[02:52] <matthew45> hi
[02:54] <DarinMiller> Hi
[03:12] <metaman> Hello! ~ Please, I am not able to see the image dimensions meta data when previewing images in Dolphin. I am using Dolphin 16.04.3 with KDE 5.28.0 and Qt 5.6.1 under Kubuntu 16.10 (Kernel 4.8.0-37-generic). Thanks in advance for your help!
[03:15] <metaman> (Last year, I used to be able to see those image related information when hovering over the images instantly. Not anymore though).
[03:40] <metaman> I have asked the question at AskUbuntu and would greatly appreciate it if someone can help. Thanks - (https://askubuntu.com/questions/881428/dolphin-is-not-showing-the-image-dimensions-metadata-when-previewing-images-on-k)
[03:40] <valorie> metaman: when you right-click, do you have the option to see what you want?
[03:41] <metaman> Hello valorie! Thank you for your reply. No when using the righ-click, I am still not able to see any option that would let me see the dimensions. Not even when visiting the properties window.
[03:41] <metaman> *right-click
[03:42] <valorie> weird
[03:45] <valorie> alt+return gets me "properties" including size, but in terms of filesize, not in terms of pixels
[03:45] <valorie> this is in zesty
[03:45] <valorie> so I suggest filing a but against Dolphin in bugs.kde.org
[03:46] <valorie> bug report, not "but"
[03:46] <metaman> valorie: last year, i used to be able to see all those important metadata especially the image dimensions. As I used to use this feature all the time and I am exclusively a Kubuntu user.
[03:47] <metaman> I am not very sure why they vanished from my system
[03:48] <metaman> I don't install new programs at all as well. It seems it is out of some recent update since I keep all the packages on their bleeding edge.
[03:48] <valorie> I have used that in the past as well, metaman
[03:49] <valorie> I think it is a bug that it has disappeared
[03:49] <metaman> When hovering over any image, can you see the dimensions? or you are getting the same info as me? (the image is available on my AskUbuntu question).
[03:50] <valorie> yes, I get the same
[03:50] <metaman> It would be great if you can confirm that since it would tell me if I am the only one who is getting this error or not. I see, it seems both of us are seeing the same window.
[03:51] <valorie> I assume that we have the same version of dolphin
[03:51] <metaman> 16.04.3?
[03:51] <valorie> what does apt policy dolphin tell you?
[03:51] <valorie> in the command line
[03:52] <metaman> let me check real quick...
[03:52] <valorie> nstalled: 4:16.12.1-0ubuntu3 is mine
[03:52] <metaman> 4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1
[03:53] <valorie> huh
[03:53] <valorie> well, we're different but the same
[03:53] <valorie> I can chime in on your bugreport if you file one
[03:55] <metaman> Running "sudo apt-get install dolphin", is suggesting that I am using the latest version under Kubuntu 16.10. Are you under Kubuntu?
[03:57] <valorie> yes, using the alpha of 17.04 (zesty)
[03:58] <metaman> Indeed, the latest version according to wikipedia is 16.12.1. Since you are using the alpha version of Zesty, you have got the latest packages automatically. Very nice but the problem persisted in both versions which means we will get the next version of Kubuntu with the same bug.
[03:59] <valorie> which is why I suggest a bug report
[03:59] <valorie> I assume it was simply overlooked, and can easily be added back
[04:00] <valorie> 17.04 isn't released until April, so there is time
[04:01] <valorie> we're staging KDE apps 16.04.2 before the beta, we hope
[04:02] <metaman> I never had any success reporting any kind of bug around the Kubuntu forum although i have been using it for the last 6+ years. I don't usually get replies as well. If you care about this feature, please report it up there. You might have a better chance than me since you have a good profile on here. If you don't care about it or simply don't have
[04:02] <metaman> time to report that, then just forget it. Either way, thank you very much for taking the time to answer me today.
[04:03] <valorie> bugs.kde.org
[04:03] <valorie> is the tracker
[04:03] <valorie> forums are not bug trackers
[04:06] <metaman> You are right. I just typed the word "forum" up there by mistake. I have tried all types of reporting in the past, nothing really worked out for me.
[04:08] <valorie> :(
[04:08] <valorie> I file bugs and they are solved/fixed
[04:09] <metaman> reporting a bug for a volunteer open source developer to check it and fix it seems to be a hard shot in my records. They should add a feature to report bugs as a paid post. When something is paid, it get noticed around and they feel obliged to address it or explain it to you at least. As i told you before, you have a good profile up there, they ten
[04:09] <metaman> d to listen to trustworthy members like you. If you have time to file the bug, it would be perfect!
[04:11] <metaman> Thank you valorie for being so kind today to explain all that. Greatly appreciated :)
[04:12] <valorie> thanks for bringing it to my attention, metaman
[04:49] <metaman> valorie : While finilizing my search on the topic, i found this post: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372160 - This guy has already listed our bug since 06/11/2016 and nothing pratically happened since then. It would be kind if you can add your vote to the bug report. Thanks
[05:00] <valorie> thanks metaman!
[05:04] <metaman> I have also checked online and it seems that this bug has been around for a very long time. No one is really paying attention to it since most developers hardly ever work with graphics or notice those metadata.
[05:04] <valorie> I'll find out who can mark this as confirmed for us
[05:05] <valorie> unconfirmed bug reports are often ignored, yes
[05:05] <valorie> there are never enough people testing and confirming BRs
[05:06] <metaman> The Kubuntu community is much smaller than the the general Ubuntu community. Although I think Kubuntu is an amazing distro that should have got much more popularity than that.
[05:08] <valorie> well, I agree with you
[05:08] <metaman> Asking questions about Kubuntu on AskUbuntu for example, always generates 0 replies, answers or comments. As if Kubuntu is not part of the Ubuntu family.
[05:08] <valorie> the money is on Unity though, but we're not going away
[05:09] <valorie> sure, most KDE people use the KDE forum
[05:09] <valorie> or kubuntuforums
[05:09] <valorie> I never ask questions on askubuntu, although google finds me answers there sometimes
[05:09] <valorie> sec
[06:01] <metaman> Thank you valorie in helping us confirming the bug. I have also added some votes to it hoping they "might" fix it in the next upcoming release.
[06:08] <morfeox> hello, help please, me again?
[06:08] <morfeox> I solve the problem of the other day but now I have question
[06:09] <morfeox> I use ubuntu and every time I installed burg bootleader, but how I do that on kubuntu
[06:09] <morfeox> I try it like in ubuntu but doesn't work
[06:09] <valorie> !info burg
[06:09] <morfeox> hello valorie
[06:10] <user|44192> Hello guys i had a malicious person acces my files and delete or cut my files.I have tried installing test disk but to no avail.I kindly need some assistance on the matter.Any help will be greatlt appreciated.
[06:11] <morfeox> so ubottu, I can't used, just that simple?
[06:11] <morfeox> and you have a suggestion of another bootloeader like burg that can I use in yakkety, please?
[06:11] <valorie> morfeox: I just did `apt search bootloader` and there are lots of choices
[06:12] <valorie> however, I don't see that one
[06:12] <hateball> hmmm, today both screens have no desktops or panels. plasma is nice that way, a new experience each boot
[06:12]  * hateball sighs
[06:12] <valorie> that doesn't mean you can't use it
[06:12] <valorie> but it means you can't just install and use
[06:12] <denza242> How do I restart pulseaudio? Just service pulseaudio restart?
[06:13] <valorie> denza242: I think so -- start or restart
[06:13] <denza242> thanks
[06:13] <valorie> user|44192: what do you mean "test disk"?
[06:13] <denza242> It's taking a bit more CPU than usual, so might as well try restarting
[06:14] <morfeox> ok but valorie, what bootloader from the search and list you say, you say works better
[06:15] <Unit193> Burg hasn't been maintained for 7 years, and doesn't support UEFI.
[06:15] <valorie> morfeox: I've never used anything but the bootloader that comes on the ISO
[06:16] <valorie> grub, and then grub2
[06:16] <valorie> the other favorite is LILO
[06:16] <morfeox> thanks for the info, but someone can suggest one of them, for own expirience?
[06:16] <Unit193> valorie: Technically the bootloader on the iso is isolinux.
[06:16] <valorie> err, ok
[06:16] <valorie> that, then
[06:16] <Unit193> grub/grub2 is what you use when installed.
[06:17] <valorie> morfeox: I assume if you wanted selinux you would already be using that
[06:17] <morfeox> valorie you have used LILO and works ok?
[06:17] <Unit193> morfeox: I missed it, what's wrong with grub?
[06:17] <valorie> no, unless that was what came on Mandrake, years ago
[06:19] <morfeox> for me no problem, but grafically has nothing good and for other user of my PC that don't have much expirience in tecnology means something rare
[06:20] <morfeox> so I need a bootloader better grafically than the bootloaders for default
[06:21] <hateball> Typically you dont stare much at grub, you'd be looking at the plymouth splash
[06:22] <morfeox> something the begginers can understand when power on my PC I try to use, now that I also have installed Win10 for them in a partition, so now understand me
[06:41] <Trioxin> plasma keeps crashing. I'm running 16.10. This all started after I accidentally started a second session under the same user account I was logged in as. Plasmashell crashes each time I type anything into search. Also my openvpn program has a second instance  running for some reason (Abnormal)
[06:41] <Trioxin> i tried renaming .kde dir
[06:41] <Trioxin> I've rebooted a few times, logged out a few times.
[06:44] <hateball> Trioxin: what are your session settings? to restore state or start with new session?
[06:45] <Trioxin> new
[06:45] <Trioxin> hateball, sart with new
[06:59] <valorie> huh, renaming ~/.kde
[06:59] <valorie> haven't seen that for awhile....
[07:00] <hateball> oh they left
[07:00] <hateball> shame, since plasma stuff is in ~/.local these days
[07:02] <Trioxin> tried deleting .cache
[07:02] <Trioxin> didn't work
[07:04] <Trioxin> how can I reset anything that may have been caused by starting a parallel session
[07:04] <valorie> Trioxin: ~/.kde controls only KDE4 applications
[07:04] <hateball> Trioxin: plasma 5 stuff is under ~/.local
[07:04] <valorie> now everything is in ~/.local and ~/.config
[07:05] <valorie> so unless you are running 14.04, try moving ~/.local
[07:06] <Trioxin> there's all kinds of stuff in there for other apps
[07:09] <Trioxin> logging out and back in after these actions should be enough right?
[09:05] <dahlia> I have kubuntu 15.10 64 bit, is there a way I can get the nvidia-367.57 driver via aptitude?
[09:08] <dahlia> and/or how can I upgrade to 16.04 without breaking everything?
[09:08] <hateball> dahlia: 15.10 is EOL, upgrade to 16.04
[09:08] <dahlia> how do I upgrade?
[09:08] <hateball> dahlia: sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:09] <dahlia> does that usually work? I've done upgrades in the past and it wasn't pretty
[09:09] <hateball> dahlia: once on 16.04 there are a number of things I'd advise you to do, such as use the kubuntu backports PPA as well as the nvidia PPA
[09:09] <hateball> dahlia: I've upgraded a number of machines anyhow
[09:09] <hateball> if you're worried, as usual take backups before
[09:10] <dahlia> hateball: well I'll try it, I think I at least have /home on a separate partition
[09:20] <jimsio> hi, want to switch from ubuntu-mate to kde. i installed plasma
[09:20] <jimsio> now i tried muon
[09:20] <jimsio> but search doesn't work
[09:20] <jimsio> do i need an extra package for that?
[09:21] <hateball> jimsio: I dont think so, but afaik muon is quite broken anyhow
[09:21] <hateball> jimsio: 16.04 or 16.10 ?
[09:21] <hateball> jimsio: did you install only plasma, or did you grab kubuntu-desktop ?
[09:21] <jimsio> 16.10
[09:22] <jimsio> only plasma
[09:22] <jimsio> plasma-desktop
[09:22] <hateball> muon should have its dependencies properly set to function anyway I'd think
[09:22] <hateball> but I cant say, as I only use kubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <hateball> jimsio: are you talking discover or package manager btw?
[09:24] <jimsio> i see all the packages scrolling through but search shows nothing
[09:24] <jimsio> package manager
[09:25] <hateball> hmmm, seems to work for me on 16.04 anyhows
[09:25] <jimsio> don't want to install all the kde desktop, because i don't use most apps
[09:27] <jimsio> don't believe it is a missing package
[09:27] <jimsio> strange
[09:27] <jimsio> so i use apt
[09:27] <jimsio> and synaptic ;)
[09:30] <dahlia> I think I just used plasma-desktop when I put kde on debian
[09:32] <jimsio> i muon search depend on something, apt-get install had installed it...
[09:36] <jimsio> started muon the fifth time now it works
[09:39] <hateball> perhaps it has its own cache or something that needs to be built
[12:11] <dahlia> how can I make the digital clock desktop widget larger?
[12:14] <dahlia> nvm I found it
[12:14] <acheronuk> little resize icon in the widget toolbox :)
[12:15] <dahlia> ya but have to hold down left mouse for a while before it shows
[12:16] <acheronuk> in the configure desktop right click menu, in the tweaks section, you can change it so you only have to hover on widgets for that
[12:17] <dahlia> ah ok ty
[12:56] <makaan> hello guys
[13:50] <Vamp898> Hi there. After adding the packports ppa to get a more recent version of KDE, almost everything works perfect except... KWin shortcuts disappeared. Normally in Systemsettings --> Shortcuts --> Global Shortcuts there is supposed to be an section called KWin. This is no longer there after the upgrade.
[13:50] <Vamp898> I was able to reproduce this behavior on a fresh installed VM
[14:22] <yossarianuk> hi - is plasma 5.9.x planned for the backports ppa ?
[14:22] <yossarianuk> The bad thing about the PPA is often its behind... Right now @ 5.8.5 but 5.8.6 is out .
[14:24] <soee> it won't land in 16.04 but should in 16.10 backports
[14:38] <yossarianuk> soee: cheers, that makes sense as 5.8.x is LTS too..
[14:39] <yossarianuk> 17.04 - that will use 5.9.x I assume ?
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[16:10] <Roey> hi all
[16:10] <Roey> can anyone recommend me a good NAS (with four bays) that I can install BorgBackup on?
[16:10] <Roey> i.e. linux-based
[16:23] <glemsom> Sometimes when i start KDE, one of my screens is completly black. Right-Click contex isn't working either on that screen - and I've noticed the mouse-theme is the default white theme... How can I avoid this ?
[16:24] <Orteip> Is the splash screen set to display?
[16:25] <glemsom> Orteip: I see a splash-screen when I start yes
[16:25] <glemsom> Should I try and disable that ?
[16:26] <Orteip> No, I would suggest leaving that on glemsom
[16:26] <Orteip> It gives KDE time to initialize
[16:26] <Orteip> It happened to me when I disabled that
[16:27] <Orteip> glemsom: I just enabled it and it was fixed, so I can't help you past here
[16:27] <glemsom> hmm, I'll try and disable it then... maybe that's better for me....
[16:28] <glemsom> one thing though, i noticed the login-screen seems to mirror my screens... wonder if that is normal ?
[16:29] <Orteip> glemsom: maybe you shoud try and change the compositor you are using?
[16:29] <glemsom> hmm how do I do that ?
[16:29] <Orteip> Settings > Screen and monitor > Compositor
[16:29] <Orteip> When I was using openGL 2 i had some problems
[16:30] <Orteip> but got them fixed when switching to opengl 3
[16:31] <glemsom> I'll give it a go... bbl
[16:44] <glemsom> Well, after disable of splash-screen, it seems KDE can remember my screens now... :D
[16:44] <glemsom> It cannot remember my shortcut for application launcher though.. :(
[16:46] <Orteip> glemsom: What happens? When you set the shortcut it won't work after rebooting?
[16:46] <glemsom> Orteip: Correct... after each reboot, it forgets my shortcut... :/
[16:49] <Orteip> glemsom: Can you change the default app for any file? i.e. set .webm to be opened with VLC instead of firefox?
[16:49] <glemsom> Orteip: yeah, for example i created a custom shortcut for opening "Konsole"... this works through reboots... but, the builtin for Plasma -> Application menu does not :(
[16:50] <Orteip> glemsom: Well then i don't know why this happens
[16:50] <Orteip> at least it is a minor problem
[16:51] <glemsom> And when I choose to get new wallpapers, and choose another category, it displayes all soft of other files - which are not wallpapers for download... :/
[16:51] <glemsom> As this i a fresh install, i honestly didn't expect to see those kind of quirks within the first few hours of use... :/
[16:54] <Scaniatrucker> glemson:hello. You can try KDE Neon. You found, that it is a bug free experience.
[16:55] <glemsom> hmm KDE Neon... haven't heard of it.... I'll give that a go ! :D
[16:56] <glemsom> ohh it's for 16.04... I installed 16.10 :/
[16:56] <yossarianuk> you would need to reinstall to install kde-neon (or its a good idea anyway)
[16:56] <yossarianuk> Its ubuntu 16.04 + latest stable plasma
[16:57] <glemsom> Think I'll give gnome3 a try instead then... I need the better qemu in 16.10 anyway...
[16:57] <glemsom> Think I'll log into console and install that.... bbl.... :P
[16:57] <yossarianuk> before yo do that though you may want to enable the kubuntu-backports PPA
[16:57] <yossarianuk> that gives you plasma 5.8.5 at present which fixes a lot of stuff
[16:58] <yossarianuk> i.e try the kubuntu-backports PPA with your present system
[16:58] <yossarianuk> fixed a few things for me
[16:58] <yossarianuk> http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-4-available-in-16-04-backports/
[16:59] <yossarianuk> ignore the fact it says 16.04 - the repo also works for 16.10
[17:02] <Scaniatrucker> glemsom: here link https://neon.kde.org/
[18:28] <TemporalBeing> Q: I'm running a MacBook Pro Retina 2013 with 2 external monitors (HDMI, DP) so I have 3 in total (eDP, DP, HDMI). Occasionally the built-in monitor (eDP) will turn off. KDE/xrandr seems to think it's still active. I've tried enable/disable via SystemSettings and via xrandr with no luck. In past I've resolved through a reboot. Suggestions?
[18:30] <TemporalBeing> Running 16.10 LTS with all updates; (KDEF 2.26.0, Qt 5.6.1, xcb windowing according to Dolphin's About Dolphin)
[18:31] <TemporalBeing> plasma desktop 5.7
[19:05] <woodchuck> Hi! I'm new to this irc thing but am willing to pit in the time to learn it
[19:05]  * genii makes more coffee
[19:06] <woodchuck> Coffe would be great
[20:37] <keithzg> Hmm, does anyone know why a groovy script I'm writing (a Jenkinsfile, literally named Jenkinsfile, which I'm using for an in-SCM Jenkins pipeline definition) isn't automatically detected by Kate and set to "groovy" as the mode? I have to do so every time I open it, which obviously isn't a big deal but I'm wondering what more I'd need to do to get it automatically detected like most files are.
[22:39] <mgolden_> keithzg: I believe it's based on file extension, not name
[22:40] <mgolden_> Try Settings -> Configure Kate -> Editor Component -> Open/Save -> Modes and Filetypes
[22:45] <Guest30003> .
[23:59] <jeffythedragonsl> Hi