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| zeta | Does ubuntu server need as much swap as there are ram ? (it is the default!) Thinking of resizing the swap from 32 GB (on a 40 GB SSD) because I'm running out of disk space on root | 07:38 |
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| sarnold | zeta: 1 or 2 gigs would be best | 07:39 |
| sarnold | if you need more swap than that then there's something wrong with the amount of hardware you're using for the job :) | 07:40 |
| JanC | or just use swap files instead | 07:43 |
| sarnold | also fine choice | 07:44 |
| sarnold | the defaults are terrible though, no two ways around that | 07:44 |
| JanC | the defaults are so that you can suspend, I guess, but that's probably less useful for most servers... | 07:45 |
| zeta | wanted to double check because of the default | 07:47 |
| zeta | there might be use cases for hibernation, but I'm not using it | 07:48 |
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| skylite | if I do file -i mytextfile I get charset=iso-8859-1 but inside the file the characters are UTF-8 encoded. How is that possible? | 09:57 |
| nea1 | hi, I have a Cloud Image based server, where I configured a bridge (br-mgmt) and after rebooting I haven't found a single error in the logs, but br-mgmt is down - `systemctl restart networking` solves the Problem, anyone with an idea what could be wrong? | 10:15 |
| frickler | coreycb: jamespage: could you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/murano/+bug/1659270 please? zigo has fixed it upstream, should only need a sync | 11:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1659270 in murano (Ubuntu) "Startup of murano-cfapi is broken" [Undecided,New] | 11:07 |
| xnox | cpaelzer, whoop whoop =) new qemu | 11:44 |
| cpaelzer | yep xnox | 11:56 |
| cpaelzer | it was actually good for 2 weeks, but one of the dependent dep8 failed due to OOM | 11:56 |
| cpaelzer | thanks to apw this got a test on a bigger machine and migrated now | 11:56 |
| cpaelzer | apw: btw - is there any flag that coreycb / zul could add to d/t/* mark this test to need more ressources ? | 11:57 |
| apw | cpaelzer, nope, this is a per package hint server side | 11:58 |
| cpaelzer | apw: is the hint you added persistent now ? | 12:00 |
| apw | cpaelzer, yes | 12:04 |
| zul | frickler:its been fixed in zesty | 12:06 |
| frickler | zul: looks like it at least would need another sync into ocata UCA, then. getting a fix for Newton, which we are currently deploying, would be even better | 12:26 |
| zul | frickler: yeah i might add it to the next SRU cycle thats probably going to happen this week | 12:27 |
| coreycb | cpaelzer, apw: thanks for the hint update | 12:45 |
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| BlackDex | hello, i'm trying to fix my own ipv6 router/tunnel/gateway | 13:22 |
| BlackDex | i have a server which has an ipv6 subnet | 13:23 |
| BlackDex | on that server i created a inet tunnel mode sit | 13:24 |
| BlackDex | i created a v4tunnel on the client side | 13:24 |
| BlackDex | that all seems to go well | 13:24 |
| BlackDex | i can connect | 13:24 |
| BlackDex | i can even ping a local ipv6 on the server and get response | 13:25 |
| BlackDex | but if i want to ping to google on ipv6 for instance it stops | 13:25 |
| BlackDex | i allowed forwarding in the v6 iptables, if i add logging i see the request is getting there | 13:25 |
| BlackDex | also tcpdump shows this | 13:26 |
| BlackDex | but it is not passing the request, like it is not routering it or something | 13:26 |
| BlackDex | i also have enabled the net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding | 13:26 |
| BlackDex | so what am i missing? | 13:26 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: can your permissions clean the non Ubuntu AppArmor, libvirt, and systemd tasks from bug 1594902 ? | 13:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1594902 in libvirt (Ubuntu) "Failed to upgrade to libvirt-bin 1.3.1-1ubuntu10.1 on Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1594902 | 13:44 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: I can set the upstream AppArmor task to Invalid. But I can't do anything with the other two. | 13:47 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: a workaround might be to change the project for those tasks to Ubuntu. Then you might be able to delete them :-) | 13:47 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: that was evil but it worked | 13:49 |
| cpaelzer | the log on this bug looks messy now | 13:50 |
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| cpaelzer | it all quickly was qemus fault, but then not :-) | 13:52 |
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| BrianBlaze420 | good morning | 14:50 |
| BrianBlaze420 | I am curious if there is a "fully updated" iso of older versions of ubuntu server | 14:50 |
| BrianBlaze420 | I am looking for ubuntu 8 LTS updated as much as it could be and am curious if such things exist? | 14:50 |
| BrianBlaze420 | upon further looking up it seems that Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS is the final version :) | 14:55 |
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| Pici | BrianBlaze420: it is, also 8.04 went fully EOL in 2013. | 14:58 |
| BrianBlaze420 | yeah I am aware just trying to update a server it 8 LTS so I need to make sure I can test :) | 14:59 |
| BrianBlaze420 | it is 8 LTS* | 14:59 |
| jamespage | coreycb, where are we with ocata b3/rc's? I'd like to flush things through before we to much closer to release daty | 15:00 |
| Ussat | I would not update from something that old | 15:02 |
| Ussat | I would clean install | 15:02 |
| cpaelzer | coreycb: FYI for bug 1641532 the Xenial and Yakkety fixes are now in the unapproved queue for SRU | 15:02 |
| ubottu | bug 1641532 in Ubuntu Cloud Archive liberty "machine-types trusty and utopic are not unique (depend on the qemu version)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1641532 | 15:02 |
| cpaelzer | coreycb: just FYI so you can coordinate UCA release of the change | 15:02 |
| coreycb | jamespage, they're not completely tested, but i agree | 15:03 |
| OerHeks | BrianBlaze420, there is no fully updated server iso, you * could * do the old-releases trick, just for testing | 15:03 |
| jamespage | coreycb, I'm sure mwhahaha would rather have visibility sooner than later | 15:04 |
| coreycb | jamespage, let me put some focus on that and come back to the charm stuff | 15:04 |
| OerHeks | BrianBlaze420, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades .. but i guess you waste your time | 15:04 |
| * jamespage looks at the reports | 15:04 | |
| BrianBlaze420 | yeah I know what I said didn't make sense but I could only find the original iso and not the later realeaes of it | 15:04 |
| BrianBlaze420 | I found the last release and will work with that :) | 15:05 |
| BrianBlaze420 | the idea is to update to the latest LTS :) | 15:05 |
| jamespage | coreycb, lest at least push to -proposed | 15:05 |
| OerHeks | BrianBlaze420, 8.04 > 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04 ... | 15:06 |
| drab | BrianBlaze420: I've tried things like that before and only had trouble, like a lot of it, to the point that I don't do it anymore, I just look for ways to reinstall, swap something in or whatnot | 15:06 |
| BrianBlaze420 | I am stubborn and so will try myself and see where it leads me. I appreciate the input :) | 15:07 |
| drab | sure thing, np | 15:07 |
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| OerHeks | BrianBlaze420, have fun :-D | 15:07 |
| coreycb | cpaelzer, ok sounds good. mind pinging me when they're in proposed and then i'll get the patch into liberty-proposed? | 15:12 |
| cpaelzer | coreycb: you should be subscribed to the bug, but I'm fine pinging | 15:13 |
| cpaelzer | coreycb: I'll run my full test matrix anyway then | 15:13 |
| coreycb | cpaelzer, yeah i think i am | 15:13 |
| cpaelzer | hope for good SRU review on that - it is complex enough to drive anybody mad | 15:13 |
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| zul | coreycb: so manila barfs with sqlite because its trying to rename a colum, fyi | 15:28 |
| coreycb | zul, is that an upstream bug? | 15:29 |
| zul | coreycb: yeah | 15:29 |
| coreycb | zul, ok got a bug #? | 15:29 |
| zul | coreycb: i switched the dep8 test to use mysql | 15:29 |
| zul | coreycb:not yet | 15:29 |
| coreycb | zul, ok | 15:30 |
| zul | coreycb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1664279 | 15:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1664279 in Manila "Traceback when configuring manila with sqlite." [Undecided,New] | 15:32 |
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| drab | another problem I'm getting with preseeding is if I'm trying to reinstall a box that had disks with raid on it | 16:05 |
| drab | it seems like mdadm will detect the raid and set the device up, at which point the installation fails because "resource is busy" | 16:05 |
| drab | I have to get onto another console, dd the MBR/kill the raid, and then reboot/re pxe and it works | 16:06 |
| drab | googling around it seems people have had a similar problem and are basically doing the same with a d-i early command, but that seems kinda nasty... | 16:07 |
| drab | does anybody know fo a better solution? | 16:07 |
| drab | this is basically a similar problem to the one I was asking the other day with the installer failing because there was no "root" partition defined, which is just a symtpom of not wiping the disk and repartition but trying to reuse what's there | 16:08 |
| patdk-wk | you can reuse what is there | 16:09 |
| patdk-wk | but you still have to label to the installer what partition is should be installed with what | 16:09 |
| patdk-wk | assign root, boot, swap, maybe home, var, usr, ... | 16:10 |
| drab | patdk-wk: that's the thing, I don't want, these disks were from another system. And in pretty much all the cases I have I don't care about reusing | 16:15 |
| drab | quite the opposite, I wish there was just a "nuke" option | 16:15 |
| drab | that stopped asking so many questions and just simply wiped and reinstalled everything completely disregarding what's there | 16:15 |
| patdk-wk | there is | 16:15 |
| drab | I knwo what you're talking about, doesn't work for me it seems, maybe I'm doing something wrong | 16:15 |
| drab | I think I know* | 16:16 |
| drab | d-i partman/confirm , partman/confirm_nooverwrite | 16:17 |
| drab | is that what you had in mind? | 16:17 |
| drab | also to make matters worse with preseeding it seems the ubiquity installer doesn't honor a whole bunch :(, but I guess that's not a ubuntu-server problem | 16:19 |
| zul | rbasak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aodh/+bug/1645772 | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1645772 in ironic (Ubuntu Yakkety) "[SRU] newton stable releases" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 16:37 |
| zul | coreycb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neutron/+bug/1664306 | 17:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1664306 in nova (Ubuntu Yakkety) "newton stable SRU releases" [Undecided,New] | 17:44 |
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| teward | powersj: ohai | 18:39 |
| powersj | teward: hi | 18:39 |
| teward | powersj: thanks again for your triage work on NGINX bugs, but when the error is 'nginx.conf missing' it's able to be considered Invalid, because that's not a package issue, usually a system-specific issue but not a bug and easy to work around | 18:40 |
| powersj | teward: ah that makes sense. Sorry I have a habit of moving to incomplete to let the user try to fix that and get back to us. | 18:41 |
| teward | powersj: no problem :) | 18:41 |
| powersj | Did you already fix that up? | 18:41 |
| teward | powersj: there's also a few other cases as well to point out | 18:42 |
| teward | "address in use" as "cannot bind to :80" is also an Invalid | 18:42 |
| teward | and I think a few others that *should* already be caught by the apport hooks I wrote | 18:42 |
| teward | probably gonna have to update them after the merge | 18:42 |
| teward | powersj: and yep I did | 18:42 |
| teward | and provided the workaround | 18:42 |
| powersj | ok, thanks for that list I'll add those to my notes | 18:42 |
| teward | powersj: no problem, hope you don't mind me poking | 18:43 |
| teward | :) | 18:43 |
| powersj | teward: please do :) appreciate it | 18:43 |
| teward | I should probably document NGINX-specific bug triage things on the wiki | 18:43 |
| teward | 'cause there's a few cases that are known to show up occasionally but aren't package issues | 18:43 |
| teward | (and especially show up on VPSes built from a premade KVM or OVZ image) | 18:43 |
| teward | powersj: far be it for me to tell the Canonical Server Team what to do, but... :P | 18:44 |
| powersj | haha | 18:44 |
| teward | i do appreciate the triage work though, it helps me quickly weed out the evil ones | 18:44 |
| teward | and then focus on actual bugs | 18:44 |
| teward | current focus: nginx merge from Debian | 18:44 |
| teward | now that the several hours of evil PIE-failure debugging is fixed heh | 18:45 |
| teward | but first, my midterm studying needs done. | 18:45 |
| powersj | :) good luck | 18:45 |
| teward | meh not really that hard | 18:46 |
| teward | just have to 'start over' like we did for 14.04 and build the delta from scratch again | 18:46 |
| teward | given the radical changes to the packaging it's easier to rebuild than merge | 18:46 |
| teward | the core issue was the fPIE/fPIC compile evils, but now that that's been fixed in Debian, yay less delta for me :P | 18:46 |
| teward | (but never an issue except for the merge heh) | 18:47 |
| teward | as for the midterm, blah | 18:47 |
| teward | it's art history, as long as I get a B I will be happy | 18:47 |
| sarnold | ruebens liked fat people, bosch was insane. lapis lazuli. and, uh, caravaggio | 18:49 |
| sarnold | how'd I do? | 18:49 |
| teward | *throws an Ubuntu 17.04 USB stick at sarnold* | 18:49 |
| teward | sarnold: of relevance, pending SRU, because HTTP/2 stuff/fixes, just so you're aware. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1663937 | 18:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1663937 in nginx (Ubuntu Yakkety) "[SRU] Please update nginx in Xenial and Yakkety to 1.10.3" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 18:50 |
| sarnold | teward: nice | 18:53 |
| teward | and i'm still working on the merge. | 19:06 |
| teward | after my midterm :p | 19:06 |
| nacc | jgrimm: i think my blueprint stuff is all in -proposed or -release now, fyi -- just working on getting it into -release as appropriate | 19:29 |
| jgrimm | nacc, nice! indeed the bp is quite green for the most part excepting for testcase failures (that are not related to the specific upload) | 19:30 |
| nacc | jgrimm: yep | 19:31 |
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| coreycb | jamespage, ocata-staging is ready to promote | 19:57 |
| coreycb | jamespage, one more charm update needed for cinder | 19:57 |
| teward | server team members: is there anywhere specific I can drop a Wiki page with certain special-cases for nginx triage that diverge from standard triage procedures? | 20:37 |
| teward | nginx bug triage* | 20:37 |
| teward | I know i told powersj here direct those two special cases, but... | 20:37 |
| nacc | teward: probably worth doing somewhere under the ServerTeam pages, but don't konw specifically where | 20:37 |
| nacc | jgrimm: powersj: --^ | 20:37 |
| dgarstang | I'm booting an Ubuntu AMI with 2 x 2Tb disks. Looks like cloud-init only formats them to 1Tb??? | 20:38 |
| powersj | hm so I do have a page that I keep for my use of responses and tips | 20:38 |
| powersj | teward: I added your notes to it, but gotta remember to look at it :P https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingServer | 20:39 |
| powersj | ideally we update the apport stuff to auto invalidate those | 20:39 |
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| jgrimm | nacc, powersj, teward: additionally feel free to add a nginx as a "Project of Interest" with its own page if you feel that's useful too. | 20:42 |
| nacc | jgrimm: good point! | 20:43 |
| jgrimm | its pretty free form as long as we don't go crazy with clutter / desire to keep updated & relevant | 20:43 |
| teward | jgrimm: where would i put that? just under the Server Team? Until we get a buttload of NGINX issues that deserve a whole page, I think shoving it into DebuggingServer will work. So I'll go poke there. Probably deserves its own page somewhere in the triage guide, or a link to that page heh | 20:49 |
| jgrimm | teward, off the main Ubuntu Server page there is a section for "Packages of Interest" to link their own pages. Just offering that up if there's enough useful info to put in its own page. | 20:50 |
| jgrimm | I'm fine with DebuggingServer | 20:50 |
| nacc | teward: and you can do a link with ancchro on the triage page, myabe? | 20:51 |
| dgarstang | I'm booting an Ubuntu AMI with 2 x 2Tb disks. Looks like cloud-init only formats them to 1Tb??? | 20:51 |
| powersj | fwiw I like the separate page idea as well + a link | 20:54 |
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| teward | jgrimm: I will probably write a page, at some point. | 20:56 |
| teward | nacc: I'm not awake, ancchro? | 20:56 |
| jgrimm | teward, sounds good | 20:56 |
| teward | s/awake/fully awake/ | 20:56 |
| teward | powersj: i tweaked said page a little, added log excerpts as examples of such cases. | 20:56 |
| powersj | teward: ok thx | 20:57 |
| teward | There's another case I know that is also Invalid, but I forget what it is at the moment | 20:57 |
| teward | I think it's "Please add foobarbaz to nginx" where foobarbaz is any given third party module | 20:57 |
| nacc | teward: typos! anchors :) | 20:57 |
| teward | yay wiki lag >.< | 20:59 |
| teward | powersj: even better, now, canned comments to use for those two cases. :p | 21:08 |
| powersj | teward: oh see now you are marking me really happy :) | 21:08 |
| teward | at some point this is going to become infinitely long, so I'll have to move it to its own 'Package of Interest' page heh | 21:08 |
| powersj | keeping that my cut-and-paste page :) | 21:08 |
| teward | powersj: i give two separate canned comments, depending on which case we see, feel free to adjust as you wish (same for all other Server Team people). | 21:09 |
| teward | but it will at least indicate of course the status to set, why we set it, and how someone should respond if they still think it's a bug. | 21:09 |
| teward | And since i'm subbed to ***every*** nginx bug for all notices, even if the bugs are closed as INvalid or such, I'll see the alerts xD | 21:09 |
| teward | even if the rest of the Server Team doesn't :) | 21:09 |
| teward | ooo I see LXC is on the POI page... | 21:10 |
| teward | I got tired of having to manually adjust all my LXC containers, I wrote a fairly in depth Python script that can create a container *and* modify the container, sort of 'bootstrapping the container to specified needs' at the time of creation. | 21:11 |
| teward | it's on github now xD | 21:11 |
| teward | in case, you know, anyone is interested :P | 21:11 |
| teward | (it's not LXD, but that's because dnsmasq wouldn't behave with LXD on my system oh well) | 21:11 |
| jamespage | coreycb, ok promoting to -proposed now | 21:42 |
| coreycb | jamespage, thanks | 21:43 |
| dgarstang | I'm booting an Ubuntu EC2 instance with 2x2TB disks attached. They are mounted as 1Tb disks instead. I think cloud-init is doing this. Is this a known bug in cloud-init? | 21:59 |
| powersj | dgarstang: you could ask in #cloud-init, but I don't think so. They probably will want to see your cloud-config if you are doing any customizing | 21:59 |
| dgarstang | powersj: Zero customization | 22:00 |
| dgarstang | I don't think it's a filesystem issue. Fdisk reports the disks as 2Tb each | 22:01 |
| dgarstang | I have an instance with 2 x 2Tb disks. When I run "mount -t ext4 /dev/xvdj" I get a 1Tb volume. Why? | 22:11 |
| nacc | dgarstang: look at how they are partitioned? what format, etc. | 22:19 |
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| teward | jgrimm: what should go in the "Packages of Interest" page, if I decide to make one? | 22:59 |
| jgrimm | teward, its really free form, if you feel important items to know about nginx in ubuntu | 23:00 |
| teward | cool. It will contain a brief blurb about what it is, maintaining it, what to not ask about, and a small guide to the versions in the Repositories. Since they're all different right now :P | 23:02 |
| jgrimm | teward, sounds good. thank you! | 23:06 |
| teward | jgrimm: I made a note on the whiteboard for the server work blueprint | 23:08 |
| teward | namely about http/2 readiness/stability in Apache, because IIRC the Security team NACK'd it | 23:08 |
| teward | not sure if that's changed | 23:08 |
| mwhahaha | jamespage, coreycb: did you guys propose m3 or rc1? there's a bunch of stuff that got broken/fixed for nova between m3 and rc1 | 23:08 |
| teward | (it's why NGINX has HTTP/2 but not Apache currently) | 23:09 |
| jgrimm | teward, I saw that (and yes I was aware), nacc just wanted a reminder to look at it again in the future | 23:09 |
| teward | OK | 23:09 |
| teward | still leaving my comment if there's no objection :) | 23:09 |
| jgrimm | no objection at all! :) | 23:09 |
| teward | cool. :) | 23:09 |
| coreycb | mwhahaha, rc1 was promoted to -proposed a few hours agao so may still be in progress | 23:11 |
| mwhahaha | coreycb: http://logs.openstack.org/66/433266/1/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-4-scenario002-tempest-ubuntu-xenial/e043e14/console.html#_2017-02-13_21_16_13_600854 so you're missing the create_cell command | 23:11 |
| mwhahaha | which i thought was in rc1 | 23:12 |
| mwhahaha | maybe we don't have it yet in that test run | 23:12 |
| mwhahaha | ah nm still b2, 2:15.0.0~b2-0ubuntu4~cloud0. i'll check on it tomorrow | 23:12 |
| coreycb | mwhahaha, ok cool, create_cell will be in rc1. i've been using it the past week while testing staging. | 23:13 |
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