[13:34] <rania> good night, all :-D
[13:43] <fossfreedom_> rania: good night to where you are ... good afternoon to you from here :)
[13:43] <rania> haha, i'm so sorry
[13:43] <fossfreedom_> its a big world!
[13:44] <rania> yeah, and may be we chat in two other sides of world
[13:46] <fossfreedom_> ah - well - our newest team member - bashfulrobot is from the east-coast of america - so you two really are at the opposite ends of the world!
[13:48] <rania> haha, give thanks to god that joined us in beautiful project
[13:49] <fossfreedom_> FYI - thanks for your 16.04.2 banner - hopefully tomorrow 16.04.2 will be finally released - we'll use your banner for budgie-remix 16.04.2 over the weekend
[13:56] <rania> oh, thank you. I'm so happy hear that
[13:57] <rania> by the way, also write open source news in my language
[13:58] <rania> i and my friend manage this site
[13:59] <fossfreedom_> link?
[13:59] <rania> here the example, https://kabarlinux.web.id/2017/ubuntu-budgie-umumkan-pemenang-kontes-wallpaper-17-04/
[14:00] <fossfreedom_> :) looks very nice
[14:01] <fossfreedom_> rania - we have 17.04 beta 1 soon - any chance that you can create a banner for this release please?
[14:02] <rania> oh, never mind. I'll try to make it soon. May be after my exam :D
[14:04] <fossfreedom_> cool - much appreciated - beta 1 23 February.. Beta 2 is 23rd March.
[14:05] <rania> i don't know why, i love to contribute and get involved in free/libre open source project
[14:05] <rania> like a hobby, may be, haha
[14:05] <fossfreedom_> lol
[14:07] <fossfreedom_> btw - would you like to see yourself on our team page?  If yes, need a picture or logo for you - https://ubuntubudgie.org/team
[14:07] <rania> now, i and local developer of BlankOn will continue next release of BlankOn distribution.
[14:07] <rania> fossfreedom_, ever hear about that distribution?
[14:09] <fossfreedom_> no - sorry - that is not a distro I have heard of.  What is it?  your own operating system - or based on something like Arch or Ubuntu?
[14:10] <rania> BlankOn based on debian
[14:10] <fossfreedom_> ah - gnome-shell/xfce/something else?
[14:10] <rania> You can find it in distrowatch.com or official site
[14:11] <rania> no, BlankOn has own desktop environment named Manowari
[14:11] <fossfreedom_> Sounds interesting - I'll try to find some time and will download and have a look
[14:12] <rania> like Budgie desktop, BlankOn also have two side of panes
[14:13] <rania> but budgie's right pane i think more complex than BlankOn
[14:15] <fossfreedom_> in budgie-desktop v11 it will also be possible to have multiple panes - on top and bottom ... and also left and right.
[14:15] <rania> wow, great
[14:17] <rania> fossfreedom_, i think i have to go out to look for some snack :D, it will be my friend to do my home work
[21:33] <jbicha> fossfreedom: I got the updated gjs, mutter and gnome-shell working, packages are building now in the GNOME3 Staging PPA
[21:34] <jbicha> budgie-desktop needs some work to build against the new mutter
[21:36] <jbicha> I see that ikey did some work on adapting, but he's also adapting to a bunch of other stuff like he switched to meson
[21:36] <jbicha> GNOME's been converting some stuff to meson but for now, I believe they're keeping the autotools stuff too
[21:37] <fossfreedom> jbicha: aye - he is preparing for a new release - 10.3 - although has not committed to a release date
[21:37] <jbicha> I've never built a debian package using meson
[21:37] <jbicha> meson might be a challenge for packaging
[21:38] <fossfreedom> I've been spending some time with building a meson package - have now done two - a straightforward small meson project - and a second adapting budgie-desktop
[21:38] <fossfreedom> budgie-desktop is a pain - but have just got this working.
[21:38] <jbicha> do they build on Launchpad?
[21:39] <fossfreedom> haven't yet tested - that's the next step
[21:40] <fossfreedom> I'll grab the staging PPA and have a look at building budgie-desktop using the new mutter version.  Cheers for letting me know.
[21:40] <jbicha> upstream never did get around to releasing mutter and gnome-shell this week like they were supposed too so I had to use git snapshots
[21:41] <fossfreedom> ouch.  I presume freeze tomorrow (16th) isnt going to be an issue for you?
[21:42] <jbicha> well if you can get budgie-desktop to build and run by tomorrow, I can upload these packages
[21:42] <jbicha> otherwise I'm pretty sure the Release Team will give an exception for this
[21:43] <fossfreedom> challenge time.  I've only got an hour left today though to spend.
[21:44] <jbicha> I understand, I apologize this was so late; like I said the Release Team will likely be flexible with this
[21:45] <rania> wow, an hour ToT
[22:09] <fossfreedom> jbicha: I've upgraded using the staging PPA.  Can no longer login to gnome-shell via lightdm.  Will have a look at journalctl to see what is going on.
[22:11] <jbicha> when was the last time you updated and last time you tried using gnome-shell?
[22:12] <fossfreedom> a few weeks ago - just done a mass update
[22:12] <jbicha> hmm
[22:12] <fossfreedom> "JS ERROR: Error: Requiring Rsvg, version none: Typelib file for namespace "Rsvg' (any version) not found"
[22:13] <jbicha> check if gir1.2-rsvg-2.0 is installed
[22:14] <jbicha> do you know what package emitted that error? because almost nothing depends on gir1.2-rsvg-2.0
[22:14] <jbicha> I had to fix accerciser for that recently
[22:15] <fossfreedom> journalctl says gnome-shell
[22:15] <fossfreedom> k - yes that was not install.  lets try again
[22:16] <fossfreedom> and we have success
[22:17] <jbicha> yes, I confirm that it doesn't work here either without that pkg, thanks!
[22:34] <fossfreedom> jbicha: I can't find libclutter-1.0-dev that was previously built in libmutter-dev
[22:36] <fossfreedom> ignore that. found it
[22:45] <fossfreedom> jbicha: libmutter-clutter-0 and libmutter-cogl-0 are no longer present - any ideas where these libraries have gone?
[22:48] <jbicha> they've been renamed
[22:48] <jbicha> old: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/301656976/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.mutter_3.22.2-3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[22:48] <jbicha> new: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/306597401/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.mutter_3.23.3+20170215~bd2ca79-0ubuntu0~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[22:48] <jbicha> libmutter-clutter-1.0.so > libmutter-clutter-0.so
[22:48] <fossfreedom> oh - another name change :(
[23:33] <fossfreedom> jbicha: sorry - have run out of time today. This patch works on my locally built system - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3575524/adapt-to-mutter-324.patch.  I need to throw this up onto launchpad and test on a clean system.  I'll do that tomorrow evening.
[23:35] <jbicha> have a good night, thanks for the help!