[01:53] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.04 - i386 - i386 built.
[02:16] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.04 - amd64 - amd64 built.
[07:34] <flocculant> knome: ack - that works 
[07:34] <flocculant> ochosi: :)
[07:40] <flocculant> yay - I get a mention on http://simon.shimmerproject.org/2017/02/13/releases-releases-releases/
[07:47] <ochosi> flocculant: i'll mention you by name next time, knowing now that you read *and* appreciate those posts ;)
[07:48] <flocculant> ochosi: ha ha :)
[07:54] <flocculant> ochosi: been quite an interseting time for me this cycle :)
[08:34] <ochosi> flocculant: good to hear! it's not over just yet ;)
[09:07] <akxwi-dave> :-) nice work ochosi .. thanks
[11:26] <bluesabre> will be adding the create document templates to xubuntu-default-settings tonight if there are no objections, https://code.launchpad.net/~bluesabre/xubuntu-default-settings/xubuntu-templates/+merge/317186
[11:57] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [xubuntu-templates] r631 Restore spaces for smaller diff on merge (by Sean Davis)
[12:00] <flocculant> bluesabre: nice 
[12:06] <Unit193> bluesabre: Poke me before you do, I have a few remarks.
[12:10] <flocculant> ochosi: am I still supposed to see the X in taskmanager? 
[12:18] <bluesabre> Unit193, what's up?
[12:19] <Unit193> I can't English right now very well, so figured later when I make more sense is better.  You seem to "hardcode" ~/.config/ when the user can use $XDG_CONFIG_HOME to change it.
[12:19] <Unit193> https://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html#variables, or the more readable https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XDG_Base_Directory_support#User_directories
[12:19] <bluesabre> ah
[12:20] <Unit193> A slightly more descriptive d/changelog would be nice, but..
[12:20] <bluesabre> Can do that too
[12:21] <Unit193> (Nice use of xdg-user-dir!)  Also, it occurs to me, that the first python3 script?  It might need py3 foo.
[12:23] <bluesabre> should be py3 safe
[12:23] <bluesabre> handles bytes decoding where needed
[12:24] <bluesabre> and other things (it has been tested) :D
[12:25] <bluesabre> but yeah, if there is any other feedback, feel free to just dump it here and I'll review when I get home tonight
[12:25] <Unit193> Hah, sure.  Was thinking packaging.
[12:25] <bluesabre> bbl, hf all
[17:11] <flocculant> ochosi: ignore that last one - had your gtk3 task manager here not master
[18:21] <ochosi> flocculant: ok, was hoping it'd be something along the lines of that
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[20:50] <flocculant> :)
[21:01] <Unit193> https://bugs.debian.org/855157
[21:01] <ubottu> Debian bug 855157 in mugshot "mugshot is not starting" [Normal,Open]
[21:02] <flocculant> ochosi: ok - so ... found an odd thing - open task manager - go to settings for it - Toolbar Style set to default, set it to small - watch the icons increase in size
[21:03] <flocculant> so default is smaller than small :p
[21:05] <ochosi> the toolbar icon setting is totally superfluous and silly
[21:05] <flocculant> ochosi: well - only because default isn't large :D
[21:06] <ochosi> no, because there are system-wide settings for the toolbar size
[21:06] <ochosi> and all this silly setting does is make taskman inconsistent with all the other aps
[21:06] <ochosi> apps
[21:06] <flocculant> :)
[21:07] <ochosi> this setting must come from times when there was no such gtk setting
[21:07] <flocculant> there's somewhere to set toolbar size? 
[21:09] <ochosi> ofc
[21:09]  * flocculant never knew or found it 
[21:09] <ochosi> right, maybe the size is not exposed in the appearance settings
[21:10] <ochosi> but it'd be easy to do that
[21:10] <ochosi> it's a general gtk setting that you can set through xfce4-settings-editor
[21:10] <flocculant> oh right
[21:13] <flocculant> window scaling in appearances is newish - never saw that before 
[21:13] <flocculant> s/saw/noticed
[21:13] <ochosi> that's for gtk3 exclusively though
[21:14] <ochosi> to support hidpi displays
[21:14] <flocculant> aah right - that makes sense
[21:14] <ochosi> unfortunately gtk3 only supports to factors though: 1x and 2x
[21:14] <flocculant> might need it in about 5 years :D
[21:14] <ochosi> nothing in between
[21:14] <ochosi> anything in between would be useful but hard with X (is what they told me), for seamless scaling we'll have to wait for wayland
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