[00:49] <jbicha> the command is from glib2 2.50
[00:50] <jbicha> robert_ancell: hi, if you've got time, could you look at sponsoring bug 1664288 ?
[00:50] <robert_ancell> jbicha, ok
[01:39] <jbicha> robert_ancell: could you retry gdk-pixbuf? it built on amd64 in my PPA earlier today so maybe the tests are just flaky
[01:41] <robert_ancell> jbicha, retried. It's both 64 bit arches though... looks suspicious
[01:54] <jbicha> ok, it worked on arm64 this time, so let's try amd64 again! :)
[02:20] <dobey> TheMuso: yeah. the problem is that i need cli to do it, for a simple test, that also needs to work on 16.04, which doesn't have the cli option. i'd prefer not to have to write a separate tool for it, but i guess i might have to
[02:27] <Sweet5hark> jbicha: heya, so I readded ant, ant-optional deps for the autopkgtests and checked vs. some older version that had those if we lost more.
[02:33] <desrt> Sweet5hark: uh.  good morning.
[02:39] <Sweet5hark> jbicha: found libarchive-zip-perl, libcommons-logging-java, libglew-dev, libhsqldb1.8.0-java have gone missing, but I think that is justified by changes for all but libhsqldb1.8.0-java. and hsqldb is apparently installed by the autopkgtests if I read the log right.
[02:39] <Sweet5hark> desrt: heh, yeah: moin ;)
[03:42] <Sweet5hark> jbicha, seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/zesty/5.3.0/libreoffice_5.3.0~rc3-0ubuntu2_source.changes
[03:42]  * Sweet5hark goes to fetch some four ours of sleep or so ...
[03:42] <sarnold> heh, just when I was wondering if you were still up or up early..:)
[03:46] <robert_ancell> jbicha, gdk-pixbuf really doesn't want to compile on amd64 :(
[03:46] <robert_ancell> I'll give it one more chance
[08:10] <Sweet5hark> moin!
[08:12] <Sweet5hark> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/zesty/5.3.0/libreoffice_5.3.0~rc3-0ubuntu2_source.changes -- I made the Recommends: on -sbdc-firebird go away when we dont build firebird. I did _not_ add a transitional too as doing both didnt seem to make sense to me.
[08:23] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:23] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark, how are you?
[08:24] <Sweet5hark> heya, a bit underslept, gt away here at 4:45 yesterday. but beyond that: up and ready for a fight ;)
[08:24] <seb128> Sweet5hark, +1 on no transitional ... the other part of the changes should fix the autopkg issues right?
[08:25] <seb128> Sweet5hark, urg, you should get a bit more sleep :-)
[08:27] <Sweet5hark> seb128: yes, I hope so. I didnt remove the "Breaks:" from https://paste.debian.net/plain/914123  as I didnt yet check what the reason for them was and they should hurt. can remove them either later (after ff) or on the next LTS+1 (if that will ever be).
[08:28] <Sweet5hark> seb128: can sleep when Im dead. ;)
[08:30] <seb128> Sweet5hark, that diff has the transitional you said you didn't add?
[08:42] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, seb128, morning
[08:43] <seb128> hey ricotz
[08:43] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, what is the point for a new l10n package?
[08:44] <Sweet5hark> ricotz: new l10n package likely not needed, was just autogenerated by my tooling.
[08:45] <Sweet5hark> ricotz: thus havent shared the -l10n link with seb128
[08:45] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, I see, better don't upload it to safe cycles ;P
[08:58] <willcooke> morning all
[09:01] <desrt> hihi willcooke
[09:01] <seb128> hey willcooke desrt Laney
[09:01] <Laney> yo
[09:01] <Laney> happy iraqi communist martyrs day
[09:02] <desrt> poor communists :(
[09:02]  * desrt has a feeling that, today, rosie is receiving nothing more than a history lesson
[09:03] <Laney> actually I can't find much about the communist martyrs of iraq
[09:03] <Laney> :(
[09:04] <Laney> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_Salman_Yusuf
[09:10] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:30] <flexiondotorg> Morning desktopers
[09:34] <seb128> hey flexiondotorg, how are you?
[09:34] <flexiondotorg> seb128 Very well thanks.
[09:35] <flexiondotorg> Working with some "interesting" organisations on the road to snaps.
[09:36] <flexiondotorg> Going is good now, the snappy team put in a huge effort before Christmas and early in Jan.
[09:36] <flexiondotorg> It is really paying off now.
[09:36] <flexiondotorg> Snap support in electron-builder is reliable now too. They been a willing upstream :-)
[09:37] <seb128> nice
[10:07] <Laney> arhgioahgaoih
[10:07] <Laney> I forgot to rebuild the thing I was bisecting
[10:08] <Laney> good good good good "hmm, this is suspicious, oh well" good good good
[10:08] <Laney> /o\
[10:08] <Laney> attente would never make such a mistake
[10:12] <seb128> it's an art
[10:14] <Laney> yeah I was never any good at art
[10:19] <Laney> that's better
[10:24] <didrocks> pro-bisecter ©
[10:44] <jbicha> do emojis count as art?
[10:44] <jbicha> good morning
[10:52] <Laney> hi jbicha
[10:56] <Sweet5hark> seb128: anything missing for http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/zesty/5.3.0/libreoffice_5.3.0~rc3-0ubuntu2_source.changes -- ff is tomorrow, right?
[10:57] <jbicha> Sweet5hark: LO 5.3 is already in zesty for feature freeze purposes
[11:01] <Sweet5hark> jbicha: hmm, true. admitted having something struck by autopkgtest on ff is just a cosmetic issue. But its MY cosmetic issue ;)
[11:02] <Sweet5hark> jbicha: of course seb128 will say in a second, I should just get my uploader rights and he would be right.
[11:04] <jbicha> Laney: did you see that gdk-pixbuf fails to build on amd64 on zesty? I went ahead and reported it: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/778600
[11:05] <Laney> Nope
[11:06] <jbicha> robert_ancell sponsored it for me and retried it several times :(
[11:06] <Laney> It's probably the MALLOC_PERTURB patch that was dropped though
[11:15] <jbicha> it's causing all its rdepends to ftbfs on non-amd64 :(
[11:15] <Laney> Someone keeps retrying it
[11:18] <tsdgeos> jibel: Laney: can we maybe remove it from proposed? it's blocking unity8 silos for example
[11:18] <tsdgeos> until we get that fixed
[11:18] <davmor2> cyphermox: I'm going to do a fresh flash but can you check amd64 xenial.2 releases slides for me sometimes they trigger sometimes not but only on amd64 testing on xps13
[12:31]  * Laney bins a whole load of old notes / todo lists
[12:31] <Laney> stuff from the u-s-s days
[12:39] <seb128> Sweet5hark, looks good to me, I'm going to sponsor it in a bit, and right you are, you need to apply for ppu for libreoffice ;-)
[12:45] <Sweet5hark> seb128: thanks and yeah! ;)
[12:48] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, any chance for the 5-3 ppa?
[13:11] <jbicha> Laney: I'm surprised you used bileto for gdk-pixbuf
[13:11] <Laney> Ok?
[13:12] <jbicha> I guess for the ephemeral PPA? I can't push directly to those PPAs so that wouldn't work for me to push like that
[13:13] <Laney> I wanted to know that it would work before uploading it
[13:14] <jbicha> it makes sense, I just expected bileto to only be used by packages with those long version numbers ;)
[13:15] <Laney> Nah, it has source package support
[13:16] <Laney> Just need to get into the team that owns the archives
[13:16] <Laney> I think bileto enforces upload permissions for copies for them
[13:26] <flexiondotorg> jbicha Thanks for discussing the UKUI request package bugs.
[13:26] <flexiondotorg> Sorry it took me a day to review the situation, but I've commented now - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1663477/comments/6
[13:27] <flexiondotorg> UKUI and MATE do co-exist.
[13:27]  * flexiondotorg goes back to snaps...
[13:31] <jbicha> thanks, yeah it's complicated; it looks like they are now trying to fork less packages than they originally proposed
[13:33] <jbicha> it would have been nice if they had communicated with others in Ubuntu or MATE sooner, since they are unlikely to meet their Beta1 goal
[13:34] <GunnarHj> seb128: I'm a bit concerned about bug #1655782, since FF is soon. Can you please revisit it?
[13:34] <seb128> shrug
[13:35] <seb128> GunnarHj, I'm not the only sponsor around ;-)
[13:35] <seb128> and I'm not sure that is concern/feature impacted by ff or an important issue for the majority of our users
[13:36] <seb128> GunnarHj, but sure, I'm going to try to have a look, weeks just tend to be busy
[13:37] <seb128> GunnarHj, btw I set up a new role account for langpack uploads and generated a new key on friday, https://launchpad.net/~langpack-uploader ... but we should have got a new set of xenial langpacks in the ppa yesterday and it seems that didn't work out, so I need to investigate
[13:45] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks for the update on the langpack update. The reason I keep asking you about that bug is that you had a look already. Maybe not the most important thing around, and maybe FF does not apply, but it would be great if you could sponsor it.
[13:46] <seb128> yeah, I'm going to have a look again don't worry
[13:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: Great!
[14:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: looks like it might of been a bad copy to pendrive seems to be fine after a re-copy I'll keep an eye out fir it happening again though incase it is a race of some sort
[15:31] <willcooke> ohh
[15:31] <qengho> Oh man.
[15:31] <willcooke> that came round quick.
[15:31] <desrt> yup
[15:31] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2017-02-14
[15:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 14 15:31:19 2017 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:31]  * desrt always has trouble remembering if it's winter that's +2 and summer +1 or the other way around
[15:31] <willcooke> Happy valentines day lovelies
[15:31] <willcooke> :)
[15:31] <desrt> :D ♥
[15:31] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski (out), fjkong, flexiondotorg (out), happyaron(out), hikiko (might be sick), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter (hols), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[15:32] <qengho> Is that the "pink killer"?
[15:32] <FJKong> full house
[15:32]  * desrt appears confused
[15:32] <Sweet5hark> hello all! ♥
[15:33] <willcooke> One more minute and lets start
[15:33]  * didrocks waits and wants his VIP table :)
[15:34] <hikiko> hi
[15:34] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:35] <andyrock> hey
[15:35] <andyrock> * updated to some u8 branches after review
[15:35] <andyrock> * chromium on mir
[15:35] <andyrock>   - spent some time studying chromium, ozone, etc.
[15:35] <andyrock>   - had a chat with chromium developer to understand the state of chromium/ozone/wayland
[15:35] <andyrock>   - setup our git repositories
[15:35] <andyrock>   - start to implement the first classes
[15:35] <andyrock> * reviews
[15:35] <willcooke> thanks andyrock
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:36] <attente> hey
[15:36] <attente> content-hub drag and drop discussion
[15:36] <attente> was hoping to land the gtk package soon, but blocked by u-a-l
[15:36] <attente> testing the new revision of apparmor dconf patches
[15:36] <attente> (<3)
[15:37] <willcooke> thanks attente
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:37] <desrt> hey
[15:37] <desrt> refactoring work to prepare for apparmor stuff now that the API is available to us
[15:37] <desrt> basically, turning stuff into gobjects and adding change signals to everything to support dynamic policy changes
[15:38] <desrt> eof.
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks desrt
[15:38] <desrt> oh.  right.  ♥ as well
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:38] <willcooke> 1. netcat-openbsd out-out bug, LP: #1656785
[15:38] <willcooke> 2. spl-linux & zfs-linux 0.6.5.9
[15:38] <willcooke> 3. GNOME translation bunch review
[15:38] <willcooke> err
[15:38] <willcooke> oops
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:38] <FJKong> hi
[15:38] <qengho> Man, we're fast today.
[15:38] <FJKong> * merge gedit 3.22.0-1ubuntu2 from debian #1664529
[15:38] <FJKong> * [SRU] gnome-calulator: give more Test Case info #1633408 #1648992
[15:38] <FJKong> * redo merge subversion #1662787
[15:38] <FJKong> * redo merge pygtk fix changelog as format requested.
[15:38] <FJKong> * keep working on avahi-daemon crash
[15:38] <FJKong> eof
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks FJKong
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic flexiondotorg
[15:39] <willcooke> hold tight, big copy & paste coming
[15:39] <willcooke>  Time appropriate greetings!
[15:39] <willcooke> - Joined the Dell webcast: "Ubuntu Linux | Basic functionality and
[15:39] <willcooke> Installation" to see what they had to say. "Huge interest and demand
[15:39] <willcooke> in Ubuntu from our customers"
[15:39] <willcooke>     - They even explained how to install/configure dual booting UBuntu
[15:39] <willcooke> and Windows on computers sold by Dell that shipped only Windows.
[15:39] <willcooke>     - Advised to disable SecureBoot.
[15:39] <willcooke> - Identified ~400 Electron apps for snap outreach.
[15:39] <willcooke> - Talked to upstream electron-builder to get some remaining issues
[15:39] <willcooke> squashed when making snaps.
[15:39] <willcooke>     - electron-builder (used widely for building cross-platform
[15:39] <willcooke> electron apps) is now making snaps reliably.
[15:39] <willcooke> - Created PoC snap for Brave.
[15:39] <willcooke> - Created a PoC snap for Skype for Linux Alpha.
[15:39] <willcooke>     - In touch with the Skype team.
[15:39] <willcooke>     - They attempted snapping Skype last year and ran into issues.
[15:39] <willcooke>     - They've sent over the issue list and I'm seeing if any issues
[15:39] <willcooke> still remain.
[15:39] <willcooke> - Tested snapd and snapcraft on Ubuntu 14.04, bugs raised.
[15:39] <willcooke> - Tested Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Linux Lite,
[15:39] <willcooke> elementary, Linux Mint,Zorin,KDE Neon and Arch Linux for snap
[15:39] <willcooke> compatibility, bugs raised and distro maintainers contacted where
[15:39] <willcooke> required.
[15:39] <willcooke> - Raised a bug regarding Media Key support in strictly confined snaps.
[15:40] <willcooke> Thanks to _didrocks and _seb128. FIxes committed last night by
[15:40] <willcooke> _jdstrand.
[15:40] <willcooke> - ISO Testing
[15:40] <willcooke> - Had a call with Hyper, an electron terminal application.
[15:40] <willcooke>     - Snapped Hyper by enabling snaps in their electron-builder configuration.
[15:40] <willcooke>     - Pull request submitted upstream.
[15:40] <willcooke> 🎬
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic hikiko
[15:40] <hikiko> hi
[15:40] <hikiko> chromium on mir with andyrock:
[15:40] <hikiko> - we now have a git project on lp, a mir platform (empty, but we compile with mir classes) and we are adding code
[15:40] <hikiko> eof
[15:40] <willcooke> thanks hikiko
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:41] <Laney> sup
[15:41] <Laney> let's just take a breath
[15:42] <Laney> in and out
[15:42] <Laney> ok, that'll do
[15:42] <willcooke> :D
[15:42] <Laney> • Debugged / fixed a 'no password' bug in unity-control-center, uploaded that (& a branch for Robert)
[15:42] <Laney> • Fixed emacs24 build failure which was blocking stuff. Forwarded that to Debian. 25 is still broken differently & others are looking at that
[15:42] <Laney> • Fixed gst-libav regression in x-updates & upstream, waiting in -proposed now
[15:42] <Laney> • Tried to push on u-a-l switching to upstart, hopefully being worked on now
[15:42] <Laney> • Shared my work on gnome-software 3.24 & made a proposal about branch organisation
[15:42] <Laney> • Debian updates: gdk-pixbuf & glib2.0
[15:42] <Laney> • No big work on autopkgtest or appstream this week, just babysitting
[15:42] <Laney> • Some sponsoring reviews
[15:42] <Laney> • Found out `nova boot' doesn't work on Zesty (at least against Canonistack) - bisected and filed a bug.
[15:42] <Laney> • 💑
[15:42] <Laney> 🐭
[15:42] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:42] <willcooke> <bunch of flowers>
[15:42] <willcooke> #opic qengho
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:43] <qengho> * RPi Cr patches. Light discussion with Cr upstream; they're receptive. Patch feedback to J@Foundation.
[15:43] <qengho> * Cr beta updates.
[15:43] <qengho> * Cr stable, fixing assert heap-freeing crashes on one machine. Not present on same-architecture other machine. Weeird.
[15:43] <qengho> * ♥
[15:43] <qengho> EOF
[15:43] <willcooke> thanks qengho
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:43] <seb128> sorry just wiped out my notes instead of copying
[15:43] <seb128> can we go back to me in a minute?
[15:43] <willcooke> :) sure
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:43] <Sweet5hark> - that Munich thing
[15:43] <Sweet5hark> - some TDF admin wrt to contractors
[15:43] <Sweet5hark> - 5.3.0 upload for zesty before ff (thx jbicha and seb128)
[15:43] <Sweet5hark> - autopkgtests fix for zesty, fixed the firebird issues
[15:43] <Sweet5hark> - some upstream refactoring
[15:43] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:44] <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark, good luck with Munich
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:44] <willcooke> * More testing pulse in xenial with latest bluez from zesty, various patches added/removed, etc. I am unable to consistantly use the bluetooth earbuds I have on hand. Both devices support multiple profiles, and neither profile always works, adn things behave differently again if I use different bluetooth controllers. Still not at the point where I feel I have a set of patches that can be backported from pulseaudio upstream to help
[15:44] <willcooke> with bluetooth matters.
[15:44] <willcooke> * Managed to sort out the race condition I was seeing with unity-panel-service and at-spi. The solution I've gone with for now is similar to what was used back when we used upstart for user session management, in that I added a service for at-spi for the unity 7 systemd target.
[15:44] <willcooke> * Spent time testing an at-spi patch from usptream which is attempting to resolve a crash that can occur when exiting an app like GEdit. Its intermitant, so not sure if the patch has done the trick yet.
[15:44] <willcooke> * Found some possible issues with my gsettings backend for Orca, so spent time tracking those down. Fixes not yet worked out, so that is next.
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[15:44] <seb128> he's out today
[15:44] <willcooke> ah yeah, thanks seb128
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:44] <willcooke> - Chasing up snapd features / bugs for desktop use-cases
[15:44] <willcooke> - Releases: snapd-glib 1.7, lightdm 1.21.4, simple-scan 3.23.90
[15:44] <willcooke> - gnome-software 3.20.1+git20170208.0.a34b091-0ubuntu1~xenial1 SRU
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:45] <seb128> • quite some work trying to fix the langpacks
[15:45] <seb128> ∘ created a new role account for ppa uploads
[15:45] <seb128> ∘ generated a new key since launchpad doesn't let you move keys to another account
[15:45] <seb128> ∘ hit a launchpad bug, rt-ed to get a new email alias
[15:45] <seb128> • reviews and sponsoring (u-c-c, libreoffice, xkeyboard-config)
[15:45] <seb128> • iterated on the gnome platform snap with Tre_vinho and did_rocks
[15:45] <seb128> and looked at some bugs
[15:45] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:45] <seb128> like the autologin one that Laney fixed (I was trying changing another user which is different codepath)
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[15:45] <seb128> sorry :-)
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[15:45]  * seb128 grrrrs at keeping notes in a unsaved document :p
[15:45]  * dgadomski is waving
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:46] <dgadomski> hey
[15:46] <dgadomski> * recovered from flu
[15:46] <dgadomski> * was busy with non-desktop stuff, but still plan to look closer into bug #1646585 and #1654696
[15:46] <dgadomski> eof
[15:46] <willcooke> hey!  I thought you were still out this week
[15:46] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:46] <dgadomski> I managed to fix myself ;)
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[15:46] <willcooke> dgadomski, glad you're feeling better :)
[15:46] <willcooke> Anyone got anything for AOB?
[15:47] <willcooke> going....
[15:47] <willcooke> going
[15:47] <willcooke> gone.  We can talk after this if needed.
[15:47] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb 14 15:47:29 2017 UTC.
[15:47] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-02-14-15.31.moin.txt
[15:47] <willcooke> thanks everyone
[15:47] <willcooke> that was fast
[15:47] <desrt> :D
[15:47] <seb128> thanks
[15:48] <seb128> efficient one!
[15:48] <Sweet5hark> \o/
[15:51] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, "(re-)add ant and ant-optional" doesnt point to any changes in the diff?
[15:52] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, and again could you create the 5.3 version-specific ppa?
[15:58] <Sweet5hark> ricotz: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-5-3 done. not yet resized for 8GB
[16:00] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, thanks, better make it 10GB
[16:08] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, what is up with the diff?
[17:17] <willcooke> Message from clan - who ever made dragging attachments from one email to another in Thunderbird is a superstar
[17:17] <willcooke> *work again
[17:20] <seb128> lol, likely upstream in that case
[18:24] <flexiondotorg> seb128 I've just read the backlog.
[18:24] <flexiondotorg> What changes were made to the platform snap?
[18:44] <willcooke> night all!