| Unit193 | bluesabre: See -devel for the Qt thing. The plugin and the env var were parts of it, but the old var clashes with the new one. >_< | 10:06 |
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| Unit193 | (Sum up: Install qt5-style-plugins unset QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk and set QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2) | 10:13 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, any idea how that might affect qt < 5 ? | 11:18 |
| Unit193 | Well the plugin is only for 5... Time to do some tests in a VM I guess (keeping in mind ~/.config/Trolltech.conf) | 11:24 |
| Unit193 | I think the troll file is for 4. | 11:24 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: I just confirmed everything I said. | 11:26 |
| bluesabre | gotcha | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, so, we drop the existing var and replace with the new one, keep Trolltech, and install qt5-style-plugins | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, thanks for looking into this :) | 11:28 |
| Unit193 | That's where it gets fun: If we install qt5-style-plugins we install Qt5, if *we* don't do anything about qt5-style-plugins the user gets ugly Qt5 if the user installs anything. | 11:28 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: And sure thing. | 11:29 |
| knome | so there's no way to get the vars without installing? sigh. | 11:29 |
| knome | *et | 11:29 |
| knome | *set | 11:29 |
| knome | ma | 11:29 |
| knome | *man! | 11:29 |
| Unit193 | knome: We can set them, they'll do nothing. | 11:29 |
| knome | even if the user installs something? | 11:29 |
| Unit193 | If the user installs qt5-style-plugins he's set. | 11:31 |
| knome | right | 11:31 |
| knome | why wouldn't they? it's not a dep of qt5? | 11:31 |
| Unit193 | Things depending on qt5-style-plugins: ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop | 11:32 |
| knome | right, so they install qt5? | 11:32 |
| Unit193 | MATE? So it'd seem. | 11:32 |
| knome | meh | 11:33 |
| knome | oki | 11:33 |
| knome | so from my POV, i think the best thing to do is to set the var and tell people to install the qt5-style-plugins package if they use qt5 | 11:33 |
| knome | or maybe try to get it as a recommend of qt5 | 11:33 |
| Unit193 | That last one would be pretty cool, but doubt we'd have such luck. I agree with the telling users thing, release notes that nobody reads and blog post might be nice. | 11:35 |
| bluesabre | the dep chain for that package kinda sucks http://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/qt5-style-plugins :( | 11:43 |
| knome | i'm poking my friendly kde friend, so let's see.. | 11:43 |
| bluesabre | ah, "gde"? | 11:44 |
| knome | ;) | 11:44 |
| Unit193 | Mirv! | 11:47 |
| knome | actually nope :P | 11:48 |
| knome | don't even know how much he is involved with qt | 11:48 |
| knome | hmm, seems like he is | 11:48 |
| Unit193 | I had to ask one of the Qt people because our QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk was messing with the whole setup and I never knew. :( | 11:49 |
| Unit193 | I would have had it the first time I kind of looked into it had it not been for that. | 11:49 |
| knome | maybe i can ask him as well if i don't get anywhere with this first person | 11:49 |
| flocculant | morning | 12:20 |
| knome | 'lo | 12:20 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: is mousepad actually supposed to do something if you drag a tab 'outside' ? that is more than crash :p | 12:21 |
| knome | i guess either more or less than a crash :P | 12:21 |
| flocculant | :) | 12:22 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, no, that doesn't seem right, I'd expect anything to die if you ripped out more than 50% of it | 12:22 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:22 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: looking at xfce 13336 | 12:22 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 13336 in General "Program crash when dropping tab on Desktop" [Critical,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13336 | 12:22 |
| bluesabre | Yup, it definitely crashes | 12:23 |
| bluesabre | that's no good | 12:23 |
| flocculant | oh I know - I have the same here :p | 12:23 |
| flocculant | though I seem to get SIGABRT not SIGSEV | 12:24 |
| bluesabre | Easy solution is to disable tab removal | 12:25 |
| flocculant | indeed | 12:25 |
| flocculant | well easy for you - I'd be using a hammer and nails :p | 12:26 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:26 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I guess I was really meaning is dropping a tab something that would be expected ;) | 12:27 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, ah | 12:27 |
| bluesabre | yes, that's a standard feature | 12:27 |
| * flocculant waits for knome's comment | 12:27 | |
| bluesabre | dragging a tab out should put it into a new mousepad window | 12:27 |
| flocculant | ok - so do you want the bit of backtrace I managed to get on that bug report? and is strace any use? | 12:28 |
| bluesabre | Also crashes moving between two open mousepad windows | 12:28 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, sure, that might help | 12:29 |
| flocculant | okey doke | 12:29 |
| bluesabre | I'm terrible at reviewing traces, I look for each of the functions and try to find them in the code | 12:29 |
| flocculant | :) | 12:29 |
| bluesabre | sometimes it works | 12:29 |
| bluesabre | and sometimes its GTK internal and I have no idea whats going on | 12:29 |
| flocculant | seems I can never actually get gdb to finish properly here ... | 12:30 |
| bluesabre | its an ugly crash | 12:33 |
| bluesabre | running it in valgrind dumps so much | 12:33 |
| flocculant | ok - added comment and strace | 12:35 |
| flocculant | I'm obviously doing some basic wrong with gdb - can start an app - then when it crashes or something - gdb just sits there not letting me do anything but quit/detach so never know if it would have echoed more :P | 12:37 |
| bluesabre | never learned how to gdb properly | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | bbiab | 12:39 |
| Unit193 | 'bt' | 12:39 |
| flocculant | Unit193: \o/ thanks :) | 12:40 |
| Unit193 | Sure thing. | 12:43 |
| Unit193 | Without debugging symbols, it has limited usefulness. | 12:58 |
| flocculant | right - and they come from where :) | 14:20 |
| knome | flocculant, comment about what again? | 15:02 |
| bluesabre | all the things | 15:21 |
| knome | :) | 15:22 |
| flocculant | heh | 15:24 |
| * knome comments like a gumby would... my brain huuurts | 15:25 | |
| knome | :) | 15:25 |
| flocculant | lol | 15:25 |
| knome | bbl, dinner time | 15:26 |
| slickymaster | https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/ubuntu-manual-tests/1662965/+merge/316737 ← here you go, flocculant | 16:56 |
| flocculant | thanks slickymaster | 17:21 |
| slickymaster | sure | 17:22 |
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| ochosi | new greybird release out btw | 23:08 |
| knome | hooray | 23:09 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Sweet, virii and all? :D | 23:14 |
| ochosi | virii? | 23:15 |
| ochosi | or are you really refering to viruses? (and even then i don't get it) | 23:16 |
| ochosi | urban dictionary to the rescue... | 23:17 |
| ochosi | "Refers to people from planet virus" | 23:17 |
| knome | o.O | 23:17 |
| knome | silly Unit193 | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | Yes, I am asking if you make sure to include viruses in the GTK theme. :PO | 23:18 |
| ochosi | i do, ofc. why would you ask that? | 23:27 |
| ochosi | :> | 23:27 |
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