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jbichaattente: gtk3 can't build on s390x because content-hub isn't built there02:46
attentejbicha: is there a way around that? i'm not sure what content-hub depends on that prevents it from building on s390x03:50
dufluI assume that means GTK3 still works on non-Unity shells without a content-hub...?03:54
hikikohi06:02
dufluhi hi hikiko06:06
hikikohi duflu :-)06:09
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flexiondotorgMorning duflu hikiko08:20
dufluMorning flexiondotorg08:21
hikikomorning all08:21
desrthello!08:30
desrthappy thursday hikiko, seb128, flexiondotorg, duflu !08:30
flexiondotorgMorning desrt and seb12808:31
dufluHey desrt08:31
hikikoI read happy birthday08:31
desrthikiko: oh.  it is?  happy birthday!!08:31
hikikono hahaha08:31
desrt(sorry.  i read "it's my birthday")08:31
flexiondotorgTrevinho you'll be please to hear your remmina snap works great of Debian 9 too :-)08:31
desrt=)08:31
hikiko:p08:31
hikikois it?08:32
desrtis it your birthday?08:32
desrtwell, i mean, obviously... yes...08:32
hikikono my birthday is in august desrt :08:42
hikiko:)08:42
Trevinhodesrt: Yeah, great!08:57
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: that was for you... ^ :-)08:58
TrevinhoBut even the BD misunderstanding is nice šŸ˜‚08:58
flexiondotorg:-)08:59
flexiondotorgTrevinho I think libpulse0 needs adding to the remmina snap.09:01
Laneyahoy09:01
flexiondotorgLaney o/09:01
willcookemorning all09:04
willcookeslightly change of plan, meeting got push back a bit - so will be leaving in an hour or so09:05
willcooke(for London)09:05
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: oh...let me check that09:06
davmor2Morning all09:08
willcookehi davmor209:09
seb128hey desrt flexiondotorg hikiko Trevinho Laney davmor209:10
desrt...the ever-growing chain09:10
hikikohi *09:11
desrtomg its like willcooke Laney Trevinho all here!09:11
willcooke\o\ /o/09:11
desrthai guyz!!09:11
hikikothe hour of the hi-light :p09:11
flexiondotorgMorning seb128 davmor2 willcooke09:12
seb128Trevinho, well done on driving that reminna snap work!09:12
Laneyomgzzzz09:14
seb128Laney, ?09:16
Laneyjust excited to be virtually with you guys09:31
seb128Laney, :-)09:38
davmor2Laney: you just realised it is Thursday really didn't you09:43
seb128not quite friday yet09:47
davmor2seb128: yeah so imagine how excited he'll be then :)09:48
seb128davmor2, "not" you mean? no Ubuntu for some days is not something a true opensource beliver like him is enjoying!09:49
LaneyYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH09:50
LaneyFIXING BUGS!09:50
seb128see :-)09:50
didrocks(and creating more)09:51
didrocks(hey guys! ;))09:51
seb128hey didrocks :-)09:52
Laneyhey didrocks09:54
Laneyhow are you?09:54
didrocksLaney: I'm good (and tired) but good, thanks! :)09:54
didrocksyourself?09:54
Laneyfeeling fineeeeeeeeeee09:55
Laneywe had a pizza night last night09:55
Laneyso also feeling fat09:55
didrockstime for climbing today!09:55
didrocksto eliminate this :p09:55
Laneycorrect09:55
Trevinhoseb128: thanks... Snap was easy, CI integration took longer unfortunately, but... It was nice to learn10:07
Trevinhoseb128: as for the gnome-runtime, I've given a look... But I've to check it further...10:08
seb128Trevinho, k, let me know if you have any comment and how it works for you10:10
willcookeOff to the train station.  bbl10:15
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: so.... freerdp has libpulse-dev dep, so libpulse seems to be takena utomatically, isn't it?10:16
flexiondotorgDoesn't look like. Start remmina interactive, you'll see it complains libpulse0 is missing.10:17
flexiondotorgAdd stage-packages:10:17
flexiondotorgAnd put:10:17
flexiondotorg - libpulse010:17
flexiondotorgIn there.10:17
Trevinhounsquashfs -l remmina_1.2.0-rcgit.17_amd64.snap |grep pulse gives me things... mhmhm10:17
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: same is for fresh installed things here..11:24
Trevinhomarco@ubuntu-vmware:~:0$ find /snap/remmina|grep pulse11:24
Trevinho/snap/remmina/65/usr/lib/freerdp2/libaudin-client-pulse.so11:24
Trevinho/snap/remmina/65/usr/lib/freerdp2/librdpsnd-client-pulse.so11:24
Trevinho/snap/remmina/65/usr/lib/freerdp2/libtsmf-client-pulse-audio.so11:24
Trevinho/snap/remmina/65/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.011:24
Trevinho/snap/remmina/65/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.011:24
Trevinho/snap/remmina/65/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pulseaudio11:24
Trevinho/snap/remmina/65/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pulseaudio/libpulsecommon-8.0.so11:24
flexiondotorghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23960176/11:25
flexiondotorgWhere is your yaml?11:25
flexiondotorgI had a similar issue with pulse.11:26
flexiondotorgI also had to stage libpulse-mainloop-glib0 to overcome it.11:26
TrevinhoAhhhhhhhhhh11:28
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: it's not about that then11:28
Trevinhoin the past LD_LIBRARY_PATH was including $SNAP/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pulseaudio/ too11:29
Trevinhowhen adding pulseaudio11:29
Trevinhoit semes it's not the case anymore?11:29
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: I think it's a job for desktop-launcher then11:30
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: I mean, this was done in /snap/remmina/current/command-remmina.wrapper ...11:30
Trevinhonot sure when it changed11:30
flexiondotorghttps://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/blob/master/common/desktop-exports#L3611:31
flexiondotorgSeems to still be there.11:31
TrevinhoMh, so I don't see why it should give that11:36
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: I don't have that issue though here11:37
Trevinhooh, in the edge there's not the spice plugin... mhmh11:40
flexiondotorgNot sure where RUNTIME is being set when not using the GNOME318 platform snap.11:41
flexiondotorgI'll take a proper look later.11:41
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GunnarHjHi seb128, any progress with the language packs, or shall we postpone it yet another week?11:43
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: it's something weird though...11:44
Trevinhoif you go into the --shell mode11:44
Trevinhoand11:44
Trevinhoenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$SNAP/lib:$SNAP/usr/lib:$SNAP/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:$SNAP/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu" $SNAP/bin/desktop-launch ldd /snap/remmina/current/usr/lib/remmina/plugins/remmina-plugin-spice.so | grep not11:44
Trevinhoyou see that it's not loaded...11:45
Trevinhowhich... is weird11:45
Trevinhoflexiondotorg: as you can see in12:04
Trevinhoenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$SNAP/lib:$SNAP/usr/lib:$SNAP/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:$SNAP/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu" $SNAP/bin/desktop-launch env|grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH | sed 's/:/\n/g'12:04
Trevinhopulseaudio subpath isn't there12:04
Trevinhoah... easy :o12:05
Trevinhogrep pulse $SNAP/bin/desktop-launch12:05
Trevinho##export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$SNAP/usr/lib/$ARCH/pulseaudio:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH12:05
Trevinhowho commented that...12:05
didrocksI was waited for a PR for ages to reenable it, after not seeing any move on it from the contributor, I did fix it this morning12:14
didrocksTrevinho: I'm still sad that pulseaudio (libunity as well apparently) can't find its private lib directory based on LD_LIBRARY_PATH and use either ld loader or a hardcoded one12:15
scipHi all, I’m basically facing this issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears but the fixes aren’t working for me and ccsm isn’t persisting settings when I close it12:15
ogra_by whom were you waited ? :)12:15
scipI’m willing to reinstall some things if it helps, but was wondering if anyone had guidance? This happened after running ā€œapt-get upgradeā€. I have an nvidia card12:15
didrocksogra_: https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/2512:16
didrocksogra_: see the incorrect fix, only Qt-based12:16
* ogra_ was just joking about the typo :)12:16
didrocksTrevinho: I'm surprised that even with that not exported, most of the apps I tried were using pulseaudio with success12:20
didrocksso, I really think there is something we don't understand well12:20
ogra_didrocks, note that there is a massive difference between pulse in xenial and newer ...12:21
ogra_afaik there are some not fully compatible changes between pulse 8 and 912:21
ogra_so it might behave different on a zeyst install than it does on xenial12:21
ogra_**zesty12:22
ogra_(since your snap will have the xenial libpulse0 but the desktop you run on has the newer pulse running)12:22
didrocksogra_: could be, but the issue here is in finding the lib it seems12:27
seb128GunnarHj, sorry it's a bit more work that I though, need to create new keys and get them rolled out on infra, I'm still aiming at getting that done this week but it probably means testing is better done next week12:35
flexiondotorgdidrocks I noticed that pulseaudio work when the snap was built with just 'snapcraft'.12:38
flexiondotorgBut if built with 'snapcraft cleanbuild', pulse didn't work.12:38
flexiondotorgThanks for the fix this morning :-)12:38
GunnarHjseb128: Ok. Have been thinking... (happens once in a while) Considering that translations are not enabled yet for zesty, doesn't that mean that we will miss newly translated strings identical with strings in xenial? And if that's the case, should we possible wait with this xenial update until after the 17.04 release?12:39
willcookeLaney, thanks for that fix on #1630156  - could it be SRU'd to X?12:43
Laneyif it's reviewed and if it reproduces there12:43
Laneyseb128 said he couldn't make it happen there, but I only tried on zesty12:43
seb128I'm following the steps in the description12:44
willcookeI've got a fresh X here, I will test now.12:44
willcookeI guess SRU -> T as well if we can12:44
seb128but I do "set a password" the user gets removing from the group12:44
seb128removed12:44
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seb128dunno what I'm doing wrong/differently12:44
Laneythere is a path where it goes through AS for that12:46
Laneymaybe you manage to hit that one12:46
seb128in which case does it goes through AS and not?12:47
seb128we need to know for the testcasae12:47
didrocksflexiondotorg: yw! That's interesting, I wonder though how exporting would help this, but we'll see12:48
Laney...12:48
LaneyI'm just trying to guess12:48
LaneyI'll update the bug to be SRU compliant ...12:48
Laneydone13:01
willcookeLaney, seb128 - just tested on a fresh 16.04 and I can recreate the bug13:04
willcookelaaaaaaaaaag13:04
Laneyphat13:04
Laneyi think upstream gnome has removed that option fyi13:05
seb128willcooke, Laney, looks like my user is behaving differently, wonder if that's ecryptfs or some special config since that box is upgraded through since trusty or something13:05
seb128I get it with a test user now...13:06
Laneyweird13:06
Laneyput a g_debug in the place that the MP touches and see if you get the passwd_... path or the other one13:06
seb128yeah, going to do that in a bit13:06
Laneywinning13:07
Trevinhodidrocks: mhmh, yeah I noticed you just fixed that :-)13:07
Trevinhodidrocks: not sure what's going on... In theory they should use rpath in that case13:07
didrocksTrevinho: not really fixed to me until we understand13:07
didrockswhich we don't13:07
Trevinhodidrocks: well... workarounded :-)13:08
didrocksyep :)13:08
didrocksbut I don't like it, everytime we do that it's going to strike us back 1000x13:08
Laneydidrocks the hackmaster13:12
didrocksfunny snapcraft bug btw: bug #166323313:17
ubot5bug 1663233 in snapcraft (Ubuntu) "Confusing error message for "organize" when source refers to multiples items and destination doesn't end up with /" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166323313:17
Laneyomg13:20
Laneyjust accidentally looked under my space bar13:20
Laneygruesome13:20
attentejbicha: hey, is it possible to use a depends for libgtk-3-dev like libcontent-hub-glib-dev [!s390x]14:27
jbichaattente: yes but that would mean s390x no longer supports mir and based on the discussion on #ubuntu-devel almost 3 hr ago, I don't think they would rather fix ubuntu-app-launch to build on s390x instead14:35
jbicha*I think they would rather14:36
xnoxjbicha, ideally we want ubuntu-app-launch not depend on src:upstart in zesty, correct. (and thus it will build on s390x)14:37
xnoxjbicha, it is also true that I do not believe mir is there on s390x.14:37
attentejbicha, xnox: is that the only reason content-hub isn't built for s390x?14:37
xnoxjbicha, but we do need src:gtk-3 on s390x, because a lot of things build-depend on gtk-3 whilst building useful commandline packages too.14:37
xnoxattente, correct - the reason content-hub is not build on s390x is due to src:ubuntu-app-launch hard build-dep on src:upstart in zesty.14:38
xnoxwhich should not be required anymore, as ubuntu-app-launch can support systemd these days.14:38
attenteso is there something i can do to help other than wait for u-a-l s390x support?14:46
xnoxattente, you can look into u-a-l code and change CMakeLists to be conditional on src:upstart, rather than hard.14:49
xnoxattente, e.g. remove upstart runtime and build-time dependencies, and make sure that it still builds and runs.14:50
xnoxyou may need to skip parts of the code with ifdef and some tests.14:50
xnoxif you do this. tedg_ & infinity will be really really happy =)14:50
Trevinhoseb128: it's not clear to me how to import the desktop launcher for desktop...14:51
Trevinhoi see that a gnome part is defined, but not added to the wiki... am I wrong?14:51
seb128Trevinho, good point, I didn't check since it was merged but we didn't get much feedback yet so maybe it would be good to get before adding it to the official list?15:01
seb128Trevinho, something like that should work http://paste.ubuntu.com/23960946/15:01
TrevinhoI've added the thing, let me see if it works15:01
Trevinhonot that one though15:01
seb128Trevinho, you just don't get the automagic remote part but defining the part yourself should be the same15:01
seb128which one?15:01
Trevinhoseb128: however, the parte should be renamed in desktop-gnome to be coherent with others15:01
Trevinhoand documentation15:02
seb128renamed to what?15:02
Trevinhoseb128: the part in desktop helpers15:02
Trevinhoseb128: I've added it now... it's there15:02
Trevinhohttps://parts.snapcraft.io/v1/parts.yaml15:02
seb128Trevinho, you added before testing if it works? ;-)15:03
Trevinhoseb128: it's not breaking anything in case15:03
Trevinhoseb128: but change is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/snapcraft/parts?action=diff&rev2=87&rev1=8615:03
tjaaltonTrevinho: hi, are you interested in a compiz/libunityshell crasher when using mesa with libglvnd?-)15:03
Trevinhotjaalton: not much right now šŸ˜‚15:03
tjaaltonhehe15:03
Trevinhotjaalton: but... Well, sure I am15:03
seb128Trevinho, I'm not sure why you want to rename, you don't like desktop-gnome?15:03
Trevinhoseb128: it's called gnome right now15:04
Trevinhonot desktop-gnome15:04
tjaaltonTrevinho: I'll file a bug, it's not that urgent15:04
seb128Trevinho, where?15:04
Trevinhoseb128: in desktop helpers15:04
Trevinhoseb128: https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/46 this fixes that15:04
Trevinhodidrocks: ^ ?15:04
seb128Trevinho, why do we need it twice?15:05
didrocksTrevinho: isn't there already one?15:05
didrockshttps://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/blob/master/snapcraft.yaml#L8515:05
Trevinhodidrocks, seb128: there's no desktop-gnome in there.. There's just gnome15:06
seb128Trevinho, which you don't like?15:06
Trevinho'gnome' only...15:06
Trevinhothe docs says use15:06
seb128there is also a 'gtk3' in there15:06
Trevinhodesktop-<platform>15:06
Trevinhowhich isn't true for that15:06
Trevinhoalso gtk3 isn't exported either as remote part15:06
didrocksgtk3 is internal for snapcraft to work15:07
Trevinhoso right now if you do snapcraft search you only find "gnome" because I've just added it to the wiki15:07
Trevinhobutt......15:07
didrocksit's desktop-gtk315:07
didrocksif you want to have all libs15:07
didrocksand "gnome"15:07
didrocksif you want to use the runtime15:07
didrockscorrect?15:07
Trevinhook, ok... so imho we should instead have in public "desktop-gnome", in wiki, but no "gnome" in the uaml15:08
Trevinhoyaml*15:08
didrocksah15:08
didrocksthis15:08
didrocksyeah, I tend to agree15:08
seb128I don't understand why there is a gtk3 and desktop-gtk315:08
seb128in fact I overlooked that when I added the gnome one15:08
didrocksseb128: you should thank snapcraft :p15:08
seb128I started from the top and didn't notice the desktop-gtk3 at the bottom15:08
didrocksit's the whole desktop/part_name15:08
didrockstransition15:08
seb128I though that those were subparts15:08
didrockswhen they removed afterwards the / in part15:09
seb128the / -> -15:09
Trevinhoin theory we shoud use "after:" for the renaming... it should works now15:09
seb128right?15:09
didrocksyes15:09
didrocksthey needed both or the importer was segfaulting15:09
didrocks(nice)15:09
seb128but yeah, I've no strong opinion on "gnome" or "desktop-gnome"15:09
didrockshum15:09
didrocksisn't that case confusing that desktop-gtk3 is "all libs embeeded"15:10
didrocksand desktop-gnome use the gnome platform?15:10
didrocksTrevinho: I would rather just transition, that's why I gave so much time for it15:10
didrocks(or those renaming magic should have been internal to snapcraft, not having to patch all parts)15:11
didrockscopying the same logic 3 times :(15:11
didrocksdesktop-gtk3 vs desktop-gnome, not confusing to you? If so, I'm happy to merge15:11
Trevinhodidrocks: I think that having15:11
Trevinhopartname oldname:15:11
Trevinho after: [goodone]15:11
Trevinhoshould work15:11
Trevinhoor... maybe it was something I wanted to do and I didn't finish? :o15:11
didrocksTrevinho: well, it's going to be removed, so knowing the fragility of the parser, I wouldn't give it a shot :)15:12
seb128should be easy to try15:12
Trevinhodidrocks: maybe desktop-gnome-runtime?15:12
didrocksyeah, that's more clear to me15:12
didrocksdekstop-gnome-runtime15:12
didrocksseb128: wdyt?15:12
Trevinhoor desktop-gnomeruntime15:12
Trevinhono bettr with dash..15:12
* didrocks likes the - version more15:12
seb128with the "-"15:12
Trevinhoversioning has to be included there?15:12
didrocks\o/15:12
seb128but it's slightly inconsistent15:12
didrocksno15:12
seb128which is annoying15:12
didrocksalways pull latest15:13
didrockswith Qt?15:13
seb128yes15:13
didrocksdesktop-ubuntu-app-platform:15:13
didrocksyeah15:13
didrocksplatform vs runtime15:13
seb128:-/15:13
didrockswell, you didn't all agree on the dir name to mount on already :p15:13
seb128which might be good15:14
seb128if one day it's possible to mount several contents15:14
seb128they don't conflict15:14
didrocksyeah, if I already get an answer to my email one day :)15:14
Trevinhoso... just give me the preferred remote part name and I'm updating the branch :-)15:15
TrevinhoI'm fine with both ways... but platform can be more consistent with qt imho15:15
didrocksshouldn't we at least all use "platform"?15:15
didrocksyeah15:15
didrocksI would go with desktop-gnome-platform for the part name15:15
didrocksseb128: agreed? ^15:15
Trevinhodesktop-ubuntu-desktop-app-platform15:16
Trevinhoor ubuntu-classic ?15:16
Trevinhoor ...15:16
seb128didrocks, I though you were the one that recommended using "runtime" before holidays when we discussed that15:16
* seb128 forgot the details15:16
seb128Trevinho, that's too long15:16
seb128imho15:16
Trevinhoagreedo, but we also have desktop-ubuntu-app-platform15:16
Trevinhofor touch apps15:16
seb128which is too long :p15:16
Trevinhosure... but consistency...15:16
didrocksseb128: I thought that was the other way around, but yeah, I was twisted in my brain due to circumstances :)15:16
didrocksdesktop-gnome-platform sounds good to app15:17
didrocksme*15:17
seb128wfm15:17
seb128I don't like the longer variants15:17
TrevinhoOk, me neither... it was just to make easier to understand15:17
seb128gnome-platform is easy enough imho15:18
didrockswithout desktop- ?15:18
didrocksor you meant desktop-gnome-platform?15:18
seb128desktop-gnome-platform15:18
didrocksok :)15:18
didrocksyeah, let's go with that15:18
seb128sorry15:18
seb128+115:18
didrocksshould we change all runtime by platform?15:19
didrockscontent: gnome318-runtime -> content: gnome318-platform?15:19
seb128what do you mean "all"?15:19
didrocksand so on?15:19
didrocks(meaning, it needs a new platform snap upload)15:19
didrocksTrevinho: there is the help on top that needs to be updated :)15:19
seb128it's also going to break existing snaps that use it?15:19
didrocksare there any?15:20
didrocksuploaded to the store?15:20
seb128no idea15:20
seb128how do one query the store asking for that?15:20
didrocksphilosophical questions I see :)15:20
seb128:-)15:20
didrockswe can be backward compatible15:20
didrockshaving 2 slots15:20
didrocksone being gnome318-runtime and the other gnome318-platform15:21
didrockswith the same definition, and just different content name15:21
didrocksI'm happy to do it if you want15:21
didrocks(as I really think the naming was my mistake)15:21
seb128if you want please do15:21
seb128otherwise I can have a look tomorrow15:21
didrocksdo you have the source handy?15:22
seb128I'm in middle of other things and we have a friend coming tonight for diner15:22
didrocksand you upload to a snap ppa?15:22
didrockswell, we can tackle this tomorrow15:22
seb128no ppa15:22
didrocksoh, so not all-arch?15:22
seb128?15:22
didrocksyou don't have non amd64 snaps?15:22
seb128I do15:22
didrocksor did you build them yourself and upload to the store?15:22
seb128it's built from a vcs on launchpad15:22
didrocksok15:22
didrocksthat's what I meant by "snap ppa"15:23
seb128i386/amd64/armhf15:23
didrocksok :)15:23
seb128ah15:23
didrockslet's do the platform one tomorrow morning15:23
didrocksTrevinho: mind preparing the PR?15:23
seb128good friday thing15:23
didrocksTrevinho: change the help, replace all runtime by platform15:23
didrocksyeah :)15:23
didrocksTrevinho: also, on top of help, you have "gnome is similar to…", replace the naming as well (and runtime name usage)15:23
Trevinhodidrocks: sure, it was already in the works :-)15:24
didrocks\o/15:26
b4nandyrock: any news on the a11y shortcus wrt. grabs?  anything I can do?15:44
b4nhey btw :)15:45
andyrocknot much to be honest, I've been busy with other things15:54
andyrockanother thing is that my solution required to open a new x11 Display15:54
andyrockand this can cause deadlocks15:54
andyrockand using the existing Display Connection does not work15:55
andyrockqengho: hey16:11
andyrockyou here?16:11
qenghoandyrock: hi16:11
andyrockhey I'm trying to build cr from source16:11
andyrockx11 + ozone16:12
qenghoCool.16:12
andyrockit builds but it fails to render properly16:12
andyrocki'm using Y16:12
andyrockwith this parameters16:12
andyrockhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/doHrlfLf/16:12
andyrockand running like that16:12
andyrock ./out/DefaultY/chrome --ozone-platform=x11 --mash --window-manager=simple_wm16:13
andyrockit starts but it fails to render16:13
andyrockqengho: ^^^16:14
Trevinhodidrocks: it should be all https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/4616:15
Trevinhoor maybe I missed something... :o16:15
qenghoandyrock: What happens with no parameters? --ozone.... ?16:15
didrocksTrevinho: still some changes needed16:16
didrocksTrevinho: see my comments16:16
* didrocks needs to go for some errands16:16
didrocksTrevinho: if you don't get to it, I can either finish it myself, anyway, won't merge before updating the platform snap16:16
b4nandyrock: oh :(16:16
Trevinhodidrocks: ok, also the wiki part should be separated or not?16:17
b4n(sorry missd your answer before)16:17
didrocksTrevinho: I don't think it should16:17
* didrocks already late, see you tomorrow guys!16:18
andyrockqengho: other errors16:18
Trevinhodidrocks: I'm not sure I see your comment in ...16:18
qenghoandyrock: I don't have any insight into enabling ozone specifically to use its X11 pathway. There is probably some reason it isn't the default renderer.16:19
qenghoandyrock: I can build and debug with you, if you like.16:20
andyrocki'm using vanilla cr16:21
andyrockmaybe I should use https://code.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/yakkety-working16:21
andyrockor something like that?16:21
andyrockqengho: ^^^16:22
qenghoandyrock: right. I'll replace all (or most) GN configuration with the one you pasted. Might take 30-45 minutes to build. ...16:22
andyrockcool thanks16:22
GunnarHjjbicha: I was about to give bug #1662031 a try, but Ubuntu GNOME zesty seems to be severely broken at the moment. (Can't open g-c-c or the power menu.) What's up?16:23
ubot5bug 1662031 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Switching language and format broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166203116:23
qenghoandyrock: Wait, are you asking because you expected the plain vanilla tree to work, or because you enabled something new but not exotic and it isn't working.16:27
andyrockbecause I expect the plain vanilla tree to work16:28
andyrock:D16:28
qenghoandyrock: and it didn't?16:28
andyrocknope16:28
qenghoAh! I thought I was debugging some ozone for you.16:28
GunnarHjseb128: Did you see this question:16:28
GunnarHjhttps://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/02/09/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t12:3916:28
GunnarHj?16:29
andyrockqengho: i'm following this16:29
andyrockhttps://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/lkgr/docs/linux_build_instructions.md16:29
andyrockshould this work?16:29
qenghoandyrock: v56 is a work in progress. Strip off the top changelog so the version is v55 and it plain chromium will work.16:30
andyrockI'll try that16:30
qenghoandyrock: Every version has its headaches. :\16:30
qenghoandyrock: I hope nobody told you chromium was easy. :P16:31
andyrockI can see from the size that's not easy16:31
andyrockalso it changes fast16:31
andyrockwhich one is the git tag?16:31
qenghopardon?16:32
andyrock55.0.2883.9916:32
andyrockfor v5516:32
andyrockqengho: i guess they use tags for versioning16:32
qenghoandyrock: They release tarballs every time they mark a version stable and I consume those directly, with no mutation.16:33
jbichaGunnarHj: it works here, uh can you try to run gnome-control-center from a terminal?16:38
seb128GunnarHj, oh, yeah but I didn't understand it and then got sidetracked by another ping sorry16:43
seb128GunnarHj, zesty opening shouldn't matter, translations are shared between serie when the strings are identic, when the serie was open doesn't matter I think16:44
GunnarHjseb128: My thought is that fresh upstream translations coming with zesty packages won't make it to xenial until zesty has opened. Maybe I'm missing something.16:47
jbichaGunnarHj: things work here, uh can you try to run gnome-control-center from a terminal?16:47
seb128that's true16:47
seb128GunnarHj, not sure many strings are untranslated in xenial and translated in zesty though16:47
GunnarHjseb128: Me neither. But it would be one reason for waiting with the xenial update a few weeks. Maybe there are reasons against too.16:48
GunnarHjjbicha: Tried that too, and the system froze.16:51
GunnarHjjbicha: (I'm not on Ubuntu GNOME atm.)16:51
seb128GunnarHj, I think we can do an upload, the zesty opening/import is going to take some time so that's for next round16:51
GunnarHjseb128: Ok, then the goal is to start the testing next week, right?16:52
jbichaGunnarHj: were you on bare hardware or virtualization?16:53
GunnarHjjbicha: Bare hardware, fully updated.16:53
seb128GunnarHj, yes16:53
jbichahmm, the xfont stuff did land today16:57
GunnarHjseb128: Ack. Updated the schedule:16:59
GunnarHjhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule16:59
seb128GunnarHj, thanks16:59
GunnarHjjbicha: I can't help much, probably, just wanted you to know.17:00
jbichathanks17:01
Trevinhoseb128: soo... who should create the  gnome-runtime folder now?17:15
Trevinhoseb128: as If i try to use a remote part it's not generated...17:16
Trevinhothus no errror because it's not mounted17:16
seb128Trevinho, didrocks and I are going to update the runtime snap tomorrow17:18
seb128but he called it a day17:18
seb128(which I'm about to do as well, we have a friend over for dinner)17:19
seb128Trevinho, oh, without the rename you mean? the consumer snap needs to create the dir17:20
seb128the content sharing bind mount needs the target to exist17:20
Trevinhoseb128: can't we rely on the remote part doing it?17:20
seb128no, your snap is a ro filesystem17:20
seb128oh, at build time17:20
TrevinhoI mean the remote part creates that not in runtime...17:20
seb128yeah, I did that in my workaround part in decembre17:21
seb128let's discuss it with Didier tomorrow17:21
Trevinhook17:23
Trevinhoas right now it fails to warn about the missing thing17:23
Trevinhoseb128: connecting doesn't always work, but... the remmina snap works in general... and it's just 11mb now17:30
willcookeright, to the train station.  night all17:47
Trevinhoseb128: would you mind to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/+junk/snap-gnome-udt@split-parts+indicators-support with yours?18:25
Trevinhoerr DT one (which... I still i'm not part of :-/)18:25
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