19:27] <nacc> Ntemis: well, you're going to have permission issues, potentially, since your creating files as two different users
[19:27] <Ntemis> is unmounted atm
[19:27] <Ntemis> i dont wan that
[19:27] <nickamg> I do have an SSD
[19:28] <nickamg> not sure if that's considered special
[19:28] <nacc> Ntemis: you don't want what?
[19:28] <nacc> !who | Ntemis
[19:28] <Ntemis> i want to be able to erase files as she also erase mine
[19:29] <nacc> Ntemis: that's a different question, honestly -- as you can't do that now anyways
[19:30] <Ntemis> nacc: cant do what
[19:32] <Ntemis> nacc: how i about i do this : mount /dev/sda1 /home/mine/datahdd
[19:32] <Ntemis> nacc: and then ln -s /home/mine/datahdd /home/hers/datahdd
[19:32] <Ntemis> will this be ok?
[19:33] <RickJames> you should be able to seperate the two commands with && and have them both run consecutivly ?
[19:33] <plorph> hi, I'm having trouble figuring this out. For some reason ubuntu is setting a bunch of .png files as executable in the /var/lib/app-info/icons/... folder in various subfolders such as ubuntu-xenial-updates-universe/64x64.. does anyone know why and how I can prevent it doing that?
[19:34] <Ntemis> RickJames: like?
[19:34] <RickJames> command one && command two
[19:34] <ducasse> Ntemis: RickJames not important here, as the symlink is only created once and the fs is automounted
[19:34] <Ntemis> but i use fstab to mount hdd
[19:34] <mixxit> && makes them run in parallel?
[19:34] <k1l> RickJames: that means: run comman1 and then command2 if command1 was succesful
[19:34] <mixxit> oh
[19:34] <k1l> mixxit: no
[19:35] <RickJames> ouch. not important. i'll go back to reading
[19:36] <Ntemis> so will this be ok?
[19:42] <james1138> Hello to all. I seek help finding any kind of Linux software/database (prefer Ubuntu) related to Herbs and/or Alternative Medicine. Any suggestions on where to look??
[19:43] <k1l> james1138: i dont think that is linux or ubuntu related.
[19:44] <nacc> Ntemis: without other configuration, you can't delete files created by her and v.v.
[19:44] <james1138> ok... never mind
[19:44] <countingdaisies> much appreciated. - ty
[19:45] <Ntemis> how about i mount it from fstab with umask=00
[19:45] <nacc> Ntemis: i think it's better (clearer) to do mount /dev/sda1 (should really be by UUID) /media/somewhere and then symlink that to both user's home directories
[19:45] <Ntemis> with permission issue? what need to be done?
[19:47] <nacc> Ntemis: i don't think umask=00 is advised
[19:47] <Ntemis> why? will give full rw access
[19:47] <Ntemis> i want no permission issues
[19:48] <nacc> Ntemis: i believe the only way you'd get it to work is to add both users to a group and then set the umask to allow g+rw
[19:48] <nacc> Ntemis: yes, to any users, not just your two
[19:48] <Ntemis> i want to mv cp rm onthefly
[19:48] <nacc> Ntemis: if you don't specify the problem fully and clearly, it's hard to help
[19:48] <nacc> Ntemis: you never said those two users were the only two, for instance
[19:48] <Ntemis> yes they are
[19:48] <helpmehplz> Hi, i removed dpkg by accident now i get Could not exec dpkg! E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100) everytime i try to install it i have downloadedit from the website and extracted it but it still dosen't work
[19:49] <Ntemis> nacc: is a server
[19:49] <nacc> helpmehplz: how in the world would you remove dpkg 'by accident'?
[19:49] <bruce_> hello there!
[19:49] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get purge myself
[19:49] <OerHeks> helpmehplz, time to reinstall
[19:49] <Ntemis> maybe?
[19:50] <Ntemis> helpmehplz:do a  sudo apt-get purge ubuntu
[19:50] <nacc> Ntemis: what!?
[19:50] <OerHeks> one needs dpkg to remove dpkg, so tell us
[19:50] <bruce_> someone where i found some plymouth progress bar working from 0 to 100%
[19:50] <nacc> Ntemis: please stop giving bad advice.
[19:50] <bruce_> ?
[19:50] <Ntemis> nacc: am joking
[19:50] <nacc> Ntemis: it's not funny. and you're in the support channel.
[19:50] <Ntemis> ok sorry :p
[19:50] <Ntemis> helpmehplz:do a  sudo apt-get purge nacc
[19:51] <OerHeks> Ntemis, as funny as you mount issue for 2 users
[19:51] <nacc> Ntemis: ok, i'm done helping you, good luck with your problem.
[19:51] <Ntemis> hey man take it easy
[19:51] <helpmehplz> E: Unable to locate package ubuntu
[19:51] <nickamg> right how do I execute a command before booting, I need to paste this some command somewhere - acpi_no_static_ssdt
[19:51] <nacc> helpmehplz: do *not* run those commands suggested by Ntemis
[19:51] <Ntemis> i concur
[19:52] <Ntemis> helpmehplz: sorry man i was teasing you
[19:52] <helpmehplz> any idea how i solve this ?
[19:52] <OerHeks> nickamg, "execute a command before booting"?? you want acpi_no_static_ssdt as an bootline option?
[19:53] <Ntemis> ok am gonna join debian channel, maybe they have some more sense of humor
[19:53] <Ntemis> :p
[19:53] <helpmehplz> install gentoo
[19:53] <Ntemis> what?
[19:53] <nickamg> i found a fix for my problem, i'm just too much a noob to know where to use it?
[19:54] <OerHeks> nickamg, hold shift @ boot, predd e to edit, and add that to the bootline, see !grub
[19:54] <OerHeks> !grub
[19:54] <OerHeks> c/predd/press
[19:54] <VaultyTowers> I need help my I keep getting dummy output even though I have an external speaker connected
[19:54] <Ntemis> helpmehplz: find the binary file and put it in your path then execute the command dpkg -i "dpkg"
[19:55] <Ntemis> from a deb file
[19:55] <solid> hi
[19:55] <Ntemis> done
[19:56] <helpmehplz> i already dpkg_1.16.1.2ubuntu7.2.tar.bz2 extracted ??
[19:56] <Ntemis> ho solid
[19:56] <Ntemis> you need a deb file
[19:57] <Ntemis> is that source file or binary file?
[19:57] <OerHeks> please ignore Ntemis, you need dpkg to install dpkg, running round > reinstall ubuntu
[19:57] <helpmehplz> base-files_9.4ubuntu4.3_amd64.deb
[19:57] <helpmehplz> ffs i didn't want to reinstall and loose all my stuff
[19:57] <solid> hi
[19:58] <Ntemis> i will sent you mine then make it exec and run ./dpkg -i base-files_9.4ubuntu4.3_amd64.deb
[19:58] <solid> guyz who can help me with an errno 8
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> solid  context?
[19:59] <solid> selenium trying to run pHANTOMEjs KEEPS GIVING ME WebDriverException: Message: Unable to start phantomjs with ghostdriver: [Errno 8] Exec format error
[19:59] <solid> same scrip on mac os wortks flawlesly
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> !find selenium
[20:00] <helpmehplz> exec cat
[20:00] <VaultyTowers> I keep getting stupid dummy output
[20:00] <Ntemis> helpmehplz: is not a binary
[20:00] <Ntemis> its script based
[20:01] <helpmehplz> just end me :(
[20:01] <Ntemis> lol
[20:01] <helpmehplz> >should of installed fedora instead
[20:01] <solid> MonkeyDust what do you mean !find selenium?
[20:01] <nickamg> tried adding acpi_no_static_ssdt said command not recognised?
[20:02] <nickamg> must have done something wrong
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> solid  looks like you're in the wrong channel
[20:02] <solid> there is a selenium chanel ? sorry first time using the chat
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> solid  type   /j #selenium   <- 140+ people there
[20:02] <Ntemis> hmm
[20:03] <Ntemis> what about snap?
[20:03] <Ntemis> can he install package through snap guys?
[20:03] <solid> will do thakns monkeydust
[20:03] <solid>  /j #selenium
[20:04] <numnum> whare do i find help with metasploint:
[20:06] <VaultyTowers> MonkeyDust, can you help me once more
[20:08] <jaith> I've got Ubuntu 16 on an Amazon EC2 instance. Every time I executve a sudo command, I get a "unable to resolve host xyz" error - and a notification email is generated. I want to stop this error and set a permanent host name, but AWS seems to reset my hostnames sometimes and I can't figure out when
[20:09] <jaith> can someone help me solve this problem?
[20:11] <ioria> jaith, this can help : https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/linux-static-hostname/
[20:11] <ioria> ?
[20:12] <VaultyTowers> ug why am I always stuck waiting
[20:13] <ruben_12> hi
[20:14] <noimnotninevolt> greetings.
[20:16] <jaith> ioria: thank you! question: WHY does EC2 change the hostname on reboot? Alternatively, WHY does canonical not configure their AMIs to deal with this problem?
[20:17] <ioria> jaith, above my head, sy
[20:17] <jaith> ioria: thank you
[20:17] <ioria> jaith, maybe ask Gandalf
[20:17] <ioria> jaith, no prob
[20:19] <k1l> jaith: did you ask the amazon support about that? usually on vserver instances such files get reset on reboot and only the hoster can change that
[20:20] <jaith> k1l: Amazon support BAHAHAHAHAHAHA cough cough cough
[20:20] <ioria> lol
[20:20] <jaith> k1l: but seriously, is there any such thing as amazon suppor?
[20:21] <k1l> jaith: well, you run your servers there. dont ask me :)
[20:22] <jaith> k1l: i have only myself to blame
[20:23] <ioria> if someone is interested, i made a unity-panel-indicator-server that will listen for input user events;can display text, cmd and script outputs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23956198/
[20:24] <Zew> Question; When I login to my Ubuntu server via SSH, it states
[20:24] <Zew> 335 packages can be updated.
[20:24] <Zew> 132 updates are security updates.
[20:24] <Zew> do I have to run something to install these? such as sudo apt-get upgrade or update?
[20:25] <k1l> Zew: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:25] <Zew> thank you
[20:26] <k1l> apt update to get a fresh list of updated packages, apt full-upgrade to install those updated pacakges
[20:26] <Zew> thank you so much
[20:27] <Zew> AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors.
[20:27] <Zew> I'm assuming this isn't a concern
[20:29] <jaith> Zew: you should keep your packages up-to-date because your machine will be more secure. However, updating packages can occasionally break things
[20:30] <jaith> Zew: I cant comment specifically on 'ignored due to some errors' but my guess is that the package maintainers know more about this than you or I
[20:30] <k1l> Zew: can you copy the output to paste.ubuntu.com and link it here?
[20:31] <Zew> meh, I'll let it update, reboot and see if the two main services I setup are stil functional
[20:31] <Zew> I created a snapshot this time
[20:31] <Zew> so I should be ok to revert if it breaks
[20:31] <Zew> thanks guys!
[20:31] <jaith> Zew: good plan
[20:32] <ioria> Zew, 16.04 ?
[20:33] <Some_Bloke> Hopefully someone can help me with a strange issue that occurs using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Currently install on an old Macboo 13 inch from 2008.
[20:34] <Some_Bloke> When ever I close the lid and allow the laptop to suspend after a few minutes. When I try to wake it up, I'm unable to enter a password, even though i can move the mouse around. Can't click on anything though.
[20:35] <hhee> guys,how can i configure unity music tab, to search for mp3 files on external hdd drive?
[20:35] <hhee> i mean dash
[20:36] <VaultyTowers> Some_Bloke, its the light locker crap isnt it?
[20:37] <VaultyTowers> hhee, why not copy the few files over?
[20:37] <Zew> ioria: yeah
[20:37] <k1l> !macbook
[20:37] <Zew> 16.04.1
[20:37] <hhee> VaultyTowers, copy to local drive where OS installed in home dir?
[20:37] <k1l> Some_Bloke: see the bots link ^
[20:38] <Zew> 33% and claimbing
[20:38] <k1l> Some_Bloke: mac hardware could need some special treatment to work
[20:38] <VaultyTowers> hhee, copy the .mp3 onto the HDD that its set to search on
[20:38] <Zew> climbing
[20:38] <ioria> Zew, i thin it's a bug fixed in backports https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1644498
[20:38] <VaultyTowers> unless this is a spacial issue, but mine generally search through my partitions anywayd
[20:38] <hhee> VaultyTowers, how can i set dash to search on external hdd?
[20:38] <hhee> :)
[20:39] <Zew> neat thanks
[20:39] <VaultyTowers> tbh I havent used dash yet but are you able to go to parent folders?
[20:39] <Some_Bloke> Alright, I'll take a look.
[20:39] <Zew> hhee: using the find command?
[20:42] <VaultyTowers> btw noone should bother helping me I fixed my issue
[20:42] <Zew> wasn't planing on it :P
[20:43] <VaultyTowers> zew you probably dont even know what the issue even was
[20:43] <Zew> nope hahahha
[20:44] <hhee> Zew, dunno. :) does find command create index files?
[20:44] <Zew> nope just a search command
[20:44] <VaultyTowers> either way i dont need help so ciao folks and peanut brittles
[20:45]  * Zew is not alergic to peanuts
[20:45] <Zew> hhee: you trying to build a media index?
[20:46] <Zew> I've only ever really used Kodi or such things
[20:46] <Zew> for*
[20:46] <Zew> heard a lot of good things about Plex
[20:46] <Ownz> Plex is great
[20:47] <Zew> :)
[20:47] <Zew> see
[20:47] <Zew> hahaha
[20:47] <Ownz> I don't know what you all were talking about plex for. I just joined, but I owuld be glad to answer any questions. I have been using it for a long time.
[20:48] <Some_Bloke> Nothing in the bot describe my issue. Guess I turn off request password after waking from suspend
[20:48] <hhee> well, i opened the dash. and see "There is no music available on this computer" and it's true, because my music on EXTERNAL drive. how can i create index from there? is it real?\
[20:48] <elias_a> Any information about how to tackle this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/676413
[20:49] <Ownz> hhee: are you talking about in plex?
[20:49] <elias_a> Cannot believe that has been unfixed for so long...
[20:51] <k1l> elias_a: comment 22
[20:52] <promet> I run 16.04 on an encrypted volume. I've run out of space on this volume. disk usage manager (baobab) only reports ecryptfs files, rather than filenames. Does anyone know of a way to identify and clean an encryptfs volume?
[20:52] <k1l> elias_a: most times resume issues are issues from the mainboard which doesnt bring up hardware fast enough
[20:53] <gamester> I'm using the nvidia binary driver, as shown in "Software & Updates" but I feel like it's been the same 367 version for a long time. Where is this driver coming from, when is a new one released?
[20:54] <k1l> gamester: its not going to be changed (often). ubuntu uses a stable release model
[20:55] <elias_a> k1l: So i should run echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online gor all cores?
[20:56] <k1l> elias_a: please read the comments and the linked forums thread which explain that workaround
[20:56] <elias_a> k1l: Ok. Thanks!
[20:56] <k1l> elias_a: and i am not sure if that is still an issue on modern kernels
[20:57] <ioria> promet, what you mean with 'clean an encrypted volume' ?
[20:58] <wwwi> hello
[21:00] <wwwi> when a desktop text editor loads a file, that file is loaded from disk into memory, right? so, file is actually, opened for reading, but then once in memory, is closed? then, you change the text, and when you save, file is again opened, saved and then closed again?
[21:01] <elias_a> k1l: Well the symptoms are exactly the same.
[21:02] <ppf> wwwi: sometime yes, sometimes no
[21:02] <ppf> e.g., most editors won't load large file entirely
[21:02] <Zew> updates completed... rebooting now
[21:03] <Zew> wwwi: No there should be a lock on the file while its open by a set application
[21:03] <ppf> Zew: no, there is no such thing
[21:03] <Zew> this is my understanding of it
[21:03] <k1l> wwwi: some text editors do make .swp files to autosafe the changes made
[21:03] <ppf> Zew: in linux there is no way to lock a file
[21:03] <Zew> diff between windows n linux, windows locks the file
[21:04] <k1l> Zew: no, just on the package management is a lock file. not on regular files
[21:04] <k1l> you can open a file with serveral programs at the same time
[21:04] <wwwi> so, if you kill text editor with an opened saved file, you risk that you will corrupt the file, but risk is extremely small?
[21:04] <ppf> wwwi: yes, the risk is small
[21:05] <k1l> wwwi: too theoretically. what is the issue?
[21:05] <Zew> my question would be whats teh foundation, linux on hardware directly, or is it on a VM
[21:05] <wwwi> k1l: just trying to figure if i corrupted a file today, but it seems fine
[21:06] <Zew> if you have a concern of courption, at least for testing, maybe use snapshots if its on a VM, of storage snapshots even better. but on direct hardware...
[21:06] <Zew> unno copy teh file
[21:07] <wwwi> k1l: mostly, i thought about this and wanted to learn more
[21:07] <ash_workz> why would I be able to do man pg_ctl but using pg_ctl says command not found?
[21:07] <Zew> thats always good
[21:07] <Zew> cause theres a man page, but your path doesn't include the path to the bin?
[21:07] <wwwi> Zew: if you copy the open saved file somewhere, before killing the text editor with the open saved file, the copied file should be fine?
[21:07] <ppf> yes
[21:08] <ppf> most text editors actually do that for you
[21:08] <Zew> ^
[21:08] <k1l> ash_workz: not all commands match the same man page names. sometimes there is a manpage but the command is included in a program and not a single command
[21:08] <Zew> figured the command would only be in that programs man page then
[21:08] <wwwi> ppf i assumed that yes was the answer to my final questions? also i didnt get that about the text editors that do this for me, could you elaborate a little?
[21:09] <k1l> ash_workz: how did you install postgresql?
[21:09] <ppf> most text editors create a backup when you open a file
[21:09] <ash_workz> apt-get
[21:09] <Zew> k1l: he actually did, you just may have missed it
[21:09] <k1l> ash_workz: seems like on ubuntu/debian one uses pg_ctlcluster instead
[21:10] <Zew> 15:03 < k1l> wwwi: some text editors do make .swp files to autosafe the changes made
[21:10] <ppf> wwwi: e.g. vim creates a .swp file, emacs or gedit create a file with a ~ in the name
[21:10] <wwwi> ppf so, if i compare the md5hashes of copied file and actual file, after i killed the editor with the actual file and the hashes are the same, it means that actual file is not corrupt, right?
[21:10] <ppf> most likely
[21:10] <Zew> yes
[21:11] <k1l> if the hash is the same, its the same
[21:11] <Zew> chances of a collision are small even with MD5, but SHA1 would be better
[21:11] <ppf> if you open the file again, you'll get a new backup, though, keep that in mind
[21:12] <Zew> well if the swp file still exists it'll ask you about it
[21:12] <wwwi> md5hash command is safe to run on files, right? it wont corrupt them? i've read on stackoverflow some advice, that seems a little weird, it said, if your second file is on usb stick, first unmount the usb stick, remove it, then plug it in back and then run md5hash on it
[21:12] <ppf> vim will, yes. gedit won't, i think
[21:12] <Zew> doing a hash sum doesn't change the file
[21:13] <Zew> it just reads it, and generate a hash
[21:13] <ppf> opening it in the editor is what i'm talking about
[21:13] <k1l> ash_workz: but you better use sudo service postgresql start/stop/restart/reload...
[21:13] <Zew> Yyyeeeee ha, ubuntu updates, my primary servers still working
[21:13] <Zew> great successs
[21:14] <Zew> services*
[21:14] <k1l> Zew: the updates get automated testings since some time. so if one sticks to the standard setup the udpates will work
[21:14] <wwwi> obviously, the command for sha1 hashes also doesnt change a file, right?
[21:14] <Zew> Yeah
[21:14] <Zew> yes
[21:14] <k1l> wwwi: that is the point of checksum. if it would change it, one would never compare 2 files and find matching ones
[21:15] <Zew> All hashing works gernerally the same, just a different algo is used to dtermine the chance of a collisin
[21:15] <wtfred> hi, i have been running ubuntu from a live usb stick for 2 months, because I was waiting for a samsung ssd pro 512 Vnand, not the sataIII connected. Do you know why samsungs 960s are so difficult to get?
[21:15] <Zew> but generally its read the file -> generate hash based on teh algo
[21:15] <wtfred> I mean, I bought one and the store now says they dont have the unit on store
[21:15] <k1l> wtfred: i would say: ask samsung why they cant deliver :)
[21:15] <Zew> algo being either MD5 or SHA1
[21:16] <wwwi> so, there is like 1 in a billion chance that the hash of the copied file and the hash of the "possibly corrupt" original file are the same, even though the second file is different? that's for the unlike scenario that the actual file is corrupt
[21:17] <Zew> yes
[21:17] <noimnotninevolt> no, much less than 1 in a billion.
[21:17] <wtfred> if I buy a samsung 860, is that too slow for a virtualization? the virtualization will be connected to internet
[21:17] <Zew> noimnotninevolt: depends on teh algo
[21:18] <tomreyn> wtfred: this is #ubuntu, not ##hardware
[21:18] <noimnotninevolt> indeed it does. but which is <30 bit?
[21:19] <k1l> wtfred: you wont feel a difference
[21:19] <ppf> wwwi: your file is alright.
[21:20] <wtfred> ok... k1l do you know somebody who owns a samsung 960 pro?
[21:20] <wwwi> Zew the algo is md5 pr sha1 or something else?
[21:20] <noimnotninevolt> even crc32 is less than 1 in a billion likelihood of collision.
[21:20] <k1l> wtfred: i dont see how this is ubuntu related.
[21:20] <Zew> whatever you want to use
[21:20] <Zew> MD5 should suit your needs
[21:21] <promet> ioria, I mean removing large files to free up space
[21:21] <Zew> MD5 collision rate 2ex(-64)
[21:21] <promet> Normally I would do this with baobab, but it can't interpret the ecryptfs data
[21:21] <noimnotninevolt> which is less than one in a billion-billion :P
[21:22] <Zew> :)
[21:22] <MrOpenSource> hello
[21:22] <noimnotninevolt> and md5 is considered weak. i don't know of any weaker hashes than md5 that are in common use.
[21:22] <Zew> yeap
[21:22] <Zew> but for a simple file
[21:22] <Zew> generally does ok
[21:22] <MrOpenSource> I have a question, I wanna play music with Rythmbox music player, but i get this error Didn't get a playback URI for entry file:///home/jan/Music/Musik/New/Dark%20-%20Enough.mp3
[21:23] <Zew> https://askubuntu.com/questions/617816/rhythmbox-doesnt-add-import-mp3s-from-music-on-ubuntu-gnome-15-04
[21:23] <Zew> two different fourm posts, same answer
[21:24] <k1l> MrOpenSource: "mv ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml.bak"
[21:25] <k1l> MrOpenSource: your music database seems corrupted. maybe you moved the files
[21:25] <wwwi> thank you all
[21:25] <Zew> np
[21:27] <asheron> l
[21:40] <auvajs> hi, I need a terminal command to 1) login as some user 2) start screen 3) start some program inside screen.. any help?
[21:40] <t0day> hello
[21:41] <Zew> googles?
[21:41] <ppf> auvajs: sudo -u User screen program
[21:41] <k1l> auvajs: 1) sudo 2) screen 3) some_program
[21:41] <k1l> just put them together as ppf showed :)
[21:42] <auvajs> ppf: k1l I get Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check.
[21:42] <k1l> auvajs: is that user able to login?
[21:42] <auvajs> k1l: no idea
[21:43] <auvajs> k1l: but doing only su user works
[21:43] <auvajs> k1l: but after that I need to do script /dev/null.. actually I dont know what that means, lol
[21:43] <k1l> auvajs: ok, that can already have made a mess with that users file permissions
[21:44] <auvajs> k1l: how can I find out the permissions please?
[21:44] <k1l> auvajs: try sudo -H -u user ..
[21:46] <auvajs> k1l: that doesn't work, I get list of sudo commands
[21:46] <k1l> auvajs: capital H? (linux is case sensitive)
[21:47] <krizoek> is ubuntu about security? i have wondered about the packages. are they ever checked by others? recompiled and checked with things like checksums
[21:48] <auvajs> k1l: http://pastebin.com/Ypi78Z31
[21:48] <k1l> krizoek: ubuntu got a security team for the packages in main. all packages from all repos are signed and checksum checked from apt
[21:48] <ash_workz> k1l: how did you find out that it was pg_ctlcluster?
[21:48] <ash_workz> k1l: is there one for initdb?
[21:49] <k1l> krizoek: the community repos like universe only grant upload permissions to known users. they are peer reviewed yb the community.
[21:49] <k1l> ash_workz: usually you control the postgresql server with the ubuntu "service" command. not the postgresql one.
[21:51] <k1l> auvajs: what ubuntu is that?
[21:51] <k1l> auvajs: lsb_release -sd
[21:51] <krizoek> great
[21:52] <krizoek> since ubuntu is so popular, it might make it even more secure than other distros that compile everything?
[21:52] <krizoek> you can compile entire ubuntu from source?
[21:52] <k1l> krizoek: ubuntu ships precompiled packages. so the clients pc doesnt have the compiling load.
[21:52] <k1l> krizoek: you can. the source is available
[21:53] <ash_workz> there's a freaking conflict this whole time
[21:53] <ash_workz> there's /usr/bin/psql and /var/lib/.../psql
[21:54] <ash_workz> I am confounded... what the hell was psql supposed to do?
[21:54] <ash_workz> I mean /usr/bin/psql
[21:54] <k1l> ash_workz: what is the issue? why dont you use "sudo service .... start "
[21:57] <krizoek> yeah
[21:57] <krizoek> i have been using gentoo for a while. tired of having to compile and configure everything. and all the flags and whatnot
[21:57] <krizoek> ubuntu is so easy. just install and run
[21:57] <compdoc> sounds like work
[21:57] <k1l> yes, gentoo got a different strategy on that
[21:58] <krizoek> yeah, its allot of work
[22:01] <krizoek> who do the releases of the various compilations?
[22:01] <krizoek> can everyone join?
[22:01] <krizoek> and is there like a sheet of which use flags is to be used in general?
[22:01] <k1l> krizoek: do you mean the .isos?
[22:02] <krizoek> whats put inside the main apt repos
[22:02] <k1l> if you mean the packages, there are the maintainers.
[22:02] <k1l> that is mainly debian and canonical guys.
[22:03] <krizoek> ok
[22:03] <nacc> krizoek: no, there's not a sheet, because unlike gentoo, you don't typically build a package yourself, so it's not really that important to you as the end-user
[22:03] <k1l> krizoek: on launchpad.net or on packages.ubuntu.com you can see the maintainers listed
[22:04] <k1l> krizoek: if you wonder about the compile flags of packages see this explanation: http://askubuntu.com/a/48532/31260
[22:05] <krizoek> great, ty
[22:05] <Zew> is there a way to list all available packages from Ubuntu default repo, and either filter, or grep the results?
[22:05] <k1l> Zew: apt search keyword/packagename
[22:05] <ppf> apt search?
[22:05] <Zew> tahnks!
[22:06] <krizoek> yes, i was just checking a build log. this is great
[22:06] <ghoti> Zew: `apt-cache search` would be my vote
[22:06] <Zew> ghoti: what the diff?
[22:06] <ppf> ghoti: it's just apt now
[22:06] <Zew> gotta loves changes hahah
[22:07] <k1l> ghoti: apt is the new apt-get, apt-cache etc and is grouping some old commands into it.
[22:07] <ppf> sadly not apt file, though
[22:07] <Zew> wait... so I shoulda been using apt instead of apt-get?
[22:07] <Zew> I've mostly been using apt-get
[22:07] <ppf> you can
[22:07] <ghoti> k1l/ppf, thanks, apparently I only run old ubuntu boxes. :-)
[22:08] <ppf> it's shorter to type and has colors!
[22:08] <k1l> Zew: the old apt-get still works. but the new apt will replace it some day. like in 50 years :)
[22:08] <Zew> hahah ok
[22:09] <coffeeguy> the loading is super
[22:09] <k1l> ppf: and a progressbar :)
[22:10] <coffeeguy> :D
[22:10] <ppf> but no apt-file
[22:10] <Zew> OK so my main reason for asking the search thing for apt was cause while I was following this guide, I ragge don a bit cause the guy who wrote the blog used the RPM from a site, instead of grabbing the one right from Ubuntu's repo
[22:10] <ppf> that i'm still sad about
[22:10] <Zew> so now Im at another step where it seems to be the same thing, but this time instead of tomcat, its for the pwm software itself
[22:10] <k1l> Zew: uh, rpm :/
[22:11] <Zew> from what I can tell there is no pwm in ubuntus repo
[22:11] <k1l> pwm?
[22:11] <Zew> is it ok to install PWM in this fashion then?
[22:11] <ppf> use apt search or packages.ubuntu.com
[22:11] <Zew> http://www.serveradventures.com/the-adventures/installing-pwm-open-source-password-self-service-in-2016
[22:11] <Zew> I've shared this blog post like 100 times now
[22:12] <Zew> I just want to make sure that I'm grabbing the right package from the right place if one exists, else I'm assumign I have to manually install as the blog states?
[22:12] <k1l> Zew: insatlling .rpm sounds like a horrible howto.
[22:12] <Zew> k1l: whatelse can you do if its not available in teh deafult repo?
[22:13] <k1l> that sounds like a "i only know centos, rhel, fedora, but i make a ubuntu howto
[22:13] <ppf> if it's not in the repos you need to go to the vendor
[22:13] <Zew> I didn't write it
[22:13] <Zew> its simply the "best" we could find
[22:13] <Zew> pwman3/xenial,xenial 0.5.1d-1 all console password management application
[22:14] <Zew> Is all I found via apt search
[22:14] <Zew> not the same
[22:15] <Zew> thanks guys for the feedback
[22:18] <k1l> Zew: i dont see a rpm file mentioned there. it uses .war files for tomcat
[22:19] <Zew> indeed sorry
[22:19] <Zew> I had assumed it was an installer, and that made an assout of me
[22:20] <Zew> learning as I go on this one
[22:20] <blazeme8> How are multiselect field values supposed to be passed when using debconf-set-selections? Quoted string? Commas?
[22:27] <phily> hello from Ukraine
[22:33] <nicomachus> hi philroche
[22:33] <nicomachus> errr
[22:33] <nicomachus> oops
[22:33] <_adb> i have a sound card with two outputs -- internal speakers and headphones. i want to disable the internal speakers, forbidding a user from changing their volume or re-enabling them, but still allow them to use headphones (and change the volume). is this possible? 16.04.1, Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[22:37] <sl1rpy> trying out LTS with unity on a laptop and I am trying to find the best method for turning off touchpad gestures because im randomlly opening things or changing windows when i dont want to.
[22:40] <_adb> sl1rpy: system settings -> keyboard and mouse->touchpad and uncheck multi gesture? (i don't have unity, can't test. saw it here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225634)
[22:41] <_adb> er -- unfortunately, it looks liek that didn'twork, but the rest of that thread may contain helpful information
[22:42] <Zewwy> Yeeeha!
[22:42] <Zewwy> I successfully setup PWM... properlly! hahaha
[22:42] <Zewwy> using all Ubuntu repo packages
[22:42] <Zewwy> thanks a bunch guys!
[22:46] <sl1rpy> does using synclient stick to current session or does it stick?
[22:46] <sl1rpy> _adb,
[22:46] <Zewwy> ?
[22:47] <_adb> not a clue. try it and see
[22:55] <sl1rpy> _adb, no... the settings dont stick.  i saw that someone was suggesting that someone should write a gui for synclient
[22:56] <_adb> sl1rpy: if the only problem is the non-persistence, you can write a script to run the commands for you when you log in/boot up
[22:56] <sl1rpy> yep. :)
[22:57] <countingdaisies> I'm not sure what to search for ...  I have a situation where I need to install multiple php applications (1 currently installed and 1 one lined up to install any time soon).  I don't know enough about what scheme/system/type of soln I need to employ so that the urls used to access each application are unique. I have heard different terms related to configuring a web server or something like...
[22:57] <countingdaisies> ...that, but I don't know what to choose or where to begin. Can someone steer me in the right direction?
[23:00] <_adb> countingdaisies: apache virtual hosts?
[23:01] <_adb> that's tricky, though, since the answer to that question depends heavily on the particulars of your situation
[23:05] <OerHeks> countingdaisies, good start would be #ubuntu-server
[23:05] <countingdaisies> _adb: Uhh, I have a package called eramba installed (the installed php package) but I don't know in what way it was configured since I just followed instructions (from more then one source). Now I also want to install media wiki which is a php application. Right now I access eramba by entering "http://localhost/login" or if I type "http://localhost/" it redirects to the first.
[23:06] <countingdaisies> _adb: also , eramba is not installed properly (barely installed I'd call it) though
[23:06] <countingdaisies> that's my sitch
[23:08] <countingdaisies> OerHeks: sorry, idk why I didn't see that ^ until just now. my bad
[23:09] <OerHeks> * if you find no answer here, ofcourse
[23:09] <countingdaisies> OerHeks: thx
[23:11] <Hrx> why forbidden ? http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent?_ga=1.199677672.797644579.1483540135
[23:11] <Hrx> i can't download any version of ubuntu pff
[23:12] <k1l> Hrx: choose here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[23:13] <k1l> Hrx: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[23:13] <OerHeks> strange tracker
[23:14] <Hrx> thnx bro <3
[23:14] <mukluks> OerHeks: i get the same problem when i click the torrent download link, but if you remove that ?_ga=.... parameter it works
[23:15] <mukluks> weird
[23:15] <OerHeks> google thingy .. https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/cookies-user-id
[23:15] <Hrx> thnx man problem fixed <3
[23:16] <OerHeks> maybe you got the url from a website, not from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[23:18] <Hrx> i just want to do fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 cuz the os support fglrx driver :( anyone here now how to install amd driver in 16.04 (2 cards : intel + amd)
[23:20] <k1l> Hrx: amd doesnt make fglrx anymore. they now make amd_gpu as open source driver and ship that with the linux kernel. for most recent cards you can load their prop. addon. but as always, amd dropped older cards from the support.
[23:21] <k1l> Hrx: so runing 16.04 the kernel will automatically load amd_gpu if the video card is supported by amd. if its not it will load the free viddeo driver radeon
[23:21] <k1l> that is for all recent linux distributions.
[23:21] <Hrx> that's it .. when i tried to install amd gpu after reboot i got a black screen
[23:22] <OerHeks> driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[23:22] <k1l> Hrx: so is your card supported by amd still?
[23:22] <k1l> Hrx: because if not, you cant just install something and amd will support that again.
[23:23] <OerHeks> it should be loaded standard indeed, no install at all. maybe the pro driver from their site?
[23:24] <Hrx> my card is not supported anymore pfff i have amd radeon 230M
[23:24] <k1l> yeah, but that only works if the card is supported by amd_gpu  (by amd) in first place.
[23:24] <OerHeks> jups
[23:24] <giovanni> hi all, who can explain me how backup works? For example the backup with "tar". Question is: if I backup my disk with tar, then I format everything and reinstall a clean system, if i receover the backup (with tar) I turn exactly to my last version before formatting?
[23:25] <OerHeks> openradeon is not bad, i play youtube, dual screen, wobbly windows ..
[23:25] <Hrx> so i wil install ubuntu 14.04 that's all
[23:26] <Hrx> thnx for the help <3
[23:26] <dax> it's just "radeon". and "amdgpu" sans underscore, for that matter
[23:26] <OerHeks> giovanni, basicly yes.
[23:27] <giovanni> OerHeks what do you mean with basicly?
[23:27] <giovanni> It is as I said or something can go wrong
[23:27] <giovanni> ?
[23:27] <k1l> 230m is R5? i think that is not supported by amd anymore
[23:28] <Hrx> yes R5
[23:28] <dax> should work fine with the radeon driver
[23:28] <dax> i.e., out of the box
[23:28] <OerHeks> if you perform a full backup, yes. if you do just your /home/  folder, settings will be present but you need to reinstall all programs too.
[23:29] <Hrx> dax i'm going with fglrx .. it's still supported by ubuntu 14.04
[23:29] <dax> *shrug*
[23:30] <dax> fglrx was crap when it was supported, and it's a dead end now, but do what you will
[23:30] <Hrx> cuz i can"t do anythiing :(
[23:30] <giovanni> a full back up restore the entire system at 100%? All the applications too? All the customizations I did (themes, icon, launcher, permissions)? And the data?
[23:30] <giovanni> OerHeks
[23:31] <giovanni> How can I do a full back up?
[23:36] <wedgie> giovanni: if that's what you are looking for you may be better off with a disk imaging solution like clonezilla
[23:36] <Hrx> giovanni u can try to make an iso os
[23:37] <Hrx> it means your private os
[23:37] <giovanni> An iso I create from this one?
[23:37] <giovanni> How can I do it?
[23:38] <giovanni> Clonezilla?
[23:40] <Hrx> check this : http://www.techrepublic.com/article/create-a-live-system-iso-for-your-ubuntu-based-linux-machines-using-systemback/
[23:40] <Hrx> it may helps u
[23:49] <mixxit> hey guys
[23:49] <mixxit> i just installed xubuntu on my laptop and im getting a black screen of death
[23:49] <masterlinux_> yo
[23:49] <Rowanook> Hi folks, can anyone suggest somewhere for a Noob such as myself to get advice troubleshooting? I have an install (16.04) on my server, now after a restart is refusing to boot. goes straight to GRUB
[23:50] <mixxit> i had to do nomodeset acpi=off to install
[23:50] <k1l> mixxit: so add that to the kernel in grub again to boot.
[23:50] <k1l> mixxit: what video card is it?
[23:50] <mixxit> sure id id that
[23:51] <mixxit> but it wont :-)
[23:51] <mixxit> its a 960m and skylake
[23:51] <mixxit> so the built in intel hybrid jobby
[23:51] <k1l> mixxit: did you try with only nomodeset on grub?
[23:51] <mixxit> yessir
[23:51] <mixxit> i also tried a various other amount of acpi options from google
[23:52] <mixxit> but no luck
[23:52] <k1l> what ubuntu is it?
[23:52] <mixxit> xubuntu
[23:52] <mixxit> 16
[23:53] <masterlinux_> mixxit: on boot choose advanced boot and resume booting from there. then once your in open terminal and type: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[23:53] <k1l> mixxit: 16.04? people say they could install it
[23:53] <mixxit> advanced optoins for ubuntu?
[23:54] <k1l> and boot it with nomodeset, then isntall the nvidia driver, then remove nomodeset
[23:55] <Rowanook> anyone able to suggest easy to follow troubleshooting advice to get my UBUNTU running agian? Hi folks, can anyone suggest somewhere for a Noob such as myself to get advice troubleshooting? I have an install (16.04) on my server, now after a restart is refusing to boot. goes straight to GRUB
[23:56] <masterlinux_> yeah
[23:56] <mixxit> masterlinux_, its just stuck on Loading intiail ram disk
[23:56] <mixxit> kil
[23:56] <mixxit> k1l,
[23:56] <masterlinux_> mixxit: there's no boot menu list?
[23:56] <mixxit> yeah i got the advanced list pressed e then added nomodeset to the line
[23:56] <mixxit> pressed f10
[23:57] <k1l> mixxit: so it never booted that install?
[23:57] <mixxit> install went through fine
[23:57] <mixxit> i had to use nomodeset acpi=off to kick it off
[23:58] <k1l> and then it finished, then you rebooted and then it didnt never boot up?
[23:58] <masterlinux_> and u cant do the same with installed system?
[23:58] <Rowanook> I shall Assume i have failed at chat rooms then. sorry for wasting your time.
[23:58] <mixxit> i yessir
[23:58] <k1l> Rowanook: well, hard to say, what did you do before that happend? what is the error? works an older kernel?
[23:59] <mixxit> fyi, dunno if it helps, but i connected wifi during install and chose the install updates tickbox