[11:07] <jbicha> I guess you decided you're going to release 32-bit isos?
[11:08] <jbicha> Ubuntu GNOME will eventually stop since it's like double the work at iso release time
[11:10] <fossfreedom_> jbicha: thoughts of when Ubuntu GNOME will make that decision?
[11:10] <fossfreedom_> LTS?
[11:11] <jbicha> well if Budgie announced now that it was amd64 only, that might help us follow now
[11:11] <jbicha> the downside is we're sort of stranding whoever install Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 32-bit
[11:12] <fossfreedom_> let me do a poll of the community.  Will get back to you.
[11:12] <jbicha> because of that, there's an argument that we should wait until after 18.04 LTS
[11:12] <jbicha> thanks, it might be good to decide by Feature Freeze next week
[11:23] <fossfreedom_> jbicha: yep - we'll splat this over social media (just done the G+ poll) - will make a decision monday coming
[11:25] <jbicha> I'm working on updating GNOME to 3.23 Beta (towards 3.24 Final) for zesty over the next week, any concerns with that?
[11:31] <fossfreedom_> jbicha: the only big issue we have is mutter moving to 3.24 - we'll need to test this carefully on our side.
[11:32] <jbicha> I did an initial test with mutter 3.23.3; the budgie desktop at least loaded
[11:32] <jbicha> the mutter devs have made a lot of commits since 3.23.3
[11:33] <fossfreedom_> thanks - the other key test is running stuff full-screen - that caught us and upstream at 3.22
[11:33] <jbicha> it's a bit tricky to test right now because mutter and gnome-shell need to be upgraded together
[11:33] <jbicha> but gnome-shell needs an updated gjs which needs an updated mozjs
[11:33] <jbicha> and you need gnome-shell working if you want to test using gdm3
[11:34] <fossfreedom_> BTW - 10.3 version of budgie-desktop upstream have decided to drop mutter in favour of compiz - unfortunately too late for feature freeze
[11:34] <jbicha> but I'll ping you next week when it's easier to try out, should be gnome 3.23.90 then too (which means GNOME is supposed to be at API/feature freeze)
[11:35] <jbicha> wait, compiz??
[11:35] <fossfreedom_> yes - you read that correctly
[11:35] <jbicha> what happened to the qt proposal?
[11:36] <fossfreedom_> QT is still on the table - what they want is a fallback for X - they want QT for wayland stuff.  Ikey is not a happy bunny with how much workarounds and issues that people encounter with each new mutter release