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matthew45hi02:52
DarinMillerHi02:54
metamanHello! ~ Please, I am not able to see the image dimensions meta data when previewing images in Dolphin. I am using Dolphin 16.04.3 with KDE 5.28.0 and Qt 5.6.1 under Kubuntu 16.10 (Kernel 4.8.0-37-generic). Thanks in advance for your help!03:12
metaman(Last year, I used to be able to see those image related information when hovering over the images instantly. Not anymore though).03:15
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metamanI have asked the question at AskUbuntu and would greatly appreciate it if someone can help. Thanks - (https://askubuntu.com/questions/881428/dolphin-is-not-showing-the-image-dimensions-metadata-when-previewing-images-on-k)03:40
valoriemetaman: when you right-click, do you have the option to see what you want?03:40
metamanHello valorie! Thank you for your reply. No when using the righ-click, I am still not able to see any option that would let me see the dimensions. Not even when visiting the properties window.03:41
metaman*right-click03:41
valorieweird03:42
valoriealt+return gets me "properties" including size, but in terms of filesize, not in terms of pixels03:45
valoriethis is in zesty03:45
valorieso I suggest filing a but against Dolphin in bugs.kde.org03:45
valoriebug report, not "but"03:46
metamanvalorie: last year, i used to be able to see all those important metadata especially the image dimensions. As I used to use this feature all the time and I am exclusively a Kubuntu user.03:46
metamanI am not very sure why they vanished from my system03:47
metamanI don't install new programs at all as well. It seems it is out of some recent update since I keep all the packages on their bleeding edge.03:48
valorieI have used that in the past as well, metaman03:48
valorieI think it is a bug that it has disappeared03:49
metamanWhen hovering over any image, can you see the dimensions? or you are getting the same info as me? (the image is available on my AskUbuntu question).03:49
valorieyes, I get the same03:50
metamanIt would be great if you can confirm that since it would tell me if I am the only one who is getting this error or not. I see, it seems both of us are seeing the same window.03:50
valorieI assume that we have the same version of dolphin03:51
metaman16.04.3?03:51
valoriewhat does apt policy dolphin tell you?03:51
valoriein the command line03:51
metamanlet me check real quick...03:52
valorienstalled: 4:16.12.1-0ubuntu3 is mine03:52
metaman4:16.04.3-0ubuntu103:52
valoriehuh03:53
valoriewell, we're different but the same03:53
valorieI can chime in on your bugreport if you file one03:53
metamanRunning "sudo apt-get install dolphin", is suggesting that I am using the latest version under Kubuntu 16.10. Are you under Kubuntu?03:55
valorieyes, using the alpha of 17.04 (zesty)03:57
metamanIndeed, the latest version according to wikipedia is 16.12.1. Since you are using the alpha version of Zesty, you have got the latest packages automatically. Very nice but the problem persisted in both versions which means we will get the next version of Kubuntu with the same bug.03:58
valoriewhich is why I suggest a bug report03:59
valorieI assume it was simply overlooked, and can easily be added back03:59
valorie17.04 isn't released until April, so there is time04:00
valoriewe're staging KDE apps 16.04.2 before the beta, we hope04:01
metamanI never had any success reporting any kind of bug around the Kubuntu forum although i have been using it for the last 6+ years. I don't usually get replies as well. If you care about this feature, please report it up there. You might have a better chance than me since you have a good profile on here. If you don't care about it or simply don't have04:02
metamantime to report that, then just forget it. Either way, thank you very much for taking the time to answer me today.04:02
valoriebugs.kde.org04:03
valorieis the tracker04:03
valorieforums are not bug trackers04:03
metamanYou are right. I just typed the word "forum" up there by mistake. I have tried all types of reporting in the past, nothing really worked out for me.04:06
valorie:(04:08
valorieI file bugs and they are solved/fixed04:08
metamanreporting a bug for a volunteer open source developer to check it and fix it seems to be a hard shot in my records. They should add a feature to report bugs as a paid post. When something is paid, it get noticed around and they feel obliged to address it or explain it to you at least. As i told you before, you have a good profile up there, they ten04:09
metamand to listen to trustworthy members like you. If you have time to file the bug, it would be perfect!04:09
metamanThank you valorie for being so kind today to explain all that. Greatly appreciated :)04:11
valoriethanks for bringing it to my attention, metaman04:12
metamanvalorie : While finilizing my search on the topic, i found this post: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372160 - This guy has already listed our bug since 06/11/2016 and nothing pratically happened since then. It would be kind if you can add your vote to the bug report. Thanks04:49
ubottuKDE bug 372160 in view-engine: details mode "Image Size Field not Populated and tooltip missing EXIF information" [Normal,Unconfirmed]04:49
valoriethanks metaman!05:00
metamanI have also checked online and it seems that this bug has been around for a very long time. No one is really paying attention to it since most developers hardly ever work with graphics or notice those metadata.05:04
valorieI'll find out who can mark this as confirmed for us05:04
valorieunconfirmed bug reports are often ignored, yes05:05
valoriethere are never enough people testing and confirming BRs05:05
metamanThe Kubuntu community is much smaller than the the general Ubuntu community. Although I think Kubuntu is an amazing distro that should have got much more popularity than that.05:06
valoriewell, I agree with you05:08
metamanAsking questions about Kubuntu on AskUbuntu for example, always generates 0 replies, answers or comments. As if Kubuntu is not part of the Ubuntu family.05:08
valoriethe money is on Unity though, but we're not going away05:08
valoriesure, most KDE people use the KDE forum05:09
valorieor kubuntuforums05:09
valorieI never ask questions on askubuntu, although google finds me answers there sometimes05:09
valoriesec05:09
metamanThank you valorie in helping us confirming the bug. I have also added some votes to it hoping they "might" fix it in the next upcoming release.06:01
morfeoxhello, help please, me again?06:08
morfeoxI solve the problem of the other day but now I have question06:08
morfeoxI use ubuntu and every time I installed burg bootleader, but how I do that on kubuntu06:09
morfeoxI try it like in ubuntu but doesn't work06:09
valorie!info burg06:09
ubottuPackage burg does not exist in yakkety06:09
morfeoxhello valorie06:09
user|44192Hello guys i had a malicious person acces my files and delete or cut my files.I have tried installing test disk but to no avail.I kindly need some assistance on the matter.Any help will be greatlt appreciated.06:10
morfeoxso ubottu, I can't used, just that simple?06:11
morfeoxand you have a suggestion of another bootloeader like burg that can I use in yakkety, please?06:11
valoriemorfeox: I just did `apt search bootloader` and there are lots of choices06:11
valoriehowever, I don't see that one06:12
hateballhmmm, today both screens have no desktops or panels. plasma is nice that way, a new experience each boot06:12
* hateball sighs06:12
valoriethat doesn't mean you can't use it06:12
valoriebut it means you can't just install and use06:12
denza242How do I restart pulseaudio? Just service pulseaudio restart?06:12
valoriedenza242: I think so -- start or restart06:13
denza242thanks06:13
valorieuser|44192: what do you mean "test disk"?06:13
denza242It's taking a bit more CPU than usual, so might as well try restarting06:13
morfeoxok but valorie, what bootloader from the search and list you say, you say works better06:14
Unit193Burg hasn't been maintained for 7 years, and doesn't support UEFI.06:15
valoriemorfeox: I've never used anything but the bootloader that comes on the ISO06:15
valoriegrub, and then grub206:16
valoriethe other favorite is LILO06:16
morfeoxthanks for the info, but someone can suggest one of them, for own expirience?06:16
Unit193valorie: Technically the bootloader on the iso is isolinux.06:16
valorieerr, ok06:16
valoriethat, then06:16
Unit193grub/grub2 is what you use when installed.06:16
valoriemorfeox: I assume if you wanted selinux you would already be using that06:17
morfeoxvalorie you have used LILO and works ok?06:17
Unit193morfeox: I missed it, what's wrong with grub?06:17
valorieno, unless that was what came on Mandrake, years ago06:17
morfeoxfor me no problem, but grafically has nothing good and for other user of my PC that don't have much expirience in tecnology means something rare06:19
morfeoxso I need a bootloader better grafically than the bootloaders for default06:20
hateballTypically you dont stare much at grub, you'd be looking at the plymouth splash06:21
morfeoxsomething the begginers can understand when power on my PC I try to use, now that I also have installed Win10 for them in a partition, so now understand me06:22
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Trioxinplasma keeps crashing. I'm running 16.10. This all started after I accidentally started a second session under the same user account I was logged in as. Plasmashell crashes each time I type anything into search. Also my openvpn program has a second instance  running for some reason (Abnormal)06:41
Trioxini tried renaming .kde dir06:41
TrioxinI've rebooted a few times, logged out a few times.06:41
hateballTrioxin: what are your session settings? to restore state or start with new session?06:44
Trioxinnew06:45
Trioxinhateball, sart with new06:45
valoriehuh, renaming ~/.kde06:59
valoriehaven't seen that for awhile....06:59
hateballoh they left07:00
hateballshame, since plasma stuff is in ~/.local these days07:00
Trioxintried deleting .cache07:02
Trioxindidn't work07:02
Trioxinhow can I reset anything that may have been caused by starting a parallel session07:04
valorieTrioxin: ~/.kde controls only KDE4 applications07:04
hateballTrioxin: plasma 5 stuff is under ~/.local07:04
valorienow everything is in ~/.local and ~/.config07:04
valorieso unless you are running 14.04, try moving ~/.local07:05
Trioxinthere's all kinds of stuff in there for other apps07:06
Trioxinlogging out and back in after these actions should be enough right?07:09
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dahliaI have kubuntu 15.10 64 bit, is there a way I can get the nvidia-367.57 driver via aptitude?09:05
dahliaand/or how can I upgrade to 16.04 without breaking everything?09:08
hateballdahlia: 15.10 is EOL, upgrade to 16.0409:08
dahliahow do I upgrade?09:08
hateballdahlia: sudo do-release-upgrade09:08
dahliadoes that usually work? I've done upgrades in the past and it wasn't pretty09:09
hateballdahlia: once on 16.04 there are a number of things I'd advise you to do, such as use the kubuntu backports PPA as well as the nvidia PPA09:09
hateballdahlia: I've upgraded a number of machines anyhow09:09
hateballif you're worried, as usual take backups before09:09
dahliahateball: well I'll try it, I think I at least have /home on a separate partition09:10
jimsiohi, want to switch from ubuntu-mate to kde. i installed plasma09:20
jimsionow i tried muon09:20
jimsiobut search doesn't work09:20
jimsiodo i need an extra package for that?09:20
hateballjimsio: I dont think so, but afaik muon is quite broken anyhow09:21
hateballjimsio: 16.04 or 16.10 ?09:21
hateballjimsio: did you install only plasma, or did you grab kubuntu-desktop ?09:21
jimsio16.1009:21
jimsioonly plasma09:22
jimsioplasma-desktop09:22
hateballmuon should have its dependencies properly set to function anyway I'd think09:22
hateballbut I cant say, as I only use kubuntu-desktop09:22
hateballjimsio: are you talking discover or package manager btw?09:23
jimsioi see all the packages scrolling through but search shows nothing09:24
jimsiopackage manager09:24
hateballhmmm, seems to work for me on 16.04 anyhows09:25
jimsiodon't want to install all the kde desktop, because i don't use most apps09:25
jimsiodon't believe it is a missing package09:27
jimsiostrange09:27
jimsioso i use apt09:27
jimsioand synaptic ;)09:27
dahliaI think I just used plasma-desktop when I put kde on debian09:30
jimsioi muon search depend on something, apt-get install had installed it...09:32
jimsiostarted muon the fifth time now it works09:36
hateballperhaps it has its own cache or something that needs to be built09:39
dahliahow can I make the digital clock desktop widget larger?12:11
dahlianvm I found it12:14
acheronuklittle resize icon in the widget toolbox :)12:14
dahliaya but have to hold down left mouse for a while before it shows12:15
acheronukin the configure desktop right click menu, in the tweaks section, you can change it so you only have to hover on widgets for that12:16
dahliaah ok ty12:17
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makaanhello guys12:56
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Vamp898Hi there. After adding the packports ppa to get a more recent version of KDE, almost everything works perfect except... KWin shortcuts disappeared. Normally in Systemsettings --> Shortcuts --> Global Shortcuts there is supposed to be an section called KWin. This is no longer there after the upgrade.13:50
Vamp898I was able to reproduce this behavior on a fresh installed VM13:50
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yossarianukhi - is plasma 5.9.x planned for the backports ppa ?14:22
yossarianukThe bad thing about the PPA is often its behind... Right now @ 5.8.5 but 5.8.6 is out .14:22
soeeit won't land in 16.04 but should in 16.10 backports14:24
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yossarianuksoee: cheers, that makes sense as 5.8.x is LTS too..14:38
yossarianuk17.04 - that will use 5.9.x I assume ?14:39
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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> 5.8.6 is not out until Tue 2017-02-2115:34
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Roeyhi all16:10
Roeycan anyone recommend me a good NAS (with four bays) that I can install BorgBackup on?16:10
Roeyi.e. linux-based16:10
glemsomSometimes when i start KDE, one of my screens is completly black. Right-Click contex isn't working either on that screen - and I've noticed the mouse-theme is the default white theme... How can I avoid this ?16:23
OrteipIs the splash screen set to display?16:24
glemsomOrteip: I see a splash-screen when I start yes16:25
glemsomShould I try and disable that ?16:25
OrteipNo, I would suggest leaving that on glemsom16:26
OrteipIt gives KDE time to initialize16:26
OrteipIt happened to me when I disabled that16:26
Orteipglemsom: I just enabled it and it was fixed, so I can't help you past here16:27
glemsomhmm, I'll try and disable it then... maybe that's better for me....16:27
glemsomone thing though, i noticed the login-screen seems to mirror my screens... wonder if that is normal ?16:28
Orteipglemsom: maybe you shoud try and change the compositor you are using?16:29
glemsomhmm how do I do that ?16:29
OrteipSettings > Screen and monitor > Compositor16:29
OrteipWhen I was using openGL 2 i had some problems16:29
Orteipbut got them fixed when switching to opengl 316:30
glemsomI'll give it a go... bbl16:31
glemsomWell, after disable of splash-screen, it seems KDE can remember my screens now... :D16:44
glemsomIt cannot remember my shortcut for application launcher though.. :(16:44
Orteipglemsom: What happens? When you set the shortcut it won't work after rebooting?16:46
glemsomOrteip: Correct... after each reboot, it forgets my shortcut... :/16:46
Orteipglemsom: Can you change the default app for any file? i.e. set .webm to be opened with VLC instead of firefox?16:49
glemsomOrteip: yeah, for example i created a custom shortcut for opening "Konsole"... this works through reboots... but, the builtin for Plasma -> Application menu does not :(16:49
Orteipglemsom: Well then i don't know why this happens16:50
Orteipat least it is a minor problem16:50
glemsomAnd when I choose to get new wallpapers, and choose another category, it displayes all soft of other files - which are not wallpapers for download... :/16:51
glemsomAs this i a fresh install, i honestly didn't expect to see those kind of quirks within the first few hours of use... :/16:51
Scaniatruckerglemson:hello. You can try KDE Neon. You found, that it is a bug free experience.16:54
glemsomhmm KDE Neon... haven't heard of it.... I'll give that a go ! :D16:55
glemsomohh it's for 16.04... I installed 16.10 :/16:56
yossarianukyou would need to reinstall to install kde-neon (or its a good idea anyway)16:56
yossarianukIts ubuntu 16.04 + latest stable plasma16:56
glemsomThink I'll give gnome3 a try instead then... I need the better qemu in 16.10 anyway...16:57
glemsomThink I'll log into console and install that.... bbl.... :P16:57
yossarianukbefore yo do that though you may want to enable the kubuntu-backports PPA16:57
yossarianukthat gives you plasma 5.8.5 at present which fixes a lot of stuff16:57
yossarianuki.e try the kubuntu-backports PPA with your present system16:58
yossarianukfixed a few things for me16:58
yossarianukhttp://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-4-available-in-16-04-backports/16:58
yossarianukignore the fact it says 16.04 - the repo also works for 16.1016:59
Scaniatruckerglemsom: here link https://neon.kde.org/17:02
TemporalBeingQ: I'm running a MacBook Pro Retina 2013 with 2 external monitors (HDMI, DP) so I have 3 in total (eDP, DP, HDMI). Occasionally the built-in monitor (eDP) will turn off. KDE/xrandr seems to think it's still active. I've tried enable/disable via SystemSettings and via xrandr with no luck. In past I've resolved through a reboot. Suggestions?18:28
TemporalBeingRunning 16.10 LTS with all updates; (KDEF 2.26.0, Qt 5.6.1, xcb windowing according to Dolphin's About Dolphin)18:30
TemporalBeingplasma desktop 5.718:31
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woodchuckHi! I'm new to this irc thing but am willing to pit in the time to learn it19:05
* genii makes more coffee19:05
woodchuckCoffe would be great19:06
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keithzgHmm, does anyone know why a groovy script I'm writing (a Jenkinsfile, literally named Jenkinsfile, which I'm using for an in-SCM Jenkins pipeline definition) isn't automatically detected by Kate and set to "groovy" as the mode? I have to do so every time I open it, which obviously isn't a big deal but I'm wondering what more I'd need to do to get it automatically detected like most files are.20:37
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mgolden_keithzg: I believe it's based on file extension, not name22:39
mgolden_Try Settings -> Configure Kate -> Editor Component -> Open/Save -> Modes and Filetypes22:40
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jeffythedragonslHi23:59

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