[00:20] <turista> I still wonder what would change if I use a 64 bit version than 32
[00:20] <k1l_> turista: on a 64bit cpu dont use a 32bit os
[00:21] <turista> I just know that x64 can handle more ram memory, better than x86
[00:21] <k1l_> 32bit is running out. google doesnt make a chrome for 32bit anymore. other linux distributions are starting to stop making 32bit isos and packages
[00:22] <turista> wich tftp server would u suggest me to install?¿
[00:23] <k1l_> turista: its not only more ram (which is not true since 32bit ubuntu can use PAE anyway). better think of a highway with 2 or 4 lanes. where is less traffic jam? :)
[00:24] <k1l_> turista: dont use tftp, or ftp. better use sftp or ftps because they are secure.
[00:25] <wedgie> some things require tftp
[00:25] <k1l_> speaking of pxe?
[00:26] <wedgie> among others. Many phones, for example
[00:26] <k1l_> for that ubuntu ships atftpd packages
[00:27] <turista> but to install stuff in the router, it ask me to use tftp (I must obey)
[00:28] <ZJAY> i just got a new 5 tb drive for my ubuntu server should i reformat it etc or just use the ntfs partition because i want it to be compatible with windows for when i game with it and should i use ntfs or exfat partition?
[00:28] <k1l_> ZJAY: "for when i game with it" means when you boot windows on that drive? like a dualboot?
[00:29] <turista> let the system use the default format :-P
[00:29] <ZJAY> no justuse it for windows game data
[00:30] <k1l_> ZJAY: if you only use ubuntu on that machine then there is no reason to use ntfs. its slow and has limitations. standard ubuntu filesystem is ext4
[00:32] <azizLIGHT> help, i thought i was upgrading packages, but software updater tried upgrading my distro instead. process got halted (i think?) because i dont have enough space on /boot
[00:33] <azizLIGHT> am i in the clear if i press ok here:
[00:33] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: what command did you run?
[00:33] <bazhang> azizLIGHT, how big is boot
[00:33] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: i opened software updater and it said something i didnt read properly and i hit "partial upgrade" button
[00:34] <azizLIGHT> http://i.imgur.com/aTEiQYT.png
[00:34] <azizLIGHT> do i need to do something to stop this
[00:34] <azizLIGHT> something additional
[00:36] <azizLIGHT> i cant believe theres no cancel button on that dialog box
[00:36] <k1l_> i guess there was a bunch of packages that needed to rmeove some packages to install them. like kernel updates.
[00:37] <k1l_> press close. its aborted
[00:38] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: heres what it said: http://i.imgur.com/JBgohC9.png
[00:39] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: yes. i prefer apt on terminal for better output
[00:39] <blomstertj> Hello.  Has 16.04.2 been delayed again?
[00:39] <azizLIGHT> i was assuming that "upgrade" was the thing that apt-get means
[00:39] <azizLIGHT> my mistake
[00:39] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: first you should look at /boot and remove old unused kernels and headers
[00:40] <sponix> blomstertj: Chasing version numbers are you ?
[00:40] <azizLIGHT> i plan to do that soon, once i get a big hard drive to make a full disk image as backup... because i later plan to resize my ssd partitions
[00:40] <blomstertj> sponix: I heard from the mailing list that it should be released today from Friday.  I guess not
[00:41] <k1l_> blomstertj: i heared 16.2. is the date now. if you are in a hurry use 16.04(.1) isos and update after install
[00:41] <ZJAY> ok i need to make it compatible for windows cause im on a tri boot kali ubuntu & winders 7
[00:41] <k1l_> blomstertj: no release announced here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-February/date.html
[00:41] <ZJAY> so xfat then?
[00:41] <blomstertj> k1l_: Feb 16?
[00:41] <blomstertj> k1l_: Stupid American date format :)
[00:42] <wedgie> ZJAY: if it were me i'd just leave it ntfs. Guranteed to work in windows and linux can handle it just fine
[00:42] <k1l_> blomstertj: yes
[00:42] <blomstertj> k1l_: huh where did you see that information? I've been looking today but can't seem to find any
[00:43] <ZJAY> wel the exfat thing in linux is just an sudo apt-get install away, and already installed as of now on my kali and ubuntu
[00:43] <k1l_> blomstertj: talk in #ubuntu-release channel. nothing official
[00:43] <k1l_> ZJAY: ntfs is ok.
[00:44] <ZJAY> im just worried about the stoopid partition seagate puts on there also is seagate or toshiba or western digital a better drive?
[00:44] <wedgie> ZJAY: maybe. But ntfs support is there by default, I think. Your choice, really, but since it already has ntfs on it that seems like the path of least resistance
[00:44] <k1l_> ZJAY: doesnt matter. run gparted and format it to whatever you like
[00:45] <blomstertj> k1l_: Shouldn't Software Updater offer to upgrade? Some are saying that if you run apt full-upgrade it'll work.
[00:45] <ZJAY> causei may take this one back if it seems flaky just wondering about others experience with those brands
[00:45] <k1l_> blomstertj: yes. the users do already have all the updates insatlled.
[00:46] <blomstertj> k1l_: hmm I've checked for updates but it says none are available.
[00:46] <k1l_> blomstertj: its just a "service pack" like they are called on windows. its not a whole release
[00:46] <ZJAY> i forget k ntfs handle bigger than 4 gb files or not?
[00:46] <k1l_> ZJAY: yes.
[00:46] <lerner> on my old notebook I could write umlauts over every vowel, also the german sz, and the spanish "enie". I installed a library, but I don't know which one. can you help me?
[00:46] <ZJAY> k thanks
[00:47] <blomstertj> k1l_: never mind.  I just used lsb_release to check.  I was thinking there was going to be a big Upgrade Box
[00:47] <k1l_> blomstertj: the pointrelease is basicall just a 16.04 with all updates until now included.
[00:47] <blomstertj> k1l_: I haven't run Ubuntu long term so I wasn't sure how it works
[00:47] <Jordan_U> blomstertj: I don't think that point releases really mean anything for users who have already installed. The main thing is that they put out a new install iso with all updates.
[00:48] <Lerp> sup guys, I was trying to upg 14.04 -> 16.04 but it aborted & now I can't boot
[00:48] <Lerp> any advice?
[00:48] <Lerp> anyone knows what I can do?
[00:48] <k1l_> Lerp: does an older kernel work when selected in grub?
[00:49] <Lerp> mmm I think I tried but it didn't
[00:49] <Lerp> however I'd try again
[00:50] <Lerp> I'll be back X)
[00:50] <sponix> Unity has Vastly improved it seems
[00:51] <blomstertj> Would anyone recommend installing the latest HWE stack?
[00:51] <k1l_> blomstertj: it works. but its your decision if you need and want it :)
[00:52] <blomstertj> Isn't just new Xorg, Mesa, and Kernel?
[00:52] <k1l_> yes
[00:54] <Mono> lerp is back X)
[00:54] <sponix> k1l_: I'm in.. How do you install this new "HWE stack" ?
[00:54] <k1l_> !hwe | sponix (its only for LTS releases)
[00:54] <blomstertj> What's this about future point releases installing the HWE stack automatically? So when 16.04.3 comes out will my machine automatically update to the 4.8 kernel?
[00:55] <k1l_> blomstertj: to the kernel after that. see the link from the bot^
[00:56] <Mono> trying to boot now with older kernel, no luck
[00:56] <blomstertj> k1l_: So update to 16.04.3 then the kernel will update? Just trying to be clear here
[00:56] <k1l_> blomstertj: for 14.04 you needed to change the kernels manually by installing the new meta package. but that is changed now. you can change to a "rolling release kernel" stack now.
[00:57] <k1l_> Mono: so i guess you need to load a ubuntu usb, chroot into that and run apt update && apt full-upgrade
[00:58] <Mono> k1l_: ok I can try that
[00:59] <Mono> k1l_: question, do you know what does failsafex do?
[01:00] <k1l_> minimal x configuration to work with no 3d video driver
[01:01] <blomstertj> Okay so essentially with the GA stack the kernel will stay at 4.4 throughout the entire life of 16.04 support but if you enable the HWE stack you get newer kernels that are backported from the non-LTS releases?  Is my understanding correct?
[01:02] <tali22> hello i boot from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair boot-repair disk now
[01:02] <tali22> i was using Ubuntu 16.04 and installed Windows 10 to other partition
[01:03] <blomstertj> tali22: Supposed to go the opposite :) It's fixable though
[01:03] <tali22> of course my grub broken but when i try to Recommend repair from the boot-repair
[01:03] <tali22> it always saying grub is still present
[01:04] <Mono> k1l_: do I just need to chroot to the / of ubuntu?
[01:05] <cnnx> if i download a kindle book from amazon is ther a way to read it in ubuntu?
[01:05] <tali22> here is my bootinfo http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992147/
[01:06] <k1l_> Mono: see http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/how-to-fix-non-bootable-ubuntu-system.html
[01:07] <k1l_> you need /sys /proc  ... and the resolv.conf
[01:07] <Mono> k1l_: ran the cammand, it gives unable to resolve host ubuntu
[01:07] <Mono> I see
[01:07] <Mono> K1l_: ok I'll read
[01:08] <k1l_> do exit. then mount the missing parts
[01:08] <tali22> blomstertj how
[01:08] <Jordan_U> tali22: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory /mnt/boot/ --target=i386-pc /dev/sda
[01:08] <blomstertj> tali22: I am unsure.  I just know it's recommended to install Windows first then Linux if they will both be on the same disk.
[01:08] <tali22> here is the bootinfo http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992147/
[01:09] <Mono> k1l_: I just closed the terminal X)
[01:09] <lerner> it is ubuntu the reason whyI cannot use 2 encrypted external hdd s at the same time?
[01:10] <lerner> I think to recall I did that with my old notebook
[01:10] <k1l_> cnnx: yes, there is some ebook viewer like fbreader
[01:11] <tali22> Jordan_U https://thepasteb.in/p/zmh8QllpQBWCZ
[01:11] <cnnx> k1l_: but how does the book get on my system
[01:11] <cnnx> when i purchase the ebook i download a file?
[01:11] <cnnx> and what format is it in?
[01:11] <k1l_> cnnx: yes
[01:12] <k1l_> cnnx: there are bunch of file formats for ebooks. amazon uses azw3
[01:12] <Jordan_U> tali22: Great, then just "sudo grub-install --boot-directory /mnt/boot/ --target=i386-pc /dev/sda"
[01:12] <cnnx> and fbreader reads azw3?
[01:13] <cnnx> is it better than calibre?
[01:13] <cnnx> i heard of that one too
[01:13] <k1l_> cnnx: or calibre.
[01:13] <Mono> k1l_: why do we need to do sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/ ? do you know?
[01:13] <tali22> grub-install command not found   but maybe because i also remove grub-pc with sudo apt-get remove grub-pc command
[01:13] <JairunCaloth> amazon also has a browser based e-reader
[01:13] <tali22> thats why grub-install not found maybe
[01:13] <k1l_> Mono: for dns to work in chroot
[01:13] <JairunCaloth> for your kindle books
[01:13] <Mono> K1l_: ok thx
[01:14] <cnnx> i mean lately all the print books i've been buying i hardly read them, im always on my laptop at night
[01:14] <cnnx> i would read them more online and they are cheaper
[01:14] <cnnx> does that make sense?
[01:14] <cnnx> and i can apply some examples in realtime
[01:14] <cnnx> copy and paste code
[01:14] <cnnx> etc
[01:14] <Mono> k1l_: ok apt-get update gives an error
[01:14] <k1l_> cnnx: that is what ebooks are for. ubuntu can handle them.
[01:14] <cnnx> k1l_: okay thanks wanted to make sure before i purchased any
[01:15] <k1l_> Mono: "sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here
[01:15] <Mono> k1l_: relocation error /usr/lib/x86_.../lib...: symbot ... not defined in ifile lib... with link time reference
[01:15] <Mono> yaay
[01:15] <Jordan_U> tali22: Why did you do that?
[01:15] <Mono> K1l_ ok
[01:15] <JairunCaloth> cnnx: I don't think you can download ebooks from amazon without the kindle app
[01:16] <JairunCaloth> I haven't tried running it in wine.
[01:16] <cnnx> JairunCaloth: oh so its not possible then
[01:16] <JairunCaloth> I'm on amazon now checking and I don't see a way
[01:16] <tali22> Jordan_U to delete grub i was getting error grub is still present and i thought i should remove all about grub ?D
[01:17] <Mono> k1l: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu, then the same relocation error, then "use netcat."
[01:17] <Mono> that's what came
[01:17] <JairunCaloth> cnnx: but amazon does have a browser based ebook reader
[01:17] <cnnx> JairunCaloth: they do?
[01:17] <Jordan_U> tali22: OK, well that was not the best choice :) Please run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc-bin" then run grub-install again.
[01:18] <JairunCaloth> cnnx: yeah. I can click on a book in my library and click 'read now' it opens up in my browser
[01:18] <cnnx> JairunCaloth: read.amazon.ca right?
[01:19] <JairunCaloth> cnnx: I assume so... I'm on read.amazon.com
[01:19] <cnnx> ok
[01:19] <bazhang> cnnx, please take the offtopic chat elsewhere
[01:19] <Mono> k1l_: the error I get is the same as here http://askubuntu.com/questions/777803/ I'll try to look into the answers
[01:20] <JairunCaloth> cnnx: You also might have success running the amazon PC app in wine. Then you could use calibre to strip the DRM, convert it to a different format and read it wherever you want.
[01:21] <cnnx> JairunCaloth: yeah but i prefer native linux applications
[01:21] <k1l_> Mono: so you were running ppas? like the toolchain ppa?
[01:21] <tali22> Jordan_U https://paste.ubuntu.com/23992220/ here is the error i get
[01:21] <bazhang> !ot | JairunCaloth cnnx
[01:21] <Mono> k1l_: hah? XD don't understand
[01:21] <vega> vega
[01:22] <k1l_> Mono: "ls -al /et/apt/sources.list.d/ |nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:22] <JairunCaloth> We are discussing how to read amazon ebooks on linux. I do not see how this is off topic.
[01:22] <shomon> hi, I just upgraded to ubuntu 16.04 and now there are 2 problems: one is that the Xserver won't run, and the other is that ethernet won't connect.  only lo is there when I run ifconfig.
[01:22] <Mono> k1l_: omw
[01:22] <cnnx> bazhang: this is ubuntu related, i'm asking for a way to read ebooks in ubuntu packages
[01:22] <cnnx> from aptitude
[01:22] <cnnx> like fbreader,etc
[01:22] <Mono> k1l_: I think you mean /etc/apt
[01:22] <bazhang> JairunCaloth, stripping the drm is so not topical here, nor is how to get books from amazon
[01:22] <k1l_> Mono: yes, sorry
[01:22] <shomon> so the X server actually does run, but gdm isn't there. I am guessing during install it got stuck and then didn't finish configuring networks etc.
[01:23] <bazhang> JairunCaloth, we have chat channels on freenode, please use those and NOT here
[01:23] <Mono> k1l_: cannot access ...: no such file or directory O.o
[01:23] <shomon> so my question is how do I get the computer to pick up internet in some way. it has a broadcom usb wifi dongle and an ethernet connection.. I'm thinking both need to be set up.
[01:23] <Mono> k1l_: I"ll try to look using the files explorer
[01:24] <Jordan_U> tali22: That won't cause any problems, it just means that you have some piece of software installed in Windows that cares more about DRM than it does about its users being able to boot. Grub works around it, so you should not have a problem.
[01:24] <Mono> k1l_: probably I entered sth wrong
[01:25] <Jordan_U> tali22: Try rebooting, you should get a grub menu now.
[01:25] <tali22> Jordan_U okay i will try now
[01:25] <Mono> k1l_: sry for not being so smart, but do I need to do this command with a normal terminal (ubuntu@ubuntu) or with the one that I made chroot with (root@ubuntu)??
[01:26] <k1l_> Mono: everything needs to be run in the chroot.
[01:26] <Mono> K1l_: ok thx X)
[01:26] <k1l_> since we dont want to fix the usb :)
[01:27] <Mono> k1l_: ok X)
[01:28] <tali22> Jordan_U yes grub2 is installed but it didnt boot any OS
[01:28] <Mono> k1l_: finally
[01:29] <Mono> k1l_; http://termbin.com/4jrj
[01:29] <tali22> Jordan_U: http://twomorecents.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Grub2_Minimal_Bash.gif i go into terminal like this
[01:29] <Jordan_U> tali22: Please run boot info script again.
[01:29] <tali22> https://i.stack.imgur.com/BLbvW.jpg this one
[01:29] <Mono> k1l_: yep those really are the repos I have XD
[01:30] <k1l_> Mono: ok, seems like you installed every 3rd party there is. that is no wonder why the upgrade didnt work
[01:30] <tali22> okay
[01:30] <Jordan_U> tali22: Did you run exactly the command that I gave you or did you change it in any way?
[01:30] <Mono> k1l_: yeah my ubuntu's like 2 years old now, I have tonnes of stuff installed XD
[01:30] <k1l_> Mono: "sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test"
[01:30] <tali22> no i just run that command exactly but before this command i remove grub-pc
[01:30] <tali22> wrongly you know
[01:31] <tali22> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992260/
[01:31] <Mono> k1l_: anything with sudo gives unable to resolve host ubuntu
[01:31] <Mono> k1l_: and here it then gave ppa-purge: command not found
[01:32] <Mono> k1l_: btw I LUCKILY made a working clone of my ubuntu before trying to upgrade so no worries
[01:33] <Mono> k1l_: when I was doing the clone I was like "oh I wouldn't need it, everything will go just fine" ehehehe LOL LOLz
[01:33] <k1l_> Mono: ok that woule be a nightmare of manual work to get working then. so if you have a easy backup at hand revert that. then remove that ppa
[01:33] <Jordan_U> tali22: You don't have a /boot/grub/grub.cfg . Do you know why that might be?
[01:33] <Jordan_U> tali22: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[01:33] <k1l_> Mono: and as i said: there is no guarantee an upgrade with that much 3rd party repos works at all.
[01:34] <Mono> k1l_: I see, I might try, but what's wrong with that ppa anyway?
[01:34] <tali22> Jordan_U: hmm after this command i should restart )
[01:35] <k1l_> Mono: its the toolchain "test" ppa. it changes the libstdc++ to a another version. the reason why that is bad you see as errormessage right in front of you
[01:35] <Jordan_U> tali22: I don't understand. You should not restart now.
[01:36] <k1l_> Mono: you could try to load the http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libstdc++6 from here with "wget downloadurl" and then run "sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb"
[01:36] <tali22> Jordan_U:  okay here is new bootinfo after mount command http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992279/
[01:36] <Mono> k1l_: ok I'll try that
[01:36] <k1l_> Mono: this actually should work
[01:36] <Jordan_U> tali22: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B "$i" "/mnt$i"; done
[01:37] <Mono> k1l_: I hope it would
[01:38] <tali22> Jordan_U: yes and
[01:38] <Jordan_U> tali22: sudo chroot /mnt/
[01:38] <Jordan_U> tali22: You should now have a "#" prompt.
[01:38] <tali22> Jordan_U: yes i have
[01:41] <Mono> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992308/
[01:41] <Mono> k1l_: what am I doing wrong?
[01:41] <Jordan_U> tali22: Please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep grub".
[01:41] <k1l_> Mono: you need to get the url for the package from the link i posted. that is not the download link
[01:42] <Mono> k1l_: LOL X'D
[01:42] <Mono> k1l_: right XD
[01:42] <tali22> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992314/
[01:44] <Jordan_U> tali22: Do you know why you only have grub-efi installed even though you have a BIOS based installation of Ubuntu?
[01:45] <tali22> Jordan_U: im not sure i ran the commands which boot-repair says
[01:45] <tali22> maybe because of that
[01:45] <Mono> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992321/
[01:46] <Jordan_U> tali22: OK. "apt install grub-pc". If this fails with an error about being unable to fetch the packages then we'll deal with that.
[01:46] <k1l_> Mono: you need to load the 32bit version, too. and then name both files "sudo dpkg -i package64bit.deb package32bit.deb"
[01:46] <tali22> Jordan_U: its installing
[01:47] <Mono> k1l_: I should exactly name them "package32bit.deb"?
[01:47] <tali22> Jordan_U: which i should choose sda or sda1 its askking
[01:47] <k1l_> Mono: no, that was just my naiming. it needs to match the names of the packages"
[01:48] <tali22> Jordan_U: sda1 is Ubuntu sda is  my ssd
[01:48] <tali22> Jordan_U: both Ubuntu and windows
[01:48] <Jordan_U> tali22: sda. And since the interface is a little unclear, you select and unselect devices with space bar. When sda, and only sda, has a '*' next to it press Enter to continue.
[01:49] <Mono> k1l_: I don't get it X)
[01:49] <tali22> Jordan_U: well success
[01:49] <Mono> k1l_: example?
[01:49] <k1l_> Mono: i used example names. you need the real names
[01:49] <Jordan_U> tali22: OK. Keep that terminal open but run boot info script one more time and pastebin it.
[01:49] <tali22> Jordan_U: its installed and its found windows 10 on sda2
[01:50] <Mono> k1l_: oh so you're just telling me how to do the command, not to rename the .deb files
[01:50] <Mono> k1l_: I thought I needed to rename the .deb files
[01:50] <elisa87> please have a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/883109/fatal-error-numpy-arrayobject-h-no-such-file-or-directory
[01:50] <k1l_> Mono: no. no renaming needed
[01:51] <tali22> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992341/
[01:51] <Mono> k1l_: yeah my bad XD
[01:52] <Jordan_U> tali22: Looks good. Reboot.
[01:52] <k1l_> elisa87: is there a reason you install everyhing from pip and not from the ubuntu packages?
[01:52] <tali22> Jordan_U: can i restart to check if grub is working
[01:53] <elisa87> k1l_:  because that is a python package!
[01:53] <k1l_> elisa87: and it looks like you have still broken permissions in your users home
[01:53] <k1l_> elisa87: ubuntu ships a lot of pyhton packages that are made working already
[01:53] <k1l_> elisa87: you install all that stuff from non ubuntu repos and come here complain that this is not working instead of using the ubuntu packages tthat do work
[01:54] <elisa87> this is what "sudo apt-get install numpy" shows E: Unable to locate package numpy
[01:54] <sponix> k1l_: Do you run this HWE stack ?
[01:54] <Mono> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992353/
[01:54] <k1l_> elisa87: please use "apt search numpy"
[01:54] <k1l_> elisa87: so you will see there is "python-numpy" on ubuntu
[01:55] <elisa87> k1l_: updated the question http://askubuntu.com/questions/883109/fatal-error-numpy-arrayobject-h-no-such-file-or-directory please have a look
[01:55] <k1l_> Mono: does "sudo apt update" work now?
[01:55] <Mono> k1l_: :'))))
[01:56] <Mono> k1l_: yes
[01:56] <Mono> k1l_: so first THANK YOU SO FREAKIN MUCH XD
[01:56] <k1l_> Mono: then run "sudo apt install ppa-purge" first
[01:56] <Mono> k1l_: second, what's next? XD
[01:56] <Mono> oh so cancel the update?
[01:56] <tali22> Jordan_U: can i
[01:56] <k1l_> Mono: then "sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test"
[01:57] <k1l_> Mono: the apt update can run to end first
[01:57] <Mono> k1l_: do I cancel the apt update?
[01:57] <Mono> k1l_: ok
[01:57] <k1l_> elisa87: there is python3-numpy too. i dont know what your program needs there
[01:57] <tali22> Jordan_U: are you there _
[01:59] <taliptako> Jordan_U, i'm tali22 i'm writing from my Ubuntu grub is working
[02:00] <Mono> k1l_: the purge toolchain command gives "ppa-purge: command not found", how come? X)
[02:00] <k1l_> k1l_> Mono: then run "sudo apt install ppa-purge" first
[02:00] <Mono> k1l_: unmet dependencies
[02:01] <Jordan_U> taliptako: Great. You're done then.
[02:01] <Mono> k1l_: do I try -f install or do I show you a paste?
[02:01] <k1l_> Mono: sudo apt install --reinstall gcc-5-base
[02:01] <taliptako> Jordan_U, okay thank you
[02:01] <taliptako> Jordan_U, i wonder why that tool didnt reinstall  the grub
[02:01] <Mono> k1l_: unmet dependencies X)
[02:02] <taliptako> and make us work like that :)
[02:02] <k1l_> Mono: show paste please
[02:03] <k1l_> sponix: no, because i use livepatching service
[02:04] <Mono> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992404/
[02:04] <Mono> k1l_: part of it is the end of the apt update command
[02:04] <Mono> k1l_: "50unattended-upgrades"
[02:05] <sponix> k1l_: "ksplice" Was around First, any reason to use the Ubuntu Live Kernel patching instead ?
[02:05] <k1l_> Mono: missed the e at base (packagename)
[02:05] <Mono> k1l_: then tried again
[02:05] <Mono> k1l_: included in paste
[02:06] <k1l_> sponix: its not about what was around first, its about what works for you. and canonical offers that service
[02:06] <Mono> k1l_: oh oh it's incomplete
[02:06] <sponix> k1l_: Is Canonical's offering Free as well ?
[02:07] <k1l_> sponix: up to 3 machines, yes.
[02:07] <Mono> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992463/ sry 'bout that XD
[02:07] <sponix> k1l_: Nice.. I might look into it then..
[02:07] <k1l_> i am not aware of redhat or suse offereing that for free
[02:07] <sponix> k1l_: Thanks for all your Help/advice so far by the way
[02:08] <k1l_> Mono: try apt-get -f install
[02:08] <k1l_> sponix: np
[02:08] <Mono> k1l_: with no specified package right?
[02:08] <k1l_> Mono: no, just that
[02:09] <elisa87> how can I solve this?numpy/npy_math.h: No such file or directory
[02:09] <Mono> k1l_: done, now what
[02:09] <Mono> k1l_: installing ppa-purge
[02:09] <k1l_> Mono: ppa-purge again installing then removeing the ppa
[02:10] <Mono> k1l_: success
[02:10] <k1l_> Mono: after that  run "sudo apt update" again. then"sudo apt full-upgrade"
[02:12] <k1l_> Mono: that should do good to your system then. i need to go afk, so ask in here and other might help then.
[02:12] <Mono> k1l_: woooohoooo working X'D
[02:13] <Mono> k1l_: need to get 109 megas
[02:14] <lord-ragnarock> Is anyone at all familiar with Old World macs and BootX? :P
[02:14] <cfhowlett> lord-ragnarock, there is undoubtedly a channel for that somewhere
[02:15] <cfhowlett> !mac | lord-ragnarock
[02:15] <lord-ragnarock> Oh wow. Let's see what that gives me :)
[02:16] <lord-ragnarock> Wrong command, oops haha
[02:17] <lord-ragnarock> Sadly that didn't dive into the realm I was looking for. How do I search channels again? :)
[02:17] <wedgie> !alis
[02:17] <cfhowlett> lord-ragnarock, use the !alis
[02:19] <cyber-rape> hello
[02:19] <cyber-rape> !ops | i am here to sexually harass the channel operators
[02:19] <cfhowlett> please ban this fool
[02:19] <cyber-rape> cfhowlett: i am no threat to you
[02:20] <lord-ragnarock> .-.
[02:20] <cyber-rape> i am here to sexually harass the channel operators.
[02:23] <Mono> k1l_: do you think the upgrade will work? X'D
[02:25] <Mono> k1l_: oh you said you need to go, I didn't notice
[02:34] <matyaz> ola k ase
[02:34] <matyaz> full hd 4k 1080p con medicina incluida xd
[02:34] <matyaz> ola tu k te cre
[02:34] <cfhowlett> italian?
[02:34] <matyaz> no, spanish
[02:34] <matyaz> ola tu k te cre
[02:35] <cfhowlett> !es | matyaz
[02:35] <matyaz> !it | cfhowlett
[02:36] <matyaz> hello
[02:36] <matyaz> ! it | cfhowlett
[02:36] <matyaz> ! it | cfhowlett
[02:36] <cfhowlett> matyaz, stop
[02:36] <matyaz> ! it | cfhowlett
[02:36] <matyaz> xD
[02:36] <matyaz> ! it | cfhowlett
[02:51] <Mono> k1l_: I hope you see this msg. Just wanted to thank you again, the system boots just fine all thanks to you so .. thanks a lot :D
[02:52] <OerHeks> !cookie | k1l_
[02:56] <Mono> !cookie | k1l_
[02:56] <Mono> ubottu: what's the cookie thing?
[02:57] <Mono> LOL XD
[02:57] <Mono> OerHeks: what's the cookie thing?
[02:57] <OerHeks> just a way of showing appr4eciation
[02:57] <OerHeks> -4
[02:58] <cfhowlett> we can't send beer.  we can send cookies.
[02:58] <OerHeks> jups, universal
[03:00] <Mono> hehe :D
[03:13] <zmux> Hello. Can I get help with my Ubuntu installation?
[03:15] <Mono> zmux: go ahead
[03:16] <zmux> I'm dual booting Ubuntu 14.04 on a separate ssd from Windows 10. I was unable to automatically connect to the internet through ethernet, but manually I set up a connection. However, I still don't have internet. when loading a web page, I get server not found
[03:17] <Mono> zmux: never had this situation before unfortunately
[03:17] <Mono> zmux: actually when I have wifi problems I get around them with ethernet. How did you set up your connection?
[03:18] <zmux> Mono: I don't have wifi as this is a PC I built, I set up my connection by following Ubuntu's forums and I put in the Address, Netmask, and Gateway and DNS servers of my router manually
[03:20] <Mono> zmux: So far whenever I just connect an ethernet cable to a router internet just works. Maybe the problem's with the cable?
[03:20] <Bashing-om> zmux: Desktop install with network-manager ? If so did you tell NM that "you" managed networking ?
[03:21] <zmux> Mono: Nah. Like I said, I'm dualbooting with win10. Windows has internet with no issues. If it helps at all, when I run "ifconfig -a" I get under about 2k dropped packets next to eth0.
[03:21] <zmux> Mono:  what is this network-manager?
[03:23] <Mono> zmux: afaik the part of the system that's responsible to connect you to the internet. Like I said, for me an ethernet cable always works when I plug it in. Do you have a bootable usb?
[03:23] <zmux> Mono: Yeah. That's what this is currently on because I was trying to get the internet running before I installed it so it could download all the packages
[03:25] <Mono> zmux: ...maybe it's a drivers thing? try typing "additional drivers" in the dash
[03:26] <Mono> Bashing-om: how should he tell the network manager that it's a manual configuration?
[03:26] <zmux> Mono: It says no additional drivers are available
[03:27] <Mono> zmux: actually I think it needs internet access to detect drivers. We're stuck in a logical loop hehe
[03:29] <zmux> Mono: yeah... hahahah it's a problem when I try to install packages or drivers that may fix this
[03:31] <Mono> zmux: I tried searching quickly, maybe try disabling ipv6?
[03:31] <Mono> zmux: I'm clueless about your issue really
[03:33] <Bashing-om> Mono: zmux :: what returns ' grep "managed=" /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf ' ?
[03:33] <zmux> Mono:  managed=true. I changed that recently due to a suggestion in a post. Should I change it back
[03:35] <Mono> zmux: maybe. Mine shows managed=false
[03:35] <Mono> Bashing-om: what should he do?
[03:36] <agent_white> Mono: Likely he's checking to see if zmux is able to control his network from the Network Manager interface
[03:37] <zmux> Mono: I changed it back but still the same issue. Server not found on firefox.
[03:37] <Bashing-om> zmux: zmux If this is a desktop install and you will manage networking then "true" is correct . then we need next to look at the config file ' /etc/network/interfaces ' . see what is set up .
[03:39] <zmux> Bashing-om: I would prefer to have it managed automatically if I can hahaha. But I don't mind doing it manually if I must.
[03:40] <zmux> Bashing-om: when I run "cat /etc/network/interfaces" I see "auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback"
[03:41] <Mono> zmux: me too X)
[03:43] <Bashing-om> zmux: That is correct for NM to manage networking . change " /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf ' managed back to false . Then we see what you can talk to .
[03:45] <zmux> Bashing-om:  Why shouldn't my interfaces file not mention eth0? Why is it setting lo as auto
[03:48] <Bashing-om> zmux: Now a days it is dnsmasq that silently modifies your settings based on responses to dns queries.
[03:48] <DeaDSouL> hi, does anyone know how to update samsung 850 pro ssd firmware on linux?
[03:50] <zmux> Bashing-om: so all my settings seem to be in order? Any questions about the package drops on ifconfig
[03:50] <Photon> Oh man the 850 evo ssd
[03:50] <Photon> Had so many issues with that
[03:50] <Photon> It thoroughly sucked
[03:51] <Photon> I put win10 on it because ubuntu wouldn't work on it ._.
[03:51] <Bashing-om> zmux: So far all settings are good . Now we talking a wired connection or WIFI ?
[03:51] <Photon> ./evelauncher
[03:51] <Photon> This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb"
[03:51] <Photon> in "".
[03:52] <Photon> Anyone?
[03:53] <zmux> Bashing-om: wired
[03:53] <vgoodguy> is there some sort of chat, just like IRC but with voice?
[03:55] <Photon> So uhh
[03:55] <Photon> I installed qt 5 and xcb, along with any updates and even wine-devel.
[03:56] <Photon> Still have the error
[03:58] <Bashing-om> zmux: what returns ' ip link ls ' ? can you transfer that output to a pastebin site ?
[04:00] <zmux> Bashing-om: Pastebin site? I can hand copy it. I don't have internet on the computer I'm running the command on
[04:01] <hypermist> Can someone please help me with this error err:menubuilder:convert_to_native_icon error 0x80070005 creating output file L"Z:\\home\\infernoman\\.local\\share\\icons\\hicolor\\48x48\\apps\\7765_winebrowser.0.png"
[04:02] <hypermist>  ?
[04:02] <hypermist> i have been googling my last resort was to come here haha
[04:02] <hypermist> actually
[04:02] <hypermist> i should ask taht in #winehq xD
[04:05] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | zmux
[04:10] <zmux> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23992916/
[04:10] <zmux> Bashing-om: was that correct?
[04:11] <Bashing-om> zmux: We can take dome guesses maybe cut down on the paste . Terminal command ' ip route show ' in the 1st line do you show " default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp1s9 " ??
[04:14] <zmux> well I see my router gate instead of 192.168.0.1 (10.1.3.1). and instead of enp1s9 I see eth0 proto static
[04:14] <zmux> Bashing-om:
[04:15] <Bashing-om> zmux: Yeah ^^ that says you are up . now still my lst .. need to know the gateway . what release are we working with ?
[04:15] <zmux> 14.04 Trust
[04:15] <Mr_Cyclops> ubutu-offtopic not working, any clues please?
[04:16] <zmux> Bashing-om:  oops forgot to tag you. 14.04 Trusty
[04:18] <Bashing-om> zmux: " 10.1.3.1 " os a LAN IP .. how are you getting out to the world ?
[04:19] <sponix> Mr_Cyclops: if you are talking about the #ubuntu-offtopic channel it is working perfectly fine
[04:19] <zmux> Bashing-om: I'm connected through ethernet to a router which is connected to my apartments internet (which has a login page for new devices, but this MAC address is already registered through Windows)
[04:22] <Bashing-om> zmux: k; the iuting adress then nakes sense . However it is above my experience to know how to make the router connect to the apartment internet .
[04:23] <Bashing-om> routing address makes sense*
[04:23] <zmux> Bashing-om: I was just giving that information in case it was relevant. My router is working correctly.
[04:24] <Bashing-om> zmux: It is pertinent . no doubt . I just do not know how to deal with it .
[04:25] <zmux> Bashing-om: Can I give you any other information on my machine that might help?
[04:28] <Bashing-om> zmux: I just do not know how to deal with a LAN ( 10.1.3.1 ) . Hang in here others can come to our rescue .
[04:30] <zmux> Bashing-om: Help us others hahaha. But I put the 10.1.3.1 in manually because I thought that was my gateway on my router. Should it be something else? Because that could be an issue
[04:33] <Bashing-om> zmux: What does your Windows ( working) box show as the gateway address ?
[04:36] <agent_white> zmux: `ip addr` and `ip route` could be helpful
[04:37] <zmux_> Bashing-om: oops. Disconnected
[04:37] <zmux_> agent_white: am I looking for something when running those commands?
[04:38] <agent_white> zmux_: A pastebin to put it in to show us!
[04:39] <zmux_> agent_white: !pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/23993005/
[04:39] <zmux_> ip route
[04:42] <agent_white> zmux_: Well eth0 has no ip
[04:43] <zmux_> agent_white: It's not 10.1.3.1?
[04:43] <agent_white> zmux_: That's where your router (or 'gateway') should be located
[04:43] <agent_white> zmux_: Is DHCP running?
[04:44] <agent_white> Rather, dhcpd ?
[04:44] <zmux_> agent_white: ok.. Yeah. No you're right.   Ummm. I don't think so. I'm setting the connection up manually. How can I tell if DHCP is running? or dhcpd
[04:45] <agent_white> zmux_: Otherwise, I would start by adding one to eth0 by `sudo ip addr add 10.1.3.17 dev eth0`  (I chose 17 randomly, assuming your router acts like most do)
[04:46] <agent_white> Adding one being an IP address for the interface -- not for DHCP, as that would defeat the point of dhcp! :P
[04:46] <Bashing-om> zmux_: agent_white Was setting up manually !. reverted back to network-manager . Maybe restart the service ?
[04:46] <plgos> jello
[04:46] <agent_white> Ohhh yeah! Network manager.
[04:46] <agent_white> ... not familiar with it
[04:46] <zmux_> agent_white: When I set my address manually I set it to 10.1.3.35, but I guess it didn't stick. I could run the ip add in terminal
[04:47] <agent_white> But, why would network manager not give the interface an IP?
[04:47] <agent_white> zmux_: That means it's not being run manually, but by DHCP
[04:47] <agent_white> Why it's not on your interface, I'm not sure.
[04:47] <agent_white> zmux_: And yeah these commands I am recommending are all in terminal.
[04:48] <zmux_> If you're asking about my NetworkManager.conf, I have managed=false.
[04:48] <agent_white> Well
[04:48] <agent_white> How did you "set it manually" if you weren't using a terminal?
[04:49] <agent_white> And what manual steps did you take where it failed?
[04:49] <agent_white> zmux_: You already checked the driver for your network interface, and verified it was loaded and whatnot, right?
[04:50] <agent_white> Last steps sound like some routing, if it gave you *.35 to use
[04:50]  * agent_white shrugs
[04:51] <agent_white> odd your MTU is set at 1000, btw... but that is not related, we can hope :D
[04:52] <Bashing-om> agent_white: House computers -> house router -> apartment router -> internet .
[04:52] <zmux_> agent_white: don't think I can get my driver. I have no internet so my drivers don't show up. And I set it manually through network manager
[04:54] <agent_white> zmux_: You said "managed=false" is inside your NetworkManager.conf, so assuming that loads/works, whatever you do in network manager should be for nothing.
[04:55] <agent_white> Hence, maybe why assigning an IP does nothing but gives you a default 35. Can you ping 10.1.3.1? www.google.com? How about 8.8.8.8?
[04:55] <agent_white> Tossing ideas out there for what to think aboot.
[04:55] <zmux_> agent_white: Well I definitely prefer my network manager to be set to use DHCP instead of being set manually
[04:55] <agent_white> Though without your driver...
[04:56] <zmux_> I can ping 10.1.3.1, not google
[04:56] <agent_white> How about 8.8.8.8?
[04:56] <zmux_> And not 8.8.8.8 because "destination host unreachable"
[04:57] <zmux_> It's transmitting packets to 8.8.8.8, but not google
[04:57] <agent_white> zmux_: Both are google. That was to test if DNS is the issue or IP routing.
[04:57] <agent_white> (google owned DNS servers)
[04:58] <zmux_> So would that make it an IP issue?
[04:58] <agent_white> Yeah
[04:59] <agent_white> zmux_: Go through here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Network_Manager
[04:59] <agent_white> Each time you're testing a change, do it by pinging an IP address or a hostname
[04:59] <agent_white> rather, not "or" but BOTH!
[05:00] <agent_white> Also, any interfaces you know of for checking network status.
[05:03] <agent_white> zmux_: What's /etc/resolv.conf look like? And those two files I mentioned above?
[05:03] <zmux_> which two files?
[05:03] <zmux_> agent_white:
[05:04] <zmux_> agent_white: resolv.conf has one line:    nameserver 127.0.1.1
[05:06] <agent_white> zmux_: That means when you type in "gooogle.com", it goes to "127.0.0.1" to find out what the IP is
[05:06] <agent_white> So it goes nowhere
[05:06] <agent_white> (unless you host a local DNS server or whatnot)
[05:06] <zmux_> I don't believe I do hahah
[05:06] <agent_white> :)
[05:06] <agent_white> zmux_: It could be overwritten... but
[05:07] <agent_white> zmux_: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[05:07] <agent_white> nameserver 8.8.4.4
[05:07] <agent_white> two separate lines as usual; points you to google's DNS
[05:08] <zmux_> agent_white: Alright. I overwrote it, but do I need to worry about it being overwritten?
[05:09] <agent_white> Yes and no? -- You will when you are ready to be worried about it ;P For now, just keep in mind "typing google.com checks my /etc/resolv.conf"
[05:10] <zmux_> agent_white: ok. Cool to know for sure. I'm still getting Destination Host Unreachable when pinging 8.8.8.8 though
[05:10] <agent_white> Likely writing those lines won't do jack since you can't ping the ip. But, if you did `mtr` or `route -n google.com` before and after adding those lines, you'd possibly find some cool results.
[05:11] <agent_white> zmux_: Did you edit that network manager config from "managed=false" to "managed=true" ?
[05:12] <agent_white> (then run `service network-manager restart`)
[05:12] <agent_white> zmux_: We're going the route of having you use Network Manager --  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Network_Manager
[05:12] <agent_white> erm
[05:12] <agent_white> http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed
[05:13] <zmux_> agent_white: I ddin't have it true before, but I just changed it to true
[05:13] <agent_white> zmux_: Okey doke. Now run the second command to restart it
[05:13] <agent_white> then check the file again to ensure it held
[05:15] <zmux_> restarting it says that network-manager is an unknown job. I tried starting it up again with sudo start network-manager and It says job is already running
[05:16] <agent_white> How about running stop?
[05:17] <agent_white> Then run start again
[05:19] <zmux_> Just restarted it. And I set everything back to automatic. Now the resolv.conf is empty and It can't connect through the ethernet
[05:20] <zmux_> agent_white: So I can't ping anything right now
[05:20] <agent_white> Hm
[05:21] <agent_white> Did you check ip addr and ip route ?
[05:21] <agent_white> Now you can see what all that changed (or at least a few things it did)
[05:21] <zmux_> Nothing in ip route :(
[05:23] <zmux_> agent_white: any idea why my ubunto can't even connect to the router without me manually putting in the ip address and all?
[05:25] <XHEART24> hi everyone
[05:26] <XHEART24> do i get support here for my wifi issues with ubuntu 16.04?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !ask | XHEART24
[05:29] <XHEART24> ok
[05:31] <XHEART24> i wanted my wifi to automatic save the password but i went to the wifi, then to edit then on wifi security i enter the password but now when i want to connect to wifi it freezes my pc i hard to reboot my pc by powering off
[05:31] <XHEART24> i tried deleting that wifi profile but it seems not to work
[05:31] <XHEART24> now it is only working with the lan cable cat5
[05:31] <XHEART24> directly to the router
[05:33] <agent_white> zmux_: Without you manually assigned an IP to your NIC? Because, without an IP, there is no way to know where to send packets to!
[05:35] <zmux_> agent_white: Right. But shouldn't I automatically get an ip address when I plug in my ethernet cable?
[05:36] <agent_white> :) Now you're troubleshooting
[05:38] <zmux_> Hahahah true. true. The issue is that I don't know how to make it get that ip address automatically. And when I put it in manually, it still doesn't work
[05:43] <zmux_> agent_white: any tricks up your ip route sleeve that know why an ip address cannot be obtained from ethernet? I was taking a look at ifconfig and I noticed I have an inet6 addr
[05:44] <agent_white> zmux_: What's in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:45] <agent_white> zmux_: From here though, iono. We've 'released access' to network-manager for now, so whatever it says goes.
[05:45] <zmux_> agent_white: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23993334/
[05:46] <agent_white> zmux_; lspci -v
[05:46] <agent_white> ?
[05:46] <agent_white> lsmod as well
[05:46] <agent_white> Personally, with all the changes suggested that you may/maynot have made, I'd reboot the machine
[05:48] <zmux_> lspci -v and lsmod have quite large outputs. Are you looking for something in particular?
[05:48] <zmux_> agent_white:
[05:49] <agent_white> zmux_: Just curious... maybe reboot and start over to see what enabling network-manager sets up.
[05:49] <agent_white> Wish I could offer more guidance, just going through what I would be doing.
[05:49] <zmux_> agent_white: one more time how do I restart network-manager?
[05:50] <zmux_> Thank you for your help
[05:50] <zmux_> agent_white: Do you think it could be something with my mobo?
[05:50] <agent_white> Oh no, your whole computers!
[05:50] <agent_white> computer*
[05:50] <agent_white> And I have no idea.
[05:50] <agent_white> Doubtful though
[06:04] <stanford_ai> when I sudo su otheruser, then run cheese, I get (cheese:9920): Gdk-ERROR **: error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment.
[06:04] <stanford_ai> how can I fix this?
[06:08] <OerHeks> stanford_ai, just a warning, not an error. that happens often when you start a gui program from cmd
[06:09] <stanford_ai> but it doesn't open: ** (cheese:11599): ERROR **: cheese-application.vala:85: Unable to initialize libcheese-gtk
[06:09] <stanford_ai> also it should be able to use X
[06:12] <OerHeks> sudo su only changes the current user to root. Environment settings (like PATH) remain the same.
[06:12] <rager> halp
[06:12] <rager> I just installed 16.10 on my xps 13, and my wifi is out
[06:12] <rager> but the qca6174 is doing bluetooth just fine
[06:13] <rager> I've got one of these in my computer: 3a:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [168c:003e] (rev 32)
[06:13] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, and how can this new user run cheese then?
[06:15] <OerHeks> stanford_ai, not sure, i wonder why someone needs to run cheese as other user
[06:16] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, i have a coworker who sshs into my computer as another user: otheruser, and needs to access the webcam. Using cheese to test it
[06:16] <stanford_ai> but for some weird unknown reason, cheese isn't opening
[06:17] <OerHeks> that is exactly what hackers do :-D
[06:18] <OerHeks> no seriously, i am looking how to fix that xdg runtime error
[06:18] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, yes but I can give that user permission. I just paste a postit on top of my camera when we're not using it
[06:18] <qwertyuiopoiuytr> how can i work with .pak files PLZ i can't find anything
[06:19] <OerHeks> stanford_ai, you need to edit sudoers > env_keep += "DISPLAY XAUTHORITY" >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33187159/error-xdg-runtime-dir-not-set-in-the-environment-gtk-warning-cannot-open-d
[06:20] <OerHeks> pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY cheese
[06:21] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, editing sudoers didn't work
[06:22] <stanford_ai> pkexec worked, but didn't play video from the webcam
[06:22] <stanford_ai> also it required my user authentication
[06:22] <stanford_ai> not useful
[06:22] <OerHeks> qwertyuiopoiuytr, p7zip or unrar can work with .pak files, iirc
[06:22] <rst0aic> hello
[06:22] <stanford_ai> The only thing i need is for me to be able to do: su otheruser; cheese
[06:25] <OerHeks> stanford_ai, if this is unusable, i have no clue :-(  maybe someone else here?
[06:26] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, actually, the webcam stream is an unrelated issue I think. But I don't wanna have to give user permission every time!
[06:26] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, any way to not have to write pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY every time?
[06:27] <qwertyuiopoiuytr> ;( when i run p7zip with pak file it show "/usr/bin/p7zip: <File.pak>  unknown suffix -- ignored"
[06:29] <qwertyuiopoiuytr> *a pak file
[06:31] <alkisg> stanford_ai: what are you trying to do with pkexec?
[06:38] <stanford_ai> alkisg, OerHeks: i solved it. su otheruser won't work, because it changes environment. but ssh -Y otheruser@localhost works perfectly!
[06:38] <rager> found it: had to delete dell's workaround-qca6174-ath10k-delay-load
[06:38] <alkisg> stanford_ai: I joined the channel later on; I didn't see where you were having issues, but glad you solved them :)
[06:38] <stanford_ai> oh
[06:38] <stanford_ai> well i still have an issue
[06:38] <stanford_ai> when i ssh into my own ubuntu, under another user, I cannot run gedit
[06:39] <stanford_ai> ** (gedit:14485): CRITICAL **: file log.c: line 980: unexpected error: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.zeitgeist.Engine: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process /usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon exited with status 21 (g-dbus-error-quark, 25)
[06:39] <Ben64> stanford_ai: yes, because of all the reasons already stated in ##linux
[06:39] <Ben64> tldr - you're doing it wrong. stop.
[06:41] <nikeshm> hi
[06:42] <nikeshm> how can we change iscsi initiator name in ubuntu 16.04
[06:42] <nikeshm> i changed /etc/iscsi/initiatorname.iscsi and restart the service but then i am not able to see the target LUN
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> nikeshm: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might know that one
[06:49] <nikeshm> lotuspsychje:  thanks
[06:50] <nikeshm> i asked now in that channel
[06:50] <nikeshm> let see
[07:11] <curly_brace> sudo apt-cache tcl <- this will check the version of tcl installed to the system?
[07:11] <curly_brace> am i right?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> curly_brace: policy
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> curly_brace: apt-cache policy tcl
[07:13] <curly_brace> oh, thanks
[07:14] <curly_brace> and for example i wanted to check for the default path of my webserver's config?
[07:14] <curly_brace> what command will i issue?
[07:14] <curly_brace> find *webserver* <- something like thi?s
[07:15] <ubuntu-mate> So i just installed Mate...I converted all my drives to Ex4 format (same needed for install). Will mate be able to read them as open har disks?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> curly_brace: perhaps you can find dirs with whereis packagename
[07:15] <alkisg> ubuntu-mate: mate reads ext4 disks, of course
[07:18] <curly_brace> ok
[07:21] <work> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC231kHjlv_ysXDYhLNhC_-Q
[07:21] <work> subscribe
[07:21] <work> thnx
[07:21] <alkisg> Nah
[07:21] <alkisg> Will report spam
[07:21] <OerHeks> don't spam dude
[07:21] <work> block?
[07:21] <alkisg> No, report to youtube
[07:21] <work> ok ))
[07:22] <nomic> sound stopped working in mint -- mplayer etc
[07:22] <nomic> dunno why
[07:23] <OerHeks> mint issue, not ubuntu, nomic
[07:23] <OerHeks> !mint
[07:24] <effectnet> hello
[07:24] <work> Hi
[07:24] <twoard> having problems booting ubuntu(mate) on lenovo ideapad 100s (which has a micro sd card instead of a ssd harddrive) PLEASE HELP PLEASE HELP, what can i do to boot from micro sd card)
[07:24] <effectnet> hows it going
[07:25] <agent_white> it goes
[07:25] <twoard> please help?
[07:26] <OerHeks> twoard, 32 bit uefi, did you try 32 bit mate ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/815301/can-ubuntu-be-installed-on-an-ideapad-100s-atom-laptop
[07:27] <OerHeks> or ask your vendor for a 64 bit UEFI bios
[07:27] <twoard> OerHeks yes
[07:28] <effectnet> i am gonna install the yaketty i guess
[07:30] <effectnet> i want to use my ssd for swap now.  machine only has 4g
[07:36] <effectnet> i tried it on the hdd and it was way too slow
[07:37] <work> Please upgrade to BABL version 0.1.24 or later.
[07:37] <work> how?
[07:56] <stanford_ai> why is ubuntu not showing the Wi-Fi networks? If I go to Edit Connections, they show up. But not in the regular network bar at the top.
[07:56] <stanford_ai> also how do I connect to a wifi network?
[07:57] <twoard> can one install ubuntu(mate) on microsd card? i have lenovo ideapad 100s
[08:03] <alkisg> twoard: you can install it anywhere you like; it's a different question "can my laptop boot from the sd  card" though
[08:05] <townes21> Anyone here familiar with feedreader?
[08:05] <twoard> alkisg: i can boot windows 10 on the micro sd car
[08:06] <alkisg> twoard: cool, then you should be able to boot mate too
[08:06] <twoard> unfortunately no, can't boot any linux os from micro sd
[08:07] <hillis> Why I Am Never Thankful https://youtu.be/hqyaljimCSQ
[08:07] <hillis> 38 likes, 0 dislikes.
[08:07] <hillis> Must be saying something right.
[08:08] <alkisg> twoard: people here say they've succeeded: http://askubuntu.com/questions/815301/can-ubuntu-be-installed-on-an-ideapad-100s-atom-laptop
[08:08] <hillis> It's excellent.
[08:08] <townes21> Is it possible to use feedreader without selecting an RSS service at the startup? When I first opened it I believe it had an 'I don't use an RSS service' option, however thereafter it wants to force me to select an RSS service. Tried removing and purging but never saw it again. Did I imagine this lol
[08:10] <townes21> I've gone thrugh the documentation, unfortunately all of the docs assume you have already setup
[08:10] <cfhowlett> hillis, the channel topic is ubuntu support.  please post random, off-topic videos elsewhere.  thank you.
[08:10] <OerHeks> hillis, please don't spam dude
[08:10] <hillis> Just a gift to the community.
[08:11] <cfhowlett> hillis, no it's spam. don't.
[08:11] <OerHeks> hillis, you create digital waste, stop it.
[08:11] <hillis> If someone gives you a gift how can you tell them that it's not a gift, it's spam? I said it's a gift.
[08:12] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | hillis because it violates the guidelines.  and yes the guidelines apply to you.
[08:12] <OerHeks> hillis, you had your fun, now go away, thanks.
[08:12] <hillis> LOL. You make out like I'm a kid in a candy store. I was just giving something back to the community.
[08:12] <hillis> Peace.
[08:14] <stanford_ai> wifi is not working after updating my ubuntu. I have 14.04
[08:14] <stanford_ai> how can I get wifi back? ethernet works fine
[08:15] <OerHeks> stanford_ai, did you compile the wifi driver yourself?
[08:15] <OerHeks> or give details what card, what driver you used?
[08:15] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, I did not.
[08:15] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, no idea. how can I get those?
[08:15] <bau_cikiih> hai.. hihihi kmh calageur di lembur???
[08:16] <cfhowlett> bau_cikiih, in English?
[08:16] <devesh> #ubuntu
[08:17] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, i think the update installed some *better* drivers that are supposed to work better but instead don't work at all. maybe
[08:17] <panicstr> stanford_ai: cat /etc/network/intercafes, paste it on pastebin.com then post the link here.
[08:17] <devesh> when is ubuntu 16.04.2 releasing
[08:18] <OerHeks> stanford_ai,  lspci or lsusb can tell, 2 guides to troubleshoot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide +  https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-troubleshooting-hardware-check.html
[08:18] <stanford_ai> # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8); auto lo; iface lo inet loopback
[08:18] <OerHeks> but i guess you know fine how to tell what wifi you have
[08:18] <stanford_ai> I cannot install any software because apt-get is broken too
[08:19] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 3a)
[08:20] <panicstr> there's no ethernet info in your /etc/network/interfaces, that can't be accurate
[08:20] <OerHeks> stanford_ai, apt broken, how?
[08:21] <OerHeks> apt broken and wifi broken, related?
[08:23] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, Setting up click (0.4.21.1ubuntu0.2) ...
[08:24] <stanford_ai> Setting up click (0.4.21.1ubuntu0.2) ...
[08:24] <stanford_ai> ImportError: cannot import name 'commands'
[08:24] <stanford_ai> dpkg: error processing package click (--configure):
[08:25] <Gentoochild> hello gurus, I could use a hint, please. I have here a VM with Ubuntu 12, and am trying to build a package using debuild. But whenever it gets to a chmod command during the process, it bails with:
[08:25] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[08:25] <Gentoochild> chmod a-x /path/to/file
[08:25] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone know how I might be able to whitelist a page in icetea plugin?
[08:25] <cfhowlett> Gentoochild, ubuntu 12 is way paste dead and no longer supported.  install a supported version
[08:25] <Gentoochild> chmod: changing permissions of /path/to/file: Invalid argument
[08:25] <Gentoochild> does that ring any bell?
[08:25] <Gentoochild> I know
[08:25] <stanford_ai> I think I solved both problems. I'll restart
[08:26] <Gentoochild> it's not an option. It's for supporting legacy systems
[08:26] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, the wifi fix helped. Thanks! I backported my wifi driver
[08:26] <devesh> does anyone know when is ubuntu 16.04.2 releasing
[08:27] <OerHeks> devesh, i have no date, it was delayed 'till yesterday.
[08:27] <cfhowlett> devesh, "when it's done" ...
[08:28] <ducasse> cfhowlett: isn't 12.04 supported until april?
[08:28]  * Gentoochild nudges cfhowlett towards the channel topic. ;-)
[08:28] <devesh> why its taking so long time
[08:29] <Gentoochild> and it's not like this kind of problem emerges as soon as official support is dropped.
[08:29] <yao_ziyuan> in ubuntu i can't adjust my LCD display's brightness, etc. through controls on the display
[08:29] <cfhowlett> devesh, sudo apt full-upgrade will grab the packages you need.  the point releases are merely 16.04 with all upgrades added to the .iso
[08:29] <yao_ziyuan> when i try, the screen would show a "lock" icon
[08:30] <OerHeks> 16.04.2 delayed for HWE polish
[08:30] <devesh> thank cfhowlett
[08:30] <cfhowlett> ducasse, yes, you're right.  I jumped ahead on my calendar. Sorry for the misinformation Gentoochild
[08:33] <Online_> When installing to a BTRFS file system, is there any way to have installer make and use more than the @ and @home subvolumes? Looking to have the apt package cache and other stuff in separate subvolumes so that content won't get snapshotted when snapshotting the root file system.
[08:33] <Online_> Sorry, meant the @ subvol :)
[08:34] <Gentoochild> so, is this chmod: Invalid argument a known issue? The chmod command that failed works when entered manually.
[08:34] <ducasse> Gentoochild: just a hunch, if the filename is expanded from a variable - is it quoted?
[08:35] <ducasse> Online_: unfortunately not afaik, ubuntu is not really taking advantage of btrfs yet, just basic support.
[08:35] <Gentoochild> there's no space in the path
[08:35] <popey> Online_: only if you set it up manually
[08:35] <Gentoochild> interestingly, chown works:
[08:35] <Gentoochild> from dh_installdocs:
[08:35] <Gentoochild> chown -R 0:0 debian/qt58base/usr/share/doc
[08:36] <Gentoochild> chmod -R go=rX debian/qt58base/usr/share/doc
[08:36] <Gentoochild> chmod: changing permissions of `debian/qt58base/usr/share/doc': Invalid argument
[08:37] <Gentoochild> (from its output during debuild, I mean)
[08:44] <bookish> @find the light between oceans
[08:45] <bookish> @find ml stedman
[08:45] <bookish> @find all the light we cannot see
[08:46] <cfhowlett> bookish, check you channel.  This is ubuntu support
[08:46] <alkisg> Gentoochild: one way to troubleshoot the issue would be to temporarily replace /bin/chmod with a shell script that just echoes its parameters, e.g. http://termbin.com/2ogu
[08:46] <alkisg> Gentoochild: that way you'll be able to see if it has wrong parameters or extra spaces etc
[08:47] <Gentoochild> well I looked at dh_installdocs, and all it did was something like: doit("chmod", "a-x", $filename)
[08:47] <Gentoochild> but I can try
[08:47] <Gentoochild> I like print debugging :)
[08:56] <Gentoochild> looks pretty normal to me:
[08:56] <Gentoochild> Parameter 1: -R
[08:56] <Gentoochild> Parameter 2: go=rX
[08:56] <Gentoochild> Parameter 3: debian/qt58base/usr/share/doc
[08:57] <Gentoochild> and when run manually, it works.™
[08:58] <alkisg> Gentoochild: and the output is "invalid argument", not "file or found" or something?
[09:04] <uwjesq-at-work> Hello. I was wondering. I am on precise and my server needs a php upgrade. If I'd use ppa:ondrej php packages. If anything goes wrong how would I go downgrade to the packages I had before?
[09:07] <Gentoochild> alkisg: yes
[09:08] <OerHeks> uwjesq-at-work, check the ppa page if precise has a version for you. if so, and you want to return to the original packages, use ppa-purge
[09:08] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php?field.series_filter=precise
[09:09] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[09:09] <OerHeks> i would install 16.04 ..
[09:12] <alkisg> Gentoochild: you can run an "xterm" at that point inside the troubleshooting script, so that you have a breakpoint to run the command manually exactly at the point when in complains
[09:15] <rishi_> hi
[09:16] <uwjesq-at-work> OerHeks: Thank you.
[09:16] <beanbagu1> Is there some way of calling multiple phony targets from another target in a makefile ?
[09:23] <PCatinean> Hey guys, if I want to have two ssh keys for github, and I want to selectively use one or the other depending on the repo I clone. How does one go about that?
[09:28] <ocean-breeze> hello
[09:29] <OerHeks> PCatinean, i think ssh-agent can do that http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/52092/how-to-use-ssh-agent-with-multiple-valid-keys-and-yet-choose-which-one-to-use
[09:30] <PCatinean> OerHeks, yeah saw that it's great, the only issue is I want for certains repositories to use one key and for other another
[09:31] <OerHeks> I never used it like that before..
[09:32] <brainwash> PCatinean: did you try http://stackoverflow.com/a/26507643 ?
[09:35] <PCatinean> brainwash, interesting
[09:39] <neteffect> hello
[09:42] <tdm4> Hi all.. I've got a weird problem. I cannot stop/start/restart nginx service with upstart.. I can run the commands by hand (e.g. /usr/sbin/nginx -g 'daemon on; master_process on;' to start and /usr/sbin/nginx -s quit to quit) but when using upstart the script hangs.. forever
[09:44] <OerHeks> tdm4, on what ubuntu version ?
[09:44] <akik> tdm4: did you use initctl?
[09:44] <tdm4> OerHeks: 14.04
[09:44] <tdm4> akik: I used the stop/start/restart commands
[09:45] <tdm4> that are in /sbin
[09:45] <tdm4> e.g. 'start nginx' or 'restart nginx'
[09:45] <akik> tdm4: try using initctl, it's for upstart
[09:46] <tdm4> if I run: initctl start nginx.. I get: initctl: Job is already running: nginx
[09:46] <tdm4> if I run initctl restart nginx.. it hangs
[09:47] <brainwash> tdm4: see if you can find the log in /var/log/upstart/
[09:48] <tdm4> there's nothing in /var/log/upstart about nginx
[09:49] <tdm4> I'm using nginx 1.10.3 from here: https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/stable  (on Trusty)
[09:56] <tdm4> is there a way to force reinstall/replace all files in the upstart package? maybe something got messed up
[09:56] <tdm4> not sure if apt-get install --reinstall upstart would actually replace the files properly
[09:57] <rsv> I am having 2 ethernet ports (eth0 and wlan0) in my laptop and have created a raw socket on eth0 and listening for packets. the interface is not connected to network. even thod
[09:57] <cristian_c> tdm4: maybe, apt-get purge package
[09:58] <rsv>  am having 2 ethernet ports (eth0 and wlan0) in my laptop and have created a raw socket on eth0 and listening for packets. the interface is not connected to network. even though the network is not connected to the network. the raw socket still reports packet
[09:59] <tdm4> cristian_c: tried that with nginx.. it hangs trying to remove or install it because it tries to stop or start the service and upstart hangs
[09:59] <tdm4> the only way I can bring up the service again is to reboot the machine.
[09:59] <tdm4> not ideal
[10:00] <cristian_c> tdm4: maybe in tty shell
[10:02] <tdm4> cristian_c: no because if puppet has to stop or restart nginx it hangs too
[10:03] <B105PH3RE> tdm4: did you check the logs for nginx
[10:04] <tdm4> there is no log in /var/log/upstart for nginx.. also nginx -t checks out fine.. and I can run the nginx start and stop commands by hand with no problem
[10:04] <tdm4> it's upstart hanging/freezing
[10:04] <B105PH3RE> version of ubuntu you using
[10:05] <cristian_c> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1351306
[10:05] <tdm4> 14.04
[10:05] <B105PH3RE> systemd can't restart it
[10:06] <tdm4> B105PH3RE: there is non systemctl in 14.04.5 :)
[10:07] <cristian_c> a question for you, guys
[10:07] <cristian_c> I'd like to make avrcp profile working on my bluetooth headset
[10:07] <cristian_c> I mean: media buttons located on the headset
[10:07] <B105PH3RE> so you can't use service nginx stop
[10:08] <tdm4> B105PH3RE: nope.. it hangs
[10:08] <cristian_c> I've looked at bluetoothctl info output
[10:08] <alkisg> `service` is available in 14.04 too
[10:08] <cristian_c> and avrcp is listed as available for the device
[10:08] <B105PH3RE> so check the logs for it
[10:08] <cristian_c> What methods could I try in order to find the issue?
[10:09] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:09] <lebeev> trying to get networkmanager to work with my EM7455 on 16.10
[10:09] <lebeev> ModemManager seems to do its job fine, but nm-appley keeps repeating this
[10:09] <tdm4> service nginx stop -- hangs, have to press ^C to get back to prompt .. same with restart
[10:09] <lebeev> (nm-applet:3353): nm-applet-WARNING **: ModemManager is not available for modem at /org/freedesktop/ModemManager1/Modem/0
[10:09] <tdm4> and also service nginx start hangs too
[10:10] <tdm4> and it's only nginx.. other services work fine in upstart
[10:10] <alkisg> tdm4: run the init script with sh -x so that you see the point where it hangs
[10:11] <tdm4> alkisg: the one in /etc/init.d or?
[10:11] <tdm4> I thought the one in init.d was sysv?
[10:11] <alkisg> tdm4: if it has a sysvinit script, that one. If it has an upstart script, that one.
[10:11] <alkisg> I don't know what nginx ships in 14.04, you can easily check it out though
[10:11] <tdm4> it appears to have both
[10:11] <akik> tdm4: the upstart services are configured in /etc/init
[10:12] <tdm4> it has both /etc/init/nginx.conf and /etc/init.d/nginx
[10:12] <lebeev> looks like dropping privs for nm-applet solved my problem
[10:12] <alkisg> Although it might be easier to run the sysvinit one as a starting point, because that way you don't have to pull out the exec bits from the upstart job
[10:13] <tdm4> alkisg: if I run the /etc/init.d/nginx script, upstart takes over .. for example: /etc/init.d/nginx stop .. it runs: initctl version, initctl status nginx, and exec stop nginx
[10:13] <tdm4> which of course hangs.. because upstart locks up
[10:13] <B105PH3RE> any one know why I keep getting this message on console
[10:13] <B105PH3RE> kernel: [37777.295958] pcieport 0000:00:1c.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, id=00e0(Receiver ID)
[10:13] <B105PH3RE> and also a recieve error
[10:14] <B105PH3RE> and corrected error
[10:15] <B105PH3RE> tdm4: when you try and restart it follow your syslog at the same time you should see it try and restart see if there is any extra information
[10:16] <alkisg> tdm4: then put a `set -x` to the upstart job shell bits
[10:16] <tdm4> B105PH3RE: nothing in syslog
[10:16] <B105PH3RE> just shows it trying to stop/start?
[10:16] <B105PH3RE> or nothing even showing that far
[10:17] <tdm4> no, upstart doesn't log to syslog
[10:17] <alkisg> I think there's /var/log/upstart or something
[10:17] <OerHeks> B105PH3RE, what pci device is that?
[10:17] <akik> alkisg: that's correct
[10:17] <tdm4> where do I put set -x?
[10:17] <B105PH3RE> 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 940MX] (rev a2)
[10:19] <OerHeks> B105PH3RE, same as 930, maybe 'pci=nomsi'  is your fix too http://askubuntu.com/questions/748078/nvidia-geforce-930m-driver-and-pci-bus-error
[10:19] <Dark92> helle all !
[10:19] <tdm4> here's the upstart script (/etc/init/nginx.conf): http://paste.ubuntu.com/23994155/
[10:19] <B105PH3RE> kernel line command?
[10:19] <OerHeks> B105PH3RE, yes, and read the rest of that post too, pcie_aspm=off ?
[10:19] <OerHeks> or newer drivers from ppa:graphics-drivers
[10:20] <tdm4> with set -x all I get is: + restart nginx
[10:20] <tdm4> when I try to do restart nginx
[10:20] <tdm4> and it hangs there
[10:20] <tdm4> how do I add more debugging to initctl ?
[10:21] <tdm4> I seem to recall there was a way to do it
[10:21] <vague> This is driving me crazy, I've written a script that lets me choose a bind interface by interface name instead of ip/host, but running the script I run into a strange problem, Running the script with bin/ssh -b eth0 .... works, strace ssh -b eth0 .... works, ssh -b eth0 ..... does not, and which ssh points to my script... is ubuntu 16.04.1 doing something to preempt me from running a script named ssh?
[10:21] <B105PH3RE> ok brb
[10:21] <DevAntoine> Hi
[10:22] <DevAntoine> Is it possible to connect to a Mac without SSH? You can do that from a Mac to another Mac but dunno which protocol it is
[10:22] <vague> I can understand that from a security point, sure, but how do I disable this behaviour in that case?
[10:24] <alkisg> vague: it sounds like you have something wrong in your script, it doesn't sound like a security measure of ssh
[10:24] <OerHeks> DevAntoine, VNC perhaps?
[10:25] <B105PH3RE> OerHeks: thanks a bunch seems to have worked
[10:25] <vague> alkisg, you are welcome to look at it. Like I said, it works as expected in certain cases, but I have no idea what difference bin/ssh and ssh does in this case, http://sprunge.us/SIOa
[10:26] <DevAntoine> OerHeks: Dunno. Someone enabled SSH, life saved!
[10:26] <OerHeks> B105PH3RE, thank you for confirmation, have fun!
[10:26] <akik> vague: so what is the error you get from "ssh -b eth0" ?
[10:27] <vague> getaddrinfo: ens33: Temporary failure in name resolution
[10:27] <vague> eth0/ens33, same same, but anyway
[10:27] <akik> vague: so is your script called bin/ssh ?
[10:28] <alkisg> vague: do an "echo /usr/bin/ssh -b $IP $*" before calling ssh, to see what you're actually calling
[10:28] <madz> how do i install ubuntu (mate) on emmc?
[10:28] <vague> akik, I have it under bin in my home dir, $HOME/bin is first in path and which ssh finds my script first
[10:28] <akik> vague: eth0 and ens33 are not the same interfaces, yes, physically
[10:29] <vague> akik, I know, I said eth0 by habit
[10:30] <vague> Trying ssh -b ens33 doesn't echo, bin/ssh -b ens33 does, so it doesn't look like my script is being run
[10:31] <akik> vague: you don't use -b with the interface name
[10:31] <alkisg> vague: also, if you rename your script to myssh, it works without including bin/myssh?
[10:31] <vague> akik, I know, which is why I wrote the wrapper
[10:31] <vague> alkisg, yes, renaming works
[10:32] <alkisg> ssh -b doesn't echo ==> try `hash ssh` and then try again
[10:32] <akik> vague: test also that you are getting bin/ssh first in your wrapper script
[10:32] <akik> vague: it might have a different path specification
[10:32] <vague> brb, work calls
[10:32] <OerHeks> madz, maybe this page is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/785121/installing-ubuntu-16-04-lts-on-emmc-storage
[10:32] <akik> at least it looks like it
[10:32] <OerHeks> Disable CSM( Compatibility support Module)
[10:32] <alkisg> If he says `ssh` doesn't run his script, it's a path/bash issue
[10:33] <Dethfull> i have a bash script with much lines.
[10:33] <madz> OerHeks does ubuntu mate support uefi?
[10:33] <Dethfull> i need to call sleep from another shell script or prevent sleep pausing the scrip,
[10:33] <B105PH3RE> do you people ever sleep? haha
[10:34] <akik> B105PH3RE: this is a global channel
[10:34] <Dethfull> how can i do?
[10:34] <OerHeks> madz, yes, 64 bit does support uefi fine
[10:34] <B105PH3RE> akik: ya I know it was a joke
[10:34] <madz> will try
[10:34] <madz> ty
[10:35] <tdm4> how do I debug initctl?
[10:35] <tdm4> is there some command to spit out debugging to syslog?
[10:35] <tdm4> log-priority?
[10:36] <tdm4> if I set that to debug.. the last message I see before it hangs is: kernel: [ 6124.350524] init: nginx goal changed from stop to start
[10:36] <tdm4> and it hangs.. forever
[10:37] <Dethfull> how can i prevent script shell pausing during sleepm
[10:37] <Dethfull> ?
[10:38] <Dethfull> calling another shell, skipping the sleep pausing
[10:39] <Dethfull> how can i prevent script shell pausing during sleep?
[10:39] <ducasse> !patience | Dethfull
[10:40] <vague> akik, alkisg, it really looks like the script isn't run if it's run with the name ssh
[10:40] <alkisg> vague: does that happen in a new terminal too?
[10:40] <vague> Running it as bin/ssh the correct path is printed
[10:40] <OerHeks> Dethfull, i don't think you can do that during sleep.
[10:41] <vague> Good catch, it didn't
[10:41] <alkisg> Dethfull: what do you mean? If you don't want the script to sleep, don't call sleep..
[10:41] <k1l_> Dethfull: you can only just not suspend the machine if you want to keep processes running.
[10:41] <vague> Worked well in a new terminal
[10:41] <alkisg> vague: that's why I asked you to run `hash ssh`
[10:41] <akik> vague: i just tested creating bin/ssh and i have /home/username/bin first in my path. works fine
[10:41] <alkisg> It tells bash to reread the files in the path
[10:41] <alkisg> vague: man bash and search for hash there for explanation
[10:42] <vague> alkisg, alright, thanks for the help, I wouldn't have figured it out on my own
[10:42] <vague> Thanks akik too :)
[10:42] <akik> vague: it works now?
[10:42] <Dethfull> i need the sleep for kill some programs after, i want to know if is posible calling another shell, or another alternative to sleep.
[10:42] <vague> akik, yes, also in the original terminal after running hash ssh
[10:43] <tdm4> looking at strace output.. it looks like upstart tries to set up a socket.. and hangs
[10:44] <alkisg> Dethfull: see an example: echo 1; ( sleep 3; echo 2 ) & echo 3
[10:44] <alkisg> Dethfull: this calls sleep, then continues with echo 3, and finally calls echo 2. Is that what you're looking for? The & there?
[10:44] <Dethfull> alkisg, i have a bash script, that needs sleep 900 and kill the.pid , but i don't want pauses  , because i have another lines inside.
[10:45] <alkisg> Dethfull: ( sleep 900; kill $pid) &
[10:45] <alkisg> Dethfull: this puts it to the background and continues execution with the next lines
[10:45] <Dethfull> alkisg i tried this, still is pausing
[10:46] <alkisg> Dethfull: put your script to pastebin
[10:46] <k1l_> Dethfull: 1;2 means run command 1 and when that is done with any status run command 2. you can use 1&&2 which means run 2 only if 1 is exited with success
[10:46] <Dethfull> alkisg is a script inside debuggerd, this is the motive for prevent "pauses"
[10:47] <alkisg> Dethfull: can you make another very small script to show as as a demo? That only has echo and sleep inside it?
[10:48] <Dethfull> alkisg is simple: i want to kill a process.pid after 900s, without pausing the shellscript
[10:49] <alkisg> Dethfull: yes, what I said does that: ( sleep 900; kill $pid ) &
[10:49] <alkisg> That & in the end puts the sleep and the kill to the background
[10:49] <alkisg> So the next lines continue with the execution
[10:49] <Dethfull> alkisg after the & i need to put something or notn
[10:49] <alkisg> No
[10:50] <alkisg> The & means "run the previous command in the background"
[10:50] <Dethfull> ok i will try
[10:54]  * olivetree_ oi ppl :)
[10:55] <tdm4> here's the strace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23994259/
[10:55] <tdm4> I can't figure out the full recvmesg syscalls though.. they look like they get truncated
[10:55] <tdm4> it sits there doing a poll..
[10:56] <drisicus> .
[10:57] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:57] <drisicus> hi
[10:57] <B105PH3RE> hey
[10:57] <tdm4> anyon eknow why the heck upstart is just freezing? initctl log-priority debug is useless!
[10:57] <silv3r_m00n> i want to do a fresh ubuntu installation, how do i backup things from my existing ubuntu , its a desktop and i have all the desktopy things
[10:57] <drisicus> Is this a chat to solve ubuntu problems?
[10:58] <silv3r_m00n> should i just zip the home directory and put it on the secondary drive?
[10:58] <B105PH3RE> you want mostly your home directory
[10:58] <k1l_> silv3r_m00n: depends a bit what you want to keep
[10:58] <B105PH3RE> all the system files will be new on the system just copy your data over
[10:58] <silv3r_m00n> web browsing, lots of docs a few mysql databases thats all i think
[10:58] <B105PH3RE> programs will have to be reinstalled
[10:58] <B105PH3RE> mysql
[10:58] <OerHeks> drisicus, yes, you have found the channel
[10:59] <B105PH3RE> thats in the system directory
[10:59] <k1l_> silv3r_m00n: the program settings are  stored in the users home directory. that is usually what a user wants to copy. after reinstall you install the programs again and then you copy back the folders from the programs you want to have the settings back
[10:59] <drisicus> Ok, ty OerHeks. Have fun!
[10:59] <silv3r_m00n> k1l_: hmm, thats what i have been doing over the last decade
[10:59] <k1l_> well, mysql is a different animal.
[11:00] <alkisg> silv3r_m00n: there's also an option to start the live cd, then mount the old installation, then mv /* to let's say /backup, and then to install without formatting, so that you keep everything in /backup
[11:00] <silv3r_m00n> k1l_: there is a directory inside or /var/ that needs to be copied
[11:00] <silv3r_m00n> alkisg: if i wish to wipe everything, should i format or not ?
[11:00] <silv3r_m00n> its an ssd
[11:00] <k1l_> silv3r_m00n: for mysql? i dont know the "best" way to backup the databas or to export and import again.
[11:01] <alkisg> silv3r_m00n: if you have enough space, you can do the /backup trick, so that you're sure you didn't forget to backup anything. you don't need to format.
[11:01] <alkisg> silv3r_m00n: and once you moved everything you want from /backup to your new installation, then you can rm /backup
[11:01] <silv3r_m00n> all right, i think i erased mysql the last time i upgraded, nothing useful there, cool
[11:02] <silv3r_m00n> so the only thing now left is /var/www and /home
[11:02] <B105PH3RE> silv3r_m00n: just dump you mysql databases to files before you wipe
[11:02] <silv3r_m00n> B105PH3RE: dump isnt reliable, as far as i recall
[11:03] <B105PH3RE> silv3r_m00n: i've been doing it that way for years
[11:03] <B105PH3RE> either way
[11:04] <B105PH3RE> its up to you
[11:04] <silv3r_m00n> yeah, i just cleaned up mysql, felt better
[11:04] <silv3r_m00n> if everything could be on the cloud
[11:04] <silv3r_m00n> or ubuntu had been rolling release
[11:05] <B105PH3RE> i would transfer the databases to a offsite location temporarily and test it then my home directory thats about it for me I keep all my stuff in my home
[11:06] <silv3r_m00n> i have a ssd and a hdd, on the hdd i want to resize a partition to create some space for swap, is it a good idea to resize the partition using gparted ? is data loss guaranteed or is it just a normal risk
[11:06]  * alkisg uses gparted and never had issues except for moving the left side of ntfs partitions
[11:07] <tdm4> ah ha! eureka! I figured out the problem. Someone put in an upstart script in the directory that seems to have conflicted
[11:07] <silv3r_m00n> i am not going to bother myself too much, let me delete things
[11:14] <mercury200Hg> Why does the onboard (on screen keyboard) not working in ubuntu 14.04 during full-screen applications ?
[11:18] <mercury200Hg> anyone here ?
[11:21] <k1l_> mercury200Hg: are you talking about the ubuntu desktop isntall or the ubuntu-touch?
[11:22] <mercury200Hg> ubuntu desktop
[11:23] <mercury200Hg> unity 3d
[11:23] <mercury200Hg> i have also tried option to use gnome-session-fallback
[11:23] <sabbir_it> hello
[11:27] <sabbir_it> how can wifi passcode hack any one know that ? way ubuntu
[11:28] <cfhowlett> sabbir_it, no.  wrog channel
[11:28] <k1l_> sabbir_it: we dont support that illegal hacking in here.
[11:29] <k1l_> mercury200Hg: i guess the support for touchscreens get better on more recent ubuntu versions.
[11:30] <spoiae> hi
[11:30] <sabbir_it> okay@kil
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:54] <joe__> hello
 The touch screen is a part of CPU running SSD and other parts similar to that of desktop system. Will ubuntu touch install on such a system ?
[12:01] <OerHeks> mercury200Hg, about onboard keyboard, there are several options http://askubuntu.com/questions/404103/functional-onscreen-keyboard
 all i want is to appear when editing text inside a full-screen application which is currently not coming
[12:03] <RonWhoCares> I've installed Ubuntu 16.10.  I had my icons all nicely on the screen.  Then I plugged in the external monitor into my computer.  It is taller.  Now I can't see some of the short cut icons at the top.  What does a man need to do to get his icons back?
[12:05] <OerHeks> RonWhoCares, fiddle with systemsettings > displays > 'scale all window contents to match <screen>
[12:06] <OerHeks> also launcher placement can be tweaked
[12:07] <OerHeks> mercury200Hg, oh oke, set a hotkey for that > http://askubuntu.com/questions/73667/keyboard-shortcut-to-reveal-onscreen-keyboard
[12:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[12:11] <RonWhoCares> Is there a command that will make the icons position is rows - columns
[12:11] <Lavinho> good morning
[12:11] <Lavinho> i2c ubuntu ?
[12:11] <Lavinho> soudn card
[12:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RonWhoCares, which interface and which icons? just joined here
[12:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Lavinho,  just became afternoon here, so good afternoon
[12:12] <RonWhoCares> SebthreeBQM10HD: I am referring to the desktops
[12:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RonWhoCares, that doesn't mean much, since  there are lots of different interfaces that can be used
[12:13] <RonWhoCares> Shortcuts
[12:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RonWhoCares, Unity 7 is default for Ubuntu though
[12:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but that also has no desktop icons,  except for on the live session i guess, the examples folder, for example
[12:13] <RonWhoCares> I've added my own short cuts
[12:14] <RonWhoCares> I don't know how to get the setting you are asking for
[12:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok might be a way to twak it a bit for some icoins  sure
[12:14] <Lavinho> help me
[12:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RonWhoCares, your asking the question not me
[12:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I think Unity isn't that customiable
[12:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> except for with the unity tweak tool
[12:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Lavinho, with what ?
[12:15] <Lavinho> i2c card sound
[12:15] <Lavinho> ubuntu
[12:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !details
[12:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ask
[12:15] <Lavinho> no sound
[12:15] <Lavinho> no detection card
[12:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Lavinho, hmm sound card issues hm
[12:15] <RonWhoCares> ahh
[12:16] <RonWhoCares> I found what I am looking for.  Right click desktop -> Keep Aligned
[12:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Lavinho, open a terminal and  try pavucontrol,  or right coick on th wosund thing in unity I guess, and try and get sound settings up like that instead
[12:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RonWhoCares, ok nice :)
[12:16] <Lavinho> i cant installl ubuntu
[12:16] <Lavinho> linux mint only
[12:16] <RonWhoCares> I knew what I wanted, just not the words
[12:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Lavinho, uh so its not even insalled ?
[12:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Lavinho, Mint is based on UBuntu, so if that installs, ubuntu should install as well
[12:17] <Lavinho> linux mint only
[12:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Lavinho, also Mint suppport is off topic hre
[12:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> they have their own small irc network
[12:17] <OerHeks> !mint
[12:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yep that ^^^^^^^6
[12:20] <brunch875> I want to launch all my messaging programs at startup. Is there a way to do this without having them pop up?
[12:21] <brunch875> Or is this "launch to background" an application-sided feature?
[12:22] <Lavinho> help me
[12:23] <OerHeks> Lavinho, see the mint factoid, we don't support mint.
[12:23] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues.
[12:23] <Lavinho> how ot installl ubuntu o ideapad 100s 11lby
[12:24] <Lavinho> ?
[12:26] <brunch875> Lavinho, it's very easy! Just download it from ubuntu.com, put it in an usb stick, reboot with the stick plugged in and click next next next next next while reading the options
[12:26] <Lavinho> no detect
[12:26] <Lavinho> pen disk
[12:27] <Lavinho> bootia32.efi necessary
 problem still remains the same, the onboard launches but does not comes up full-screen applications
[12:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> brunch875, oh your active in here to :d
[12:27] <OerHeks> tons of howto's on the net > https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Linux-on-Ideapad-100s-11IBY/td-p/3367825
[12:28] <OerHeks> brunch875, that lenovo got 32 bit uefi, so it needs some hacking. or a new 64 bit uefi bios
[12:28] <OerHeks> anyway, Lavinho tried to install mint but changed subject to ubuntu grinn
[12:29] <Lavinho> what?
[12:29] <hateball> The way I read it is that they are able to install Mint but not Ubuntu. But then again who knows.
[12:35] <intenso_> hi, I execute the following command automatically while provisioning a maschine: sudo apt-get -q -y install iptables-persistent
[12:35] <intenso_> but 2 confirmations come in front while provisioning from iptables-persistent
[12:36] <intenso_> but I add the parameter -y to the install, which seems to be ignored. any ideas?
[12:36] <Dethfull> alkisg i hava another question:
[12:37] <Dethfull> i done this : (sleep 15 ; busybox kill -TERM `pidof app.name`; pkill app.name) &
[12:37] <Dethfull> i done this : (sleep 15 ; busybox kill -TERM `pidof app.name`; pkill app.name) &
[12:38] <Dethfull> alkisg i have another question
[12:38] <Dethfull> i done this : (sleep 15 ; busybox kill -TERM `pidof app.name`; pkill app.name) &
[12:39] <Lavinho> https://github.com/hirotakaster/baytail-bootia32.efi/blob/master/bootia32.efi
[12:39] <Dethfull> alkisg when i call the debuggerd from terminal, it works, but the debuggerd in natural state, does not executes this, is working well but onlt this not.
[12:41] <ZeroHour> i'm trying something I hadn't before and having trouble getting started or finding the needed info, running a vps with a fake/virtual x server that I can remote into ? goal is a gui I can remote into simply put
[12:42] <Gentoochild> I'm one tiny step further. Using `debian/rules build`, I can build my package sources normally. But when I use `debuild`, I get my chmod problem. Strange strange...
[12:42] <ZeroHour> I don't know if xvfb will do what I need, or if it would be easier to take some drastic measures and setup gdm for ease to run on xvfb to log into?
[12:43] <OerHeks> ZeroHour, xvfb virtual frame buffer should do
[12:44] <ZeroHour> ok thanks. Now I need to have a login/window manager running within that screen correct?
[12:59] <`slikts> hello
[12:59] <hellohello> is there a channel for 17.04 questions?
[12:59] <k1l_> hellohello: #ubuntu+1
[12:59] <hellohello> knks
[12:59] <horsewhip> Hi – has anyone had any success getting 16.04.2 have different scaling per monitor when connected to two displays with a different DPI?
[13:00] <`slikts> I installed lubuntu-desktop in 16.04, but my users are still logging in with unity, and the login screen doesn't have any option to select the DE
[13:00] <`slikts> how do I fix that?
[13:01] <k1l_> `slikts: click on the ubuntu logo near the user field
[13:01] <`slikts> k1l_: it changed the login screen, there's no logo
[13:02] <k1l_> the login screens do have a button to click to change the session
[13:02] <`slikts> it doesn't
[13:02] <`slikts> oh nvm, found it
[13:02] <`slikts> derp
[13:09] <rahul_kumi> #veras
[13:28] <Newb101> what's the best way to check the health of my ssd
[13:35] <karstenk>  Hello! Have a problem with an encrypted User dir. From an old ubuntu installation which cannot restored, I have a partition with only folders "karsten", lost+found and .ecryptfs . The size of ecryptfs is equal to the size expected for the data included. Ive already tried to decrypt the folder and can now access .ecryptfs folder. Inside there is a folder karsten and there under .ecryptfs and .Private folder. In the .Private folder, there
[13:35] <karstenk>  are a lot of data, folders and files, but they not have the original name, but something like "ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWZzWXI7sFS2vkSZFKtGTjAp2fX5Ns4H.6lD0quZyzqBTWs8JFTGt6LgTk--"  What Ive to do, to get all data with origin name back?
[13:36] <Speiros> Hi people.  Hoping your day is good.
[13:37] <Ilyas> what causes a service to start under the root user ?
[13:37] <Ilyas> eg. I've got Graylog that doesn't do that, and therefore it can't open ports <1023
[13:37] <Ilyas> im trying to learn how this generally works
[13:37] <MarcNo> karstenk, try mounting the folders with encfs ;     sudo encfs ~/.Private ~/Clear
[13:40] <maich> anyone there
[13:40] <karstenk> MarcNo your command ends in a message, which ask me if I wanted to create a new encrypted drive.
[13:41] <karstenk> I not want to destroy the data or new encryption, but restore the data.
[13:41] <MarcNo> karstenk, should prompt to create ~/Clear directory. You can mkdir it first.
[13:41] <maich> i have a question
[13:42] <karstenk> sudo encfs /media/karsten/28c44ab4-5f11-4e8b-be41-9058117ef559/.ecryptfs/karsten/.Private ~/Clear  is my command, but that ends like said above
[13:43] <Jakey3> clear
[13:43] <Jakey3> whats the best way to check my ssd for failure on ubuntu ?
[13:43] <Jakey3> can i do it while its mounted
[13:44] <OerHeks> Jakey3, check the s.m.a.r.t. status in disks
[13:45] <Speiros> ask
[13:45] <Speiros> maich If you ask your question, somebody may be able to answer it, or direct you to the appropriate place:)
[13:45] <lerner> my old 16.04 on an old notebook had 3 usb ports and if I connecter 3 encrypted external HDD the 3 of them would be recognized. My new and smaller notebook kabylake with ubuntu 16.10 and 2 usb ports can only recognize one encrypted external HDD at a time. As reasons I can think of there are: 1. ubuntu no longer accepts more than 1 encrypted external HDD at a time. 2. my encrypted SSD (in which ubuntu is installed) means it can only accept
[13:45] <lerner> one external encrypted HDD at a time. 3. Hardware is limited and can only accept one external encrypted HDD at a time. Can you help me?
[13:45] <Jakey3> OerHeks, thanks
[13:46] <OerHeks> lerner, i think your vendor should be able to answer that, hardware specs
[13:46] <lerner> ok, no ubuntu issue
[13:47] <Speiros> lerner I can run two encrypted hard drives, one external and one internal, in harmony with my normal drive too.
[13:47] <Speiros> lerner Mind you, I'm using 14.04
[13:47] <MarcNo> karstenk, try sudo encfs /media/karsten/28... ~/Clear (don't have .ecryptfs)
[13:48] <MarcNo> karstenk, and check the man page
[13:50] <karstenk> this command will ever create a new encrypted folder and ask me for specification of key etc. It seems, encfs can only mount which is created from encfs
[13:51] <karstenk> the partition is from a disk restore, which has currently ext4 filesystem
[13:51] <karstenk> and it is the standard encryption of User dir ubuntu 16.04 standard installation
[13:52] <ducasse> karstenk: you're messing with the wrong commands, afaik. encfs and ecryptfs are two different things.
[13:52] <MarcNo> karstenk, yes encfs will mount encfs created directories. My bad. ;-)
[13:53] <karstenk> so you nearly pointed me to loss my data
[13:53] <karstenk> :-)
[13:53] <karstenk> somebody other a better idea?
[13:53] <silv3r_m00n> how do i select the entire home directory for copying, including the hidden files ?
[13:54] <brunch875> silv3r_m00n, you mean ctrl-h ctrl-a ?
[13:54] <brunch875> I take it you mean on nautilus
[13:55] <silv3r_m00n> 5gb, a lot
[13:57] <vlad1777d> Hello to all. About grub
[13:57] <vlad1777d> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true are deprecated, it would be better to use < http://pastebin.com/iRpyT1cp > instead of them. The result will be the same, but without deprecated properties.
[13:58] <vlad1777d> Also os-proper breaks logic, set by /etc/default/grub in case, when  GRUB_TIMEOUT=0, because he adds to /boot/grub/grub.cfg such lines: < http://pastebin.com/Py2VD3Qt >.
[13:58] <ducasse> karstenk: try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[13:58] <akik> vlad1777d: deprecated? since when?
[13:58] <vlad1777d> Full text of my /boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://pastebin.com/QzcCfV2q
[13:59] <vlad1777d> akik, I don't know since when, but in /etc/default/grub you can find command to get help with it, in that man it was written
[13:59] <karstenk> ducasse Could not find your wrapped passphrase file
[13:59] <vlad1777d> This bug was in Vivid:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1273764
[13:59] <vlad1777d> But it was corrected already in Debian Sid (I just checked).
[13:59] <karstenk> ducase seems the right way, I have my passphrase, but not asked for, where I have to create the file?
[14:00] <vlad1777d> Can we correct it in 16.04 LTS ?
[14:00] <ducasse> karstenk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60601/unwrapping-passphrase-and-inserting-into-the-user-session-keyring-failed#107660
[14:00] <akik> vlad1777d: ok i see it. i unset both of those variables because i don't want to hide the bootup messages (they still work)
[14:01] <vlad1777d> akik, they are converted in the new-way variables, that's why they work.
[14:02] <vlad1777d> converted automatically when /boot/grub/grub.cfg is generated from /etc/boot/grub
[14:03] <vlad1777d> akik, here is more info about deprecation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1258597
[14:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[14:07] <akik> vlad1777d: do you know if this change has been made in debian too?
[14:07] <karstenk> ducasse I followed this answer, but when trying to mount, I get error cant find /media... not in /etc/fstab
[14:07] <karstenk> shoudl I integrate into it?
[14:07] <karstenk> only wanted to read the data once
[14:08] <ducasse> karstenk: i haven't got the foggiest idea, i'm just googling what you tell me ;)
[14:08] <vlad1777d> akik, yes, I checked Debian unstable's /etc/default/grub and generated /boot/grub/grub.cfg files. This bugs are absent in them
[14:08] <karstenk> ah thought you had any expierence
[14:08] <akik> vlad1777d: well i wouldn't call them a bug until the code handling the options is removed
[14:09] <ducasse> karstenk: not with ecryptfs, only used it once before deciding it wasn't worth the risk
[14:09] <Jakey3> OerHeks, do you know know what the different colums mean
[14:10] <Jakey3> value, normalised, threshold, worst type, updates, assesment?
[14:10] <Jakey3> for example type is pre fail / old -age
[14:11] <vlad1777d> akik, bug is with os_prober, with deprecated options it's not very bug )
[14:12] <tarball> hello there! how can I batch convert flv format to mp4 on terminal?
[14:13] <OerHeks> Jakey3, it is explained here, http://askubuntu.com/questions/20393/how-do-i-interpret-hdd-s-m-a-r-t-results
[14:13] <tarball> I have this command but it doesnt batch convert: ffmpeg -i filename.flv -c:v libx264 -crf 19 -strict experimental filename.mp4
[14:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[14:16] <Speiros> Hi SebthreeBQM10HD
[14:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Speiros, hi
[14:19] <tasslehoff> After upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 I can't install build-essential. http://pastebin.com/9REguKmE
[14:21] <alkisg> tasslehoff: what's the output of apt policy gcc?
[14:22] <tasslehoff> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/twxP8KLA (after I tried to uninstall gcc-4.8)
[14:23] <alkisg> tasslehoff: ok, try to install gcc first, apt install gcc
[14:24] <tasslehoff> alkisg: gcc : Depends: gcc-5 (>= 5.3.1-3~) but it is not going to be installed
[14:24] <alkisg> tasslehoff: is that the whole output? nothing else?
[14:25] <tasslehoff> alkisg: followed it down to this output http://pastebin.com/8CgiEYyz
[14:26] <tasslehoff> alkisg: I had ubuntu-toolchain-r/test on 14.04, but purged it before upgrade. something must have gone wrong there.
[14:27] <alkisg> tasslehoff: aptitude is a bit better than apt in unbreaking stuff; try aptitude install gcc and see if it proposed a sensible solution
[14:28] <tasslehoff> alkisg: seems promising!
[14:28] <BluesKaj> !aptitude
[14:28] <alkisg> Otherwise, continue with apt, e.g. "apt install libgcc1", until you pinpoint the package that causes the issue
[14:29]  * alkisg never proposes aptitude *except* for broken situations...
[14:29] <alkisg> Unfortunately apt doesn't propose solutions there, it just chokes
[14:31] <OerHeks> alkisg, that is why apt install -f exists
[14:31] <BluesKaj> i haven't had any problems with apt that aptitude can solve
[14:32] <alkisg> OerHeks: afaik it doesn't produce any errors, all the existing dependencies are fine
[14:32] <Southern_Gentlem> after all apt is the backend for aptitude
[14:32] <alkisg> tasslehoff: try with apt -f install gcc, and see if it's any better
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Southern_Gentlem, BS
[14:33] <BluesKaj> !apt
[14:34] <BluesKaj> !dpkg
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Southern_Gentlem, ^
[14:36] <tasslehoff> alkisg: aptitude solved it. apt-get -f did not
[14:36] <tasslehoff> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/1wJVH6eE
[14:36] <tasslehoff> thanks!
[14:36] <ayrus> hi, I have seen this footer http://img.vim-cn.com/1a/effb8a6ab9648cca92945822ceb7172d4b5df4.png information on terminal on Youtube video of Ubuntu channel. How can I add this to my ubuntu terminal.
[14:37] <alkisg> tasslehoff: good to know, confirms what I had already seen in the past. BluesKaj ^
[14:38] <BluesKaj> dpkg is base app for all package management in debian based systems
[14:39] <alkisg> Sure; the question was if aptitude can solve issues that apt cannot
[14:39] <OerHeks> ayrus, that text is an overlay, not a footer in terminal AFAIK
[14:39] <alkisg> (well, without manually searching for the conflict and then specifying package=downgraded-version in apt etc etc)
[14:41] <ayrus> OerHeks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hvqFfwE4u0 how can I get one like this?
[14:42] <OerHeks> ayrus, again, that text is not in terminal, it is an overlay over the movie
[14:44] <ayrus> OerHeks: when he opens the browser the overlay doesn't show. But when it switched to terminal, it starts showing. I don't know what it is. Do you know how can I can create this kind of overlay? Thanks for your help
[14:44] <OerHeks> .....
[14:49] <OerHeks> ayrus, this option has gone in 16.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/87239/how-to-i-will-add-jpg-or-gif-or-png-logo-or-emblem-in-terminal
[14:49] <OerHeks> so no footer, no pic
[15:01] <name10> Hello....Why cant i get this to work on my hetzner server ? echo IP=$(ifconfig eth0 2>/dev/null | awk '/inet addr/{print substr($2,6)}')
[15:01] <name10> it works fine with my normal installation ubuntu 16.10 at home
[15:04] <milad_> سلام. ایرانی هست؟
[15:05] <Guest60098> irani hast?
[15:05] <Guest60098> ping 192.168.1.1
[15:06] <cfhowlett> !persian
[15:06] <ducasse> name10: have you checked the interface name?
[15:07] <name10> yep eth0
[15:08] <name10> ducasse: i tryed on different servers and it work on other servers and for some reason not here :-(
[15:09] <pavlos> name10, does ifconfig give you a valid ip for that interface?
[15:11] <name10> pavlos: yes and it works find. but i just cant run that line
[15:11] <ducasse> name10: what's running on the hetzner server exactly?
[15:12] <name10> ducasse: webserver. oracle virtual box, and nothing else right now.
[15:12] <ducasse> name10: i mean os
[15:12] <name10> ducasse: ubuntu 16.10
[15:13] <ducasse> name10: odd. what happens when you run that line?
[15:13] <name10> ducasse: IP=
[15:14] <Jakey3> whats the best way to get the latest version of numpy on ubuntu
[15:15] <cfhowlett> sudo apt install numpy Jakey3
[15:15] <ducasse> name10: try 'IP=$(ifconfig eth0 2>/dev/null | awk '/inet addr/{print substr($2,6)}') ; echo $IP'
[15:15] <name10> ducasse: tryed to run same command on virtual server on server running same os and got IP=192.168.0.2
[15:17] <name10> ducasse: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[15:18] <pavlos> name10, your one-liner works with my interface, enp2s0
[15:18] <Speiros> Goodnight good people.
[15:19] <akik> name10: please pastebin "ifconfig eth0" from that non-working computer
[15:21] <name10> akik: http://pastebin.com/j2Xpf5cX
[15:21] <akik> name10: as you see that machine's output doesn't contain "inet addr:"
[15:21] <ducasse> name10: echo IP=$(ifconfig eth0 2>/dev/null | awk '/inet/{print substr($2,1)}')
[15:22] <name10> Akik yes it does i removed it :-).
[15:23] <akik> gaah
[15:24] <name10> ducasse: It works :-D
[15:24] <lerner> can I ask about fcitx here? Is ubuntus default ime
[15:25] <name10> ahh now i understand :-)
[15:25] <lerner> i need to configure sunpinyin to show only traditional chinese.
[15:25] <name10> akik: didnt understand what you told me. Your were right to :-)
[15:25] <name10> Thanks :-D
[15:26] <ducasse> name10: np.
[15:26] <cfhowlett> lerner, sounds like something the ubuntukylin team would know more about
[15:26] <snaap> كك
[15:26] <snaap> هلا
[15:30] <lerner> now that I have fcitx, how do I write german umlauts, french accents and spanish tildes?
[15:36] <ducasse> lerner: i just use compose key or dead keys for that
[15:37] <Zeeeljko> Someone knows about Hopm ?
[15:37] <Zeeeljko> I have an issues when do "make"
[15:38] <lerner> ducasse, american keyboard?
[15:38] <ducasse> lerner: nope, norwegian. you need a layout with dead keys, or enable compose key
[15:39] <lerner> european keyboards look more up to this task
[15:40] <Zeeeljko> Hey people ?
[15:40] <Guest64883> hola
[15:41] <lerner> I need to identify my keyboard. its 86 keys but keyboard model shows a 105 keys model...
[15:41] <lerner> what command can I use?
[15:42] <ducasse> lerner: afaik there is no way your keyboard can 'tell' you, you just have to choose an appropriate layout
[15:42] <UniFreak> hi. say I want to install gcc-c++, how can I know what exactly name to type with `apt-get install` ?
[15:43] <UniFreak> I'm reading some tech book, it say I need to do `yum install gcc-c++`, but I'm on ubunut so I need to install it with apt-get
[15:43] <UniFreak> but apt-get said it can't be found
[15:43] <OerHeks> !build
[15:43] <ducasse> lerner: with compose key - compose+'+a = á
[15:43] <OerHeks> UniFreak, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:44] <lerner> áéíóúàéèìòù
[15:44] <lerner> còòl
[15:44] <lerner> ǹ
[15:45] <akik> UniFreak: the package names differ from distro to distro. on ubuntu it's g++
[15:45] <lerner> `n`''aáéẃŕýjjíĺĺ'b'n ḿ
[15:45] <OerHeks> lerner, plese stop that here
[15:45] <lerner> why cant I type accents above every letter?
[15:46] <lerner> stopped
[15:46] <ducasse> lerner: look at the wikipedia page for compose key, it has a table of what you can type.
[15:47] <OerHeks> depends on your locales, i guess
[15:47] <questionmark0> hello. i just installed ubuntu on this ssd before selling the pc. how do i write over free disk space on ubuntu 16.04 lts?
[15:47] <lerner> ducasse, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/tips-specialchars.html how do I type an umlauton an american keyboard? the key for accents and umlauts is the same
[15:48] <lerner> ok, found, its going to take long to write in german
[15:48] <OerHeks> questionmark0, you should have zero-ed the hdd before installing.
[15:49] <questionmark0> OerHeks: i know, but its too late now.
[15:49] <akik> questionmark0: you can still zero the disk if you boot the live session and do it there
[15:50] <questionmark0> akik: live session? from the usb i used to install? how would i do then zero it? do i need to install a program?
[15:51] <akik> questionmark0: you can use "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1024k" (sdX is the disk)
[15:52] <questionmark0> akik: and then install ubuntu all over again?
[15:52] <akik> questionmark0: there's also the badblocks app that has a read/write test which you can use. yes you need to re-install
[15:52] <OerHeks> questionmark0, let the new owner install ubuntu, i would reinstall it anyway if i bought it from you/someone
[15:53] <cfhowlett> questionmark0, or do an oem installation
[15:53] <questionmark0> akik: OerHeks: okay, so boot from usb and then do that sudo dd if command. ill let the new owner install whatever he/she wants
[15:54] <questionmark0> akik: easiest way to figure out the disk letter? yes, im a complete idiot.
[15:54] <akik> questionmark0: sudo lsblk
[15:54] <questionmark0> akik: thanks. i need to write this all down.
[15:56] <super_nugget> hey guys =)....i cant seem to spoof my mac address on a new external usb-wifi adapter (TP-Link> tl-wn727n)..ive tried through macchanger, through the network-manager and manually by (ifconfig wlan1 hw ether  00:19:a9:00:00:01)..but theres no connection after spoofing...ive got to revert back to the burnt in mac to get a successfull connection running..
[15:56] <super_nugget> https://ghostbin.com/paste/psr6j
[15:57] <questionmark0> akik: OerHeks: thanks for the help. ill try all of that now. bye. cfhowlett: sorry, but i dont even know what that means. thanks for trying to help though. bye.
[15:57] <OerHeks> :-)
[15:57] <akik> i want to know what an oem installation is :)
[15:58] <OerHeks> akik, it is an pre-installed ubuntu install, after boot you are asked for user name and your unique password.
[15:59] <akik> OerHeks: nice. how do you install that?
[15:59] <OerHeks> super_nugget, you *have* network connection, > RX bytes:14175 (14.1 KB)  TX bytes:17852 (17.8 KB) but i guess no DNS service
[15:59] <OerHeks> akik, it is an option https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[15:59] <OerHeks> f6
[15:59] <OerHeks> or f4
[16:00] <lerner> ducasse, any idea how to write the french "ae"?
[16:00] <OerHeks> ( even with OEM i would reinstall, but that is me )
[16:03] <lavinho> good morning
[16:06] <super_nugget> hey guys =)....i cant seem to spoof my mac address on a new external usb-wifi adapter (TP-Link> tl-wn727n)..ive tried through macchanger, through the network-manager and manually by (ifconfig wlan1 hw ether  00:19:a9:00:00:01)..but theres no connection after spoofing...ive got to revert back to the burnt in mac to get a successfull connection running..
[16:07] <super_nugget> https://ghostbin.com/paste/psr6j
[16:08] <OerHeks> super_nugget, read back, seems like you have not set DNS
[16:10] <super_nugget> OerHeks: hey, i have actually..its google's dns which i inserted in the network manager..
[16:11] <OerHeks> so why do you set things manually, while you have networkmanager to do that?
[16:11] <Zewwy> interesting.... http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#id315
[16:13] <super_nugget> i tried manually and through the terminal..neither worked..im not sure what i did wrong..to be clear though..my internal nic can be spoofed just fine and im able to get a working connection..its only the external one that gives problems..
[16:13] <super_nugget> ***i tried manually through the terminal and also through the network manager
[16:16] <ducasse> lerner: isn't in in the wikipedia table? thought i'd seen it there...
[16:17] <lerner> i found it by typing randlmly
[16:19] <super_nugget> OerHeks: any idea why...?
[16:20] <super_nugget> or where i did a mistake...?
[16:21] <OerHeks> what do you mean with 'external' ? the networkcard that is connected with your internal?
[16:21] <OerHeks> or 2nd card?
[16:23] <super_nugget> im on a laptop..theres my internal nic..which is from Qualcomm..and i purchased a new usb wifi adapter for vm use..the new wifi adapter is what i refered to as the "external" nic..sry if i got the terminology wrong..
[16:24] <_UniFreak> akik: how do you know it's g++?
[16:25] <_UniFreak> is there a tool I can use to search package name like that?
[16:25] <OerHeks> super_nugget, both nics should be handled with networkmanager i guess.
[16:25] <akik> _UniFreak: you can use apt-cache search package or ubuntu's web site to search for packages
[16:26] <akik> _UniFreak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[16:27] <tim167> hello, is it possible to get absolute timestamps from /var/log/dmesg.2.gz (it only has delta timestamps afaict, relative to the time when dmesg.2.gz was created, which don't tell me when the events really occured) thanks
[16:27] <OerHeks> super_nugget, networkmanager > edit > wifi > 2nd tab > Device ...
[16:27] <Patatatatatatata> Hello?
[16:28] <super_nugget> OerHeks, yeah ive tried inserting a "cloned mac address" in network-manager but cant get a working connection after that..
[16:28] <super_nugget> once i revert back to the burnt-in mac, the connection is perfectly fine
[16:28] <akik> _UniFreak: some things you just know from experience :)
[16:28] <super_nugget> could it be a firmware thing...?a firmware that prevents spoofing macs..?
[16:29] <OerHeks> super_nugget, so what is your goal with the 2nd nic? you say vm-use ..
[16:30] <OerHeks> If that 2nd is wlan1, you have network-connection.
[16:30] <super_nugget> Oerheks, didnt get your last sentence...what do you mean..?
[16:30] <super_nugget> the 2nd is wlan1, correct..
[16:31] <super_nugget> but i tried ping-ing google, the reply was "unknown host"..
[16:32] <doug16k> what is the command to set capabilities, the same ones that getpcap shows? setcap?
[16:33] <nacc> doug16k: yes, for file capabilities?
[16:33] <OerHeks> super_nugget, oke, so you expect to have local networking on *both* nics?
[16:33] <nacc> doug16k: note you can always `man getcap` and typically will see the opposite commands in 'SEE ALSO'
[16:33] <doug16k> nacc, I think so. for example, if I wanted to set CAP_NET_ADMIN so I don't need sudo
[16:33] <doug16k> is that a "file" capability?
[16:33] <nacc> doug16k: i think you meant get_pcaps then
[16:34] <nacc> doug16k: aiui, CAP_NET_ADMIN is a process capabilitiy
[16:34] <doug16k> sorry for XY question. real question: can I set capabilities so qemu can use a bridge
[16:34] <fub> Hi. So a "dpkg -i" install failed. Now when I want to install something with apt-get, I get an error that I should first run "apt-get install -f" to fix this. Then a lot of packages should be installed.
[16:34] <fub> How can I abort this?
[16:34] <fub> I dont want to install all this packages
[16:34] <super_nugget> yeah i was thinking of setting up a server in my internal network in bridged-networking mode, on a vm..
[16:35] <super_nugget> **OerHeks*, yeah i was thinking of setting up a server in my internal network in bridged-networking mode, on a vm..
[16:35] <Zewwy> super_nugget: Thats how I have my firewall VMs setup
[16:35] <Zewwy> then all my other VMs are behind it
[16:35] <cfhowlett> fub, dpkg -r foo.deb      to purge the previous package
[16:36] <OerHeks> super_nugget, if you ping google by ip, does that work ? ping 172.217.17.46
[16:36] <fub> cfhowlett: there is an error that I need to do this by name and not by filename
[16:36] <fub> how do I get the name of this "last package"
[16:37] <Zewwy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/205937/how-can-i-disable-avahi-daemon
[16:37] <Zewwy> I can't believe nothign else worked to prevent that daemon from starting up at boot, but the last comment to remove it completely
[16:37] <Zewwy> driving me nuts
[16:37] <doug16k> nacc, ah, so "pcap" means "process" capability. what is the command to set process capabilities. setpcap is not found and bash suggest that I might have meant setcap
[16:38] <Zewwy> I awlays though pcap, was packet capture
[16:38] <doug16k> getpcap shows process capabilities, but I don't see a symmetric set
[16:38] <nacc> doug16k: `man capabilities` i think
[16:39] <cfhowlett> fub, revert the dpgk -i with the original name
[16:40] <super_nugget> OerHeks : just tried.. 1. with burnt-in mac: ping successful  2. with cloned-mac: unknown host
[16:40] <doug16k> nacc, thanks
[16:40] <super_nugget> Zewwy : Nice ;)
[16:41] <Zewwy> try opnsense
[16:41] <Zewwy> really good
[16:41] <nacc> doug16k: np, i'm not sure if there is a similar cli tool -- i think there are wrappers
[16:41] <Zewwy> I found I liked it web UI a lot more than pfsense
[16:41] <Zewwy> seemed more intuitive
[16:42] <super_nugget> Zewwy : thanks :)..sure will give it a try!
[16:43] <super_nugget> OerHeks  : thanks for helping bud..its a bummer especially since its a petty thing..
[16:44] <fub> so the package I want to remove seems to be "broken" because when doing and dpkg -r or apt-get remove, I get an error which executiong the post-removal-skript
[16:45] <fub> how do I fix this?
[16:45] <Zewwy> i thought there was a fix-broken sub command in apt-get
[16:46] <nacc> Zewwy: -f
[16:46] <Zewwy> fub maybe that ^
[16:46] <fub> using "f" does not change anything
[16:46] <fub> still an error from dpkg
[16:46] <Zewwy> did you run apt-get update first?
[16:46] <fub> no, why?
[16:47] <fub> it's a removal, not an installation
[16:47] <fub> same after apt-get update
[16:47] <nacc> fub: you'll need to pass a flag to dpkg to tell it to ignore that failure
[16:47] <fub> nacc: which flag?
[16:47] <nacc> fub: and, since i just saw, why did you manually install a pakage?
[16:47] <nacc> fub: looking
[16:47] <fub> nacc: I needed to download a package which was not in the repos
[16:48] <nacc> fub: which one and where did you download it from?
[16:48] <fub> capanalysis, dont know where I got it from, it was some weeks ago
[16:49] <nacc> fub: you ould try `dpkg -r --force-all <pkgname>`. I would recommend running with --dry-run to see what it will do.
[16:49] <geosmin2> assuming a windows 10 laptop with a shrunk windows partition and 150gb of free space, how reliable is putting ubuntu on that second partition and being confident windows will still be bootable?
[16:49] <nacc> fub: um, *never* install a .deb you don't trust.
[16:49] <nacc> fub: that's a very bad and dangerous choice to make.
[16:49] <geosmin2> s/free/empty
[16:50] <hello-world> ..........................................................
[16:50] <fub> nacc: same as before
[16:50] <fub> the error why dpkg fails is this:
[16:50] <nacc> fub: please use a pastebin and show the ccommand and output
[16:51] <fub> /var/lib/dpkg/info/capanalysis.postrm: 28: /var/lib/dpkg/info/capanalysis.postrm: apache2ctl: not found
[16:51] <nacc> fub: do not paste it in the channel, please
[16:51] <fub> https://dpaste.de/QjnX
[16:52] <koleygr> geosmin2: 50GB are enough to install ubuntu and ubuntu doesn't delete windows if you don't choose to delete it during installation... It gives the option to boot on win or ubuntu when the pc starts
[16:53] <nacc> fub: you could (technically) remove that file (capanalysis.postrm) and it should ocntinue. Note the reason you're in this state is you used dpkg to install, so no deps (presumablyapache is a dep) were installed. You should use apt or gdebi.
[16:53] <geosmin2> koleygr: yup, but i'd just like to be 100% sure windows will be bootable
[16:53] <super_nugget> geosmin2 : assuming its a standard installation(which you follow the instructions properly,especially during the partitioning phase), windows will still be bootable..for sure..150gb is a lot though..like koleygr mentioned, 50gb is probably more than enough since its just a secondary OS..
[16:53] <geosmin2> hmm, i don't see why not, grub will just point to sda1 so if something breaks it'll be grub and that's easy to fix...
[16:53] <Dreaman> geosmin2  add part and install ubuntu i use swap part  boot an root
[16:54] <fub> nacc: fixed it, thanks
[16:54] <Dreaman> an use dual boot win10 ubuntu 17.04 alpha 2
[16:54] <hanshenrik> the debbian netboot kernel has this kernel boot parameter called `debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated
[16:54] <hanshenrik> ` , which, if true, does not require package repos to be signed to use it during installation
[16:54] <geosmin2> i assume that at no time does the installer write to the windows partition, except to disable the boot flag maybe (hmm, does it even do that?)
[16:55] <hanshenrik> does the ubuntu installer kernel have something like it?  and if so, what is it called? debian-installer   or ubuntu-installer  or something else?
[16:55] <Zewwy> fub: this is why snapshots and backups are important :P
[16:55] <Zewwy> backout steps
[16:55] <fub> Zewwy: snapshots of what?
[16:55] <fub> of the whole system?
[16:55] <Zewwy> if its a vm
[16:55] <fub> no, it's not a vm
[16:55] <Zewwy> then backups
[16:55] <Dreaman> geosmin2  manual part in hdd for ubuntu add
[16:56] <Dreaman> and install
[16:56] <hanshenrik> according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[16:56] <hanshenrik> its probably called debian-installer/  , even in ubuntu
[16:56] <super_nugget> geosmin2 : during the partitioning phase, you'll be using the "free space" for creating the Ubuntu OS filesystem..nothing to do with the Windows partitions..
[16:58] <Dreaman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23995697/  geosmin2  my old pc :)
[16:58] <super_nugget> but you have to be sure you select the "free space" rather than a "Windows" partition..thats the important part..if its ur first time installing linux, why not try on a virtual machine first..?
[16:58] <geosmin2> super_nugget, been running arch for 4 years but this is a work pc :)
[16:58] <super_nugget> ahh i see :)
[16:59] <geosmin2> should probably just do a filezilla clone of the whole drive before fucking with it though
[16:59] <geosmin2> something something shared production machine
[16:59] <super_nugget> hell of a good idea..lol..saves a whole lot of time if, by a remote chance something bad happens..
[17:00] <super_nugget> and also prepare a windows recovery drive on a separate stick..
[17:02] <BadCodSmell> With the latest ubuntu I can no longer connect x11vnc to the main display... x11vnc -display :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -shared (matches Xorg in ps), it simply says no protocol specified. Worked with the previous version.
[17:03] <johnny4shoe> hi does anyone know what to do in the case where you have windows 10 OS installed on a laptop and bios is set to UEFI mode
[17:03] <super_nugget> but i still dont think any unforeseen event would happen..if i were you though, allocate 50gb for the ubuntu partition..and just leave the balance unallocated/free space as it is..that way if you need to expand Windows OS later on, you could do that..or you could expand Ubuntu later on..depends..;)
[17:03] <johnny4shoe> but you want to dual boot ubuntu and cant get grub to work after installing
[17:03] <super_nugget> *geosmin2
[17:04] <hanshenrik> BadCodSmell, is there a /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 ?
[17:04] <BadCodSmell> There is
[17:04] <hanshenrik> weird
[17:05] <BadCodSmell> ugh
[17:05] <BadCodSmell> I found out why catting the file.
[17:06] <BadCodSmell> I think anyway. I just installed, made the name ox1 instead of box1, changed it in hostname, the magic cookie uses the hostname and has the old, my ssh session has the new hostname
[17:06] <BadCodSmell> I guess a reboot should do the trick
[17:06] <BadCodSmell> thanks
[17:06] <johnny4shoe> Does anyone know what to do if you have Win10 installed (UEFI) and want to dual boot Ubuntu
[17:07] <johnny4shoe> Do I have to change bios mode to legacy and re-install win10/ubuntu?
[17:07] <BadCodSmell> Surely you can google that one
[17:07] <BadCodSmell> That's what I would do if I were going to answer you.
[17:08] <charlie_sanders> johnny4shoe, you should be able to yes, I have a UEFI dual boot win10 and ubuntu
[17:08] <johnny4shoe> I have googled and see mixed responses
[17:08] <johnny4shoe> Otherwise I wouldnt have went on IRC BadCodSmell
[17:08] <BadCodSmell> It's normally only some kind of safe boot you have to turn off but UEFI should otherwise be generic.
[17:08] <johnny4shoe> charlie_sanders i installed ubuntu and grub wouldnt show on uefi
[17:08] <super_nugget> johnny4shoe : try using "universal usb installer"..ive never had problems creating a stick with ubuntu using that..
[17:09] <johnny4shoe> i used rufus, it had an option for GPT partition for EUFI
[17:10] <koleygr> johny4shoe: some people prefer legacy mode... I use legacy with gpt partition table for my multiboot system
[17:11] <johnny4shoe> koleygr i would have switched to legacy mode but i dont want to have to reinstall win10
[17:12] <super_nugget> sometimes its a folder naming issue..ur stick should contain the directory "EFI/Boot/BOOTX64.EFI" and "EFI/Boot/GRUBX64.EFI" with those exact names
[17:12] <vfw> MS Windows wourks nicely in VM.
[17:12]  * olivetree_ Be Right Back 
[17:13] <BadCodSmell> ugh /usr/bin/gufw-pkexec: line 13:  3390 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) python3 ${LOCATIONS[${i}]} $1
[17:13] <BadCodSmell> ubuntu releases are never stable these days
[17:13] <ikonia> in what way ?
[17:13] <ikonia> they are pretty stable as a rule of thumb
[17:14] <BadCodSmell> used to be
[17:14] <ikonia> they are not
[17:14] <ikonia> now
[17:14] <ikonia> they are solid still
[17:14] <super_nugget> my kali didnt boot into uefi because it was missing a file grub.cfg..but for ubuntu, as i far as i know theres only two needed i.e BOOTX64.EFI, GRUBX64..
[17:14] <super_nugget> my kali didnt boot into uefi because it was missing a file grub.cfg..but for ubuntu, as i far as i know theres only two needed i.e BOOTX64.EFI, GRUBX64.EFI..
[17:14] <BadCodSmell> Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket I think it's mixing up mir and x11 or something
[17:14] <Dreaman> BadCodSmell  my alpha is stable
[17:14] <Dreaman> :)
[17:14] <ikonia> super_nugget: we don't support kali here
[17:15] <returnthis> hi, when I press Ctrl+Alt+F1  I no longer get a login prompt. How do I enable that again?
[17:15] <BadCodSmell> Is 16.10 just Xorg or somehow Xorg+Mir hybrid?
[17:15] <ikonia> BadCodSmell: what is failing to connect ?
[17:15] <BadCodSmell> gufw
[17:15] <super_nugget> ikonia: thanks for your input..
[17:15] <koleygr> johnny4shoe: I think you can not make windows to run in legacy mode if they are installed on UEFI... So, you have to try UEFI for ubuntu too... but I can not help you with that
[17:16] <ikonia> BadCodSmell: looks like it's a bug with gufw, rather than ubuntu
[17:16] <ikonia> BadCodSmell: couple of bugs logged against it, debian too
[17:16] <ducasse> how can i tell which block device ata10.00 from dmesg corresponds to?
[17:18] <koleygr> johnny4shoe you could try bootrepairdisk if you failed to start grub after UEFI installation.... It helps many times
[17:21] <junixbr> hi there, have somebody seen systemd (ubuntu 16.04) restart postfix service each second?
[17:21] <junixbr> clean installation
[17:21] <ikonia> junixbr: yes, if the config is wrong it will keep trying and fine
[17:21] <ikonia> fail
[17:21] <junixbr> it is a clean installation
[17:21] <ioria> ducasse, not sure, maybe this http://superuser.com/questions/617192/mapping-ata-device-number-to-logical-device-name
[17:22] <ikonia> junixbr: have you configured postfix
[17:22] <junixbr> nop
[17:22] <junixbr> as I said, clean installation
[17:22] <ikonia> junixbr: then configure it
[17:22] <OerHeks> junixbr, then it does what you ask it to.
[17:22] <ikonia> and read the startup log to see why it's restarting
[17:22] <junixbr> ikonia: seriously ?
[17:23] <sickshrink> hey people . I'd like to report a bug? I'm new to this.
[17:23] <OerHeks> !bug
[17:24] <sickshrink> Can i just explain it here first?
[17:24] <ikonia> junixbr: yes
[17:24] <ducasse> ioria: thanks, that oneliner under the answer goes straight into my notes :)
[17:25] <ioria> ducasse, hehehe
[17:25] <OerHeks> sickshrink, sure, go ahead
[17:26] <junixbr> ikonia: done, I’ve got the same behaviour
[17:26] <junixbr> in postfix check: warning: group or other writable: /usr/lib/postfix/./libpostfix-util.so.1
[17:26] <junixbr> is this a Ubuntu package bug?
[17:26] <OerHeks> sickshrink, start with what ubuntu version, 32/64 bit etc
[17:28] <BadCodSmell> junixbr it doesn't look like a bug on face value. It's more like, well you shouldn't have /./ because it's pointless and while that perm is excessive it *normally* wouldnt cause an issue
[17:28] <sickshrink> Okay.. So i'm running ubuntu 16.04 lts. Using the unity tweak tool i set the top left corner of my screen a hot corner (specifically to window spread). However , I've noticed that every time i restart my system that particular hotcorner doesn't work.
[17:29] <BadCodSmell> junixbr: but there is nothing in that warning that would be an error on its own without another factor coming into play
[17:29] <dontknow> hi! is kubuntu's font rendering good?
[17:29] <nicomachus> dontknow: yes. the ubuntu family is pretty well known for having good font rendering.
[17:30] <kobhar> how do I install boost 1.62 (or 1.63) on Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS? The latest in the repo is 1.58 and I have backports enabled
[17:30] <dontknow> nicomachus, yes i know how good ubuntu font rendering but i was wondering kubuntu's
[17:30] <nicomachus> dontknow: same font.
[17:30] <nicomachus> !info boost xenial
[17:30] <nicomachus> kobhar: does it have another name?
[17:30] <DJones> dontknow: All ubuntu flavours use the same font base, so  should be the same
[17:30] <kobhar> libboost
[17:31] <kobhar> I only have libboost1.58-dev
[17:31] <nicomachus> !info libboost xenial
[17:31] <kobhar> I want libboost1.62-dev
[17:31] <nacc> kobhar: it's only in zesty (17.04)
[17:31] <nacc> !latest | kobhar
[17:31] <kobhar> how do I install from zesty's repo?
[17:31] <nacc> kobhar: you don't.
[17:31] <ioria> junixbr, maybe  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=832576
[17:31] <nacc> kobhar: do not mix releases.
[17:32] <devslash> If I forgot the disk password for my encrypted Ubuntu VM am I SOL ?
[17:32] <sfdebug> hi, i frequently have a problem on Ubuntu that is: when i lock the system, the password box start to be filled and it freezes in a way that i can't login on system again... obs.: the problem is not my keyboard...
[17:32] <kobhar> boost 1.63 is the latest stable version of boost
[17:32] <nacc> kobhar: read the ubottu msg above, please.
[17:33] <DJones> kobhar: Looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=yakkety&section=all&arch=any&keywords=libboost&searchon=names looks like the latest version is 1.6/1.61 for the various derivatives of libboost
[17:34] <nacc> DJones: that's because you searched specificall on yakkety
[17:34] <DJones> kobhar: And thats with 16.10
[17:34] <kobhar> nacc: thanks
[17:34] <BadCodSmell> the one thing I like about ubuntu at least that to stop the screen from sleeping I only have to now go to the settings, brightness/lock and turn it off.
[17:34] <nacc> DJones: zesty has the latest, but only zesty, as normal
[17:34] <DJones> nacc: See above
[17:36] <kobhar> DJones: I don't see 1.61 either
[17:36] <tjsimmons> An
[17:36] <DJones> kobhar: If you're using 17.04 it may be worth asking in #ubuntu+1 they may be able to help, but I suspect it won't backported to 16.04/16.10
[17:37] <sfdebug> hi, i frequently have a problem on Ubuntu that is: when i lock the system, the password box start to be filled and it freezes in a way that i can't login on system again... obs.: the problem is not my keyboard... does anyone have any idea?
[17:38] <kobhar> DJones: if 1.61 is in Ubuntu 16.10, then it should be available in backports for 16.04, am I correct?
[17:38] <nacc> kobhar: no
[17:38] <DJones> kobhar: No
[17:38] <kobhar> thanks
[17:40] <kobhar> thanks for your help nacc and DJones. Have a nice day
[17:43] <tcorneli> my software center is stuck; how do i proceed?
[17:43] <yoni> oni
[17:44] <junixbr> the systemd behaviour: http://dpaste.com/3KVREGQ
[17:44] <junixbr> I’m trying to understand what is happening here
[17:49] <k1l_> tcorneli: stuck means?
[17:50] <antoronda> hola
[17:50] <sfdebug> hi, i frequently have a problem on Ubuntu that is: when i lock the system, the password box start to be filled and it freezes in a way that i can't login on system again... obs.: the problem is not my keyboard... does anyone have any idea?..... an image: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=a24e0a9
[17:51] <antoronda> algun español por aqui
[17:51] <nacc> !es | antoronda
[17:51] <Pici> !es | antoronda
[17:51] <nacc> Pici: ^5 :)
[17:51] <tcorneli> k1l_: when i go to Installed or Updates it just keeps spinning
[17:52] <k1l_> tcorneli: how long did you wait there?
[17:52] <Zabot> I installed server 16.04 and was able to finish the install as normal, but I don't have any display. It displays the boot logs, but than as soon as you would expect to see the login prompt, the display turns off.
[17:53] <Zabot> I've tried nomodeset and the relevant GRUB options, but I didn't have any success
[17:53] <enyc> Zabot: hrrm and no kepboard makes it up?
[17:54] <enyc> Zabot: more to the point, does alt+sysrq+s then alt+sysrq+u then alt+sysrq+b  reboot it  in that state?
[17:54] <Zabot> I don't know, let me try it
[17:54] <Zabot> Yes
[17:55] <k1l_> Zabot: can you reach it on ssh?
[17:55] <Zabot> I could until I borked the network config I was setting up -_-
[17:55] <Zabot> Hence the needing local display
[17:57] <tcorneli> k1l_: i think it has been about half an hour; i started the updates; when they finished they got back to the the status Install, when i tried to remove a package using the terminal, i couldn't because of a lock (presumably because the updates weren't finished); i closed the software center, waited a bit and after i opened it got stuck; at that point the lock seemed to have vanished, but software center is still stuck
[17:57] <tcorneli> now my mouse is stuck too :)
[17:59] <ioria> Zabot, recovery mode ?
[18:00] <tcorneli> k1l_: can i safely kill aptd?
[18:00] <k1l_> tcorneli: no
[18:00] <Zabot> No on the recovery mode. I do have a bootable partition on the drive that was the previous version that still boots fine
[18:01] <k1l_> (i dont like the gnome-software, its making a lot more issues than the old one)
[18:01] <k1l_> tcorneli: is apt or dpkg still running?
[18:01] <tcorneli> k1l_: how about the mouse? i can move the cursor, but clicks or scrolling don't work
[18:01] <tcorneli> k1l_: yes
[18:01] <Zabot> kli_: I've actually gotta run to class, I'll be back in an hour if you're still on.
[18:02] <k1l_> tcorneli: hmm, that should not be the same issue :/
[18:02] <tcorneli> k1l_: sorry, at the moment apt and dpkg are not running
[18:03] <tcorneli> k1l_: i didn't kill anything though
[18:04] <k1l_> can you close the software center?
[18:04] <tcorneli> k1l_: i started software center again, still stuck, and apt and dpkg not running
[18:04] <tcorneli> k1l_: closing it is no problem
[18:05] <effectnet> hi, could i move my ~Downloads directory to another drive?
[18:05] <effectnet> is that a symlink?
[18:06] <k1l_> tcorneli: close software center, then remove the ls -al .local/share/gnome-software/install-queue
[18:06]  * olivetree_ Back :)
[18:07] <tcorneli> k1l_: so such file or directory
[18:07] <k1l_> tcorneli: what ubuntu is that?
[18:07] <OerHeks> effectnet, edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs ( after you created the new folders)
[18:08] <tcorneli> k1l_: 16.04, LTS
[18:13] <sfdebug> hi, i frequently have a problem on Ubuntu that is: when i lock the system, the password box start to be filled and it freezes in a way that i can't login on system again... obs.: the problem is not my keyboard... does anyone have any idea?..... an image: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=a24e0a9
[18:14] <k1l_> tcorneli: you do have a .local/share/gnome-software/ ?
[18:14] <tcorneli> k1l_: y
[18:14] <k1l_> tcorneli: with ubuntu-reviews.db in it?
[18:15] <tcorneli> k1l_: y
[18:16] <tcorneli> k1l_: even though i could close the software center, it's still running as a process
[18:18] <k1l_> tcorneli: then kill the process
[18:19] <tcorneli> k1l_: done, do i start it again?
[18:19] <k1l_> i would run sudo apt update first
[18:20] <tcorneli> k1l_: everything is up to date
[18:21] <tcorneli> k1l_: software center is fine now
[18:21] <tcorneli> k1l_: thanks!
[18:23] <caene> I'm having this weird issue.. when I alt-tab to another window/program in Ubuntu, I get this little freeze for half a second. Like, everything freezes graphically. Any ideas?
[18:23] <caene> Audio is fine.
[18:26] <koleygr> caene do you use unity?
[18:26] <koleygr> or gnome?
[18:28] <effectnet> thx OerHeks
[18:29] <caene> koleygr: I use unity
[18:31] <koleygr> I had a similar problem with gnome and I had to install proprietary drivers for gpu
[18:31] <koleygr> caene ^
[18:32] <koleygr> But wait for someone else to answer for unity... It would be good to say what gpu you have and what drivers you use
[18:36] <caene> koleygr: I'm using the latest proprietary drivers for my GPU. I guess I could try out a eariler driver.
[18:37] <koleygr> caene: wait for someone more experienced than me... Usually the latest drivers are better... I don't know if earlier drivers could help...
[18:40] <sfdebug> hi, i frequently have a problem on Ubuntu that is: when i lock the system, the password box start to be filled and it freezes in a way that i can't login on system again... obs.: the problem is not my keyboard... does anyone have any idea?..... an image: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=a24e0a9
[18:41] <k1l_> sfdebug: that is very uncommon. are you sure its not a keyboard issue?
[18:41] <ioria> sfdebug, and  you already tried another keyboard  for a while ?
[18:42] <energizer> Looks like I can only ssh into my computer if I am already logged into the desktop session already. Is that normal?
[18:42] <k1l_> energizer: no
[18:42] <sfdebug> k1l_, it isn't keyboard because i never had this problem using the system...
[18:42] <caene> koleygr: alright! I appreciate your help though.
[18:42] <sfdebug> ioria, it is not ever that it occurs, just some times...
[18:42] <k1l_> sfdebug: you never had this issues doesnt say its not the keyboard now.
[18:42] <ioria> sfdebug,  things broke
[18:43] <ioria> *break
[18:43] <sfdebug> but why i haven't problem with keyboard using the operating system that is the most part of the time...?
[18:44] <sfdebug> the problem is ever on lock screen....
[18:44] <energizer> k1l_: oh i guess its because my home dir is encrypted so it cant access the authorized keys
[18:45] <energizer> k1l_: dont know how to solve this
[18:45] <ioria> sfdebug,  idk then ... had the same problem  with an old ps/2 keyboard
[18:46] <sfdebug> ioria, hum...
[18:46] <ioria> sfdebug,  change the usb port
[18:47] <sfdebug> ioria, it isn't usb...
[18:47] <ioria> sfdebug,  wifi
[18:47] <koleygr> caene: I see some similar issues in old versions of ubuntu... What version do you use... It was a bug on Oneiric
[18:48] <ioria> sfdebug,  don't tell me is ps/2 ?
[18:49] <PCatinean> can anyone please tell me how I can specify the ssh key to be used when I try to make a git clone?
[18:50] <nacc> PCatinean: usually you configure ssh properly and then it should just work -- are you needing to use a key not tied to your user?
[18:50] <nacc> PCatinean: you probably will need to set GIT_SSH or GIT_SSH_COMMAND
[18:53] <sfdebug> ioria, yes, it is...
[18:53] <akik> PCatinean: it's the -i option in ssh client if that helps
[18:53] <sfdebug> ioria, but all the keyboards of the ppl here on work is the same...
[18:53] <sfdebug> ioria, and no body had the problem i have...
[18:54] <sfdebug> ioria, note: just i use ubuntu...
[18:54] <ioria> sfdebug,  easy to test: use another keyboard and (if issue persists) come back here
[18:55] <sfdebug> ioria, ok...
[18:55] <sfdebug> ioria, i'll do that..
[18:56] <ioria> sfdebug,  consider that the ps/2 port itself can be damaged... so use a usb kb
[18:56] <caene> koleygr: I'm currently on 16.04
[18:56] <sfdebug> ioria, yep... thanks :-)
[18:56] <ioria> no prob
[18:57] <caene> koleygr: and I'm currently using NVIDIA proprietary 367.57.
[18:59] <OerHeks> caene, what nvidia exactly?
[19:00] <caene> OerHeks: nothing new or fancy, I'm using a Gigabyte 660
[19:02] <OerHeks> oh oke, then that 367 should work ..
[19:03] <caene> I mean, it works. But I'm just having this one tiny issue. If I alt-tab between programs, the entire OS will freeze for half a second.
[19:03] <OerHeks> You might want to check out nvidia settings manager, to see if you can do some tweaking
[19:03] <OerHeks> not sure myself what option you could try
[19:04] <caene> Yeah, I'll try to mess around in the settings manager I guess.
[19:11] <rek>  hello err.. i don't see any cursor except when i go over icons or a field that has to be filled with text and so on... how can i fix the problem of the missing arrow? how can i install and use a new theme?maybe it will fix the problem (i should use lxapparence to set the new theme)
[19:13] <koleygr> caene: if you try and do not find a solution try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296294/alt-tab-crashes-gnome-classic-desktop-12-04
[19:14] <koleygr> It may help in unity too
[19:16] <OerHeks> lxappearance means lxde
[19:16] <OerHeks> rek, sure that theme is suitable?
[19:17] <OerHeks> rek, and did you check for graphic drivers?
[19:21] <z1haze_work> I am trying to install the php-mhash extension but i cannot locate it with apt. can anyone please assist. im having the same issue with the openssl extension
[19:24] <z1haze_work> looks like php-fpm pulled in the openssl extension but still nothing for mhash
[19:24] <Pici> z1haze_work: It should be provided with your php -common package.
[19:24] <rek> OerHeks, what do you mean... yeah it its default theme
[19:24] <z1haze_work> its not showing up in php -m
[19:24] <Pici> z1haze_work: or as part of php-fpm
[19:24] <z1haze_work> i have php7.0-common and php7.0-fpm
[19:25] <effectnet> hi what's the best way to install samba?  im on the new 16.10 yakkety
[19:25] <z1haze_work> this is the last extension thats required of course its going to be a pain!
[19:25] <Pici> z1haze_work: oh, 7.0, let me check my other server.
[19:25] <compdoc> effectnet, just sudo apt install samba
[19:25] <effectnet> thx ok compdoc
[19:26] <z1haze_work> thank you
[19:26] <compdoc> effectnet, then you need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to set the workgroup name, and any shares you need
[19:27] <effectnet> yeah im reading that now, ok
[19:31] <Pici> z1haze_work: You may want to ask ##php, It looks like mhash might not be part of the core php7 distribution anymore, and their documentation is rather unhelpful: http://php.net/manual/en/mhash.requirements.php
[19:31] <z1haze_work> oh alright
[19:32] <imbezol> after upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04 i get a prompt during boot to enter my passphrase for my encrypted swap partition. after failing to answer correctly it fails the service, boots, but has no swap mounted
[19:32] <imbezol> when i look at my fstab i see two entries for swap
[19:33] <imbezol> one is my normal lvm swap partition, the other is a cryptswap partition
[19:33] <imbezol> any hints on how to get back to just one, and fix it so that it's encrypted?
[19:34] <OerHeks> imbezol, encrypted swap is nice, if you don't hybernate/sleep
[19:35] <OerHeks> imbezol, so you had a reason to make a regular swap?
[19:35] <imbezol> OerHeks: if you do, does it cause problems?
[19:35] <imbezol> OerHeks: i'm not even sure.. i did the install on this thing ages ago
[19:35] <OerHeks> yes, the key stored in swap cannot be read.
[19:35] <effectnet> compdoc, thank you, wow how nice when sometthing goes smoothly :D
[19:35] <OerHeks> So i guess, you want the regular swap.
[19:35] <imbezol> OerHeks: ah. it's a laptop that i sleep often so best not to use encrypted swap then
[19:36] <effectnet> i forgot to restart samba too, still worked
[19:36] <BadCodSmell> How do I get normal menus in ubuntu rather than the flawed Mac global menus?
[19:36] <OerHeks> imbezol, now your issue, you need to enter the right passphrase.,.
[19:36] <imbezol> OerHeks: if i'm not going to use it, do i care?
[19:36] <imbezol> i can just delete it, no?
[19:37] <OerHeks> imbezol, if you don't need swap ( 8gb+ ?) you can leave it as it is, sure
[19:37] <imbezol> OerHeks: i do want swap, but don't need it to be encrypted
[19:39] <coajaxial> Hello, is there someone who can explain me a little bit about how to modify a package by downloading its sources via apt and compile it on my own?
[19:40] <nacc> coajaxial: probably a better question for #ubuntu-devel, but folks are probably a bit busy with the 17.04 feature freeze this week (just fyi)
[19:40] <k1l_> BadCodSmell: look at the systemsettings, appearance
[19:40] <coajaxial> :| Its not about the developement itself, more about apt
[19:41] <k1l_> coajaxial: enable the sources repo then run apt-get source packagename. but changing and compiling you need to do on your own then that cant do apt
[19:42] <k1l_> and apt-get build-dep packagename might be needed too
[19:43] <nacc> coajaxial: what do you mean?
[19:43] <nacc> coajaxial: what k1l_ said is sufficient, i thnk
[19:43] <nacc> coajaxial: also you may want `pull-lp-source`
[19:44] <john> hola
[19:44] <nacc> coajaxial: but i'm not sure how it's about apt -- apt only gets you the sources, it doesn't build anything
[19:44] <john> s
[19:44] <coajaxial> I already compiled my own package (mate-panel in this case), and created a new package version and got my deb file (exactly, it compiled into multiple .deb files) and installed them via dpkg -i *.deb . But now i dont know how to return to the original package from ubuntu repositories :/
[19:44] <Guest50454> hola
[19:44] <nacc> coajaxial: the better way to do what you did is to use a PPA and then you can easily purge the PPA
[19:44] <nacc> coajaxial: you will probably have to specify a version (did you correctly chagne the version in your local pacakge)?
[19:44] <nacc> coajaxial: specify a version to apt, that is
[19:45] <Jarour> i need help
[19:45] <idunham> question - vsftpd trying to add user to connect via filezilla.
[19:45] <Jarour> i can phpmysql
[19:45] <idunham>  Login Incorrect
[19:45] <coajaxial> I did change the version, yes, I even labeled it with my nickname (something like 1.16.1-coajaxial1)
[19:45] <idunham> I get login incorrect, even though the password is correct
[19:47] <nacc> !pm | coajaxial
[19:47] <k1l_> coajaxial: look at apt policy packagename for the versions. then you can specify the version on apt install
[19:48] <nacc> k1l_: good suggestion!
[19:48] <coajaxial> ok, sec.
[19:48] <nacc> coajaxial: one will say it is from dpkg, which is the only installed locally; pick the version from the repository
[19:49] <BadCodSmell> How do I get a menu in my application in ubuntu using X11 forwarding?
[19:50] <BadCodSmell> My menu is gone
[19:51] <coajaxial> ok, it seems like i already removed it somehow, apt policy tells me 1.16.1-1~xenial4.0 is installed for mate-panel.
[19:52] <coajaxial> looking on my history, i did this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mate-panel
[19:52] <marekw2143> hello
[19:52] <coajaxial> but shouldnt that just reinstall the modified deb file?
[19:53] <nacc> coajaxial: well, taht's not ubuntu, so can't really say
[19:53] <marekw2143> maybe here is somebody who knows how to install HP 840c on ubuntu ?
[19:53] <nacc> coajaxial: what was the exact version you used in your local pacakge
[19:54] <nacc> coajaxial: the ordering matters significantly
[19:54] <nacc> coajaxial: --reinstall installs the latest, based upon what apt knows
[19:54] <coajaxial> its ubuntu mate, but thats not relevant, its the version from the original repositories (i labaled my version with "coajaxial")
[19:54] <nacc> coajaxial: no, there is no such versioned mate-panel in ubuntu, so it's absolutely relevant.
[19:56] <coajaxial> ok, to give you more information: I followed this blog post from ubunut mate to upgrade the mate desktop packages: https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/mate-desktop-116-for-xenial-xerus/
[19:57] <coajaxial> thats how i got the 1.16.1-1~xenial4.0 version of mate-panel
[19:58] <nacc> coajaxial: ok, so a PPA
[19:58] <coajaxial> ohhhh, wait a second
[19:58] <nacc> coajaxial: but again, what *exact* version did you make your pacakge?
[19:59] <coajaxial> yes, there is the problem: apt-get source downloaded the 1.12 version
[19:59] <coajaxial> to be exact, 1.12.2
[19:59] <nacc> coajaxial: yes, PPAs don't provide source typically
[20:01] <coajaxial> ok, ok, but there is still a question: after i compiled and tagged my custom build (mate-panel_1.12.2-1coajaxial1_amd64.deb), why did dpkg -i install that version? I mean its lower than the current version known by apt?
[20:02] <nacc> coajaxial: what do you mean? `dpkg -i /path/to/.deb` installed the version you told it to
[20:02] <humoroustwo> Hello
[20:02] <coajaxial> or will it force an installation of that specific version even if there is a greater version installed?
[20:02] <nacc> coajaxial: dpkg does not know what apt is
[20:03] <pringles2> hey guys... kinda new to Ubuntu and think I may have messed something up but not sure... in my /home/john folder, doing "ls -ahl" shows the ".." (previous directory) as being owned by root... that should be user, right?
[20:03] <coajaxial> oh, ok. I guess I really need some more information about apt, dpkg, etc. Maybe you could give me some resources? :)
[20:04] <humoroustwo> I removed the default libreoffice install, and installed LO 5.3, but the original is still on my programs list and is the default program
[20:04] <coajaxial> pringles2: no, /home is owned by root
[20:04] <k1l_> pringles2: no
[20:04] <pringles2> ok thank you coajaxial... I just noticed it for some reason and thought I messed itup
[20:04] <humoroustwo> I've tried aptget clean and purge, and only one copy of libreoffice can be seen in the software centre
[20:04] <effectnet> hi does flash work on in chromium on this 16.10 yakkety?
[20:04] <humoroustwo> *clean and autoremove
[20:05] <k1l_> humoroustwo: how did you install it?
[20:05] <nacc> coajaxial: dpkg -i installs a specific .deb
[20:05] <effectnet> chromium keeps saying "right-click to run adobe flash" in the browser
[20:05] <k1l_> humoroustwo: try to relogin to get path and .dsktop files be updated again
[20:05] <nacc> coajaxial: i'm not sure what's confusing about that
[20:05] <k1l_> effectnet: isntall the adobe flash pacakge
[20:06] <effectnet> ok from their website?  yeah i installed the pepper
[20:06] <effectnet> so , ok
[20:06] <k1l_> effectnet: no.
[20:06] <effectnet> oh
[20:06] <humoroustwo> k1l_: Bearing in mind it still actually opens the older version. I installed 5.3 by downloading the archive from their website and running dpkg -i *.deb
[20:06] <k1l_> effectnet: install the adobe flash plugin package from the partner repo from ubuntu.
[20:06] <k1l_> effectnet: pepper flash thing is a different thing.
[20:06] <humoroustwo> I've restarted twice D:
[20:06] <effectnet> heh ok
[20:07] <k1l_> humoroustwo: look at where they installed it  to and if they shipped .desktop files matching
[20:07] <coajaxial> nacc: Im a little bit confused how the versioning is handled. I thought apt and dpkg always try to install the latest version reachable.
[20:07] <effectnet> thanks k1l_
[20:07] <nacc> coajaxial: no.
[20:08] <k1l_> humoroustwo: apt policy pacakgename will show you what is installed
[20:08] <nacc> coajaxial: dpkg does not know about versions in that way
[20:08] <dax> coajaxial: dpkg does not handle version or other dependency information. it literally just installs the .deb you tell it to install
[20:08] <nacc> coajaxial: dpkg has no sense of a repository, it only has local files
[20:08] <coajaxial> and only apt has this feature ov versioning?
[20:08] <effectnet> sorry, where do i go to get flash?
[20:08] <coajaxial> *of
[20:09] <ioria> effectnet, enable Canonical Partner repo   http://ubuntuhandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/canonical-partners-repository.jpg
[20:09] <effectnet> ok
[20:09] <dax> coajaxial: dpkg handles upgrading/downgrading the package as needed to fulfill your installation request. making sure that the most recent version is installed and that dependencies (and the right version of those dependencies) are installed is APT's job
[20:09] <ioria> effectnet, then sudo apt update  and install adobe-flashplugin
[20:10] <effectnet> ok cool.  hmmm my software dialog box now disappears when opened.
[20:11] <effectnet> i click 'software & updates' in settings, the window opens then closes.  i wonder what i should do?
[20:11] <effectnet> i did have it open before
[20:11] <coajaxial> nacc: dax: so, ok then, my custom build installed via dpgk -i actually downgraded the current installed version of mate-panel  to my specific build, right?
[20:12] <ioria> effectnet, sudo apt update
[20:12] <effectnet> ok thx i have to do stuff or something.
[20:13] <coajaxial> nacc: dax: so when i did a apt-get install --reinstall mate-panel afterwards, it updated from my custom build back to the latest version of mate-panel
[20:13] <coajaxial> nacc: dax: is that right?
[20:14] <effectnet> thank you you guys.  all set with flash now.  thanks
[20:19] <lolrd> hi
[20:19] <lolrd> hey?
[20:19] <k1l_> hi
[20:22] <coajaxial> nacc, dax? ._.
[20:22] <k1l_> coajaxial: yes, that is right
[20:25] <stefa____> Hi. I have problem with letsencrypt renewal. My crontab entry "0 4 * * * /usr/bin/letsencrypt renew >> /var/log/letsencrypt-renew.log" runs successfully except when it's up for renewal. Then I get a "All renewal attempts failed." in the log. Any ideas?
[20:26] <coajaxial> ok. thx all :)
[20:27] <akik> stefa____: are you really trying to renew every day?
[20:28] <coajaxial> I think I'll take a look at the PPA suggestion now.
[20:28] <stefa____> @akik Yes I am,
[20:29] <coajaxial> bye, and greetz from bavaria, germany :)
[20:31] <akik> stefa____: the recommendation is to renew every 60 days https://letsencrypt.org/docs/faq/ maybe you hit some kind of limit
[20:32] <koleygr> caene: Are you there?
[20:33] <stefa____> @akik: There's no pbroblem with daily renewal attempts. The service will only respond with a " The following certs are not due for renewal yet:" within the 90-day period..
[20:34] <akik> stefa____: have you tried using certbot to do it?
[20:35] <LinuxBeginnerCC> Hello all!
[20:36] <LinuxBeginnerCC> Somebody is from Spain?
[20:37] <k1l> LinuxBeginnerCC: look in the #ubuntu-es channel for people from spain :)
[20:38] <stefa____> @akik: Shouldn't have to. Running the command "letsencrypt renew" manually as root renews the cert without problem. Is this a permission problem?
[20:38] <ioria> LinuxBeginnerCC, and if possible, don't login as root
[20:39] <akik> stefa____: you mentioned your crontab entry? does your user account have the correct permissions?
[20:40] <stefa____> @akik: set up using "crontab -e" as root.
[20:40] <phos1> I cannot get my htaccess to work properly for anything, I want redirect to www and https, it’s always saying site is redirecting in a way that won’t compelete. http://pastebin.com/Nyg4uzqC
[20:41] <akik> stefa____: i'm using letsencrypt-auto renew. do you have that program?+
[20:42] <stefa____> @akik: No. Is that part of certbot?
[20:43] <LinuxBeginnerCC> why the people dont write?
[20:43] <akik> stefa____: no it's part of the python client
[20:43] <effectnet> do i wanna use flash or html5 for youtube?
[20:43] <k1l> html5
[20:43] <effectnet> heh k
[20:44] <stefa____> @akik. Thanks. I will take a look at that. Cheers from a very cold Sweden!
[20:44] <k1l> flash is old, insecure and cpu heavy. its best when flash dies.
[20:45] <floogy> Hi, i got issues with mysql on 16.04
[20:46] <floogy> https://bpaste.net/show/1d8d34d459dc
[20:48] <floogy> $ sudo mysql_upgrade
[20:48] <floogy> mysql_upgrade: Got error: 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) while connecting to the MySQL server
[20:48] <floogy> Upgrade process encountered error and will not continue.
[20:49] <nacc> floogy: did you read the logs? it says what to do if this was an upgrade
[20:50] <nacc> floogy: specifically the line starting with "Some of the user accounts..."
[20:51] <floogy> Yes, I'm currently trying to follow the steps 1. up to 3.
[20:58] <floogy> https://bpaste.net/show/77966604939f
[20:58] <floogy> gerhard@ubuntu:~$ ps axu |grep my
[20:58] <floogy> gerhard  32642  0.0  0.0  12540   848 pts/4    S+   21:56   0:00 tail -f /var/log/mysql/error.log
[20:58] <floogy> gerhard  32656  0.0  0.0  19460  1032 pts/3    S+   21:58   0:00 grep my
[21:00] <floogy> gerhard@ubuntu:~$ sudo service mysqld start
[21:00] <floogy> Failed to start mysqld.service: Unit mysqld.service not found.
[21:00] <nacc> floogy: why are you running it in the background? it's probably saner to do in the foreground
[21:00] <nacc> floogy: also the last error message is quite clear
[21:01] <nacc> floogy: isn't it mysql not mysqld?
[21:01] <nacc> floogy: for service
[21:01] <floogy> mysql didn't upgrade
[21:02] <nacc> !who | floogy
[21:04] <floogy> nacc, sudo dpkg --configure -a stuick with  This installation of MySQL is already upgraded to 5.7.17, use --force if you still need to run mysql_upgrade, the log ends with Version: '5.7.17-0ubuntu0.16.04.1'  socket: '/tmp/tmp.X7pTFzOiaH/mysqld.sock'  port: 3306  (Ubuntu) https://bpaste.net/show/0eb8f360778c
[21:06] <floogy> tail -f /var/log/mysql/error.log and sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:06] <floogy>  stuck with the above for hours.
[21:06] <nacc> floogy: yes, i know. i'm the one helping you earlier...
[21:06] <nacc> floogy: not sure why you're recapping what you've already pasted
[21:06] <nacc> floogy: follow the steps to upgrade in that log
[21:07] <floogy> Therefor I recapping what I previously psted. It stucks there with the same error.
[21:07] <floogy> I followed the 3 steps
[21:08] <nacc> floogy: except you didn't even follow 1.
[21:08] <nacc> floogy: as it failed to start the server
[21:09] <floogy> https://bpaste.net/show/77966604939f
[21:09] <nacc> floogy: yes, you've already pasted that!
[21:09] <floogy> Yes, it didn't start the server.
[21:09] <nacc> floogy: and it failed to start and clearly told you why...
[21:09] <someone235> Hi, I want to change my dns server. I see that /etc/resolve.conf is read only, so what file should I edit?
[21:09] <nacc> floogy: Directory '/var/run/mysqld' for UNIX socket file don't exists.
[21:09] <floogy> sudo mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables & should start the server, should it?
[21:09] <nacc> floogy: so either use the correct service name (mysql not mysqld) or you will presumably need to create the appropriate director(ies) yourselv
[21:10] <nacc> floogy: stop running it in the background -- use two sessions/terminals (I don't know if you're doing this remotely or locally)
[21:10] <nacc> floogy: yes, but not if it fails.
[21:14] <Epx998> Anyone use auditd?
[21:15] <Epx998> I am what the performance cost is for using auditd to watch a few directories
[21:19] <floogy> nacc, unfortunately I got no luck with creating the lacking folder, but it's different now: https://bpaste.net/show/79f4c1148be9
[21:20] <nacc> floogy: right, tailing the log isn't helpfu, you need to see why the server isn't staying up
[21:20] <floogy> nacc, should it be mysql:mysql? drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 40 Feb 14 22:15 /var/run/mysqld
[21:22] <floogy> 2017-02-14T21:17:29.087063Z 0 [ERROR] Could not create unix socket lock file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock.lock.
[21:22] <floogy> 2017-02-14T21:17:29.087091Z 0 [ERROR] Unable to setup unix socket lock file.
[21:22] <floogy> 2017-02-14T21:17:29.087116Z 0 [ERROR] Aborting
[21:22] <amnix> I am using ubuntu 14.04. I have two kernel versions installed. 4.4.0-31 and 4.4.0-62. On 62, my wifi is extremely slow. Unusable. On 31 it's perfectly fine. How can I check what's causing this? Because of this reason I can't use newer distros.
[21:22] <floogy> I'm trying to set it mysql:mysql then
[21:22] <nacc> floogy: yes, probably
[21:23] <floogy> nacc, thank you for pointing me to mkdir the run folder: Version: '5.7.17-0ubuntu0.16.04.1'  socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'  port: 3306  (Ubuntu)
[21:25] <Epx998> amnix, you cannot use 16 because of an older kernel on 14?
[21:26] <glitchd> how can i stop xpad from loading at boot? im trying to get my wireless xbox 360 controller to be recognized after a reboot. this is the process so far. reboot, then sudo rmmod xpad, then sudo xboxdrv --silent &
[21:26] <amnix> Epx998: My internet is extremely slow on newer kernels.
[21:26] <glitchd> i have to run that everytime i reboot, and its getting annoying.
[21:26] <amnix> Epx998: It's slow starting from kernel 4.4.0-62.
[21:26] <Epx998> amnix, have you tried 16 yet?
[21:26] <amnix> Epx998: Yes.
[21:27] <glitchd> ive already tried blacklisting xpad but it still loaded..
[21:27] <Epx998> amnix, so build the 31 kernel on 16.
[21:27] <amnix> Epx998: And just not be able to use newer kernels?
[21:27] <k1l> amnix: what wifi card is it?
[21:27] <floogy> nacc: yes, it worked now: https://bpaste.net/show/f60cc006434f and apt-get dist-upgrade tells 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
[21:28] <Epx998> amnix, why do you need the newer kernels?
[21:28] <k1l> Epx998: sorry to say, but this is not really helpfull
[21:28] <floogy> nacc, thanks a lot.
[21:28] <amnix> Epx998: I need them for something. That's not what's important here.
[21:28] <amnix> k1l: intel ac 7265.
[21:29] <k1l> Epx998: the numbers are just the build numbers from ubuntu. they included the actual bugfixes and security patches. so staying on a old kernel is not really an option
[21:29] <nacc> floogy: yw
[21:30] <k1l> amnix: anything "obvious" in dmesg or syslog?
[21:30] <amnix> k1l: Not that I can tell
[21:32] <amnix> k1l: what should I do?
[21:35] <k1l> amnix: hmm, seems like that card has had some issues in the past already
[21:37] <elisa87> can you please have a look at this question? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42236574/attributeerror-module-object-has-no-attribute-histogram-when-using-tf-faste
[21:38] <amnix> k1l: Also I don't have any problems when using this card in windows too.
[21:38] <k1l> amnix: can you show "dmesg | grep Wireless | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:39] <amnix> k1l: http://termbin.com/dhjw
[21:40] <amnix> k1l: this is why I hate linux sometimes.
[21:40] <plgos> what?
[21:41] <k1l> amnix: yes, it looks like its a driver/firmware issue from the intel drivers. my older 6205 wifi works like a charm  :/
[21:41] <k1l> amnix: i see a lot of threads like this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291405
[21:41] <MartinKG> I have some problems with bluetooth, it can't detect any devices - Anybody have some ideas?
[21:41] <plgos> amnix: is it a driver issue?
[21:41] <amnix> k1l: how is it working fine in this kernel version?
[21:41] <k1l> amnix: i dont know what  the right solution now is.
[21:43] <k1l> amnix: this is another similar bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1451246
[21:44] <k1l> amnix: look if disabling the n wireless helps, like its told in the workaround description
[21:44] <amnix> k1l: already tried.
[21:44] <amnix> k1l: didn't help.
[21:49] <ezfox> amnix: whats your kernel version ?
[21:49] <amnix> ezfox: right now its 4.4.0-31-generic. and it works on this one. it doesn work in newer ones. it works, but its slow.
[21:54] <Dobruy> x
[21:56] <Dobruy> Расскажите пожалуйста как поствить gcc g++ перелистал формы ничего не помогло Пакеты, имеющие неудовлетворённые зависимости:
[21:56] <Dobruy>  g++ : Зависит: g++-4.8 (>= 4.8.2-5~) буду благодарен ибо я в печали
[21:57] <genii> !ru
[21:58] <Dobruy> хорошо спасибо
[22:03] <Herbalist> spasibo
[22:36] <rafaelcenteio> Hi, I do not have sound on my system. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 . When I try to run alsamixer, it says that there os not such file or directory. I already followed the Ubuntu's Sound troubleshooting, but to no avail. Also, I couldn't find solution in any forum, article, etc.
[22:36] <rafaelcenteio> Thanks in advance.
[22:45] <sashimi1122> lets say I install a package and then either I modify one of the default config files in etc or something, if I run apt-get purge on the package and the reinstall it doesnt restore the default config files
[22:45] <sashimi1122> How would I go about getting  back the default config file?
[22:47] <Whiskey> tar -I 'gzip -9' -cvf file.tar.gz /path/to/directory <-- is it someway to tell it to pack one folder path up?
[22:47] <Whiskey> so if its in "/home/my/project/css" <--- its go to "/home/my/project" and pack it
[22:47] <nacc> Whiskey: -C flag
[22:49] <Whiskey> nacc i don´t fallow?
[22:49] <Whiskey> it just change directory
[22:49] <Whiskey> or -C .. ?
[22:49] <nacc> Whiskey: `man tar` look for the -C flag
[22:49] <nacc> Whiskey: or are you asking something else?
[22:49] <Whiskey> yeh i have look at it
[22:50] <Whiskey> yes if it could change the path automatic backwords or other way around
[22:50] <Whiskey> as it know where it exacuted so
[22:50] <nacc> Whiskey: 'automatic backwards'?
[22:50] <Whiskey> yes like tar /home/my/project/css .. <-- will tell it to actully pack /home/my/project/
[22:51] <nacc> Whiskey: how would tar know to do that?
[22:51] <nacc> Whiskey: that's incredibly specific to your use-case, it sounds lke
[22:51] <nacc> Whiskey: so write a wrapper script
[22:51] <Whiskey> well, it know where its executed right?
[22:52] <Whiskey> or does it never know what the current path is
[22:52] <nacc> Whiskey: you are askign to change the default bheavior of tar
[22:52] <nacc> Whiskey: it makes no sense
[22:53] <Whiskey> what you get my point?
[22:53] <nacc> Whiskey: look at the many flags you can pass to tar and use one of those, or write a wrapper script if you have such a specific use case
[22:53] <keith_beebop> can anyone help with SIS ethernet support?
[22:54] <Whiskey> i think it was quite logical
[22:55] <keith_beebop> Old Acer AMD64 wth SIS900 ethernet device, Wireless broadcom working fine.
[22:55] <nacc> Whiskey: so if you ran `tar /etc` you would want it to tar your / directory? Again, look at flags, but I think that's absolutely not a general requirement.
[22:56] <Whiskey> i google it
[23:01] <keith_beebop> both where working before upgrade to 16.10
[23:03] <keith_beebop> is this the best place to ask for help on this?
[23:04] <nacc> keith_beebop: probably, or file a bug
[23:05] <nacc> keith_beebop: do you have the 16.04 kernel still?
[23:05] <nacc> keith_beebop: if so, can you boot to that and see if it works?
[23:05] <Jack3k3> so I am looking to install ubuntu on a virtual machine in a windows enviornment, I also want to be able to login to the vm remotely. What do people normally use for this that's free? Vmware seems nice but it's expensive :(
[23:05] <keith_beebop> probly
[23:05] <keith_beebop> didn't clean anything off,
[23:05] <bazhang> Jack3k3, virtualbox
[23:05] <keith_beebop> just did the software center upgrade I suppose it's still on
[23:05] <nacc> Jack3k3: not sure, might want to ask in #windows if that's the hosting environment?
[23:07] <keith_beebop> hate to try a regress might blow it all up
[23:08] <keith_beebop> might do that anyway, need to update the bios I finally found looks like a lot of trouble to do in linux to get to DOS install of bios
[23:09] <pavlos> keith_beebop, uses the sis900 module which seems to be in kernel 4.4.0-62
[23:09] <Guest25129> bios update is very unlikely to get your network working
[23:10] <keith_beebop> Think it was Xubuntu 16.4 and I just had to install the Broadcom package for the Wireless averything else was fine
[23:10] <pavlos> keith_beebop, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man4/if_sis.4freebsd.html
[23:11] <keith_beebop> pavlos thanks
[23:12] <nacc> keith_beebop: regression testing the older kernel shouldn't do anything
[23:12] <nacc> keith_beebop: it's not a reinstall, just a test of one kernel
[23:13] <keith_beebop> ah ok
[23:13] <keith_beebop> k I'll try ou the link and report  thanks again
[23:13] <klausi> hello
[23:14] <ghost_> herro
[23:15] <klausi> by chance someone could tell me what that ufw syntax/statement means? ":POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0]" i searched the manpage/web but couldn't find anything.
[23:19] <qwertyujkoppoiuy> in wine what is the error c0000135? how can i correct it ? PLZ
[23:22] <k1l> qwertyujkoppoiuy: better look at the wine database and ask in #winehq if you cant find the answers in the database
[23:22] <bazhang> The c0000135 is "module not found", so that means that it cannot find the WoW.exe.
[23:23] <Whiskey> nacc, i come no where whit this
[23:23] <nguyenphi> Is it right that ubuntu does not support nvidia 7100v
[23:23] <Whiskey> i thinked a pipe could work
[23:23] <bazhang> The c0000135 is "module not found", so that means that it cannot find the .exe. qwertyujkoppoiuy
[23:23] <nguyenphi> 7100?
[23:23] <bazhang> check the appdb for whatever game that is qwertyujkoppoiuy
[23:23] <bazhang> then go to #winehq qwertyujkoppoiuy
[23:24] <klausi> is it just an initialization/initial flush?
[23:24] <k1l> nguyenphi: why shouldnt it?
[23:24] <nguyenphi> k1l: i installed cinnamon but the performance not going well
[23:25] <saitoh183> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9msdK1nz/
[23:25] <nguyenphi> k1l: i dont know was it regconize my driver or not
[23:25] <k1l> nguyenphi: the nvidia-304 should work
[23:26] <nguyenphi> k1l: so i need to install it after install the os?
[23:26] <k1l> nguyenphi: yes
[23:27] <nguyenphi> k1l: how to know my drivers was regconized?
[23:27] <k1l> nguyenphi: did you isnatll it already?
[23:27] <k1l> nguyenphi: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:27] <nguyenphi> k1l: not yet
[23:28] <nacc> Whiskey: what does a pipe have to do with it?
[23:28] <k1l> nguyenphi: if you dont install the ubuntu nvidia package then its using the open source driver from the linux community
[23:28] <nguyenphi> k1l: ah thank you
[23:32] <bitch> !List
[23:33] <bitch> !list
[23:33] <Whiskey> nacc: fix it whit some regexp (.+)\/[^\/]+$
[23:36] <nacc> Whiskey: fix what? you have not actually stated a problem
[23:38] <Whiskey> how to get to parent path from current path to zip :D
[23:41] <u_u> can someone help me with this error? i am trying to build cantata 2.0: error Qt requires a C++11 compiler and yours does not seem to be that.
[23:42] <nacc> Whiskey: $(pwd)/..
[23:43] <ezfox> who has a good and complete manual to create an encrypted swap partition ? all guides i found lead to no swap after reboot and error "partition not a valid luks-device" after first reboot
[23:43] <koleygr> u_u: I think you have to install built-essentials
[23:44] <u_u> @koleygr: i already have that installed
[23:44] <ezfox> i thought the partition would be regenerated at boot with random key from the entry in crypttab, but that seems not to happen for unknown reason
[23:51] <koleygr> u_u: try to install the packages seen here: https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu
[23:51] <koleygr> I use Qtcreator and these packages are enough
[23:52] <knemon> can someone tell me which IDE Is in the photo? https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/developers
[23:53] <k1l> knemon: unity
[23:53] <k1l> knemon: thtat is the standard on ubuntu
[23:54] <k1l> uh, ide? sorry, i read DE :/
[23:54] <qwertyujkoppoiuy> anyone can give me a windows 7, 8 or 10 system32 for wine PLZ
[23:54] <k1l> qwertyujkoppoiuy: look at the wine database or ask in #winehq
[23:55] <koleygr> knemon: it is Atom
[23:56] <rothschild> is there any reason why i should select 64bit over 32 bit for a low traffic website vps?
[23:57] <k1l> rothschild: there is no reason to use 32bit today
[23:57] <wedgie> unless you can get 32 bit cheaper for some reason
[23:57] <rothschild> so the overhead won't be higher?
[23:57] <rothschild> i'm paying for cloud capacity
[23:59] <wedgie> rothschild: there is no reason to avoid 64bit, if that's what you're asking. Myself, given the option, would choose 64bit because it has better prospects for the future