[04:05] <superfly> morning Ubuntu-ZA
[04:17] <kulelu88> morning superfly 
[04:17] <superfly> aloha kulelu88
[04:18] <kulelu88> howzit? hows the wife and kids? superfly 
[04:18] <superfly> We
[04:18] <superfly> *We're all doing fine
[04:19] <kulelu88> good to hear
[04:19] <superfly> was given an oldish laptop yesterday, loaded Debian unstable on it and it's looking good.
[04:19] <kulelu88> that's awesome too. you should be able to attend more conferences now. defcon, etc.
[04:19] <superfly> Apparently used to run Windows 7.
[04:19] <superfly> Yeah, I can actually get 50% off attending SCaLE, but I can't go
[04:20] <superfly> an it's not far from here, about 4 or 5 hours drive, I think? maybe a little more
[04:20] <kulelu88> scaleconf?
[04:20] <superfly> not Southern California Linux Expo - biggest Linux show in the world (or at least the USA)
[04:21] <superfly> *no
[04:21] <superfly> eish, not used to this keyboard yet
[04:22] <kulelu88> sounds interesting. I am learning Nim these days :P
[04:22] <superfly> I saw so
[04:22] <superfly> I'm just getting used to Neovim at the moment
[04:23] <kulelu88> Nim is quite nice. want to see the code? :P
[04:29] <superfly> kulelu88: sorry, family stuff here. sure thing
[04:29] <kulelu88> no worries superfly . family first
[04:30] <kulelu88> https://www.zerobin.net/?dd54ebb1bc97fe96#hFk2vp8doXz6ffHmW3J5Fe8twhjUrPgpi4UUlakjgfw=
[04:31] <superfly> Similar to Python
[04:31] <superfly> What's so attractive about it?
[04:31] <superfly> (other than being a bit more verbose)
[04:32] <kulelu88> superfly: it compiles to C (so is on the systems level)
[04:33] <superfly> kulelu88: ah
[04:33] <superfly> kulelu88: you can do something similar with Cython
[04:34] <kulelu88> I looked into it, but Nim is quite interesting and I kind of enjoy/understand it now. It took learning a bit of Go to understand variable assigning
[04:34] <kulelu88> assigning/defining/s
[04:45] <kulelu88> was nice catching up superfly . i'm off. take care 
[04:45] <superfly> kulelu88: same here, take care
[05:34] <nsnzero> morning all
[06:16] <superfly> Hi nsnzero 
[06:19] <nsnzero> hi superfly 
[06:26] <chesedo> morning all
[06:44] <theblazehen> morning all
[06:58] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[07:00] <andrewlsd> morning
[07:12] <theblazehen> hey thatgraemeguy, andrewlsd
[07:16] <andrewlsd> hey theblazehen thatgraemeguy superfly chesedo nsnzero 
[07:17] <andrewlsd> somewhat surprised to see superfly online now. Late at night?
[07:17] <andrewlsd> /online/"still online"/
[07:18] <superfly> Yes. It's been an eventful day 
[07:18] <superfly> Still unpacking mentally 
[07:18] <superfly> It's after midnight now 
[07:20] <theblazehen> Is it just me who always wants to make simple `s/thing/ some thing/` shorter when on irc?... s/\(online\)/"still \1"/
[07:22] <superfly> Hehe
[07:23] <andrewlsd> +1 theblazehen
[07:25] <andrewlsd> theblazehen:  nice:  's/\(online\)/"still \1"/'
[07:25] <andrewlsd> this too: 's/\(online\)/still\ \1/'
[07:26] <theblazehen> Right
[07:26] <theblazehen> I should really learn perl sometime
[07:26] <andrewlsd> ^ that's what he sed
[07:26] <theblazehen> lol
[07:26] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: have you seen 'nim'
[07:27] <andrewlsd> kulelu88 was talking about it earlier this morning (06:30-ish)
[07:27] <theblazehen> andrewlsd heard of it, spent maybe 10 min with it before. Not too familiar with it
[07:28] <andrewlsd> our house just about got set on fire this morning.   I smelled that weird burning electronics smell hen I got up from my chair to make coffee. it was the massage chair in the lounge the controller's plastic was already melting. and the power supply was about to melt
[07:28] <andrewlsd> I put the controller and PSU into the freezer.
[07:28] <theblazehen> Wow
[07:28] <andrewlsd> But the house still stinks.
[07:29] <theblazehen> You still planning on using it then....? I'd throw that out probably...
[07:29] <theblazehen> ah
[07:30] <theblazehen> andrewlsd water would also work
[07:30] <theblazehen> Although I suppose capacitators would still hold charge
[07:30] <andrewlsd> yeah. the chair can stay (it's a lazy-boy type thing), but it will not be attached to any electrical supply
[07:31] <theblazehen> andrewlsd yeah, referring to just the psu + controller
[07:31] <andrewlsd> yip. binning those
[07:32] <andrewlsd> after I cut them open to look at the pretty fused components.
[07:43] <andrewlsd> https://vgy.me/toiYPu  <-- the controller.
[08:29] <andrewlsd> Guy at my office just suggested that the Chair must have been made by Ford, and the Controller by Samsung <- Brilliant
[09:02] <paddatrapper> andrewlsd: then it's a wonder your house didn't go up in flames! 
[10:51]  * Kilos waves
[10:53] <nsnzero> hi kilos
[11:09] <theblazehen> hey Kilos , nsnzero
[11:09] <theblazehen> nsnzero you got your zsh configuration sorted? How's it looking at the moment?
[11:13] <nsnzero> hi theblazehen - got all the features i need and some extras 
[11:13] <theblazehen> nsnzero nice
[11:17] <nsnzero> i have zsh completion , man page help , full history search , selective history search , syntax highlighting , history count/time and a customized motd
[11:21] <chesedo> does anyone have experience with fish shell
[11:36] <nsnzero> hi chesedo - i have a little experience but moved on the ZSH
[11:36] <chesedo>  nsnzero: how do they compare for you?
[11:39] <nsnzero> fish is good has the neccesary feature like completion , syntax highlighting . man page help , etc , but fish is not fully compatible with bash 
[11:43] <nsnzero> fish also has a web page type configuration utility - which is extremely easy to use - zsh is abit harder so use oh-my-zsh to set it up properly
[11:50] <nsnzero> zsh has most/all of fish's features and many custom plugins , lots of themes  and is bash compatible 
[12:02] <theblazehen> nsnzero has the incompatible with *sh problem, https://github.com/elves/elvish is really promising imo. http://xon.sh/ is interesting too
[12:06] <nsnzero> its lovely theblazehen - i will keep an eye on it 
[12:07] <theblazehen> nsnzero yeah. There is deer for zsh which has a limited bit of ranger functions, but it doesn't have the location history, or the bang history thing
[12:09] <theblazehen> I hate to admit it but emacs (spacemacs) is really starting to grow on me...
[12:10] <theblazehen> Even has an ipython notebook mode, repl client, sql-mode which is great for trying queries, TRAMP for file editing over ssh, a ranger like file manager, and really good vim emulation (evil-mode)
[12:11] <theblazehen> Don't always need to open a shell and ssh + vim now
[12:15] <theblazehen> Yes, http://www.clickypix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/arguing-with-an-engineer.jpg
[12:26] <Kilos> hi nsnzero theblazehen 
[12:27] <Kilos> sorry i fell asleep hehe
[12:44] <nsnzero> theblazehen: sorry i had to go wire my jaw shut after i read up on spacemacs
[12:44] <nsnzero> bbl -home time now 
[13:13] <magespawn> hi all
[13:42] <andrewlsd> hi magespawn
[14:11] <inetpro> uh-oh!
[15:20] <superfly> Aloha
[15:56] <nsnzero> hi all
[16:02] <smile> hi nsnzero 
[16:04] <nsnzero> hey smile - how you keeping ?
[16:04] <smile> good, but have to eat first, talk to you later
[16:19] <nsnzero> no problem - i will trying to write a script to backup file with the date and time appended to it
[16:23] <paddatrapper> superfly: so you just not sleeping at all today? 
[16:35] <Kilos> ohi magespawn superfly paddatrapper andrewlsd et al
[16:37] <Langjan> Hello Kilos, good to see you here. What's the latest from Steve Biko? 
[16:41] <nsnzero> script done - what did i miss ?
[16:46] <magespawn> later all
[16:46] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[16:47] <Kilos> that place sucks
[16:47] <nsnzero> hey kilos - was that the hospital you was in ?
[16:47] <Kilos> im home but go back for meds on the 6th and they want they video from the ausie dog that did the stent
[16:47] <Langjan> Hello my friend, have you been discharged?
[16:48] <Kilos> yes man read
[16:48] <Kilos> then after i give them the video so they can see the pictures of what was done then i will go on the 2 to 3 year waiting list
[16:49] <Kilos> idiots
[16:49] <Langjan> Sorry, I had asked the q a second before the post was displayed
[16:49] <Kilos> i forgive you
[16:49] <Kilos> hehe
[16:49] <Langjan> How are you feeling?
[16:50] <Kilos> now i must find natural ways to remove artery plaque then i dont need hosdpital
[16:50] <Langjan> Obviously irritated ...
[16:50] <Kilos> feeling with hands still
[16:50] <Kilos> chest still eina but not unbearable
[16:50] <paddatrapper> Hi oom Kilos
[16:51] <Langjan> Heavy dosages of vit C - google it
[16:51] <Kilos> thats my prob, ive learned to ignore most pain so docs see me walk around then say there is nothing wrong
[16:52] <Kilos> they only seem to treat peeps that lie in bed crying all day
[16:52] <nsnzero> Kilos: red wine helps with the pain and cleaning of the arteries 
[16:52] <Kilos> they read the report from monash health but still want to see the video
[16:52] <Langjan> And who qualify via sufficient pigment, no doubt. Surely they have been trained to diagnose 
[16:53] <Kilos> oh yes colour is important
[16:53] <Kilos> food is bad
[16:53] <Kilos> and min
[16:54] <Kilos> toilets not clean all the time but i sorted my ward , we caught those that messed and didnt clean their mess and threatened to throw them off the roof
[16:54] <Kilos> then toilets stayed spotless
[16:55] <Kilos> haha made some friends there as well
[16:55] <Langjan> http://thenutritionalhealingcenter.com/this-vitamin-can-heal-arteries-but-theres-a-catch/
[16:56] <Kilos>  ty Langjan 
[16:57] <Langjan> The only commercial vit C that works same as in food is Food State: http://www.foodstate.co.za/articles/vitamin-month-foodstate-vitamin-c-complex
[16:58] <Langjan> Paprika is a good natural source
[16:59] <Langjan> Well done re the toilets, lmga!
[16:59] <Langjan> Thats the only language they understand
[17:14] <Langjan> Re the red wine, its the anti-oxidants in the seed (pip) and the skin of the red grape that does the trick
[17:16] <Kilos> haha
[17:16] <Kilos> im sure those sisters were happy to see me leave
[17:16] <paddatrapper> State of the nation address is a farce already!
[17:16] <Kilos> i dont drink man
[17:16] <Kilos> and wine is yucky
[17:17] <Kilos> yeah paddatrapper 
[17:17] <Kilos> just words
[17:27] <smile> Kilos: love is a gamble :p
[17:31] <nsnzero> Kilos: half the medication if not more contains alcohol in 1 form or the other 
[17:49] <Kilos> yeah i know nsnzero i just dont like the taste of wine unless its very sweet
[17:50] <Kilos> haha smile 
[17:50] <nsnzero> Kilos: its the bitter ones that help though
[17:51] <nsnzero> fyi grapeseeds and apple seed actually contain trace amounts of arsenic 
[17:54] <smile> don't you agree, Kilos ? :p
[17:57] <Kilos> bitter sucks
[17:57] <Kilos> thats like burned toast
[17:57] <smile> too much love will kill you, and you won't understand why
[17:58] <smile> too much love will kill you in the end
[17:58] <Kilos> 'love is lekker smile , its keeping it thats the trick
[17:58] <smile> true :D
[17:58] <nsnzero> lol. kilos its not meant to be enjoyed ....think of it as medication
[17:58] <smile> (no alternative facts here :P)
[17:58] <superfly> Hi Kilos, smile, nsnzero and paddatrapper 
[17:58] <paddatrapper> Hey superfly
[17:59] <Langjan> Hi superfly 
[17:59] <nsnzero> superfly: hi
[17:59] <superfly> Hi Langjan 
[18:00] <Kilos> my fly how are you
[18:00] <smile> hallo supervlieg :p
[18:02] <superfly> Kilos: I'm OK. It's a slightly cool winter's day here today. Only 21
[18:05] <nsnzero> Langjan: is it you thats having trouble with file sharing ?
[19:12] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:12] <Kilos> havva good day superfly 
[19:12] <Langjan> night Kilos jy moet lekker rus
[19:13] <Kilos> night oom Langjan and oom inetpro 
[19:13] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos Thanks oom!
[19:13] <Maaz> superfly: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[19:14] <Langjan> Things going well in good ole USA with Donny in charge superfly? 
[19:16] <superfly> Langjan: yes, fine. The news is so biased most people outside of the USA only hear one side of the story (especially since the media is anti-Trump and pro-Obama)
[19:16] <superfly> I'm no Trump fan, but I can also see through their lies
[19:17] <Langjan> Indeed, crazy how the media can manipulate opinions
[19:17] <Langjan> I like people who call a spade a spade,  no excuses 
[19:17] <superfly> Me too.
[19:18] <Langjan> Well I believe time will tell, give the man a fair chance - the media reporting is already unfair
[19:19] <superfly> That is my position too.
[19:20] <Langjan> Whereabouts are you in the usa, e,w,s,n?
[19:20] <superfly> South West. Arizona, next to California and just above Mexico.
[19:21] <Langjan> Ok, warmer area with mild winters?
[19:21] <Langjan> And near the proposed wall? 
[19:21] <superfly> Yes, today is in the low 20s
[19:21] <Langjan> And the nights? 
[19:21] <superfly> it's about 3-4 hours drive to the border. And there's already a wall in some parts.
[19:21] <superfly> Nights can get cold. It's like the Karoo here.
[19:22] <Langjan> And tunnels below...?
[19:22] <Langjan> wall
[19:22] <superfly> Yep, tunnels below, mostly for drug smuggling.
[19:22] <Langjan> lmga!
[19:22] <Langjan> lol
[19:23] <Langjan> Interesting how arid parts get cold at night
[19:23] <superfly> The truth is that border control doesn't care much for the illegal immigrants who come here to work. They usually want to avoid getting in trouble. It's the smugglers that border control is most worried about.
[19:24] <Langjan> and they dont care too much about the wall, they just go underground - literally
[19:26] <Langjan> Thanks for the chat, keep in touch. I'm going to start winding up the day/evening (still early your way)
[19:28] <Langjan> Good night guys
[20:13] <smile> bye :p