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daftykinsthar we go more places are reporting intel shipping bad Atom C2000s and keeping it quiet, now02:06
zmoylan-piwhoopsie02:07
kn1ghtw0rkmorning peeps08:04
SuperMattg'day08:27
davmor2Morning all09:08
foobarry_http://askubuntu.com/questions/761180/wifi-doesnt-work-after-suspend-after-16-04-upgrade seems to affect quite a few ppl09:16
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Safer Internet Day! 😃09:38
brobostigonmorning boys and girls09:50
diploMorning all09:52
brobostigonmorning09:54
popeyfoobarry_: yeah10:48
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs safest song on the planet :)11:04
diploAnyone here an ansible user ?15:10
diploTrying to svn+ssh on a new install, want to use a priv key fron my machine ( already put pub on svn server )15:11
diploTrying to svn+ssh on a new install, want to use a priv key fron my machine ( already put pub on svn server )15:13
diplooops focus on wrong screen :P15:13
diploFixed it (need to except the key manually, need to work around that now! ) and also help is you type /var/www and not /var/wwww15:23
diddledanpopey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4M_0_UUYAE_LNe.jpg:large15:26
popeydiddledan: haha, love that15:34
diddledanlol, I didn't mean to target that to you, was meant as a general for everyone :-p15:34
diddledanoops @ tabfail15:35
daftykinseat both!15:35
daftykinsyay my mums boot-looping LG G4 is going back under a 2 year warranty15:35
diddledandaftykins: what does bear taste like?15:35
daftykinsit's the CPU cores desoldering apparently15:35
diddledan\o/15:35
diddledanI've got an intel ATOM cpu which is gonna have to go back when asrock acknowledge the problem (it's a flaw in the atom that causes complete failure after 18 or so months of use)15:36
diddledanref: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/06/cisco_intel_decline_to_link_product_warning_to_faulty_chip/15:37
daftykinsja, whats yours in?15:37
diddledanon an asrock mobo15:37
diddledanself-build nas15:37
daftykinsSFF PC though or wha?15:37
daftykinsoic15:38
diddledanthis jobbie: http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=C2750D4I15:38
daftykinsfunky15:39
ali123418 months? that's terrible. loads of people will just think it died without knowing why15:40
diddledanyeah15:40
daftykinswell it's in the docs now15:41
ali1234hey popey, i just found out about your "double click URl in gnome-terminal" problem16:55
ali1234xfce4-terminal and terminator have a setting for double click chars, it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/n9cvqqc.png16:55
ali1234they both include ":" so it matches the whole URL16:55
ali1234gnome-terminal either removed this setting or never had it, and they don't include ":" in their defaults16:56
ali1234but looks like you can change it directly in the dconf: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/290544/double-click-selection-in-gnome-terminal16:57
Laneyor right click and copy url17:39
davmor2or right click and open url :)17:44
Laneydepends what you want to do17:57
davmor2Laney: indeed17:58
marshmnI don't know much about "WiFi Direct"; but I have a printer that supports it; what I'd like to know is, if I have a laptop connected to regular WiFi - and then I want to print from the printer using WiFi Direct, does that mean I'll have to drop my regular WiFi connection in order to do that?17:59
* Laney copies davmor2 to the clipboard17:59
marshmnI'm assuming that it works by the printer having it's on WiFi AP in it basically?18:00
marshmnperhaps if I plug a USB WiFi dongle into the laptop then I can have two WiFi connections - one to the regular WiFi and one to the WiFi Direct printer?18:00
daftykinsmarshmn: yes you have to hop network18:01
marshmnok18:01
davmor2NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO18:01
daftykinsbut if the printer has this feature, can it not just go *on* your wifi network?18:01
daftykinsbecause that'd be more common...18:02
marshmndaftykins: yes, that's possible - I'm just trying to understand the options right now; it's a mobile printer so there is the additional hassle of having to get that added to the WiFi network at the venue (as well as laptop etc.)18:03
marshmnbut it's certainly an option18:03
daftykinsif you did employ a USB wifi dongle, you could use the packages that let you run one as an access point - then have the printer configured to join that18:03
marshmnyeah, was also thinking that18:04
daftykinsthen instead of you hopping to the printer, the printer joins you (when the device is plugged in)18:04
marshmnyeah18:04
marshmnI think I might go that way18:04
daftykinsthough i'd sooner put a cable in18:04
marshmnwhich is another option :)18:04
diddledanI always shove my dongle in ports18:04
marshmnyou should ask permission first18:06
daftykins^ and at least buy dinner18:06
diddledanwhen is pulseaudio getting put into systemd? *duck*19:33
diddledanI just heard tar is getting put in now (ref: bsdnow)19:34
diddledanit's gonna be called tard19:34
davmor2diddledan: man we just need and is command and we can time travel19:36
diddledanlol19:36
diddledanalso is wayland getting put in systemd yet?19:37
diddledangiant lizards are invading: https://twitter.com/spookperson/status/82977739203818291319:43
popeyali1234: yeah, they removed it :(19:44
popeysilly rabbits19:44
davmor2diddledan: that's not a lizard that's just a really bad rendition of snakes on a plane where the sfx guy need to scale down the snake19:45
popeyali1234: that worked, magic, thank you :)19:45
ali1234popey: i just mentioned it to some xfce terminal devs cos they were discussing https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=85458519:46
lubotu3Debian bug 854585 in evilvte "evilvte: Allows executing (unexpected) commands via mouse-clicks" [Important,Open]19:46
ali1234apparently it does not affect xfce4-terminal as they used the url regex from gnome-terminal19:46
ali1234and they told me about the double click chars thing19:47
ali1234funny bug though... arbitrary code execution by clicking on a url19:47
popeyoops19:59
ali1234and that's why you don't right click -> open i suppose20:00
diddledandid ubuntubsd die? https://www.ubuntubsd.org/21:05
daftykinscheck the channel?21:07
* diddledan looks-out over the solent21:07
diddledanthere's a lot of seafog21:08
* daftykins waves a flag on the northern tip of the island21:08
diddledanaren't you supposed to flash a torch in a special pattern?21:08
daftykinswell that proved to be too distracting to the series of opera singers which stand on the coastline singing out to provide our off-island data links21:09
diddledanlmao21:10
diddledanI thought they were for when it's foggy21:10
daftykinsthey're the upgrade to the fires, yip21:13
daftykinsthe torch batteries were proving prohibitively expensive21:14
zmoylan-pipfft, in ireland in 70s we tried nuclear batteries for our lighthouses... :-)21:21
zmoylan-pigood enough for space probes, good enough for remote unoccupied wastelands21:21
diddledangreen light21:21
diddledanwhy is green assumed for radiation/toxic stuff21:22
diddledan?21:22
zmoylan-pimaybe because of radium watch dials which glowed green?21:23
zmoylan-piand killed a few people who used to paint watch dials.  now if you bring in ancient watches from that time they can be treated as toxic waste21:25
daftykinsD:21:25
diddledanI had a toy car with that in the windows to make it glow21:25
diddledanleast I assume it was the same stuff21:26
zmoylan-pii think by the time they stopped using it in 70s they used a lot lot less21:26
zmoylan-pinow lick your lead paint and shush... :-P21:26
daftykinsdiddledan: come help me remove this funny dust insulation stuff...21:27
daftykinsit smells funny21:27
diddledanspeaking of which, my flat is gonna have an asbestos survey in the foreseeable21:28
zmoylan-piand we lose 1000s every year from radon gas now that we build insulated homes with no draughts to flush the gas21:28
daftykinsbut i like playing draughts21:29
* zmoylan-pi lived in house with such draughts in winter that i made a kite out of a postage stamp and flew it indoors for amusement...21:30
zmoylan-pithe long winter nights really flew when you had a postage stamp kite... :-P21:34
diddledanlol21:34
diddledanthey were simpler times21:34
daftykins:D21:35
zmoylan-piit was also at the time building model gliders out of wood veneer and greaseproof paper21:35
diddledanI'm guessing you didn't have electricity even21:35
daftykinswith that supply he could've had an indoor wind farm!21:35
diddledanI had one of those21:35
diddledanI never built it21:35
zmoylan-piwell one of my gliders was powered by a rubber band motor i built into a bic pen tube using an icecream wooden spoon as a propeller...21:36
daftykinsaction shot of zmoylan-pi https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-old-man-in-aviator-goggles-200487461.jpg21:42
diddledanisn't that one of the chuckle brothers?21:44
daftykins:D21:46
ali1234radium does glow green. but modern glow-in-the-dark stuff is not (as) radioactive22:07
ali1234it doesn't work the same way... if you ever noticed that glow-in-the-dark items have to be "charged up" by putting them in light, that is why22:08
ali1234radium doesn't need that22:09
diddledanpopey: what happened to popey.com?22:10
* diddledan just spotted your keybase id shows it as unreachable - tried accessing myself and you're offline :-(22:10
diddledanali1234: aah22:11
ali1234some glow-in-the-dark stuff does still use radioactivity, but it uses tritium instead of radium22:11
ali1234and its pretty rare22:11
ali1234in fact radium doesn't glow green at all22:12
ali1234it's the phosphors that do that22:12
ali1234when bombarded with radiation22:12
ali1234so radioactive waste glowing green is a 100% myth :)22:13
zmoylan-pisome articles describe a lot of different colours from a lot of different materials22:15
ali1234yes, phosphors dont have to be green22:15
ali1234but they are usually the brightest22:15
ali1234CRTs have red green and blue phosphors in them :)22:15
* zmoylan-pi puts duct tape over the glowing blue radiation as it's so bloody annoying... :-P22:16
ali1234also high power LED lights work by having a blue LED illuminating phosphors which then re-emit the energy as white light22:16
ali1234because blue LEDs are the brightest22:17
ali1234this is also why LED lights glow for a bit after you turn them off22:18
ali1234the phosphors are still "charged"22:18
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/wesgeorge/status/82982213803933696022:41
daftykinsyay at the telco support guy sorting out the certificate to restore functionality22:50
daftykinshe also said kudos for using Linux, but i tricked him!22:50
zmoylan-piin daftykins pc's linux uses you... :-P22:50
daftykinsi do have servers and VMs :P22:53
zmoylan-pidid you say shiboleet? http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/806:_Tech_Support23:00
daftykins>:D23:02
daftykinsi just put in a few comments to ensure i wouldn't get the usual browser cache clearing rubbish response23:03
daftykinsdiddledan: also, a much delayed "To me, to you" is in order23:06
zmoylan-pii put episodes of star trek on in the background.  it really gets their attention focused... :-)23:07
diddledanI sleep to the sounds of a warp reactor23:08
daftykinseasy, B'elanna23:08
diddledanshe was soo gorgeous23:08
diddledanthose forehead ridges were to die for23:08
daftykinspff i thought you were going to say you saw the one where she's human23:09
zmoylan-pii never really liked b'elanna.  she wasn't klingony enough to my mind23:09
diddledanwhile I love Jeri Ryan, I don't really get the love for the 7of9 character23:09
diddledanher story was interesting, however23:10
daftykinsi'm on a watch through on season 2 right now, so she's not turned up23:10
zmoylan-pishe was a human who'd missed out on childhood and was trying to work out how to be a human23:10
daftykinsJaneway should have made her serve tea on the bridge23:10
diddledanshe can sang!23:10
daftykinsdid you guys see the 2016 film 'Arrival' ? that was neat23:11
diddledanoh me darlin', oh me darlin'23:11
diddledannot yet23:11
diddledanreally wanna see it though23:11
zmoylan-pii recently watched enterprise again for first time in years.  made it all the way through.  it has finally grown on me... or there's not enough good sci fi on elsewhere...23:11
daftykinsah har23:12
daftykinsi have some but never tried23:12
zmoylan-pithough they did wayyyyy to much t'pol in the decontamination room23:12
daftykinsbut she was very, very contaminated23:12
diddledanI really wanna watch season 2 of the expanse. it's started in the US in the past couple of weeks, I think?23:13
daftykinsyep23:13
daftykinsi'm not sure i even finished s1 properly, but yeah it showed some promise23:13
zmoylan-pii tried the first episode of the expanse and while it impressed me it didn't make me watch the rest of the season23:13
zmoylan-pii'll probably go back to it when i can binge watch23:13
diddledanthey actually use real physical space flight23:13
daftykinshttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/09/mac_malware_rash/ :D23:14
zmoylan-pithat impressed me in first episode of the bird flying in zero g23:14
diddledannone of this "go. stop. now come around the back like a fighterjet"23:14
diddledandamn, daftykins, now I need to go wash my mac in soapy water!23:15
zmoylan-pii learned all my space fighting skills in elite... leave engine at 50% and constantly changing direction threw off the enemies aim a lot allowing you to plug them :-P23:15
diddledanhttps://www.countable.us/articles/237-preliminary-impeachment-inquiry-filed-president-trump23:16
daftykinsooh my23:17
diddledanit's getting crazy over there23:17
ali1234the best tactic in eleite: stop as soon as pirates are on your scanner and snipe them. you have far better range than they do23:18
zmoylan-piit will go nowhere with the republican majority23:18
diddledanalso the 9th circuit just ruled that the arab-nation/muslim ban must remain blocked23:18
zmoylan-pibut but... it's not as chaotic and fighty as my method ali1234!! :-)23:18
daftykinshuh? block the ban? :P23:18
ali1234you can also avoid them entirely by not flying to the planet in a straight line23:18
diddledandaftykins: ban^223:18
diddledanban the ban!23:19
zmoylan-piso if they block the block that blocked the ban does achmed get welcomed in customs? :-/23:19
daftykinshit it square in the ban!23:19
diddledanouch23:19
diddledanthat sounds nasty23:19
zmoylan-pienglish can be such an inpercise language at times...23:20
diddledanI'll have you know my thingy is perfectly fine!23:20
zmoylan-piit's his doohickey that's wonky23:21
daftykinsa good workman doesn't blame his tools, zmoylan-pi!23:21
zmoylan-piwell you use windows so what would be the point... :-P23:22
diddledanhaha23:22
diddledanthat's a good one23:22
daftykins:P23:22
ali1234as for trump. republicans would be quite happy to see him gone and have pence instead. they are just waiting for the public to turn first.23:23
zmoylan-pii dunno, there's a large mad section of trump supporters who'd gut the republicans if they tried that23:24
ali1234no, that group is not as large as everyone thinks. they are just super loud23:24
zmoylan-piand republicans fear loud23:24
ali1234not really. trump is pretty much guaranteed to mess up seriously at some point23:25
ali1234he will lose widespread support at that point23:25
zmoylan-piconsidering what he's done so far and hasn't had much republicans standing up to him, i'm not so sure23:25
ali1234the hardcore will still love him, but they are a tiny group, like the tea party was23:26
ali1234republicans won't stand up to him until *after* he messes up23:26
ali1234he is doing bad stuff, but so far there has been no real bad results from it23:26
ali1234when it happens, it will be over something that's not part of his rhetoric and completely unexpected23:30
zmoylan-pihis tweeting about melanias business dealings may be one of the straws23:31
ali1234yeah, but not the final one. it will be used against him when the time comes though23:31
diddledanand in the shenanigans news department we have: https://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/featured/french-man-sues-uber-after-privacy-bug-led-wife-to-suspect-adultery/23:32
zmoylan-pihis not been in the situation room for the raid in yemen will be another23:32
ali1234they're building a case against him for sure23:32
ali1234but they need a slam dunk to convince the population, not just a load of "minor" things23:32
ali1234once they have that he'll be gone so fast it makes the last two weeks look pedestrian23:33
zmoylan-pithey that live by the cloud find their data is used to hurt them later... not as catchy as die by the cloud but what the hey...23:33
zmoylan-piit won't be fasst. it will take 2 years or so once the snowball starts rolling of legal shenanigans23:33
daftykinsfind their shirts are wrinkled by the cloud...? :)23:34
zmoylan-pibut i mentioned placing a bet in bookies of trump not lasting the 4 years and someone in another channel had already checked and the odds been offered were not good23:35
ali1234bookies never offer good odds :)23:35
zmoylan-pithere were even allowing for that not good23:35
ali1234not surprising. might be worth making the opposite bet. at least then you have something to look forward to either wway23:35
diddledan"and God said unto Moses 'Come Forth', but he came fifth, and got his money back"23:42
* zmoylan-pi leaves this irish bit of graffiti here... http://www.newstalk.com/content/000/images/000011/11586_60_news_hub_multi_630x0.jpg23:46
daftykins;]23:48
diddledanlol23:51
diddledanWordPress arbitrary post creation exploit gets a new twist: https://blog.sucuri.net/2017/02/rce-attempts-against-the-latest-wordpress-rest-api-vulnerability.html23:53
diddledanthe T-man has replied! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/82983623180251545723:55
diddledanpresumably that's about the 9th circuit decision23:55
daftykinsi wanted it to read 'at steak'23:56
diddledanthat would have been gold23:56
zmoylan-piwell it will the papers busy...23:58
diddledanwill it now?!23:59
diddledanI've often willed the papers busy23:59

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