[00:02] <Irishwolf> Hello fellow IRC super users =)
[00:03] <Irishwolf> first time on this channel, but got me a new linux box, so here I am.
[00:04] <Irishwolf> anyone buzzing about?
[00:05] <Irishwolf> o/
[00:06] <k1l_> Irishwolf: this channel is for technical support only. for the chatter we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:11] <Len> guys any idea why I can't enter password for encfs on last ubuntu? (it's not working on splash)
[00:11] <Len> already tested ohci_pci didn't helped
[00:16] <Generic> Hello guys, real quick what was what was the command i can use to send email from the terminal ?\
[00:17] <ErkiDerLoony> Generic: That would be "mail".
[00:17] <Generic> No, no i remember their was something  that go's from Root
[00:18] <Generic> in tho the spam sections lol
[00:18] <H0m3YC7au5> sendmail?
[00:18] <ErkiDerLoony> telnet?
[00:18] <OerHeks> mail as user or as root, basicly equal
[00:19] <Generic> I think i used Shh
[00:19] <Generic> instead telnet
[00:19] <teli> Hi. I installed this : https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa  Every non-app thing is just a black box. I open terminal and I see a black box, I go to settings and I see a black box, thank god my browser is working. Please how do I install this shit. It's all visual so the terminal must work. If someone can give me a terminal code I can copy/paste to uninstall it that would be great.  Thanks
[00:19] <ErkiDerLoony> Something like "telnet mail.gmx.net 25".
[00:19] <OerHeks> !ppapurge | teli
[00:20] <Generic> Telli fix your ppa bruh
[00:20] <teli> im a total noob
[00:20] <OerHeks> sudo ppa-purge ppa:paulo-miguel-dias/mesa # and rboot
[00:20] <teli> the # included?
[00:20] <teli> i wont be able to see if its working or not
[00:21] <OerHeks> it does not harm, # is comment
[00:21] <teli> ok ill give it a try
[00:21] <teli> thanks a lot
[00:21] <teli> if it doesnt work, ill be back
[00:21] <Generic> Hahaha i love this Python talks #GO GO GUYS
[00:21] <teli> ok i entered the code, how long should i wait?
[00:22] <teli> before i restart
[00:22] <Generic> Teli
[00:22] <teli> yes?
[00:22] <Generic> try $apt update
[00:22] <Generic> now
[00:22] <OerHeks> teli, if the operation is succesfull, you would get a prompt back. just wait and see
[00:23] <dorkmafia> tomreyn: I tried with 16.4 server and am trying with 14 now
[00:23] <teli> no, tyhats the problem
[00:23] <teli> i cant see the terminal
[00:23] <teli> its a graphical glitch
[00:23] <Generic> press the Ctrl + alt +T
[00:23] <wedgie> teli: do tty's work? Ctrl+Alt+F2
[00:23] <OerHeks> teli, oh mesa blocs windowframes,  you could login ctrl alt F2 and do it there
[00:23] <teli> i already entered the code in terminal
[00:23] <ErkiDerLoony> Isn't that Ctrl + Alt + F1?
[00:24] <ErkiDerLoony> ... or F2
[00:24] <Generic> Erkil no
[00:24] <dorkmafia> ok same issue on 14
[00:24] <k1l_> ctrl+alt+f1 is tty1 and worth a try
[00:24] <wedgie> ErkiDerLoony: F3 F4 F5 F6 and F7 work also
[00:24] <dorkmafia> after booting into grub and selecting "install ubuntu" it tries to boot into the screen then restarts
[00:25] <OerHeks> but if you entered the command ( and password blindly after that ) .. i would wait
[00:26] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | dorkmafia Did you verify the .iso ?
[00:27] <dorkmafia> Bashing-om: yes I have verified the ios
[00:27] <dorkmafia> it's the same issue i have been getting for awhile
[00:27] <Len> any idea why ubuntu is ignoring vfio-pci settings?
[00:27] <teli_> hi im back. it didnt work
[00:28] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: Next up then is a graphics issue . Try botting with the nomodeset boot parameter ?
[00:28] <systemd0wn> Question, I'm seeing memory issues on a server I have set the vm.max_map_count (262144) on. That was the recommended setting from Elasticsearch however I'm not familiar with max_map_count. What determines the uper bound of this value?
[00:28] <Bashing-om> booting*
[00:29] <teli_> how do i delete this ? https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa
[00:29] <teli_> i see the terminal as a black box
[00:29] <bazhang> teli_, a PPA?
[00:29] <teli_> so please pretend like im blind
[00:29] <teli_> idk, im a noob
[00:29] <wedgie> teli_: try a tty: Ctrl+Alt+F2
[00:29] <k1l_> teli_: just removing the repo will still let the pacakges be installed. so use ppa-purge to let it change the packages back to original again
[00:29] <teli_> i did that earlier
[00:30] <bazhang> teli_, you added it, you tell us
[00:30] <wedgie> no text there either?
[00:30] <teli_> but i couldnt log in
[00:30] <teli_> what does ctrl+alt+f2 do?
[00:30] <wedgie> teli_: takes you to a tty
[00:30] <teli_> do i put in my username?
[00:30] <wedgie> teli_: and to get back to graphical desktop, ctrl+alt+f7
[00:30] <wedgie> teli_: yes, username and password
[00:31] <k1l_> yes, that is a cli login. like a fullscreen terminal
[00:31] <wedgie> then, at least, you can see what commands you run and their output
[00:31] <teli_> ohhh
[00:31] <teli_> can anyone give me a command to fix this?
[00:32] <teli_> what command do i put in to purge the ppa?
[00:32] <OerHeks> sudo ppa-purge ppa:paulo-miguel-dias/mesa
[00:33] <teli_> thanks ill try it mow
[00:33] <teli_> now
[00:33] <MarkB2> I just loaded ubuntu core into an Intel Joule.. and I'm supposed to log into it over an ssh connection.
[00:34] <dorkmafia> Bashing-om: how do i do that again?
[00:35] <MarkB2> Oh wait..
[00:35] <MarkB2> Hmm.
[00:38] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: Is this in the installer or attempting to boot an installed system ?
[00:40] <dorkmafia> the installer
[00:40] <dorkmafia> I am able to boot to the grub menu
[00:41] <dorkmafia> then I select "install ubuntu" or "try ubuntu" and the machine tries to load the installer but just reboots (kernel panics?)
[00:42] <k1l_> just reboots? are you sure the hardware works (like with another version or OS)
[00:43] <ced_> hello, I just installed ubuntu but I cannot install anything because the single sign on to ubuntu one says my password or email is invalid
[00:43] <ced_> even tho I'm connected on the web and my email and passwords are valid
[00:43] <ced_> I've found this is a bug but it is marked as resolved here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1616943
[00:45] <ced_> anyone ?
[00:45] <minimec> ced_: I would first try to update/upgrade your installation within a terminal.
[00:45] <k1l_> ced_: open a terminal an run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" to get all updates first
[00:45] <minimec> ced_: like 'sudo apt update', then 'sudo apt upgrade'
[00:47] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: reboot and as soon as the bios screen clears hold a shift key ( EFI spam the escape key) -> language screen, escape key to accept the default -> boot options screen -> F6 key -> drop down : select nomodeset .
[00:47] <ced_> Thanks it's gonna take a while apparently. I don't think new users should be asked to do that tho.
[00:51] <dorkmafia> Bashing-om: are these bios options you want me to set? or flags to pass grub ?
[00:52] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: No, that is the means to get to the boot options screen in the installer and set ' nomodeset' ( or some other boot options ) .
[00:53] <dorkmafia> i'm at the gnu grub menu
[00:54] <dorkmafia> press enter to boot the selected OS, `e' to edit the commands before booting or `c' for command line
[00:54] <dorkmafia> esct o return to previous menu
[00:54] <Fudster> I found a security problem on my ubuntu server. all files are +read on everyone by default How do I change this?
[00:54] <k1l_> press e when highlighting ubuntu. then add "nomodeset" to the line starting with linux
[00:54] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: That suggest that this is not the installer ... but an installed system . How one sets nomodeset depends on the use case here .
[00:55] <k1l_> !nomodeset | dorkmafia this is a good howto for grub and live cd.
[00:57] <dorkmafia> i want to wipe whatever is on the ssd and install a clean ubuntu..
[00:57] <k1l_> is this a nvme ssd?
[00:59] <ced_> I managed to login via sudo snap login after the apt update etc. I'll reiterate that I think it should straight out work from the get go
[00:59] <dnb_> Hey guys, long time running (2 years) samba config decided to stop working properly today, and unsure what to check. [remote] smbtree shows the samba server but hangs until timeout when querying... turns out, smbtree -d3 shows that it's trying to resolve to the wrong IP.  I know I've had issues (and lived with) not being able to ping/curl by hostname, and it resolves to THIS ip; however samba runs on the netbios (right???) protocol n th
[00:59] <dorkmafia> i pressed e on the install ubuntu option then added nomodeset after quiet
[01:00] <dnb_> testparm output: http://pastebin.com/QEvPv7Bv
[01:00] <guyFromWeb> can you make a DNS to a site instead of IP?
[01:01] <dorkmafia> can i delete the quiet and the splash?
[01:01] <k1l_> dorkmafia: yes
[01:01] <tgm4883> guyFromWeb: like a CNAME?
[01:01] <dorkmafia> well i deleted the quiet and the splash put nomodeset and it dumped a bunch of text before rebooting
[01:01] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: Key combo ctl+x to comtinue the boot process .
[01:01] <dorkmafia> you'd think they would have a vi mode ;)
[01:01] <dnb_> @guyFromWeb, yeah CNAME is what you want: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNAME_record
[01:01] <dorkmafia> is there a way to capture the dump?
[01:02] <dorkmafia> pretty useless dump if it happens within a nanosecond
[01:02] <dorkmafia> :(
[01:02] <dnb_> @dorkmafia should be in /var/log/boot.log
[01:02] <dorkmafia> oooh on usb stick?? <3?
[01:03] <dnb_> or /var/log/dmesg or dmesg
[01:03] <dnb_> can pipe all that to less
[01:04] <guyFromWeb> nvm
[01:04] <guyFromWeb> lol
[01:04] <guyFromWeb> thanks tho
[01:05] <ced_> I still can't connect in the Ubuntu software.. invalid password and email
[01:05] <ced_> I've run this : sudo snap install krita
[01:06] <ced_> how can this be shipped
[01:06] <lord_daemon> How to clone hd with dd command with the size of the image being the size of the files instead of the whole hd
[01:06] <lord_daemon> ?
[01:06] <dorkmafia> dnb_: there is no log file on the usb stick
[01:07] <dorkmafia> find . -name \*.log
[01:07] <dorkmafia> let me check the dmesg
[01:07] <k1l_> lord_daemon: if you clone with dd it will be the exact copy of the full hd.
[01:07] <dnb_> in /var/log??
[01:07] <k1l_> lord_daemon: what files are you talking about?
[01:08] <OerHeks> filezilla can compress or shrink to the actual data
[01:08] <lord_daemon> I want to clone my pfsense (freebsd)
[01:08] <lord_daemon> k1l_ You know how I can do this, is there another tool?
[01:10] <k1l_> if you want to clone the full hdd with dd then its the size of the hdd
[01:10] <k1l_> lord_daemon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[01:11] <dorkmafia> dnb_: there is no /var on the usb install stick
[01:11] <k1l_> lord_daemon: if backup size matters you might want to backup only the files that you need after you have reinstalled the OS.
[01:11] <k1l_> dorkmafia: dnb_ there is no logs on usb
[01:12] <dnb_> my bad, been a minute since i booted on live iso
[01:12] <dorkmafia> yup
[01:12] <dorkmafia> no worries
[01:12] <OerHeks> lord_daemon, same answer as your crosspost in #linux
[01:12] <dorkmafia> so what are my next steps?
[01:12] <k1l_> dorkmafia: is that a nvme ssd?
[01:12] <dorkmafia> i'm about to use this thing as a boat anchor
[01:13] <dnb_> http://askubuntu.com/a/821801
[01:13] <dorkmafia> crucial m500
[01:13] <k1l_> dnb_: that only works when the system would not reboot asap.
[01:14] <k1l_> dorkmafia: is that a known issue for that laptop?
[01:15] <dorkmafia> its a dual xenon work station
[01:15] <dorkmafia> hp z820 with two xenon cpus
[01:17] <dorkmafia> im using this usb stick https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227331
[01:17] <k1l_> dorkmafia: the hardware is fine as such? other OS do run there?
[01:17] <dorkmafia> yup win blows was
[01:18] <k1l_> how did you create that ubuntu usb?
[01:18] <dorkmafia> unetbootin on osx selected an img
[01:18] <k1l_> i only find people fighting with uefi on that machine, but that works when you can see the boot
[01:18] <k1l_> ah, unetbootin is known to have issues
[01:19] <k1l_> can you use "dd" there to "burn" the image?
[01:20] <dorkmafia> sure can u help me w/ the dd cmd again pls
[01:20] <Generic> Is anybody have Exp in Python?
[01:20] <dorkmafia> Generic: try #python?
[01:21] <k1l_> dorkmafia: sudo dd if=hybrid_iso_image.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=1M && sync
[01:22] <Generic> got it bruh
[01:24] <Generic> Yea, i need to be register to talk there
[01:24] <Generic> lol
[01:24] <OerHeks> dorkmafia, seems like your issue too .. https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/5q8upe/hp_z820_install_linux_woes/ with directions to setting option rom > efi http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c03266085
[01:29] <dorkmafia> OerHeks: lol yes i posted that!
[01:30] <ErrlBDabawax> hi all, i just downloaded ubuntu make through the package manager on linux mint serena but can't figure out how to launch it.
[01:30] <dorkmafia> "SCU RAID Option ROM Download" I don't have this option in my bios
[01:30] <dorkmafia> I have the mass storage option which i changed to EFI though
[01:31] <ErrlBDabawax> when i type "umate android" (because i want to work on an android apk) it gives me the error: ERROR: A default framework for category Android was requested where there is none
[01:31] <ErrlBDabawax> usage: umake android [-h] {android-ndk} ...
[01:32] <ErrlBDabawax> umake web tells me ERROR: A default framework for category Web was requested where there is none
[01:32] <ErrlBDabawax> usage: umake web [-h] {visual-studio-code,firefox-dev} ...
[01:34] <texla> Wanting to remove excessive kernels listed during start up of 16.04 I used autoremove --purge it removed intries in synaptic what am I missing in my command
[01:35] <OerHeks> ErrlBDabawax, sounds like a mint serena issue, we don't support mint and derivates here
[01:35] <Kurt_> is there an Ubuntu repository to find out which version is best for my notebook and printer?
[01:35] <OerHeks> !mint
[01:36] <Kurt_> using 16.4.1 without issue; but am having difficulty setting up my hp printer
[01:36] <Bashing-om> texla: If the package manager is in a consistent state then ' sudo apt autoremove ' should have removed old kernels also .
[01:38] <xangua> Kurt_: did you install HP lip?
[01:38] <OerHeks> Kurt_, you can run '  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  ' to see if graphical things are oke
[01:39] <Kurt_> Hello MsSmith--any suggestions about how to install an HP Officejet 4635 in a perfect installation of Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS xenial?
[01:39] <xangua> !info printer-driver-all | you can also try (it will save time looking drivers for other printers)
[01:39] <bazhang> Kurt_, check the linuxprinting.org database first
[01:40] <james0r> how would i go about moving the snap dir out of my home dir?
[01:40] <james0r> i like to keep ~/ tidy
[01:40] <bazhang> james0r, as in snappy?
[01:40] <james0r> bazhang, sure
[01:40] <ErrlBDabawax> linuxmint-help sent me here :'(
[01:40] <bazhang> #snappy for that james0r
[01:41] <bazhang> ErrlBDabawax, mint support is not on freenode
[01:41] <james0r> bazhang, k thx
[01:41] <bazhang> ErrlBDabawax, and MINT is simply not supported here
[01:42] <OerHeks> mint serena has its own issues
[01:42] <Kurt_> Xangua: do I type that "info printer-driver-all" at the terminal command?
[01:42] <bazhang> !mintsupport | ErrlBDabawax
[01:42] <bazhang> spotchat ErrlBDabawax  not here
[01:43] <rizonz> what do you guys mostly use now the ens naming or still the ethX ?
[01:44] <OerHeks> rizonz, basicly we answer: get used to the new naming
[01:44] <OerHeks> but you can turn it off.
[01:45] <xangua> !info printer-driver-all | Kurt_
[01:45] <dorkmafia> k1l_: should I use of=/dev/disk2 I see these: GUID_partition_scheme disk2, EFI disk2s1, UNTITLED disk2s2
[01:45] <dorkmafia> or should i do of=/dev/disk2s2
[01:45] <rizonz> OerHeks: true but for auto deploys it's kinda odd
[01:46] <dorkmafia> i'm not sure what the EFI diks2s1 is to be honest
[01:46] <rizonz> OerHeks: I have 2 of the same nics, one is ens3 and one is ens9 :S
[01:46] <OerHeks> rizonz, for autodeploy it should be a breeze
[01:46] <rizonz> OerHeks: it's not, why do you think that ?
[01:46] <k1l_> dorkmafia: i dont know the naming scheme from macos but on ubuntu you need to dd to /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1 since sdb1 is the partition but you need to dd to the bare metal
[01:46] <rizonz> I can't guess the numbersit gets
[01:50] <dorkmafia> i should follow htis https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles/#Command_Line_Interface-2
[01:51] <silencecm> Can someone help me with a systemd service question?
[01:51] <silencecm> I'm just struggling with a dependency issue
[01:52] <dorkmafia> k1l_: is the sync nesc? it doesn't suggest sync in the doc
[01:53] <OerHeks> after dd, sync is recommended
[01:53] <silencecm> I have two custom `systemd.service` services and I need one to run after the other.
[01:53] <silencecm> I've tried using After, RequiredBy, etc
[01:54] <k1l_> dorkmafia: the sync is there to make sure the usb is done writing and not just faked that its done and in reality is still writing from the cache to the usb
[02:11] <rocket__> hi
[02:12] <rocket__> i have a question - i have debian installed - in general how secure are routers?
[02:12] <rocket__> should i also use the iptables to restrict services to the lan?
[02:12] <rocket__> samba for example
[02:12] <LjL> so you are running debian and you have a question about routers, hence you ask #ubuntu
[02:13] <rocket__> ?
[02:13] <rocket__> whats the problem?
[02:13] <LjL> i don't know, what's your problem with ubuntu?
[02:14] <rocket__> ah wrong channel sorry
[02:14] <rocket__> but anyway its the same for ubuntu
[02:14] <rocket__> since ubuntu is based upon debian
[02:15] <LjL> which is based on linux which is inspired by unix and a type of unix is bsd, so might as well ask in the freebsd channel
[02:16] <rocket__> LjL, why do u waste your time with trolling?
[02:16] <LjL> why don't you go to the correct channel and also speak English using full words?
[02:17] <LjL> i've spent more than a decade seeing people having the rather obvious concept that question about a thing belong in the channel for the given thing fly right over people's head
[02:17] <LjL> and that whole part of "support" taking up, at a guess, almost half of total support time
[02:17] <rocket__> LjL, get a life i have no time to waste it with idiots like you seem to be ;)
[02:19] <sponix> Wow
[02:19] <bazhang> rocket__, take debian questions to their channel
[02:20] <rocket__> its not a debian question, but i autojoined the wrong channel but still its no reason to start trolling
[02:20] <rocket__> they already answered my question on debian
[02:20] <bazhang> rocket__, that's enough
[02:21] <k1l_> rocket__: you see that you are still waisting this channel with non ubuntu support and insulting others? what about you stop that rude behavior
[02:21] <rocket__> im not insulting anyone
[02:22] <sponix> "idiots like you seem to be" -- Quote rocket__
[02:22] <sponix> I personally find that a bit insulting
[02:22] <rocket__> well but this question is not about debian or ubuntu its about services and linux and routers
[02:23] <rocket__> i hate to get troll answers and i didnt see that im on the wrong channel
[02:23] <sponix> rocket__: If it is a "General" Linux question then ask in ##Linux
[02:23] <bazhang> ##networking then rocket__
[02:23] <rocket__> sure thanks
[02:23] <bazhang> np
[02:23] <rocket__> like i said i was thinking i was on debian
[02:23] <bazhang> thats fine, lets get back on topic please
[02:24] <sponix> rocket__: Asking in the wrong channel can happen from time to time. But it seems everyone is getting carried away
[02:25] <stv> hello anybody out there
[02:25] <k1l_> stv: yes, just ask :)
[02:25] <stv> I am having trouble with unbunta
[02:25] <stv> upgrade not working
[02:26] <k1l_> which upgrade?
[02:26] <k1l_> can you show the output of "lsb_release -sd" in here?
[02:26] <stv> one min please
[02:26] <sponix> How likely are backports to wreck my box stability wise ?
[02:27] <stv> xbunta I have 14.0 and want 16
[02:27] <stv> keeps crashing
[02:28] <k1l_> stv: what keeps crashing?
[02:28] <stv> upgrade
[02:29] <k1l_> did you use the gui or the do-release-upgrade command? when does it crash?
[02:29] <stv> yes
[02:29] <stv> when I say yes
[02:29] <stv> to download
[02:30] <stv> i386 pc
[02:30] <k1l_> did you use "do-release-upgrade" in terminal/console?
[02:30] <stv> yes
[02:30] <k1l_> is this a 32bit only cpu?
[02:31] <stv> yes
[02:31] <stv> amd
[02:31] <stv> sempron
[02:31] <stv> acer
[02:32] <stv> oh well shit happens
[02:32] <stv> see ya later
[02:32] <k1l_> what is the error when it crashes?
[02:32] <k1l_> hmm
[02:35] <sponix> k1l_: Don't you LOVE that.. When they come ask for help and /quit right in the middle of you working with them :P
[02:40] <dorkmafia> tomreyn: k1l_ same issues
[02:44] <dorkmafia> i select "install ubuntu" and then e and change quiet splash to nomodeset I see a log dump the the computer restarts
[02:44] <dorkmafia> is there a way to capture the log output?
[02:44] <dorkmafia> k1l_: i used dd to make this usb stick
[02:59] <Allen_Oaks> What happened to IRC?
[02:59] <dorkmafia> i have no idea
[03:00] <Allen_Oaks> I feel like it's the End of an Era with IRC...
[03:00] <Allen_Oaks> Anyone else?
[03:01] <OerHeks> if you want to talk about feelings, join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:02] <Allen_Oaks> Haha, thanks.
[03:12] <delphinny> hey all, I get this message when I try to run my virtual machine in virt-manager "Error starting domain: unsupported configuration: host doesn't support passthrough of host PCI devices" can anyone help?
[03:18] <mehmetcan> hey!
[03:20] <delphinny> and kvm-ok is saying "INFO: Your CPU does not support KVM extensions"  .. but I have an Intel i7-4790K and I thought those supported it? I enabled intel VT-d in my bios...shouldn't that work?
[03:38] <da7niel> just installed ubuntu the other day and am now trying to install python-pip via terminal but it's stuck at 86% [Waiting for headers] -- i've tried restarting and all that. Does anyone know what to do?
[03:41] <Bashing-om> !info python-pip xenial
[03:41] <catbeard> so for anyone wondering why uBlock Origin all of a sudden is blank and the logger/dashboard for it no longer works, remove the ubuntu firefox modifications addon
[03:41] <catbeard> *sigh*
[03:42] <da7niel> i just got an error telling me the connection failed so it's now trying to get another package which also isn't working
[03:45] <Bashing-om> da7niel: ' sudo apt update ' sudo apt upgrade ' complete ?
[03:46] <da7niel> Bashing-om: I'm new to this, what do you mean complete?
[03:47] <da7niel> Bashing-om: everything is up to date/upgraded
[03:48] <Bashing-om> da7niel: What I mean is do both run clean showing no errors ?
[03:48] <OerHeks> da7niel, sudo apt install -a # might fix this
[03:49] <da7niel> Bashing-om: ah yes, no errors
[03:49] <mpalumbo> what is the exact error you are getting? and you paste it into pastebin and toss me the link?
[03:49] <mpalumbo> oh not getting a error ok
[03:50] <da7niel> I'm now trying to install python3-pip and it's now stuck on 83% -_-
[03:50] <da7niel> sure I'll get an error in a moment and send it
[03:50] <mpalumbo> da7niel: ok
[03:53] <mpalumbo> da7niel: pm me with the link, i will brb
[03:54] <Nicky> Hi anyone there?
[03:55] <Nicky> I have a problem
[03:55] <Bashing-om> !ask | Nicky
[03:56] <Nicky> When i am trying to install something through my terminal i got the message like this every time "E: The package ttf-mscorefonts-installer needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:56] <Nicky> "
[03:57] <Nicky> And i have tried many times to solve this problem by the command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer"
[03:57] <Bashing-om> Nicky: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2351957 <- fix: The script that the the package runs to download the fonts from sourceforge is pointing at the wrong location.
[03:58] <Nicky> But every time i get the same message .. How can i solve this problem... can anyone help me ?
[04:03] <Nicky> Bashing-om , again i get the same message
[04:09] <mpalumbo> Nicky: did you run a apt-get update before running the install --reinstall command?
[04:10] <mpalumbo> Nicky: and have you tried as root 'dpkg -reconfigure ttf-mscorefonts-installer'
[04:10] <NightHawk_> hmmmmm
[04:15] <Nicky> mpalumbo , when i tried the command which u mentioned i get the same error :-(
[04:15] <Nicky> E: The package ttf-mscorefonts-installer needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:16] <Moondhum> I am not able to change my plymouth theme anymore, it displays a broken theme no matter which theme I change into.
[04:16] <Moondhum> Initially I faced this problem only when I selected a manually installed theme and the problem would go away once I switched
[04:16] <Moondhum> back to an inbuilt theme. How I change themes,
[04:16] <Moondhum> https://paste.linux.community/view/b2375b99
[04:21] <mpalumbo> Nicky: even with the dpkg-reconfigure command?
[04:22] <Nicky> yup mplaumbo :-( even with that command :-( what i will do ?
[04:23] <mpalumbo> Nicky: hmm only other thing i can think of is maybe a apt-get install -f
[04:25] <Nicky> mpalumbo , i get this message when i tried that commmand " E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[04:25] <Nicky> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:25] <Nicky> "
[04:25] <catbeard> type !! and hit enter
[04:26] <Nicky> Again the same message catbeard
[04:26] <catbeard> err sorry
[04:27] <catbeard> sudo !!
[04:27] <Nicky> yup tried but it shows
[04:27] <Nicky> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:27] <Nicky> Reading package lists... Done
[04:27] <Nicky> Building dependency tree
[04:27] <Nicky> Reading state information... Done
[04:27] <Nicky> E: The package ttf-mscorefonts-installer needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:27] <catbeard> sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <catbeard> then sudo apt-get install -f
[04:28] <catbeard> there's also this little gem, teaches one to be complacent though: https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck
[04:28] <Bashing-om> Nicky: ^^ post #5 . did upu touch and purge ? I have seen several dvisories to install the 3.6 version of ttf-mscorefonts .
[04:28] <Bashing-om> you*
[04:29] <Nicky> catbeard , sudo apt-get update
[04:29] <Nicky> Reading package lists... Done
[04:29] <Nicky> then sudo apt-get install -f
[04:29] <Nicky> Reading package lists... Done
[04:29] <Nicky> Building dependency tree
[04:29] <Nicky> Reading state information... Done
[04:29] <Nicky> E: The package ttf-mscorefonts-installer needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:29] <cfhowlett> Nicky, you have an apt-lock.  msg the bot for the fix:      /msg ubottu aptlock
[04:30] <catbeard> well solved one prob, just needed sudo, now you need the right version of ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[04:32] <Nicky> catbeard , how can i get right version of ttf-mscorefonts-installer ?
[04:32] <Nicky> cfhowlett , how can i fix that lock ?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> Nicky, you have an apt-lock.  msg the bot for the fix:      /msg ubottu aptlock
[04:33] <cfhowlett> put the last 3 words in your irc client
[04:34] <countingdaisies> I have some installation problem in 16.04 that I can't find an answer to. I installed php5.6-curl via apt-get but when I try to enable it I'm told it doesn't exist (bash ouput). Why is  "Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)"  saying what dpkg verifies doesn't exist?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23964773/  <---  output of dpkg -l | grep curl (shows the package is installed).  If anyone can help I sure would...
[04:34] <countingdaisies> ...appreciate it. I've been wrestling with this the better part of today.
[04:36] <countingdaisies> My intention is to have both php7.0 and php5.6 installed side by side.
[04:40] <ttal> anyone using Google Photos, and if so somehow backing it up locally to a NAS? Trying to figure out how to accomplish this.
[04:41] <countingdaisies> my irc client crashed or something. I wasn't away long but I might have missed a response f there was . sorry
[04:41] <countingdaisies> What about outside irc? Does anone use the forum any more?
[04:50] <JairunCaloth> I end up there when I'm searching for answers to stuff sometimes.
[04:54] <ifroog> Hi, How do i add an existing log to systemd journal, like everything logged at /var/log/fail2ban.log?
[04:56] <JairunCaloth> ifroog: I don't actually know the answer to your question. However, as someone who has to dig through system logs full of firewall spam. IMO it's better to keep them sperate.
[04:57] <BloodStone> ifroog look at systemd-cat
[04:58] <ifroog> JairunCaloth, True. Was just hoping I could centralize all the logs.
[04:59] <countingdaisies> Yeah, the package is installed but it's not being recognized by the program it was installed for. As fare as I'm concerned there is no way past this and I just thought it was a pretty fundamental problem (core issue) - that something is reported differently from one program to the next. How would I know which one to believe (since they can't both be right)?
[05:00] <countingdaisies> maybe dpkg is reporting falsely?
[05:01] <countingdaisies> or apt-get didn't reaaally install the package (even thought the output says it did)?
[05:01] <ifroog> BloodStone, That is useful if I'm writing my own logs, or write a script to do it. What I need is to simply have systemd monitor a log file not included by default.
[05:10] <x-warrior> ubuntu + razer blade stealth anybody? :P
[05:11] <cfhowlett> x-warrior, vague questions >> vague answers.  perhaps restating important details is on order: https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[05:13] <JairunCaloth> ifroog: looks like you just need to set backend = systemd in jail.conf
[05:13] <JairunCaloth> fail2ban 0.9+ shoudl be able to automatically use the journal with that set
[05:14] <x-warrior> does anybody has problems with drivers and razer blade stealth ?
[05:14] <ifroog> BloodStone, Thanks, This is my only option.
[05:15] <ifroog> JairunCaloth, Yes, It does.
[05:15] <cfhowlett> x-warrior, are YOU having problems?  what problems?  what you have tried?  what are your system specs? what error messages have your gotten?
[05:16] <x-warrior> cfhowlett: I'm trying to avoid future problems before buying, if I had a specific problem I would ask a specific question. If you don't have one, you will not be able to help me.
[05:18] <cahoots> i want to "wrap" a command so that even if it returns an error status code, the overall command won't return an error status code
[05:20] <tyxk8160> ？
[05:20] <countingdaisies> I found http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37717174/warning-module-ini-file-doesnt-exist-under-etc-php-7-0-mods-available  saying there's some problem with ubuntu installing that particular package and won't write the ini file. So (like it says)  I apt-get purge php5.6-curl  and then  apt-get install php5.6-curl and one of the apt-get output lines is "Creating config file /etc/php/5.6/mods-availab
[05:20] <countingdaisies> le/curl.ini with new version"  I did file /etc/php/5.6/mods-available/curl.ini and see the file does exist (as well as less the file and see it is not empty).  If I run phpenmod php5.6-curl I get "WARNING: Module php5.6-curl ini file doesn't exist under /etc/php/5.6/mods-available"   and if I do  a2enmod php5..6-curl I get "ERROR: Module php5.6-curl does not exist!"  .  This is very...
[05:20] <countingdaisies> ...confusing and I see it reflected in google searches (lot of confusion and no real answers).  Idk if it's the way I'm doing it (wrong probably) or what?
[05:20] <countingdaisies> is it really that unimportant or is that just me?
[05:22] <tyxk8160> anybody here?
[05:22] <JairunCaloth> just us chickens
[05:22] <cfhowlett> tyxk8160, ask your ubuntu question here or chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:23] <countingdaisies> tyxk8160: no - 1777 dont give a rip
[05:24] <countingdaisies> tyxk8160: I don't know much but If I can help I will
[05:24] <tyxk8160> thanks
[05:26] <tyxk8160> Is there any debugger better than gdb
[05:28] <countingdaisies> tyxk8160: I've wanted to learn gdb for a while and played with it here/there for a few min. I' don't know of anything else though I think.  #programming   would be real good for that question
[05:29] <countingdaisies> or ##c
[05:29] <tyxk8160> Okay
[05:31] <ubuntu-mate> jhjk
[05:36] <BloodStone> countingdaisies, you can kdbg, a graphical interface of gdb
[05:39] <BloodStone> try*
[05:47] <tayzar> hello
[05:48] <tayzar> i had any python lib problem
[05:49] <tayzar> how to i fix this(import dateutil.relativedelta
[05:49] <tayzar> ImportError: No module named 'dateutil'
[05:49] <tayzar> ) python lib error
[05:55] <BloodStone> tayzar, Install dateutil package, either with pip or from the main website
[05:58] <tayzar> BloodStone, Thz ^^
[06:00] <KamiRath> hi, my desktop freezes every once in a while usually when im playing games
[06:00] <KamiRath> GTX 970 using proprietary drivers
[06:00] <KamiRath> could it be the drivers?
[06:01] <xrandr> KamiRath, it could be. Have you tried turning the settings down?
[06:05] <KamiRath> xrandr, it's also happened when i watched movies
[06:05] <CrazyTux> does Ubuntu 16.10 contain more bleeding edge packages?
[06:06] <xrandr> KamiRath, then you have a driver issue
[06:06] <xrandr> CrazyTux, depends on what you mean by bleeding edge
[06:06] <xrandr> It has a new version of Unity out (Unity 8)
[06:06] <CrazyTux> I mean does it contain packages with latest versions?
[06:07] <xrandr> CrazyTux, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwja4YLL7oTSAhUB3iYKHfACDzoQFggkMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffossbytes.com%2F7-best-features-in-ubuntu-16-10-yakkety-yak%2F&usg=AFQjCNGz_Od8XBzhwp4cprrmHXRgf7GZQw&sig2=jdhFAWA-YBt7NIwnpCvgZg
[06:07] <xrandr> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes
[06:09] <CrazyTux> just wanted ask one more question. I have Xubuntu 16.04.1 installed on my laptop. Can I upgrade it to 16.10?
[06:11] <freecoder> yes you can
[06:12] <CrazyTux> ok. I'll upgrade it to 16.10.
[06:18] <hateball> CrazyTux: Be aware you'll need to keep up with the 6-9 month release cycle if you move away from LTS
[06:18] <CrazyTux> ok.
[06:18] <CrazyTux> I wanted some features that 16.10 version offers.
[06:54] <rts> I keep seeing the following in my systemd entries in the syslog - Why does it keep saying Failed to start User Manager for UID XXXX? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23965506/
[06:57] <HankMoody> Okay, I've got a bit of a weird issue that I haven't been able to come to a conclusion on... On one of my monitors I keep syslog, denyhosts, and auth.log open in terminals with "tail -f /var/log/xxxxx" Somehow this time my auth.log is stuck back from 2/8/17. I even tried opening up the auth.log.1 and it's even further back to the 6th. Anyone have any idea what the issue could be?
[07:00] <drunk_coder> vnc server on ubuntu 14.04 crashed. Error: Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":1". RandR extension missing
[07:00] <drunk_coder> do you know how to fix this?
[07:01] <drunk_coder> randr is missing. so what should i install ? didn't find the package yet
[07:03] <HankMoody> It's been so long since I fucked with randr I'm unfortunately no help here. And when I did I didn't use it too extensively. If I'm not mistaken I went back to x11vnc due to something lacking in randr
[07:04] <drunk_coder> HandheldPenguin: my tightvncserver version 1.3.9
[07:04] <drunk_coder> maybe coz it's too old?
[07:06] <drunk_coder> i'm looking on the site. http://www.tightvnc.com/licensing-tvnserver.php trying to get the lastest VNC server software... but i didn't find the download link...
[07:07] <HankMoody> Might I inquire as to why you're not running the one in the repos?
[07:07] <HankMoody> That one's 1.3.10 in 16.10
[07:11] <HankMoody> Making a tweak to my openvpn/server.conf, if I drop out I'll be back.
[07:16] <Roshan> Hi GUys, Can i have commands to install phpmyadmin for mysql 5.6 ?
[07:16] <Phanes-> someone seriously thought it was a good idea in apt-get to suppress ctrl+c and not roll back during failed configurations?
[07:18] <Roshan> I am getting this error "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5-5.6/ubuntu/ trusty/main php5-common i386 5.6.23+dfsg-1+deprecated+dontuse+deb.sury.org~trusty+1
[07:18] <Roshan>   404  Not Found
[07:18] <Roshan> "
[07:19] <Seveas> Roshan: we don't support ppa's, and this ppa seems to have issues anyway. Remove it from your config.
[07:20] <Phanes-> grr. i had to exit out of the configure script apt-get runs when you install ntop, removed the package, now when i go to reinstall it doesn't launch the configure script again
[07:20] <HankMoody> Phanes-: I believe ctrl+c is indeed there (done it a few times mid compile myself) its' reaction time(s) can be varied depending on what you're downloading/compiling. About not rolling back though, that sucks :-/
[07:20] <Seveas> Phanes-: sudo apt-get remove --purge ntop
[07:20] <Seveas> then reinstall.
[07:20] <Phanes-> how do i get it to work in a way that doesn't pollute my filesystem when i remove
[07:20] <Phanes-> perfect
[07:20] <Phanes-> thanks
[07:20] <Seveas> normal uninstalls leave configuration around, --purge removes those
[07:20] <HankMoody> But I would apt-get purge the package, gets rid of everything associated with it, configs and all.
[07:21] <HankMoody> Ah, Seveas beat me to it.
[07:21] <Phanes-> awesome feature.  really should be the default
[07:21] <Blue1> That makes it, so it's Dead, Jim!
[07:21] <Roshan> seveas, How can i get rid of this ?
[07:21] <Seveas> Blue1: there's klingons on the starboard bow...
[07:21] <Roshan> Seveas, please help to get this figure out.
[07:21] <Seveas> Roshan: remove the relevant file from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and run apt-get update
[07:22] <HankMoody> Glad to see other Trekkies in here Blue1 and Seveas :D
[07:22] <Roshan> Seveas, okay let me try
[07:22] <Blue1> Seveas: ;-)
[07:22] <Seveas> HankMoody: more a fan of the firm than a trekkie :)
[07:23] <HankMoody> Haha, well you recognized it, that's more than most people do, haha
[07:23] <HankMoody> Okay, I've got a bit of a weird issue that I haven't been able to come to a conclusion on... On one of my monitors I keep syslog, denyhosts, and auth.log open in terminals with "tail -f /var/log/xxxxx" Somehow this time my auth.log is stuck back from 2/8/17. I even tried opening up the auth.log.1 and it's even further back to the 6th. Anyone have any idea what the issue could be?
[07:23] <Roshan> Seveas, I have to remove these files "ondrej-mysql-5_6-trusty.list
[07:23] <Roshan> ondrej-php5-5_6-trusty.list
[07:23] <Roshan> ondrej-php5-5_6-trusty.list.save
[07:23] <Roshan> ondrej-php-trusty.list
[07:23] <Roshan> ondrej-php-trusty.list.save
[07:23] <Roshan> "
[07:24] <Seveas> Roshan: yup, all of them.
[07:25] <HankMoody> And I've got an OpenVPN question if anyone's pretty knowledgeable in there. I've asked in #OpenVPN but the two guys that had a good idea of what I was wanting to do are either passed out drunk or not on at the moment.
[07:25] <Seveas> HankMoody: files in /var/log get rotated. Try tail -F
[07:25] <Blue1> HankMoody: I am okay with openvpn -- not an expert - what's the issue
[07:26] <HankMoody> Seveas that's what my first assumption was, so I ctrl+C'd it and re did it, and checked in cat and gedit, nothing's been written to either auth.log since the 8th
[07:28] <Seveas> HankMoody: odd. Maybe syslof didn't get HUP'ed properly. Try restarting your syslog daemon. Or just use journalctl to read logs :)
[07:29] <HankMoody> Blue1: Little bit of a long winded story here. Ended up switching back from Debian to Ubuntu over this last weekend and had an OpenVPN (tun) setup that would log me into my home network and allow me to access my media server (Ultimate Media Server DLNA/UPNP), VNC server, and my samba shares. When I formatted the root partition to go back to Ubuntu I forgot to save my damned server.conf file. With the old tun setup I could log in but not get
[07:29] <HankMoody> any access to the Internet (no big just wanted media server) and now that I've reinstalled it w/ Ubuntu I can't seem to replicate the old settings I had... I can get Internet access now when I'm dialed in through the VPN, but it won't find UMS, the Samba shares or the VNC servers (broadcasted on avahi/bonjour)
[07:29] <Blue1> HankMoody: I am off to bed, this may/may not help. http://www.pkill-9.com/openvpn-revisited-howto-install-configure-openvpn/
[07:30] <HankMoody> Seveas will do, I'll let you know what happens.
[07:30] <HankMoody> Excellent Blue1 thank you. I hope it will. Going to be out of town next week, and a 12 hour car trip sucks not being able to stream anything, haha.
[07:33] <Blue1> HankMoody: the 3 hour tour wasn't long enough, eh?  night folks.
[07:35] <Seveas> HankMoody: one subnet on the server side or more than one? If more than one, push all routes or redirect-gateway
[07:35] <Seveas> redirect-gateway also helps with getting internet access
[07:35] <Seveas> and don't forget to allow packet forwarding, and possibly nat'ing (in case of doing internet access through the vpn)
[07:36] <Roshan> Seveas, remove what's next ?
[07:36] <Seveas> Roshan: sudo apt-get update
[07:37] <Roshan> Seveas,  done
[07:37] <Seveas> no more 404's?
[07:38] <HankMoody> Seveas: Only 1 subnet (255.255.255.0), the media server is also being hosted on the OpenVPN server (my desktop is essentially a server with monitors). I know it's capable of doing this. I was dicking around with it last night and when I started up the media server it accidentally was set to broadcast over the tun as opposed to enp0s10.
[07:39] <Seveas> HankMoody: pastebin server.conf, client.conf and the output of 'ip a' and 'ip r' on both sides (after establishing the tunnel)
[07:40] <HankMoody> I've got all of the routes set to push (from the server and from the client just to make sure I'm not over looking anything), client to client is uncommented, fuck it I'm just gonna pastebin it for you, easier that way
[07:40] <HankMoody> Ahhh great minds ;)
[07:40] <HankMoody> one sec
[07:40] <Seveas> (if the client is done with networkmanager: not client.conf but nmcli con show name-of-vpn-connection-here)
[07:41] <HankMoody> server.conf ----> http://pastebin.com/g3qLM6pi
[07:42] <HankMoody> Nah the client is my tablet/phone. I'll throw the .ovpn certificate on my laptop before I leave, but won't be using it to stream much, just in the hotels.
[07:44] <Seveas> server.conf seems reasonable. Can the client ping the server's tun0 address? And the enp0s10 address?
[07:45] <Roshan> Seveas,  Now I am getting this while installing  mysql "2017-02-10 13:14:33 26798 [Note] InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process using the same InnoDB data or log files"
[07:45] <Seveas> well, is there another mysql process already running?
[07:46] <HankMoody> client.conf --> http://pastebin.com/kUEzefVa
[07:46] <HankMoody> yessir it can
[07:47] <Seveas> so the problem isn't openvpn.
[07:47] <Seveas> what is the client trying to access that fails? Another ip on the local vlan?
[07:48] <HankMoody> No just my media server broadcasted from the enp0s10 address
[07:49] <Seveas> intriguing
[07:49] <Seveas> can the server ping the client's openvpn ip?
[07:49] <HankMoody> and if I switch the device the media server is broadcasted from (from enp0s10 to tun0) it shows up just fine.
[07:50] <Seveas> what's the output of cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[07:51] <HankMoody> I can ping the client from enp0s10. How would I go about pinging from the tun addy? I don't think I've ever tried to take ahold of that device from a terminal before
[07:52] <HankMoody> output of /cat/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is "1"
[07:52] <Seveas> any iptables rules?
[07:53] <Seveas> is the client trying to access the media server by ip or relying on a discovery mechanism?
[07:54] <Seveas> for the pinging: ping -I tun0. But testing from the enp0s10 address is better, so don't bother :)
[07:54] <Roshan> Seveas, getting dependencies error while installing phpmyadmin
[07:55] <HankMoody> ip tables --> http://pastebin.com/dNrz3Dec
[07:55] <Roshan> Seveas, here are the list of dependencies"Depends: php but it is not installable
[07:55] <Roshan>               Depends: php-mysql but it is not installable
[07:55] <Roshan>               Depends: php-mbstring but it is not installable
[07:55] <Roshan>               Depends: php-xml
[07:55] <Roshan>               Recommends: php-curl but it is not installable
[07:55] <Roshan>               Recommends: php-gd but it is not installable
[07:55] <Seveas> Roshan: use a pastebing.
[07:56] <Seveas> Roshan: also, you'll need to purge your system of packages installed from that broken ppa. Probably best to remove all php related packages and reinstall the ones you need.
[07:56] <Seveas> HankMoody: yuck. ufw has pooped all over your iptables rules :)
[07:56] <Roshan> what is pastebing ?
[07:57] <HankMoody> It's relying on discovery. The program I'm using on the tablet (Android tablet) is Media House. I use it here at the house sometimes if I'm not in my room at the computer/PS4 and wanting to stream something. It's a really nice app actually. I wish Apple's App Store had something like it.
[07:57] <cfhowlett> Roshan, pastebin --- use it to paste your output
[07:57] <Roshan> okay
[07:57] <HankMoody> Yeah, I followed the OpenVPN guide setting it back up and after redoing it 3-4 times to see what I messed up I used a digitalocean guide I found
[07:57] <Seveas> HankMoody: the discovery most likely relies on broadcast packets. Those only work on a single subnet.
[07:58] <Seveas> that's why it works when you bind it to tun0
[07:58] <Seveas> can the media server use multiple interfaces? If not, maybe start two: one on each interface.
[07:59] <HankMoody> and they used ufw. Honestly I don't use a firewall on this thing, the only ports I have open to the outside are SSH and the VPN. Which is why I'd like to have it running agiain.
[07:59] <Seveas> HankMoody: ufw isn't bad. I'm just an old fart who likes his handcrafted artisanal iptables rulesets :)
[08:00] <HankMoody> Yeah I thought about two instances, but I'll also need access to the VNC server(s) I've got on the network if I need to deal with some networking issue when I'm out of town.
[08:00] <Seveas> that's a different issue
[08:00] <Seveas> that'll involve some routing or nat'ing changes. Is your server the gateway box for the local network?
[08:01] <HankMoody> Honestly if I could reproduce the settings I had before (running them on the same subnet, and just not having access to the net while logged into the VPN) would be fine with me.
[08:03] <HankMoody> No, mine's just set on a static IP and we're hooked into a NetGear R6300; which of course then runs to the cable modem.
[08:06] <Seveas> ok, then you'll need to nat the vpn traffic so the vnc servers will route the packets back to your server
[08:08] <HankMoody> I'm a god damned idiot. I was simply thinking about getting to it via avahi.. If I just save the info in the VNC client I'll be able to hop in it as soon as I'm logged into the VPN anyway.
[08:11] <HankMoody> The only thing I seem to be lacking (other than the media server not being picked up by the media player/client) is my iMac's VNC. When I try and point the VPN towards it' IP address it says "invalid address"
[08:12] <HankMoody> But there it goes, had the wrong port entered
[08:16] <anacoreta> ciao
[08:21] <HankMoody> Seveas: I appreciate your help and I have just but one more question for you: do you know of a way that I could knowingly PUT the clients on the same subnet as the rest of the devices and be able to have the discovery portion work. If it doesn't allow access to the Internet from the VPN client like last time that's fine.. Just as long as the other devices have access to the Internet.
[08:24] <Seveas> no, that won't be possible without extremely dodgy hacks
[08:30] <HankMoody> Gotcha gotcha. Well at least I'll be able to log into the VNC server to restart the media server over to tun when I'm on the road.
[08:31] <HankMoody> Hmm, I'm almost wondering if I should have just setup a tap/bridged connection instead of fighting with the tun one. Probably would have cost me less time from messing with it all week, haha.
[08:32] <drunk_coder> HankMoody: i use tiger vnc , which is much better
[08:34] <HankMoody> drunk_coder: I'll check it out. I've had x11vnc running so long as an X start up process I've just forgotten it was there. Only thing I use the VNC server for when I'm at the house is essentially as a remote control to adjust volume/fast forward/adjust the volume when I'm watching stuff from across the room.
[08:35] <HankMoody> The connection to x11vnc isn't encrypted though, so I've never been happy about that and that's something I've meant to do.
[08:35] <b3h3m0th> Is it possible to have pam_faillock on ubuntu ?
[08:37] <HankMoody> Son of a bitch, does anyone know the ports for netatalk/afpd/time machine offhand? Looks like there's some more ports I need to open on ufw.
[08:40] <anddam> hello
[08:41] <HankMoody> Hello anddam what may we help you with this evening? Or morning... Or probably day if you're on the other side of the world.
[08:41] <anddam> is there a way to "reorganize" Rhythmbox library? I.e. saying "consolidate all songs that are not in it and reorganize the fs hierarchy according to the settings
[08:41] <anddam> HankMoody: 9:40 here in CET
[08:43] <HankMoody> Halfway across the world then ;)
[08:43] <DevAntoine> I've got a bad feeling about this: http://pastebin.com/NBRx0ZFc
[08:45] <Seveas> HankMoody: tap is more trouble than it's worth
[08:46] <HankMoody> That's what I've read/gotten the impression of.
[08:46] <anddam> Seveas: tap as in the kernel devices?
[08:47] <anddam> HankMoody: still in need of that netatalk port info?
[08:47] <HankMoody> port 548 (timemachine backups) for what it's worth.
[08:47] <HankMoody> Nope, thanks though anddam. Just scanned through all of the things ufw was blocking and figured it out.
[08:47] <anddam> yep, the only one I see on my netatalk local server
[08:48] <b3h3m0th> HankMoody:  was gonna suggest that method ;)
[08:48] <HankMoody> haha, great minds.. great minds..
[08:48] <anddam> any hint about the Rhythmbox thing?
[08:49] <HankMoody> I'm sadly no help on that. I've never used rhythm box before :(
[09:02] <anddam> I'm trying to live the full desktop experience
[09:08] <Psychonaut> anddam, Are you looking for this -> https://launchpad.net/rb-fileorganizer/
[09:09] <anddam> mmm I'm vary to answer "yes" since that seems ruby
[09:09] <anddam> ;-)
[09:10] <anddam> yes, I think that's it
[09:10] <anddam> thanks
[09:19] <HankMoody> Allllright guys, now that I've got most of the stuff I need setup, I'm gonna go play some Madden for a while before I pass out.. Haven't played that at ALL this week since I've been messing with getting this thing back on its' feet.
[09:22] <fsociety[00]dat> both client and server systems freezes when I copy large amount files over nfs4; computers are directly cable connected. What should I do?
[09:24] <tatertots> fsociety[00]dat: does the symptom occur with nfs3?
[09:25] <fsociety[00]dat> tatertots, I use "mount -t nfs4 server client"
[09:26] <Ankammarao> Hi , getting error checkusm miamtch for one of the package on ubuntu
[09:27] <anddam> I quitted Rhythmbox but the system is still playing music
[09:27] <anddam> is that expected?
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> anddam:  quit or closed the GUI?
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> there is background play feature. ControlQ for quitting.
[09:29] <anddam> did alf+F4
[09:29] <anddam> alt
[09:30] <anddam> but the alt-tab switcher didn't list rhythmbox anymore, I thought it was closed
[09:30] <anddam> even tho' I figure there has to be a process playing the music, if it's coming out of the headphones
[09:30] <fsociety[00]dat> Ankammarao, may be u can clean the cache and refresh ur database. "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update" and try installing ur package again.
[09:32] <Ankammarao> fsociety[00]dat, i am deploying the charm, so it takes the package from the remote and caliculate the cheskusm
[09:32] <anddam> Psychonaut: I installed the plugin but it doesn't get enabled/disabled like other ones coming from apt repo, and I don't see the Organize new item in contextual menu
[09:32] <anddam> I figure it's not made for latest rhythmbox version (yet)
[09:32] <Ankammarao> fsociety[00]dat, i tried with the apt-get clean and apt-get update but no use
[09:34] <Psychonaut> anddam, http://askubuntu.com/questions/112668/how-do-i-force-rhythmbox-to-automatically-organise-my-music-files-into-folders
[09:36] <Psychonaut> anddam, if you want avoid hassle install clementine music player it comes with library organizer
[09:37] <anddam> Psychonaut: so basically I'm lacking those two packages, py-eyed3 and gir
[09:37] <anddam> thanks again
[09:37] <anddam> I can live without the feature, it was juts out of curiosity
[09:37] <anddam> I just need to listen to music more than sort it on the fs
[09:45] <anddam> I'm getting a "libpeas-WARNING **: The 'python' plugin loader has not been enabled
[09:45] <anddam> and it seems it's due to libpeas dropping python 2 module loading, that the plugin apparently is
[09:45] <anddam> not worth the hassle, thanks again for the info
[09:47] <b3h3m0th> Is it required to restart any service after I change pam/login policy ?
[09:47] <anddam> Psychonaut: even switching the Loader setting in the plugin to python3 isn't enough because the code is actually py2
[09:53] <anddam> is dropbox-nautilus the proper package to install dropbox with integration for Unity?
[09:55] <HankMoody>  yes
[09:56] <HankMoody> Even in xfce I ran that package for Dropbox, you could still access it with Thunar or another file manager
[10:03] <spitzi> Hiya. I have a portable drive which I'd like to encrypt, in such a way that whenever the drive is plugged in, entering the correct password just once makes it work as if decrypted. Any suggestions_
[10:06] <b3h3m0th> https://askubuntu.com/questions/500981/how-to-encrypt-external-devices
[10:07] <b3h3m0th> http://www.howtogeek.com/115955/how-to-quickly-encrypt-removable-storage-devices-with-ubuntu/
[10:09] <Emma_Gination> Hi guys. When i try to install wget with yum I get this message: There are no enabled repos. I've tried following this guys advise http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/52666/how-do-i-install-the-stock-centos-repositories and editted the Centos-Base.repo. But that didn't help anything :(
[10:10] <anddam> Emma_Gination: why are you using yum?
[10:10] <Emma_Gination> idunno :P
[10:10] <tatertots> lol
[10:11] <tatertots> fail!
[10:11] <Emma_Gination> :(
[10:11] <anddam> does Ubuntu have a builtin cloud backup service?
[10:11] <Emma_Gination> i'm kinda struggling to realise the difference between apt-get, apt and yum
[10:11] <Speiros> Hi folks:)
[10:11] <Emma_Gination> should i just abandon yum?
[10:11] <anddam> well, apt-get belongs to APT, that is the traditional debian package manager upon which Ubuntu is based
[10:12] <anddam> yum is another software, I think it comes from RedHat but I'm not sure
[10:12] <FinalX> Emma_Gination: apt is a fancier/newer version of apt-get; basically does the same thing. yum is more of a rpm package manager for RedHat and derivatives.
[10:12] <anddam> wiki is your friend there
[10:12] <FinalX> and apt/apt-get are front-ends to install packages through dpkg
[10:12] <anddam> Emma_Gination: apt is one of the latest addition to APT interface, the one ring to rule them all instead of the traditional split commands
[10:12] <FinalX> there's also aptitude, for example
[10:13] <Speiros> I have two questions regarding the ifconfig command...They are based on "ifconfig <interfacetype> 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255".
[10:13] <anddam> whose search capabilities are way better than apt's
[10:13] <FinalX> and the graphical package manager. they all use the same package database and stuff.
[10:13] <Emma_Gination> ok, can i add repos to apt like i can for yum?
[10:13] <anddam> Emma_Gination: idk yum, but likely you can. Why not reading about APT rather than trying to move yum's knowledge there?
[10:13] <Speiros> The first is: Are there any dependencies that would no longer be able to connect if I choose to do this?
[10:14] <anddam> Emma_Gination: I mean where in first place did you get the hint about using yum?
[10:14] <Speiros> The second is: Is the broadcast address now accepted along with the old IP address, or is it now a new number?
[10:14] <Emma_Gination> anddam: a setupguide for jenkins :)
[10:14] <anddam> Emma_Gination: suggesting yum for ubuntu? hell of a guide...
[10:15] <Emma_Gination> well, actually the guide is using centos
[10:15] <anddam> Speiros: it's not clear what you mean with "dependencies" there
[10:15] <Emma_Gination> #feelingkindofstupidrightnow
[10:15] <BloodStone> anddam, Ubuntu have an app called Backups that you can configure remote ftp/ssh/smb server, or just a local folder that is linked to google-drive or dropbox
[10:15] <anddam> Emma_Gination: no big deal, point is default package manager in ubuntu is APT
[10:16] <anddam> Emma_Gination: likely you'll do the very same things, in a slightly different manner
[10:16] <Emma_Gination> right - but maybe i should've just spun up a centos machine instead
[10:16] <anddam> BloodStone: it's the one tied to the System Setting pane, right?
[10:16] <Speiros> Thanks anddam.  What I mean is, are there any services or programs that may be dependent on that number being what it originally was?  I don't understand whether it is just a mask, or whether it is a change of IP address.
[10:16] <anddam> BloodStone: I was thinking about having frequent local backup/rsync and one less frequent offsite sync
[10:18] <anddam> Speiros: what "number" are you specifically referring to? but I figure the answer is "no"
[10:18] <anddam> (client) programs won't be tied to a specific address, for regular user at least
[10:19] <Speiros> anddam The number being the IP address, but now being changed to the new broadcast addy.
[10:19] <anddam> be it an IP address or the broadcast one
[10:19] <Speiros> anddam I see.  I want to experiment, but not sure if I'll mess anything up in the process.
[10:19] <tatertots> Speiros: it would help if you just plainly state what you are trying to do...AND WHY
[10:19] <anddam> Speiros: mmm, not sure to follow, the IP address is not the same of the broadcast address
[10:19] <BloodStone> anddam Yes the default one, I would recommend using rsnapshot instead
[10:19] <anddam> sure they both belong to IPv4 but are not the same thing
[10:20] <anddam> BloodStone: does Ubuntu actually sell the service, a-la-icloud?
[10:20] <Speiros> tatertots I'm trying to understand the command, is all.  It came up in part of the Linux+ course, but wasn't clearly explained to me as to what I'm doing it for, or how it affects anything, as the walkthrough didn't go all the way through, "not to mess up" something or other.
[10:20] <anddam> BloodStone: I'd like to jut setup a ZFS local system and have it deal with diffs
[10:20] <anddam> BloodStone: also I'm looking at tarsnap
[10:21] <Speiros> I understand I am changing an interface IP address.  Is this correct or incorrect?
[10:21] <anddam> BloodStone: rsnapshot is interesting thanks
[10:21] <BloodStone> anddam  canonical use to have UbuntuOne cloud service, I am not sure if they have a similar thing to it now
[10:21] <anddam> Speiros: it depends what it was before, if it was 192.168.0.10 then you're not changing it
[10:22] <tatertots> Speiros: network+ is/was or should be a prerequisite to linux+, if you don't have any level of networking experience at all, prepare to be overwhelmed at times if not at all times
[10:22] <anddam> BloodStone: "In April 2014, Canonical announced that the cloud storage and synchronization features would be shut down at the end of July 31 of 2014"
[10:22] <Speiros> tatertots Ten years ago I did a certIV, but it was windows, and long forgotten.
[10:22] <anddam> I don't think that counts for anything
[10:23] <anddam> fun fact: it took a while to figure that what windows admins referred to with "network" wasn't a level 3 concept
[10:24] <Speiros> anddam So what is the command "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255" doing?  Is it not giving it the last IP address, or am I mistaken?
[10:25] <Speiros> anddam I want to experiment and see, but as the demonstration didn't complete, I am in a state of hesitance.
[10:26] <anddam> Speiros: yes it is assigning the IP address, along with netmask and broadcast address, what I meant is that if you are setting the IP address to 192.168.0.10 and it's the same value it was before then you're not actually "changing
[10:26] <anddam> " it
[10:26] <anddam> Speiros: but a simple network tutorial coverign IPv4 basics will help you more than experimenting at first, IMHO
[10:27] <anddam> that is: read a bit of theory, experiment to consolidate concepts, iterate previous two steps, profit
[10:27] <anddam> my two ents
[10:27] <anddam> cents
[10:27] <Speiros> anddam I was successful in this course before, excepting one or two minor points, so I'm filling in the bits I didn't grasp.
[10:28] <anddam> BloodStone: I like how rsnapshot.org front page suggests to read HOWTO on rsnapshot.org and that's nowhere to be found
[10:29] <anddam> :-)
[10:29] <BloodStone> lol let me see..
[10:29] <Speiros> anddam Excellent too.  So if I typed that command in, that would change my IP and Bcast to the new figures?
[10:30] <BloodStone> These days github is the front page ;) https://github.com/rsnapshot/rsnapshot
[10:34] <Speiros> anddam tatertots Thanks for your help lads:)  It worked, and I'm aware of what it does:)  I just needed someone there (goo!) as I take my first steps.
[10:34] <Speiros> :D
[10:34] <Speiros> anddam tatertots Now I will change them back.
[10:35] <anddam> BloodStone: bingo http://rsnapshot.org/rsnapshot/docs/docbook/rest.html
[10:36] <Speiros> Done:)
[10:43] <anddam> how do I configure the power button on my laptop to call the Unity dialog to reboot/shutdown ?
[10:43] <anddam> oh nvm
[10:43] <anddam> just a 2 seconds press
[10:43] <anddam> brilliant
[10:57] <BloodStone> anddam: <BloodStone: bingo http://rsnapshot.org/rsnapshot/docs/docbook/rest.html> right :)
[11:00] <giovannist> ciao
[11:01] <giovannist> qualcuno mi sa indicare un programmino per inominare files in massa?
[11:01] <giovannist> ho provato pyRename ma non mi permette di rinominare le cartelle
[11:01] <Speiros> giovannist !italian
[11:01] <Speiros> !italian
[11:01] <giovannist> oh wrong channel
[11:01] <Speiros> :)
[11:01] <giovannist> I translate xD
[11:02] <giovannist> someone can tell me an application/tool that can rename files and folders following some scheme?
[11:02] <giovannist> I tried pyRename but I didn't like it
[11:25] <Speiros> Ok, goodnight folks.  Thanks for your help anddam and tatertots:)
[11:25] <humoroustwo> Hello
[11:25] <humoroustwo> Is it possible to apply a theme to the unity launcher without changing the look of all of the drop down menus and windows?
[11:39] <hackour> Hi
[11:40] <hackour> guys I want link for eclipse java se 3.8.1
[11:40] <hackour> like the one on ubuntu
[11:41] <k1l_> hackour: can you explain what the issue is?
[11:41] <hackour> I want to install on archlinux
[11:41] <hackour> archlinux have the last version
[11:41] <hackour> and last version is so slow and not stable
[11:42] <k1l_> hackour: well, then ask #archlinux how to do that there
[11:42] <hackour> I am new on IRC
[11:43] <hackour> how i can connect to #archlinnux
[11:44] <k1l_> hackour: /j #channelname       so its "/j #archlinux" for you. maybe you need to register with freenode first. for help ask in #freenode
[11:44] <hackour> ok thank you
[11:48] <tilerendering> one of the main cool features of ubuntu lts distribs is: when you upgrade, it wont warn or prompt you about which packages wont be upgradeable and/or just disappear
[11:49] <SlashLife^m> Morning :)
[11:50] <SlashLife^m> Are there by chance default shortcuts to increase/decrease the volume?
[11:50] <SlashLife^m> If not: How would I go about adding them?
[11:51] <k1l_> tilerendering: can you rephrase that? (if you want to get support for that and not just rant)
[11:52] <tilerendering> well yeah: how come ubuntu didnt warn me about packages disappearing when upgrading from 14.04 lts to 16.04 lts. gitolite has just disappeared - now I have to “upgrade” it manually to gitolite3. If I would have known beforehand, if I hgad been warned, I wouldnt have done the upgrade process
[11:54] <geirha> it does show you lists of new packages, packages that will be upgraded, and packages that will be removed, and it asks for confirmation
[11:54] <tilerendering> geirha: strange I didnt have that
[11:54] <tilerendering> maybe I overlooked.
[12:08] <sruli> how can i make the keyring not remember the passphrase of my rsa_id.pub? i added it to my server to login with ssh but i want it should ask for passphrase on each attempt
[12:09] <k1l_> tilerendering: yes, that is why i wonder that you complain.
[12:09] <Woodtemple> morning fellas
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:30] <desperapdo> new
[12:31] <Woodtemple> e ae
[12:31] <desperapdo> i stall can't unstand
[12:32] <desperapdo> 有人吗
[12:32] <desperapdo> 有人吗
[12:32] <k1l_> !cn | desperapdo
[12:33] <gelei007> What s wrong
[12:50] <tarball> hello everyone, I installed ubuntu on an external disk partition with GPT format. the OS is shutting down randomly, or the desktop is appearing and disappearing again..could it be because of GPT format, or should I suspect the disk is not OK?
[12:50] <DonaldJTrump> tarball, idk but I can build a wall for you
[12:51] <k1l_> DonaldJTrump: please keep this channel clear for technical ubuntu support. thanks
[12:51] <DonaldJTrump> k1l_, ok honey
[12:51] <V7> Ban him
[12:51] <DonaldJTrump> no!
[12:51] <V7> :D
[12:51] <k1l_> tarball: gpt should not matter. maybe its a loose contact from the cable?
[12:52] <DonaldJTrump> :D
[12:53] <tarball> k1l_ indeed, I wouldn't exclude that because I already suspected whether the cable wasn't set firmly in the socket
[12:53] <V7> tarball: When you've installed this OS ? What version ? How did you installed it ?
[12:53] <tarball> v7, with a live dvd
[12:53] <tarball> V7 ^
[12:53] <V7> I think OS won't shutdown because of bad disk contact
[12:54] <V7> tarball: IRC clients don't look at case of letters :)
[12:54] <tarball> on the other hand, it never happened with that disk
[12:54] <V7> Look at "dmesg" maybe there's some crashes ?
[12:55] <V7> Have you installed any software which could do this ? I mean any software update tools or such a things ?
[12:55] <tarball> or else I guess would smartmontools help with the state of disk
[12:56] <V7> tarball: I don't think that this causes the Disk
[12:56] <CrazyTux> I just upgraded Xubuntu 16.04.1 installed on my laptop to 16.10. I just hope everything went fine and there won't be any hiccups.
[12:56] <V7> tarball: I think you should check the system
[12:56] <tarball> v7 I installed a whole bunch of software, and truly, it first showed the above anomalies when I was almost done with the package installs
[12:56] <k1l_> tarball: yes. but you could look into the syslog and dmesg logs in /var/log to see what happens before the crash
[12:56] <tarball> k1l_, sure, looking now
[12:57] <john_rambo> I am trying to flash my Android using Lubuntu so far I have done these steps >>>http://paste.ubuntu.com/23966609/ ...Its stuck at <Waiting for device>..Any suggestions ?
[12:58] <DonaldJTrump> help me to instal ubunutu
[12:58] <k1l_> john_rambo: that means you need to put your android device into fastboot mode. that is a question for #android or the rom you want to flash
[12:58] <V7> john_rambo: Drivers ? Firmware ? Bad cable ?
[12:58] <V7> DonaldJTrump: Are you trolling ?
[12:59] <V7> john_rambo: fastboot is quite ... hard tool for newers ...
[12:59] <V7> Do you have any windows ?
[12:59] <DonaldJTrump> V7, nowhy would i be trolololing
[12:59] <V7> DonaldJTrump: What issue you have ?
[12:59] <V7> do you *
[13:00] <k1l_> V7: no need for windows or such. he just needs to make sure the device is waiting in the proper mode. but that is an device issue
[13:00] <john_rambo> V7, No, I dont maintain any Windows .... Any link to any tutorial about how to flash the firmware under linux ?
[13:00] <DonaldJTrump> V7, i dont know howto install uburuntu
[13:00] <anddam> k1l_: I'd start with an lsusb
[13:00] <anddam> V7: so, "yes"
[13:01] <k1l_> john_rambo: its the same like on windows. you need to make sure the android device is in the proper mode. please ask the android guys how that works for your device
[13:01] <k1l_> !install | DonaldJTrump
[13:01] <john_rambo> Okay
[13:02] <DonaldJTrump> thanks ubootu
[13:03] <tarball> k1l_ the dmesg file says 'nothing has been logged yet', and the dmesg command shows a long output without any date, but I guess it is from the current session, in which no anomaly is visible yet
[13:03] <V7> john_rambo: http://www.linuxslaves.com/2015/07/install-android-tools-adb-fastboot-on-ubuntu-linux.html
[13:03] <V7> john_rambo: Do you have ADB enabled on your device ?!
[13:04] <k1l_> V7: he already installed the proper tools. its only that his device is not in fastboot mode
[13:04] <V7> anddam: ? :)
[13:04] <V7> k1l_: ADB should be enabled on both devices
[13:04] <k1l_> V7: doesnt matter for flashing the recovery
[13:04] <V7> I...
[13:04] <k1l_> please dont just guess
[13:04] <V7> john_rambo: ?
[13:05] <V7> k1l_: ?
[13:05] <V7> john_rambo: http://www.rojtberg.net/668/how-to-root-android-using-ubuntu/
[13:05] <k1l_> V7: the error is very forward and you are confusing with wrong advices
[13:05] <john_rambo> V7, Reading .....
[13:05] <V7> k1l_: haha
[13:05] <V7> k1l_: Go away ... please let do my job
[13:06] <k1l_> V7: sorry, but you are giving wrong advice
[13:06] <V7> john_rambo: If you have any devices listed via "adb devices" command that means that all's going OK !
[13:06] <V7> k1l_: sry ... but you're talking bullshit
[13:06] <V7> john_rambo: Maybe you need add some rules to udev
[13:07] <V7> john_rambo: This file /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[13:07] <k1l_> john_rambo: ok, good luck with the help from V7. i suggested you make sure the device is in fastboot mode, which is needed to flash the recovery.
[13:07] <alwyn> Hi! With automatic security upgrades _without_ autoremove enabled, sometimes the /boot directory gets full. What is the best way to fix this?
[13:07] <V7> k1l_: Please don't be such an idiot
[13:08] <DonaldJTrump> ubuntu gave me cancer pls pay for my chemotherapy Drone`
[13:08] <john_rambo> V7, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23966653/
[13:08] <DonaldJTrump> V7, alwyn k1l_ john_rambo
[13:08] <DonaldJTrump> i love you all
[13:08] <k1l_> V7: sorry, you are missing the issue that john_rambo has.
[13:08] <V7> k1l_: muted
[13:08] <V7> john_rambo: No device ?
[13:09] <alwyn> ...
[13:09] <k1l_> alwyn: without removing the old packages you need a very big /boot then.
[13:09] <john_rambo> V7, I have booted the device by pressing the the vol+power key
[13:09] <p3rL> hello ??
[13:10] <p3rL> i need help related ubuntu
[13:10] <k1l_> p3rL: just ask :)
[13:11] <alwyn> k1l_: yes of course :) So in case you forgot to enable autoremove, and the partition has run out of space. What would be the best course of action?
[13:11] <p3rL> i had downloaded latest ubuntu dekstop but its not working while i boot it on my usb
[13:11] <sruli> how can i make the keyring not remember the passphrase of my rsa_id.pub? i added it to my server to login with ssh but i want it should ask for passphrase on each attempt
[13:11] <p3rL> there is no auto run file
[13:11] <k1l_> alwyn: use dpkg to remove old kernel packages manually
[13:11] <k1l_> alwyn: since you dont want automated removal you will need to do that manually.
[13:12] <anddam> my "yes" was referred to your earlier questino to DonaldJTrump if he was trolling
[13:12] <anddam> he was
[13:12] <k1l_> alwyn: if its not already full you can use apt to remove the packages. either remove the package manually or run apt autoremove
[13:12] <p3rL> waiting for my answer ??
[13:12] <anddam> V7: also I agree with k1l_ that the adb hint was not relevant in the fastboot context, adb is a service and a protocol once the system is running
[13:13] <anddam> fastboot is implemented in firmware
[13:13] <k1l_> p3rL: you need to "burn" that onto the usb. you cant just copy it there. what OS are you on?
[13:13] <tarball> but when I open syslog, it shows a warning like this, though the syslogs seems nowhere to have unusual characters: paste.ubuntu.com/23966666
[13:13] <p3rL> i use rufus but there is no autorun file in iso
[13:13] <anddam> k1l_: hopefully he won't actually burn the device
[13:14] <p3rL> ubuntu12 works but 16 not
[13:14] <p3rL> boot file not found
[13:14] <k1l_> p3rL: "no autorun file"? what iso did you use? rufus should work with the ubuntu isos
[13:14] <anddam> good old "it doesn't work"
[13:14] <alwyn> k1l_: running apt-get autoremove will fail, as the partition is out of space.
[13:14] <alwyn> But I haven't tried the dpkg method directly yet
[13:14] <k1l_> alwyn: as i said: if the packagemanagment is already blocked use dpkg then
[13:16] <p3rL> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.10/ubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:16] <p3rL> there is no autorun when rufus finish the boot
[13:16] <tarball> and then I find this in syslogs: paste.ubuntu.com/2366669
[13:17] <akik> p3rL: linux doesn't use autorun.inf
[13:17] <k1l_> p3rL: you need to reboot to install ubuntu
[13:17] <k1l_> you cant install it from within windows
[13:17] <p3rL> i have ubuntu 12 iso but its work fine when i burn it to on my usb
[13:18] <p3rL> wubi.exe and autorun
[13:18] <k1l_> p3rL: wubi is not working anymore
[13:18] <k1l_> p3rL: so reboot and choose the usb to boot from
[13:18] <tarball> the same message appears at the moment of first random shutdown, too, with only the temperature different (100 C)
[13:18] <p3rL> so how can i install ubuntu on my pc
[13:19] <k1l_> p3rL: reboot
[13:20] <k1l_> tarball: i suggest you first make a smart test of that disk.
[13:20] <antoinebodin> $ni
[13:20] <tarball> k1l_ sorry, correcting the paste link; paste.ubuntu.com/23966669
[13:21] <k1l_> tarball: yes, that is causing the shutdown
[13:21] <tarball> k1l_ that means the disk is not OK?
[13:22] <k1l_> tarball: what cpu is that? is that a laptop?
[13:22] <tarball> k1l_ yes
[13:22] <CrazyTux> any package equivalent to skype that is available for Xubuntu?
[13:23] <_sfiguser> hello all, i have a dependency problem... whatever action i try to do with apt  it tells me that there are dependency problems, with mysql-common and that it requires version 5.17.16 but 5.17.17 is installed... what does this mean ?
[13:23] <k1l_> CrazyTux: skype is closed software and you can only connect to skype with their clients.
[13:23] <tarball> k1l_ it is i5
[13:23] <k1l_> _sfiguser: is that a desktop?
[13:23] <CrazyTux> ok
[13:24] <CrazyTux> can I use skype on Xubuntu?
[13:24] <k1l_> tarball: what laptop modell is it? maybe that is a known issue for that laptop
[13:24] <alwyn> CrazyTux: you can use the Skype web client...
[13:24] <k1l_> CrazyTux: should work
[13:24] <CrazyTux> ok. I'll try web client
[13:24] <_V7> john_rambo: internet issue sorry
[13:25] <tarball> k1l_ but it is not a problem with the HDD, it happens with the externally connected OS
[13:25] <k1l_> !skype | CrazyTux
[13:26] <k1l_> tarball: does this work when you run ubuntu from the internal hdd? or does it work with another OS on the internal hdd?
[13:27] <tarball> k1l_ on internal hdd I dont have this problem
[13:28] <k1l_> tarball: which os is running their? (just ruling out if its a linux or kernel isse, or a ubuntu isse, or due to the external hdd)
[13:30] <CrazyTux> ok. thanks a lot.
[13:30] <tarball> k1l_ you mean on external disk?
[13:30] <k1l_> tarball: no, on internal#
[13:30] <tarball> k1l_ 16.04.1
[13:30] <k1l_> tarball: if the same ubuntu or linux is working properly on the internal disk, then the cause will be the external disk. that is what i try to figure out
[13:32] <tarball> k1l_ on external disk I have 15.10., though
[13:32] <k1l_> tarball: hmm. 15.10 is dead since some months anyway. there will be no fixes if the issue is inside 15.10
[13:33] <tarball> k1l_ maybe check disk first and then if all is ok upgrade to 16.04.1?
[13:33] <adac> Is tehre a way that I can show the whole hostname in the bash prompt? my hostname currently is vpn.example.com but the bash prompt only shows "vpn"
[13:33] <k1l_> tarball: you need to upgrade anyway.
[13:33] <tarball> k1l_ 'need to' ? :)
[13:34] <k1l_> tarball: yes. 15.10 is dead.
[13:34] <k1l_> tarball: 15.10 was ended july 2016
[13:35] <k1l_> tarball: non-LTS ubuntu releases only have 9 months support timeframe.look here: https://media-cdn.ubuntu-de.org/wiki/thumbnails/1/16/163ef85278cb7a898c91e31448a6d4dfc7eca0ffix300.png
[13:37] <k1l_> adac: yes
[13:37] <tarball> k1l_, oh, yes, sure. I will upgrade, but that might have caused the temperature problem?
[13:37] <k1l_> change the \h to \H in the bashrc
[13:39] <tarball> k1l_ short test returned no error, now trying the long one.
[13:40] <adac> k1l_, ok thanks!
[13:43] <KlausedSource> hey everyone, I want to bulkrename pictures with the tr command. I found a working solution here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139699/remove-special-character-from-files-in-directory and integrated this in a script. So far so good. The problem is when I have a file with spaces in them (and theres a lot of those) the program fails because (i think) bash can't read the space
[13:43] <KlausedSource> do you know how i could fix htis?
[13:44] <geirha> quote parameter expansions and command substitutions
[13:44] <KlausedSource> when i have a file "te\ st" (\ -> escaped space) tr returns ./normalize.sh: line 2: te: No such file or directory
[13:44] <KlausedSource> ./normalize.sh: line 2: st.jpg: No such file or directory
[13:45] <KlausedSource> ah sry the file was called "te\ st.jpg" and i handed *.jpg to the script
[13:45] <KlausedSource> so it behaved as if there would be 2 files
[13:46] <geirha> you are definitely missing quotes
[13:46] <KlausedSource> geirha, where would i put them? in the arguments for tr?
[13:47] <KlausedSource> tr -cd a-z,A-Z,0-9,- "\n" < $file > $file.1;
[13:47] <KlausedSource> is what i have atm
[13:47] <geirha> tr -cd a-z,A-Z,0-9,- "\n" < "$file" > "$file.1"
[13:47] <KlausedSource> geirha, same result
[13:48] <geirha> well, the error is from a different line, but you need those quotes there as well
[13:49] <KlausedSource> geirha, http://dpaste.com/06HCQTZ
[13:49] <geirha> I'm guessing you did something like   for file in $*; do   if so, change it to  for file in "$@"; do
[13:49] <akik> KlausedSource: what's in $1 ?
[13:49] <geirha> ah $1, that's would just iterate the words of the first filename. Change it to "$@"
[13:49] <geirha> includign the quotes
[13:50] <geirha> also, for the tr, there's no point in including the comma more than once
[13:51] <tarball> k1l_ thank you very much!
[13:52] <KlausedSource> akik, the file name
[13:52] <KlausedSource> akik, or names
[13:53] <geirha> KlausedSource: no, if you run   yourscript *.jpg   then $1 will be the first filename, $2 the second filename and so forth
[13:53] <KlausedSource> geirha, ye you are right i changed it to $@
[13:54] <geirha>  "$@", not $@
[13:54] <KlausedSource> the script seems to run now, but im not satisfied with the result.
[13:54] <KlausedSource> yes with the quotes ofc
[13:54] <KlausedSource> it did not remove the space in the filename
[13:54] <geirha> KlausedSource: it changes the content of the files, not the filenames
[13:55] <KlausedSource> omg i am stupid
[13:55] <JP____> My system doesn't recognize my usb :(
[13:55] <geirha> If you want to remove whitespace from filenames, this is one way: for file in *" "*; do mv -i -- "$file" "${file// }"; done
[13:55] <JP____> Any ideas?
[13:55] <KlausedSource> i obv need to put mv in there somehow
[13:56] <geirha> another is using the perl rename command:  prename -v 's/ //g' ./*" "*
[13:57] <KlausedSource> JP____, try lsblk, see if it is shown there
[13:57] <geirha> KlausedSource: More ways explained here: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/030
[13:57] <JP____> KlausedSource: is that a CLI command?
[13:57] <KlausedSource> yes
[13:57] <KlausedSource> geirha, thx for the link
[13:58] <JP____> KlausedSource: doesn't appear
[13:59] <KlausedSource> JP____, pull it out, open a terminal and type: tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[13:59] <KlausedSource> then put it in
[13:59] <KlausedSource> prob gonna need a sudo in front of the tail command
[14:00] <KlausedSource> alternatively after you put it in, you could also just type "dmesg" in terminal
[14:00] <KlausedSource> it shows you the last kernel messages
[14:01] <KlausedSource> so when there are errors, you can learn from those
[14:02] <JP____> KlausedSource: My USB-stick was fucked
[14:02] <JP____> :(
[14:02] <JP____> But thnx
[14:07] <Online_> I have a LUKS partition holding LVM-contained root and home partitions.  My problem seems to be that the system has gone from treating the device as a 2048-byte blocksize device to treating it as a 512-byte blocksize device, skewing the data from the expected boundaries (LUKS header does not line up to the expected partition boundary). Any ideas?
[14:15] <tarball> hello again :) I am getting the message that I need 3.3GB more space for the upgrade in my / folder, while I already have almost 5GB free ?!
[14:15] <tarball> I mean, it asks me to free some more
[14:16] <dharma> hi
[14:17] <dharma> what vpn is best for ubuntu
[14:17] <sruli> openvpn
[14:18] <dharma> but it isnt working
[14:18] <dharma> our college is using cyberoam
[14:18] <sruli> explain the problem in detail
[14:18] <_sfiguser> k1l_, yes
[14:18] <dharma> its blocking games
[14:18] <dharma> majorly
[14:18] <dharma> i love to paly games
[14:19] <sruli> whats the problem with openvpn? is it connecting?
[14:19] <k1l_> _sfiguser: the go to system settings , software and udpates. then make sure security repos are enabled
[14:20] <_sfiguser> k1l_, sure ?
[14:21] <k1l_> _sfiguser: is it?
[14:21] <dharma> actually
[14:22] <dharma> they made a captive  portal
[14:22] <dharma> its blocking
[14:22] <sruli> dharma: it blocks after u login to captive portal?
[14:22] <dharma> yes
[14:23] <dharma> if you dont login then it dont connects to anypage
[14:23] <dharma> it redirects to login page
[14:23] <RonWhoCares> Could someone take a look at my question @ http://askubuntu.com/q/881926/453336
[14:23] <sruli> dharma: so you successfully connect to captive portal, after when you try to connect to vpn it blocks it?
[14:24] <sruli> RonWhoCares: what filesystem is it?
[14:24] <k1l_> tarball: if it needs additional space then you need to free some more. like run "sudo apt autoremove" or delete big installed files
[14:24] <dharma> yes
[14:24] <dharma> sruli:yes
[14:24] <sruli> dharma: vpn uses port 1194?
[14:25] <RonWhoCares> sruli: I bet you that's the problem!
[14:25] <sruli> RonWhoCares: but which filesystem is it?
[14:26] <RonWhoCares> sruli: I think it is the Windows partition.  "  df -h " just shows " dev/sdb1 " in the Filesystem .  It is the default format from Western Digital
[14:27] <k1l_> RonWhoCares: "sudo parted -l" will show it
[14:27] <dharma> hey
[14:28] <RonWhoCares> k1l_ msdos
[14:28] <k1l_> RonWhoCares: please put that on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[14:28] <dharma> i am not that much good at vpns to change port
[14:28] <k1l_> RonWhoCares: and please run "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output link here
[14:29] <sruli> dharma: usually vpn uses port 1149, if your connection blocks it try fining a vpn provider who support port 443 or port 80 (many do)
[14:29] <dharma> dude
[14:29] <dharma> i am using ubuntu
[14:30] <dharma> it is for windows open vpn
[14:30] <RonWhoCares> k1l_: There was no output link   rpiggott@rpiggott-HP-G61-Notebook-PC:/$ dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 |  rpiggott@rpiggott-HP-G61-Notebook-PC:/$
[14:31] <tarball> k1l_ hello again :) the extended smart test is completed without error..and I couldn't upgrade because I got the error that I needed a bit more space, though the free space on disk is way higher than needed (~5GB vs. 3,3GB)..
[14:31] <sruli> dharma: i dont understand what you are saying, are you using openvpn?
[14:31] <k1l_> RonWhoCares: one | too much at the end
[14:32] <k1l_> tarball: the installer might need 3Gb additional space. (adding to the 5gb). that depends on how you got installed there.
[14:32] <k1l_> tarball: so run "sudo apt autoremove" and see if you can free up some space
[14:33] <meandrain> hi. I have a machine configured with manual IP but I have no file in /etc/network/interfaces.d and /etc/network/interfaces has only lo0 configured. Any idea where should I look to change the IP ?
[14:33] <RonWhoCares> k1l_: I added this separate to represent a \r\n so as not to spam this channel
[14:34] <k1l_> RonWhoCares: ok. if "dmesg" doesnt bring any output that is strange
[14:34] <k1l_> RonWhoCares: looking at your askubuntu question: reiserfs? who did make that filesystem onto the external disk?
[14:35] <RonWhoCares> k1l_: Factory format
[14:37] <RonWhoCares> k1l_: The scenario going on is this: My hard drive is quickly dying.  The external hard drive is so I won't loose everything while I wait for the replacement hard drive to arrive by mail.  I can't wipe out my data or I am royally screwed
[14:38] <k1l_> i highly doubt wd will format external disks with reiserfs
[14:38] <ryzokuken> hey everyone!
[14:38] <ryzokuken> needed a little help/advice
[14:38] <ryzokuken> anyone up?
[14:39] <k1l_> RonWhoCares: that dmesg output would still be good to not wipe all your data
[14:39] <geirha> !ask
[14:39] <DArqueBishop> k1l_: I've certainly never seen it. All the ones I've seen have been NTFS or exFAT.
[14:39] <ryzokuken> How can I swap Unity with GNOME?
[14:40] <alwyn> ryzokuken: if you install Gnome you should be able to select it on the login screen
[14:40] <k1l_> DArqueBishop: yes, that is the standard for compatibility reasons with other OSs which is the purpose on external disks
[14:40] <DArqueBishop> k1l_: agreed.
[14:40] <tarball> k1l_ no, it says the whole space needed is 3.3gb (and that additional space needed is 300 mb)
[14:40] <k1l_> ryzokuken: install the gnome shell and choose the gnome shell on login screen then
[14:41] <ryzokuken> No, I mean swap the entire application set... as if I installed Ubuntu-GNOME in the first place
[14:41] <tarball> autoremove doesnt remove..is there a program that is auto-installed that is that big?
[14:41] <tarball> so that I can deinstall it?
[14:41] <sruli> ryzokuken: install ubuntu-gnome... else you are looking for problems
[14:41] <k1l_> tarball: it might want to keep a reserve so 5GB is not enough
[14:42] <tarball> k1l_ oh, ok
[14:42] <k1l_> tarball: look at old kernels and kernel headers. that is a lot of space usually.
[14:42] <ryzokuken> I had been thinking of installing Ubuntu-GNOME but maybe there's a way to save my data + installed applications etc
[14:43] <k1l_> ryzokuken: install ubuntu-gnome-desktop. remove ubuntu-desktop afterwards
[14:43] <RonWhoCares> k1l_: I did the dmesg .  What I was trying to say is that I can't format / partition the hard drive right now under the circumstances
[14:44] <ryzokuken> k1l_: would that not affect the working of the underlying distro?
[14:44] <k1l_> ryzokuken: no
[14:44] <ryzokuken> Sounds like the thing to do.
[14:44] <k1l_> ryzokuken: unity and gnome-shell are both shells for the gnome base anyway. so the switch is not that big anyway
[14:46] <tarball> when I want to see smart test details, I get this: paste.ubuntu.com/23967113..and with the option added, I get this: paste.ubuntu.com/23967073
[14:47] <k1l_> RonWhoCares: i still cant believe that is a reiserfs external disk and you dont know about that. so either there is something heavily going wrong or you are not telling the correct story here.  i asked for the dmesg output to make sure the situation is correct and you are not wiping all your data by accidently getting wrong commans
[14:47] <k1l_> *commands
[14:48] <RonWhoCares> k1l_: I've found a work around.  I can create the file in terminal
[14:48] <RonWhoCares> When I get this done I am formatting the hard drive
[14:49] <ryzokuken> k1l_: Installing ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[14:51] <discovered> For screen casting i am using kazam , but i can't edit the video on windows Vega Pro 14.
[14:53] <k1l_> tarball: why -d ?
[14:56] <tarball> k1l_ it was shown in the command: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[14:56] <tarball> in Results
[14:56] <k1l_> usually you dont need to specify -d
[14:57] <meandrain> so I modified the network config file from /etc/NetworkManager, now the OS is stuck when loading GUI, I see a blue screen
[14:59] <cilu> hy all!
[15:00] <jpmh> I have a server at home on which I run: ssh -R 44444:localhost:22 -p 22222 myOfficeServer - this then mean that from my office server I can connect to that machine using localhost:44444 - all works VERY well - the one issue I would like help with, is how to cause that command to happen on my home server automatically when it boots
[15:00] <cilu> how can I get help to solve ranssomware??
[15:00] <cilu> please help. countdown running
[15:00] <jpmh> cilu: do you really have ransomeware on ubuntu
[15:00] <ducasse> cilu: pay
[15:00] <Psychonaut> meandrain, Boot into single user mode and revert the changes
[15:01] <cilu> not on ubuntu.
[15:01] <ducasse> cilu: ok, then why ask here?
[15:01] <cilu> but is there any channel for more specific help?
[15:01] <jpmh> cilu: if not ubuntu then you should not be asking here
[15:01] <genii> cilu: Try ##windows
[15:01] <cilu> 40 btc os too much
[15:01] <cilu> yhants right. thank you guys
[15:02] <jpmh> cilu: I would say be GLAD your Windoze is gone and use this as the message that it is time to move to a realoperating system
[15:02] <UnityKris> So I think I've got a Mesa issue. I keep the mesa driver installed and up to day, but primarily use amd gpu pro drivers. Occasionally I test the mesa drivers by simply uninstalling amd gpu pro. In my tests today, I've lost audio through hdmi, but still have it through headphone jack. I tried "pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload" with no change. Any advice?
[15:02] <cilu> im helping a friend. thanks for your time
[15:02] <UnityKris> date*
[15:02] <Psychonaut> cilu, ##security
[15:02] <cilu> ubuntu user 10+ years
[15:02] <CrazySane> jpmh: Try making an upstart script. https://askubuntu.com/questions/22099/want-to-make-an-upstart-script-need-help-and-advice
[15:04] <meandrain> Psychonaut: I've only changed IP but I don't remember the previous one
[15:04] <jpmh> CrazySane: problem with that seems to me that the ssh -R ... does not seem to want to run when in such a script - I even tried the poor man's way of @boot in the crontab - I suspect that the issue is that it does notlike the fact that there is no tty
[15:04] <meandrain> would that prevent the os too load the gui ?
[15:06] <CrazySane> jpmh, "does not want to run" how so?
[15:07] <UnityKris> pls halp snd no werk wth mesa drivers!!!11!!!
[15:08] <jpmh> CrazySane: not actually sure what I am finding - what I know is that when I tried the quick and dirty @reboot - which is supposed to offer the same features as the upstart that it does not happen
[15:08] <ducasse> !patience | UnityKris and stop shouting
[15:09] <truncO_> sasl
[15:09] <CrazySane> jpmh, have you made an upstart script? Can you paste it and send us a link?
[15:10] <jpmh> CrazySane: No - as I said,I tried the @reboot metod first
[15:10] <jpmh> CrazySane: part of the reason is that I would like to be able to TEST that it works first
[15:12] <Giuseppe977> hi all, I'm trying to install repetier and during the installation returns that libmono-winforms2.0-cil dependes from libmono-system-runtime2.0-cil, so it doesn't continue the installation, the problem is that I have the package: libmono-system-runtime4.0-cil. Should be enought that, shouldn't it?
[15:13] <CrazySane> Giuseppe977, have you tried sudo apt-get install -f  ?
[15:13] <Anticom> Hi all. On ubuntu 12 what is the proper way to add add-apt-repository? I've found both software-properties-common and python-software-properties
[15:13] <geirha> jpmh: restarting cron service will trigger all @reboot jobs
[15:13] <tarball> k1l_ sorry, I had to log out
[15:14] <geirha> your ssh probably fails because there's no tty when cron runs it
[15:14] <geirha> jpmh: try adding -N
[15:14] <Giuseppe977> CrazySane yep
[15:14] <jpmh> geirha: yes - that's whay I want to use the @reboot and not the pain of upstart
[15:15] <jpmh> geirha: to what do you want me to add the -N
[15:15] <geirha> ssh
[15:15] <tgm4883> Anticom: it's in python-software-properties
[15:16] <geirha> maybe -f as well
[15:17] <ducasse> geirha: jpmh: -T maybe?
[15:17] <jpmh> geirha looks like the -N was all I needed - thank you so much
[15:18] <CrazySane> jpmh, glad you got it working!
[15:18] <jpmh> also - thanks to CrazySane and ducasse for the offers of help - you guys are great
[15:21] <Giuseppe977> nobody can help me?
[15:30] <ducasse> Giuseppe977: repetier is from a ppa?
[15:32] <brunch875> guys I want to buy my first proper camera
[15:32] <brunch875> should I worry about ubuntu support?
[15:33] <brunch875> Most models I see being sold state they're "windows compatible"
[15:33] <brunch875> is this the same as mice claiming to be compatible with windows?
[15:35] <CrazySane> They are all basically DCIM / removeable disk anyway.. so it's 99.9999% chance you'll be compatable.
[15:35] <brunch875> Thanks, CrazySane; that's what I wanted to hear
[15:35] <CrazySane> np
[15:36] <CrazySane> ^forgot to /nickserv XD
[15:37] <rowe> I upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04, and now when I 'sudo apt update' I get the following back: "Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[15:37] <rowe> N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386'"
[15:37] <rowe> What should I do?
[15:41] <ducasse> rowe: just delete /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old and the .list file for google chrome, they don't provide 32-bit builds anymore. also *stop using it* as it is no longer secure.
[15:41] <richardl> hello
[15:42] <richardl> Q: my keyboard is acting weirdly
[15:42] <rowe> would 'rm /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' work? I'm new to Linux, so the Terminal is still a little scary.
[15:42] <nicomachus> !details | richardl
[15:42] <rowe> And I guess I don't need 50unattended-upgrades? Not an important system file or anything?
[15:42] <ducasse> rowe: yep, but put 'sudo' in front
[15:43] <richardl> if I type i, i' gets typed
[15:43] <richardl> i -> i'
[15:43] <ducasse> rowe: it's an old backup file, not necessary at all. known bug.
[15:43] <rowe> Cool, thank you.
[15:44] <richardl> u -> uh
[15:44] <nicomachus> richardl: where?
[15:44] <rowe> So "sudo rm /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old" will do the trick.
[15:44] <nicomachus> richardl: just in terminal, or system wide?
[15:44] <ducasse> rowe: also delete the chrome .list fil in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[15:44] <richardl> o -> o#
[15:44] <richardl> i'n anyg keygbo#ard
[15:44] <rowe> ducasse: thank you
[15:44] <CrazySane> So, wrong language map on your keyboard, richardl
[15:45] <ducasse> rowe: np
[15:45] <richardl>  in any keyboard ->  i'n anyg keygbo#ard
[15:45] <nicomachus> richardl: can you please check System Settings -> Keyboard -> Text Entry and see what language it is?
[15:45] <richardl> very frustrating -> veryg fruhstrati'ngy
[15:45] <nicomachus> richardl: ok we get it.
[15:45] <nicomachus> stop.
[15:46] <CrazySane> I'm confused, how are you typing the first part of your messages there (the correct form)?
[15:46]  * nicomachus assumes copy+paste
[15:46] <nicomachus> or deleting extraneous stuff
[15:46] <CrazySane> good pojnt
[15:46] <richardl> its English (US)
[15:47] <nicomachus> richardl: are there any other languages listed at all?
[15:47] <richardl> I tried English (UK) but it doesnt work either
[15:47] <hobir> Anyone here who can helo me mount a software raid in ubuntu live cd?
[15:47] <CrazySane> the 'O' and the '#' key aren't near each other in the slightest, so I assue it's not sticky keys.
[15:47] <rowe> Ducasse, I can't seem to find that Chrome file.
[15:47] <richardl> i have Korean (Hangul) but Korean works fine
[15:47] <nicomachus> richardl: delete anything you don't need.
[15:48] <ducasse> rowe: pastebin output of 'ls /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/'
[15:48] <nicomachus> richardl: Super+Spacebar switches between them, so you could have hit that by accident and messed up the layout.
[15:48] <richardl> i see
[15:48] <p3rL> hello i had install ubuntu 12 on my pc but its not showing wifi
[15:49] <p3rL> am using wireless usb tl-wn727n i didnt get any wifi
[15:49] <p3rL> on ubuntu 12
[15:50] <rowe> @ducasse http://pastebin.com/gxscEFtj
[15:51] <ducasse> rowe: sorry, made a typo :) 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d' is the right path.
[15:51] <richardl> i removed everythińg else but stiĺl i doesnt work
[15:51] <CrazySane> p3rL, try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/577941/installing-the-driver-for-tp-link-tl-wn727n-on-ubuntu-14-04
[15:51] <p3rL> its ubuntu14 link am using 12
[15:51] <ducasse> rowe: it should just be named google-chrome.list or something similar
[15:52] <CrazySane> Can anyone chime in on the validity of 14 -> 12 wireless drivers?
[15:52] <rowe> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/T1djaEhs
[15:53] <p3rL> why its not getting auto wifi is it ubuntu fault ?
[15:53] <mogreen> Does anyone know how to get qmake to compile with qt5.5 rather than qt5.2?  Like, what's *the* way I'm supposed to do that?
[15:53] <ducasse> rowe: 'sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list*'
[15:54] <nicomachus> richardl: what kind of keyboard is this? USB, bluetooth, integrated/laptop?
[15:54] <richardl> its standard usb
[15:54] <nicomachus> richardl: do you have another you can switch out and check with real quick?
[15:54] <CrazySane> p3rL, I assume you're connected with a cable right now?
[15:54] <p3rL> no am on my laptop right now i installed ubuntu on my pc
[15:55] <richardl> i don't have another keyboard now
[15:55] <CrazySane> So does that computer have another method of getting to the internet?
[15:55] <rowe> ducasse: Thank you! I appreciate the newb help.
[15:55] <richardl> but can try it later today
[15:55] <p3rL> i have only wireless usb on my pc
[15:55] <k1l_> p3rL: why didnt you isntall the ubuntu 16.04?
[15:55] <richardl> can it be due to a virus?
[15:55] <rowe> The whole upgrade process had my heart in my throat. It took me a while to even get 15.10 installed.
[15:55] <p3rL> k1l_:   i was try but something wrong with it
[15:55] <ducasse> rowe: np. remember, using a browser that doesn't get updates is dangerous, so switch to another browser asap.
[15:56] <richardl> this never happened to me before
[15:56] <rowe> I'm using Chromium now.
[15:56] <CrazySane> p3rL, that's likely the issue - at least the first one. In order for ubuntu to fetch the correct software, you'll have to get it on the internet one time first.
[15:56] <p3rL> wait be right back guys give me 10 mins dinner ... :)
[15:56] <k1l_> p3rL: you are aware that wubi is not supported anymore?
[15:56] <CrazySane> k1l_, very valid question
[15:57] <k1l_> last time he tried installing ubuntu 160.4 with wubi. but wubi is not supported anymore. so i guess he switched back to 12.04 because of that
[15:57] <richardl> nicomachus: Thank you very much for your help
[15:57] <CrazySane> What is Wubi?
[15:58] <squig> does the installer leave a log some where?
[15:58] <k1l_> CrazySane: it was a install method to inatsll inside windows to test ubuntu. but this was very buggy and caused a lot of problems.
[15:58] <Malakh> hello
[15:58] <CrazySane> k1l_, ah. Sounds complicated. XD
[16:01] <Zewwy> How do I add a static route in Ubuntu 16.04?
[16:01] <Zewwy> Searching states to add them in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:01] <prince537> Hi everybody
[16:01] <Zewwy> However I have set my static IP via teh GUI, and I don't see my static IP information in this existing file
[16:02] <Zewwy> Is there a better way? or Do I have to override my staic IP information I did in teh GUI with teh settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:02] <Zewwy> ?
[16:05] <tgm4883> Zewwy: wouldn't you just add the routes to your config in the GUI?
[16:05] <p3rL> k1l_:  when i was burn ubuntu 16 on my usb with rufus and reboot pc something is wrong with 16 boot file not found
[16:06] <Zewwy> oh Yeah I guess
[16:06] <p3rL> so i had installed ubunu12 its work fine but i am not able to get any wifi
[16:06] <Zewwy> should installed a non gui version
[16:06] <Zewwy> where do I do that?
[16:07] <Zewwy> nm
[16:07] <Zewwy> found it
[16:07] <malakh_> hi
[16:07] <malakh_> someone could help me? I have some issues with wifi I have ubuntu on a macbook pro mid 2010.
[16:08] <p3rL> if you can provide me  good iso where wireless usb driver installed and works fine on boot
[16:08] <nicomachus> p3rL: depends on the wifi chipset. different chipsets have different drivers.
[16:08] <p3rL> am using tl-wn727n
[16:08] <nicomachus> p3rL: the only chipsets I have ever had trouble with are a particular subset of realtek
[16:09] <malakh_> nicomachus, mine is bcm4322
[16:09] <p3rL> so how can i fix my problem am using tl-wn727n
[16:09] <p3rL> this is my wireless usb model
[16:09] <malakh_> oh sorry I thought you were writing to me
[16:09] <nicomachus> malakh_: apt install bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:10] <number28_> Was wondering if anyone coudld help me setup my VPN? Just purchased first VPN subscription and having hard time loading pages when loding in.
[16:10] <k1l_> p3rL: ubuntu 12.04 will be shut down in some weeks. so it would make a lot more sense to got with 16.04 now
[16:10] <Zewwy> what the...
[16:10] <nicomachus> p3rL: see here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/577941/installing-the-driver-for-tp-link-tl-wn727n-on-ubuntu-14-04#578017
[16:10] <Zewwy> so i added the route in the gui, I had an active SSH session, so after saving, i typed route -n
[16:10] <nicomachus> number28_: what's the VPN?
[16:10] <malakh_> nicomachus, I did but nothing happens :\ the system recognize the device but I cannot scan for wifi or even configure it manually :\
[16:10] <p3rL> k1l_:  i want to install ubuntu 16 but when i burn it to on my usb its not working on boot time
[16:11] <Zewwy> it didn't show in my list so I decided to turn off the network, and re-enable it
[16:11] <p3rL> boot file not found something error like that
[16:11] <number28_> nicomachus: NordVPN
[16:11] <Zewwy> but it wouldn't let me re-enable until I removed the static route
[16:11] <k1l_> Zewwy: if you define the network in the interfaces file the network manager will not use that device
[16:11] <Zewwy> whats up with that?
[16:11] <Zewwy> k1l_: I didn't I'm setting it all via teh GUI
[16:11] <nicomachus> number28_: is that OpenVPN or PTPP?
[16:11] <number28_> nicomachus: OpenVPN
[16:12] <k1l_> p3rL: is that a 32bit machine?
[16:12] <p3rL> ys
[16:12] <p3rL> yes*
[16:12] <nicomachus> number28_: the company will almost always have installation instructions. check with them first, then we try to just set up through network manager if they don't.
[16:12] <nicomachus> 32bit? oh boy
[16:13] <Zewwy> seruiously whats going on, why won't it let me turn on teh nic with a static route set?!?!
[16:13] <number28_> nicomachus: Yeah just scanned it all, was fairly simple. Just launch from openVPN folder, login and you're connected. However when i open a website it just sits there and loads. Do i need to do any kind of routing?
[16:13] <nicomachus> Zewwy: chill out. you've been instructed on how to do it and you keep doing it differently. follow directions.
[16:13] <nicomachus> number28_: that sounds like an issue with the provider... not really something we can solve.
[16:13] <jamie_1> annoyed with the fact that i cant even install skype on 16.10... it depends on packages for 12.04... which have been replace. geeze the need to make an updated client for linux
[16:13] <Zewwy> haha thanks, but what directions, I did follow them, I set a static route via teh GUI?
[16:13] <number28_> nicomachus: Okay, there is a shitload of servers to choose from however i wasn;t sure if i was doing something wrong or not
[16:14] <nicomachus> jamie_1: use the web client, or something like Franz
[16:14] <Zewwy> nicomachus: Unless there was something else I was instructed, please tell I'm sorry if I missed it.
[16:14] <nicomachus> number28_: 1. language! 2. select the one closest to you.
[16:14] <jamie_1> nicomachus: i do, just wanted to install the native client but ehh, i guess i can keep using web client
[16:14] <number28_> nicomachus: Apologize!
[16:14] <p3rL> k1l_:  so can u give me 32 bit ubuntu 16 iso where boot works fine
[16:14] <tinfoil_hat> hey there, i installed another disto and like to know what encryption the standart ubuntu gnome backup program uses for an encryption
[16:15] <tgm4883> jamie_1: have you tried the alpha client?
[16:15] <k1l_> p3rL: if its 32bit machine its old and slow and you want to use Lubuntu
[16:15] <jamie_1> tgm4883: not sure where i would find that
[16:15] <number28_> nicomachus: I did. Those all seem like the 'did you try restarting your computer' solutions, however haha... i just wasn't sure if i needed to reroute somehow.
[16:15] <nicomachus> jamie_1: check out Franz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/franz-messaging-app-linux-slack-whatsapp-telegram
[16:15] <malakh_> wow :| so much people :|
[16:16] <tgm4883> jamie_1: https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
[16:16] <tgm4883> download the deb from there
[16:16] <p3rL> k1l_:  what about this ?? http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[16:17] <jamie_1> thanks tgm4883and nicomachus
[16:17] <k1l_> p3rL: Lubuntu is better for old 32bit only machines: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[16:17] <CrazySane> I do wish they would just not put out a 32bit version anymore.
[16:17] <malakh_> well anyone for me? :D I installed the bcmwl-kernel-source, rebooted but still my wifi doesn't work :\
[16:18] <p3rL> k1l_:  so lubuntu same like ? ubuntu or differ i want to install some exe also is lubuntu wil suport ?
[16:18] <p3rL> playonlinux
[16:18] <k1l_> p3rL: its the same basis but its a more lightweight desktop for old machines.
[16:19] <CrazySane> p3rL, it'll run playonlinux just the same.
[16:19] <p3rL> oh ok so lubuntu also require wireless driver manually ?
[16:19] <nicomachus> malakh_: sorry, you said it will discover networks but you can't connect?
[16:19] <CrazySane> p3rL, probably - yes. You'll still need to fetch the driver either way.
[16:20] <malakh_> nicomachus, np, it can't scan drivers and if I try to set a network through gui I can't because there's no device in it
[16:20] <financeMan> Hello, I just installed a clean instance of ubuntu 16.04 on an intel server board with what I assume has integrated intel graphics for it's VGA output. I can't get resolution to show greater than 800x600, any suggestions?
[16:21] <p3rL> ok thanks CrazySane  k1l_  for your guide tommorow i 'll catch you back if lubuntu not work or boot time error
[16:21] <p3rL> time to download lubuntu
[16:22] <malakh_> nicomachus, sorry I meant it can't scan networks*
[16:22] <CrazySane> financeMan, you probably need to enable propritary drivers?
[16:23] <CrazySane> financeMan, what does "sudo lshw -c display" give you
[16:24] <financeMan> CrazySane http://pastebin.com/wZw20ctt
[16:26] <k1l_> financeMan: i dont think that old matrox cards will have better support than 800x600
[16:26] <thinky> hello
[16:26] <thinky> may i ask why there are 3 different update in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[16:26] <CrazySane> k13nox, I was thinking the same thing.
[16:26] <nacc> thinky: can you rephrase your question?
[16:26] <CrazySane> !detail | thinky
[16:27] <k1l_> financeMan: this is the bug report maybe they have a solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1316035
[16:27] <CrazySane> Hmm. still learning to use that thing
[16:27] <thinky> 1. Software Updater 2. Ubuntu Software store 3. terminal command based
[16:27] <thinky> i mean i need to check all 3 ways to be sure if ubuntu is up to date
[16:27] <CrazySane> Ah
[16:27] <k1l_> thinky: no
[16:27] <CrazySane> Nah. YOu only need to check on, thinky
[16:27] <thinky> why not 1 is syncing for all?
[16:27] <CrazySane> one*
[16:28] <k1l_> thinky: software updater is just a GUI frontend for the same things the apt is a cli frontend
[16:28] <malakh_> i try to reboot
[16:28] <CrazySane> ^ what they said.
[16:29] <k1l_> thinky: the gui updater is just set to collect the updates and ask the user once a week (or so) if there are no critical security updates pending
[16:29] <BluesKaj> abd dpkg is the base for all package managers in debian based distros
[16:29] <thinky> i rely on software updater more
[16:29] <thinky> because it checks all apps and firmwares i think
[16:29] <BluesKaj> abd=and
[16:29] <thinky> what about sudo apt update
[16:29] <CrazySane> apt and the gui are the same thing. dpkg manages it all in the back end. (note that dpkg also have cli commands, but those are direct).
[16:29] <thinky> && sudo apt full-upgrade ?
[16:30] <CrazySane> any apt-get / apt-cache / etc.. commands are the apt frontend.
[16:30] <k1l_> thinky: as i said apt on terminal and updater in gui is the same.
[16:30] <thinky> so terminal and updater same ?
[16:30] <CrazySane> Yes
[16:30] <k1l_> thinky: yes
[16:30] <thinky> what about software store ?
[16:30] <nicomachus> thinky: that's apt. the gui is just a gui for apt. `apt update` updates the list of packages and tells you if there are updates available. `apt upgrade` updates those packages. `apt full-upgrade` updates those packages + kernel
[16:31] <thinky> that orange shopping bag ?
[16:31] <k1l_> thinky: software store is the same but it includes other was of installing programs like snaps or payed apps.
[16:31] <CrazySane> that's part of the gui frontend
[16:31] <nicomachus> thinky: `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` is all you need to update the whole system.
[16:31] <thinky> that s what i do nicomachus
[16:32] <nicomachus> until you get into tricky stuff like pip or something... but that's for another day. ;)
[16:32] <CrazySane> XD
[16:32] <thinky> so if i run that command in terminal , updater and store wont bring me new updates right?
[16:32] <k1l_> thinky: correct.
[16:32] <thinky> perfect then
[16:32] <CrazySane> You'll likely still get notifications when updates are available, but you can then perform those updates from the cli with apt.
[16:32] <thinky> i love ubuntu really
[16:32] <thinky> stabil and fast
[16:32] <nicomachus> !yay
[16:32] <thinky> but but but still doesnt support some..
[16:32] <CrazySane> !help
[16:33] <thinky> itunes for example
[16:33] <nicomachus> thinky: well, itunes is garbage.
[16:33] <thinky> but for my iphone i need it :p
[16:33] <CrazySane> When can I learn more about the bot commands available here?
[16:33] <CrazySane> where*
[16:33] <nicomachus> CrazySane: /msg ubottu !commands
[16:34] <CrazySane> I did that - and it replied to me how the command line works.
 The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:34] <ducasse> !brain > CrazySane
[16:34] <thinky> i think software store is useless
[16:35] <thinky> i prefer command line
[16:35] <thinky> to install and uninstall
[16:35] <CrazySane> thanks ducasse
[16:35] <malakh_> nothing...
[16:35] <malakh_> damn
[16:36] <tarball> hello again :) I was writing here today about a problematic external drive, on which ubuntu shut down randomly, or the desktop disappeared..I am not sure about its long smartest results, it gave no error but also when I wanted to view details, it returned results that were mostly about device not being recognized, at the end recommending to add '-T permissions'..but it was the same with it, too..so I erased the disk and now trying to create new
[16:36] <tarball> partitions, but another strange thing happens now; I create the partition via command line with fdisk, and normally the result should show an 'unknown' partition because I haven't applied 'mkfs' yet. but it doesn't, and instead it shows an encrypted partition, which has the same password as the former partition that I said I'd erased (even the drive formatted)..how is that possible? even when I assign a new size to partition, the same thing happens.
[16:36] <tarball> oh gosh, sorry for the long writing!!
[16:36] <tarball> long smart test results*
[16:37] <thinky> tarball: really long writing..
[16:37] <thinky> lazy to read
[16:37] <malakh_> nothing I can't use my wifi device with ubuntu
[16:37] <tarball> thinky, usually it is desired to provide the full case here
[16:37] <thinky> what do u think about this : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/skype-for-linux-end-of-life-march
[16:38] <thinky> end of skype for linux :S
[16:38] <CrazySane> tarball, fdisk?
[16:38] <tarball> CrazySane, yes, I did fdisk to create partitions
[16:38] <CrazySane> Haha. My bad. Ignore me
[16:39] <nacc> thinky: this is not a chitchat channel, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:39] <thinky> ook
[16:39] <tarball> and if you're here for chitchat, at least don't interfere with the real questions!
[16:40] <financeMan> k1l_ the bug report, not sure what it suggests to do other than maybe installing, xubuntu-desktop? gnome must come installed by default
[16:40] <k1l_> financeMan: i didnt read the full comments to see if there is a solution.
[16:41] <malakh_> guys I have issues with wifi and ubuntu...even if I installed bcmwl-kernel-source, I can't connect to my wifi network neither I can scan wifi networks
[16:41] <tarball> hello, to sum it up; how can fdisk not create a partition from the beginning, but apply the very same encryption to it as the one before formatting had?
[16:41] <tarball> it before formatting had*
[16:41] <CrazySane> !wifi | malakh_
[16:42] <thinky> i am still struggling to uninstall an installed app or package
[16:42] <CrazySane> thinky, how so?
[16:43] <thinky> i usually use Synaptic but i am not sure it it cleans unwanted program all
[16:43] <k1l_> thinky: put all the output on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[16:43] <ioria> financeMan, idk think so, the issue is with xorg shipped by 14 and 16; then or install 12 (sig !) or try a custom xorg.conf
[16:43] <thinky> k1l_: i just installed mpv video player but i wanna uninstall it
[16:43] <thinky> i cant see installed apps or package list like windows and i cant uninstall easily
[16:44] <ash_workz> how does psql know which cluster to use?
[16:44] <k1l_> thinky: sudo apt remove mpv
[16:44] <thinky> k1l_: what about dpgk ?
[16:44] <CrazySane> thinky, whats the output of "sudo apt remove mpv && sudo apt autoremove"
[16:44] <nicomachus> thinky: you will almost never need to use dpkg
[16:44] <k1l_> thinky: use apt
[16:44] <tarball> I have provided the story because I've already been having strange things with the disk..so is it expectable that fdisk does that?
[16:45] <nicomachus> CrazySane: && autoremove is a bit dangerous... best to look at those packages carefully before removing.
[16:45] <CrazySane> nicomachus, good point. I'll be more careful about recommending that next time.
[16:45] <CrazySane> He just mentioned that he was afraid not everything was being removed.
[16:45] <thinky> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23967635/
[16:46] <ash_workz> oh I get it.
[16:46] <BluesKaj> I've never had autoremove cause any problems
[16:46] <thinky> yes i want to be sure that everything cleared related with an app or package
[16:46] <thinky> for example other day i uninstalled opera browser from synaptics and installed it again
[16:46] <thinky> but cookies and last visited webs was there
[16:47] <thinky> no deleted cookies and history it seems
[16:47] <CrazySane> that you'll have to clean out yourself.
[16:47] <thinky> what is dpkg ?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> due to the config file not being removed , thinky
[16:47] <k1l_> thinky: yes, it removes the pacakge specified and tells you that there are now packages, that were installed as dependency and are now not needed anymore. apt autoremove will remove the unused pacakges
[16:47] <thinky> what does dpgk do ?
[16:48] <CrazySane> thinky, dpkg is the backend that does your package management. You really only use it directly when something is really borked or you want to install a package that isn't from a repo
[16:48] <BluesKaj> !dpkg | thinky
[16:48] <thinky> and how can i view installed things in my system ?
[16:48] <k1l_> thinky: you dont need dpkg. look at the output you showed us. it names the packges that are not needed anymore but still installed. apt autoremove will remove them
[16:49] <ecp02> I am running into internal errors with eclipse while trying to use profilers on my code. Where is the best place to get help with this topic?
[16:49] <CrazySane> Jebus. ubottu knows everything.
[16:49] <k1l_> thinky: you can list the installed packages with "dpkg -l", all installed packages do have "ii" in front
[16:49] <thinky> great
[16:49] <thinky> so what i need is sudo apt remove mpv && sudo apt autoremove right ?
[16:49] <ducasse> CrazySane: also, apt list --installed
[16:49] <k1l_> thinky: yes
[16:49] <ducasse> thinky: ^^
[16:49] <ducasse> sorry, CrazySane
[16:50] <CrazySane> ;)
[16:50] <bipul> Hi
[16:50] <thinky> almost all has ii infront of the list
[16:50] <thinky> but what is this : rc  mpv            0.14.0-1buil amd64        video player based on MPlayer/mpl
[16:50] <thinky> rc ?
[16:50] <thinky> i just removed it
[16:50] <thinky> why still shows ?
[16:51] <k1l_> thinky: dont panic :)
[16:51] <nicomachus> 42!
[16:51] <nicomachus> oh
[16:51] <ducasse> !enter | thinky
[16:51] <thinky> ok
[16:51] <tarball> fdisk creates just the same fs even after I format the disk. how is that possible?
[16:51] <k1l_> thinky: at the top it lists you what rc stands for
[16:52] <thinky> hmm
[16:52] <k1l_> thinky: it means: marked as removed but configuration files are there
[16:52] <pavlos> tarball, does fdisk show you any partitions on disk?
[16:52] <k1l_> thinky: i dont get what you are concerned about right now.
[16:53] <tarball> pavlos, yes, it shows the partition
[16:53] <thinky> i m just confused,
[16:53] <thinky> trying to find out how it works
[16:53] <k1l_> thinky: yes, you demanded the very detailed information that is not used by regular users.
[16:54] <wendico> hello all. Why there is a BUY button on free apps of the ubuntu repository? Thank you.
[16:54] <pavlos> tarball, I assume you need the disk all cleaned up, you could delete the partitions, right
[16:54] <k1l_> thinky: for the regular user its enough to use apt or the gui managers like software center.
[16:54] <thinky> i see
[16:55] <ducasse> tarball: 'apt purge mpv' will delete the remains of the package, leaving only config/cache etc under your homedir (if any)
[16:55] <k1l_> thinky: are there still questions?
[16:55] <tarball> I create a partition, say 60 GB ext4, encrypted or not, then delete the partition, format the disk, and create a new partition with fdisk, and there you go, the very same fs as before, instead of a brand new partition with 'unknown' label
[16:55] <ducasse> thinky: 'apt purge mpv' will delete the remains of the package, leaving only config/cache etc under your homedir (if any)
[16:55] <thinky> what s purge?
[16:55] <k1l_> wendico: do you mean free as in open source or free as in no charge of money in the store?
[16:55] <nicomachus> remove + removes config files and some other randoms
[16:55] <thinky> yes i was about to ask that lol
[16:55] <thinky> remove and purge
[16:55] <tarball> ducasse, what is mpv?
[16:55] <k1l_> thinky: apt purge package will remove the config files too
[16:55] <nicomachus> !info mpv | tarball
[16:56] <thinky> k1l_: so should i use purge instead of remove
[16:56] <wendico> k1l_  free as in no charge of money but still i have a Buy button instead of an Install button
[16:56] <Southern_Gentlem> tarball,  how can you format a partition you deleted
[16:56] <k1l_> thinky: that depends on what you want :) if you want to keep the cofngi (that is the standard) use remove.
[16:56] <ducasse> tarball: sorry, it wasn't for you. was too quick on tab complete :)
[16:56] <tarball> ducasse, maybe the wrong recipient? my problem is not related to video player
[16:56] <wendico> example of buy button: IntelliJ IDEA 13 Community Edition
[16:56] <tarball> ok :)
[16:56] <k1l_> wendico: maybe it was with a charge once? and they reduced it
[16:57] <thinky> hmm
[16:57] <tarball> Southern_Gentlem, I didnt say I did that
[16:57] <Southern_Gentlem> yes you did <tarball> I create a partition, say 60 GB ext4, encrypted or not, then delete the partition, format the disk, and create a new partition with fdisk, and there you go, the very same fs as before, instead of a brand new partition with 'unknown' label
[16:57] <tarball> ...
[16:57] <pavlos> tarball, do you have a gui, can you use gparted for visual help?
[16:58] <Southern_Gentlem> how are you formating the disk with no partition
[16:58] <tarball> pavlos, sure. how can I get all disk cleaned up other than formatting?
[16:58] <Anticom> LOL could someone on 16.04 do me a favor and look at the man page for clang-format? For me first line under DESCRIPTION is "ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.  OVERVIEW: A tool to format C/C++/Java/JavaScript/Objective-C/Protobuf code."
[16:58] <tarball> pavlos, opening gparted
[16:58] <wendico> I see more apps and games that are supposed to be Free (cost no money) but they have a BUY button instead of an install button. How can i install those apps?
[16:59] <k1l_> Anticom: the manpages are online, too
[16:59] <k1l_> Anticom: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/clang-format-3.8.1.html
[16:59] <tarball> Southern_Gentlem, gnome disk utility has a format option. I used that
[16:59] <pavlos> tarball, you select the device, then select each apartition and delete, click apply. The disk should be empty. Then, you create a new partition, you foarmat it as you want and apply.
[16:59] <Southern_Gentlem> tarball,  now  if after you fdisk and create the partition you mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1
[16:59] <Anticom> k1l_: lol So where does this originate from?
[16:59] <Southern_Gentlem> ok never mind i dont trust guis to do anything sensible
[17:00] <tarball> Southern_Gentlem, yes, but the command line shows the same, too
[17:00] <tarball> pavlos, I did it tons of times. and it is recreating the former partition.
[17:01] <tarball> normally fdisk should begin with an 'unknown' partition. but it immediately assigns it ext4 even before I apply mkfs
[17:01] <Southern_Gentlem> rm the partitio reboot, make and format the partition
[17:01] <Southern_Gentlem> fdisk assign it as linux
[17:02] <wendico> why there is a BUY button instead of an Install button in some free of charge applications on the ubuntu repository?
[17:02] <tarball> Southern_Gentlem, is there some sort of 'caching' in fdisk, that gets removed via reboot?
[17:03] <tarball> not in fdisk, but in the disk
[17:03] <ducasse> !patience | wendico
[17:03] <Southern_Gentlem> yes or the kernel also can do that and not actaully writee to the disk
[17:04] <tarball> ok, so that was the reason for this happening?
[17:04] <financeMan> ioria what does "install 12 (sig !)" mean? Install ubuntu 12.04?
[17:04] <hanshenrik> seems like 16.04 server has a stuttering problem
[17:05] <Southern_Gentlem> tarball,  either kernel cache or drive cacheing
[17:05] <hanshenrik> `uname -a` ends with: x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:05] <k1l_> financeMan: yes, but that looses support in some weeks
[17:05] <ioria> financeMan, yes
[17:05] <hanshenrik> is that a bug?
[17:05] <k1l_> hanshenrik: that is not a bug
[17:05] <ioria> financeMan, but hopefully not
[17:05] <hanshenrik> k1l_, then what the heck is that supposed to mean
[17:05] <k1l_> hanshenrik: look at what uname shows you there
[17:05] <financeMan> I need 16.04 for my openstack deployment tests
[17:05] <tarball> Southern_Gentlem, yes, I found out about 'filesystem memory cache' maybe that one?
[17:05] <ioria> financeMan, i'd try with a xorg.conf or install another piece of hw
[17:05] <nacc> financeMan: in what context did you get that message?
[17:05] <Southern_Gentlem> maybe
[17:06] <hanshenrik> k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23967707 to be exact
[17:06] <tarball> https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiEj_u-gYbSAhXpFJoKHS8WDYcQFggyMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D589975&usg=AFQjCNG4pytCUjyPUepSgT7cXhc4OPIctg
[17:06] <financeMan> nacc I am trying to fix this issue that I am running into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1316035
[17:06] <nacc> hanshenrik: `man uname` to see what uname emits.
[17:06] <financeMan> I want 16.04 with a decent resolution lol
[17:07] <k1l_> hanshenrik: this explains exaclty what it outputs http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man1/uname.1.html
[17:07] <nacc> financeMan: so xorg emits that message?
[17:07] <ioria> nacc, nope, I emitted that message :þ
[17:08] <nacc> ioria: heh
[17:08] <financeMan> nacc not sure, he had me run another command to show it
[17:09] <k1l_> hanshenrik: when the hardware, the machine and the kernel is x86_64 then it has to list that 3 times. if you dont what it list that 3 times then dont use -a :)
[17:09] <ioria> nacc, old video card not supported http://pastebin.com/wZw20ctt
[17:09] <nacc> ioria: ah i see :/
[17:11] <financeMan> nacc I am not a huge ubuntu guy so I wasn't sure how to fix it
[17:12] <nacc> financeMan: it seems like an old, potentially unsupported, graphics card?
[17:12] <financeMan> that everyone is complaining about lol
[17:12] <pavlos> tarball, can you pastebin? try sudo fdisk -l <device> \ pastebinit
[17:12] <financeMan> in that post it seemed like
[17:12] <pavlos> tarball, can you pastebin? try sudo fdisk -l <device> | pastebinit
[17:12] <k1l_> financeMan: it looks like its not supported anymore on newer xorg versions. that is the issue
[17:13] <ioria> financeMan,  what is a Dell PowerEdge ?
[17:14] <k1l_> ioria: a workstation/small server
[17:14] <ioria> k1l_, ho, ok
[17:14] <thinky> thank you for your helps :)
[17:15] <tarball> rebooted still the same
[17:15] <tarball> pavlos, sure
[17:17] <hanshenrik> uname says the kernel is "4.4.0-62" - does that mean that its a heavily patched 4.4.0 kernel?
[17:17] <Krishna> My touchpad stops working after a while with Ubuntu 16.04
[17:17] <Krishna> Please help
[17:18] <Krishna> I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0007 Version=01a1 N: Name="SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" P: Phys=isa0060/serio1/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input8 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse0 event7 B: PROP=5 B: EV=b B: KEY=e520 10000 0 0 0 0 B: ABS=660800011000003
[17:19] <tarball> pavlos, it is here: paste.ubuntu.com/23967872
[17:19] <mike5> impaktor?
[17:19] <mike5> are you there?
[17:20] <pavlos> tarball, using fdisk again, you can delete partition 1 and write changes to disk, then fdisk again should not list any partitions
[17:22] <tarball> pavlos, I havent tried fdisk in deletion yet, hope it works this way
[17:22] <pavlos> tarball, m for help, d to delete partition, w to write changes
[17:23] <tarball> pavlos, the same after fdisk delete.
[17:24] <pavlos> tarball, so you d 1 w and still fdisk /dev/sdc shows a partition
[17:24] <tarball> yes
[17:25] <tarball> and even fdisk g (create new partition table) and n w ends up with same partition
[17:26] <pavlos> tarball, I noticed disklabel is gpt instead of dos
[17:27] <tarball> pavlos, yes, but it is the same with dos
[17:27] <pavlos> tarball, strange ...
[17:28] <raub> If I install ubuntu server and then install the dekstop meta package (apt-get install ubuntu-desktop), does it turn (USB) automount on?
[17:29] <pavlos> Southern_Gentlem, any ideas to help tarball ?
[17:30] <hanshenrik> raub, you're not seriously gonna install a full desktop cus you want automount, r u?
[17:31] <raub> hanshenrik: I actually would rather not have automount. I am just curious if it turns it on
[17:31] <hanshenrik> ohk
[17:31] <hanshenrik> (idk, but my guess is yes)
[17:31] <raub> In fact, my other question is how to turn that off
[17:32] <erle-> my ubuntu EFI entry is missing (efibootmgr does not show it) after my Mac was repaired by the Apple Store
[17:32] <erle-> any ideas on how to restore?
[17:32] <hanshenrik> raub, idk, but i think this site explains how to turn it on/off https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[17:32] <erle-> (I dont have rEFInd or anything like that, just plain grubx64.efi)
[17:32] <hanshenrik> erle-, grub-install ?
[17:32] <hanshenrik> idk
[17:33] <raub> hanshenrik: you type faster than me. I was going to put that url and say I still did not understand how to turn that off after reading it
[17:34] <Southern_Gentlem> pavlos, nope
[17:34] <Southern_Gentlem> other than try it from a live
[17:34] <raub> erle-: when I di dinstall ubuntu in a MBP a while ago, Ijust wiped the HD and the install did the rest. Do you mean tha tyou do not want to lose the data?
[17:35] <erle-> raub, I am not reinstalling anything
[17:35] <erle-> it is installed for a long time
[17:36] <raub> erle-: Just want to make sure that "sending to apple store for repair" != they wiped the drive
[17:36] <pavlos> tarball, I plugged in another drive (sdb), did the same steps, deleted part, recreated part. Dont know what's going on with your setup
[17:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[17:39] <tarball> pavlos, maybe it is my disk. I wrote about it at the beginning that I had problems earlier today. ubuntu 15.10. was installed on it before, and it had problems like shutting down randomly or or desktop disappearing likewise. then I found in the logs that the problem was thermal limit reached so the pc shut itself down. since I never get the problem with the hdd of the computer, I suspected the disk
[17:40] <pavlos> tarball, if you have gui, the disks utility could run smartctl on it and you can see if temp is an issue
[17:40] <tarball> but the long smart test was completed without errors. however, when I wanted to see smarttest details, I got an output with 'not found's 'not enabled's etc, at the end saying 'maybe add --T permissions'..which I did, but still the same output
[17:40] <k1l_> raub: gvfs is handling automount on ubuntu
[17:41] <dorkmafia> anyone want to buy an hp z820
[17:41] <tarball> so I am trying to figure if I can safely use the disk, and now it is this problem with partitions
[17:42] <pavlos> tarball, sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc will list some data, see ID 190
[17:42] <ilyaigpetrov> what was the last DE that joined ubuntu officially?
[17:42] <ilyaigpetrov> it was in the news
[17:42] <ilyaigpetrov> quite old
[17:43] <ilyaigpetrov> budgie!
[17:43] <ilyaigpetrov> thanks
[17:43] <k1l_> budgie is not old, its quite new, iirc
[17:44] <ilyaigpetrov> k1l_: the news is old
[17:44] <pavlos> tarball, look for, [17:44] <k1l_> ilyaigpetrov: yes
[17:44] <tarball> pavlos, just rebooting, and then I will proceed
[17:45] <pavlos> tarball, ok, send a pastebin of sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc to take a look
[17:46] <ilyaigpetrov> why Gnome DE family is usually preferred over KDE while KDE doesn't look so bad?
[17:47] <k1l> ilyaigpetrov: stableness, configuration, distributing issues,...  not only taste is a factor for a distribution to decide which desktop to use.
[17:48] <raub> So, USB automount is being done by Nautilus itself?
[17:49] <k1l> raub: by gvfs
[17:49] <tgm4883> I'm not sure I'd say "Gnome DE" is preferred...
[17:49] <raub> ilyaigpetrov: I would also think there are more people supporting GDE than KDE
[17:50] <raub> tgm4883: I being one who is tired of GDE. Running now lxde on my work computer. Would love to start it on boot without requiring more lard
[17:50] <raub> k1l: thanks!
[17:51] <tgm4883> raub: I'm just thinking that Unity would be preferred, and while it runs on gnome stuff now isn't Unity 8 Qt based?
[17:53] <raub> tgm4883: What I know is canonical likes Unity. That does not make it better, jus that they have their reasons
[17:53] <tarball> pavlos, yes, it says PASSED
[17:53] <kierqueen> can i install a stop watch or something to measure tiime ?
[17:53] <kierqueen> I need it guys ?
[17:54] <kierqueen> anyone knows ?
[17:54] <CrazySane> just a stopwatch application?
[17:54] <pavlos> tarball, can you send the pastebin?
[17:54] <raub> or measuring time for some program to do its thing?
[17:55] <CrazyTux> how 16.10 is different from 16.04?
[17:55] <energizer> Anyone ever seen this before? My desktop background looks like this instead of the image I set it to. https://imgur.com/a/VOQWH
[17:55] <k1l> energizer: video driver issue
[17:55] <CrazySane> kierqueen, Would this do the trick: http://www.online-stopwatch.com/
[17:55] <k1l> CrazySane: new kernel, new packageversions
[17:55] <energizer> k1l: using nvidia-378, do i have any options?
[17:55] <CrazySane> wrong tag.
[17:56] <tarball> pavlos, here it is: paste.ubuntu.com/23968079
[17:56] <k1l> kierqueen: install "stopwatch"?
[17:56] <ash_workz> any ideas on why I get a warning when using pg_ctlcluster? Warning: the cluster will not be running as a systemd service. Consider using systemctl
[17:56] <k1l> energizer: what video card? where did you get that driver from?
[17:57] <pavlos> tarball, disk looks ok, I dont see issues
[17:57] <tarball> pavlos, yours has been the right command, today k1l_ had asked me why I used the -d option. the reason was that I thought I had SATA disk, so I'd need to use the last option in the 'Results' section here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[17:57] <CrazySane> haha. k1l, I should have known there was a package litterally called stopwatch.
[17:58] <energizer> k1l: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] (rev a1), what do you mean where did i get driver from
[17:58] <tarball> after which I couldnt get details as I did npw
[17:58] <tarball> now*
[17:59] <CrazyTux> is there any GTD package available in Ubuntu/Xubuntu software centre? any app for pomodoro technique?
[18:00] <tarball> pavlos, all 'value' entries seem above the threshold or equal to the worst..doesn't that show something that fails?
[18:00] <manga> polaram
[18:01] <pavlos> tarball, the last col, RAW is the actual value
[18:01] <k1l> energizer: what was wrong with the ubuntu package?
[18:01] <pavlos> tarball, disk temp is 29 degrees
[18:02] <energizer> k1l: which ubuntu package
[18:02] <k1l> energizer: the driver
[18:02] <k1l> !info nvidia-378
[18:02] <k1l> energizer: you isntallled a non ubuntu driver and now its broken.
[18:03] <tarball> pavlos, so why should I think these strange things happened today with the shutdowns or the partitions resurrecting? :)
[18:03] <CrazySane> k1l, energizer: I've struggled with my propriortary nvidia drivers ll.
[18:03] <energizer> k1l: ok how do i install the driver i should have instead
[18:04] <k1l> energizer: that is why i asked what driver did you install and where did you get it from
[18:04] <pavlos> tarball, that I dont know. As I said earlier, strange that gparted re-creates partition
[18:05] <tarball> pavlos, I didnt even use gparted, I used fdisk command
[18:05] <k1l> energizer: first you need to remove the broken driver. but how to do that depends on how you installed it.
[18:05] <energizer> k1l: i got it from an apt pp
[18:05] <energizer> a
[18:05] <pavlos> tarball, either ... I use gparted, easy on the visual but on servers I use fdisk
[18:05] <k1l> energizer: then use ppa-purge
[18:06] <tgm4883> energizer: which ppa
[18:06] <ash_workz> pg_ctlcluster yields a WARNING about using systemd; I was told that if postgresql-common was installed correctly, I shouldn't be getting that warning...
[18:07] <energizer> tgm4883: graphics-drivers
[18:07] <energizer> k1l: ok purged, what next
[18:07] <ash_workz> can anyone confirm that?
[18:07] <ash_workz> oh wait... I can!
[18:08] <tgm4883> k1l: isn't that a supported ppa?
[18:08] <k1l> energizer: make sure you purge all nvidia related stuff: sudo apt purge nvidia*
[18:08] <k1l> tgm4883: "supported"? the 900 nvidia work fine with the drivers in the repos
[18:08] <CrazySane> "supported" is the right way to say that.
[18:08] <tarball> pavlos, I've just tried gparted, too. I select the partition as 'unformatted', yet it ends up being created formatted.
[18:09] <energizer> k1l: ok purged
[18:09] <energizer> what next
[18:09] <k1l> energizer: after that load the nvidia driver frome the repos. the version depends on your ubuntu version
[18:09] <energizer> k1l: 16.10
[18:10] <k1l> energizer: sudo apt install nvidia-367
[18:10] <tgm4883> CrazySane: no reason for "supported" it either is or it isn't
[18:10] <pavlos> tarball, any chance you can take a screenshot and upload to imgur.com
[18:10] <tgm4883> k1l: ok, I just thought that PPA was one of the blessed ones for support in this channel
[18:11] <k1l> tgm4883: its the other way around: if the driver in the repos doesnt work/is too old/is broken for that card, then you can try the ppa.
[18:11] <k1l> not: use the ppa in first place
[18:11] <tgm4883> k1l: fair enough
[18:11] <CrazySane> tgm4883, that may be true on paper, but I struggled for 18 months before the bugs were worked out to where my windows would draw without black squares developing everywhere. Fixed eventually.
[18:12] <energizer> k1l: installed, whats next
[18:12] <tgm4883> CrazySane: um, not sure what that has to do with whether we're supporting that PPA in this channel or not
[18:12] <k1l> energizer: relogin
[18:13] <CrazySane> It doesn't. I think we got our messages crossed, tgm4883
[18:13] <energizer> brb
[18:13] <tgm4883> CrazySane: :)
[18:13] <brunch875> I was about to suggest rebooting, but then I realized this isn't windows
[18:14] <amnix> hi
[18:14] <amnix> my wifi works fine when i run ubuntu live but once it gets installed it's super slow. how can i get this fixed?
[18:14] <CrazySane> amnix, are you saying the data rate is slow?
[18:15] <amnix> CrazySane: yes the internet speed.
[18:15] <amnix> CrazySane: It's fine when running ubuntu live.
[18:15] <tarball> pavlos, screenshot of gparted?
[18:15] <CrazySane> amnix, and what are you using to test this theory?
[18:15] <tfj> JOIN
[18:16] <ash_workz> weird; when I use pg_ctlcluster, it warns me to use systemd, and when I use systemd, it encounters an error and claims the cluster is already running, but pg_lsclusters reports that cluster as down
[18:16] <pavlos> tarball, yes, start gparted, select your device, it will show the partition, click on screenshot, give it 2 sec, it will save a image, upload that
[18:16] <amnix> everythings loading really slow and ive tested the speeds on speedtest.net
[18:16] <dorkmafia> k1l: do you know how I can capture the log output from the installer?
[18:16] <amnix> on live ubuntu, the speeds > 20
[18:16] <energizer> k1l: problem is fixed
[18:16] <energizer> thank you
[18:17] <amnix> when installed its < 2
[18:17] <k1l> energizer: keep in mind not always to go for the latest and greatest from 3rd party repos :)
[18:17] <energizer> k1l: lesson learned
[18:18] <dorkmafia> is there a support number for ubuntu I could call? I would glady donate some money if I could get linux installed on this beast
[18:19] <CrazySane> amnix, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:19] <amnix> 16.04
[18:19] <tarball> pavlos, here it is; https://is.gd/RWrpza
[18:19] <ash_workz> there is apparently someone in #postgresql whom uses pg_ctlcluster "all the time" and doesn't receive a warning
[18:20] <ash_workz> my local system does though
[18:20] <ash_workz> and systemd throws an error
[18:20] <pavlos> tarball, I thought your disk is sdc
[18:21] <tarball> pavlos, after reboot it is now sdb
[18:21] <CrazySane> amnix, whats the output of "lshw -class network"
[18:22] <pavlos> tarball, oh, select the 30GB, right click delete
[18:22] <nedstark> dorkmafia: unfortunately, canonical doesn't offer paid ubuntu phone support for anyone with less than 50 computers anymore.  you can get professional support for a single suse linux enterprise desktop for $120 per year https://www.suse.com/products/desktop/how-to-buy/
[18:23] <tarball> pavlos, ok, deleted
[18:24] <pavlos> tarball, it should show all disk as unallocated
[18:25] <tarball> pavlos, yes, it is all unallocated
[18:25] <amnix> CrazySane: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23968270/
[18:25] <pavlos> tarball, select the unallocated partition, right click new
[18:25] <tarball> pavlos, yes
[18:26] <pavlos> tarball, filesystem ext4, click add
[18:26] <Southern_Gentlem> and you are running gpartd as sudo?
[18:26] <pavlos> tarball, it should show new partion #1, ext4
[18:27] <CrazySane> amnix, This looks relivant to you even though it's 14.04. Same driver, same symptom. https://askubuntu.com/questions/457986/very-slow-intermittent-wifi-speeds-with-14-04-and-intel-pro-wireless-5100-agn
[18:27] <tarball> pavlos, done
[18:27] <tarball> yes
[18:27] <tarball> Southern_Gentlem, yes
[18:27] <pavlos> tarball, click apply (bottom left should read 0 operations pending
[18:28] <tarball> pavlos, yes
[18:28] <tarball> created partition
[18:28] <pavlos> can you take another screenshot
[18:28] <tarball> sure
[18:29] <CrazySane> amnix, One person there talks about 'updating' a kernel, but that are talking about an old one, so I'd ignore that answer.
[18:30] <tarball> pavlos, here it is; https://is.gd/UA6F8n
[18:30] <amnix> CrazySane: btw, i have this problem in other distros too.
[18:31] <pavlos> tarball, that looks good, right click check, apply, should be no errors
[18:31] <CrazySane> amnix, from what Google tells me with the query "wireless traffic slower on installed ubuntu" this particular driver/hw has this problem.
[18:31] <tarball> pavlos, is this the gui way of fsck?
[18:32] <tarball> pavlos, yes, no errors
[18:32] <pavlos> tarball, yes, if you click on details, you see the command
[18:32] <Erix> hi
[18:33] <pavlos> tarball, to me your disk should be fine.
[18:33] <pavlos> tarball, get out of gparted and use your disk
[18:33] <Ragametal_> so, i have a question with regards to the packages installed via apt-get install
[18:34] <CrazySane> !info firmware-iwlwifi
[18:34] <digbychicken> Ragametal_, shoot!
[18:34] <Ragametal_> according to packages.ubuntu.com, there are several versions of the package hdhomerun-config
[18:34] <Ragametal_> I’m currently running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. If I run apt-get install hdhomerun, which package version would be installed? The one listed on the Ubuntu webpage for trusty (20140121-1)? Or will it try to install the latest version listed for zesty (20161117-2)?
[18:34] <Ragametal_> if i wanted the latest package version, would i be better of compiling the package directly from the source?
[18:34] <nacc> Ragametal_: trusty, of course.
[18:35] <nacc> Ragametal_: you don't want to mix & match releases
[18:35] <k1l> Ragametal_: you cant mix the ubuntu releases. you need to use the one  for your release in use
[18:35] <k1l> Ragametal_: if you want a more recent one then look out for a 3rd aprty repos (like PPA) or compile yourself
[18:35] <Quetzalcoatl> hi. i'm receiving this error when I try to connect to an irc channel: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[18:35] <tarball> pavlos, I see. the only other thing that comes to mind is the casing of the external drive. maybe a loose connection with the disk..dont know whether it causes heating up or other problems..
[18:36] <CrazySane> Ragametal_, It's like trying to put a 2017 engine inside a 1960's automobile.. you might get it to fit, but it likely won't work right.
[18:36] <nacc> !register | Quetzalcoatl
[18:36] <tarball> today k1l_ had asked me first if I had a loose cable
[18:36] <Ragametal_> hmmm, i understand your point and i agree with it. however, i'm concerned that the additional improved functions are only available in the latest versions of the package
[18:36] <zeeb> hello all! I have recently started to get an error during boot after installing 16.10 - "Unable to parse from PCCI subspaces"; on digging online i found out that there may be some problems with grub, is it advisable for me to use Boot-Repair ?
[18:36] <Ragametal_> specially since the source is being distributed directly by the manufacturer (ie. silicondust)
[18:36] <CrazySane> Ragametal_, that's likely.
[18:36] <k1l> Ragametal_: did you try the version ubuntu ships  first?
[18:37] <nacc> !latest | Ragametal_
[18:37] <Ragametal_> no i haven't yet
[18:38] <Ragametal_> i will try the package version that ubuntu ships and see what happens. I guess that i'm overthinking things again
[18:39] <CrazySane> Ragametal_, just curious, why are you staying on 14?
[18:39] <ByteMore> Ragametal_: Test it with that older version, not much has happend to the old hdhomerun driver.
[18:39] <Ragametal_> it's a headless home server which have been running versy stable for some years now
[18:40] <CrazySane> I may be biased, but 16.04 is pretty stable. ;)
[18:41] <Ragametal_> that may be true but upgrading means disabling the server for some time (i don't have that much free time anymore) which will disrupt the normal use of the network from my wife
[18:41] <tarball> pavlos, anyway, using the disk..thank you so very much for helping me!
[18:41] <Ragametal_> as you know, happy wife, happy life
[18:41] <CrazySane> Ragametal_, only a few hours.
[18:42] <dork> and it's only going to be intrusive if it has to bounce a service or if you bounce the machine
[18:42] <pavlos> tarball, np
[18:42]  * CrazySane nods
[18:42] <dork> the upgrading process is fairly unintrusive until you bounce
[18:42] <Ragametal_> you guys are a bad influence
[18:42] <kierqueen> hi
[18:42] <Ragametal_> i'm almost convinced :P
[18:42] <kierqueen> Are there any free speed reading softwares , for adults ?
[18:43] <CrazySane> Ragametal_,   sudo do-release-upgrade    you know you want to. XD
[18:44] <donofrio> anyone here useing vmware air-watch, seems like the #vmware folks are not corp people, anyways where I work tehy will be enforing NAC for wireless (wired already locked down) and without an MDM agent I'll be locked out of any network access on my box ;(
[18:45] <Ragametal_> honestly, i build the server to learn linux. I've never done an upgrade and i'm afraid that some of the installed softwares will be broken by the upgrade or will not be compatible with the newer version
[18:45] <dork> it's probably just 802.1x
[18:45] <dork> Ragametal_: build your target version from source then
[18:45] <Ragametal_> translation, i'm not an expert on ubuntu or linux
[18:45] <dork> most ubuntu users aren't
[18:46] <kierqueen> Are there any softwares for speed reading ?
[18:46] <w9qbj> neither are Windoze users
[18:46] <kierqueen> They should be free
[18:46] <kierqueen> Are there any channels for these types of stufff
[18:47] <dork> speed reading == video tutorials
[18:47] <dork> what is speed reading?
[18:47] <Ragametal_> guys, thank you for the clarification. I will try the version that ships with ubuntu. If that doesn't work i wil try to compile from source. If that doesn't work, then i will upgrade
[18:48] <CrazySane> Ragametal_, I can't say I agree with your order of operations there, but good luck!
[18:48] <dork> the order's fine, it depends on the concerns of the user
[18:48] <dork> s/user/operator
[18:49] <CrazySane> dork, agreed. for that user.
[18:50] <wildlander> when is ubuntu 16.04.2 releasing?
[18:51] <CrazySane> wildlander, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[18:52] <wildlander> CrazySane, yeah that is yesterday date. But it is not released yet :)
[18:52] <CrazySane> wildlander, I guess I can respect your anticipation.
[18:52] <CrazySane> it's only been a day. XD
[18:53] <tarball> pavlos, I just found out that, while creating partition in gparted, the file system is selected as 'cleared' then the partition emerges as 'unknown' without having any fs
[18:53] <nicomachus> wildlander: sign up for the newsletter and you'll get emails when releases are out.
[18:53] <tarball> if the file system is selected*
[18:53] <dork> partitioning != applying a filesystem
[18:54] <wildlander> ok nicomachus
[18:54] <CrazySane> I love dork's method of using boolean math to explain concepts. It's the geek version of cavemen grunting.
[18:54] <k1l> wildlander: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-February/004030.html
[18:55] <dork> hah
[18:56] <pavlos> tarball, so you deleted all partitions, selected new and the filesystem dropbox is empty?
[18:57] <j4ckcom> if i use ubuntu on 128G hdd, then it is wasting storage?
[18:57] <tarball> pavlos, no, starting from the unallocated partition as you saw, I created the new partition, and while doing it, selected the 'cleared' fs option in gparted.
[18:57] <k1l> j4ckcom: i dont understand the question.
[18:57] <wildlander> k1l, that is more acurate, thanks.
[18:57] <k1l> wildlander: since there was no new mail i guess monday it is
[18:58] <pavlos> tarball, I did the same thing, then selected format to ntfs and apply (or ext4 and apply)
[18:58] <j4ckcom> k1l: if use ubuntu on 128G hard disk, then it is wasting hard disk?
[18:58] <kaynemo> hello all
[18:58] <kaynemo> anyone can help with powerpc running ubuntu 16.04?
[18:58] <CrazySane> !ask | kaynemo
[18:58] <Night_> stop spamming j4ckcom
[18:58] <j4ckcom> ok
[18:58] <k1l> j4ckcom: i dont understand what that has to do with waisting hard disk. you can install it on 10GB or 10TB disks. its about how much you want to insatll or safe there.
[18:59] <wildlander> k1l, yeah good to know, thanks again.
[18:59] <j4ckcom> k1l: thanks
[18:59] <k1l> kaynemo: does 16.04 support powerpc at all? i recall they dropped powerpc sometime
[18:59] <kaynemo> Ooops, sorry ! Here is the question: got 16.04 running with mate desktop on powerpc mac G5, booting with yaboot. I want it to boot straight to shell without gui. Is it possible to do so?
[18:59] <j4ckcom> 😀
[19:00] <kaynemo> yes powerpc runs ubuntu 16.04
[19:00] <Night_> How does this look as a configure ? https://paste.ngx.cc/95 Am I missing anything?
[19:00] <k1l> kaynemo: yes,  you need to add to grub that it needs to boot to multiuser.target
[19:01] <tarball> pavlos, yes, I just wanted to have the partitions 'unknown
[19:01] <tarball> hence different from their former formats
[19:01] <tarball> that was finally possible with 'cleared' option
[19:01] <kaynemo> k1l - the problem is there is no grub only yaboot
[19:01] <k1l> kaynemo: well, change the kernel line in yaboot then
[19:01] <tarball> pavlos, so maybe this option clears cache or like
[19:02] <kaynemo> k1l: could you be more specific?
[19:02] <pavlos> tarball, maybe ... I format mine as ext4 and use it
[19:03] <CrazySane> k1l, looks like this question explains it? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/58099/configuring-yaboot-and-debian-to-boot-into-a-command-line-login-shell
[19:03] <EriC^^> kaynemo: type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[19:03] <dork> clearing is tear down of any fs structures in place, unformatted is exactly that, untouched.
[19:03] <CrazySane> I've never used yaboot?
[19:03] <k1l> kaynemo: ok, seems like you can directly tell systemd to do that: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[19:03] <kaynemo> EriC^^: there is no grub
[19:04] <EriC^^> kaynemo: what do you mean? O.o
[19:04] <kaynemo> EriC^^: powerpc by default boots from yaboot
[19:04] <kaynemo> k1l: this systemd will force the system to start in shell?
[19:05] <k1l> yes
[19:05] <EriC^^> kaynemo: can you edit its config file?
[19:05] <kaynemo> EriC^^: if i can find it )))
[19:05] <jessec> Are processes started by systemd defaulted to root level permissions on the system?
[19:05] <EriC^^> kaynemo: try what k1l said
[19:06] <EriC^^> jessec: yes
[19:06] <k1l> jessec: no, that is told in the systemd process unit file as what user with what permissions it runs.
[19:06] <kaynemo> k1l: anyway to revert that systemd command if thigs go bad?
[19:07] <jessec> what about the sysv scripts in /etc/init.d it picks up? if there's no user, the default would be root eh?
[19:07] <k1l> kaynemo: sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target
[19:07] <EriC^^> jessec: by default its root
[19:07] <kaynemo> k1l: thank you very much ! if it fails, I'll return ))
[19:08] <k1l> jessec: yes
[19:08] <jessec> got it, this would be the same with older systems that use upstart and sysv as well for the most part right?
[19:09] <k1l> jessec: it was the same before
[19:09] <DosTuMai> Stupid question! I'm looking for a decent VM for a server. Any ideas?
[19:09] <jessec> thanks
[19:09] <CrazySane> !info libvirt
[19:09] <k1l> DosTuMai: can you elaborate?
[19:10] <k1l> DosTuMai: i would look at containers like lxc/lxd tbh
[19:10] <dork> i wouldn't
[19:10] <dork> depends on the usage
[19:10] <dork> but typically i'd go kvm/libvirt
[19:10] <oh_> hi
[19:10] <CrazySane> ditto on libvirt
[19:10] <dork> DosTuMai: what's the usage/scope of the project?
[19:10] <CrazySane> That's what I use in my environment
[19:11] <DosTuMai> Just virtualisation tasks.
[19:11] <kaynemo> k1l: thank you, man !! it worked perfectly !
[19:13] <oh_> where can i get this file 'abstractions/mysql'?
[19:13] <oh_> my ubuntu is 16.04
[19:14] <oh_> mysql 5.7
[19:14] <CrazySane> oh_, apparmor problem?
[19:14] <CrazySane> did you install mysql directly or using mysql-common mysql-server
[19:14] <oh_> it will create that file?
[19:14] <k1l> oh_: can you give more context? show errormessages on paste.ubuntu.com and link that here
[19:14] <oh_> apt-get install mysql-server
[19:15] <CrazySane> is mysql-common installed too?
[19:15] <oh_> don't know new to ubuntu
[19:15] <oh_> so don't know cmd
[19:15] <CrazySane> looks like k1l has some steps for you, I'll leave them be.
[19:16] <dork> DosTuMai: i recommend libvirt and kvm with virt-manager for easy provisioning, if you're just dabbling on a testing environment or testing code locally you could use vagrant and libvirt/kvm or vagrant and virtualbox
[19:16] <CrazySane> oh_, What is the output of "sudo apt install mysql-common"
[19:17] <oh_> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done mysql-common is already the newest version (5.7.17-0ubuntu0.16.04.1). 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:17] <CrazySane> oh_, ok. Just making sure you got common too. I've run into that in the past.
[19:18] <oh_> i purge it before and deleted that 'abstractions/mysql' so now it does not exists
[19:19] <DosTuMai> Dork: Pretty much what we're thinking. Thanks. =]
[19:19] <CrazySane> oh_, how did you delete it?
[19:19] <oh_> rm -f
[19:19] <CrazySane> oh_, why?
[19:20] <oh_> i follow some cmd of solution
[19:20] <CrazySane> oh_, any data in this sql server that we're worried about?
[19:20] <oh_> when removing mysql
[19:20] <oh_> nope
[19:20] <oh_> firesh mysql
[19:20] <oh_> fresh server lol
[19:21] <oh_> that shitty mysql causing me headache
[19:21] <dork> mysql is good stuff
[19:21] <oh_> it didn't pick my root password
[19:21] <dork> it asked you what root pass you want when you installed it
[19:22] <CrazySane> OK. Anyone have any objections here. I'd say oh_ - remove apparmor, remove mysql, purge, and reinstall.
[19:22]  * dork scrolls up
[19:22] <oh_> so i follow uninstall stuff and that how i deleted 'abstractions/mysql'
[19:22] <CrazySane> !root
[19:22] <oh_> mysql root is correct but shitty mysql not pick it
[19:23] <\9> are you saying that you set a root password?
[19:23] <CrazySane> Ah. My bad, you're talking about the completely unrelated mysql root user
[19:23] <\9> oh derp
[19:23] <oh_> yes in installation it ask root password
[19:23] <oh_> 2nd step is secure installation
[19:23] <hanshenrik> CrazySane, i suspect that the password hash is just /dev/urandom'ed data, and thus there technically is a password.. but it'd be very expensive to find it
[19:23] <dork> alternatively you can start it in safe mode and set a new one
[19:23] <\9> yeah that's alright
[19:24] <dork> just reset it in safe mode.
[19:24] <dork> or purge/reinstall
[19:24] <dork> if we're talking about the mysql root cred
[19:24] <CrazySane> oh_, sudo apt remove apparmor mysql-common mysql-server
[19:24] <oh_> what about 'abstractions/mysql' file?
[19:24] <\9> hanshenrik: that would mean that in theory it could be possible to crack it.. doesn't seem likely to me
[19:24] <CrazySane> sudo apt install mysql-common mysql-server
[19:25] <Southern_Gentlem> oh https://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password
[19:26] <nacc> oh_: abstractions/mysql is from the apparmor package
[19:26] <nacc> oh_: deleting it was a very wrong choice.
[19:26] <dork> only if you care about apparmor
[19:27] <oh_> have you have that file copy?
[19:27] <dork> otherwise it matters nothing.
[19:27] <oh_> yeah
[19:27] <nacc> dork: on Ubuntu, it matters, by default.
[19:27] <oh_> my mysql is fresh so no worry
[19:27] <dork> nacc: so you're saying if i delete that file, tear apparmor down completely, it will result in volatility?
[19:27] <oh_> but only root mysql password which not pick lol
[19:28] <nacc> dork: if you delete that file, it's relatively likely that MySQL will not run
[19:29] <dork> unless you put it in complain mode or TEAR APPARMOR DOWN
[19:29] <nacc> dork: there is no need to yell.
[19:29] <dork> as i said, it matters only if he cares about apparmor
[19:29] <CrazySane> dork, I'm getting the impression you hate apparmor?
[19:29] <nacc> dork: and as I said, that is the default.
[19:29] <dork> this is irc, to suggest i'm yelling is absurd.
[19:29] <nacc> dork: all caps is considered yelling
[19:29] <Southern_Gentlem> dork in irc caps is yelling
[19:29] <dork> CrazySane: no, just pointing out that this is probably not as big as a problem as 'we' are all making it out to be for this specific use case.
[19:30] <dork> i'm aware, it's still absurd. it's caps.
[19:30] <dork> he could probably set mysql for complain and will never have to think about it, and still have relative safety from apparmor
[19:32] <CrazySane> I'd say that it's easily fixed by purging and reinstalling the packages.
[19:32] <dork> he'll still end up putting it in complain mode down the road anyways, probably. but i agree that's also suitable.
[19:40] <dbristow> I see that 16.04.2 is due February 9th (yesterday), any news?  I don't see it yet.
[19:40] <wlp1s1> lol
[19:40] <dork> hah
[19:41] <HankMoody> Jesus I slept way later than I intended.
[19:42] <dax> dbristow: last i heard yesterday, the estimate was "theoretically could be Friday, more likely to be early next week"
[19:42] <CrazySane> Looking like Monday.
[19:42] <k1l> dbristow: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-February/004030.html
[19:43] <CrazySane> I was just scrolling back looking for that lonk
[19:43] <CrazySane> link
[19:45] <Goldman_> Hello everybody
[19:47] <CrazySane> Hi Goldman_ - did you have a question?
[19:48] <Goldman_> No CrazySane I'm just enjoing
[19:48] <Goldman_> enjoing having ubuntu
[19:54] <dhanesh> hey
[19:54] <DxB> hey
[19:54] <dhanesh> how are you
[19:55] <DxB> fine
[19:55] <dhanesh> any one here???
[19:55] <dhanesh> hello.........
[19:55] <dhanesh> okay...Byee
[19:55] <CrazySane> We're here
[19:57] <blocky> does anyone have an idea why my logitech K750 keyboard is generating events like XF86Back when I press the letter 'd' but most of the keys work correctly?
[20:08] <Night_> how do i remvoe old "tab" results, there is nginx and nginx.old there nwo bug no nginx is installed
[20:10] <CrazySane> Night: Perhaps someone else here understood your question, and they will respond, but until then - I don't understand what you're asking. Can you clarify?
[20:11] <Night_> CrazySane:  when i press write n in terminal and press tab, suggestions appare
[20:12] <Night_> there nginx and nginx.old coems up, I have done apt-get purge and autoremove
[20:12] <k1l> Night_: relogin
[20:12] <CrazySane> Night_: in your home folder?
[20:12] <Night_> CrazySane:  any folder
[20:12] <Night_> k1l:  2 sec
[20:13] <Night_> k1l: still there
[20:13] <k1l> is nginx still running?
[20:13] <Night_> cloed terminal and started itagain
[20:13] <Night_> should not be cant find it in ps
[20:14] <k1l> Night_: ". ~/.profile"
[20:15] <blocky> xev output of my strange keyboard issue here https://paste.linux.community/view/b706e0bd
[20:15] <k1l> Night_: but that will only work in the one terminal then. for system wide change you need to log out and login again from the desktop
[20:15] <Night_> ah from desktop
[20:15] <Night_> I have an vnc running
[20:15] <Night_> just monitoring av 10TB tranfsere
[20:16] <Night_> but that is running  from a screen so should not mather if i close it
[20:16] <Night_> looks like one nginx prosess is sitll running
[20:16] <Night_> root     19618  0.0  0.0  15756   960 pts/22   S+   21:16   0:00 grep --color=auto nginx
[20:17] <k1l> no, thats only the grep
[20:17] <Night_> yeah figured
[20:18] <Night_> so i have close also dekstop?
[20:18] <Night_> swiching over kvm now to logout
[20:18] <CrazySane> k1l: So what's the theory there? Path var?
[20:19] <Night_> k1l:  ill give a reboot a try once the transfere is done
[20:20] <k1l> the PATH variable is only loaded once. so programs loaded there will only be removed if the session is closed and loaded again
[20:20] <CrazySane> k1l: so, yes.
[20:20] <k1l> since you complain about programs beeing still in PATH you need to reload that.
[20:21] <Night_> k1l:  yeah, I'm trying to build nginx from soucne since i wwant an other module.
[20:21] <Night_> worked find on dev platfrom, but when i tried on prod it failed
[20:22] <xrandr> and all of a sudden, Quassel works
[20:22] <compdoc> yw
[20:24] <DWSR> anyone know if it's possible to emulate the effects of the `toram` boot option while Ubuntu is at desktop?
[20:25] <CrazySane> DWSR: which effects?
[20:26] <EriC^^> CrazySane: he wants it all in the ram
[20:26] <DWSR> CrazySane: The one where the kernel and the entire squashfs file is loaded all into RAM so that I can unplug the USB stick I'm booted from
[20:26] <dork> DWSR: yes
[20:26] <royal_screwup21> How do I put videos on a loop on totem? Is there a terminal command for doing so?
[20:26] <dork> there are plenty of write-ups
[20:27] <DWSR> dork: I haven't seen one where it's been done while Ubuntu is at desktop.
[20:27] <DWSR> Though I might not be using the right search terms
[20:27] <dork> you're not
[20:28] <CrazySane> royal_screwup21: I don't see a command line option on the manpage.
[20:28] <DWSR> dork: Mind linking then? I've seen https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594694 but that doesn't look quite right.
[20:29] <CrazySane> royal_screwup21: VLS has a command line option tho
[20:29] <royal_screwup21> CrazyEddy: Yeah, I didn't see one either. Is there a way to play a selected list of videos one after the other (without looping them)?
[20:29] <CrazySane> Er.. VLC, royal_screwup21
[20:29] <CrazySane> royal_screwup21: careful, another similar user here.
[20:30] <CrazySane> royal_screwup21: VLC has the -L switch you can use.
[20:31] <CrazySane> !info vlc > royal_screwup21
[20:31] <royal_screwup21> CrazySane my VLC isn't working - it's either not compatible with my system or there was some screw-up (LOL) in the installation process
[20:32] <CrazySane> royal_screwup21: Whee did you get your VLC package?
[20:32] <CrazySane> from apt?
[20:32] <royal_screwup21> yup, from apt
[20:32] <CrazySane> royal_screwup21: what specifically is wrong with your VLC?
[20:40] <CrazySane> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:40] <CrazySane> ugh
[20:47] <arooni> any way to map super + a => control a ?
[20:47] <arooni> on ubuntu 16.04
[20:50] <dork> arooni: ?
[20:51] <arooni> dork: i'm connected to my ubuntu laptop via synergy ; and for some silly reason control a on my keyboard gets mapped to super + a ( i use this for tmux) ... and id like it to work as i would want
[20:53] <CrazySane> arooni: I also use Synergy to connect 3 computers together, and I don't have that problem.
[20:54] <CrazySane> arooni: are you sure you don't want to try and figure out why Synergy is mapping incorrectly?
[20:57] <arooni> CrazySane: i did try that approach; but i think its because i'm using a microsoft scuplt keyboard on my mac mini (synergy server) and i did some mapping there already making caps lock = control to make tmux easier
[20:57] <arooni> i've honestly lost track of my mapping madness lol
[20:59] <CrazySane> arooni: I've never used tmux, I tend to use screen.
[20:59] <arooni> come to the dark side
[20:59] <arooni> you wont regret it
[21:02] <CrazySane> arooni: I'd say find a synergy irc channel and ask there. I wouldn't randomly map META+A to CTRL+A. See if you can get your Synergy working right.
[21:03] <arooni> fair enough
[21:03] <CrazySane> good luck!
[21:05] <kzet> I think I messed my Ubuntu installation up. I shrank about 20gb from my SSD that I have Windows 10 on. Then I just isntalled "alongside Windows 10", hoping Ubuntu would figure out by itself to install it in that particular partition. Which I think it did? But now like 4 days later, I'm having disk space issues. I'm new to Ubuntu, so what does this screen tell you?: http://i.imgur.com/vGufk3m.jpg
[21:08] <ppf> your linux partition is full
[21:09] <fuzzybear3965> My screen is black and I restarted lightdm.
[21:09] <fuzzybear3965> What's my next best line of attack?
[21:09] <fuzzybear3965> Ctrl+Alt+F1-6 does nothing.
[21:09] <k1l> kzet: run sudo apt autoremove
[21:10] <fuzzybear3965> kzet, `du -sh ~`.
[21:11] <ppf> fuzzybear3965: UI is on tty7
[21:11] <fuzzybear3965> ppf, yeah.
[21:11] <fuzzybear3965> Haha, I know that.
[21:11] <fuzzybear3965> I'm on TTY7, now.
[21:11] <fuzzybear3965> But, I'm just saying that, to go into "fix it" mode, TTY1-6 don't work.
[21:11] <fuzzybear3965> I'm SSHed in right now.
[21:13] <k1l> fuzzybear3965: did not boot up to the desktop or did it and did boot up properly before?
[21:13] <fuzzybear3965> k1l, I was in the desktop (everything working smoothly) and I tried to use Kodi.
[21:13] <arooni> is there a way to add a *second* shortcut (besides super) to get to the ubuntu's dashboard?
[21:13] <fuzzybear3965> I've been using Kodi for a while, now, and this happens frequently.
[21:14] <user__> hi
[21:14] <fuzzybear3965> When Kodi changes state (i.e. starts playing something or stops playing something) there's a 50/50 chance that that'll turn my screen black but leave the OS running.
[21:14] <fuzzybear3965> I haven't figured out a way to get the display back up and running, yet.
[21:15] <AlexPortable> I forgot my password, I have another account but it's not sudo. What can I more do?
[21:16] <AlexPortable> is it possible to recover the first letter of the password so I know which one it is ?
[21:16] <fuzzybear3965> AlexPortable, no.
[21:16] <wedgie> AlexPortable: no, but it is possible to reset the password with single user mode or a livecd
[21:16] <AlexPortable> single user mode?
[21:16] <wedgie> (this is more complicated if you have an encrypted home directory)
[21:17] <AlexPortable> i dont
[21:17] <AlexPortable> i can access my files
[21:17] <AlexPortable> but i would like to get into my account
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[21:17] <AlexPortable> or at least get to know which password i set
[21:17] <k1l> !password | AlexPortable
[21:17] <AlexPortable> which way would you recommend?
[21:18] <k1l> AlexPortable: the password is not stored in plain text. so you need to set a new one
[21:18] <AlexPortable> k1l: 'standard way', 'other way'  or 'other way lucid' ?
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  read the page, then use the way you want or looks easiest
[21:20] <k1l> AlexPortable: start with the standard way. it means you need to reboot into the recovery
[21:20] <kzet> k1l: what will autoremove do?
[21:21] <k1l> kzet: remove old kernels and packages that are marked as not needed anymore
[21:21] <kzet> fuzzybear3965: got a couple of "Permission denied" after typing du -sh ~. But the last line says "5,6G" on /home/kzet
[21:21] <kzet> k1l: alright, thanks! :)
[21:22] <k1l> kzet: i guess best is to reboot to a live ubuntu usb and look to resize the partitions. because that is a bit small now
[21:23] <kzet> yeah, I never thought I would use Ubuntu exclusively.
[21:23] <kzet> I haven't even installed anything on my Windows partition yet.
[21:23] <kzet> Not even sure why I have windows to begin with, I don't play games.
[21:24] <qmr> How do I install ubuntu server without creating a regular user?
[21:25] <qmr> forcing user to create an unneeded user account in the installer is retarded
[21:25] <jonii_> Hello. Ubuntu crashed on me, and upon restart, I get "no filesystem found"
[21:25] <k1l> qmr: its not "retarded". ubuntu is build around the usage of sudo
[21:25] <glache> How can I change the launcher so that it doesn't automatically scroll to the top?
[21:25] <qmr> jonii_:  sounds like your disk is hosed.  check smartctl
[21:26] <k1l> !sudo | qmr
[21:26] <jonii_> I can't really remember the exact way my filesystem is set up, I seem to have my main file system A-okay, but thereś suddenly 40gb of... space
[21:26] <qmr> k1l:  it is precisely that.  I will decide how to administer my network, thanks
[21:26] <qmr> yea I know what sudo is
[21:26] <jonii_> qmr, sorry, can you be a bit more specific?
[21:26] <jonii_> What do I do?
[21:27] <qmr> jonii_:  buy a new drive and restore from backup
[21:29] <jonii_> I don't have a backup
[21:30] <valenteen> Hola!
[21:31] <valenteen> Hey....Someone...lol...this is my 1st time in IRC, jusr thought i'd try it out.
[21:32] <valenteen> anyone got any advice and things i shoudl know and look out for?
[21:32] <valenteen> Or does this tend to jsut be tones of people quitting?
[21:33] <valenteen> ok so the reason I joing this channel is i've just loaded up wee through a basj sjell on Ubuntu and this seemed like a logical place to come. :p
[21:34] <nacc> valenteen: this is the ubuntu support channel, for helping with issues with Ubuntu. For general chitchat you should look to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:35] <valenteen> ah ok, I was hoping for some help with weechat, general advice etc.
[21:35] <valenteen> but i take it this is just for hardcore break fix and issues?
[21:35] <glache> How can I change the launcher so that it doesn't automatically scroll to the top?
[21:35] <nacc> valenteen: that's not the purpose of this channel, you can try a weechat specific channel
[21:35] <nacc> !alis | valenteen
[21:35] <valenteen> k fanx
[21:35] <valenteen> bye
[21:40] <Satie> Can anyone help me to solve a request time-out error? I'm using Ubuntu 16.05
[21:40] <Satie> .04*
[21:40] <jonii_> Uh, so, rest of my partitions work just fine
[21:40] <jonii_> It's just that some random 40gb partition, whose purpose I can't really remember right now, is without file system, and my ext4 filesystem may or may not be affected
[21:41] <\9> !ask | Satie
[21:42] <vgoodguy> HI
[21:43] <Satie> But I asked the question
[21:43] <wedgie> Satie: then you're going to have to provide a lot more detail
[21:43] <jonii_> also, qmr, Smartctl seems to report my hard drive functions just fine, at least according to the short test
[21:43] <jonii_> So I'm not really convinced I'm in dire need of new hard drive, I just need to make my system bootable again with as little damage as possible
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> Satie  start from the begining, what's the context, what are you trying to do and wher/when does it go wrong
[21:44] <jonii_> So, starting up, I'm thrown to Grub_rescue, saying no filesystem is found
[21:44] <k1l> Satie: keep in mind we dont see what you see and dont know what you havent told or shown us. i dont know what your issue is at all
[21:45] <nacc> Satie: you get a timeout. Show us when (pastebin a command and all output, e.g.).
[21:45] <k1l> jonii_: boot a ubuntu usb and do fsck on the partitions
[21:45] <jonii_> k11, I'm on lubuntu usb right now
[21:46] <k1l> jonii_: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:46] <bustle> im a linux beginner, looking to do dev work with php. Is there any disadvantage with using lubuntu instead of ubuntu for this?
[21:46] <k1l> jonii_: that will output an url , please show that here
[21:46] <wedgie> bustle: nope. Purely personal preference
[21:46] <bustle> wedgie: thanks
[21:46] <\9> bustle: the default desktop is the only difference
[21:47] <k1l> bustle: the main difference is the insatlled desktop. so the php version etc is the same
[21:48] <zuiss1> does anyone in here have minitube installed in 16.04? it seems broken. you can't search or play any youtube videos
[21:48] <jonii_> k11, this is what fsck says: http://pastebin.com/dcTGximA
[21:48] <k1l> jonii_: you dont fsck a whol disk
[21:49] <Satie> Hmm, the problem is that I haven't more details. I'm trying to access some websites but it gives 408 request timeout error. I'm grateful anyway.
[21:49] <jonii_> Okay
[21:49] <vfw> jonii_: fsdk partitions, like /dev/sda1 or 2 or...
[21:49] <k1l> jonii_: please show the output of my command
[21:50] <wedgie> Satie: sounds more like  problem with the site or your internet connection. Does every website do this or only one?
[21:50] <k1l> jonii_: for fsck you need to specify the partition. like sda1 or such
[21:50] <Satie> Almost every.
[21:50] <jonii_> So ext4 partition?
[21:50] <jonii_> There's some header partition that ext4 is in
[21:50] <k1l> jonii_: should we just guess?
[21:50] <jonii_> I don't really nuderstand
 jonii_: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:52] <vfw> jonii_: Send us resulting URL so we can see.
[21:52] <jonii_> k1l: http://termbin.com/er08
[21:52] <glache> In Unity, how can I change the launcher so that it doesn't automatically scroll to the top?
[21:53] <vfw> jonii_: So you want to do /dev/sda6  Right?
[21:53] <jonii_> The 40gb partition is a mystery to me. I'm thinking it may very well have been junk space that sorta came about because I messed up trying to get rid of swap partition
[21:53] <k1l> jonii_: ok, so this is what you did before? change partitions?
[21:54] <jonii_> http://pastebin.com/Nx8K6nqf
[21:54] <jonii_> k1l: my computer crashed
[21:54] <jonii_> k1l: I was playing games, and listening to music on youtube. I hadn't touched my HDD settings in maybe a year or so
[21:55] <vfw> jonii_: Was it mounted when you tried to fsck it?
[21:56] <vfw> jonii_: (Never fsck a mounted partition.)
[21:57] <jonii_> I don't think it's mounted?
[21:58] <vfw> jonii_: mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:58] <jonii_> vfw: yeah, I don't really think it's mounted? Not 100% certain
[21:58] <nathdwek> Hey small but weird question, I have a bizarre issue with my name resolution in my local network
[21:58] <vfw> nathdwek: So what nameserver are you using?
[21:58] <jonii_> http://termbin.com/acss
[21:58] <nathdwek> I had a working ssh config, based around .local names, and it started acting up when I upgraded a machine from fedora22 to ubuntu16.10
[21:59] <nathdwek> so here's the weirdness, I have two 16.10 machines with almost identical config, on a local network
[21:59] <nathdwek> from machine A, I can ping B.local, B and B.lan do not work
[22:00] <vfw> nathdwek: Are you using IP addresses or hostnames?
[22:00] <nathdwek> from machine B, I can ping A.lan, A, but not A.local
[22:00] <nathdwek> where A and B are hostnames of course
[22:00] <vfw> nathdwek: All on the local network?
[22:00] <nathdwek> yup
[22:01] <ppf> got avahi running?
[22:01] <nathdwek> yes
[22:01] <ppf> that'll interfere with .local names
[22:02] <nathdwek> I got it running on both ends though...
[22:02] <blueking> currently formatting a 8TB hdd :)
[22:02] <ppf> cause windows networks are treating .local differently
[22:02] <blueking> default are 5% reserved for root ?
[22:02] <ppf> you can put avahi on a different domain, if you want
[22:02] <jonii_> vfw: well? I think it wasn't mounted
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> blueking  15-20GB shoul be eough for /
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> should*
[22:03] <ppf> or just don't use it for name resolution
[22:03] <vfw> nathdwek: nmap -sP your netwrok and take a look.
[22:03] <blueking> but it's default when format ext3 ?
[22:03] <vfw> nathdwek: nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24  (Example)
[22:04] <blueking> MonkeyDust is it default 5% ?
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> blueking  not sure
[22:05] <nathdwek> vfw well I got a normal output with .lan names
[22:06] <vfw> nathdwek: Is it all as you expected?
[22:06] <jonii_> Oh, also, I use Lubuntu. I don't know if it matters, but when opening gparted, gparted said "To view ext4 file systems you should install this package X"
[22:06] <vfw> nathdwek: If you can not ping the hostname, try the IP address.
[22:06] <nathdwek> yeah static works, I already checked that
[22:06] <jonii_> I'm not sure if that's actually the case, if that's just a symptom of file system being broken, or if lubuntu really lacks tools required to view ext4
[22:07] <vfw> nathdwek: So what is the problem?
[22:07] <jonii_> I don't typically use Lubuntu, I just happened to have Lubuntu USB stick near me
[22:07] <vfw> nathdwek: (not sure what you mean by "static".
[22:07] <nathdwek> as I said before, it's this weird thing where on the one side I should use .local names, and on the other .lan names
[22:07] <jonii_> Not sure what it has and doesn't have
[22:07] <nathdwek> or names with no "tld"
[22:08] <nathdwek> well hand assigning (or checking) an IP and pinging or sshing to it
[22:08] <Guest20220> i greet you my English is not too good but somehow l will try to describe it to you .. i have a problem with ubuntu server 16.04 router does not see a computer ive tried sudo service network-manager restart but does not work
[22:08] <vfw> nathdwek: Not sure what you mean by ".local" and ".lan"
[22:08] <blueking> just wonder if I can go below 1%
[22:08] <nathdwek> jesus
[22:08] <blueking> with tune2fs -m 0,1 as example
[22:08] <nathdwek> Ok assume machine 1 has hostname A and machine 2 has hostname B
[22:09] <nathdwek> from machine A, I can {ssh, ping} into machine B using either as an adress B.lan or B
[22:09] <vfw> nathdwek: Define "one side" and "other"
[22:09] <nathdwek> from machine B I can do it, but I have to use address A.local only
[22:10] <vfw> nathdwek: Too many hypotheticals.
[22:10] <nathdwek> those are not hypothetical, those are symptoms
[22:11] <nathdwek> I mean I can't make it any clearer than that really, I'm trying my best
[22:11] <vfw> nathdwek: So there are actual hostnames "machine B" and "A.local"?
[22:11] <nathdwek> ok my hostname are nathome and nathdwek-w740su, what good does that do to you
[22:13] <jonii_> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/114429/short-read-while-trying-to-open-partition
[22:13] <vfw> nmap -sP 10.1.1.0/24 |nc termbin.com 9999
[22:13] <jonii_> I found this advice, and it sorta boils down to block size
[22:13] <jonii_> "Linux says block size is 512, but descriptor says it's 2048"
[22:13] <dork> what's the problem?
[22:13] <V7> hey all
[22:13]  * dork scrolls up lazily
[22:13] <vfw> nathdwek: Tell us which one you have a problem with and what the problem is.
[22:14] <ppf> nathdwek: he did
[22:14] <V7> I have issue with adding auto startup in ubuntu 14.05
[22:14] <V7> 14.04 *
[22:14] <k1l> jonii_: this message comes from the usb pendrive. when you dd an image with another block size to the usb. but that is not relevant to any other issue
[22:14] <Guest20220> i greet you my English is not too good but somehow l will try to describe it to you .. i have a problem with ubuntu server 16.04 router does not see a computer ive tried sudo service network-manager restart but does not work
[22:14] <ppf> nathdwek: can you try disabling avahi for a moment?
[22:14] <nathdwek> both sides?
[22:14] <ppf> in nsswitch, remove mdns_minimal
[22:15] <ppf> the side you're connecting from
[22:15] <xrandr> Guest20220: please explain a little more. Does the server control the internet connection? What do you mean that the router does not see a computer?
[22:16] <V7> So
[22:16] <V7> I've created this file http://termbin.com/tyvv
[22:16] <V7> In /etc/init.d folder
[22:16] <nathdwek> Maybe it is a network thing where it takes some seconds to propagate/run out ttl, but for now it behaves the same
[22:16] <V7> Then I've executed this sudo update-rc.d unrealircd enable
[22:16] <dork> it's not real dns
[22:16] <dork> so it's not a ttl thing
[22:16] <V7> I command returned this: https://hastebin.com/riboxebibo.sql
[22:16] <V7> What shuld I do :) ?
[22:16] <V7> should *
[22:17] <V7> Command *
[22:17] <blueking> what's diff on ext3 and ext4 ?
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> blueking  journalling
[22:17] <dork> ah guess it does
[22:17] <k1l> MonkeyDust: no, ext3 already got journaling
[22:17] <blueking> what's best for movies/media ?
[22:18] <k1l> blueking: i think support for ext is already dead
[22:18] <ppf> nathdwek: so you can ping A, but not A.local?
[22:18] <dork> k1l: better journaling
[22:18] <k1l> blueking: ext4 is fine for ubuntu
[22:18] <nathdwek> yes exactly
[22:18] <k1l> dork: well, yes :)
[22:18] <nathdwek> I know it is not a real issue in itself, but the assymetry is weird, and I'd prefer not to have two sets of ssh configs with different conventions
[22:20] <nathdwek> k1l: wait what?
[22:20] <k1l> nathdwek: what?
[22:20] <ppf> avahi sadly is .. strange
[22:20] <dork> bonjour is strange
[22:20] <nathdwek> support for ext is dead? I love btrfs and all, but that's a bit strong lol
[22:21] <dork> it's definitely not dead
[22:21] <dork> not even EOL
[22:21] <k1l> nathdwek: no, not ext.
[22:21] <k1l> nathdwek: ext3. there are still ext2 and ext4. the number has a meaning.
[22:21] <nacc> I think it was just a typo earlier
[22:21] <nathdwek> ah sorry must have misread
[22:22] <nathdwek> ah no actually a typo, ok np
[22:22] <ppf> dork: yes bonjour is strange, too
[22:23] <vfw> ext4 just has the journaling feature enabled
[22:23] <vfw> vs ext3 without
[22:23] <dork> and journaling improvements
[22:24] <vfw> I agree, it is an improvement
[22:24] <nathdwek> ok ppf, I maybe have an idea
[22:24] <ppf> let's hear it!
[22:24] <wallid> hey guys
[22:24] <nathdwek> the other place where this is really assymetrical, is the fact that nathome is a desktop with a static ip, and the other one is laptop on dhcp
[22:25] <dork> doesn't matter
[22:25] <nathdwek> I don't know how the knowledge of that would propagate upwards, but it is one of the point where the machines differ a lot
[22:25] <Guest20220> I installed Ubuntu 15.10 three days ago and all work happening with the internet ive downladed everything i wanted and installed today i got a message about a new version lve downladed and when internet does not have internet on ubuntu i change the drive for xp all works the problem is with the card ubuntu 16.04 and a problem with the wake up internet connection :)
[22:25] <nathdwek> dork: yeah thought so too, but http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/16890/how-to-make-a-machine-accessible-from-the-lan-using-its-hostname rang a bell
[22:25] <vfw> nathdwek: Use static IPs or static leases via router
[22:26] <nathdwek> yeah I could do that, it's just that it is sweeping the issue under the rug
[22:26] <dork> ^ not necessary, ut make sure you didn't create an ip conflict
[22:27] <vfw> nathdwek: It will solve the issue, (issue will go away).
[22:27] <dork> nathdwek: cat /etc/hosts and arp -a pastebin please
[22:27] <dork> i don't see how that will solve his issue
[22:27] <k1l> for the ones wondering about my statement about ext3: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/7/15/438  there was a patch to remove native ext3 support from the kernel since ext4 is the successor
[22:27] <ppf> vfw: no it won't really?
[22:28] <vfw> dork: Maybe I do not fully understand his issue?
[22:28] <dork> no it definitely won't
[22:28] <vfw> ppf: Not sure what he is trying to do.
[22:28] <ppf> vfw: the issue is pretty clear?
[22:28] <dork> unless his static'd host is using an IP that is part of his dhcp range and he created a conflict that's not it
[22:28] <vfw> ppf: So what is it?
[22:28] <ppf> trying to understand why avahi name lookup isn't successful
[22:28] <gianlu_ka> anybody italian???
[22:29] <ppf> !it | gianlu_ka
[22:29] <dork> #ubuntu-it probably
[22:29] <vfw> dork: Only set static IPs outside the dhcp pool
[22:29] <ppf> this isn't about IPs though
[22:29] <dork> vfw: i know this, but my point is your suggestion doesn't matter unless he is experiencing an ip conflict
[22:29] <nathdwek> ppf: read your request. I'm just tinkering around for a minute, will come back to you in 5 if possible
[22:29] <gianlu_ka> thanks
[22:29] <dork> avahi/bonjour is all multicast based.
[22:29] <nathdwek> ppf: and thanks a lot for the help
[22:30] <vfw> dork:  But we do not know if he is encountering an IP conflict
[22:30] <dork> true!
[22:30] <dork> nathdwek: sudo arp -a
[22:31] <nathdwek> yeah I don't have an IP conflict....
[22:31] <ppf> we do know
[22:31] <ppf> he said so
[22:31] <vfw> dork: Or  nmap -pS 10.1.1.0/24
[22:31] <nathdwek> like I don't even know wtf you're thinking vfw
[22:31] <dork> vfw: wasteful
[22:31] <ppf> vfw: please
[22:31] <vfw> ok
[22:32] <dork> also people say a lot of things, that doesn't mean anything. especially in here.
[22:32] <dork> until i see a pastebin of what i've asked for
[22:33] <ppf> dork: he said name resolution without tld was successful
[22:33] <dork> which could easily be a host entry
[22:33] <dork> which is why i asked for a pastebin of /etc/hosts
[22:33] <nathdwek> dork: good point, but  it isn't, should have said so
[22:33] <dork> i'm aware of what he said and i'm aware of my qualifications.
[22:34] <nathdwek> I'm sorry to not give feedback sooner, I just tinkered with my router a bit and wait for everything to propagate
[22:34] <ppf> dork: i'm not criticising
[22:34] <dork> nathdwek: you said this was a fresh install and never worked?
[22:34] <dork> what's the history
[22:34] <nathdwek> there were some old static mappings left around, I doubt it would interact with this issue, but you never know
[22:34] <gianlu_ka> hello
[22:35] <dork> absolutely it would
[22:35] <dork> pastebin results of arp -a
[22:35] <nathdwek> dork: so previously it was a F22
[22:35] <ppf> and hosts and nsswitch, please
[22:35] <nathdwek> and I always used .local names
[22:35] <nathdwek> without asking questions
[22:35] <nathdwek> and it worked both ways
[22:36] <nathdwek> be back in a minute, have to get a fresh dhcp lease
[22:37] <dork> brb gonna test some stuff locally
[22:37] <nathdwek> quit
[22:37] <tobsterius> part
[22:39] <vfw> nathdwek may just need a better router.
[22:40] <dork> i bet it's layer 2-3 related
[22:40] <chucky> .
[22:40] <vfw> hard telling
[22:40] <chucky> hi
[22:41] <chucky> ?
[22:41] <dork> speak, charles.
[22:41] <vfw> I recommend mikrotik or buffalo
[22:41] <dork> routeros ftw, dd-wrt is eol right?
[22:42] <dork> i recommend building routers out of pure linux
[22:42] <vfw> yea dd-wrt
[22:42] <chucky> i knew someone's ip how can i hack him
[22:42] <dork> chucky: by typing /quit
[22:42] <chucky> or know more about him
[22:42] <OerHeks> chucky, silly question, wrong channel.
[22:42] <dork> ask him out on a nice lunch date
[22:42] <dork> if he pulls your seat out for you, he's a gentleman.
[22:43] <chucky> :(
[22:43] <chucky> i'm beginner :(
[22:43] <chucky> is there a channel for beginners
[22:43] <dork> your own, empty channel
[22:43] <chucky> :D
[22:44] <nacc> chucky: this can be a channel for beginners, but hacking is offtopic here.
[22:44] <chucky> how did u learn on linux
[22:44] <k1l> chucky: you wont find a channel here on freenode for that
[22:44] <nacc> chucky: you may want #ubuntu-offtopic (but hacking is also offtopic there, and generally on freenode)
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> chucky  learn linux like you learned windows or mac: by using it
[22:44] <chucky> :(
[22:44] <chucky> linux is harder
[22:45] <xrandr> chucky: do you have a specific question?
[22:45] <elias_a> Hacking offtopic=
[22:45] <elias_a> ?
[22:45] <kzet> How do I setup my unallocated drives in Ubuntu? I have install ubuntu, but I have two unallocated drives that I want to be accessible.
[22:45] <ppf> any idea whether there's chrome for armhf?
[22:45] <chucky> then this channel for what
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> chucky  type    /topic
[22:45] <genii> elias_a: Yes, it's offtopic for this channel.
[22:45] <k1l> kzet: drives or partitions?
[22:45] <elias_a> Or cracking?
[22:45] <kzet> k1l: two physical drives that are unallocated. one ssd and one hdd.
[22:46] <genii> elias_a: Correct.
[22:46] <krizoek> security is important, but i think cali linux seems more to be for the offensive
[22:46] <kzet> k1l: I tried using "disks", but I got an error while allocating the hdd.
[22:46] <dork> lol @ a topic being off topic in a channel named -offtopic
[22:46] <k1l> kzet: i prefer "gparted"
[22:47] <kzet> Alright, I'll get that then.
[22:47] <elias_a> genii: Hacking or cracking? Two different things.
[22:47] <krizoek> i myself is trying to learn the other side of hacking. preventing it :)
[22:47] <dork> krizoek: you can't do that unless you know infosec.
[22:47] <dork> ie hacking
[22:47] <vfw> kzet: You have to set up mount points and mount the individual partitions.
[22:47] <nacc> ppf: you'd have to see if google offers it in their repo
[22:47] <krizoek> maybe that is true to some degree dork
[22:48] <dork> it absolutely is.
[22:48] <chucky> then i need another help
[22:48] <genii> elias_a: Support for Ubuntu problems is the on-topic for this channel. Nothing else.
[22:48] <dork> how can you protect yourself against something you can't do yourself, lol.
[22:48] <nacc> ppf: chromium-browser is available for armhf, though
[22:48] <nacc> ppf: from ubuntu
[22:49] <elias_a> genii: Well, in Finnish vocabulary developing is also hacking.
[22:49] <krizoek> you can use a gun, or take up a shield. i think there is a big difference between offensive and defensive strategy
[22:49] <ppf> nacc: i know, but i suspect it's unable to run the html5 drm thing
[22:49] <wendico> hello, how do i upgrade  IBus to version 1.5.11 ?? thank you
[22:49] <chucky> when i downloaded kali on  external hdd , the windows does not open without the external hdd
[22:49] <dork> ppf: why? html5 is spearheaded by google and chromium is a google browser
[22:50] <elias_a> genii: And has been even before Linus moved to uncivilized part of the world...
[22:50] <k1l> wendico: what ubuntu in use and what is the reason?
[22:50] <genii> elias_a: Perhaps ask them in #ubuntu-fi then and see what they say. But if you mean programming or development, this is still not the correct channel.
[22:50] <nacc> chucky: neither kali or windows are ontopic for this channel
[22:50] <kzet> k1l: do I use ext4 on a drive that I just want to store media on?
[22:50] <chucky> :D
[22:51] <k1l> kzet: yes.
[22:51] <elias_a> genii: I have been on ubuntu-fi for over 10 years. :)
[22:51] <dork> kzet: if you want to mount that drive in a non-linux box easily you might want to just make it fat
[22:51] <wendico> k1l: ubuntu 14.04 lts up to date 64bits, reason is android studio warning i should do it
[22:51] <k1l> wendico: in short: you dont easily update that
[22:51] <nacc> wendico: officially, 14.04 does not have ibus 1.5.11
[22:51] <OerHeks> ubuntu elias_a
[22:51] <ppf> dork:i know that. i'm trying chromium unsuccessfully just know
[22:51] <OerHeks> 10 years?
[22:51] <krizoek> i think that tools such as a IDS should have come with all ubuntu distros. like snort with snorby. but i think it would be more popular if someone just made a simpler software interface for it
[22:52] <elias_a> genii: I just cannot get how people can have such a narrow usage of the concept of hacking.
[22:52] <ppf> wanted to try chrome, hence
[22:52] <dork> krizoek: that would be a waste
[22:52] <k1l> wendico: and since ibus is quite a deep system component its not that easy.
[22:52] <kzet> k1l: thanks! GParted was super easy to use, appreciate your help.
[22:52] <krizoek> why do you say that dork ?
[22:52] <genii> elias_a: The proper channel for development would be either in a channel relating to the computer language you are using, or the channel of the name of the program you are developing for, or in rare instance, #ubuntu-devel
[22:52] <dork> 99% of the ubuntu user base doesn't even know how the internet works much less why they need snort or how to effectively use it
[22:52] <jonii_> I managed to salvage it!!
[22:52] <k1l> wendico: maybe you are better of just upgrading to 16.04?
[22:52] <wendico> k1l: i could also "or add "export IBUS_ENABLE_SYNC_MODE=1" to your ~/.profile, then restart a session." but i dont even understand what this sentence means hehe
[22:53] <nathdwek> dork, ppf: so I removed legacy static mappings and I can use tld-less names on both ends now :
[22:53] <nathdwek> :) *
[22:53] <krizoek> how else would someone know if there was a hacking attempt?
[22:53] <nathdwek> I think I'm gonna stick to that
[22:53] <elias_a> genii: Oh come on now.... you make yourself a fool.
[22:53] <dork> nathdwek: cool
[22:53] <nacc> elias_a: in the context of the question that prompted you, hacking was not intended in the sense of developing software. It was specifically in refernce to hackin ga computer.
[22:53] <krizoek> you need IDS, tripwire, sync checks...
[22:53] <nathdwek> There are a lot of artifacts remaining in arp for now
[22:54] <dork> it will flush out
[22:54] <nathdwek> So I hope all those will disappear overnight, and tomorrow .lan and .local should behave the same on both ends
[22:54] <dork> nathdwek: i'm guessing the static maps were on a different network/subnet?
[22:54] <dork> or did you actually see them in arp?
[22:54] <nathdwek> for now I have a lot of ? at <incomplete> left everywhere :)
[22:54] <wendico> k1l my system is not working correctly with 16.04, i tried
[22:54] <elias_a> nacc: It should be said then that "black hat hacking is off-topic".
[22:55] <elias_a> nacc: No need to brutalize concepts.
[22:55] <nathdwek> dork, ok if you want the full story: I had nathome hardwired as 192.168.1.19 (yeah I know 192.168.1 ipv4, ew) on the router before reinstalling nathome as a ubuntu
[22:55] <nacc> elias_a: we also directed it specifically at that user in that context.
[22:55] <vfw> dork: I asked him if it was all on one lan early on....
[22:55] <nathdwek> then I reinstalled ubuntu on nathome, with the same hostname
[22:55] <dork> lol
[22:55] <nathdwek> but for some reason obv, the router thought those were differente
[22:56] <jonii_> Hey, I was trying to salvage my filesystem
[22:56] <nathdwek> even though hostname and HW addr were the same
[22:56] <dork> the router didn't care at all, it's multicast
[22:56] <dork> but good to know, glad you solved it
[22:56] <jonii_> And now I did it, but I need to unmount the filesystem to proceed
[22:56] <jonii_> How do I unmount things?
[22:56] <vfw> a *good* router makes a big difference
[22:56] <dork> jonii_: umount -fl /mount/point
[22:56] <dork> vfw: no it doesnt :P
[22:56] <dork> not in his case.
[22:56] <ppf> opera is chromium-based, too, right?
[22:56] <dork> has nothing to do with it.
[22:57] <dork> ppf: no
[22:57] <nathdwek> so I think depending on how exactly you would ask the router to resolve a name, it would either send you packing, give you the old static adress which wasn't populated, or give you the right dhcp address
[22:57] <dork> you mean webkit based?
[22:57] <dork> errr
[22:57] <dork> whatever their engine is
[22:57] <backbox> hey
[22:57] <nathdwek> gecko, no?
[22:57]  * genii slides elias_a a fresh coffee and goes back to working on actual problems
[22:57] <dork> maybe it uses geck
[22:57] <backbox> im new
[22:57] <krizoek> i dont think a preinstalled IDS would be a waste. but rather create more interest in security
[22:57] <dork> it's V8 like chrome
[22:57] <dork> krizoek: definitely not.
[22:58] <vfw> nathdwek: Your router has a caching nameserver. Right?
[22:58] <dork> vfw: do you understand how multicast works?
[22:58] <krizoek> you think it would scare people away dork ?
[22:58] <goodguy> i m having trouble with ubuntu
[22:58] <vfw> dork: Not really
[22:58] <vfw> dork: Tell me.
[22:59] <Bashing-om> !ask | goodguy
[22:59] <ppf> dork: the problem is i need that drm/cdm plugin
[22:59] <dork> krizoek: no, i think people would continue to not care but it would be a waste of bandwidth and iops to bundle it with out of the box with an end-user newbie linux distro
[22:59] <dork> vfw: do you understand what broadcasting is?
[23:00] <goodguy> I wanna rob the local bank but "sudo hackthebank" command won't work. :Bashing-om
[23:00] <vfw> dork: Yes,  and multicasting is simply sending data to multiple PCs at once. Right?
[23:00] <wendico> can i "echo 'export IBUS_ENABLE_SYNC_MODE=1' >> ~/.profile"  ?? is that what i have to do? thank you
[23:00] <goodguy> are there any missing packages. LOL Bashing-om
[23:00] <dork> vfw: feel free to google it. although i myself like routeros (i myself am a mtcre/mtcwe/mtctce, love the stuff) his router is inculpable of his issue, as indicative by his resolving his issues
[23:01] <ppf> vfw: yes, on some abstraction level
[23:01] <cagomez> I'm following this script to install openvpn on my ubuntu vps... https://github.com/Angristan/OpenVPN-install ... can multiple clients use the same client.ovpn config to connect to it (not at the same time)?
[23:01] <k1l> wendico: what is the exact error you get from android studio?
[23:01] <backbox> anyone speak french please!
[23:01] <dork> !fr backbox
[23:01] <dork> :(
[23:01] <ppf> !fr | backbox
[23:01] <dork> ah, right
[23:01] <vfw> ppf: dork Ok
[23:02] <xrandr> is there  a way to get ubuntu mobile on my tablet? Is there a place to download it along with instructions?
[23:02] <vfw> !touch | xrandr
[23:02] <wendico> System Health: IBus prior to 1.5.11 may cause imput problems. See https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-78860 for details is the error k1l
[23:02] <k1l> xrandr: #ubuntu-touch and you might need to make a port first
[23:02] <xrandr> thanks
[23:03] <k1l> wendico: this looks like a warning. not an error
[23:04] <wendico> k1l, could you please follow the link and tell me how do i add "export IBUS_ENABLE_SYNC_MODE=1" to your ~/.profile
[23:04] <wendico> thank you very much
[23:04] <wendico> seems that that the solution is that easy
[23:05] <wendico> i guessed i could just echo 'export IBUS_ENABLE_SYNC_MODE=1' >> ~/.profile but im scared since on that file i can read conditionals and that is just a line
[23:05] <wendico> im learning programming im not sure of nothing lol
[23:05] <k1l> wendico: open the file, add the command at the end. then log out and login again
[23:05] <wendico> thank you very much k1l
[23:05] <ppf> dork: opera doesn't have an armhf version either :(
[23:06] <ppf> the world's against me again!
[23:06] <wendico> i studied so much my head is burning i am to confused hehe
[23:06] <dork> bummer
[23:06] <dork> you trying to make something out of a pi?
[23:07] <ppf> trying to watch sky go on it
[23:09] <ppf> i have it running as a general purpose media thingy in my living room, (for kodi and steam primarily). and i wanted to add sky to the mix
[23:09] <ppf> but i'm failing miserably
[23:09] <nathdwek> ha I'm in the same boat
[23:10] <Amareno> guys, can i use any other port except 25 when building mailserver?
[23:10] <ppf> Amareno: sure
[23:10] <nathdwek> I mean I'm at the "bought it on clearance, waiting for it" phase
[23:10] <ppf> nathdwek: the pi?
[23:10] <nathdwek> yeah
[23:10] <Amareno> ppf: 587 ?
[23:11] <nathdwek> I got a 3 with box and (useless) charger for like €7
[23:11] <ppf> Amareno: you can, but it'll be a large effort
[23:11] <ppf> nice!
[23:11] <Amareno> ppf: which one to use ?
[23:11] <nathdwek> I was planning on watching netflix and using vlc on it
[23:11] <ppf> whichever you want?
[23:11] <ppf> if you figure out how to do netflix let me know!
[23:11] <nathdwek> so you're saying netflix might be a challenge or sky go has a specific player?
[23:11] <nathdwek> ah ok
[23:11] <nathdwek> well
[23:11] <tomreyn> Amareno: with all implementations i know of, you can bind the smtpd to any port you like. mail won't be delivered there by external mail servers, though,
[23:12] <ppf> cause if it can do netflix it can do sky :)
[23:12] <nathdwek> yeah that's why you caught my eye
[23:12] <nathdwek> Well I'll start with sshfs+vlc probably
[23:12] <nathdwek> then I'll see where I can go
[23:12] <Amareno> tomreyn: so even if i set up the new port, i cant send mail to gmail for example?
[23:12] <adymitruk> I need to do an unattended USB install of ubunutu
[23:13] <ppf> the tv can do netflix, so i'm covered there. the pi is connected to a file-server and to steam
[23:13] <adymitruk> my video is not working on an intel nuc
[23:13] <tomreyn> Amareno: i was referring to inbound mail, not outbound mail.
[23:13] <nathdwek> the tv 'can' do netflix as well
[23:13] <nathdwek> And by can I mean can't
[23:14] <nathdwek> I never watched more than 20 frames on it I believe, quite frustrating
[23:14] <tomreyn> Amareno: unless the sender ip address is blacklisted or you violate DMARC or other mechanisms gmail will probably accept your e-mail.
[23:14] <kzet> I watch Twitch a lot, and I love Firefox. And it seems like Firefox can't utilize Twitch's HTML5 player. Is there a fix for this?
[23:14] <nathdwek> kzet what makes you say that?
[23:14] <kzet> nathdwek: just going to a stream and there's no HTML5 option for me.
[23:14] <wendico> Thank you k1l, finally android studio running with no errors. Thank you all again.
[23:14] <nathdwek> recent versions of firefox handle it perfectly.
[23:15] <kzet> nathdwek: really?
[23:15] <Amareno> tomreyn: is this hard to do in postfix?
[23:15] <nathdwek> Either you have addons chiming in, or you're stuck with an old firefox on an eol version of ubuntu
[23:15] <tomreyn> Amareno: what exactly?
[23:15] <kzet> nathdwek: I'm guessing old Firefox. Thanks! :)
[23:15] <Amareno> set up the port from 25 to 587
[23:15] <nathdwek> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:15] <nathdwek> kzet:
[23:16] <myij> hello everyone, my virtual machine is not recognizing the usb device. I tried redirect option in the menu, but it gives error; 'could not redirect..failed to fork (cannot allocate memory)..what can I do?
[23:16] <Amareno> tomreyn: to change smtp from 25 to 587
[23:17] <nathdwek> ppf: stupid question, but chromium doesn't compile for arm-linux-gnueabi?
[23:18] <ppf> chromium does, but you need a drm plugin
[23:18] <ppf> and that's not part of chromium
[23:18] <nathdwek> aaaaaah
[23:18] <Jonii> Umm... What?
[23:18] <nathdwek> fsf people
[23:18] <Jonii> I booted into Ubuntu after repairing the disk
[23:18] <Jonii> Random software has stopped working
[23:18] <nathdwek> jesus the browser scene is such a mess
[23:19] <Bray90820> Can anyone tell me where skins are installed to so I can manually edit one
[23:19] <Jonii> And there are minor differences in settings
[23:19] <Jonii> How did this happen?
[23:20] <Jonii> I lost sound for example :(
[23:20] <k1l> Jonii: file corruption? due to hardware issues?
[23:21] <tomreyn> Amareno: that's very easy really. it doesn't change how you send mail, though, so you seem to be mixing things up.
[23:21] <Jonii> Really difficult to say. Sounds worked in Lubuntu
[23:21] <Jonii> So I think something was corrupted
[23:21] <vfw> Jonii: Maybe kernel modules missing
[23:21] <kzet> nathdwek: Yup! You were right, it works perfectly with the new Firefox. Thanks. :)
[23:21] <nathdwek> good on you:
[23:21] <nathdwek> !
[23:22] <nathdwek> did you forget to update your distro for the last 2 years or sometg?
[23:22] <vfw> nathdwek: it's gotten to be almost a daily process
[23:23] <nathdwek> ppf: just for my info, does vlc show limitations in transcodign ability for reasonably big mkvs on pi? (3 if you have it)
[23:23] <Amareno> tomreyn: obviously... im new to this :(
[23:23] <nathdwek> vfw: version numbers have been climbing a lot lately, but html5 support has been in for a long time now
[23:24] <tomreyn> Amareno: so read up more on how to setup a basic mail server. there are different types of mail servers / mail server configurations, maybe start with that and get an idea of what you want / need.
[23:24] <nathdwek> like 5k x264
[23:25] <dork> people (browsers) take special care with DRM specific content, i'm not surprised that it isn't supported in chromium
[23:26] <dork> that's why they have chromium and chrome.
[23:26] <myij> hello everyone, my virtual machine is not recognizing the usb device. I tried redirect option in the menu, but it gives error; 'could not redirect..failed to fork (cannot allocate memory)..what can I do?
[23:26] <nathdwek> yeah but chrome has been particularly douchey lately dork
[23:26] <nathdwek> for example packing the flashplayer.so into chrome 3months ago was really bush league
[23:26] <dork> myij: file descriptors/ulimit?
[23:27] <dork> myij: need more info
[23:27] <dork> nathdwek: did that happen?
[23:27] <nathdwek> yes
[23:27] <nathdwek> I was using pepperflash w/ firefox
[23:28] <dork> i'd rather not have to install restricted shit to see flash on chrome though
[23:28] <dork> it's probably come to the point where flash is dying a slow death where adobe doesn't care if it's bundled
[23:28] <dork> which is a good thing
[23:28] <dork> it means we're progressing
[23:28] <nathdwek> which relies on a PP2P API or some shit I don't understand, to exploit libflashplayer.so which came with chrome
[23:28] <dork> yeah for shit that's still flash based
[23:28] <nathdwek> then chrome decided to make its binary monolithic
[23:28] <kk4ewt> nathdwek, please watch the language
[23:28] <dork> yeah nathdwek, stop swearing
[23:29] <nathdwek> wait where did I swear?
[23:29] <dork> you didn't, kk4ewt is just an idiot
[23:29] <nathdwek> oh yeah a "sh*t" slipped by
[23:29] <nathdwek> lol I'll watch it
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> it was the s-word
[23:29] <dork> oh i thought he actually meant me
 yeah for shit that's still flash based
[23:30] <Jonii> A guide suggested command of the type "sudo aptitude --purge reinstall"
[23:30] <kk4ewt> i did
[23:30] <Jonii> Can that be made apt-friendly?
[23:30] <dork> kk4ewt: learn how to address people, you shitbird.
[23:30] <Jonii> like, aptitude isn't working for me, I think?
[23:30] <chu> dork: Please stop.
[23:30] <dork> will do.
[23:30] <Jonii> The command I'm supposed to use is apt, I think
[23:30] <Jonii> instead of aptitude. But passing the exact same parameters to it fails me
[23:31] <Jonii> It doesn't know --reinstall
[23:31] <nathdwek> >2016
[23:31] <nathdwek> still having people struggle with aptitude vs apt-get and then adding apt
[23:31] <nathdwek> what has this world come to
[23:31] <dork> a world of choices
[23:32] <nathdwek> we should just wipe every ubuntuforum.advice.ru dating pre 14.04
[23:32] <Jonii> Are you gonna help? :(
[23:32] <dork> Trump's on that mission right now
[23:32] <nathdwek> unfortunately not I don't think :'
[23:32] <nathdwek> (
[23:33] <OerHeks> how helpfull, nathdwek
[23:33] <nathdwek> I'm taking the constructive approach of shutting up when I don't know
[23:33] <nathdwek> unlike some other people on irc
[23:33] <dork> Jonii: apt-get understands --reinstall
[23:33] <SemiNus> hi
[23:33] <nathdwek> I just...don't know all the intricacies of apt
[23:33] <SemiNus> I am just trying to install seeddms (a very recommendable cool program) in PHP
[23:33] <dork> Jonii: just trying to reinstall a package?
[23:34] <SemiNus> the installation routine tells me to install pdo mysqli
[23:34] <dork> SemiNus: it can't be that cool if it's in php
[23:34] <SemiNus> but as far as I can see, it's installed
[23:34] <nathdwek> facebook is php
[23:34] <dork> facebook is garbage
[23:34] <nathdwek> point taken
[23:34] <SemiNus> what else could this missing "pdo mysqli" mean?
[23:34] <dork> and it's hardly php
[23:34] <dork> oh i guess not
[23:34] <SemiNus> the ##php channel did not answer, so I figured to as in the irc channel of my operating system
[23:34] <nathdwek> yeah it is typechecked and transpiled
[23:35] <SemiNus> to as = to ask
[23:35] <kk4ewt> SemiNus,  pdo mysql
[23:35] <dork> SemiNus: dpkg -l | grep mysql
[23:35] <k1l> SemiNus: can you show the output on paste.ubuntu.com and link it here?
[23:35] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/r37m/raw
[23:36] <Jonii> okay, so purging and then trying to reinstall doesn't work
[23:36] <Jonii> I ended up removing pretty much all programs on my computer as a result
[23:36] <SemiNus> does it have to be paste.ubuntu.com or is the above link okay?
[23:36] <dork> Jonii: i'm sorry but can you recap on the issue?
[23:36] <k1l> SemiNus: thats ok
[23:37] <Jonii> dork, I needed to purge/reinstall stuff
[23:37] <Jonii> I had command which was supposed to do that neatly so that everything would be just factory reseted
[23:37] <Jonii> But that command was no longer supported, so I divided it into purge -> reinstall
[23:37] <SemiNus> I just got a tip in the ##php channel that debian based distros might need me to take action in terms of doing something with "phpenmod"
[23:37] <Jonii> But that didn't work out, since because of dependencies, all programs were removed
[23:38] <nacc> SemiNus: you're also not using the ubuntu packages, so it gets harder to help
[23:38] <dork> SemiNus: if it isn't enabled then yes but you can easily determine that by running a php test page
[23:38] <SemiNus> nacc, what else am I using? I am on a Ubuntu machine
[23:38] <nacc> SemiNus: you are using ondrej's PPA.
[23:38] <SemiNus> omg true!! I really did that, a long time ago
[23:39] <SemiNus> no idea why I did that
[23:39] <nacc> SemiNus: presumably you wanted PHP5 support
[23:39] <SemiNus> sorry nacc I totally forgot about this
[23:39] <nathdwek> That was a cool interaction
[23:39] <nathdwek> you guys know each other or sometg?
[23:39] <myij> hello everyone, my virtual machine is not recognizing the usb device. I tried redirect option in the menu, but it gives error; 'could not redirect..failed to fork (cannot allocate memory)..what can I do?
[23:40] <nacc> SemiNus: iirc, the Ubuntu packages phenmod by default. However there is no pdo_mysqli, only pdo_mysql
[23:40] <SemiNus> nathdwek, do you mean nacc and me?  nah, we just met here :)
[23:40] <nathdwek> yeah ok
[23:40] <nacc> SemiNus: so I'd need to see the exact error and why it's reporting it to give any better advice
[23:40] <nathdwek> funny that the one knew the the other'ssetup better than himself
[23:41] <SemiNus> nacc, https://filebin.net/mhdr5uwtt2cxzupf/seeddms_error.png
[23:41] <Lavinho> good night
[23:42] <Lavinho> how to install linux on  lenovo ideapad 100s
[23:42] <Lavinho> ???
[23:43] <SemiNus> Lavinho, do you have a cd drive?
[23:43] <nathdwek> it seems to be a regular intel laptop so you can use any generic method
[23:43] <Lavinho> yes
[23:43] <blueking> anyone know  how to make bd iso file from BD files  ?
[23:43] <frostythesnowman> hi, i'm getting the following a "No such file or directory" error when running this command as root "su -s "/bin/bash" -c "echo $HOME >/path/to/log/file 2>&1 &" username
[23:44] <nathdwek> any reason you mentioned the model so explicitly? It even seems to have intel graphics, so you won't have gpu driver support issues, which is always a plus
[23:44] <SemiNus> Lavinho, then just download the installation media and burn it to a CD / DVD
[23:44] <SemiNus> Lavinho, then start from the optical drive
[23:44] <Lavinho> ok
[23:44] <frostythesnowman> does anoyne know why i'd be getting such an error? the file doesn't exist, and the directory i'm trying to write to is owned by "username"
[23:44] <Lavinho> thank's
[23:44] <minimec> myij: I you use Virtualbox on a ubuntu base, then ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[23:44] <nacc> frostythesnowman: why the trailing "username" ?
[23:44] <nathdwek> if you have issues getting into bios, it is usually del f12 or f10
[23:44] <nathdwek> lenovo sometimes used ins also
[23:44] <wedgie> frostythesnowman: i'm guessing /path/to/log/file doesn't exist. You should be replacing that with your actual path
[23:44] <nathdwek> just pound away
[23:45] <frostythesnowman> nacc: i'd like to run it as that user
[23:45] <SemiNus> nacc, is there any way to entirely purge ondrej's PPA ?
[23:45] <nacc> frostythesnowman: does /path/to/log exist?
[23:45] <frostythesnowman> wedgie: i've tried creating the file, but it still gives me the same error; and i just subbed that in; the actual command has the actual absolute path
[23:45] <nacc> !ppa-purge | SemiNus
[23:45] <minimec> Jonii: So now you have a graphical desktop, but most of the apps are gone? 'sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop' should reinstall the default ubuntu package selection after a fresh installation.
[23:45] <frostythesnowman> ya it does
[23:46] <frostythesnowman> i've tried it after deleting the file also though, and it gives me the same error
[23:46] <wedgie> frostythesnowman: how about: sudo -u username bash -c 'echo...'
[23:47] <SemiNus> nacc, what <repository-name>/<subdirectory> ?
[23:47] <SemiNus> where can I find that out?
[23:48] <frostythesnowman> wedgie: so, my problem is i'm running this command in the root shell but i want to run it as another user.  i.e. sudo wouldn't work
[23:48] <nacc> SemiNus: same way as you added it? I don't have it handy, but it's deducible from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/...
[23:48] <wedgie> frostythesnowman: why wouldn't sudo work?
[23:49] <frostythesnowman> wedgie: o sry, i spoke too soon! i thought sudo only works outside of root.  however, i still get the same error w/ that command also
[23:49] <minimec> SemiNus: probably 'sudo ppa-purge ondrej/php' --> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php
[23:49] <wedgie> frostythesnowman: sudo -u username bash -c 'echo $HOME > /path/to/log/file'    That's how i'd do it
[23:49] <frostythesnowman> bash: /path/to/log/file: No such file or directory
[23:49] <nacc> frostythesnowman: in any case, the command works fine for me -- note that it will print root's home, though
[23:50] <SemiNus> thank you minimec
[23:50] <SemiNus> thank you nacc
[23:50] <Lavinho> seminus
[23:50] <Lavinho> ´no
[23:50] <wedgie> frostythesnowman: does the user you're running as have permission to access that file/directory?
[23:50] <nathdwek> frostythesnowman: glancing at sudo man page, you should be using ~username instead I think
[23:50] <nacc> frostythesnowman: thepermissions are probably bad along the path
[23:50] <nacc> frostythesnowman: in that the user you are running as can't cd to some directory (or ls it)
[23:50] <nathdwek> never heard of this notation, til
[23:51] <wedgie> $HOME is typically better that ~ expansions in scripts because it works inside of quotes
[23:52] <wedgie> but in this case ~username will get you what you want
[23:52] <frostythesnowman> testing now
[23:52] <nathdwek> wedgie, yeah but as nacc pointed out, the $HOME version will print the original $HOME
[23:52] <Jonii> minimec: I restarted computer before that
[23:53] <Jonii> minimec: so I end up in initramfs upon start
[23:53] <Jonii> so I think the computer is now bricked
[23:53] <wedgie> nathdwek: indeed. Or you can use -H with sudo to get the right home dir
[23:54] <gaghiel> hello all :)
[23:54] <gaghiel> quick one
[23:54] <nathdwek> frostythesnowman: I guess that's not all you want to do, but if it is actually the acse, you can even do echo ~username >/path/to/file, less variables at play that way
[23:54] <minimec> Jonii: Wow... So you removed too much packages. If you have a install USB stick or DVD, you can repair the installation or restart ftom 0.
[23:54] <Jonii> minimec, well I have lubuntu USB, if that helps
[23:55] <Jonii> I don't have the particular USB used to install my current system
[23:55] <gaghiel> problem: so my home dir is encrypted and I'm trying to share a usb device from /media/username/mountpoint. I modified samba to share that partition mapping the guest account to my username (needed guest access). the share worked fine, but for some reason my home directory was unmounted :(
[23:55] <Jonii> Well, past system at this point
[23:55] <gaghiel> any ideas?
[23:56] <SemiNus> nacc, minimec https://dpaste.de/Xsi2/raw
[23:56] <minimec> Jonii: That should do. I will probably install a basic lxde environment. But afterwards you can get your ubuntu desktop with 'sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop'.
[23:56] <smurfendrek123> hey this is the output of crontab -l https://bpaste.net/show/a6f06da39001 and it doesn't work
[23:57] <Jonii> I'll try that... Tomorrow. I've now bricked my computer bad enough
[23:57] <frostythesnowman> dohhhhh, thank you all.  it was indeed a permissions error that was locking me out
[23:57] <frostythesnowman> i thought i checked that already but i was looking at another file
[23:58] <wedgie> smurfendrek123: systemctl is in /usr/bin.  Either use absolute path when referring to it, or set the PATH accordingly at the top
[23:58] <wedgie> err, systemctl is in /bin
[23:59] <smurfendrek123> wedgie, i did set the path at the top
[23:59] <minimec> SemiNus: Besides the fact that you have a problem with the google-chrome browser, it looks that there are no packages available from the ondrej/php PPA for xenial. Is this a system you upgraded?
[23:59] <smurfendrek123> with PATH=/usr/bin
[23:59] <wedgie> smurfendrek123: to the wrong place.
[23:59] <smurfendrek123> i did which systemctl and thats where it says it is
[23:59] <wedgie> bash: /usr/bin/systemctl: No such file or directory
[23:59] <smurfendrek123> yea but im on fedora lol
[23:59] <smurfendrek123> sorry
[23:59] <wedgie> smurfendrek123: then you're in the wrong channel