[02:06] thar we go more places are reporting intel shipping bad Atom C2000s and keeping it quiet, now [02:07] whoopsie [08:04] morning peeps [08:27] g'day [09:08] Morning all [09:16] http://askubuntu.com/questions/761180/wifi-doesnt-work-after-suspend-after-16-04-upgrade seems to affect quite a few ppl [09:38] Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Safer Internet Day! 😃 [09:50] morning boys and girls [09:52] Morning all [09:54] morning [10:48] foobarry_: yeah [11:04] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs safest song on the planet :) [15:10] Anyone here an ansible user ? [15:11] Trying to svn+ssh on a new install, want to use a priv key fron my machine ( already put pub on svn server ) [15:13] Trying to svn+ssh on a new install, want to use a priv key fron my machine ( already put pub on svn server ) [15:13] oops focus on wrong screen :P [15:23] Fixed it (need to except the key manually, need to work around that now! ) and also help is you type /var/www and not /var/wwww [15:26] popey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4M_0_UUYAE_LNe.jpg:large [15:34] diddledan: haha, love that [15:34] lol, I didn't mean to target that to you, was meant as a general for everyone :-p [15:35] oops @ tabfail [15:35] eat both! [15:35] yay my mums boot-looping LG G4 is going back under a 2 year warranty [15:35] daftykins: what does bear taste like? [15:35] it's the CPU cores desoldering apparently [15:35] \o/ [15:36] I've got an intel ATOM cpu which is gonna have to go back when asrock acknowledge the problem (it's a flaw in the atom that causes complete failure after 18 or so months of use) [15:37] ref: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/06/cisco_intel_decline_to_link_product_warning_to_faulty_chip/ [15:37] ja, whats yours in? [15:37] on an asrock mobo [15:37] self-build nas [15:37] SFF PC though or wha? [15:38] oic [15:38] this jobbie: http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=C2750D4I [15:39] funky [15:40] 18 months? that's terrible. loads of people will just think it died without knowing why [15:40] yeah [15:41] well it's in the docs now [16:55] hey popey, i just found out about your "double click URl in gnome-terminal" problem [16:55] xfce4-terminal and terminator have a setting for double click chars, it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/n9cvqqc.png [16:55] they both include ":" so it matches the whole URL [16:56] gnome-terminal either removed this setting or never had it, and they don't include ":" in their defaults [16:57] but looks like you can change it directly in the dconf: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/290544/double-click-selection-in-gnome-terminal [17:39] or right click and copy url [17:44] or right click and open url :) [17:57] depends what you want to do [17:58] Laney: indeed [17:59] I don't know much about "WiFi Direct"; but I have a printer that supports it; what I'd like to know is, if I have a laptop connected to regular WiFi - and then I want to print from the printer using WiFi Direct, does that mean I'll have to drop my regular WiFi connection in order to do that? [17:59] * Laney copies davmor2 to the clipboard [18:00] I'm assuming that it works by the printer having it's on WiFi AP in it basically? [18:00] perhaps if I plug a USB WiFi dongle into the laptop then I can have two WiFi connections - one to the regular WiFi and one to the WiFi Direct printer? [18:01] marshmn: yes you have to hop network [18:01] ok [18:01] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [18:01] but if the printer has this feature, can it not just go *on* your wifi network? [18:02] because that'd be more common... [18:03] daftykins: yes, that's possible - I'm just trying to understand the options right now; it's a mobile printer so there is the additional hassle of having to get that added to the WiFi network at the venue (as well as laptop etc.) [18:03] but it's certainly an option [18:03] if you did employ a USB wifi dongle, you could use the packages that let you run one as an access point - then have the printer configured to join that [18:04] yeah, was also thinking that [18:04] then instead of you hopping to the printer, the printer joins you (when the device is plugged in) [18:04] yeah [18:04] I think I might go that way [18:04] though i'd sooner put a cable in [18:04] which is another option :) [18:04] I always shove my dongle in ports [18:06] you should ask permission first [18:06] ^ and at least buy dinner [19:33] when is pulseaudio getting put into systemd? *duck* [19:34] I just heard tar is getting put in now (ref: bsdnow) [19:34] it's gonna be called tard [19:36] diddledan: man we just need and is command and we can time travel [19:36] lol [19:37] also is wayland getting put in systemd yet? [19:43] giant lizards are invading: https://twitter.com/spookperson/status/829777392038182913 [19:44] ali1234: yeah, they removed it :( [19:44] silly rabbits [19:45] diddledan: that's not a lizard that's just a really bad rendition of snakes on a plane where the sfx guy need to scale down the snake [19:45] ali1234: that worked, magic, thank you :) [19:46] popey: i just mentioned it to some xfce terminal devs cos they were discussing https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=854585 [19:46] Debian bug 854585 in evilvte "evilvte: Allows executing (unexpected) commands via mouse-clicks" [Important,Open] [19:46] apparently it does not affect xfce4-terminal as they used the url regex from gnome-terminal [19:47] and they told me about the double click chars thing [19:47] funny bug though... arbitrary code execution by clicking on a url [19:59] oops [20:00] and that's why you don't right click -> open i suppose [21:05] did ubuntubsd die? https://www.ubuntubsd.org/ [21:07] check the channel? [21:07] * diddledan looks-out over the solent [21:08] there's a lot of seafog [21:08] * daftykins waves a flag on the northern tip of the island [21:08] aren't you supposed to flash a torch in a special pattern? [21:09] well that proved to be too distracting to the series of opera singers which stand on the coastline singing out to provide our off-island data links [21:10] lmao [21:10] I thought they were for when it's foggy [21:13] they're the upgrade to the fires, yip [21:14] the torch batteries were proving prohibitively expensive [21:21] pfft, in ireland in 70s we tried nuclear batteries for our lighthouses... :-) [21:21] good enough for space probes, good enough for remote unoccupied wastelands [21:21] green light [21:22] why is green assumed for radiation/toxic stuff [21:22] ? [21:23] maybe because of radium watch dials which glowed green? [21:25] and killed a few people who used to paint watch dials. now if you bring in ancient watches from that time they can be treated as toxic waste [21:25] D: [21:25] I had a toy car with that in the windows to make it glow [21:26] least I assume it was the same stuff [21:26] i think by the time they stopped using it in 70s they used a lot lot less [21:26] now lick your lead paint and shush... :-P [21:27] diddledan: come help me remove this funny dust insulation stuff... [21:27] it smells funny [21:28] speaking of which, my flat is gonna have an asbestos survey in the foreseeable [21:28] and we lose 1000s every year from radon gas now that we build insulated homes with no draughts to flush the gas [21:29] but i like playing draughts [21:30] * zmoylan-pi lived in house with such draughts in winter that i made a kite out of a postage stamp and flew it indoors for amusement... [21:34] the long winter nights really flew when you had a postage stamp kite... :-P [21:34] lol [21:34] they were simpler times [21:35] :D [21:35] it was also at the time building model gliders out of wood veneer and greaseproof paper [21:35] I'm guessing you didn't have electricity even [21:35] with that supply he could've had an indoor wind farm! [21:35] I had one of those [21:35] I never built it [21:36] well one of my gliders was powered by a rubber band motor i built into a bic pen tube using an icecream wooden spoon as a propeller... [21:42] action shot of zmoylan-pi https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-old-man-in-aviator-goggles-200487461.jpg [21:44] isn't that one of the chuckle brothers? [21:46] :D [22:07] radium does glow green. but modern glow-in-the-dark stuff is not (as) radioactive [22:08] it doesn't work the same way... if you ever noticed that glow-in-the-dark items have to be "charged up" by putting them in light, that is why [22:09] radium doesn't need that [22:10] popey: what happened to popey.com? [22:10] * diddledan just spotted your keybase id shows it as unreachable - tried accessing myself and you're offline :-( [22:11] ali1234: aah [22:11] some glow-in-the-dark stuff does still use radioactivity, but it uses tritium instead of radium [22:11] and its pretty rare [22:12] in fact radium doesn't glow green at all [22:12] it's the phosphors that do that [22:12] when bombarded with radiation [22:13] so radioactive waste glowing green is a 100% myth :) [22:15] some articles describe a lot of different colours from a lot of different materials [22:15] yes, phosphors dont have to be green [22:15] but they are usually the brightest [22:15] CRTs have red green and blue phosphors in them :) [22:16] * zmoylan-pi puts duct tape over the glowing blue radiation as it's so bloody annoying... :-P [22:16] also high power LED lights work by having a blue LED illuminating phosphors which then re-emit the energy as white light [22:17] because blue LEDs are the brightest [22:18] this is also why LED lights glow for a bit after you turn them off [22:18] the phosphors are still "charged" [22:41] https://twitter.com/wesgeorge/status/829822138039336960 [22:50] yay at the telco support guy sorting out the certificate to restore functionality [22:50] he also said kudos for using Linux, but i tricked him! [22:50] in daftykins pc's linux uses you... :-P [22:53] i do have servers and VMs :P [23:00] did you say shiboleet? http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/806:_Tech_Support [23:02] >:D [23:03] i just put in a few comments to ensure i wouldn't get the usual browser cache clearing rubbish response [23:06] diddledan: also, a much delayed "To me, to you" is in order [23:07] i put episodes of star trek on in the background. it really gets their attention focused... :-) [23:08] I sleep to the sounds of a warp reactor [23:08] easy, B'elanna [23:08] she was soo gorgeous [23:08] those forehead ridges were to die for [23:09] pff i thought you were going to say you saw the one where she's human [23:09] i never really liked b'elanna. she wasn't klingony enough to my mind [23:09] while I love Jeri Ryan, I don't really get the love for the 7of9 character [23:10] her story was interesting, however [23:10] i'm on a watch through on season 2 right now, so she's not turned up [23:10] she was a human who'd missed out on childhood and was trying to work out how to be a human [23:10] Janeway should have made her serve tea on the bridge [23:10] she can sang! [23:11] did you guys see the 2016 film 'Arrival' ? that was neat [23:11] oh me darlin', oh me darlin' [23:11] not yet [23:11] really wanna see it though [23:11] i recently watched enterprise again for first time in years. made it all the way through. it has finally grown on me... or there's not enough good sci fi on elsewhere... [23:12] ah har [23:12] i have some but never tried [23:12] though they did wayyyyy to much t'pol in the decontamination room [23:12] but she was very, very contaminated [23:13] I really wanna watch season 2 of the expanse. it's started in the US in the past couple of weeks, I think? [23:13] yep [23:13] i'm not sure i even finished s1 properly, but yeah it showed some promise [23:13] i tried the first episode of the expanse and while it impressed me it didn't make me watch the rest of the season [23:13] i'll probably go back to it when i can binge watch [23:13] they actually use real physical space flight [23:14] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/09/mac_malware_rash/ :D [23:14] that impressed me in first episode of the bird flying in zero g [23:14] none of this "go. stop. now come around the back like a fighterjet" [23:15] damn, daftykins, now I need to go wash my mac in soapy water! [23:15] i learned all my space fighting skills in elite... leave engine at 50% and constantly changing direction threw off the enemies aim a lot allowing you to plug them :-P [23:16] https://www.countable.us/articles/237-preliminary-impeachment-inquiry-filed-president-trump [23:17] ooh my [23:17] it's getting crazy over there [23:18] the best tactic in eleite: stop as soon as pirates are on your scanner and snipe them. you have far better range than they do [23:18] it will go nowhere with the republican majority [23:18] also the 9th circuit just ruled that the arab-nation/muslim ban must remain blocked [23:18] but but... it's not as chaotic and fighty as my method ali1234!! :-) [23:18] huh? block the ban? :P [23:18] you can also avoid them entirely by not flying to the planet in a straight line [23:18] daftykins: ban^2 [23:19] ban the ban! [23:19] so if they block the block that blocked the ban does achmed get welcomed in customs? :-/ [23:19] hit it square in the ban! [23:19] ouch [23:19] that sounds nasty [23:20] english can be such an inpercise language at times... [23:20] I'll have you know my thingy is perfectly fine! [23:21] it's his doohickey that's wonky [23:21] a good workman doesn't blame his tools, zmoylan-pi! [23:22] well you use windows so what would be the point... :-P [23:22] haha [23:22] that's a good one [23:22] :P [23:23] as for trump. republicans would be quite happy to see him gone and have pence instead. they are just waiting for the public to turn first. [23:24] i dunno, there's a large mad section of trump supporters who'd gut the republicans if they tried that [23:24] no, that group is not as large as everyone thinks. they are just super loud [23:24] and republicans fear loud [23:25] not really. trump is pretty much guaranteed to mess up seriously at some point [23:25] he will lose widespread support at that point [23:25] considering what he's done so far and hasn't had much republicans standing up to him, i'm not so sure [23:26] the hardcore will still love him, but they are a tiny group, like the tea party was [23:26] republicans won't stand up to him until *after* he messes up [23:26] he is doing bad stuff, but so far there has been no real bad results from it [23:30] when it happens, it will be over something that's not part of his rhetoric and completely unexpected [23:31] his tweeting about melanias business dealings may be one of the straws [23:31] yeah, but not the final one. it will be used against him when the time comes though [23:32] and in the shenanigans news department we have: https://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/featured/french-man-sues-uber-after-privacy-bug-led-wife-to-suspect-adultery/ [23:32] his not been in the situation room for the raid in yemen will be another [23:32] they're building a case against him for sure [23:32] but they need a slam dunk to convince the population, not just a load of "minor" things [23:33] once they have that he'll be gone so fast it makes the last two weeks look pedestrian [23:33] they that live by the cloud find their data is used to hurt them later... not as catchy as die by the cloud but what the hey... [23:33] it won't be fasst. it will take 2 years or so once the snowball starts rolling of legal shenanigans [23:34] find their shirts are wrinkled by the cloud...? :) [23:35] but i mentioned placing a bet in bookies of trump not lasting the 4 years and someone in another channel had already checked and the odds been offered were not good [23:35] bookies never offer good odds :) [23:35] there were even allowing for that not good [23:35] not surprising. might be worth making the opposite bet. at least then you have something to look forward to either wway [23:42] "and God said unto Moses 'Come Forth', but he came fifth, and got his money back" [23:46] * zmoylan-pi leaves this irish bit of graffiti here... http://www.newstalk.com/content/000/images/000011/11586_60_news_hub_multi_630x0.jpg [23:48] ;] [23:51] lol [23:53] WordPress arbitrary post creation exploit gets a new twist: https://blog.sucuri.net/2017/02/rce-attempts-against-the-latest-wordpress-rest-api-vulnerability.html [23:55] the T-man has replied! https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/829836231802515457 [23:55] presumably that's about the 9th circuit decision [23:56] i wanted it to read 'at steak' [23:56] that would have been gold [23:58] well it will the papers busy... [23:59] will it now?! [23:59] I've often willed the papers busy