[06:07] <KamiRath> lightdm is using 15% of my 16GiB memory. Is this supposed to happen or memory leak? o.O
[06:12] <KamiRath> looks like this is a bug on Ubuntu 14.04LTS
[09:33] <xubuntu11w> i'm using xubuntu n rpi 2...i'm using a 16 gb memmory card...but in my pri it is showing only 4gb...how can i fix it?
[13:53] <xubuntu71d> at@pat-Ram8GBHDD500gb:~$ sudo find / -name stdlib.h /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/bits/stdlib.h /usr/include/stdlib.h /usr/include/c++/5/tr1/stdlib.h find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied pat@pat-Ram8GBHDD500gb:~$
[13:54] <xubuntu71d> When I run gcc to compile a file that require stdioh and stdlib.h , the stdlib.h is missing
[13:54] <xubuntu71d> Ran sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[14:47] <inkoqnito> Hello, i tried to install Xubuntu today but only got an black screen after the installer loaded. I read that i needed to add nomodeset in grub before loading so i did. I could install correctly but i couldnt start Xubuntu only got black screen even after adding nomodeset. I tested other distros to and got the same problem. Is there a way to fix this or am i forced to use windows 10 instead?
[14:52] <flocculant> inkoqnito: when you say other distros - do you mean other options in the *buntu family - or really other distros?
[14:52] <flocculant> and what graphics does the system have?
[14:55] <inkoqnito> i mean other distros like for example Solus
[14:55] <inkoqnito> I got an geforce GTX 1060
[14:56] <flocculant> ok - just wanted to make sure it wasn't just *buntu :)
[14:58] <inkoqnito> Nope=) But it really annoys me. Do you know if there is a problem with nvidias latest cards?
[14:58] <flocculant> inkoqnito: so the nvidia driver for that (375) is only available normally in zesty atm - might be worth checking out the latest daily if you want ( http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ )
[15:00] <inkoqnito> But shouldnt xubuntu be able to boot without the correct driver? i never had these kind of problems before and have had Arch installed before
[15:00] <flocculant> then this ppa would allow that driver for earlier versions of *buntu > https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:01] <flocculant> inkoqnito: I guess it depends on support from nouveau - never too sure of nomodeset (have my own problems with that and grub atm on zesty)
[15:01] <flocculant> inkoqnito: what version of xubuntu are you trying currently?
[15:02] <flocculant> and when it blackscreens - can you get to vt1 or something - then you can add the ppa there - if not maybe from recovery mode and root shell
[15:04] <inkoqnito> 16.10 should i maybe try 16.04?
[15:05] <inkoqnito> i get nothing
[15:06] <inkoqnito> its just black and when i got through and have installed xubuntu and had to use nomodeset my screen seemd to get no signal it only said that the best resolution would be 1920x1080 but it didnt actually turn on
[15:07] <flocculant> 16.04 would just be older ...
[15:10] <flocculant> inkoqnito: try booting to recovery - then root shell - then add the ppa ^^ - then install the 3675 driver and reboot - see what that gives you, that's what I would be doing if I had newish graphics
[15:13] <inkoqnito> Okey thanks i will try that=)
[15:14] <flocculant> excuse the fat fingers above - I obviously meant 375 not 3675 :)
[15:17] <flocculant> inkoqnito: in recovery mode - you could try grepping logs for 'nouveau unknown chipset'
[15:18] <flocculant> at least with 16.04 that card was an issue > http://askubuntu.com/questions/816329/how-to-boot-using-the-live-usb-with-nvidia-gtx-1060
[15:35] <inkoqnito> Yes i can see that, the strange thing is just that i have had ubuntu and arch installed earlier with no problems.
[15:38] <flocculant> inkoqnito: so what ubuntu did you have? because at that level xubuntu shouldn't be much different
[15:41] <inkoqnito> That time it was also 16.10 it was in november last year
[15:42] <flocculant> mmm - well should have been oj with xubuntu then
[15:44] <flocculant> inkoqnito: if you've time and interest I'd be happy to see what you found with 'latest'
[15:44] <inkoqnito> exactly, but when installing xubuntu do you know what kind of drivers it installs? Is the the nouveau drivers?
[15:44]  * flocculant puts on xubuntu team hat for that :)
[15:50] <inkoqnito> will try the latest and see if that make any difference
[15:51] <flocculant> inkoqnito: current is as recent as you can get without us rebuilding
[15:52] <inkoqnito> okey, and this is not a problem many others have?
[15:56] <flocculant> not seen it mentioned
[16:37] <inkoqnito> Flocculant: Hello, i finally got it to work.
[16:37] <flocculant> hi
[16:37] <inkoqnito> hi
[16:38] <flocculant> inkoqnito: how did it work for you?
[16:38] <inkoqnito> i dont now why it didnt work before but now i just just nomodeset so i could start xubuntu installed the latest propetary driver and restarted and it now booted coorekt:)
[16:38] <inkoqnito> correct*
[16:38] <inkoqnito> used*
[16:40] <flocculant> I found nomodeset only working from recovery mode, or editing kernel line at grub
[16:40] <flocculant> but if you're working then \o/
[16:40] <inkoqnito> yay:d
[16:40] <inkoqnito> :D
[16:40] <flocculant> did you need the ppa?
[16:41] <inkoqnito> No i used nomodeset to install, and when the first time i started xubuntu after i installed the propetary driver it just worked=) Will do some more restarts and tests but so far all good=)
[16:44] <flocculant> inkoqnito: ok cool :)
[16:45] <flocculant> thanks for coming back and telling :D
[16:47] <inkoqnito> No problem was so glad it finally worked=) Just one question, should i be worried to use 17.04? I am tinking of bugs etc?
[16:49] <flocculant> inkoqnito: ok so atm it is pretty stable - biggest issue is with lightdm/locking
[16:49] <inkoqnito> whats the issue?
[16:50] <flocculant> inkoqnito: you can purge lightlocker and install gnome-screensaver and you'll be able to come back from lock
[16:50] <flocculant> it locks big time - doesn't let you unlock :)
[16:51] <flocculant> inkoqnito: bug 1656399
[16:52] <flocculant> inkoqnito: oh - so you've managed to get working with 17.04 ?
[16:53] <flocculant> just waking up here mid-afternoon ...
[16:54] <inkoqnito> Yes, i got 17.04 working and was a little conserned about using it or if i should try again with 16.10=)
[16:55] <flocculant> inkoqnito: ok - then I would assume black screen is about nouveau not being up to date to see it
[16:56] <flocculant> as I said pretty stable other than lock bug - which doesn't just affect us
[16:57] <flocculant> best other shot would be 16.04 + that ppa (likely to be supported for longer), then 16.10 +ppa (which would get 9 months from October 2017) - support for
[16:57] <flocculant> bah
[16:58] <flocculant> 17.04 doesn't start till Final Beta (March/April 2017)
[16:58] <flocculant> so you'd be looking at upgrading 17.04 > 17.10 > 18.04 to get to next LTS
[16:59] <flocculant> if long term support is an issue - I would try 16.04 plus that ppa
[16:59] <flocculant> AFTER 16.04.2 is released next week
[16:59] <flocculant> hope that all helps to make a decision :)
[17:00] <inkoqnito> i am not really so interested in LTS just thought that 17.04 is still in beta isnt it? And was just thinking of using the last release 16.10 or this beta 17.04=)
[17:01] <flocculant> well - we've not reached beta yet :D
[17:02] <flocculant> though I use 'dev' anyway - and have been using '17.04' since the day after 16.10 released
[17:03] <inkoqnito> aha:P And you havent had to much problems=)?
[17:04] <flocculant> nope - get odd things with this install - but from default not so much - just the lock thing
[17:04] <flocculant> inkoqnito: this install was a 16.04 (during dev) to 16.10 (during dev) > 17.04
[17:05] <flocculant> so I get odd things :D
[17:06] <flocculant> inkoqnito: bear in mind you can't officially use this support channel till Final Beta - so you'd be kind of expected to report bugs and talk to people in either ubuntu+1 (I watch there) or #x-devel
[17:07] <flocculant> and we are always happy to see people testing dev and asking things
[17:10] <inkoqnito> Okey thats fine=) I like to be on the edge:)
[17:10] <flocculant> :)
[18:22] <lerner> i installed xubuntu on  new notebook. In the old installation there was a task bar on the bottom of the screen. it would hide after 2 seconds. I want that in the new notebook as well.
[18:22] <lerner> where do I find it?
[18:26] <flocculant> lerner: settings - panel - xfpanel switch - pretty sure on of the presets is that old setup
[18:37] <lerner> even when this bottom panel is hidden i can see a bit of it. Cant I hideit all?
[18:39] <flocculant> lerner: I expect so - I used to set it to not hide - check panel settings
[18:40] <flocculant> oh - read the statement properly flocculant ...
[18:40] <flocculant> just tried here - I see none of it when it's hidden
[18:41] <lerner> this is a new installation with a backup copy from an old notebook
[18:41] <flocculant> lerner: not sure what's going on for you - hides completely here
[18:42] <lerner> permissions issue not a probable cause...
[18:42] <flocculant> shouldn't be so
[18:43] <lerner> another thing is> all my icons of my fas applications are gone and whisker shows just a standard brand new
[18:43] <lerner> how do I recover all my fav icons?
[18:44] <lerner> fav*
[20:14] <flea4558> I can't get wireless card to work.  I can see it, but after I enter password it doesn't conntect.
[21:57] <lerner> orage is in englush, as the rest of my notebook, but the days of the week are in german and show days before month, but I want them in english and month before day.
[21:57] <lerner> why does this happen and how do I fix it?
[22:15] <nicklas> Running ubuntu mate, but hoping for help anyway :-)
[22:15] <nicklas> Hello. Had to reinstall, cause when I tried to install nvidia via the ubuntu mate welcome/additional drivers, it did'nt finish all the way. The progress bar stopped right before the end. I rebooted, and gui wouldn't load, just had a blocks test text and a underline blinking randomly on black screen after booting. Is it safe to just try again, or should I do something else?
[22:16] <nicklas> And, do you think this will work better in xubuntu? I can run xubuntu too
[22:17] <nicklas> I've never had problems installing drivers in regular ubuntu or xubuntu