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superflymorning Ubuntu-ZA04:05
kulelu88morning superfly 04:17
superflyaloha kulelu8804:17
kulelu88howzit? hows the wife and kids? superfly 04:18
superflyWe04:18
superfly*We're all doing fine04:18
kulelu88good to hear04:19
superflywas given an oldish laptop yesterday, loaded Debian unstable on it and it's looking good.04:19
kulelu88that's awesome too. you should be able to attend more conferences now. defcon, etc.04:19
superflyApparently used to run Windows 7.04:19
superflyYeah, I can actually get 50% off attending SCaLE, but I can't go04:19
superflyan it's not far from here, about 4 or 5 hours drive, I think? maybe a little more04:20
kulelu88scaleconf?04:20
superflynot Southern California Linux Expo - biggest Linux show in the world (or at least the USA)04:20
superfly*no04:21
superflyeish, not used to this keyboard yet04:21
kulelu88sounds interesting. I am learning Nim these days :P04:22
superflyI saw so04:22
superflyI'm just getting used to Neovim at the moment04:22
kulelu88Nim is quite nice. want to see the code? :P04:23
superflykulelu88: sorry, family stuff here. sure thing04:29
kulelu88no worries superfly . family first04:29
kulelu88https://www.zerobin.net/?dd54ebb1bc97fe96#hFk2vp8doXz6ffHmW3J5Fe8twhjUrPgpi4UUlakjgfw=04:30
superflySimilar to Python04:31
superflyWhat's so attractive about it?04:31
superfly(other than being a bit more verbose)04:31
kulelu88superfly: it compiles to C (so is on the systems level)04:32
superflykulelu88: ah04:33
superflykulelu88: you can do something similar with Cython04:33
kulelu88I looked into it, but Nim is quite interesting and I kind of enjoy/understand it now. It took learning a bit of Go to understand variable assigning04:34
kulelu88assigning/defining/s04:34
kulelu88was nice catching up superfly . i'm off. take care 04:45
superflykulelu88: same here, take care04:45
nsnzeromorning all05:34
superflyHi nsnzero 06:16
nsnzerohi superfly 06:19
chesedomorning all06:26
theblazehenmorning all06:44
thatgraemeguymornings06:58
andrewlsdmorning07:00
theblazehenhey thatgraemeguy, andrewlsd07:12
andrewlsdhey theblazehen thatgraemeguy superfly chesedo nsnzero 07:16
andrewlsdsomewhat surprised to see superfly online now. Late at night?07:17
andrewlsd/online/"still online"/07:17
superflyYes. It's been an eventful day 07:18
superflyStill unpacking mentally 07:18
superflyIt's after midnight now 07:18
theblazehenIs it just me who always wants to make simple `s/thing/ some thing/` shorter when on irc?... s/\(online\)/"still \1"/07:20
superflyHehe07:22
andrewlsd+1 theblazehen07:23
andrewlsdtheblazehen:  nice:  's/\(online\)/"still \1"/'07:25
andrewlsdthis too: 's/\(online\)/still\ \1/'07:25
theblazehenRight07:26
theblazehenI should really learn perl sometime07:26
andrewlsd^ that's what he sed07:26
theblazehenlol07:26
andrewlsdtheblazehen: have you seen 'nim'07:26
andrewlsdkulelu88 was talking about it earlier this morning (06:30-ish)07:27
theblazehenandrewlsd heard of it, spent maybe 10 min with it before. Not too familiar with it07:27
andrewlsdour house just about got set on fire this morning.   I smelled that weird burning electronics smell hen I got up from my chair to make coffee. it was the massage chair in the lounge the controller's plastic was already melting. and the power supply was about to melt07:28
andrewlsdI put the controller and PSU into the freezer.07:28
theblazehenWow07:28
andrewlsdBut the house still stinks.07:28
theblazehenYou still planning on using it then....? I'd throw that out probably...07:29
theblazehenah07:29
theblazehenandrewlsd water would also work07:30
theblazehenAlthough I suppose capacitators would still hold charge07:30
andrewlsdyeah. the chair can stay (it's a lazy-boy type thing), but it will not be attached to any electrical supply07:30
theblazehenandrewlsd yeah, referring to just the psu + controller07:31
andrewlsdyip. binning those07:31
andrewlsdafter I cut them open to look at the pretty fused components.07:32
andrewlsdhttps://vgy.me/toiYPu  <-- the controller.07:43
andrewlsdGuy at my office just suggested that the Chair must have been made by Ford, and the Controller by Samsung <- Brilliant08:29
paddatrapperandrewlsd: then it's a wonder your house didn't go up in flames! 09:02
* Kilos waves10:51
nsnzerohi kilos10:53
theblazehenhey Kilos , nsnzero11:09
theblazehennsnzero you got your zsh configuration sorted? How's it looking at the moment?11:09
nsnzerohi theblazehen - got all the features i need and some extras 11:13
theblazehennsnzero nice11:13
nsnzeroi have zsh completion , man page help , full history search , selective history search , syntax highlighting , history count/time and a customized motd11:17
chesedodoes anyone have experience with fish shell11:21
nsnzerohi chesedo - i have a little experience but moved on the ZSH11:36
chesedo nsnzero: how do they compare for you?11:36
nsnzerofish is good has the neccesary feature like completion , syntax highlighting . man page help , etc , but fish is not fully compatible with bash 11:39
nsnzerofish also has a web page type configuration utility - which is extremely easy to use - zsh is abit harder so use oh-my-zsh to set it up properly11:43
nsnzerozsh has most/all of fish's features and many custom plugins , lots of themes  and is bash compatible 11:50
theblazehennsnzero has the incompatible with *sh problem, https://github.com/elves/elvish is really promising imo. http://xon.sh/ is interesting too12:02
nsnzeroits lovely theblazehen - i will keep an eye on it 12:06
theblazehennsnzero yeah. There is deer for zsh which has a limited bit of ranger functions, but it doesn't have the location history, or the bang history thing12:07
theblazehenI hate to admit it but emacs (spacemacs) is really starting to grow on me...12:09
theblazehenEven has an ipython notebook mode, repl client, sql-mode which is great for trying queries, TRAMP for file editing over ssh, a ranger like file manager, and really good vim emulation (evil-mode)12:10
theblazehenDon't always need to open a shell and ssh + vim now12:11
theblazehenYes, http://www.clickypix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/arguing-with-an-engineer.jpg12:15
Kiloshi nsnzero theblazehen 12:26
Kilossorry i fell asleep hehe12:27
nsnzerotheblazehen: sorry i had to go wire my jaw shut after i read up on spacemacs12:44
nsnzerobbl -home time now 12:44
magespawnhi all13:13
andrewlsdhi magespawn13:42
inetprouh-oh!14:11
superflyAloha15:20
nsnzerohi all15:56
smilehi nsnzero 16:02
nsnzerohey smile - how you keeping ?16:04
smilegood, but have to eat first, talk to you later16:04
nsnzerono problem - i will trying to write a script to backup file with the date and time appended to it16:19
paddatrappersuperfly: so you just not sleeping at all today? 16:23
Kilosohi magespawn superfly paddatrapper andrewlsd et al16:35
LangjanHello Kilos, good to see you here. What's the latest from Steve Biko? 16:37
nsnzeroscript done - what did i miss ?16:41
magespawnlater all16:46
Kiloshi Langjan 16:46
Kilosthat place sucks16:47
nsnzerohey kilos - was that the hospital you was in ?16:47
Kilosim home but go back for meds on the 6th and they want they video from the ausie dog that did the stent16:47
LangjanHello my friend, have you been discharged?16:47
Kilosyes man read16:48
Kilosthen after i give them the video so they can see the pictures of what was done then i will go on the 2 to 3 year waiting list16:48
Kilosidiots16:49
LangjanSorry, I had asked the q a second before the post was displayed16:49
Kilosi forgive you16:49
Kiloshehe16:49
LangjanHow are you feeling?16:49
Kilosnow i must find natural ways to remove artery plaque then i dont need hosdpital16:50
LangjanObviously irritated ...16:50
Kilosfeeling with hands still16:50
Kiloschest still eina but not unbearable16:50
paddatrapperHi oom Kilos16:50
LangjanHeavy dosages of vit C - google it16:51
Kilosthats my prob, ive learned to ignore most pain so docs see me walk around then say there is nothing wrong16:51
Kilosthey only seem to treat peeps that lie in bed crying all day16:52
nsnzeroKilos: red wine helps with the pain and cleaning of the arteries 16:52
Kilosthey read the report from monash health but still want to see the video16:52
LangjanAnd who qualify via sufficient pigment, no doubt. Surely they have been trained to diagnose 16:52
Kilosoh yes colour is important16:53
Kilosfood is bad16:53
Kilosand min16:53
Kilostoilets not clean all the time but i sorted my ward , we caught those that messed and didnt clean their mess and threatened to throw them off the roof16:54
Kilosthen toilets stayed spotless16:54
Kiloshaha made some friends there as well16:55
Langjanhttp://thenutritionalhealingcenter.com/this-vitamin-can-heal-arteries-but-theres-a-catch/16:55
Kilos ty Langjan 16:56
LangjanThe only commercial vit C that works same as in food is Food State: http://www.foodstate.co.za/articles/vitamin-month-foodstate-vitamin-c-complex16:57
LangjanPaprika is a good natural source16:58
LangjanWell done re the toilets, lmga!16:59
LangjanThats the only language they understand16:59
LangjanRe the red wine, its the anti-oxidants in the seed (pip) and the skin of the red grape that does the trick17:14
Kiloshaha17:16
Kilosim sure those sisters were happy to see me leave17:16
paddatrapperState of the nation address is a farce already!17:16
Kilosi dont drink man17:16
Kilosand wine is yucky17:16
Kilosyeah paddatrapper 17:17
Kilosjust words17:17
smileKilos: love is a gamble :p17:27
nsnzeroKilos: half the medication if not more contains alcohol in 1 form or the other 17:31
Kilosyeah i know nsnzero i just dont like the taste of wine unless its very sweet17:49
Kiloshaha smile 17:50
nsnzeroKilos: its the bitter ones that help though17:50
nsnzerofyi grapeseeds and apple seed actually contain trace amounts of arsenic 17:51
smiledon't you agree, Kilos ? :p17:54
Kilosbitter sucks17:57
Kilosthats like burned toast17:57
smiletoo much love will kill you, and you won't understand why17:57
smiletoo much love will kill you in the end17:58
Kilos'love is lekker smile , its keeping it thats the trick17:58
smiletrue :D17:58
nsnzerolol. kilos its not meant to be enjoyed ....think of it as medication17:58
smile(no alternative facts here :P)17:58
superflyHi Kilos, smile, nsnzero and paddatrapper 17:58
paddatrapperHey superfly17:58
LangjanHi superfly 17:59
nsnzerosuperfly: hi17:59
superflyHi Langjan 17:59
Kilosmy fly how are you18:00
smilehallo supervlieg :p18:00
superflyKilos: I'm OK. It's a slightly cool winter's day here today. Only 2118:02
nsnzeroLangjan: is it you thats having trouble with file sharing ?18:05
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:12
Kiloshavva good day superfly 19:12
Langjannight Kilos jy moet lekker rus19:12
Kilosnight oom Langjan and oom inetpro 19:13
superflyMaaz: tell Kilos Thanks oom!19:13
Maazsuperfly: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode19:13
LangjanThings going well in good ole USA with Donny in charge superfly? 19:14
superflyLangjan: yes, fine. The news is so biased most people outside of the USA only hear one side of the story (especially since the media is anti-Trump and pro-Obama)19:16
superflyI'm no Trump fan, but I can also see through their lies19:16
LangjanIndeed, crazy how the media can manipulate opinions19:17
LangjanI like people who call a spade a spade,  no excuses 19:17
superflyMe too.19:17
LangjanWell I believe time will tell, give the man a fair chance - the media reporting is already unfair19:18
superflyThat is my position too.19:19
LangjanWhereabouts are you in the usa, e,w,s,n?19:20
superflySouth West. Arizona, next to California and just above Mexico.19:20
LangjanOk, warmer area with mild winters?19:21
LangjanAnd near the proposed wall? 19:21
superflyYes, today is in the low 20s19:21
LangjanAnd the nights? 19:21
superflyit's about 3-4 hours drive to the border. And there's already a wall in some parts.19:21
superflyNights can get cold. It's like the Karoo here.19:21
LangjanAnd tunnels below...?19:22
Langjanwall19:22
superflyYep, tunnels below, mostly for drug smuggling.19:22
Langjanlmga!19:22
Langjanlol19:22
LangjanInteresting how arid parts get cold at night19:23
superflyThe truth is that border control doesn't care much for the illegal immigrants who come here to work. They usually want to avoid getting in trouble. It's the smugglers that border control is most worried about.19:23
Langjanand they dont care too much about the wall, they just go underground - literally19:24
LangjanThanks for the chat, keep in touch. I'm going to start winding up the day/evening (still early your way)19:26
LangjanGood night guys19:28
smilebye :p20:13

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