[13:34] good night, all :-D [13:43] rania: good night to where you are ... good afternoon to you from here :) [13:43] haha, i'm so sorry [13:43] its a big world! [13:44] yeah, and may be we chat in two other sides of world [13:46] ah - well - our newest team member - bashfulrobot is from the east-coast of america - so you two really are at the opposite ends of the world! [13:48] haha, give thanks to god that joined us in beautiful project [13:49] FYI - thanks for your 16.04.2 banner - hopefully tomorrow 16.04.2 will be finally released - we'll use your banner for budgie-remix 16.04.2 over the weekend [13:56] oh, thank you. I'm so happy hear that [13:57] by the way, also write open source news in my language [13:58] i and my friend manage this site [13:59] link? [13:59] here the example, https://kabarlinux.web.id/2017/ubuntu-budgie-umumkan-pemenang-kontes-wallpaper-17-04/ [14:00] :) looks very nice [14:01] rania - we have 17.04 beta 1 soon - any chance that you can create a banner for this release please? [14:02] oh, never mind. I'll try to make it soon. May be after my exam :D [14:04] cool - much appreciated - beta 1 23 February.. Beta 2 is 23rd March. [14:05] i don't know why, i love to contribute and get involved in free/libre open source project [14:05] like a hobby, may be, haha [14:05] lol [14:07] btw - would you like to see yourself on our team page? If yes, need a picture or logo for you - https://ubuntubudgie.org/team [14:07] now, i and local developer of BlankOn will continue next release of BlankOn distribution. [14:07] fossfreedom_, ever hear about that distribution? [14:09] no - sorry - that is not a distro I have heard of. What is it? your own operating system - or based on something like Arch or Ubuntu? [14:10] BlankOn based on debian [14:10] ah - gnome-shell/xfce/something else? [14:10] You can find it in distrowatch.com or official site [14:11] no, BlankOn has own desktop environment named Manowari [14:11] Sounds interesting - I'll try to find some time and will download and have a look [14:12] like Budgie desktop, BlankOn also have two side of panes [14:13] but budgie's right pane i think more complex than BlankOn [14:15] in budgie-desktop v11 it will also be possible to have multiple panes - on top and bottom ... and also left and right. [14:15] wow, great [14:17] fossfreedom_, i think i have to go out to look for some snack :D, it will be my friend to do my home work [21:33] fossfreedom: I got the updated gjs, mutter and gnome-shell working, packages are building now in the GNOME3 Staging PPA [21:34] budgie-desktop needs some work to build against the new mutter [21:36] I see that ikey did some work on adapting, but he's also adapting to a bunch of other stuff like he switched to meson [21:36] GNOME's been converting some stuff to meson but for now, I believe they're keeping the autotools stuff too [21:37] jbicha: aye - he is preparing for a new release - 10.3 - although has not committed to a release date [21:37] I've never built a debian package using meson [21:37] meson might be a challenge for packaging [21:38] I've been spending some time with building a meson package - have now done two - a straightforward small meson project - and a second adapting budgie-desktop [21:38] budgie-desktop is a pain - but have just got this working. [21:38] do they build on Launchpad? [21:39] haven't yet tested - that's the next step [21:40] I'll grab the staging PPA and have a look at building budgie-desktop using the new mutter version. Cheers for letting me know. [21:40] upstream never did get around to releasing mutter and gnome-shell this week like they were supposed too so I had to use git snapshots [21:41] ouch. I presume freeze tomorrow (16th) isnt going to be an issue for you? [21:42] well if you can get budgie-desktop to build and run by tomorrow, I can upload these packages [21:42] otherwise I'm pretty sure the Release Team will give an exception for this [21:43] challenge time. I've only got an hour left today though to spend. [21:44] I understand, I apologize this was so late; like I said the Release Team will likely be flexible with this [21:45] wow, an hour ToT [22:09] jbicha: I've upgraded using the staging PPA. Can no longer login to gnome-shell via lightdm. Will have a look at journalctl to see what is going on. [22:11] when was the last time you updated and last time you tried using gnome-shell? [22:12] a few weeks ago - just done a mass update [22:12] hmm [22:12] "JS ERROR: Error: Requiring Rsvg, version none: Typelib file for namespace "Rsvg' (any version) not found" [22:13] check if gir1.2-rsvg-2.0 is installed [22:14] do you know what package emitted that error? because almost nothing depends on gir1.2-rsvg-2.0 [22:14] I had to fix accerciser for that recently [22:15] journalctl says gnome-shell [22:15] k - yes that was not install. lets try again [22:16] and we have success [22:17] yes, I confirm that it doesn't work here either without that pkg, thanks! [22:34] jbicha: I can't find libclutter-1.0-dev that was previously built in libmutter-dev [22:36] ignore that. found it [22:45] jbicha: libmutter-clutter-0 and libmutter-cogl-0 are no longer present - any ideas where these libraries have gone? [22:48] they've been renamed [22:48] old: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/301656976/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.mutter_3.22.2-3_BUILDING.txt.gz [22:48] new: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/306597401/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.mutter_3.23.3+20170215~bd2ca79-0ubuntu0~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz [22:48] libmutter-clutter-1.0.so > libmutter-clutter-0.so [22:48] oh - another name change :( [23:33] jbicha: sorry - have run out of time today. This patch works on my locally built system - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3575524/adapt-to-mutter-324.patch. I need to throw this up onto launchpad and test on a clean system. I'll do that tomorrow evening. [23:35] have a good night, thanks for the help!