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naccmdeslaur: thanks for the poke, i uploaded 7.0.15 will work on the SRU tmrw AM01:21
naccmdeslaur: from your perspective, and given the decision in 16.04, do you have an opinion on what to do about php7.1 in 17.04?01:21
naccmdeslaur: it's in universe right now, and i believe is safely coinstallable with php7.0. But I'm not sure we want to have both be availabe01:22
naccrbasak: --^ may also have an opinion01:22
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countingdaisiesWhat are options for nomenclature of the files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled  ?? I'm wondering if, like /etc/hosts, I can just make up whatever naming scheme I want and how apache2 handles it when it looks for them?01:45
countingdaisiesis 000-*    the only format one could use?01:45
sarnoldmake sure the filenames end in .conf01:45
sarnoldthe numbers are just there to make it easy to sort01:46
countingdaisiessarnold: Right on. And, is there a reason that numbers are prefixed with the default naming?  (ie: 000-default.conf)?01:46
countingdaisiesI mean a practical reason one 'better' do it that way?01:47
sarnoldthe 'default' is just there so you know it's a default :)01:47
nacccountingdaisies: more than likely that is to ensure a particular order of loading01:47
countingdaisiesnacc: I see.01:47
countingdaisiesthx01:47
nacci'd have to verify in the init script, but that's typical, at least, and affects the globbing01:48
sarnolddidn't apache suck that into the daemon startup?01:48
naccsarnold: oh might be true, yeah01:48
mdeslaurnacc: meh, we definitely want it in 18.04, which means we probably want it in 17.10....but for 17.04, it's probably not worth the time trying to make sure everything is co-installable and works01:53
mdeslaurnacc: personally, I'd wait until 17.10 and then get rid of 7.001:54
naccmdeslaur: yeah, that's my thinking as well01:54
monokromeDoes anyone know if I can have a .xsession file in my home directory for my window manager? I am trying to avoid having it in /usr/share/xsessions/02:10
sarnoldmonokrome: hehe, yeah, your home dir is far more usual02:11
monokromesarnold:  I would think that, but everything I see online says to throw it in /usr/local/02:11
monokromeDo you know where it needs to be placed?02:11
sarnoldmonokrome: that might be just so an admin can give users happy defaults so they don't have to write their own02:12
sarnoldmonokrome: I can't recall if it is ~/.xsession or ~/.Xsession. It's been so long :/02:12
monokromeaaran: Well, usually you have to create a .xsession file in /usr/local/xsessions that points to ~/.xsession or whatever you want to call it02:13
monokromeand I'm trying to avoid creating the desktop entry in /usr/local02:13
sarnoldI thought all that was configured already in /etc/X11/Xsession*02:14
monokromeah02:14
monokromemaybe it's automatic now02:14
monokromewill try02:14
monokromeThanks :)02:14
monokromeWell, that didn't workl02:17
sarnoldyou may need to select something specific at the graphical login screen if you're using one02:18
monokromeThere aren't really any options in there02:21
monokromeI'm just using the default Ubuntu login screen02:21
monokromewhoa, sorry - I did *not* realize that I tabbed into #ubuntu-server instead of #ubuntu02:22
Seven_Six_Twookie dokie pokie. so I followed the nfs4 instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto  and still have the same problem. filesystem mounts rw, but I can't write to is..02:25
Seven_Six_Twono errors. /etc contains the lines:  /export192.168.168.0/24(rw,fsid=0,no_subtree_check,sync)02:26
Seven_Six_Two /export/www 192.168.168.0/24(rw,nohide,no_subtree_check,sync)02:26
Seven_Six_Twoand I mount the child explicitly.02:27
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Seven_Six_Twough. I wish documentation was better for NFSv4. Here's where I'm at.03:47
Seven_Six_Twohttps://paste.ubuntu.com/23958578/03:47
Seven_Six_Twoany NFSv4 pro out there? I can mount, but I can't write.03:48
Seven_Six_Twouid gid on client and server match. /etc/idmapd.conf contains domains on both (but not in pastebin for server. it's there!)03:50
naccSeven_Six_Two: what happens when you try to write?03:51
Seven_Six_Twotouch: cannot touch 'text.txt': Permission denied03:52
naccSeven_Six_Two: can you cd to the mount point and ls?03:53
Seven_Six_Twoyes03:53
naccSeven_Six_Two: ok, then most likely, the denial is being issued by the server03:53
naccSeven_Six_Two: i believe nfs can/does log stuff?03:53
Seven_Six_TwoI don't know. I can't find anything03:53
naccSeven_Six_Two: also, trying to understand, but would the uid on the server be able to write to /export?03:54
Seven_Six_Twono, but that's not the root, not the folder that I'm trying to write to03:55
Seven_Six_Two*that's the root03:55
naccSeven_Six_Two: ok, then /export/www03:55
Seven_Six_Twoso, no. /export/www is root.root03:56
naccSeven_Six_Two: right, so how would you be able to write to it over NFS?03:57
naccSeven_Six_Two: i don't know much about it, but that's where i'd start, at least03:57
Seven_Six_Twoit's actually a subfolder of that, owned by www-data.www-data that I'm trying to write to03:57
nacceven that, though, unless you modify the permissions on it, won't generically be writeable over NFS, aiui03:58
Seven_Six_Twook, I'm not sure how to change it, and it's bind mounted03:58
naccor you need to do some swizzling, maybe03:58
Seven_Six_TwoI changed the subfolder and all contents to g+rwX03:58
patdk-lapyou setup kerberos?03:59
Seven_Six_Twono03:59
Seven_Six_Twono kerberos03:59
Seven_Six_Twotrying to use uid gid03:59
patdk-lapnot sure nfs4 will work right for security without it03:59
naccSeven_Six_Two: i might be wrong on my point, as NFS4 has changed it signifcantly03:59
patdk-lapbut then, I have only played with nfs4 on solaris03:59
naccSeven_Six_Two: were you following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto03:59
Seven_Six_Twoyes. that's one that I started with04:00
naccSeven_Six_Two: i note that you have not set 'sec=sys' in both places04:00
naccSeven_Six_Two: from the client, what are the permissions on the directoryou want to write to (`ls -ahl`) ?04:01
Seven_Six_Twodrwxrwxr-x 10 www-data www-data04:02
naccSeven_Six_Two: and is your user either www-data or in the group www-data?04:02
naccSeven_Six_Two: and note that help.ubuntu.com page tells you how to enable logging, which seems like something you should do04:03
Seven_Six_Twonacc, I think I skipped sec=sys because a bit later on, it says "They do not work", which I took to mean sec=sys in both places does not work. It looks like the guide has had multiple edits04:03
naccSeven_Six_Two: you have it on, in your client04:03
Seven_Six_Twointeresting. I see that. It isn't in my mount command04:04
naccSeven_Six_Two: i believe if you set sec=sys on your client, then it will use local uid/gid to determine permissions04:04
Seven_Six_Twoand I don't see where to put that in the server04:04
naccSeven_Six_Two: and if you are doing this as the 'fathead' user (based upon mountpoint), then you probably don't have appropriate permissions to write to the directory04:05
Seven_Six_Twoso it's set, and uid and gid match04:05
Seven_Six_TwoI added fathead to www-data group on client04:05
naccSeven_Six_Two: are you logged in as that user?04:05
Seven_Six_Twoyes04:05
naccSeven_Six_Two: did you logout & login after the group change?04:05
Seven_Six_Tworebooted04:05
Seven_Six_TwoI hit that wall yesterday  ;)04:06
Seven_Six_Twouid=1000(fathead) gid=1000(fathead) groups=1000(fathead),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),33(www-data),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),110(sambashare),1001(realtime)04:06
naccSeven_Six_Two: well, i'd start by adding the logging as on that page and see if it's client or server-side denial04:07
naccSeven_Six_Two: and then https://workaround.org/articlenfs-secsys-or-ruin-your-day/ this sort of implies it's a pain...04:07
naccSeven_Six_Two: sorry, i'm done for the day, gl! hopefully others can ehlp04:07
Seven_Six_Twothanks a lot nacc!04:08
patdk-lapwhy if you want something this basic, I would just recommend using nfs304:09
Seven_Six_Twobecause I've made a bunch of changes, and I'm afraid that if I try to revert, I'll forget one, and get even more frustrated.04:10
patdk-lapthat isn't hard04:10
Seven_Six_TwoI mount nfsv3 shares, so I know it works04:10
patdk-lapnfs3 doesn't understand all that stuff or use it, so it will be ignored :)04:10
patdk-lapbut if the goal is to use nfs4, sure04:11
Seven_Six_Twono. the goal is to make it work, and I guess my client assumed nfsv4 so I kept going on that road.04:11
patdk-lapyes, nfs4 has been the default for awhile04:12
Seven_Six_Twodamn. nothing in the logs showing an error either.04:16
Seven_Six_Twook. I'll try to switch back.04:16
Seven_Six_Twodo I have to unbind the directory?04:16
countingdaisiesI had no idea apache was this easy nor that it gave you such a deep level of control. Ya'all are a lifesaver for real.04:20
countingdaisiesSomeone else did that for me years ago with file paths and how that works and it opened up a whole new level for me bc of the one little conversation. Super cool.04:22
Seven_Six_Twoso I think I've reverted everything. when I try to mount the nfs export using -t nfs04:29
Seven_Six_Twoit still mounts nfsv4. and -t nfs3 isn't an option like nfs404:30
Seven_Six_Twohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo   even using NFS Client settings, instead of NFSv4 Client settings mounts as nfs4.04:33
patdk-lapvers=304:43
patdk-lapyou also likely didn't setup the server to reject v4 connections04:44
Seven_Six_Twono I don't think I did. I came across a blog that mentioned it, but the entirety of the instructions seemed overblown04:44
patdk-laphttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216066304:45
Seven_Six_TwoI'm using nfs3 using fstab where it's explicit. It's strange that that option isn't mentioned in mount manpage or any other nfs setup guide04:45
patdk-lapit's an option, vers=304:45
patdk-lapI'm using nfsvers=304:46
Seven_Six_Twooh that page. yeah, I didn't do that because I didn't need it for current mounts (but version is in fstab)04:46
patdk-lapin fstab: nfs.server.... /var/... nfs noatime,rw,nfsvers=3,rsize=131072,wsize=131072,hard,intr04:46
Seven_Six_Twoand there was no confirmation that it works. and it's 4 years old04:46
patdk-lapoh, add on also _netdev04:46
patdk-lapwell that is easy to verify, man rpc.mountd04:47
Seven_Six_Twoyeah, I have it in fstab for my server, but I've had problems with long filesystem hangs when nfs mounts aren't available, and since this is a vm, putting mount in fstab seemed like a bad plan.04:47
patdk-lapnobootwait04:47
Seven_Six_TwoI've had nautilus not list files in my home folder when nfs mounts aren't there.04:48
Seven_Six_Twook, I'll look in to those. I saw _netdev on one tutorial04:48
patdk-lapyou need _netdev04:48
patdk-lapnobootwait would depend on useage04:49
patdk-lapwait for nfs mount to work, during boot04:49
Seven_Six_Twodo I just put _netdev in fstab?04:49
patdk-lapor skip04:49
patdk-lapyes04:49
Seven_Six_Twooh my. It finally works!05:01
Seven_Six_TwoIt only took me hours longer than it should have.05:01
Seven_Six_Twothanks for your input patdk-lap05:01
* Seven_Six_Two closes a thousand tabs, and turns music back on.05:02
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countingdaisiesDoes anyone know what to do?  http://imgur.com/a/jxmNu06:33
countingdaisiesI think I'm supposed to use apt-get to solve this one, but I need some clarification. Any help would really be appreciated.06:34
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countingdaisiesAnd it isn't clear to me what packages it's saying are missing (as in the exact package names)06:35
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alkisgcountingdaisies: since eramba isn't an ubuntu package, I would assume it's not supported in the ubuntu channels, but in their own channels...06:36
alkisgDon't they have any irc channels or forums or mailing lists to ask?06:37
countingdaisiesalkisg: check it out, no they don't, not at all. They have very little documentation, what there is is glossed over (expected base knowledge is a bit high for me), it's a php application (which involves apache and mysql), and have very very little exper with any of them. This, eramba, is GRC software and is the only open source GRC software that I can find (probably is the only 'foss' one in...06:42
countingdaisies...existance). I perceive it is a very very good application, but I need some help to get over the bumps on this. The ubuntu apache package is unique to ubuntu (ie: different than upstream) - that's what I'm told when I as questions in #httpd (and mysql is the same).  Are over 400 users logged into this chanel being forbidden to address my question?06:42
countingdaisiesMow I've been going in circles with this application for several weeks now - what exactly am I expected to do (other than what I'm doing right now)?06:43
alkisgcountingdaisies: http://www.eramba.org/resources/enterprise-services/06:44
countingdaisies#ubuntu explicitly advised to come to this chanel with these questions earlier tonight06:44
alkisgI see they have support contracts there06:44
countingdaisiesI know06:44
alkisgWell, that's how they are supposed to keep development going06:44
countingdaisiesalkisg: if you don't want to talk about it then don't06:44
countingdaisieslet someone else then06:44
* lynorian has never used that software06:45
countingdaisiesnow I asked a very direct question: "Are over 400 users logged into this chanel being forbidden to address my question?"06:45
cpaelzercountingdaisies: it isn't the most used software, so experience with it might be low06:45
samba35today i update my 16.04.1(for some package 16.04.1 is update long time back from 16.04 ) after update openvswitch is behaving very rude :( ,after every boot config setting is lost ,need to reconfigure every time06:45
countingdaisiescause then maybe the mod in #ubuntu would wonder why when he gave me explicit direction to come to this chanel with these questions06:45
countingdaisiesno damit06:45
lynoriancountingdaisies, no they are not forbidden to address your question sometimes people just might not know06:46
cpaelzercountingdaisies: there was no experience there and he likely had hoped that the server folks might know06:46
cpaelzercountingdaisies: no bad things in that06:46
countingdaisiescpaelzer: I only ever asked permission to ask the question (0bbiously I have to fight to be a part of the community)06:47
cpaelzercountingdaisies: did you follow that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmxdBCLmk9c to get to your failing dependency checks?06:47
samba35cpaelzer: Hallo morning06:47
cpaelzercountingdaisies: you never have to ask for permission to ask, but OTOH you can neither force an answer - especiall in a topic that only a super-low percentage has experience with06:47
cpaelzerhi samba3506:48
samba35is there was some update for openvswitch today/yesterday06:48
cpaelzercountingdaisies: I must smile comparing your rant on their documentation and seeing on the eramba website "the installation procedure has been well documented on our website"06:48
cpaelzersamba35: which release?06:48
samba3516.04.106:48
countingdaisiescpaelzer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt6IQ4Kf8HM  and  https://github.com/ivuk/eramba-vagrant/blob/master/eramba_deploy.sh   are what I used, now I'm trying to work through the specific problems reported but unsure what they mean06:49
countingdaisiesand the documentation on their site (I forgot)06:50
alkisg(08:44:39 πμ) countingdaisies: alkisg: if you don't want to talk about it then don't ==> I can't talk about it because I've never used it; I was just trying to help you in finding the correct place to get help. If you don't want that kind of help, I'll gladly stop trying to help you that way.06:53
cpaelzercountingdaisies: I never touched eramab, but skimming over their doc appears to me to be bound on very old dependencies06:53
cpaelzercountingdaisies: e.g. look at Operating System Specs at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vxh1knFcB6_ZVPUF4hy9i5XafIR3BijoZffCL_vjRVU/edit06:53
cpaelzerphp7 not supported06:53
cpaelzerMaybe the doc is outdated, but that is what they link still06:54
lynoriancpaelzer, yeah that can easily happen for people to forget to update documentation06:54
countingdaisiesalkisg: no offense. It's something I consider to be a barrier to finding the help I need. Again, no offense, just a sensitive spot for me06:55
countingdaisiescpaelzer: I had to downgrade to php506:55
cpaelzeryeah--06:55
countingdaisiesI think the community edition is the prev edition06:55
lynorianyes they have not updated the application to php 7 I think06:55
countingdaisiesIt was/is my only hope to ever use this type of software as i probably will never afford the cost associated with grc software.06:56
cpaelzercountingdaisies: I'd expect that their other deps are on an older level as well - and no matter how unreadable their check is - for know not knowing better, I'd assume that06:57
cpaelzercountingdaisies: have you tried to set up on a ubuntu 14.0406:57
cpaelzer?06:57
countingdaisiesCould the dependency (eg: curl libraries  for example) be missing from within the application (rather than ubuntu)?06:57
cpaelzercountingdaisies: my reading is that the system either doesn't have or has only incompatible libs/plugins of these06:58
countingdaisiescpaelzer: I haven't. I suppose I would save that for a last ditch option though06:58
cpaelzercountingdaisies: any chance you can read german - that seems straight forward (on 14.04) https://hpz.eu/blog/installation-von-eramba-auf-ubuntu-14-04/06:58
countingdaisiescpaelzer: by "system" what do you think is being referred to? eramba? Ubuntu? Apache? or mysql?06:59
cpaelzercountingdaisies: system = the operating system and its binraies/libraries06:59
countingdaisiescpaelzer: maybe 2 words  :)06:59
countingdaisiescpaelzer: huge. ty, now I know 'where' to solve the problem06:59
countingdaisiesty so much07:00
cpaelzercountingdaisies: autotranslate  is even kind of usable https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fhpz.eu%2Fblog%2Finstallation-von-eramba-auf-ubuntu-14-04%2F07:01
cpaelzercountingdaisies: I'd take the original to copy examples/configs to make sure not to get translations in there07:02
countingdaisiescpaelzer: right on07:04
samba35cpaelzer: if there was no update for openvswitch ,then how do diagnose or fix config lost issue07:07
cpaelzersamba35: I can't tell you what happened, I only checked and there was no new OVS release for Xenial as far as I could see07:09
samba35ic07:09
cpaelzersamba35: what config was lost - a file back to original content?07:10
samba35when u run ovs-vsctl show out is just two line /defualt line of version07:11
cpaelzerhm, that is in a db of ovsdb - I've even see that survive uninstalls/reinstalls07:12
cpaelzersamba35: I once realized that when removing the bridge all childs go away as well - might there be a chance such a thing happened for you?07:13
samba35but every boot ?07:14
samba35why config should lost and this happen today only07:14
samba35it was working fine till yesterday07:15
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh_: hi, the last qemu update for bug 1656480 seems to cause issues07:20
ubottubug 1656480 in qemu (Ubuntu Xenial) "QEMU Does not Send L2 Broadcasts After Live Migration" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165648007:20
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh_: I don't really think it is the update - as the errors are in a totally different place07:20
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh_: it more seems like people testing new ARM HW to me07:21
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh_: yet we have these checks to be extra careful07:21
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh_: https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2016.04&package=qemu&period=day&version=1%3A2.5%2Bdfsg-5ubuntu10.807:21
Dmitrii-Sh_cpaelzer: hmm, any bug id?07:21
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh_: I'll forward you the automated mail I got - it is just the #errors tracker that kicked in07:21
Dmitrii-Sh_cpaelzer: ok07:21
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh_: mail should be in your inbox07:22
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Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: got it, I'm going to have a look now07:23
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: I submitted a form to view error report data btw - not sure who marks this for approval07:30
cpaelzerI don't know either - the bot is from barry - maybe mail him?07:34
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: I can see that errors were triggered in the page translation code though07:34
cpaelzeryeah, that is what I ,eant  that I expect them to be not related07:34
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: not sure if that code path is even invoked07:34
cpaelzerack07:34
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: 2 notes07:35
cpaelzernew arm  HW being tested is my guess07:35
cpaelzerand just happen to match the SRU by timing07:35
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: 1 - 16.10 had the same failure which contains this fix but from the upstream07:35
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: 2 - we should check x86_64 or any other arch as well07:35
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: ack07:36
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rbasaknacc: I don't like the idea of shipping two versions. If too late to switch to 7.1 in main, I think we should remove it from universe and do the transition next cycle.08:40
rbasakProbably less important for a non-LTS though08:40
rbasakstretch isn't about to ship with both, is it?08:40
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Geommayu i know what is the cobinary command for build a .deb from source?09:25
Geomcobinary=binary*09:25
cpaelzerGeom: not exactly sure where you question is going to - debuild ?09:27
cpaelzerGeom: https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial09:27
Geomthe link is perfect. thanks cpaelzer09:28
cpaelzeryw09:28
Geommy first ever deb is done… thanks again cpaelzer09:44
cpaelzerGeom: a pleasure to help, for better reliable builds if you do it more often I'd look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/BuildEnvironment09:46
cpaelzerGeom: but one step at a time - gz for your first deb!09:46
GeomNoted! :)09:49
bluekingI am trying to get connection between tagged vlan on nic/ubuntu to vlan tagged  on switch  but no connection  the default vlan id 1 untagged works on switch-nic(ubuntu)10:15
cpaelzerrbasak: could you run the importer on dovecot so it can fetch latest Debian and give me a ping afterwards?10:26
bluekingdoes it matter if auto bond0.100  iface bond0.100 inet static  vlan-raw-device bond0  or  auto vlan100  iface vlan100 inet static    ?10:30
bluekingdoes it matter if auto bond0.100  iface bond0.100 inet static  vlan-raw-device bond0  or  auto vlan100  iface vlan100 inet static vlan-raw-device bond0   ?10:30
bluekingproblem get box online on vlan10010:31
bluekingI can ping interface on that given ip on vlan100  but  not to router on same vlan10:32
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DK2what does the server trying to load when it hangs at "Booting." ?11:53
DK2its stuck there forever11:53
DK2is grub missing?11:54
cpaelzerjamespage: wanted to check with you are ok with me enabling openvswitch-swicth-dpdk for bug 1663206?12:16
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1663206 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1663206). The error has been logged12:16
jamespagecpaelzer, go for it12:16
cpaelzerjamespage: ok12:17
cpaelzerjamespage: I expect it might hang on migration the same neturon test that zul is on already, but content wise I have it ready12:17
cpaelzeruploading after some tests12:17
rbasakcpaelzer: dovecot imported12:24
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cpaelzerrbasak: thanks13:05
cpaelzerrbasak: just reviewed squid merge13:05
cpaelzerrbasak: there are a few open points, let me know if you want to discuss any of them13:05
rbasakcpaelzer: thank you! I replied in the MP.13:28
cpaelzerrbasak: hmm not seeing the reply on the MP13:29
* cpaelzer is hitting F5 over and over13:30
rbasakHmm.13:30
cpaelzerrbasak: did you reply by mail and LP might need a minute to pick it up?13:30
rbasakI replied by email.13:30
rbasakYeah, maybe!13:30
rbasakcpaelzer: stop being so efficient :-P13:30
cpaelzerhey I got so much done the last 24 hours - I could almost forget the 48 hours before where evything was §$%&/13:31
rbasak:)13:37
cpaelzerrbasak: hey could you throw your experienced LP-eyeballs at liblockfile for me?14:46
cpaelzerrbasak: I did a syncpackage yesterday after I sorted out remaining open points14:46
cpaelzerrbasak: but I can't find it anywhere (neither passed, nor proposed, nor on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liblockfile)14:47
cpaelzerrbasak: as if it would have been a no-op14:47
clvxHi all, I want to know if there's a difference between choosing automatics over no automatics update at installation time on Ubuntu Server Xenial?.14:47
naccrbasak: correct, stretch only has 7.0; 7.1 is only in unstable14:47
clvxThis is because I have 2 vm's where one has automatic updates enabled and the other doesn't. Both have unattended-upgrades package installed, and pretty much the same config in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ . You can see the dump of the config files of both machines here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23960844/14:48
cpaelzerclvx: the if is auto-updates yes/no :-) do you mean if you can enable it later?14:48
cpaelzerclvx: I see, and one of them does not update as the other does?14:49
clvxSo, I'm concerned if there's a difference, because the config files are identical.14:49
clvxcpaelzer: both do the updates.14:50
cpaelzerclvx: I'd think not, but you might need an d-i expert to answer if they do any extra twists there14:57
rbasakcpaelzer: I'd expect it in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liblockfile/+publishinghistory or in the "Latest upload" section. I see no trace either.14:58
rbasakPerhaps it was a Launchpad error that the syncpackage tool didn't detect?14:58
rbasakI don't recall if a sync leads to a confirmation email or not.14:59
cpaelzerrbasak: under the circumstances I'd run it again with verbose enabled14:59
rbasakI see no harm in trying to run it again.14:59
clvxcpaelzer: I'll open a question in askubuntu and wait for something. Thanks for your time.14:59
cpaelzerclvx: sorry I couldn't help more15:00
cpaelzerclvx: in fact I thought this is my chance for a reason to d-i code, but I couldn#t find a direct pointer15:00
cpaelzerin the source to the auto updates15:00
cpaelzerrbasak: this time I got a normal accept email15:01
cpaelzercan check on migration tomorrow then15:01
zulcoreycb: is the dashboard stuff in git?16:32
coreycbzul, yeah16:38
countingdaisiesI have this application I installed on 16.04 but its telling me there's a problem with curl libraries --> http://imgur.com/a/jxmNu     sudo dpkg -l | grep curl   gives the following result -->  http://imgur.com/a/jxmNu   Is there any way to tell more precisely what the problem is?17:03
compdochow did you install eramba?17:07
compdocnormally, apt resolves dependecies17:07
countingdaisiescompdoc: sorry, was off looking for answers answers. I use a combination of the only 3 decent information I could find: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt6IQ4Kf8HM    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vxh1knFcB6_ZVPUF4hy9i5XafIR3BijoZffCL_vjRVU/edit    and    https://github.com/ivuk/eramba-vagrant/blob/master/eramba_deploy.sh  Last night someone showed me some web page in German on it (I...17:19
countingdaisies...don't speak German) but they ran it through a translator   https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fhpz.eu%2Fblog%2Finstallation-von-eramba-auf-ubuntu-14-04%2F    (but I'm running 16.04).17:19
countingdaisiesThere are several issues with it and I'm not sure the best one to pick fix first (sometimes fixing one thing solves the others - if you get the right one). So I just tried to pick something concrete (one concrete problem its showing me) and ask help for it.17:20
countingdaisiescompdoc: One of the issues is that this (community edition) is the old version (you pay for the up to date one). Probably it's his first beta and never updated it after that. I had to (try to) downgrade to php5 and I think that it generally can only run with old versions of stuff (libraries, etc).17:23
compdocsorry, on the phone with a customer. their internet is down17:25
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BrianBlaze420I am trying to install an older version of ubuntu onto a tower so I can update a server on the side and not effect the production server19:28
powersjnacc: can I please get you to import nagios-nrpe19:28
BrianBlaze420my issue is I can't get passed the detect and mount cd19:28
BrianBlaze420I am booting via cd lol19:29
BrianBlaze420also I tried booting from usb same issue19:29
BrianBlaze420how can I get around that19:29
naccpowersj: running19:29
powersjnacc: thank you sir19:29
sarnoldBrianBlaze420: what error message do you get?19:35
BrianBlaze420Unable to detect cd-rom drive select device19:43
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BrianBlaze420normally when I got this message I booted from usb and then had an install disc in the cd rom drive to get around this19:44
BrianBlaze420but it's not working and can't detect my cd-rom which it is booted off of lol19:44
BrianBlaze420to make it worse i have no commands to actually see the drives in the console19:46
BrianBlaze420and when I do an ls of /dev there are too many and none look like a cdrom drive19:46
sarnoldhrm I don't have any systems with cdrom drives installed19:51
sarnoldit makes it a bit hard to figure out what to suggest if I can't test first :)19:51
sarnoldlsblk perhaps? dmesg | grep sd perhaps?19:51
BrianBlaze420it's busybox19:52
BrianBlaze420so lsblk, fdisk lsusb19:52
BrianBlaze420 do not work :'(19:52
BrianBlaze420all it sees is my hdd installed in the tower :(19:52
BrianBlaze420with dmesg19:52
BrianBlaze420the irritating thing is I get the same message when I try with a usb19:53
naccls -ahl /dev/disk ?19:53
naccerr, /dev/disk/by-path19:54
BrianBlaze420it only sees sda... which is my hddd19:55
BrianBlaze420weird19:55
BrianBlaze420especially weird because it boots from cd and usb lol19:56
BrianBlaze420without issues it's just when it's trying to detect a cd-rpm19:56
BrianBlaze420cd-rom*19:56
sarnoldyou could try setting a pxe booting environment instead; set up a tftp server with install media, setup a dhcp server to point to it, and go that way. I've done that before when I didn't have spare usb flash drive laying around to do an install19:57
BrianBlaze420it just makes no sense to me that I have to do weird work arounds when I can boot from cd's and usb's no problem even this ubuntu install works up until it needs to detect the cd rom... I will have to do a pxe20:00
sarnoldI wonder..20:01
sarnoldsometimes bioses can be set to do silly things with the storage20:01
sarnoldmaybe treating the sata ports as pata compatibility or using a raid setup rather than ahci or who knows what20:01
sarnoldmaybe a few minutes in the bios first would save you the hassle of pxeing?20:02
BrianBlaze420true20:03
BrianBlaze420thanks for putting thoughts in my brain20:03
BrianBlaze420u r a genius sarnold20:05
BrianBlaze420of cours it was a bios setting lol20:05
BrianBlaze420thanks very much20:05
BrianBlaze420lol20:05
sarnoldgreat! :D20:05
sarnoldmuch easier than goofing around with pxe and tftp and dhcp20:05
sarnoldnot that that's terrible20:05
BrianBlaze420I know right20:05
sarnoldbut this is way eaiser20:06
BrianBlaze420but it's a good idea to have20:06
BrianBlaze420one thing at a time tho :)20:06
naccpowersj: done20:06
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tewardanyone got a Yakkety server that isn't a production-critical system, and want to help me test something quickly?21:15
tewardsarnold: ^ relevant if only because PIE may have blown stuff up in nginx Stable for Yakkety21:15
rbasakNo, but "lxc launch ubuntu:yakkety"? :)21:15
tewardassuming lxc was installed21:16
tewardi think i removed it at one point...21:16
rbasakWhy?21:17
tewardbecause it fubard networking for a time21:17
rbasakHmm.21:18
tewarddefault put it on a conflict subnet21:18
tewardso i had to remove the bridge21:18
rbasakThe latest lxd packaging works hard to avoid conflicting I think.21:18
tewardNOW i can fix it heh21:18
tewardrbasak: 16.04 fresh install21:18
tewardwasn't as kind.21:18
tewardit also won't detect other VLANs :P21:18
tewardit was in conflict with my DMZ subnet21:18
tewardwhere DNS on my network sits21:18
rizonzI have a /19 which I use where a server has a 172.16.2.11 on eht0 and a 172.16.13.11 on eth1, all outbound traffic needs to go over eth0 and local over eth1... issue when my routers are in 172.16.0.248/2921:26
rizonzor not ?21:27
sarnoldrizonz: I don't know how to configure your setup but this guide will teach you how to make the kernel do what you need http://lartc.org/howto/21:55
sarnoldrizonz: translating that into configuration files so it's still set the next reboot may take more work still21:55
rizonzsarnold: there is no nextboot issue22:00
tomreynrizonz: you can pointopoint the 172.16.2.11 to your router22:18
tomreynlike this https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Netzkonfiguration_Debian/en#Dedicated_Servers22:20
tomreynit's ugly but it works22:20
rizonztomreyn: why is it ugly ?22:32
tomreynwell the netmask is 255.255.255.25522:33
tomreyneither your ip address and that of your gateway is formally / logically outside of that ;)22:34
tomreyns/ and / or /22:35
rizonzmeh22:36
rizonzdoesn't work22:36
rizonzsarnold: should it be possible ?23:12
sarnoldrizonz: just about anything is possible23:13
sarnoldrizonz: you may need to insert direct routes to your routers if they aren't reachable via the subnet routing rules you've already got23:13
rizonzsarnold: true but this is weird that my ping stops on my eth0 when I do my /19 route on my eth123:13
rizonzwhen I traceroute on the box, all traffic floats out on eth023:14
sarnold'ip route get' may help you understand what the machine is doing23:14
rizonzfixed :)23:17
sarnoldgreat :)23:18
rizonzsarnold: needed the route to my router on the eth023:20

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