[00:10] <bluesabre> knome, pong
[07:38] <flocculant> ochosi: nope - will have a look later today 
[07:40] <flocculant> question - is git://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar master and now will have the other 2 patches in it - so I only need grab the one from 12260?
[07:55] <ochosi> flocculant: yup
[07:56] <flocculant> ochosi: ok - thanks :)
[07:57] <flocculant> I'll bash that to sodom and gomorrah later then - maybe we can get that in too if it works well :)
[08:01] <ochosi> :)
[08:01] <ochosi> thanks
[10:30] <knome> bluesabre, well that was late...
[10:32] <knome> bluesabre, but i guess the question was if we are allowing lock on live systems, and whether we should look into not doing that
[10:32] <bluesabre> knome, I believe we disable it
[10:33] <knome> then it was likely a bug a person was experiencing yesterday
[10:44] <Unit193> bluesabre: In xubuntu-live-settings, it's supposed to.
[10:44] <bluesabre> right
[10:45] <bluesabre> light-locker is still installed live, and could theoretically be launched
[12:13] <flocculant> it for sure can - I test that when we're having cyclical lock issues 
[12:21] <flocculant> ftr - the ubuntu live doesn't lock
[14:52] <ali1234> hmm.. that new thunar patch looks very good to me
[14:53] <ali1234> looks like exactly the kind of race condition i'd expect to cause random crashes
[14:55] <ochosi> ali1234: if you wanna review another upcoming patch, there's one on the move-crash bug
[14:56] <ali1234> that's the one i mean, i think
[14:56] <ali1234> the one posted two days ago
[14:56] <ali1234> going to write a comment
[18:02] <flocculant> ochosi: not seeing anything happen I wouldn't expect
[18:02] <flocculant> Unit193: not seeing crash with gtkhash installed
[19:11] <flocculant> ochosi: commented 
[19:29] <ochosi> flocculant: awesome sauce. i'll push that one too
[19:31] <flocculant> ochosi: guessing so - it's working here - and it's not made things worse :)
[19:31] <ochosi> can you send another email for testers?
[19:32] <ochosi> then i can maybe to a thunar release with this patch on the weekend
[19:32] <ochosi> and we can get to SRUing
[19:33] <flocculant> ochosi: to test with master + the newest patch?
[19:33] <ochosi> yup
[19:33] <ochosi> to see whether all move crashes are resolved
[19:33] <ochosi> are there any other open bugs on your side?
[19:34] <ochosi> or is it stable now?
[19:34] <flocculant> seems stable here
[19:34] <flocculant> I'm a bit confused as to why master + patch(es) doesn't crash with gtkhash like the ppa one?
[19:35] <flocculant> but rather unwilling to confuse the issue too much :)
[19:37] <ochosi> good idea ;)
[19:38] <ochosi> especially if it resolves more bugs than advertised!
[19:38] <flocculant> :)
[19:38] <ochosi> or maybe Unit193 can update the ppa with this patch
[19:38] <ochosi> bbabl
[19:38] <flocculant> k
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[20:07] <flocculant> ochosi: mail away
[21:10] <ochosi> flocculant: thanks a bunch!
[21:17] <flocculant> ochosi: if you've not seen it yet - pointed responses to 12260 
[21:18] <ochosi> yup
[21:18] <ochosi> much better because direct
[21:18] <flocculant> yea
[21:19] <flocculant> once this has all worked it's way through - I'll be interested to see th egtk3 thunar :p
[21:20] <ochosi> haha
[21:21]  * flocculant has never really taken much notice of xfce bugs and patches and things - not sure why
[21:21] <ochosi> it all just was too stable for too long ;)
[21:22] <flocculant> lol
[21:22] <flocculant> then thunar ... 
[21:24] <ochosi> actually it's a mix of thunar and glib
[21:24] <ochosi> but anyhow, i think we'll get through this
[21:24] <flocculant> well yea - but I noticed thunar going splat :p
[21:25] <flocculant> perhaps I'll get more involved with xfce qa 
[21:26] <ochosi> that'd be awesome
[21:26] <knome> hooray
[21:26] <ochosi> then i need to give you edit rights in bugzilla though
[21:26] <knome> haha
[21:26] <ochosi> most components need a serious bug cleanup
[21:26] <flocculant> except you'd see me whine in more than 1 place ;)
[21:26] <ochosi> lol
[21:26] <ochosi> i've cleaned up the bugzillas for some components, but it just doesn't last very long
[21:27] <flocculant> I did once look at a bug list there and start working through which were dead - then I was much the same and stopped :p
[21:27] <Unit193> ochosi: In place of current ones?
[21:28] <ochosi> Unit193: i guess master+the move patch
[21:28] <ochosi> do we carry a lot moreß
[21:28] <ochosi> ?
[21:28] <Unit193> The two we were trying.
[21:29] <Unit193> Ah, the email answers that. :)
[21:31] <flocculant> Unit193: I'm still befuddled by the gtkhash thing :)
[21:32] <Unit193> flocculant: Indeed, but luckily we don't care about that. :D
[21:32] <flocculant> if the ppa becomes master plus this latest patch - I'll try again :D
[21:32] <flocculant> nope - just odd
[21:32] <Unit193> I was just going to stack the next one.
[21:33] <flocculant> should that not be the same though
[21:37] <Unit193> I'd have to boot the VM and get everything setup for getting a distcheck from thunar though. :3
[21:41] <Unit193> flocculant: Unless you want to enter the thunar git souce dir and run  make distcheck  giving me the resulting tar? :3
[21:46] <flocculant> what thunar git source dir? 
[21:46] <flocculant> the one I've got here? 
[21:47] <flocculant> Unit193: ^^
[21:47] <ochosi> Unit193: we really need a jenkins to do that...
[21:47] <Unit193> flocculant: Yep.
[21:47] <ochosi> jenkins with some docker nodes that build the crap out of those packages and deploy to launchpad
[21:47] <flocculant> ochosi: oh no = that jenkins word
[21:47] <flocculant> Unit193: I can - with the patch?
[21:48] <Unit193> flocculant: Likely better without, but not too picky.
[21:51] <flocculant> Unit193: likely called Thunar-1.6.10git-35e65ab.tar.bz2 ?
[21:51] <Unit193> Yep.
[21:52] <flocculant> not very big - but sent 
[21:53] <flocculant> Unit193: give me an e-mail it doesn't get bounced from :p
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[21:55] <Unit193> Hah, niice.
[21:55] <Unit193> That one should work.
[21:56] <flocculant> k
[21:57] <Unit193> Got it. danke.
[21:58] <flocculant> welcome 
[21:58] <flocculant> Unit193: was without patch btw
[22:04]  * flocculant wanders off now 
[22:29] <Unit193> ochosi: Oh, there ye go.
[22:40] <ochosi> ty
[23:07] <Unit193> Oh good, Sean is here to save you.
[23:09]  * bluesabre is struggling to save himself
[23:10] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages?field.name_filter=thunar new test thunar version, though you couldn't even crash the last. :P
[23:11] <bluesabre> oh boy new thunar
[23:16] <bluesabre> most promising version so far
[23:16] <bluesabre> renames without dying *and* without losing which file it was just looking at
[23:17] <bluesabre> I approve
[23:33]  * Unit193 dputs it to Ubuntu, git snapshot and all! :P
[23:34] <Unit193> I also spoke to Corsac, warned him and wondered if he'd be able to get an unblock on it.
[23:41] <Unit193> I figure we'll want the ristretto, xfce4-terminal, and xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin (GTK2) updates in.
[23:42] <bluesabre> Yes indeed
[23:42] <bluesabre> and thanks for reaching out to Corsac
[23:43] <Unit193> (Debian is in freeze now, pretty much like our FF except they don't default-allow, you have to file an unblock for the migration to happen.)
[23:43] <bluesabre> right
[23:43] <bluesabre> in the case of Thunar though, definitely worthwhile
[23:44] <Unit193> +1