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[02:05] <doko> mwhudson: ^^^ 64bit only?
[02:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prometheus-postgres-exporter [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.1.1+ds-1]
[02:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prometheus-postgres-exporter [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [0.1.1+ds-1]
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[02:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prometheus-postgres-exporter [i386] (zesty-proposed) [0.1.1+ds-1]
[02:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: binutils (xenial-proposed/main) [2.26.1-1ubuntu1~16.04.3 => 2.26.1-1ubuntu1~16.04.4] (core)
[02:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-azure-go-ansiterm [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20160622.0.fa152c5-1]
[02:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-docker-go-metrics [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20161110.0.0f35294-1]
[02:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libpod-weaver-section-legal-complicated-perl [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.22-1]
[02:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-fusepy [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [2.0.4-1]
[02:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-bshuster-repo-logrus-logstash-hook [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20170102.0.5f729f2-1]
[02:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mmllib [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.3.0.post1-1]
[02:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-mrunalp-fileutils [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20160930.0.4ee1cc9-1]
[02:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ruby-recursive-open-struct [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.2-1]
[02:15] <mwhudson> doko: eh?
[02:15] <mwhudson> oh golang-github-mailru-easyjson ?
[02:16] <mwhudson> doko: it's the same in debian at least
[02:17] <mwhudson> src/github.com/mailru/easyjson/tests/data.go:91: constant 4294967295 overflows int
[02:17] <mwhudson>  haha
[02:20] <doko> mwhudson: looks like the go world is so modern to ignore 32bit ...
[02:21] <mwhudson> doko: pretty much
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[11:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted chrome-gnome-shell [source] (yakkety-proposed) [8-2ubuntu3~ubuntu16.10.1]
[12:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted checkit-tiff [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.2.3-1]
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[12:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libconfig-mvp-slicer-perl [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.302-1]
[12:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libprotocol-http2-perl [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.08-1]
[12:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-signedjson [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.0-2]
[12:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted checkit-tiff [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [0.2.3-1]
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[12:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtest-abortable-perl [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.002-1]
[12:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted emacs-which-key [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [2.0-1]
[12:02] <xnox> mwhudson, do you think we need a new permament golang installability tracker, for the shared libraries stuff? (same as we do for e.g. haskell and ocaml?)
[12:03] <xnox> because it looks like golang-go.crypto is currently not installable and needs a re-build; because net1 has moved.
[12:03]  * xnox is verifying that right now
[12:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: bubblewrap (xenial-proposed/primary) [0.1.7-0ubuntu0.16.04.1]
[12:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: flatpak (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.6.11-1ubuntu0.16.10.0 => 0.8.2-1~ubuntu16.10.1] (no packageset)
[12:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: flatpak (xenial-proposed/primary) [0.8.2-1~ubuntu16.04.1]
[12:24] <jbicha> sil2100: are you interested in accepting chrome-gnome-shell from the trusty and xenial new queues so bug 1652537 can be verified in all series at the same time?
[12:24] <ubot5> bug 1652537 in chrome-gnome-shell (Ubuntu Xenial) "Update chrome-gnome-shell to version 8 in all supported releases" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652537
[12:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: flannel [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.5.5~ds1-2] (no packageset)
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[12:45] <sil2100> jbicha: sadly this would have to be done by some proper archive admin...
[12:45] <sil2100> jbicha: (I'm not a proper one)
[12:45] <sil2100> jbicha: maybe apw could help here
[12:47] <apw> say waht ?
[12:52] <sil2100> apw: I accepted the chrome-gnome-shell big SRU to yakkety - jbicha wanted to have the same version in trusty and xenial, but the packages do not exist in series before yakkety
[12:52] <sil2100> (tricky case, but rationale is in the SRU bug)
[12:53] <sil2100> LP: #1652537
[12:53] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1652537 in chrome-gnome-shell (Ubuntu Xenial) "Update chrome-gnome-shell to version 8 in all supported releases" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652537
[12:53] <sil2100> apw: if you're doing any AA/SRU work, maybe you could take a look and see if it makes sense?
[12:53] <sil2100> I don't know the rules for new packages in our supported series so it's hard for me to judge
[12:56] <jbicha> it's because of Firefox so I blame chrisccoulson ;)
[13:22] <sil2100> rbasak, bdmurray, slangasek: should the publishing vanguard schedule be updated to include me in a specific day? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[13:22] <rbasak> I believe so, if you can volunteer for a particular day.
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[13:40] <chrisccoulson> Firefox is nothing to do with me these days ;)
[13:40] <chrisccoulson> (well, I pretend that is the case)
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[13:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected multipath-tools [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.5.0+git1.656f8865-5ubuntu7.2]
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[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected multipath-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.5.0+git1.656f8865-5ubuntu2.4]
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[14:07] <davmor2> infinity: hey dude just a quick double check there is nothing else likely to land on 16.04.2 desktop now is there?  It is safe to test right?
[14:17] <ginggs> would someone please 'force-badtest nodejs/4.7.2~dfsg-1ubuntu2' ? it is the only thing holding up nodejs and a bunch of node-ly things,  and has failed for a while in debian https://ci.debian.net/packages/n/nodejs/unstable/amd64/
[14:21] <apw> ginggs, it isn't the only thing holdiing nodejs in -proposed, and that not being a leaf node is a little concerning if its own self-tests are not working
[14:21] <apw> ginggs, do we know if those same tests failed in the version in zesty-release ?
[14:21] <ginggs> it is now - it retried some tests
[14:22] <apw> ok
[14:22] <ginggs> only one of nodejs's own tests fails
[14:22] <ginggs> and it looks like that started failing https://ci.debian.net/data/packages/unstable/amd64/n/nodejs/20161102_032303.log
[14:22] <ginggs> with the libssl update
[14:24] <apw> ginggs, do we have a feel for what that test actually tests ?  how serious it not working would be (if the test is not just borked)
[14:27] <ginggs> apw: not a clue - i figured that the several hundred other node packages continued to work was a good sign
[14:38] <ginggs> hmm, apw that one nodejs test that fails actually has nothing to do with ssl
[14:38] <ginggs> ubuntu has a patch that seems to fix the ssl test failures that debian have
[14:40] <ginggs> so the only test that fails in ubuntu  https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-zesty/zesty/amd64/n/nodejs/20170209_174153_6dff7@/log.gz
[14:40] <ginggs> is 'not ok 663 parallel/test-process-config'
[14:40] <ginggs> the last time everything passed in november in debian https://ci.debian.net/data/packages/unstable/amd64/n/nodejs/20161101_091238.autopkgtest.log.gz
[14:41] <ginggs> this test was commented out: 'not ok 644 parallel/test-process-config # TODO : Fix flaky test'
[14:42] <ginggs> so do you want me to fix that by commenting it out in a new upload, or would you force-badtest ?
[14:43] <apw> ginggs, if you can confirm all the failures on nodejs are that one on all arches, we can force that one badtest
[14:44] <ginggs> ok, lemme check the other arches
[14:47] <ginggs> '663 parallel/test-process-config' is the only failure on all arches except armhf which has 'not ok 849 parallel/test-tick-processor # TODO : Fix flaky test' in addition
[14:49] <apw> ginggs, then it sounds ok to force those, if we could turn those off in the next merge if they are still marked flakey
[14:50] <apw> ginggs, and done
[14:52] <ginggs> apw: thanks! i added a comment to https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html - although i'm not sure if they persist across versions
[15:10] <Laney> urgh
[15:12] <ginggs> Laney: what is it?
[15:28] <apw> Laney, ?
[16:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kexec-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:2.0.10-1ubuntu2.1]
[16:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kexec-tools [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1:2.0.10-2ubuntu1.1]
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[16:30] <Laney> ginggs: apw: I feel like we're sliding a bit on forcing tests - this one could be marked as skipped in the source and then you'd get confidence from running the rest of them
[16:38] <ginggs> Laney: that's the plan for the next merge - personally, i would prefer to mark tests bad in the source, but my changes to that effect have been undone in the past
[16:38] <Laney> Then the tests fail and the thing gets blocked until the uploader sorts it out
[16:40] <apw> Laney, i agree in principle, in this case there were a heap of dependant packages which i did not want to find needed rebuilding too if it was, and ginggs was made to check all the other tests passed by hand
[16:40] <ginggs> in the cases i'm referring to the uploader had the package force-badtest
[16:41] <apw> Laney, the remainder of the things we have been forcing have been KDE bits to get them out of teh way of other transitions.  in that case because they are committing to replacing those packages next week adn those they are working on getting the tests working right
[16:42] <Laney> apw: It's mainly that it harms the benefit of the tests when it's run for deps now
[16:42] <apw> Laney, in the normal case it is and always should be as you say bad form
[16:42] <Laney> Oh look it failed before, force
[16:42] <Laney> Or if the badtest is still there, it's just ignored
[16:42] <apw> i can see that, and i'll resist more going forward
[16:42] <xnox> #resist #remain
[16:43] <Laney> Well, it's a judgement call in each case
[16:43] <Laney> I just want to push back a bit :-)
[16:43] <Laney> thanks for fielding most of the recent requests as well of course
[16:43] <ginggs> you don't want to end up with every MOTU just disabling tests in the source though, going through a ubuntu-release is at least  another pair of eyes
[16:44] <apw> Laney, and i appreciate you doing so :)
[16:44] <ginggs> this should go away when debian start gating on autopkgtests - hopefully soon
[16:44] <apw> Laney, it is a narrow path we wend and easy to lean to far one way or t'other
[16:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu1]
[16:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu1]
[16:57] <infinity> davmor2: There will be a respin to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1663299 but I don't anticipate any other changes.
[16:57] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1663299 in Ubuntu CD Images "16.04.2: `linux-signed-image-generic-hwe-16.04` is autoremovable after UEFI install" [Undecided,New]
[16:58] <infinity> davmor2: Although, the concept that it's only "safe to test" when "nothing else is going to land" is a bit bass ackwards.  If we only test the "final" image, how do we fix bugs we find with it? :P
[17:04] <davmor2> infinity: I have no issues testing an image if I know it is only to test things work rather than will be the final image.  If I am testing the final image then I want to know it isn't going to change
[17:04] <davmor2> infinity: I've done tests on daily but that has been loads land since then
[17:08] <jbicha> could an archive admin please remove jasper from zesty, bug 1612835
[17:08] <ubot5> bug 1612835 in jasper (Ubuntu) "Please don't depend on jasper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1612835
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-cbroglie-mapstructure [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20150405.0.25325b4-1] (no packageset)
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[17:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-go-openapi-swag [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161024.0.3b6d86c-1] (no packageset)
[17:14] <infinity> davmor2: Nothing has landed since the current images were generated.  With the exception of that one bug that will require a respin after some infrastructure changes, these images are close enough to final.  But, again, we don't know if anything is final until we've tested.  I can't declare a final image *before* I know it's good.
[17:15] <tyhicks> Could an archive admin nuke jasper from Zesty? This is bug #1612835
[17:15] <ubot5> bug 1612835 in jasper (Ubuntu) "Please remove jasper from Zesty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1612835
[17:16] <tyhicks> I'm updating jasper in yakkety-security and would prefer not to send a build and autopkgtest run of a new jasper upload through zesty
[17:17] <tyhicks> jbicha: fyi, I've asked for an archive admin to remove jasper from zesty ^
[17:18] <jbicha> me too! (a few min ago) :)
[17:18] <tyhicks> ha, I missed that :)
[17:20] <infinity> jbicha, tyhicks: Done.
[17:20] <tyhicks> infinity: thank you!
[17:21] <nacc> infinity: it seems very likely that the libc updates (possibly the Unicode 9 patch?) has changed iconv behavior (breaking phpmyadmin build): http://paste.ubuntu.com/23967871/. I think Debian is going to see this as well the next time they rebuild phpmyadmin
[17:21] <nacc> infinity: any ideas, I've not touched libc before
[17:22] <nacc> it's also possible it was before the Unicode 9 update, as there was a specific 'transliteration' change in 2.24-4
[17:22] <infinity> nacc: I could possibly have ideas, but not today.
[17:23] <nacc> infinity: ok -- is it reasonable/possible for me to test this on my own (PPA?). Given the dependencies on it, not sure if it's possible to fix 'just locale' or 'just iconv' without requiring to rebuild a bunch of other stuff
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[17:24] <infinity> nacc: It's certainly testable in a PPA.  Not sure what you mean about "just iconv", though.  It's the glibc source package.  You'll be rebuilding the whole thing.
[17:24] <nacc> infinity: err, duh, ok
[17:25] <nacc> infinity: i meant if i, say, update the locales, do i need to rebuild a bunch of other stuff in order for things not to break wildly :)
[17:26] <infinity> nacc: If you're testing theories like, say, reverting the fix for Debian bug #840199, rebuilding glibc would be enough.
[17:26] <ubot5> Debian bug 840199 in libc6 "libc6: setlocale(LC_ALL, "C.UTF-8") used to work in jessie" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/840199
[17:27] <infinity> nacc: More to the point, if rebuilding glibc ever leads to a situation where the rest of the archive needs to be rebuilt, you've failed to provide a useful bugfix. ;)
[17:27] <nacc> infinity: heh, ack
[17:27] <nacc> infinity: and yeah, that's exactly what i was planning on doing, thanks!
[17:29] <infinity> nacc: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-glibc/glibc.git/commit/?id=29be63fde23ee497bb83fc9fee77171d26a7d447
[17:29] <nacc> infinity: yep, looking at that right now
[17:29] <nacc> it seems highly likely :)
[17:32] <infinity> nacc: Seems plausible that it's either that or the larger unicode update, yes.
[17:34] <infinity> nacc: (Also possible that it's both :P)
[17:34] <infinity> nacc: In that switching to translit_combining might have been harmless until the unicode 9 update broke the combining table.
[17:35] <nacc> infinity: right, that makes sense, I'll dig deeper. You've already been a great help, thanks!
[17:43] <comptekki> is Ubuntu-MATE-16.04.2 coming out Monday too?
[17:56] <infinity> comptekki: If by Monday you mean "not today", yes.  I've not re-set a hard date, but I was thinking Valentine's Day, with all the ISOs wrapped in heart-shaped bows. :P
[18:01] <comptekki> :)
[18:03] <infinity> comptekki: So, if you're asking from the POV of a user who wants to install it on a dozen machines, that's the answer.
[18:04] <flocculant> infinity: you old softie ...
[18:04] <infinity> comptekki: If you're asking from the POV of a tester/QA, see my rant to davamor2 earlier.  It'll never release if people don't test, so don't wait for a "final" image, as we can't have "final" images without first testing what we have today.
[18:04] <infinity> flocculant: Well, I'm one of those thingd.
[18:04] <flocculant> :)
[18:04] <infinity> s/thingd/things/
[18:09] <comptekki> i wouldn't install on many machines without testing on one first ;)
[18:09] <comptekki> test/feedback is a good idea - i know from app dev
[18:10] <comptekki> users want cool new app - ask for help beta test - all i hear are crickets - but they still want a new cool app! .... still hear crickets.....
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[20:20] <nacc> infinity: fyi, reverting the translit change alone did allow the test to pass. I'll follow-up with the Debian folks.
[20:29] <infinity> nacc: Thanks.  Point me to the Debian bug.
[20:30] <nacc> infinity: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=854821
[20:30] <ubot5> Debian bug 854821 in libc-bin "iconv: behavior change with C.UTF-8" [Normal,Open]
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