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Unit193bluesabre: So did you do all the changes in x-d-s and update whisker? :--D00:07
bluesabreUnit193, not yet D-------------:00:07
* Unit193 waves.00:09
Unit193(FWIW, you can pretty much skip all other recent releases, I've already done something with 'em.  All but sensors and mount.)00:10
bluesabre:)00:36
flocculantbluesabre ochosi - ok so this is driving me nuts :p12:28
bluesabre?12:28
flocculantthunar 12:28
bluesabreuh oh12:28
flocculant*now* I'm seeing the reload issue again12:28
bluesabrewhich one is the reload issue?12:29
flocculantwhere a file that's been moved on still shows in the origin12:29
bluesabreah12:30
bluesabre:\12:30
bluesabrethat might be a gvfs thing12:30
bluesabreI saw that on nautilus this week12:30
flocculantoh good 12:30
flocculantnow of course after telling corsac and ochosi it crashed - it won't :p12:31
bluesabre:D12:32
* flocculant does something entirely different 12:32
flocculantmight install some other *buntu for 17.04 and test this with that file manager - ubuntu and nautilus sounds like the best plan :p12:33
flocculantthat was a moderately horrid experience - seems to be no way to select files in nautilus with a mouse window13:52
flocculantbluesabre: anyway - didn't manage to crash nautilus there13:52
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knomeflocculant, http://staging.xubuntu.org/tracker/17:23
knomeflocculant, this is PoC/betaish stage, but see how the timeline acknowledges that the done item has been closed 2 times17:24
knomeflocculant, also note task groups vs. blueprints - you can now have multiple overlapping17:24
knomethis has probably been more of a problem with community/website/marketing stuff, but things that really belong to more than one blueprint have been painful17:25
flocculantyea ack that point ^^17:25
flocculantmy issue is still an issue - real-time(as far as it goes) with where bugs are reported - so we would still be hitting lp api I guess17:26
flocculantand if we mvoe on one stage then upstream reporting where it's listed on lp17:27
knomeyes, but much less17:27
flocculanteg a lp bug with upstream link17:27
knomei think bugzilla has an API as well, so we should be able to work with that as well17:27
knomeand yes, now we can do dozens of cool things17:27
knomeone thing i was considering is that we might want to create tasks for "all bugs"17:28
knomeand then link the bugs into those tasks17:28
knomeso eg. "fix thunar" is the task17:28
knomeand then it could have 1-3 bugs linked to it17:28
knomeif we want17:28
knomeor then just one17:28
knomeor then we can just do what we always did17:28
knomeone feature i haven't been exposing much on the PoC yet is that we can now have a full description for each task ála wordpress articles17:29
knomeso the tasks are not just titles, they can have all kinds of extra data17:29
knomeand this comes without extra work too17:29
flocculantbeing able to multiple link bugs to a 'task' is good 17:31
knomeyes, i gathered this would be a good thing17:31
knomealso, one more thing17:31
knomeremember the bug targets are sometimes weird when you have a bug linked to multiple packages?17:31
knomewell, now we could allow you to select which package to show...17:31
flocculantthat would be a positive ;)17:37
knomeyep17:37
knomeall kinds of little things17:37
knomebut most importantly from my POV to be able to track a single task better - even if its title changed17:37
flocculantI will take some convincing - because most bp's I'm involved with have to talk to lp17:40
flocculantand I imagine docs too17:40
knomesure, i'll try to get some kind of testing stuff going soonish17:41
knomei'm not doing anything re: bugs quite yet17:41
knomebut since i can reuse most of the code, it should be quick17:41
flocculantand how about linking with the dev side of things?17:41
knomewhat do you mean with that?17:41
knomeyou mean linking with dev.xubuntu.org?17:41
flocculantwell - if we lose blueprints - how does all the LP stuff currently linking together - link outside? 17:42
knomehow does it need to?17:42
flocculantbugs > fixes for one I guess17:42
knomei mean, there's not much synergy we can from tracking stuff in blueprints at the moment anyway :(17:42
flocculantother than bugs and fixes 17:43
knomei'm not sure what that stuff is17:43
knomewe aren't using the LP milestones17:43
knomeso no loss there17:43
flocculantnot sure anyway - I will be keeping my powder dry for the moment :)17:43
knomehehe17:43
knomealso, one thing i forgot to mention which is fun17:44
knomewe can have multiple assignees per task17:44
* flocculant always has a match though ...17:44
knomei just don't know how we'll show that but...17:44
flocculantnot that you need telling that :p17:44
knomeand we can also add anything we want to the assignee17:44
knomedoesn't have to be LP team17:44
knomeor user17:44
flocculantright17:44
knomewhich is a slight advantage too17:44
flocculant:)17:46
flocculantalways happy to be involved as you know 17:46
knomeyep17:46
knomei'll need some testing once stuff is set up17:46
knomemostly the bugs17:46
Unit193thunar 1.6.10-6 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac) (Closes: #800723)17:46
flocculantjust not ever going to be someone you can rely on saying 'that's awesome' till I really mean it :D17:47
knomei'm still not sure if i want to handle that as i do now (via real cron jobs) or if i should do something else17:47
knomeprobably at least a button that says "reload all bug data"17:47
knomewhen you need that now17:47
flocculantpersonally I think that last would make more sense17:47
flocculantthen when 'person' needs real time - they can get it17:47
knomeyes, that AT LEAST17:48
knomebut the automatic side...17:48
knomemaybe i'll move more to a "poor man's cron" kind of thing17:48
flocculantcould be weekly at that point? 17:48
knomeeg. not have a real cron job, but some kind of timestamp in the db17:48
knomeso it only updates if somebody is actually looking17:48
knomeyeah, something like that17:48
flocculantas long as all know when it was last globally updated17:48
knomeyep17:48
knomethat's more than easy to achieve now17:48
knomewe can even allow per-bug updates17:49
knomeand show that date too17:49
knomeas that's again a less resource-requiring task than updating all bugs17:49
flocculantI tend to err on the side of not adding bugs because of what bp says tbh17:49
knomehmm?17:50
flocculantif berty reads bp and it says things we'll fix this cycle - why would they not expect them to be fixed17:50
knomeright17:50
flocculantshould just edit the 'words'17:50
knomewe can just change the description17:50
knome:)17:50
knomeyep17:50
flocculantyea :)17:50
knomeok, so17:50
knomegone for a while17:50
flocculantand the thunar issue would probably always be better linking upstream not xubuntu17:51
flocculantyea - same - sunday evening stuff - bbl17:51
knomehf17:51
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Unit193greybird-gtk-theme 3.22.1-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac)21:05
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bluesabreUnit193, nice!22:41

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