[00:01] <tsimonq2> Hey, more of an advanced apt question, but I'm not sure how to word it in Teh Googlez. How do I find out if a package is in a tasksel task (and what tasks it's in)?
[00:02] <tsimonq2> Seeds, tasks, you get it.
[00:02] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel tsimonq2 have a read
[00:03] <wedgie> tsimonq2: you're looking for a list of what is installed when you select, say, "openssh server"?
[00:04] <tsimonq2> wedgie: No, let's say the vrms package is in the ubuntu-desktop task AND in the lubuntu-desktop task. Is there a CLI way to tell me that it's in those two tasks?
[00:05] <koleygr> u_u check #kde-neon
[00:05] <tsimonq2> bazhang: Sorry, doesn't answer my question, thanks anyways.
[00:09] <nacc> tsimonq2: do you mean given vrms knowing it's in both, or simply looking in both tasks for that package?
[00:09] <tsimonq2> nacc: I believe the former :)
[00:11] <zuiss1> is there a way to install a current version of youtube-dl in ubuntu the way there is in debian (through debian backports)?
[00:12] <nacc> tsimonq2: sort of like `seeded-in-ubuntu` but for tasks?
[00:13] <saitoh183> 6:54 PM <saitoh183> hey all, quick question.i know its not totally python related but since it has to do with my python script as well, i figured i could ask. On my seedbox i dont have root access. Im trying to run a python script via cron and it works  but fails the filebot portion in the script (using Popen) because cron seems to be using the wrong java.
[00:14] <tsimonq2> nacc: I really need to go through ubuntu-dev-tools, I keep doing development tasks manually and I've been yelled at to look at that package :P
[00:14] <chindy> what are som good music players that can also handle a hugh amount of music files as library
[00:14] <tsimonq2> nacc: (friendly yelling :P)
[00:14] <nacc> tsimonq2: :) i know the feeling
[00:14] <tsimonq2> nacc: But, looking at a man page.
[00:15] <tsimonq2> nacc: OH that just might be what I'm looking for, actually. Sec...
[00:16] <harovali1> hi folks; see, I have a machine in a remote location which runs vivid, which isn't supported anymore. Some people in the forums talk about reinstall from scratch. If there is no other alternative, that's what I'll do. However, I'd like to try to do something from the current state to improve it a little. Up to this point, "apt-get upgrade" fails (and so does "apt-get -f install")  at a point with some 'DATA ERROR' (sic) pres
[00:17] <tsimonq2> nacc: HAH yes thank you!
[00:17] <nacc> tsimonq2: :)
[00:17] <k1l> harovali1: the gerneral target should be to get that machine to 16.04. which means doing 2 upgrades: to 15.10 and then to 16.04
[00:19] <ubuntu-mate_> hi dear´s
[00:20] <Felipe_-> silent channel
[00:21] <koleygr> Felipe_-: Not at all
[00:21] <bazhang> Felipe_-, it's support only, not chit chat
[00:21] <Felipe_-> hey, what´ up ?
[00:21] <Felipe_-> ok
[00:21] <Felipe_-> sorry
[00:21] <bazhang>  /msg alis list social   Felipe_-
[00:21] <bazhang> to find a chat channel Felipe_-
[00:22] <Felipe_-> ok thanks guys
[00:25] <normie> Hi
[00:28] <koleygr> normie: If you have a support question... just do it... Don't wait for "hi"
[00:29] <Photon> Running 16.04 and my mouse only moves in a fucking diagonal line, is there a fix
[00:30] <bazhang> Photon, no cursing here
[00:30] <k1l> Photon: the mouse is ok? hardwarewise? did you try to reconnect it to the pc? tried another usb port?
[00:32] <koleygr> Photon: Is it a razer mouse?
[00:32] <Photon> Roccat
[00:32] <Photon> The mouse is working perfectly most of the time, sometimes I have this problem randomly
[00:33] <normie> i was trying to install a program that was zipped
[00:34] <normie> i followed the instructions but i get error on line 6
[00:34] <k1l> normie: what program is it? what error was there? put the output on to paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[00:35] <normie> will do 1 sec
[00:35] <normie> program is measure up
[00:39] <normie> ./Launcher.sh
[00:39] <normie> ./Launcher.sh: line 6: ./executable: No such file or directory
[00:40] <normie> but i show executable as a file in the directory i unzipped the files to
[00:42] <Photon> chmod +x Launcher.sh ?
[00:47] <k1l> normie: what is in line 6 of that script?
[00:47] <normie> ./executable
[00:48] <normie> last line
[00:48] <k1l> so is there "executable" in the same directory? or whereever that script is going to?
[00:49] <k1l> normie: i dont know what you try to run there at all
[00:50] <normie> executable is in the same directory which is what is really baffling
[00:52] <normie> ls
[00:52] <normie> executable  icon.png  Launcher.sh  lib  LICENSEREADME.txt  settings.ini  www
[00:52] <tgm4883> normie: can you run the executable outside the script?
[00:53] <lerner> i dont understand this: every time I run sudo I run my regular password and execute commands, but if i type su to become root, that password does not work
[00:53] <tgm4883> lerner: root doesn't have a password
[00:53] <tgm4883> !root
[00:53] <normie> maybe
[00:53] <k1l> normie: can you show the output of "ls -al | nc termbin.com 9999" in here (its a url)
[00:54] <tgm4883> maybe? You either can you you can't...
[00:54] <lerner> tgm4883, are these instructions outdated then?
[00:54] <lerner> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM
[00:54] <tgm4883> lerner: what instructions
[00:54] <k1l> lerner: ubuntu doesnt have a activated root account. ubuntu uses sudo. other distros handle that differently.
[00:54] <normie> i meant maybe i can run the script.. maybe it will work
[00:54] <k1l> lerner: do they have ubuntu instructions on there?
[00:55] <lerner> the link https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM says: Become root.su
[00:55] <tgm4883> lerner: I don't see that
[00:55] <lerner> wait...
[00:55] <tgm4883> lerner: I see some Debian instructions that mention that, but Debian isn't Ubuntu...
[00:55] <koleygr> lerner: on debian su works
[00:55] <lerner> ok, im an idiot
[00:56] <lerner> thanks for clarifying that
[00:56] <normie> ls -al
[00:57] <koleygr> lerner: sudo su may be do the trick in ubuntu... but I am not sure
[00:57] <Ben66> no
[00:57] <lerner> koleygr, those instructions no longer relevant, right? im on ubuntu. but thanks
[00:58] <k1l> koleygr: lerner no, dont run sudo su. this will spoil all the environment variables. if you want to have a root shell sudo provides -i
[00:58] <koleygr> kil : thanks for leting me know
[01:01] <normie> ./executable... no  such file or directory
[01:01] <k1l> normie: please run "ls -al | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output
[01:03] <normie> do you want the output or just the url?
[01:04] <k1l> the url
[01:04] <normie> http://termbin.com/5q5r
[01:04] <k1l> the command already made a pastebin
[01:05] <k1l> normie: "cat Launcher.sh | nc termbin.com 9999" show the url please
[01:06] <normie> cat Launcher.sh | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:07] <koleygr> normie: this is the command... not the url
[01:07] <normie> oops
[01:08] <normie> use to putty everything copys when you highlight
[01:08] <normie> http://termbin.com/xr7m
[01:09] <normie> i wish all programs auto populated the clipboard when you highlight text
[01:10] <wedgie> normie: there is the middle click buffer which works pretty much like that
[01:10] <normie> middle click?
[01:10] <wedgie> yeah, click down the mouse wheel
[01:10] <normie> ill be
[01:11] <normie> thank you
[01:11] <normie> it is so much easier
[01:13] <k1l> normie: what happens when you run "./executable" in that directory?
[01:13] <cfhowlett> wa [-9IU432Q V
[01:14] <wedgie> hope that password wasn't for anything important
[01:15] <cfhowlett> irc came up before I finished cleaning the keyboard. sorry.
[01:15] <normie> bash: ./executable: No such file or directory
[01:16] <k1l> normie: you cd to the correct folder first, right?
[01:17] <normie> yes
[01:17] <normie> ls
[01:17] <normie> executable  icon.png  Launcher.sh  lib  LICENSE  README.txt  settings.ini  www
[01:19] <wedgie> normie: what type of file is executable? Run ''file executable'' to find out
[01:19] <k1l> can you please show the website of that software?
[01:20] <wedgie> ^^ also that. Googling "measure up" doesn't return many helpful results
[01:20] <normie> executable file type
[01:20] <k1l> i guess we dont have a "bash doesnt find that file" problem. but another one like wrong architecture or such
[01:20] <tgm4883> normie: paste the output
[01:20]  * wedgie is guessing php script
[01:21] <normie> File executable
[01:21] <normie> executable: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=0b7ec69824a1ff621c8e697a32d12f1cf42274c6, not stripped
[01:22] <k1l> normie: and "uname -a"?
[01:23] <normie> Linux normie-Aspire-5732Z 4.4.0-62-generic #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 18 14:10:15 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:23] <koleygr> it is probably a 32 bit file and he tries to run on 64-bit system.
[01:23] <k1l> normie: ok, you are trying to run a 32bit file on your 64bit OS. best is to get a 64bit version of that executable
[01:24] <koleygr> normie: you downloaded wrong file... you had to chose 64-bit
[01:24] <normie> ahh
[01:24] <normie> ty
[01:25] <koleygr> kil: of he double click the file would he get an answer?
[01:25] <koleygr> *if
[01:27] <normie> they only offer a 32 bit version darnit
[01:27] <normie> who has a 32 bit cpu these days
[01:28] <normie> any fix for that?
[01:28] <k1l> add the i386 achritecture
[01:28] <k1l> and then install the libc6 packages for 32bit
[01:28] <normie> that sounds difficult?
[01:29] <troubled_creatur> thats cool
[01:29] <normie> wow first system i built was with a 386 lol
[01:29] <k1l> "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then run "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt install libc6:i386"
[01:29] <normie> o thats doesn't sound too bad
[01:29] <normie> lemme try
[01:30] <normie> will that affect any current apps?
[01:30] <troubled_creatur> k11 and those just live there in perfect harmony... with the 64 libs?
[01:31] <k1l> well, i cant say for all pacakges. sometimes that becomes an issue when 32bit and 64bit packages have different dependecies. but its the same what steam forces the desktop user to do
[01:33] <troubled_creatur> the implementation I'd seem around are app oriented: like a particular app (or group of apps) with the compat package - but it would be same as compile fork - your approach seems more generalist
[01:34] <normie> sudo apt install libc6:i386
[01:34] <troubled_creatur> and the are the deps for a particular pack (if dynamically linked)
[01:34] <normie> sorry
[01:34] <normie> ./executable: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:35] <troubled_creatur> that may be nomenclature symlink stuff (or dep)
[01:35] <normie> still wont execute
[01:36] <k1l> normie: is this a script from the 90s?
[01:36] <normie> no
[01:36] <normie> covers material that is 2 years old so i wouldn't think so
[01:36] <troubled_creatur> normie, are there any libz* in your lib paths?
[01:37] <k1l> maybe it needs zlib1g-dev package
[01:37] <troubled_creatur> uhum
[01:38] <normie> how to get to the lib path
[01:38] <cfhowlett> perhaps a question best asked in the steam channel?
[01:38] <k1l> look at the readme of that script what it wants
[01:38] <troubled_creatur> normie, /usr/lib /lib ?
[01:38] <troubled_creatur> /usr/share/lib
[01:39] <k1l> they should state what dependencies that script has.
[01:39] <peterrus> my system drops to an emergency prompt while booting, pressing ctrl+d or typing 'exit' just drops me back to emergency mode. running 'mount -a' and then exit makes the system boot fine. any suggestions?
[01:39] <troubled_creatur> normie, you can do a global find for libz*
[01:40] <k1l> peterrus: what happend before that? what do the logs like dmesg say?
[01:40] <normie> find libz
[01:40] <normie> find: ‘libz’: No such file or directory
[01:41] <troubled_creatur> normie, libz*
[01:41] <lerner> so if I find debian instructions to install a program, those wont install something usable on ubuntu?
[01:42] <wedgie> in most cases it will. But not guranteed
[01:42] <normie> same issue troubled_creatur
[01:42] <k1l> lerner: ubuntu is similar to debian, but not the same. the root handling is different, for example. so you need to adjust that then.
[01:42] <lerner> ok k1l
[01:42] <troubled_creatur> normie, so you dont have the lib - k11 already indicated the package to download
[01:43] <normie> i ran the commands ...let me try again
[01:43] <troubled_creatur> normie, k1l> maybe it needs zlib1g-dev package
[01:44] <normie> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then run "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt install libc6:i386"
[01:44] <lerner> so i need the opposite of sudo apt install qemu-kvm libvirt-bin virt-manager and purge does not work...
[01:44] <normie> i ran those commands
[01:44] <lerner> or I dont know how to usepurge
[01:45] <normie> o i missed the zlib message
[01:45] <normie> how do i do that?
[01:45] <normie> the readme doesn't list any dependencies
[01:45] <lerner> done!
[01:46] <peterrus> k1l: nothing of value I am afraid, can't remember doing anything funky either, and I have been using ubuntu long enough to know when I am doing something funky :p
[01:47] <normie> i don't know how to add zlib1g-dev package
[01:48] <troubled_creatur> normie, i don't know how to use dpkg :D - maybe google for it?
[01:49] <k1l> normie: that software is rubbish, tbh
[01:49] <k1l> normie: sudo apt install packagename
[01:50] <koleygr> normie: sudo apt-get install zlib1g:i386 k1l:Am I right?
[01:50] <troubled_creatur> libz is pretty basical isn't it?... isnt it to compress stuff?
[01:51] <k1l> koleygr: worth a try
[01:53] <troubled_creatur> ow, but its the devel
[01:53] <Zabot> So I just installed server 16.04. Install went fine, no issues. After install I see grub and the boot text and then as soon as I would expect the login prompt, the screen goes into standby
[01:54] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, monitor setup?
[01:55] <Zabot> Same thing with both HDMI and VGA off integrated graphics
[01:56] <Zabot> Monitor is just an average dell monitor
[01:57] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, I mean the physical setup - those button and overlay dialogues (isnt it's power saving set to too low?)
[01:58] <Zabot> The monitor still works fine, its reporting no input
[02:00] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, thats bad - Im thinking about hardware issue (cable/connection/video card) - or acpi or video driver
[02:01] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, so it enters standy and cannot be waken?
[02:01] <troubled_creatur> tks BOFH
[02:01] <k1l> Zabot: ctrl+alt+f1 works?
[02:02] <Zabot> There is no display output at all
[02:03] <Zabot> There is console display to see the initialization logs, and then as soon as I would expect to get the user login prompt, the display turns off
[02:04] <Zabot> Its not a hardware issue, there's a second partition on the drive that boots without issue
[02:05] <Zabot> Running desktop 12.04 I think
[02:05] <Zabot> Hence the upgrade -_-
[02:05] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, ok
[02:06] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, tried a new login as k11 told?
[02:07] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, nope ctrl-alt-f1 is new X - not login
[02:09] <Zabot> ctrl alt f1-6 didn't do anything
[02:10] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, can you change confs to boot and dont x? (since you have another partition -  isnt there a no X boot option?) - you may try to debug X issues from there
[02:11] <troubled_creatur> may or might - whats the difference
[02:12] <Zabot> There is no x server installed on the partition I'm trying to boot. Its barebones server
[02:14] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, ah
[02:15] <Zabot> I'm not getting any video after the boot finishes
[02:16] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, uhum - youre totally on CLI - how about the init scripts (tried to check them from the good booting partition?)
[02:17] <Zabot> Looking for anything in particular?
[02:17]  * troubled_creatur is starting to torrencially sweat
[02:17] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, dunno - just try to get ACPI and video references in there
[02:18] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, it looks like its hanging on init phase
[02:19] <Zabot> Let me just grep etc for the word video xp
[02:21] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, isnt there anything related on the ubuntu kb ? - but your setup is pretty odd (I think most people nowadays go direct to X) - would like to see you succeed on this
[02:21] <troubled_creatur> Zabot, but its late here and I must leave now - good luck
[02:22] <troubled_creatur> bye
[02:22] <Zabot> Thanks
[02:24] <Zabot> Anybody else got any ideas? :P
[02:28] <SITM> does anyone know of any programs for ubuntu server that will show the CPU load / IO stats in the corner of the terminal?
[02:28] <SITM> like maybe a status line at the top or something
[02:28] <Zabot> SITM: Something like htop?
[02:29] <SITM> well htop takes up the entire screen.  I want something that is always visible on one line as I run commands and stuff
[02:30] <Zabot> STIM: You could do a tmux split and put whatever program into a pane in the corner
[02:30] <SITM> true
[02:31] <SITM> I'm guessing there is also some way to put the system load in the prompt itself
[02:31] <SITM> that will update each time the prompt is refreshed
[02:35] <dax> i think byobu has options for CPU load. haven't used it in ages tho
[02:35] <dax> it's a tricked out tmux basically
[02:44] <kirkland> dax: SITM: byobu displays cpu load by default;  it's the black-text-on-yellow-background indicator
[02:44] <dax> oh hello :)
[02:45] <Bashing-om> Zabot: A thought, can you boot to the grub boot menu ? And then from there set to explitly boot to TTY1 ?
[02:45] <kirkland> dax: I light up on "byobu" :-)
[02:46] <Zabot> Bashing-om: Yes I can get to grub, I was about to explicitly set gfkpayload to text. Where would I set TTY1?
[02:48] <Zabot> text payload changes the resolution of the boot text, but still no display after boot finishes
[02:48] <koleygr> Zabot: http://ask.xmodulo.com/boot-into-command-line-ubuntu-debian.html
[02:51] <Zabot> No good, same issue :/
[02:52] <Bashing-om> Zabot: Zabot 16.04 (systemd) : from grub 'e' key for edit - in the line starting with linux replace quiet splash and all after with the term systemd.unit=multi-user.target . key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 .
[02:53] <Zabot> I'll give it a go, no quiet splash, so I'll just append it to the end of the kernel line
[02:53] <Bashing-om> Zabot: K;
[02:55] <Zabot> No go, display still stops after init log
[02:55] <Zabot> I've gotten it to stay on before when one of the network interfaces failed to launch and caused it to hang, let me see if I can engineer that to happen again
[03:01] <Zabot> I have ssh, thats something I guess -_-
[03:01] <cfoch-always> hi
[03:02] <cfoch-always> I have userdir enabled in $HOME/public_html, I want to be able to install plugins there in wordpress
[03:02] <Zabot> It did boot into tty1, If I who from the ssh session I can see me logged in on tty1, but no actual display
[03:02] <cfoch-always> But wordpress tells me that it "can't write to the directory'
[03:03] <Bashing-om> Zabot: Any hints : ' journalctl -b -0 ' shows messages from the current boot ?
[03:03] <catbeard> chmod 755 public_html/wp-content/plugins
[03:03] <cfoch-always> I can solve this problem by doing "chown -R www-data:www-data site_folder/"
[03:03] <wedgie> cfoch-always: sounds like a permissions problem in the webroot. For wordpress to write there the webserver user needs to be able to write there
[03:03] <wedgie> cfoch-always: sounds right.
[03:03] <cfoch-always> but the problem is that I would like my non-root user can write to that directory
[03:04] <wedgie> cfoch-always: put the non-root user into the www-data group
[03:04] <cfoch-always> that is why I created a folder in publich_html, because I don't want to do things as root
[03:04] <wedgie> and make sure that the group can write
[03:04] <wedgie> chmod -R g+w site_folder/
[03:05] <Zabot> Bashing-om, Nothing obvious, let me look through dmesg
[03:05] <cfoch-always>  sudo usermod -a -G www-data fabian
[03:05] <cfoch-always> that would be?
[03:06] <wedgie> cfoch-always: looks right. You'll have to log out and back in again for it to take effect
[03:06] <cfoch-always> wedgie: why log out?
[03:07] <Zabot> Bashing-om, Nothing revealing in dmesg either
[03:07] <wedgie> cfoch-always: don't necessarily have to... but any open terminals or programs won't know that it is now in the group
[03:08] <cfoch-always> is this okay?
[03:08] <cfoch-always> drwxr-xr-x 9 www-data fabian 4096 phi 14 21:45 snapshot
[03:08] <cfoch-always> I think it should be fabian:www-data
[03:08] <cfoch-always> wedgie: ^
[03:08] <wedgie> cfoch-always: that's another way to do it, but you'll still need to do ''chmod -R g+w site_dir/''
[03:08] <wedgie> cfoch-always: either way you want will work
[03:09] <wedgie> cfoch-always: if it was me i'd keep it www-data:www-data
[03:09] <wedgie> and put fabian in the www-data group
[03:10] <Bashing-om> Zabot: 'Bout at the end of my thoughts . maybe see what results with a CHange Root from the alternate install .. see what ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' reveals ?
[03:10] <wedgie> cfoch-always: scales better that way... Maybe next week you decide that the user 'sally' also should be able to write.
[03:10] <Zabot> All of the documentation is on debugging x server >:(
[03:12] <Bashing-om> Zabot: Yeah .. Here there is no X .
[03:12] <cfoch-always> wedgie: yep, it works, thanks
[03:13] <cfoch-always> wedgie: so, it is okay that www-data user and group own my web site folder_
[03:13] <cfoch-always> ?
[03:13] <Zabot> Bashing-om, I've got root shell, so no need to chroot, looks like mostly dev libraries. there console-setup needs to be upgraded, going for the hail mary
[03:14] <Zabot> The worst part is that I can see the boot logs, what changes between boot logs and login prompt?
[03:14] <mint> Hello guys, i am in need of your help: After restarting my grub did not work and the rescue prompt opened instead. I repaired grub as always when i had such a problem. But today something very uncommonly happened which i have never seen before: when doing update-grub or os-prober, only my windows10 partition is recognized but no linux mint. I get the additional error message: /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or
[03:14] <wedgie> cfoch-always: generally speaking, i prefer that the webserver user NOT be able to write, but wordpress is special in that a lot of stuff doesn't work right if it can't. And the benefits of effortless (and even automatic) updates outweigh the security risk. So yes, www-data:www-data is ok IMO
[03:14] <mint> directory... I am grateful for any help i get.
[03:15] <Zabot> If display didn't work at all at least I'd have some logical reasoning to cling to -_-
[03:16] <cfoch-always> wedgie: what are the risks of having webserver user able to write?
[03:16] <wedgie> cfoch-always: allows a malicious user to upload shells and things if they find an exploit in a site. Not being able to write anywhere takes away a lot of their options
[03:17] <Bashing-om> Zabot: Still maybe a grahic's driver issue .. grub hands off it's display .. and there is nothing at the other end to pick up the display ??
[03:17] <wedgie> cfoch-always: but again, for wordpress, you generally need it. And turn on automatic updates :P
[03:17] <wedgie> i'd prefer and up-to-date wp site that can write over and out-of-date one that can't.
[03:18] <Zabot> Bashing-om, Maybe, those modern text consoles are pretty demanding on the GPU /s When does that hand off happen I wonder
[03:18] <Zabot> wedgie, For 100% web server security, turn off execution and read too :P
[03:19] <wedgie> Zabot: lol
[03:20] <Bashing-om> Zabot: Ouch .. My smart bucket is not that large . I recently experienced a similar issue .. in that the graphics chip set "kempler" was unknown to the kernel . but boot parameter 'nomodeset' allows me to boot .
[03:20] <wedgie> sudo shutdown -h now && never get hacked again
[03:20] <Zabot> Bashing-om, I've tried that one before, found some grub gfx stuff, maybe something in there
[03:21] <Zabot> wedgie, sudo rm -rf / && sudo shutdown -h now
[03:22] <Zabot> Installing GPU drivers on a server, not something I'd really expected to need to do ever -_-
[03:24] <Bashing-om> Zabot: A million ++ new lines of code to the kernel . Kernel is getting real picky ??
[03:26] <mint> Hey guys, it's me again. Is there no one with grub experience who could help me to figure out why my linux mint installation is not recognized? (even with started lvmetad service)
[03:26] <kk4ewt> !mint |mint
[03:26] <mint> Oh ok, thanks
[03:27] <Bashing-om> mint: Not that at all . what it is is that the mint disto is not supported in this channel . mint has their own support .
[03:28] <Zabot> I FOUND AN OBSCURE THREAD FROM 5 YEARS AGO WITH THE SAME ISSUE! Watch it end with "nvm I fixed it" and nothing else -_-
[03:29] <Bashing-om> Zabot: Yuk ! I hate when that happens .
[03:31] <wedgie> just as bad is some jerk saying: "Just google the problem." HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT HERE?
[03:31] <Zabot> ...
[03:31] <Zabot> Random crazy guy that told me to blacklist kernel modules fixed it
[03:32] <Zabot> blacklisted gma500_gfx
[03:33] <cfoch-always> btw, does Ubuntu participate in the Google Summer Of Code?
[03:34] <Zabot> cfoch-always, I think it did last year, that may have been gnome I'm thinking of though
[03:34] <dax> Depends on whether it gets accepted. GSoC tends to favor projects that need more people.
[03:34] <dax> e.g. Ubuntu wasn't accepted to GSoC last year
[03:35] <cfoch-always> are there GTK projects I can get involved in Ubuntu?
[03:35] <cfoch-always> for a GSoC
[03:37] <cornernote> hi, im trying to put a new cert on postfix, but after restarting postfix it's still sending the old cert... is there anything else i need to restart?  I cant see any services for imap/smtp/etc
[03:37] <cfoch-always> is this the right channel to talk about GSoC?
[03:38] <cfoch-always> dax:
[03:38] <cfoch-always> ^
[03:39] <dax> cfoch-always: organizations for this year didn't get announced yet. #gsoc for general GSOC discussion, #ubuntu-google i think is the one for ubuntu specifically but I'm not sure if it's active
[03:39] <dax> #ubuntu is generally just for support
[03:40] <arooni> i *love* ubuntu but * hate * how ubuntu 16.04 on my lenovo t420 laptop is never able to come back from resume.  i always see flashing caps lock.  any way to deal with this?  thanks!
[03:41] <Zabot> arooni, I came across some bugs regarding resuming from suspended on my quest for info about no display
[03:42] <cfoch-always> dax: I made a question there, I hope sb answers me at least in the next 2 days
[03:42] <Zabot> cfoch-always, If you watch the GSoC site, accepted organizations should be being announced fairly soon.
[03:43] <Zabot> Now that thats over I need food. Thanks for the help.
[03:44] <cfoch-always> Zabot: yep, but it would be helpful to go researching about a project soon.
[03:45] <arooni> so its a known issue
[03:46] <JairunCaloth> Hey guys, I'm running Xubuntu 16.04. I've got set putting the screen to sleep to never in the power manager, but my screen keeps going to sleep anyways. What is putting my screen to sleep?
[03:47] <JairunCaloth> xscreensaver is not installed, so it's not that
[03:50] <isdes> well hello all
[03:55] <isdes> #irc
[03:58] <agent_white> hello human
[03:59] <isdes> hello hahahaha
[04:01] <JohnnyR030T> @JairunCaloth Not sure why it's going to sleep. Have you tried installing caffeine and using that to keep the computer awake?
[04:17] <JairunCaloth> never seen it before, but I might give that a go
[04:25] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:25] <LordWeston> hello silv3r_m00n!
[04:25] <silv3r_m00n> i am going to reinstall ubuntu on the existing installation. during setup do i need to format the partition, or will the installer automatically wipe the partition first ?
[04:27] <wedgie> silv3r_m00n: you can tell it to format the whole disk, if that is what you want
[04:28] <silv3r_m00n> i just want to wipe the existing data on the partition first.
[04:28] <silv3r_m00n> what happens if i install over it without formatting ? files from previous installation will persist ?
[04:29] <wedgie> silv3r_m00n: there are options... one says something like "trash data". It won't be securely wiped, but you won't see the old files
[04:29] <silv3r_m00n> is formatting an ssd advisable ?
[04:30] <silv3r_m00n> or is it ok ?
[04:30] <LordWeston> probably
[04:30] <LordWeston> i mean yeah
[04:30] <wedgie> sure, why not?
[04:30] <LordWeston> i think defragmenting is the no-no for SSDs
[04:30] <silv3r_m00n> people often say to minimise writes to ssds
[04:30] <silv3r_m00n> formatting will write empty values all over it ?
[04:30] <LordWeston> silv3r_m00n: they have more write longevity than HDDs lol
[04:31] <silv3r_m00n> so i should mark format while installation
[04:31] <silv3r_m00n> restarting ...
[04:32] <wedgie> silv3r_m00n: formatting does *not* write to the whole disk
[04:32] <ill_logic> Hello. I have a question about installing Ubuntu Server. Am I in the right room for that? Just want to install over an existing installation without losing /home.
[04:32] <LordWeston> yup you are in the right place ill_logic
[04:32] <ill_logic> Sweet. So, the Ubuntu Server dialog (Yakkety) doesn't seem to recognize my existing installation.
[04:32] <LordWeston> as long as /home is a separate partition you can select it and tell the installation to not format it during the installation
[04:32] <JairunCaloth> ill_logic: unless you have your /home/ on a seperate partition, you will need to move your files off first.
[04:33] <ill_logic> It's on a separate partition.
[04:33] <LordWeston> JairunCaloth: we told him the same thing in opposite ways haha
[04:33] <JairunCaloth> ill_logic: even then, you should backup your files first.
[04:33] <ill_logic> But, I also have ecrytfs. It asks me if I want to encrypt my home directory. I'm not sure if "yes" or "no" is the more dangerous option.
[04:33] <LordWeston> ill_logic: about encrypt-fs (typnih)
[04:34] <LordWeston> it acutally doesn't encrypt anything until you define a passphrase the first time you login, AFAIK
[04:34] <JairunCaloth> during installation, you will probably want to do manual partitioning, and mount your home partition on /home.
[04:34] <LordWeston> ^
[04:34] <JairunCaloth> sorry, I'm not super familiar with encryption on ubuntu.
[04:34] <JairunCaloth> LordWeston: aye :)
[04:34] <ill_logic> I have backed up my files. Pretty sure. I guess I should doublecheck it.
[04:34] <mazzei> hi
[04:34] <LordWeston> ill_logic: how did you back up?
[04:34] <JairunCaloth> always a good policy :)
[04:34] <LordWeston> mazzei: hi
[04:35] <ill_logic> I can't back up again because I accidentally deleted /lib heh.
[04:35] <LordWeston> haha lma
[04:35] <LordWeston> lmao
[04:35] <LordWeston> how did that happen ill_logic
[04:35] <JairunCaloth> Also, the thing I always forget, export your bookmarks and back them up as well
[04:35] <ill_logic> LordWeston: Duplicity, in short.
[04:35] <LordWeston> LOOOOOL
[04:35] <ill_logic> ?
[04:35] <LordWeston> rest in peace ill_logic
[04:35] <JairunCaloth> ill_logic: If needed you can boot into a liveCD, mount your existing homedirectory and pull whatever files you need.
[04:35] <ill_logic> Duplicity is how I backed up my stuff. Unless you're saying Duplicity is a poor choice for backups.
[04:36] <LordWeston> ill_logic: it is not bad, but duplicity has some hilarious bug threads
[04:36] <ill_logic> Deleting /lib was because I rm'd a symlink that pointed to it. Apparently rm -r follows symlinks.
[04:36] <ill_logic> Well what would you recommend?
[04:37] <LordWeston> i actually wrote my own backup software in python with a gui and everything, ill_logic, if you want to give tha a try
[04:37] <ill_logic> Anyway that's a separate question. Okay, so y'all are saying that manual partitioning should get me where I want to go.
[04:37] <LordWeston> yup
[04:37] <LordWeston> ill_logic: duplicity is good software. it has some...interesting bugs
[04:37] <ill_logic> What about ecryptfs? Sounded like you were going to say something regarding that.
[04:37] <LordWeston> yes
[04:37] <JairunCaloth> yeah, if you auto partition it will probably wipe your existing /home/
[04:38] <LordWeston> that
[04:38] <ill_logic> Sure. So I will def. do manual.
[04:38] <ill_logic> But that's all you were going to say about ecryptfs?
[04:38] <ill_logic> That seems to apply to /home in general.
[04:39] <LordWeston> ill_logic: oh about encryptfs. yeah here's what i was going to say:
[04:39] <LordWeston> AFAIK, when you tell it to encrypt, it doesn't permanently do anything until the first time you login, at which point it will ask you to generate a passphrase. if you don't do anything, your partition remains unencrypted
[04:39] <LordWeston> at least on my Manjaro installation it does
[04:41] <ill_logic> LordWeston: To be more clear: My user directory in /home is already encrypted with ecryptfs. How do I make sure that's not bothered with?
[04:41] <SchrodingersScat> !backups
[04:42] <ill_logic> It asked me whether I want to encrypt my home directory, before it even asks me how I want to partition my disks.
[04:42] <LordWeston> ill_logic: im honestly not sure, i've never had to install around an encrypted directory
[04:42] <ill_logic> I don't want it to touch /home at all, and I still want ecryptfs to work as it did before. I'm not sure what to tell it for that.
[04:42] <LordWeston> sorry ill_logic
[04:42] <ill_logic> okay. np
[04:43] <JairunCaloth> ill_logic: So to be clear. You're homedir is already encrypted?
[04:56] <ill_logic> JairunCaloth: Yes, for my main user. Not all the users.
[04:57] <JairunCaloth> I see. As I said I'm not really familiar with encryptfs. So I'm not entirely sure what you need to do to get it working correctly.
[05:00] <kubuntu> hi there
[05:01] <Guest67365> I installed kubuntu and when i start the system it drops to a login prompt
[05:02] <kk4ewt> !kubuntu | Guest67365
[05:14] <effectnet> hi can anyone recommend a script blocker for chromium?
[05:15] <effectnet> i just tried scriptblocker helper but it didn't block enough
[05:18] <effectnet> i'll look around i guess, afk
[05:19] <effectnet> wow this is the 2nd largest channel on freenode?
[05:20] <ankur> Hi
[05:20] <effectnet> o/
[05:20] <ankur> This Updated version of Ubuntu 16.04 has a lot of glitches
[05:21] <ankur> The Ubuntu software center doesn't have all the required tools
[05:21] <ankur> Please help updating it.
[05:41] <elias_a_> ... says the occasional visitor and leaves the channel...
[05:41] <uxfi> singing songs
[05:44] <ill_logic> In the Partition Disks section: "Use as: Do Not Use" vs "Use as: ext4". It was ext4 before. If I choose the same file system, will it not erase anything on there?
[05:44] <ill_logic> I mean, "not the same fs = delete everything" is not a great thing to have implicit.
[05:44] <ill_logic> It's kind of amazing that this stuff hasn't gotten better over the years.
[05:45] <ill_logic> I guess the desktop version has.
[05:45] <ill_logic> Ah, there's a "Format the partition:" "No, keep existing data" thing. Good.
[05:45] <ill_logic> Why didn't you say so?! heh.
[05:51] <vahe> hi, how to create image on Usb flash uefi ? cp linux.iso /dev/sdX  or dd if=linux.iso  of=/dev/sdX
[05:52] <rypervenche> ill_logic: Well, technically the data (or most of it) doesn't get overwritten if you do that. Just the partition table.
[05:55] <Sir_Andrei> Good night!
[06:11] <ill_logic> I have my things. /home was preserved. Thanks all for moral support :-)
[06:11] <ill_logic> and help
[06:29] <hanshenrik> when installing ubuntu netboot, it asked what language i wanted for the installation,  my choices were "C" and "English"
[06:29] <hanshenrik> what is C?
[06:30] <hanshenrik> oh nvm
[06:30] <hanshenrik> >Choosing the “C” locale will result in the installation proceding in English; the installed system will have no localization support as the locales package will not be installed.
[06:40] <rallias> So... I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server on a QEMU/KVM virtual machine, and it's stack dumping... am I missing something? https://i.imgur.com/vA1s6Gr.png
[06:41] <cpaelzer> rallias: is this right from booting the iso or did you get any further before this happened?
[06:41] <rallias> cpaelzer, Straight from ISO. About a second and a half in.
[06:42] <cpaelzer> rallias:hmm, I thought I did the same a few weeks ago, can you share your command to get it running?
[06:42] <cpaelzer> rallias: or did you use like virt-install or anything like it?
[06:42] <alkisg> rallias: how much ram did you give to the vm?
[06:42] <rallias> alkisg, Half a gig, but I reproduced with a full gig.
[06:42] <rallias> cpaelzer, virtual machine manager... just went through the regular install interface.
[06:44] <alkisg> rallias: try with plain kvm at first, e.g. kvm -m 512 -cdrom /path/to/ubuntu.iso -boot d
[06:46] <rallias> Could not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting
[06:46] <rallias> (the kvm host is headless)
[06:47] <cpaelzer> rallias: add -nographics
[06:47] <cpaelzer> sorry, -s
[06:47] <cpaelzer> -nographic
[06:48] <cpaelzer> you might experiment with -curses if you like as alternative "graphical" (but really not graphical) backend for the screen
[06:48] <ruxu> Hi, I have several filesystems mounted on my linux box, how can I find the command with which they're mounted? 
[06:49] <ruxu> I'm interested in fact, in an aufs filesystem mounted
[06:49] <alkisg> ruxu: try `sudo lsblk --fs` or `df -h`
[06:50] <rallias> ruxu, You can see what mount options were passed in /proc/mounts
[06:51] <ruxu> I've tried `/proc/self/mountinfo`, `/etc/mtab`, `/proc/mounts` but I only get the mounted aufs layer, not the layers that build up to it
[06:51] <ruxu> also `df -h`/ `lsblk --fs` don't show that
[06:52] <SimonFinkel> CIRCUMCISION: THE TORTURE IN HIS BONES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwCY5BUPTmI
[06:52] <alkisg> ruxu: yeah sorry I misunderstood the question. What about `ps aux | grep aufs`?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> !ot | SimonFinkel
[06:52] <SimonFinkel> Torture and mutilation of another human being. Utterly appalling treatment of an infant.﻿
[06:52] <ruxu> alkisg no, there's nothing running
[06:53] <SimonFinkel> They're talking vile Hebrew as they sexually mutilate this innocent infant boy.
[06:53] <SimonFinkel> That's fucking sick.
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> !ops | SimonFinkel
[06:58] <b3h3m0th> What package should be installed on Ubuntu to get pam_faillock.so ?
[07:02] <rallias> Meh... might be something specific to that host... going to cheat and install it on my desktop and migrate it.
[07:03] <cpaelzer> rallias: I tried but can't reproduce with 16.04 or 16.10
[07:03] <cpaelzer> rallias: if installing elsewhere and migrating is an option then fine
[07:04] <rallias> Yeah, I hate it, but it's fine...
[07:04] <cpaelzer> rallias: I found this which might be similar - if you happen to run into it again you could check if you think you hit the same https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1458045
[07:04] <cpaelzer> has a similar signature, but your png was too short to fully compare
[07:04] <heraldii> /amsg The baby is in extreme anguish as these Hebrew sadists continue fucking up his penis with zero mercy shown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwCY5BUPTmI CIRCUMCISION: THE TORTURE IN HIS BONES
[07:04] <vok`> OMG
[07:04] <heraldii> Wrong chan.
[07:05] <vok`> I'll say.
[07:05] <agent_white> heraldii Needs to find some hobbies.
[07:05] <vok`> LOL!
[07:06] <elky> well, better hobbies.
[07:07] <rallias> cpaelzer, Hrm... I dunno, the stack trace is all different.
[07:07] <cpaelzer> rallias: I'd have wonderd if the top would have been a null poiner derefernce in the same function
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: can this you in a way? http://www.tecmint.com/use-pam_tally2-to-lock-and-unlock-ssh-failed-login-attempts/
[07:09] <b3h3m0th> I was using tally2 but I want some features that are in faillock but not in tally2
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: yeah, didnt find much on faillock itself, apt cache doesnt show much neither
[07:11] <b3h3m0th> how do I go about building it ?
[07:12] <b3h3m0th> I did find this https://src.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/pam.git/tree/pam-1.2.1-faillock.patch
[07:12] <cpaelzer> I think on ubuntu usually fail2ban is used instead of pam_faillog - not sure if they are fully feature equivalent
[07:12] <cpaelzer> I found some references of people missing one being pointed at the other
[07:13] <b3h3m0th> I want to use the fail_interval feature to be precise
[07:13] <vok`> CPAN
[07:14] <b3h3m0th> cpaelzer:  can fail2ban be used as a pam module? I recall using it as a fully fledged service for SSH bruteforce mitigation
[07:14] <cpaelzer> my memoery matches yours, honestly I don't know if it can go into the pam stack as well
[07:16] <cpaelzer> b3h3m0th: maybe look at libpam-shield for that?
[07:16] <cpaelzer> https://github.com/jtniehof/pam_shield
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: this could be interesting also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1583788
[07:18] <b3h3m0th> cpaelzer:  I'm not looking for brute force mitigation now. I was saying that I used fail2ban for that since you mentioned fail2ban
[07:18] <b3h3m0th> now I'm looking for the lockout window slide
[07:18] <b3h3m0th> fail_interval
[07:19] <b3h3m0th> lotuspsychje:  I'm wondering if fail2ban would be an overkill for this just one feature addition
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: fail2ban is never overkill and strongly needed
[07:20] <b3h3m0th> does it come as a PAM module?
[07:20] <b3h3m0th> that can be stacked to my current PAM
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: that im not sure of, perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys have more xperience on this
[07:21] <b3h3m0th> Okay, thanks. I'll check there
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: whats your endgoal exactly? perhaps other alternatives will come if you explain the whole story?
[07:22] <b3h3m0th> fail_interval=n
[07:22] <b3h3m0th> The length of the interval during which the consecutive authentication failures must happen for the user account lock out is n seconds. The default is 900 (15 minutes).
[07:22] <b3h3m0th> that^
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: aka ssh brute force attempts on pam?
[07:25] <b3h3m0th> Kind of. I currently use pam_tally2 to lock user for X seconds after Y consecutive failed login attempts.
[07:25] <b3h3m0th> I want to change that to:
[07:25] <b3h3m0th> Lock user for X seconds after Y consecutive failed login attempts within a time windows of Z seconds.
[07:25] <b3h3m0th> pam_tally2 does not support the Z
[07:26] <b3h3m0th> I want a user to be able to try to login (Y-1) times every Z seconds indefinitely without lockout.
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: cant find much on faillock and ubuntu related, but some pages on bruteforce block show pam_abl can this also do what you need?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> morning cfhowlett & EriC^^
[07:30] <cfhowlett> afternoon lotuspsychje
[07:31] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett, EriC^^ b3h3m0th is looking to block bruteforce attempts on pam and needs the fail interval option, you guys know something?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> over my head completely lotuspsychje.  sorry.
[07:33] <EriC^^> no idea here
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: perhaps fool around with that pam_abl, fail2ban, firewall and #ubuntu-server
[07:39] <b3h3m0th> one more thing, I am not just hardening SSH auth, but local auth as well. That rules out the firewall option
[07:39] <cfhowlett> b3h3m0th, ask #ubuntu-sever??
[07:39] <b3h3m0th> I've dropped a query there
[07:40] <b3h3m0th> didn't get anything there
[07:54] <Pimmel> Hi, i am looking for information on Ubuntu 10.04, but can not find it, which debian-release is "Ubuntu 10.04" based upon ? Looking here was of little help : https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Lucid_Lynx/
[07:54] <cfhowlett> Pimmel, based on whatever debian was current at that time
[07:56] <Pimmel> cfhowlett: never mind, your answer is of little use, if you do not know, please give opportunity to knowledgeable geeks , please..
[07:56] <cfhowlett> gratuitous insult aside ... you got it.
[07:57] <Ent-R-PryZ> ubuntu 10.04 is so old, why not just update
[07:58] <Pimmel> Ent-R-PryZ: do you represent the spirit of Ubuntu ? PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO . why not ? that is not the issue i am asking about ...
[07:58] <atmosx> Hello, to mount a reiserfs partition, what do I need to do under xenial? I can't find any resources.
[07:58] <atmosx> is kernel recompilation with ReiserFS4 the only option?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> !resierfs | atmosx
[07:59] <cfhowlett> Pimmel, dial down the attitude please.  as 10.04 is no longer supported, please take this query to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel please.  thank you.
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> !reiserfs | atmosx
[07:59] <ducasse> Pimmel: ubuntu is not based on a stable debian release, but testing/unstable
[07:59] <Pimmel> cfhowlett: dial down you attitude..., please...
[07:59] <atmosx> lotuspsychje: I'm testing a software package performance... I don't have a choice
[07:59] <atmosx> lotuspsychje: I tested on every ther FS, that's the last one
[08:00] <Pimmel> ducasse, thats sounds like a good information, do you have any online sources to confirm what you are saying ??
[08:01] <ducasse> Pimmel: it is mentioned several places on the ubuntu wiki, there's a "ubuntus relationship to debian" article there
[08:02] <Pimmel> ducasse: thanks.. , i gonna try reading it....
[08:09] <turista> hello every1, I'm lazy to read the manual now cuz I don't get it but
[08:09] <sami__> hello all
[08:09] <turista> how can I use 'cron' to shutdown this computer in around two hours?¿ :-P
[08:09]  * turista needs to be bathed with knowledge
[08:09] <cfhowlett> turista, starting with that almost guarantees you get ignored.  suggest you open a terminal and read:       man cron
[08:09] <turista> I did but
[08:10] <turista> I don't understand that /etc/cron.dayly
[08:10] <cfhowlett> dayly?  are you trolling us?
[08:10] <turista> no!
[08:10] <cfhowlett> daily
[08:10] <turista> I open the xterm terminal cuz the letters are more smaller
[08:11] <turista> also I can't copy stuff from there
[08:11] <turista> or paste them
[08:11] <cfhowlett> really.  you can't paste.  unconvinced.
[08:11] <cfhowlett> !paste | tur
[08:11] <alkisg> turista: if you want to shut down the pc in 2 hours, open a terminal and run this: sudo -i <enter> sleep 2h && poweroff
[08:11] <turista> don't tell anyone but the xterm terminal seems to be bugged, sometimes the manual get mixed with whatever I was doing there
[08:14] <turista> I did type the line but it seems it gots stuck
[08:14] <alkisg> turista: yes it will stuck for 2 hours and then it will poweroff
[08:14] <alkisg> turista: no cron needed that way
[08:14] <alkisg> turista: you can cancel it with Ctrl+C
[08:14] <turista> but the root is now open :-P anyone could enter, cancel it and use root !
[08:15] <alkisg> turista: this will not "leave root open": sudo sh -c 'sleep 2h && poweroff'
[08:16] <turista> I am reading the manual about cron but, it always tell me how it does work :-P and that's confuse me
[08:16] <alkisg> Yes it's confusing to read how things work when you want to learn how things work
[08:17] <turista> that makes sense to me; but you know, I was waiting to use -t -f stuff
[08:18] <ducasse> turista: try 'man 5 crontab' and 'man crontab'
[08:18] <Whiskey> How do i create a tar file whit data from another path from where it executed and save file on another place from where its executed
[08:20] <turista> thx by the support, this is the manual file I was looking for !
[08:20] <gnomethrower> having some issues
[08:20] <gnomethrower> The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[08:20] <gnomethrower> even with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:20] <ducasse> turista: it's mentioned under 'see also' near the bottom of the other cron pages
[08:21] <turista> I dislike the xterm terminal but I keep using it, dunno why
[08:22] <gnomethrower> turista: because most terminals for Linux aren't great ;)
[08:22] <turista> u're pretty wrong :-P
[08:23] <turista> may its cuz I feel like a beta tester on it, I like bugs though
[08:23] <gnomethrower> there are some great terminals, don't get me wrong
[08:23] <gnomethrower> but iterm2 > * :)
[08:24] <turista> I prefer the gnome terminal cuz I can copy&paste stuff :-P~ but lately I'm using xterm a lot dunno why
[08:26] <turista> I'm so tired now, have g'day/night!
[08:28] <work> BABL version too old!
[08:28] <work> GIMP requires BABL version 0.1.24 or later.
[08:28] <work> Installed BABL version is 0.1.22.
[08:28] <work> Somehow you or your software packager managed
[08:28] <work> to install GIMP with an older BABL version.
[08:28] <work> Please upgrade to BABL version 0.1.24 or later.
[08:28] <ducasse> !paste | work
[08:31] <work> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23999791/plain/
[08:34] <ducasse> work: are you on zesty?
[08:35] <work> what is zesty?
[08:36] <ducasse> work: which ubuntu version are you on?
[08:36] <work> 16.04
[08:37] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[08:37] <ducasse> work: then what have you done to it? gimp should have the libraries it needs, and that is not the babl version in xenial.
[08:37] <silv3r_m00n> in the commandline, what does %U mean ?
[08:37] <silv3r_m00n> chromium-browser %U
[08:38] <Ben66> nothing
[08:39] <work> ok. and will work on 16.10?
[08:39] <ducasse> work: did you install gimp and/or babl from a ppa?
[08:39] <ducasse> work: 16.10 has 0.1.18-1. but gimp in 16.04 should just work.
[08:40] <gnomethrower> The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[08:40] <gnomethrower> ^ dist-upgrade won't fix this for me :( what do?
[08:43] <alkisg> gnomethrower: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade ==> output of those?
[08:47] <armin> looks loke periodic updates sometimes goes wild: http://base.m2m.pm/unattended.png am i right that i completely am able to disable this by setting APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "0"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic ?
[08:48] <kalu26> anymore ubuntu free cd's?
[08:50] <ikevin> kalu26, nop
[08:51] <kalu26> oh i got plenty of cd's kinda free stuff from ubuntu
[08:52] <gnomethrower> alkisg: https://gist.github.com/Zorlin/9f0022b8013830eeb7c92c4ac05a4173
[08:52] <qwr> qwr
[08:53] <alkisg> gnomethrower: and the output of `apt-cache policy linux-image-generic` ?
[08:54] <j4ckcom> how can i install vmware tools?
[08:54] <kalu26> just hit press
[08:54] <kalu26> simple
[08:54] <j4ckcom> hit? what?
[08:54] <kalu26> flush potty button
[08:54] <kalu26> :p
[08:54] <ducasse> !behelpful | kalu26
[08:55] <gnomethrower> j4ckcom: apt-get install open-vm-tools
[08:55] <gnomethrower> j4ckcom: you almost certainly want OpenVM Tools rather than VMware tools
[08:55] <gnomethrower> which is unsupported on like Ubuntu 14.04 and later
[08:55] <j4ckcom> open-vm-tools-desktop?
[08:55] <gnomethrower> j4ckcom: that sounds about right, if this is not a headless box ;)
[08:55] <j4ckcom> thanks gnomethrower :)
[08:55] <gnomethrower> alkisg: added to that jist
[08:56] <gnomethrower> gist8
[08:56] <gnomethrower> gist*
[08:56] <gnomethrower> https://gist.github.com/Zorlin/9f0022b8013830eeb7c92c4ac05a4173
[08:57] <alkisg> gnomethrower: you didn't put any packages on hold, did you? Can you retry with `sudo aptitude dist-upgrade`, and see what blocks the upgrade?
[08:57] <gnomethrower> alkisg: I unheld one of those packages
[08:57] <gnomethrower> then realized it was meant to be held (and was on other similar machines) and re-held it
[08:57] <gnomethrower> not sure if that's the issue..
[08:58] <j4ckcom> virtual Machine > Install VMware Tools.
[08:58] <gnomethrower> j4ckcom: No, you don't want to do that
[08:59] <gnomethrower> j4ckcom: that inserts the VMware Tools CD (really an ISO) into your machine
[08:59] <gnomethrower> you don't need the VMware tools from that, you need open-vm-tools
[08:59] <j4ckcom> ok thanks
[08:59] <j4ckcom> apt-get install open-vm-tools-desktop? gnomethrower ?
[08:59] <gnomethrower> j4ckcom: correct
[08:59] <j4ckcom> thanks :)
[08:59] <gnomethrower> no problem
[09:00] <gnomethrower> :)
[09:00] <alkisg> gnomethrower: apt-mark showhold
[09:01] <gnomethrower> alkisg: https://gist.github.com/Zorlin/9f0022b8013830eeb7c92c4ac05a4173
[09:01] <alkisg> gnomethrower: well, unhold them, that's the issue... :)
[09:01] <j4ckcom> how can i update ubuntu? gnomethrower ?
[09:02] <alkisg> gnomethrower: sudo apt-mark unhold packagename
[09:02] <gnomethrower> alkisg: i got that... just need to confirm safety ;)
[09:03] <gnomethrower> alkisg: I have that same output on a clean Ubuntu 14.04 box that I know I haven't touched
[09:03] <gnomethrower> linux-generic, linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic all held
[09:03] <kalu26> anyone good at mathematics here?
[09:03] <hateball> kalu26: try ##math
[09:04] <gnomethrower> alkisg: Oh. Huh
[09:04] <gnomethrower> never mind. our Salt config is set to hold those 3. braindead.'
[09:10] <msevwork> anyone of you guys use Wireguard?
[09:22] <hh2010> Hello.  I am running Ubuntu 16 on Amazon AWS EC2.  I have successfully added a secondary IP address, but when I log into it and check ifconfig.co, it returns my primary IP address instead.  Any idea how I can fix this?
[09:23] <gnomethrower> hh2010: tiny nitpick, do you mean Ubuntu 16.04 or 16.10?
[09:23] <souravbadami> How do I build phpmyadmin from source on Ubuntu ?
[09:23] <souravbadami> I don't find any documentation.
[09:24] <souravbadami> I have an existing phpmyadmin which I installed from the official repository.
[09:24] <souravbadami> I have the code, I did a "composer update". What is the next step ?
[09:24] <gnomethrower> alkisg: Okay, just confirmed a brand new U14.04 install has NO HELD PACKAGES
[09:24] <hh2010> Gnome i am away from my computer right now and am honestly not sure
[09:24] <gnomethrower> so this is an internal problem I'll have to rectify. Thanks for all the help :)]
[09:25] <hh2010> I can log in and check if in a few
[09:25] <hh2010> Well actually im trying to sleep so maybe not lol.  This problem is bugging me though.
[09:27] <Whiskey> tar cvzf "$directories(backup)/file.tar.gz" -C "$directories(tar)" . <- Give me strange structur https://snag.gy/sxnKjm.jpg how do i fix that?
[09:31] <hh2010> Any thoughts gnomethrower ?
[09:32] <ppf_> hh2010: how did you add the address?
[09:34] <hh2010> First on amazon aws you generate the IP address and its corresponding public IP address
[09:34] <hh2010> Then in /etc/network/interfaces i added the new up address
[09:35] <ppf_> can you paste interfaces?
[09:35] <ppf_> you said you added it "successfully". how did you determine success?
[09:37] <hh2010> "auto eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp" "ip addr add xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/20"
[09:37] <hh2010> I am away from computer but the lines in interfaces looks like that
[09:37] <gnomethrower> hh2010: not my field, mate, sorry :)
[09:38] <gnomethrower> just wanted to get that info so others could help better
[09:38] <hh2010> By success i just mean i am able to ssh into the secondary public IP
[09:39] <ppf> hh2010: that's not valid interfaces syntax
[09:39] <hh2010> The first two lines are direct from Amazon AWS
[09:39] <hh2010> The third line i am trying to recall from memory but that was the gist of it
[09:40] <ppf> yes, and it's wrong
[09:40] <vahe> hi all, https://bpaste.net/show/d7f32a1f2c5f want to formating but it does not work
[09:40] <bleeepbloop> does anyone here use lets encrypt?
[09:40] <ppf> we can't really guess what's up like this. when you get back to your computer, paste the interfaces file and we can take a look
[09:40] <alkisg> (11:24:42 πμ) gnomethrower: alkisg: Okay, just confirmed a brand new U14.04 install has NO HELD PACKAGES ==> of course, that's normal...
[09:41] <bleeepbloop> idk if this is the propper place to ask but I'm running a couple of lxc containers
[09:41] <hh2010> The third line is: "ip addr add xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/20 dev eth0"
[09:41] <bleeepbloop> and one of them is for email, the other is for a web server
[09:42] <alkisg> vahe: do you see any read errors in `dmesg`?
[09:42] <ppf> vahe: try gparted instead
[09:42] <bleeepbloop> and I'm trying to do the lets encrypt validation in the containers, but since they are natted they cant do the validation
[09:42] <ppf> hh2010: yes, that's not valid interfaces syntax
[09:42] <hh2010> Ok im logging on
[09:43] <bleeepbloop> I have port forwarding in the fw to the web server one so I was able to do the validation challenge in that but that leaves the other container
[09:43] <vahe> alkisg: no
[09:43] <gnomethrower> alkisg: I was pretty sure that was the case, I just wanted to verify for myself
[09:43] <bleeepbloop> Im a bit confused on how to go about this...
[09:44] <vahe> alkisg: I just want to format to install the image for Ubuntu EFI
[09:44] <bleeepbloop> i was wondering if any of you guys had any ideas
[09:44] <vahe> ppf: thanks i try
[09:44] <alkisg> vahe: is this an internal hard disk? is it ssd?
[09:44] <gnomethrower> alkisg: and so I could discuss it with my boss. just needed to verify
[09:44] <bleeepbloop> i dont mean to interrupt any of you guys at all
[09:44] <alkisg> gnomethrower: ok
[09:44] <vahe> alkisg: normal sandisk :)
[09:44] <vahe> I can't just format
[09:45] <alkisg> vahe: sandisk is a company, not a disk model
[09:45] <alkisg> vahe: what's the output of `sudo parted -l`?
[09:45] <indraone01> part #Ubuntu
[09:46] <vahe> alkisg: I know, but I don't know how to determine what it is mmc mabye
[09:47] <vahe> alkisg: it took me half an hour ago worked, but after installing on a flash drive image, then became not to work
[09:47] <alkisg> vahe: yes it sounds like a hardware issue, not a software issue... so what's the output of `sudo parted -l`?
[09:48] <vahe> alkisg: I've done this many times, but now was not working
[09:49] <vahe> alkisg: it is not possible that would be a hardware error :(
[09:49] <alkisg> vahe: comments are nice, but pasting what I asked would be better
[09:49] <hh2010> http://pastebin.com/tLzMDE1i
[09:50] <hh2010> seems impossible to copy from shell lol… had to type that
[09:50] <hh2010> i also made some changes to routing table…
[09:50] <ppf> i expect it's properly indented?
[09:50] <hh2010> there is no indentation...
[09:51] <rafaelcenteio> Hi, I'm having no sound on Ubuntu 16.04 after installing new speakers. Here is dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24000034/
[09:51] <rafaelcenteio> Thanks in advance.
[09:51] <ppf> for your own sanity please indent it then :D
[09:51] <hh2010> indent everything below auto eth0?
[09:51] <ppf> (it's not required)
[09:51] <hh2010> ok will do thanks
[09:52] <ppf> for completeness check man interfaces for some examples
[09:52] <ppf> now for the contents
[09:52] <ppf> why do you configure your interface both with dhcp _and_ a static ip?
[09:52] <ppf> are both IPs in your paste identical?
[09:53] <hh2010> well
[09:53] <hh2010> these IPs are both generated from Amazon AWS
[09:53] <ppf> so "no" to the second question?
[09:53] <hh2010> and they have “public IPs” associated with them
[09:53] <hh2010> no they are not identical
[09:53] <hh2010> sorry
[09:53] <hh2010> yeah the first one is the primary address
[09:53] <ppf> okay. and why dhcp ?
[09:53] <hh2010> the second one is the secondary which is the one im struggling with.  the primary works fine
[09:54] <hh2010> because it didnt seem to pick up the elastic IP unless i did DHCP
[09:54] <hh2010> for the primary
[09:54] <hh2010> and this is how amazon set it up
[09:54] <hh2010> the amazon settings were simply the first two liens
[09:55] <hh2010> elastic IP is their word for static IP that will be used for public
[09:55] <ppf> okay, fair enough
[09:56] <ppf> do you want to get the first IP from dhcp or statically?
[09:56] <hh2010> well i guess dhcp
[09:56] <hh2010> thats how amazon had it
[09:57] <hh2010> i added the static line on my own
[09:57] <ppf> alright, then use that, delete the rest
[09:57] <hh2010> even delete the second ip address?
[09:57] <ppf> to add the second address, you add another iface line
[09:57] <hh2010> ok
[09:57] <ppf> yes
[09:58] <ppf> another line: iface eth0 inet static
[09:58] <ppf> to that you add the proper address and gateway
[09:58] <hh2010> ok...
[09:59] <hh2010> whats the best way to find the gateway to use?
[09:59] <ppf> ask your network administrator i guess
[09:59] <hh2010> ok, wasnt sure if thers a way in linux
[09:59] <ppf> what the egress router for that subnet is
[10:00] <hh2010> ah ok
[10:00] <ppf> how would linux know :)
[10:00] <hh2010> if a command like “ifconfig” maybe specified the gateway the ip is connected to?
[10:00] <ppf> how would ifconfig know?
[10:01] <atmosx> someone had tell ifconfig what to do, stupid thing
[10:01] <ppf> you can specify a gateway statically, e.g. through interfaces, or dynamically, through dhcp
[10:01] <hh2010> because when interfaces activates the network interface it has to specify the gateway
[10:02] <hh2010> right so wouldnt ifconfig or ip have the gateway info that dhcp genreated?
[10:02] <ppf> yes, but only for the subnet the dhcp ip is on
[10:02] <hh2010> oh i guess what im saying is
[10:02] <hh2010> to use the gateway from the first ip
[10:03] <cristian_c> hi
[10:03] <ppf> okay, that you can get via `ip route`
[10:03] <cristian_c> I'd like to make avrcp profile working on my bluetooth headset, I mean: media buttons located on the headset
[10:04] <cristian_c> I've looked at bluetoothctl info output and avrcp is listed as available for the device
[10:04] <cristian_c> What methods could I try in order to find the issue?
[10:04] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[10:04] <hh2010> yeah i just double checked and these IPs are on the same subnets and gateway
[10:05] <hh2010> ip route just says “default via xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx dev eth0”
[10:05] <hh2010> where xxx is my primary private ip
[10:05] <hh2010> ah no nevermind
[10:06] <hh2010> xxx is the gateway
[10:06] <hh2010> does that sound right?
[10:06] <ppf> yes, that's the default gateway
[10:08] <hh2010> ok in ip route there are also two lines which i believe were generated by dhcp perhaps
[10:08] <hh2010> xxx.xxx.xxx.0/20 dev eth 0 proto kernel scope link src [primary private ip]
[10:08] <hh2010> and xxx.xxx.xxx.0/20 deb eth1 proto kernel scope link src [secondary private ip]
[10:08] <hh2010> eth0** for the first one
[10:08] <hh2010> no space
[10:09] <ppf> wait, that's another interface
[10:09] <hh2010> oops
[10:09] <hh2010> that was going to be my next question lol
[10:09] <hh2010> i wanted to get this first interface figured out first
[10:09] <ppf> so do you have two interfaces or one?
[10:09] <hh2010> two
[10:10] <hh2010> having issues with second one working at all
[10:10] <ppf> so the second one is supposed to have the second address?
[10:10] <hh2010> no
[10:10] <hh2010> theres two more addresses on the second one
[10:10] <hh2010> each interface has two addresses each
[10:11] <ppf> okay
[10:11] <hh2010> in the interfaces for the second ip which is static generated, should i add the address like this: xxx.xx.xx.xxx/20
[10:12] <hh2010> ‘/20 to signify the subnet
[10:12] <ppf> yes. like line 3 from your original paste
[10:12] <hh2010> and for gateway should i add a subnet as well?
[10:12] <ppf> no
[10:12] <hh2010> like i am seeing on that second line of the routes table i sent you
[10:12] <hh2010> ok
[10:12] <hh2010> ok i have added the second ip to first interface
[10:13] <hh2010> should i “ip addr flush eth0 && systemctl restart networking.service"?
[10:13] <ppf> yes
[10:15] <hh2010_> should prob get off my znc while doing this lol
[10:15] <hh2010_> yeah it broke when i restarted network
[10:16] <digital_ghost> hi
[10:16] <digital_ghost> :-D
[10:16] <hh2010_> i think it broke because of the second interfact i had generating in there as well
[10:16] <hh2010_> interface**
[10:16] <hh2010_> although that one was static
[10:18] <ppf> broke how?
[10:19] <anddam> I inserted an usb disk and it was automounted by unity (or whatever the approprite component name is)
[10:19] <hh2010> cant connect to it
[10:20] <anddam> I connected a second disk and this wasn't automounted
[10:20] <anddam> both are listed with their partitions in lsblk's outut
[10:20] <hh2010> the shell froze immediately
[10:21] <ppf> well yeah, you disconnected its network, that's to be expected
[10:23] <hh2010> yeah well i rebooted the instance on amazon and still cant get in
[10:23] <hh2010> very weird i dont see how anything we did could have done that
[10:24] <nadio_> what is the best recommended wifi pci-e card for linux currently ?
[10:24] <ppf> if the interfaces file is broken now the machine can't get its network up
[10:24] <hh2010> yeah this happened before i can fix it if needed
[10:25] <hh2010> might just be taking a long time to boot though
[10:26] <Rembo> hello, i have a folder with multiple .jpeg large files(10-12 mb each pic), i want to resize them about  5-6 mb each, i want to use imagemagic command line, can you help me? thanks
[10:28] <anddam> how do I override ownership of mounted fs with a manual mount?
[10:29] <anddam> if possible
[10:29] <hh2010> yeah ill need to do some stuff to fix the interfaces file
[10:29] <anddam> Rembo: take one image and do some test for the proper options, then do a shell for loop and repeat those for all images
[10:30] <hh2010> really weird. not sure why it would break if eth0 was generated with dhcp like it normally does
[10:30] <hh2010> perhaps something to do with the gateway i specified or the second interface, which i will not activate while trying this
[10:31] <ppf> could be the default rout
[10:31] <ppf> e
[10:32] <hh2010> what about it
[10:36] <ppf> maybe it goes out via the wrong address
[10:36] <hh2010> sometimes i see the gateway specified as 10.0.0.1
[10:36] <hh2010> not sure where i first saw that
[10:36] <hh2010> but thats what i was using for gateway for a while
[10:37] <ppf> no you weren't
[10:37] <ppf> you were using the gateway given to you by your dhcp
[10:37] <anddam> I've seen gateways using a /8 network
[10:37] <anddam> so assigning in 10.0.0.0 by default
[10:38] <anddam> and by "gateways" I mean "I saw one, once"
[10:38] <hh2010> well by “using” i mean thats what i put in the interfaces
[10:38] <hh2010> clearly thats not what was being assigned
[10:39] <ppf> no it wasn't. the dhcp method doesn't take a gateway option; your interfaces file was malformed
[10:39] <hh2010> for the static addresses
[10:42] <tcorneli> hi, i'm trying to wake my pc with a wol packet, but it doesn't work. the cause seems to be ubuntu powering the pc completely down, deactivating the nic. where can i modify in what state ubuntu goes to sleep?
[10:48] <hh2010> ok, so based on what im reading on amazon aws docs, it looks like they automatically route all IP addresses to a gateway through their system
[10:48] <Smiche> Hello, I have iptables rule: sudo iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[10:48] <Explorer_> hello, I am new to linux.
[10:49] <Smiche> any way to save this and have it persist after reboot? also iptables -L or -S don't show the rule
[10:49] <Explorer_> Is Ubuntu based on Debian testing?
[10:50] <hh2010> Smiche, use netfilter-persistent save
[10:50] <k1l> Explorer_: the packages are synced from there, then they get tested and freezed before release
[10:50] <Jakey3> when i type python foo.py on 16.04 does it run as python 2 or 3?
[10:50] <Explorer_> ok.  does anybody here know about Sparky Linux?
[10:51] <hh2010> ppf: i am back in
[10:51] <ppf> hh2010: good :)
[10:51] <sly01> Explorer_: Sorry bro
[10:51] <k1l> Explorer_: we focus on ubuntu in here. for other linux distributions ask in ##linux
[10:51] <Explorer_> k1l, what percentage of Ubuntu is Debian?
[10:51] <brunch875_> Jakey3, you can find out with python --version
[10:52] <brunch875_> it launches 2.7
[10:52] <Jakey3> ok it's 2.7.12 how do i change it to 3
[10:52] <Jakey3> or run programs as 3
[10:52] <brunch875_> Jakey3, python launches python2 for compatibility reasons, most scripts expect python to be python2. So it is a very bad idea to change to 3
[10:53] <k1l> Explorer_: hard to tell. its the base but there are a lot of changes to it.
[10:53] <hh2010> ppf: i took out the “gateway” line from the static ip for secondary in interfaces to let it auto assign through amazon
[10:53] <brunch875_> Jakey3, you can run python3 with python3
[10:53] <Explorer_> ok.
[10:53] <k1l> Jakey3: there is python3
[10:53] <brunch875_> that's the executable python3
[10:53] <hh2010> ppf: now i am able to ssh into the secondary public IP
[10:53] <ppf> hh2010: static configurations aren't autoassigned
[10:53] <hh2010> ppf: which i was able to do before. but when i “curl ifconfig.co” it returns the public ip address of the primary IP, not secondary like it should
[10:54] <hh2010> ok… then i wonder how it is getting the gateway...
[10:54] <hh2010> maybe we should assign the second one with dhcp?
[10:54] <Explorer_> is Ubuntu safe from privacy point of view?
[10:54] <hh2010> so that amazon can provide the gateway?
[10:54] <ppf> hh2010: ??
[10:54] <k1l> Explorer_: yes
[10:54] <Smiche> hh2010 ty, any way to check what it saved?
[10:54] <Explorer_> I mean, I have read that it could be containing some spyware.
[10:55] <brunch875_> Explorer_, that's probably related to sensationalist articles refering to the amazon lens
[10:55] <hh2010> Smiche: by looking at your iptables :) it saves what u currently have in there
[10:55] <ppf> hh2010: let's paddle back a bit: what is it that you _actually_ want to do
[10:55] <brunch875_> It is disabled by default
[10:55] <Jakey3> i've installed numpy with pip, so it works when using python2
[10:55] <k1l> Explorer_: that was false information. you dont call your webbrowser spyware because it sends your search requests to the internet
[10:55] <Explorer_> are the results of my searches online as well as offline directed to Canonical?
[10:55] <Jakey3> however now i use python3 numpy doesnt work?
[10:55] <ppf> Jakey3: install it with pip3
[10:56] <hh2010> ppf: when i am logged into my second ip, when people do a whois on me i dont want my first ip to come up
[10:56] <Smiche> hh2010: I didn't see my rule in iptables but it was working, that is iptables -L and iptables -S didn't show it, and iptables-save was saving an empty file
[10:56] <brunch875_> Jakey3, if you apt-get packages, they're normally called python-something
[10:56] <brunch875_> most have their python3-something counterpart
[10:56] <hh2010> Smiche: iptables-save doesnt work in ubuntu 16 i dont think
[10:56] <k1l> Explorer_: look at the system settings: you can set it there if you want recieve online reuslts or not. if you set that to off nothing is send
[10:56] <Smiche> perhaps nat rules have a different list?
[10:56] <ppf> hh2010: what does that even mean?
[10:56] <hh2010> Smiche: thats why i said netfilter-persistent save
[10:56] <ppf> logging into an ip
[10:57] <Explorer_> I saw that video on youtube yesterday, in which Richard Stallman expressed his concerns about privacy related issues in Ubuntu.
[10:57] <Jakey3> pip -V
[10:57] <Jakey3> pip 9.0.1 from /home/c1/.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (python 2.7)
[10:57] <hh2010> ppf: i mean when i ssh into that ip and go onto the internet
[10:57] <brunch875_> Jakey3, so you can apt-get install python-numpy for python2 and python3-numpy for python3
[10:57] <Jakey3> pip seems to be directed at python2
[10:57] <hh2010> ppf: or if i use it as a vpn
[10:57] <hh2010> ppf: or if i use it for znc
[10:57] <k1l> Explorer_: yes, richard stallman has a very different point of view: he tells you to steal instead of coding for money. we explained you the facts about the search right now
[10:57] <ppf> hh2010: those are entirely unrelated things
[10:58] <brunch875_> Jakey3, there's also pip3
[10:58] <vinod123[m]1> How
[10:58] <rowe> How can I get the ISight camera to work on my Macbook 2,1 running 16.04?
[10:58] <Explorer_> k1l, where exactly in system settings?
[10:58] <k1l> Explorer_: in the privacy tab
[10:58] <Explorer_> I am using Lubuntu now.
[10:58] <ppf> Jakey3: pip is python 2. pip3 is python 3
[10:58] <Explorer_> ok
[10:58] <ppf> choose the right one
[10:58] <k1l> Explorer_: lubuntu doesnt use the unity desktop at all.
[10:58] <Jakey3> ok
[10:58] <Explorer_> ok.
[10:59] <brunch875_> Jakey3, if you're going to be using pip, let me recommend you using a virtualenv
[11:00] <hh2010> ppf: ok, i understand that connecting to a server through an ip address is different than the server connecting to other applications
[11:00] <brunch875_> if something breaks while using a virtualenv, you can just delete the folder. If pip breaks something using the system libs... it's a bit messier to fix
[11:00] <ppf> hh2010: an interface (or, for the sake of argument, let's say "IP address") is connected to a network. which ip address packets are sent out on is decided based on the routing table using the destination address's network
[11:01] <Jakey3> brunch875_, ok
[11:01] <Explorer_> k1l, does it mean in Lubuntu I don't need to change any settings to enhance my security?
[11:01] <hh2010> got it… so perhaps we should look at the routing table then?
[11:01] <brunch875_> For installing stuff system-wide stuff I recommend using apt-get.
[11:01] <hh2010> seems like the interface is working fine then
[11:02] <ppf> if your machine has two addresses on the same network, then it'll always use the first one as a source address. you can rewrite that using the ip filter (iptables).
[11:02] <brunch875_> apt-get install python3-numpy and the like
[11:02] <hh2010> ok that is very helpful
[11:03] <hh2010> how do you think we can do that?
[11:03] <k1l> Explorer_: so you have not looked at the details but just heard someone saying "spyware" and you dont know what its about at all? no, Lubuntu doesnt use the unity desktop which got the desktop search included
[11:04] <Explorer_> ok. that's good.
[11:04] <Explorer_> k1l, thanks a lot.
[11:04] <hh2010> also, why is “iptables” appropriate here but not “ip route”?
[11:04] <ppf> hh2010: get familiar with iptables, i guess, and add the rewrite filters
[11:04] <hh2010> ok
[11:04] <ppf> because it's not a matter of the route but a matter of the packets you're sending
[11:05] <hh2010> oh jeez
[11:05] <hh2010> so id have to do it by port perhaps
[11:05] <Explorer_> any Indian here who uses Ubuntu?
[11:05] <ppf> the route just determines the outgoing ipaddress based solely on the destination
[11:05] <ppf> on the destination _network_
[11:06] <ppf> iptables can trigger rules by port, yes
[11:06] <ppf> and there's one route per destination network
[11:07] <hh2010> so would this route i am intending to create go on the “nat” table?
[11:09] <ppf> POSTROUTING and PREROUTING chains
[11:09] <ppf> i guess
[11:09] <hh2010> right
[11:09] <ppf> i'm not super familiar with iptables
[11:09] <hh2010> ok
[11:09] <hh2010> ive done a little with them
[11:09] <hh2010> what u are saying makes sense and has been very helpful
[11:10] <hh2010> thank you!
[11:25] <madm1ke> I have trouble using two monitors with Displayport 1.2 (daisy chained) with a nvidia K2000 gpu on ubuntu 16.04 (proprietary nvidia-367). The setup works fine with my laptop (intel gpu). But Ubuntu only lists one display although I can see a mirrored image on both of them. Anyone familiar with that kind of stuff?
[11:29] <hateball> madm1ke: I've seen (old) release notes about similar stuff... Personally I'd use the PPA and install nvidia-378 and see if it is magically fixed
[11:29] <hateball> the old release notes were for <367 drivers, but also for older chipsets, so
[11:30] <madm1ke> hateball: hm, worth a shot
[11:31] <hateball> madm1ke: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-378
[11:31] <madm1ke> hateball: on it already :)
[11:31] <hateball> madm1ke: and if that breaks things you can always apt install nvidia-367
[11:31] <hateball> madm1ke: :)
[11:32] <madm1ke> hateball: I read that nouveau has initial MST support in linux 4.10 - is there a ppa for that as well by any chance? :)
[11:32] <hateball> madm1ke: nouveau is in the kernel, the closest you'd get is using a !mainline kernel I guess
[11:33] <madm1ke> yeah, I meant a ppa for linux-4.10 (rc) :)
[11:33] <hateball> !mainline
[11:33] <Jakey3> up and running with virtual env in python now with pip3
[11:36] <vmuresan_> Hey! How can I use the zip command to create a zip that its name is the current date? eg: 02.15.2017.zip
[11:40] <Psychonaut> madm1ke, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.10-rc8/
[11:40] <hateball> vmuresan_: zip $(date +FORMAT).zip /dir/to/zip
[11:41] <hateball> vmuresan_: you'll need to read the manpage for date to get your desired format, I dont know the syntax offhand
[11:42] <k1l> madm1ke: keep in mind that those mainline kernels are missing most ubuntu patches and cant be supported in here. and they dont update automatically
[11:44] <hateball> vmuresan_: in your case it'd be date +%m.%d.%Y
[11:45] <vmuresan_> I'll try it right now
[11:45] <vmuresan_> hateball, it works!
[11:45] <vmuresan_> thanks!
[11:45] <max3> this is a line from a bash script. args are store in opt. what does `$setup configure --user -f ${opt[p]+-}devel` do if p is passed in as an arg?
[11:46] <vmuresan_> thanks!
[12:07] <yeeve> I have an apache issue where if I setup a default vhost for _default_:443 it breaks the other already-configured SSL vhosts. seems like a bug, anyone had similar?
[12:10] <osc_khoj> Hi, I met system crash, and gather the kdump..I think it's the bug, ..how can I do?
[12:10] <Guest137> hi, i´m new to linux. i need to know how to configure lirc to react on my rc6 remote. inside kodi everything works, but outside nothing happens. i like to map a programstart to a button and volume buttons.
[12:12] <osc_khoj> "Kernel panic - not syncing: NMI: Not continuing" --it's the first sentence to enter the crash...
[12:15] <WolfGirl> Hi guys, looking to get minecraft working here but the launcher is throwing up crazy messages about a java ssl exceptions. i've googled the hell out of it for hours no to no avail. can anyone help? ; o )
[12:15] <WolfGirl> Message me if you can, thanks
[12:16] <WolfGirl> why's nobody talking?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:18] <osc_khoj> My system is crashed ,and how can I upload to ubuntu community.?
[12:19] <WolfGirl_BSX> Hi guys, looking to get minecraft working here but the launcher is throwing up crazy messages about a java ssl exceptions. i've googled the hell out of it for hours no to no avail. can anyone help? ; o )
[12:20] <WolfGirl_BSX> I'm using OpenJRE 8 runtime if it helps, but I've also tried Oracle's
[12:20] <WolfGirl_BSX> It's driving me crazy x
[12:21] <k1l> WolfGirl_BSX: if you wait for someone to ask for more details, that might not happen. so show the specific errormessages in pastebins and name the exact OS and issue in here with linking to those pastebins.
[12:21] <WolfGirl_BSX> Oh okay, thanks, its the first time ive used this channel. didnt think people would want spammy messages
[12:21] <WolfGirl_BSX> okay two seconds.
[12:23] <k1l> WolfGirl_BSX: not spammy messages, but we dont want to waist the first hour to just gather the information to see if one could help or not :)
[12:25] <WolfGirl_BSX> yeah i see, thanks, i get you. im just trying to get past the captcha, isnt working
[12:25] <Jiri_> I am stuck to 800x600 video resolution in Ubuntu 14.04, I have tried many things from forums, but nothing helped. randr outputs maximum resolution as 800x600
[12:25] <k1l> WolfGirl_BSX: you can use paste.ubuntu.com
[12:25] <WolfGirl_BSX> oh its okay, ive done it now
[12:26] <brunch875_> Jiri_, was resolution any better in the live image?
[12:26] <brunch875_> I mean, through the installer
[12:26] <Jiri_> How can I change the default resolution to 1366x768?
[12:26] <Jiri_> In the instalation the resolution was the same.
[12:27] <Jiri_> What is "the live image"?
[12:27] <k1l> Jiri_: that sounds like wrong video driver or some adapter involved. or the card is that old and not supported anymore (like SIS cards)
[12:27] <WolfGirl_BSX> Hey guys, need help running minecraft. Currenctly running Lubuntu 16.10 x64 (latest) with OpenJRE 8. wondering if anyone would message for help? error in question here, thank you http://pastebin.com/Bg2Vu3gQ
[12:27] <osc_khoj> I met the system panic  about Kernel panic - not syncing: NMI: Not continuing http://paste.ubuntu.com/24000622/
[12:27] <mdzn> hey, i'm having problems with python3.6 in ubuntu yakkety
[12:28] <mdzn> python3.5 is okay, self-compiled 3.6 is okay as well
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Jiri_:  resolution during the install was the same as what?
[12:28] <Jiri_> I have installed exactly same Ubuntu version for 2 years ago and could use higher resolutions.
[12:28] <mdzn> but 3.6 in yakkety is beta version, when python 3.6 is stable already
[12:29] <mdzn> more specifically: i can't use mypy
[12:29] <mdzn> https://hastebin.com/monenevoxo.sql
[12:29] <mdzn> cpython isn't able to determine MRO
[12:29] <Jiri_> The resolution during the install was 800x600.
[12:29] <mdzn> should i report it to ubuntu bug tracker?
[12:29] <akin> hello
[12:31] <k1l> WolfGirl_BSX: you need the oracle java to run minecraft
[12:31] <osc_khoj> WolfGirl_BSX: I think you have some trouble in internet line...I can download it...
[12:32] <WolfGirl_BSX> yes, i have tried the oracle jre also
[12:32] <k1l> WolfGirl_BSX: but wait
[12:32] <WolfGirl_BSX> they both produce the same
[12:32] <k1l> WolfGirl_BSX: try a "sudo update-ca-certificates -f"
[12:32] <Jiri_> Is there any solution to get higher resolution than 800x600?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Jiri_:  run, sudo ubuntu-drivers list , in the terminal and choose the correct driver, not sure about unity/gnome whether a recommended driver is listed there
[12:33] <WolfGirl_BSX> OMG K1L
[12:33] <k1l> Jiri_: what video card is it? are adapters involved? what happend before it didnt work anymore? what ubuntu is it exactly? what kernel?
[12:33] <WolfGirl_BSX> LITERALLY THAT ONE COMMAND
[12:33] <osc_khoj> Is there anyone to help analyzing the kdump?
[12:33] <WolfGirl_BSX> i could kiss you. ive been at this for 2 and a half hours
[12:33] <Jiri_> AMD
[12:33] <WolfGirl_BSX> it works:D
[12:33] <osc_khoj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24000622/
[12:33] <WolfGirl_BSX> my niece is gonna be so happy, thanks : )
[12:33] <k1l> WolfGirl_BSX: ok, have fun
[12:33] <Jiri_> Its a laptop, HP Pavilion
[12:33] <WolfGirl_BSX> thanks again xx
[12:36] <osc_khoj> If I want to ask the kdump analysis, how can I do that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24000622/
[12:38] <Jiri_> The command "sudo ubuntu-drivers list" gave this output: fglrx and fglrx-updates
[12:38] <k1l> k1l> Jiri_: what video card is it? are adapters involved? what happend before it didnt work anymore? what ubuntu is it exactly? what kernel?
[12:38] <EriC^^> Jiri_: what does "xrandr -q" show ?
[12:40] <Jiri_> The video card (AMD) is inside the laptop. I reinstalled the operating system Ubuntu 14.04 and after that I could not cooze any other resolution than 800x600. I do not know what kernel it is.
[12:41] <k1l> Jiri_: uname -a tells you the kernel
[12:42] <Jiri_> here is output from uname -a: HP-Pavilion-17-Notebook-PC 3.13.0-108-generic #155-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 11 16:58:52 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:42] <anddam> Jiri_: so 3.13.0
[12:42] <Jiri_> Yes
[12:42] <anddam> Jiri_: read EriC^^ 's question
[12:43] <DexterF> hi
[12:43] <anddam> Jiri_: also use just -r in order to check kernel from uname
[12:43] <anddam> Jiri_: I usually just do -rms
[12:44] <DexterF> if I wanted to create a live usb hdd that boots on efi and legacy systems alike, what are my options? there was a live-builder once but discontinued since 2014
[12:44] <EriC^^> !customiso
[12:44] <EriC^^> !customlivecd
[12:44] <EriC^^> DexterF: ^
[12:44] <DexterF> EriC^^, thanks
[12:44] <Jiri_> -rms gave this output: could not find command
[12:45] <EriC^^> Jiri_: try "xrandr -q | nc termbin.com 9999" paste the link it gives you here
[12:45] <EriC^^> Jiri_: also "lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:45] <k1l> Jiri_: and what video card is it? please run "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the link here
[12:46] <anddam> Jiri_: I obviously meant -rms as short options to uname
[12:46] <k1l> EriC^^: :)
[12:46] <EriC^^> :)
[12:47] <Jiri_> Answer no 1 to EriC^^ is xrandr -q gave this output: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Screen 0: minimum 800 x 600, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600 default connected primary 800x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm    800x600        75.0* 7
[12:47] <hateball> Sounds like a matter of either missing fglrx or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Desktop-1 , no?
[12:47] <prodeo12> xrandr ??/
[12:48] <k1l> hateball: if he wants to use fglrx he cant change the hwe staack because 16.04 doesnt support fglrx anymre
[12:48] <Jiri_> xrandr -q | nc termbin.com 9999 gave this output: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default http://termbin.com/q7u677
[12:48] <hateball> k1l: yea, thats what I meant by "either", perhaps poor grammar confused that
[12:48] <hateball> I dont use AMD myself so I don't know which is preferable on 14.04
[12:49] <anddam> why 14.04?
[12:49] <prodeo12> xrandr -q
[12:49] <anddam> I mean considering 16.04 is LTS
[12:49] <prodeo12> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[12:49] <prodeo12> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1280 x 1024
[12:49] <prodeo12> default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[12:49] <prodeo12>    1280x1024       0.0
[12:49] <prodeo12>    1024x768        0.0*
[12:49] <k1l> for 14.04 flgrx should be fine, if amd is still supporting that card
[12:49] <anddam> k1l: ah just read your answer about  14.04
[12:50] <Jiri_> lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999 gave this output: http://termbin.com/wt2i7
[12:51] <EriC^^> (link is without the 7 at the end)
[12:51] <EriC^^> Jiri_: try "dpkg -l | egrep "radeon|fglrx" | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:51] <Jiri_> Yes, you are right EriC^^, sorry.
[12:52] <EriC^^> Jiri_: dpkg -l | egrep "radeon|fglrx" | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:53] <Jiri_> here is the output: http://termbin.com/ouyd
[12:56] <EriC^^> Jiri_: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:57] <xc_> hi, my ubuntu 16.04 machine does not recognise my iOS 10.2 iPhone anymore, what can I do to fix this?
[12:57] <Jiri_> EriC^^ the output is: http://termbin.com/9s4i
[13:00] <chronicles> hi
[13:03] <EriC^^> Jiri_: how about trying a newer kernel from 16.04?
[13:03] <Jiri_> Yes! Which are the steps for this update?
[13:04] <EriC^^> Jiri_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Ubuntu_14.04_LTS_-_Trusty_Tahr
[13:08] <Jiri_> EriC^^ thanks for the link! The reason, why I did not install Ubuntu 16.04 is that my wireles modem did not work there. Are there good chances to get my wireles broadband to work after updating the kernel?
[13:09] <soee> is it normal that ssh cnnections uses cpus whole 1 core ?
[13:10] <EriC^^> Jiri_: which modem is it?
[13:10] <Jiri_> USB modem with Mobile Partner software
[13:11] <anddam> while connecting this 2-bay SATA USB3 box with a 1TB drive in it I get a lot of https://gist.github.com/anddam/f28ad01221faa17a29a5e55ae748115e
[13:11] <anddam> is the disk faulty?
[13:11] <Chrismeister> Yesterday, all Windows frooze in my Ubuntu 16.10 installation. Not Unity menu and leftside icons - only ALL windows (they could not be moved or clicked in). Has anyone experienced this before and is this a known bug?
[13:12] <Chrismeister> I just restarted my computer and everything has worked since
[13:13] <z1haze_work> what is the proper permissions stuff for web server folders? is the folder like mysite.com supposed to be owned by the root and the contents owned by the webserver, or is the folder itself supposed to be owned by the webserver?
[13:14] <anddam> Zialus: I'd go with webserver
[13:14] <anddam> for no particular reason
[13:14] <EriC^^> Jiri_: did you try the software from software-center?
[13:15] <EriC^^> Jiri_: modem-manager-gui
[13:15] <Jiri_> EriC^^ I have made all available updates. Any specific software you recommend me?
[13:18] <akinode> Hey, I can't seem to get shared clipboard working on virtualbox, I've been trying to resolve this issue for the last 30 minutes but nothing seems to be working. Can anyone help me?
[13:18] <Jiri_> EriC^^ I typed modem-manager-gui in Terminal and it seems not to be installed. I will try to find it and install.
[13:20] <ivan__> xz
[13:20] <Jiri_> EriC^^ I am sorry, as a beginner I do not know how to install modem-manager-gui Would you please help me?
[13:21] <ivan__> hello
[13:21] <hateball> Jiri_: sudo apt install modem-manager-gui
[13:22] <Southern_Gentlem> akinode, do you have the vbox tools installed in the guest
[13:22] <Southern_Gentlem> and do you have the extended tools installed on the host
[13:23] <akinode> isn't it enough to select bidirectional in the box where it says shared clipboard?
[13:23] <GreySunshine> Hello! I want python to check for imports in site-packages by default. How do I do this? I saw this (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/122327/how-do-i-find-the-location-of-my-python-site-packages-directory). But this way I have to modify the sys.path, is there a better way to do it?
[13:26] <Jiri_> Many thank hateboll for the command. Now M1odem Manager is installed and tells: huawei E3276 Version:21.436.03.00.56 Port:ttyUSB1 Type:GSM
[13:29] <Jiri_> EriC^^ what do you think? Should I update the kernel with this modem version?
[13:29] <Jiri_> huawei E3276 Version:21.436.03.00.56 Port:ttyUSB1 Type:GSM
[13:30] <EriC^^> Jiri_: yeah give it a shot
[13:30] <EriC^^> Jiri_: you can always uninstall the packages and install the old ones back if it doesn't work out
[13:30] <Jiri_> EriC^^ is there any simple way to undo this update?
[13:30] <Jiri_> OK
[13:30] <EriC^^> they're saved in /var/log/apt/term.log , it'll say exactly what it did to update there
[13:31] <ploy> hey sorry if this is a bit off topic, but at least one of you guys is close to a gnu/linux machine. could someone give me the output of: awk '/^\//{lsblk = "lsblk -rno UUID "$1; lsblk | getline uuid; close(lsblk); print uuid, $0}' /proc/mounts
[13:31] <himcesjf> How to digitally sign a PDF or a word document in Ubuntu?
[13:31] <Jiri_> EriC^^ should I now type in terminal this line?    sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial
[13:31] <EriC^^> Jiri_: yes
[13:35] <EriC^^> ploy: http://termbin.com/qd2g
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[13:36] <ploy> awesome thanks
[13:36] <akinode> Southern_Gentlem is there anything else I should try? I simply downloaded and installed virtualbox
[13:37] <akinode> Southern_Gentlem What else do I need to install on my main and guest machine?
[13:37] <Jiri_> EriC^^ the command generated some error messages, half swedish half english. The screen resolution is still stuck to 800x600.
[13:37] <seigen99> おは
[13:38] <hateball> Jiri_: you'd need a reboot to use the new kernel anyhow
[13:38] <seigen99> ouch
[13:38] <seigen99> I mistake
[13:38] <Jiri_> OK, thanks hateball!
[13:38] <hateball> Jiri_: pastebin the command + error so we can see
[13:41] <Jiri_> Here is the complet image from terminal (sorry for swedish language in error messages): eva@eva-HP-Pavilion-17-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial Läser paketlistor... Färdig Bygger beroendeträd          Läser tillståndsinformation... 
[13:41] <MkllTech_> Hello!
[13:42] <EriC^^> Jiri_: try LANG=C
[13:42] <Jiri_> Translation: Some packages could not be installed.
[13:42] <EriC^^> then runt he command
[13:42] <EriC^^> Oh ok
[13:44] <Jiri_> I typed LANG=C but the output from updating did not change.
[13:46] <Pici> Jiri_: you need to prefix your command with that, i.e.: LANG=C sudo apt-get ...
[13:46] <Jiri_> OK, thank you Pici
[13:47] <Jiri_> Should I type the command for updating kernel once again LANG1=C in front of it?
[13:51] <Jiri_> EriC^^ here is the english output from the kernel update: eva@eva-HP-Pavilion-17-Notebook-PC:~$ LANG=C sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial [sudo] password for eva:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information...
[13:51] <EriC^^> Jiri_: nothing else?
[13:52] <Jiri_> eva@eva-HP-Pavilion-17-Notebook-PC:~$ LANG=C sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial [sudo] password for eva:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean 
[13:52] <Pici> perhaps a pastebin would be best for this
[13:52] <EriC^^> Jiri_: add "| nc termbin.com 9999" to the command
[13:53] <Jiri_> EriC^^ OK, I will add it to the end of the command.
[13:55] <yos_sarian> hi?
[13:56] <Jiri_> EriC^^ here is the result: LANG=C sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial | nc termbin.com 9999 E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. http://termbin.com/b99n
[13:58] <Guest24352> hi, i am using Ubuntu 14.04. My dell laptop with 4GB RAM freezes suddenly. all i wasusing was chromium with a bunch of tabs and terminal. need help, why does it keep freezing?
[13:59] <EriC^^> Jiri_: try "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:00] <johnhamelink> Hey folks, I've recently upgraded our CI server from ubuntu trusty to xenial, but I'm struggling with some weird insserv errors when I attempt to run apt-get upgrade:
[14:00] <Jiri_> EriC^^ http://termbin.com/35er
[14:01] <johnhamelink> http://termbin.com/v388
[14:02] <EriC^^> Jiri_: "dpkg -l | grep xenial | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:03] <Jiri_> EriC^^ output: Use netcat.
[14:03] <EriC^^> Jiri_: try again, it does that sometimes
[14:05] <Jiri_> EriC^^ I have now tired 4 times. Still the same output: Use netcat.
[14:05] <EriC^^> Jiri_: ok, try sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:05] <k1l> use netcat means "no output"
[14:05] <EriC^^> then dpkg -l | grep xenial | pastebinit
[14:06] <Jiri_> EriC^^ here is the output: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following NEW packages will be installed:   pastebinit 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 629 not upgraded. Need to get 14.9 kB of archives. After this operation, 168 kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main pastebinit all 1.4-3 [14.9 kB] Fetch
[14:07] <hateball> Jiri_: you'll probably want to run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[14:08] <hateball> Jiri_: to make sure repos are up-to-date
[14:08] <EriC^^> i have 16.04 and libgles2-mesa is installed, and it mentions it as a conflict for Jiri_ ...
[14:09] <Jiri_> EriC^^ dpkg -l | grep xenial | pastebinit gave this error message: You try to send an empty document.
[14:09] <EriC^^> Jiri_: ok, try hateball 's command
[14:10] <EriC^^> this is odd, "apt-cache search <something>" is hanging for me, is it just me?
[14:10] <Jiri_> hateboll and EriC^^ should I run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" now?
[14:10] <hateball> EriC^^: Perhaps not, but it works fine for me at any rate
[14:10] <hateball> Jiri_: yes
[14:11] <riccardo_> Hello
[14:11] <EriC^^> i'll try restarting
[14:11] <riccardo_> I'm having this problem
[14:11] <hateball> Jiri_: and if there are updates pending, you will asked to sa Ja/Nej to apply them
[14:11] <riccardo_> sudo rm -R /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[14:11] <EriC^^> brb
[14:11] <riccardo_> wait
[14:11] <riccardo_> http://pastebin.com/RuU43Ess
[14:11] <riccardo_> I'm having this problem
[14:11] <riccardo_> Hash Mismatch
[14:12] <riccardo_> What am I supposed to do?
[14:12] <hateball> riccardo_: try a different mirror
[14:12] <k1l> its the intel "driver" repo again?
[14:12] <EriC^^> riccardo_: did you run "sudo apt-get update" first?
[14:16] <CrazySane> Good morning all.
[14:17] <EriC^^> Jiri_: i'll brb, restarting
[14:18] <riccardo_> hateball: I did it
[14:18] <riccardo_> @k1l Yes
[14:18] <Jiri_> EriC^^ the command is still going on, 9% finished.
[14:22] <arya__> hi, i am using Ubuntu 14.04. My dell laptop with 4GB RAM freezes suddenly. all i was using was chromium with a bunch of tabs and the terminal. need help, why does it keep freezing?
[14:23] <ikevin> arya__, does it fully freeze or you can ctrl+f1?
[14:24] <CrazySane> ikevin: did you mean CTRL+ALT+F1?
[14:24] <ikevin> CrazySane, yep, i've made a mistake :x
[14:25] <CrazySane> ikevin: teamwork!
[14:26] <arya__> ikevin: CrazySane: that works sometimes. how ever i prefer to restart the laptop by long pressing the power button
[14:26] <ikevin> if ctrl+alt+f1 is working, login and see in dmesg if you have some errors
[14:26] <CrazySane> arya__: ikevin asked because if it lets you get to tty1, then it's just xserver that's locking up. If you can't get to tty1 then you have larger problems.
[14:28] <CrazySane> arya__: if you can get to a console, login and type   dmesg | tail    and see if you have any errors printing out.
[14:28] <arya__> okay
[14:29] <CrazySane> arya__: tail will give you only the last 10 lines, so if you don't see one, we may have to go back further.
[14:29] <arya__> CrazySane: okay
[14:30] <DArqueBishop> CrazySane: not if you use the -n parameter to specify how many lines are output initially.
[14:30] <CrazySane> DArqueBishop: Truth. That's where I was going if the default 10 lines didn't cut it.
[14:30] <ppf> maybe throw in a free -h first
[14:32] <arya__> CrazySane: http://pastebin.com/NjVmJAzs
[14:33] <CrazySane> arya__: It wouldn't tell us anything helpful unless you just had a lockup, and pasted that from a terminal (which wouldn't happen) so I assume you just did it on a functioning system.
[14:34] <CrazySane> arya__: To do it from a working system, I'll need someone with more internal knowledge to step in and help root out the right log.
[14:35] <arya__> CrazySane: the laptop froze, i restarted it and pasted the results of the command you told
[14:36] <arya__> CrazySane: would that not work?
[14:36] <helo> is upgrading directly from 14.04 to 16.04 supported?
[14:36] <CrazySane> arya__: No. Because the dmesg is filled up again by the subsequent boot.
[14:36] <arya__> CrazySane: oh, okay!
[14:36] <Pici> helo: yes!
[14:36] <CrazySane> helo: I beleive so. Yes.
[14:36] <helo> i don't see it listed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes?_ga=1.171388320.1842402172.1486054956
[14:36] <arya__> CrazySane: can nothing be done now?
[14:37] <ppf> arya__: no
[14:37] <CrazySane> arya__: Likely their is, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know exactly which log to inspect to root out the issue.
[14:37] <k1l> helo: , yes it is
[14:37] <helo> thanks :)
[14:37] <ppf> you can check old dmesg logs in /var/log/dmesg
[14:37] <arya__> CrazySane: ppf okay. thank you for the help
[14:38] <k1l> helo: that page is a bit outdated
[14:38] <ppf> arya__: there's a small chance there's still something there
[14:39] <CrazySane> !dmesg
[14:39] <CrazySane> Ugh. ubottu knows everything.
[14:40] <compdoc> makes us look bad
[14:42] <arya__> ubottu: if the buffer is ring (circular), that could overwrite the error logs, right? if not, how to retrive those?
[14:48] <MannyLNJ> [Question] Why can I connect to mobile hotspot on my Android phone but not the mobile hotspot on my iPhone 7 from my ideapad with Ubuntu?
[14:49] <LittleJohn> Now i got a really big problem, I can't install or even test Ubuntu 16.04LTS on my pc (ERST: Can not request [mem 0x9d43f03f-0x9d44103e] for ERST.) Is the first problem, I really hope someone can help me,
[14:49] <LittleJohn> Forgot to say that this message comes when i try to test ubuntu
[14:51] <LittleJohn> (Ive tried everything, Been trying to fix this for about 4-5 years now on my own...)
[14:52] <CrazySane> LittleJohn: Does this help you: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/erst-can-not-request-iomem-region-dell-1950-20-gig-mem.10413/#post-61040
[14:52] <niceguy> so, any friendly people here?
[14:52] <LittleJohn> I shull tet it, thou i must search on how to bring the console foward first..
[14:52] <RGamma> quit
[14:52] <CrazySane> LittleJohn: Looks like turning off erst is the only answer I can find.
[14:53] <k1l> niceguy: this is the ubuntu technical support. you know that, you have been here before :)
[14:53] <LittleJohn> hmm, ehm it says that it updates grub, I do not think my pc even has grub, it has windows so
[14:53] <LittleJohn> i can post more errors from this
[14:54] <LittleJohn> i got many
[14:54] <CrazySane> LittleJohn: Are you booting a live CD?
[14:54] <LittleJohn> next one is [sdc] No caching mode page found
[14:55] <LittleJohn> i am boting the 1,4 gb iso files ubuntu 16.04LTS (test mode)
[14:55] <niceguy> k1l: Yup buddy. thx. I didn't know that anyone would remember me. But you did. *wipes tears and feels special.
[14:55] <LittleJohn> thrue usb
[14:55] <LittleJohn> sory for my bad spelling :/
[14:57] <CrazySane> When the grub loader comes up, press escape to cancel auto-boot, and then press 'e' to edit the boot options and add the aforementioned arguement.
[14:57] <CrazySane> LittleJohn: Here's more info about how to change boot options in GRUB at boot:
[14:57] <CrazySane> https://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html
[14:57] <niceguy> So here's the thing. I was thinking about doing that PHC kernel thing to my ubuntu. And I need an advice about that. k1l
[14:57] <MannyLNJ> Where else can I go for help with this issue --->[Question] Why can I connect to mobile hotspot on my Android phone but not the mobile hotspot on my iPhone 7 from my ideapad with Ubuntu?
[14:58] <LittleJohn> i have teted turning of fast mod alreaddy
[14:58] <LittleJohn> tested*
[14:58] <k1l> niceguy: i dont know what "that PHC kernel thing" is. but if you ask a specific question i guess someone in here might help you if its ubuntu relatec
[14:59] <niceguy> k1l: I was referring to this: http://www.linux-phc.org
[14:59] <niceguy> k1l: just wanted to make sure it was safe and compatible with Xenial.
[15:00] <himcesjf> How to digitally sign a PDF or a word document in Ubuntu?
[15:00] <k1l> niceguy: i dont know if its compatible with ubuntu kernels. i think you have to ask the phc guys about how safe it is and if it works with standard ubuntu kernels
[15:01] <OerHeks> niceguy, CPUFreq could do that
[15:01] <CrazySane> himcesjf: this looks useful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/147379/how-do-i-digitally-sign-a-pdf
[15:01] <OerHeks> !info cpufrequtils
[15:02] <k1l> niceguy: that page looks very outdated to be honest
[15:02] <OerHeks> niceguy, and a tread on the forum > https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330427
[15:02] <LittleJohn> CrazySane I only see In OS useage on that page (I do not even come in on the OS)
[15:03] <niceguy> OerHeks: thanks buddyx *thumbs up.
[15:03] <mustmodify> So my ubuntu machine normally lives at 192.168.1.25. I just restarted it because it said patches blah blah restart required. Now it's at ...3. Can I get it to request .25 from my router? Or do I have to go into the router and set up a static IP?
[15:03] <CrazySane> LittleJohn: The top part of that second link I sent you tells you how to edit the boot options pre-boot.
[15:04] <u0_a78> Heihei
[15:05] <Mindbubble> Hey
[15:05] <u0_a78> Im typing on my note4 through termux
[15:05] <LittleJohn> CrazySane The top one says "Time to check out Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)" and the pictures shows a update is goin on
[15:06] <u0_a78> this is awesome
[15:06] <CrazySane> LittleJohn: Standby
[15:07] <LittleJohn> ok
[15:07] <himcesjf> CrazySane: It looks useful but it isn't. None of the options there worked which is why I am asking here after using Goolge
[15:08] <CrazySane> LittleJohn: Try this: https://pastebin.com/5WU9ELVE
[15:10] <tckf> has anyone here been able to install i3 gaps onto ubuntu
[15:11] <ducasse> tckf: just install the i3 build dependencies and build it from source
[15:13] <LittleJohn> CrazySane I cant try that one, the first thing it said is to trigger E when the 3 sec count down comes, I do not even get a count down and it mentions a kernel, I do not have a kernel its DOS and no kernel
[15:13] <KM4QKW> u0_a78 i recognize the nick from Termux :)
[15:13] <KM4QKW> did screen ever work on Termux?
[15:14] <KM4QKW> well men I have a serious question this morning
[15:14] <compdoc> dont us women get to answer?
[15:14] <KM4QKW> Will the Next Ubuntu be called Zebra? Asking for a friend
[15:15] <mustmodify> wow, ok. So I set up an address reservation for 192.168.1.25, released and renewed my IP, and now it's 192.168.1.17
[15:15] <k1l> KM4QKW: no, it will be zesty
[15:15] <LittleJohn> CrazySane I did a picture of the error screen, is it alowed to upload the pic and then give you the link here ?
[15:15] <k1l> !17.04 | KM4QKW
[15:15] <mustmodify> So now I'm all confused.
[15:15] <KM4QKW> Zesty Zebra wouldve been too cliche
[15:16] <compdoc> mustmodify, you defined the mac address is the reservation? you sure .1.25 is not in use?
[15:16] <compdoc> *in the
[15:17] <CrazySane> LittleJohn: you can drop it on imgur
[15:18] <CrazySane> LittleJohn: I have to AFK for a few. Real job calls. :)
[15:18] <LittleJohn> CrazySane imgur.com/a/zknoc
[15:21] <k1l> LittleJohn: optical drive in that machine?
[15:22] <BadCodSmell> Ubuntu keeps saying problem detected, how can I have it show me the problem rather than say report problem?
[15:22] <k1l> LittleJohn: looks like that is a known issue for some (crappy) mainboards when there is an optical drive (cd-dvd) on the sata ports. try to change the sata ports or remove the optical drive at all
[15:23] <OerHeks> BadCodSmell, there is a button 'details'
[15:23] <BadCodSmell> no there isnt
[15:23] <BadCodSmell> It's "Cancel" | "Report Problem"
[15:23] <OerHeks> Normally there should be ...
 LittleJohn: looks like that is a known issue for some (crappy) mainboards when there is an optical drive (cd-dvd) on the sata ports. try to change the sata ports or remove the optical drive at all
[15:24] <EriC^> BadCodSmell: try report problem
[15:24] <EriC^> then see if you get any details or something
[15:25] <BadCodSmell> But I don't want to report problem
[15:25] <LittleJohn_> Sorry CrazySane , my wifi died (i accedently pulled the wifi turn off thingy)
[15:25] <BadCodSmell> It might release private information
[15:25] <OerHeks> BadCodSmell, no it does not. but hit cancel if you don't want to.
[15:26] <BadCodSmell> OerHeks: You can't know that.
[15:27] <OerHeks> BadCodSmell, then don't go on the internet. this is so FUD
[15:27] <LittleJohn_> CrazySane do you see anything in the picture that is the obvius problem ?
[15:27] <k1l> LittleJohn_: did you saw my message?
[15:27] <k1l> LittleJohn_: usually that erst error is not an issue
[15:27] <LittleJohn_> k1l no sorry i got dc'd
[15:27] <BadCodSmell> OerHeks there was an article recently about hostile users like you on slashdot.
[15:27] <k1l> scroll up
[15:28] <sallu> Hi everyOne
[15:28] <MannyLNJ> Hi Sallu
[15:28] <LittleJohn_> k1l Oh i wil try it, Optical dive is the DVD right ?
[15:28] <sallu> There was a command to reduce boot time window
[15:28] <sallu> what is the command
[15:29] <k1l> LittleJohn_: yes
[15:29] <sallu> i have now 4 seconds now, i want to make it 2 seconds . it was 10 seconds when i installed ubuntu first time, but i forgot the command
[15:29] <sallu> hi MannyLNJ
[15:30] <k1l> sallu: its in the /etc/defaults/grub file
[15:30] <sallu> k1l, yeah but its easy if you simply execute the command without manually gedit the file
[15:31] <koleygr> sallu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43020/decrease-grub-timeout
[15:31] <sallu> koleygr, checking
[15:31] <LittleJohn_> YEY ! k1l thanks alot i think that solved it :D thou il stay here a little bit more, feels like its gonna go crappy anyways
[15:31] <k1l> sallu: you need to edit that file since otherwise it will be overwritten by kernel updates again
[15:32] <ducasse> BadCodSmell: those logs are scrubbed, anything that might possibly be private is only visible to the developers
[15:33] <sallu> k1l, yeah ok
[15:33] <ducasse> BadCodSmell: also - reading slashdot in 2017? seriously?
[15:34] <LittleJohn_> k1l Now where did you found that its a usual problem ? You must have known it urself, ive been searching for mouths for a solution
[15:37] <CrazySane> thanks for the assistance k1l
[15:38] <CrazySane> I was afk
[15:41] <oumlil> hi
[15:42] <CrazySane> Hi oumlil, do you need help?
[15:42] <uddane> hello, I need to add HD storage to my 16.04 machine... I was thinking 2TB should be a decent upgrade. Any suggestions on the brand? Usually I get WD Red
[15:43] <oumlil> yes Crazysane, i want to install whatsapp on ubuntu
[15:44] <k1l> LittleJohn_: i was wondering about the erst error. but that was not relevant, its more a warning than an error. but the ata issues looked familiar to me from other users in here reporting that.
[15:44] <Guest91880> hello
[15:44] <anddam> is it possible to read SMART data from an USB SATA adapter?
[15:44] <CrazySane> oumlil: I'm not qualified to help you there. Perhaps someone else will be able to.
[15:45] <anddam> oumlil: define "install whatsapp"
[15:45] <LittleJohn_> k1l okey, well so far so good, im at Country sellect now...
[15:46] <k1l> anddam: if the controller on the other end of the usb cable supports that : yes
[15:46] <CrazySane> anddam: it looks like it's dependent on the USB adapter hardware: https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices
[15:46] <anddam> so given I bought the cheapest I found I figure the answer is "no way"
[15:46] <anddam> I'll check it out as soon as I finish copying data, thanks
[15:47] <anddam> also how to chek actual drive speed, hdparm -t?
[15:47] <anddam> or an actual dd and check the average speed
[15:48] <CrazySane> anddam: looking through the man page, it looks like #hdparm -tT /dev/sdX   would do it?
[15:49] <ducasse> anddam: bonnie++ is a good tool to benchmark disk performance
[15:49]  * CrazySane notes bonnie++
[15:50] <anddam> CrazySane: well, that's what I said :-)
[15:50] <anddam> I know hdparm, (also I'd skip the cached reading) but I was asking if that's the proper tool
[15:50] <anddam> bonnie++, duly noted
[15:50] <anddam> I just want a rough idea of the speed
[15:51] <ducasse> anddam: bonnie++ is better if you know what kind of workload you'll have. for rough idea hdparm is ok.
[15:54] <akinode> Hey, does anyone here know how exactly config.guess works?
[15:54] <LittleJohn_> I knew it, still cant instal ubuntu
[15:54] <akinode> How can I execute it?
[15:55] <LittleJohn_> says now Reboot and select proper Boot device or insert boot media in selected Boot device and press key
[15:55] <apodio> hey there
[15:55] <apodio> I am trying to do something totally silly
[15:55] <apodio> ahaha
[15:55] <apodio> I do this: cat log3.txt | padsp tee /dev/audio > /dev/null
[15:56] <apodio> works fine
[15:56] <apodio> play a file into the sound card
[15:56] <apodio> but I am trying to do the same
[15:56] <apodio> with the monitor/graphhical card
[15:56] <apodio> any ideas?
[15:56] <apodio> I've been to /dev/dri/*
[15:56] <admin2_> i need usb ac wifi compatible...?
[15:56] <CrazySane> !enter
[15:57] <apodio> ok sorry
[15:57] <Jiri_> EriC^^ are you still here?
[15:57] <LittleJohn_> (It said it was completed the installation)
[15:58] <k1l> LittleJohn_: ? so reboot the machine?
[16:01] <LittleJohn_> k1l I did thou it came back the message, now i am looking if its the boot order thats the problem
[16:02] <anddam> akinode: what file is that?
[16:02] <Gabros93> signori buonasera
[16:02] <LittleJohn_> Message stil comes, Damn ***** hate this now
[16:03] <Gabros93> sono riuscito a collegare il mio smartphone ad ubuntu 16.04
[16:03] <Jiri_> Is there anybody who could help me with getting higher resolution than 800x600 in Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[16:03] <Gabros93> solo che non riesco a vedere le anteprime delle immagini
[16:03] <anddam> Gabros93: English, please
[16:03] <Gabros93> sorry
[16:03] <k1l> !it | Gabros93
[16:03] <anddam> Gabros93: there's an Italian channel someplace, if you really need it
[16:04] <Gabros93> i have to connect my smartphone to ubuntu 16.04
[16:04] <Jiri_> I have updated kernel to 16.04 but that did not help.
[16:04] <LittleJohn_> I triggerd F11 now to choice the SSD thou now it came a message in swedish saying Operation system can not start
[16:04] <Gabros93> i cant's see photos or video
[16:04] <anddam> Gabros93: and what "connect" means, act as a modem to reach the Internet or browse the phone data?
[16:05] <Gabros93> anddam, no, "connect" to import my photos and video
[16:05] <Gabros93> trough usb
[16:05] <anddam> Gabros93: what OS is running on the phone?
[16:06] <Jiri_> ioria, do you think you could help me, please?
[16:06] <Gabros93> anddam, Windows Phone 10
[16:06] <anddam> never seen one but I figure it's going to use MTD
[16:07] <anddam> s/MTD/MTP/
[16:07] <Gabros93> anddam, what i have to do?
[16:08] <akinode> anddam http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/config.guess.1.html
[16:08] <akinode> anddam I think it's supposed to give me general information over my system
[16:08] <akinode> anddam like how many cores my processor has etc
[16:09] <anddam> akinode: good, so it's a command already, just run it
[16:10] <anddam> Gabros93: I don't know, I never used a windows phone. I'd search the web for "windows phone ubuntu USB"
[16:10] <ducasse> akinode: it's just used to guess the architecture a package is built for and the host system, not for general system info
[16:11] <ioria> Jiri_, what's up ?
[16:11] <LittleJohn_> This is really weird, when i triggerd F11 this time i got two more options called Ubuntu then some weird charecter, I have booted up the OS now thou i think i must format drive A its none responsive and gives errors
[16:11] <anddam> in fact is something I've met in autotools "complex" packages
[16:11] <anddam> ioria: it's "Siri", if you pronounce it "Jiri" the phone won't answer
[16:12] <ioria> Siri ?
[16:12] <anddam> ioria: it's a joke like if you were talking to an iphone
[16:12] <anddam> ioria | Jiri_, what's up ?
[16:12] <ioria> oh, ok :þ
[16:12] <anddam> need moar coffee
[16:13] <ioria> Jiri_, what's your problem ?
[16:13] <Jiri_> anddam, video card in this laptop does not allow any other resolution except 800x600
[16:13] <ioria> Jiri_, amd ati card ?
[16:13] <Jiri_> Yes
[16:14] <Jiri_> It is HP Pavilion
[16:14] <ioria> Jiri_,  dpkg -l | fglrx*
[16:15] <Jiri_> I typed "dpkg -l | fglrx*" in terminal and got message "does not find command"
[16:15] <ioria> Jiri_,  sorry,   dpkg -l | grep fglrx*
[16:15] <gimpy2938> just tried to install updates on 16.04; ran out of space in /boot like always; ran `apt autoremove --purge`; now kernel packages are broken and apt cries about an impossible situation...what do?
[16:16] <Jiri_> thank you ioria, I typed that command in terminal, did not get any otput
[16:16] <ioria> Jiri_,   sudo lshw -C Video
[16:18] <Jiri_> ioria, here is the output:   *-display UNCLAIMED             description: VGA compatible controller        product: Mullins [Radeon R2 Graphics]        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]        physical id: 1        bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0        version: 00        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list        configuration: latency=0        resources:
[16:18] <ioria> Jiri_,  can you paste it ? paste.ubuntu.com
[16:19] <Jiri_> ioria, sorry I do not understand, exactly what to paste and where
[16:20] <ioria> Jiri_,  you can't paste lines in here; you have to use pastebinit or paste directly on that website (paste.ubuntu.com)
[16:20] <ioria> Jiri_,   try this     sudo lshw -C Video | pastebinit
[16:21] <CrazySane> !paste
[16:21] <Jiri_> ioria, now I have pasted the output in the link you gave me
[16:22] <ioria> Jiri_,   ok, so give us the url
[16:22] <Jiri_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24001596/
[16:23] <ioria> Jiri_,   very good
[16:23] <ioria> Jiri_,   yes, your video is broken
[16:24] <ioria> Jiri_,   what's your kernel ?   unamr -r    (you can paste here)
[16:24] <Jiri_> ioria, how i that possible? It worked just before the installation!
[16:24] <CrazySane> ioria: Jiri_: uname -r
[16:24] <ioria> Jiri_,   please,  uname -r
[16:25] <Jiri_> 3.13.0-108-generic
[16:26] <ioria> Jiri_,   cat /etc/issue
[16:26] <Jiri_> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[16:27] <ioria> Jiri_,   can you run  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade without issues ?
[16:27] <ioria> Jiri_,   and let me scroll up what you did before
[16:27] <Jiri_> ioria, shold I type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get" in terminal?
[16:28] <ioria> yes
[16:28] <ioria> Jiri_,    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:28] <ioria> Jiri_,   'I have updated kernel to 16.04 but that did not help'
[16:29] <ioria> Jiri_,   you haven't updated !!!
[16:29] <OerHeks> try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade
[16:29] <OerHeks> note the 'full'
[16:29] <ioria> OerHeks, i thik shhe still on trusty
[16:29] <Jiri_> Oh, sorry! I made an update and rebooted this computer today. But I am a complete beginner.
[16:30] <ioria> Jiri_,   did you try to install the Hwe stack on trusty ?
[16:31] <ioria> Jiri_,   with these commands ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[16:31] <Jiri_> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24001621/
[16:31] <ioria> Jiri_,   your kernel ( 3.13.0-108-generic) is trusty not xenial
[16:31] <OerHeks> ioria, oh you are right, 3.13.0.108.116 is the latest for trusty
[16:31] <ioria> yup
[16:32] <OerHeks> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[16:32] <ioria> Jiri_,  again      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:32] <Jiri_> ioria, I am not sure what I today earlier did, I just followed instructions from EriC^^
[16:32] <ioria> Jiri_,  again      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:33] <ioria> Jiri_,  btw, i'am not good in Swedish  :-)
[16:34] <Jiri_> ioria, I am sorry, I typed LANG=C in front of that command, but it did not help.
[16:34] <ioria> Jiri_,  i see
[16:35] <Jiri_> ioria, any words or phrases you need to translate to english?
[16:35] <ioria> Jiri_,  still waiting for this :      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:36] <yyyyy> has anyone noticed `chromium`, `chrome`, `chrome-beta` and `chrome-unstable` hanging and freezing since updating from 16.04 LTS to 16.10?
[16:36] <Jiri_> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24001621/
[16:37] <CrazySane> yyyyy: Nope. My Chrome is trucking along just fine.
[16:37] <yyyyy> CrazySane: do you have an intel onboard graphics card, or a dedicated one?
[16:37] <OerHeks> yyyyy, unlikely anyone got 3 versions `chrome`, `chrome-beta` and `chrome-unstable` ..
[16:37] <ioria> Jiri_,  can you install pastebinit ?   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:38] <CrazySane> yyyyy: dedicated.
[16:38] <yyyyy> OerHeks: i happen to have all since trying to isolate the issue :/
[16:38] <OerHeks> yyyyy, what version of chrome do you have probles with?
[16:38] <OerHeks> c/problems
[16:39] <Jiri_> ioria here is the output from your last command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24001657/
[16:39] <yyyyy> OerHeks: all three versions have the same issue. sometimes a tab will spike CPU usage from nowhere, and switching between tabs hangs. on a few select websites even typing hangs, and I have to wait a little before seeing what's being typed.
[16:39] <ioria> Jiri_,  seems good .... can you trnslate the laste 3 lines ?
[16:40] <yyyyy> i have intel onboard graphics on an i3-2120, with 16 GB of RAM. since this happens regardless of webpage used, i don't think it's an underpowered CPU issue.
[16:40] <Nordet> Hello, i have libreoffice 5.3 on ubuntu 16.10 and i don't have menus today, one suggestion ?
[16:40] <yyyyy> (specially since that's not even such an old rig, just budget)
[16:40] <OerHeks> yyyyy, did you try to remove the .config/google-chrome folder?
[16:40] <yyyyy> OerHeks: let me try that!
[16:40] <jbo_> Hi there -- I'm on 16.10 & am experiencing this annoying behaviour where whenever a usb device on my machine changes (or the machine sleeps&wakes), it sends some kind of command to my printer, causing it to wake up, and move the heads around. Any idea where these kind of triggers live so I can change the behaviour. (printer is an epson using the escpr driver)
[16:41] <OerHeks> yyyyy, also do that with  .cache/google-chrome
[16:42] <Jiri_> ioria 1. reading state information 2. calculating upgrading 3. 0 to upgrade 0 to new-install 0 to remove 0 to not to upgrade
[16:43] <ioria> Jiri_,  ok  sudo apt-get  install pastebinit
[16:43] <yyyyy> done both
[16:44] <CrazySane> jbo_: Offhand I'd say that it's not a 'bug' but something that just happens. The computer takes inventory of it's USB assets as needed, and when that happens, it'll likely wake the printer too.
[16:44] <yyyyy> will try to disable extensions as well and report back. thanks for the tip! :D
[16:45] <CrazySane> jbo_: it's more of a factor of the printer driver and the printer's firmware than anything else.
[16:46] <Jiri_> ioria here is the output: LANG=C sudo apt-get  install pastebinit Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done pastebinit is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:47] <ioria> Jiri_,  sudo apt-get  dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[16:48] <Jiri_> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24001704/
[16:49] <ioria> Jiri_,  dpkg -l | grep xenial*  | pastebinit
[16:50] <Jiri_> ioria, this command tried to send an empty document
[16:50] <OerHeks> ioria, i just read back, the issue is: how to get a higher resolution than 800x600 in Ubuntu 14.04 ? ?
[16:50] <ioria> OerHeks, yes, but i read i tried to install the xenial hwe
[16:51] <ioria> *she
[16:51] <ioria> Jiri_,    ls /boot | pastebinit
[16:52] <Jiri_> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24001735/
[16:52] <ioria> Jiri_,   ok, no xenial traces ....  so we try to install fglrx ...
[16:53] <ioria> Jiri_,   can you open Additional Drvier form the Dash ?
[16:53] <ioria> Jiri_,   can you open Additional Driver from the Dash ?
[16:54] <Jiri_> ioria, sorry no, I did not find Additional Driver i Dash
[16:55] <OerHeks> type 'driver' and the tool should show up ( dash is the top icon on the left panel, not terminal )
[16:55] <Jiri_> ioria, I guess that Dash is the upper most left icon
[16:56] <ioria> Jiri_,   in Dash type  'Additional'   maybe in your language, or open SystemSettings-> Software and  Updates
[16:57] <Jiri_> ioria, the only thing I found in Dash was "additional: definition"
[16:58] <ioria> Jiri_,   ubuntu-drivers list  | pastebinit
[17:00] <Jiri_> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24001782/
[17:00] <ioria> Jiri_,   you see that 'fglrx' thing
[17:00] <ioria> ?
[17:01] <Jiri_> Yes ioria, I see it in the output.
[17:01] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[17:01] <ioria> OerHeks, do you trust that command ?
[17:02] <OerHeks> ioria, sure, sudo ubuntu-drivers list or sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall are ok
[17:02] <ioria> Jiri_,   paste in here    dmesg | grep Kernel
[17:02] <ioria> OerHeks, ok, thanx
[17:03] <Jiri_> ioria here is the output: [    0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-108-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=c2b4eefd-64e0-4c5f-a8c2-e135bf4da287 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[17:03] <ioria> Jiri_,   you're  booting the .signed kernel....
[17:04] <bumblebee> wow!nice IRC! never thought ubuntu mate would have this out of the box
[17:05] <ioria> Jiri_,   indulge me; you have 2 kernel  13.03.108  (signed and not signed) ; can you please reboot with the non-signed one ?
[17:07] <Jiri_> ioria, which are the correct steps to reboot with the non-signed kernel?
[17:08] <ioria> Jiri_,  from Grub -> Advanced Options > and select   3.13.0.18    (probably the second in the list)  i ask you this because i don't understand why the radeon module it's not loading
[17:08] <OerHeks> Why bother with this kernel info, just let Jiri_ install fglrx
[17:11] <Jiri_> ioria I am sorry, I do not know how to open Grub
[17:12] <ioria> Jiri_,  sudo nano /etc/default/grub    and comment with hash '#' the line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[17:13] <ioria> Jiri_,  then save (ctrl+o)  and close (ctrl+x)
[17:17] <Jiri_> ioria now I have edited by commenting that line, saved and exited Grub
[17:17] <ioria> Jiri_,  good,  sudo update-grub
[17:18] <Jiri_> ioria LANG=C sudo update-grub Generating grub configuration file ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-108-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-108-generic Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration done
[17:18] <WeiJunLi> help on this error while compiling kernel please. https://bpaste.net/show/b2cc4ddee8b6
[17:19] <nacc> WeiJunLi: use a kernel channel, please
[17:19] <ioria> Jiri_,  no multi-lines in here, but ok :    sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[17:19] <nacc> WeiJunLi: your kernel tree isn't clean to build in.
[17:19] <nacc> WeiJunLi: it tells you exactly what to do.
[17:19] <Jiri_> ioria yes, done
[17:20] <ioria> Jiri_,  no output right ?
[17:20] <WeiJunLi> nacc: I have done fakeroot debian/rules clean - the command ran succesfully
[17:20] <nacc> WeiJunLi: then you didn't read the output, it didn't say to run clean.
[17:20] <ducasse> WeiJunLi: read the errors
[17:20] <WeiJunLi> make mrproper just cleans everything including debian/rules
[17:21] <WeiJunLi> and debian/rules is needed for compilation
[17:21] <Jiri_> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24001981/
[17:21] <OerHeks> fglrx was not even installed??
[17:21] <ioria> Jiri_,  so, now when you restart, you'll see the grub screen ; select Advanced Options and pick the 'second'  3.13.0.108 item in the list
[17:22] <ioria> OerHeks, nope
[17:22]  * OerHeks facepalms
[17:22] <WeiJunLi> nacc, ducasse
[17:23] <ioria> Jiri_,   not recovery, upstart or stuff
[17:23] <Jiri_> ioria thank you, soon back  :)
[17:23] <ioria> Jiri_,   not recovery, upstart or stuff
[17:23] <Jiri_> ioria yes
[17:23] <ioria> Jiri_,   ok
[17:24] <Jiri_> ioria by the way, should the grub screen appear by it self or should I pres Esc during the reboot?
[17:25] <nacc> WeiJunLi: i think you are best off using a better channel, then -- i think there is an ubuntu kernel channel
[17:25] <ioria> Jiri_,   automatic now
[17:25] <Jiri_> ioria OK
[17:30] <anddam> how can I assign a name to an external usb disk so that when it gets mounted it's under this name and not under its UUID in /media/myuser/ ?
[17:32] <ducasse> anddam: try setting a filesystem label
[17:32] <Kruppt> e2label /dev/whatever whatever
[17:33] <anddam> ducasse: how?
[17:34] <ducasse> anddam: read what Kruppt said if the fs is ext2/3/4
[17:36] <Jiri_> ioria now I have rebooted the computer with the second line in Advanced Options 3.13.0.108 (recovery mode)
[17:36] <ioria> Jiri_,   <ioria> Jiri_,   not recovery, upstart or stuff
[17:37] <ioria> Jiri_,   never mind, reboot normally
[17:37] <giovannis> hi, I have a problem with GPS in PC after installing ubuntu
[17:37] <Jiri_> ioria I am sorry, the first line was 3.13.0.108 and the second line was 3.13.0.108 (recovery mode)
[17:37] <giovannis> It gived me the wrong position
[17:38] <ioria> Jiri_,  ok, reboot normally
[17:38] <Jiri_> What should I do now? How can I repair thaT?
[17:38] <anddam> Kruppt: oh didn't catch it was for me
[17:38] <ioria> Jiri_,  don't worry, reboot normally
[17:38] <Jiri_> It was not possible to reboot normally.
[17:38] <ioria> Jiri_,  sudo reboot
[17:38] <Jiri_> I have got the grub at the new reboot
[17:38] <ioria> Jiri_,  press enter
[17:39] <Jiri_> ioria OK
[17:39] <ioria> Jiri_,  or wait 10 seconds
[17:43] <Jiri__> ioria now the computer is rebooted
[17:43] <ioria> Jiri_,  dmesg | grep Kernel
[17:44] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002078/
[17:44] <zsoc> Does anyone happen to know an equivalent of systemd-networkd-wait-online.service that I can use? 16.10 server
[17:45] <ioria> Jiri_,  lspci -k | grep VGA -A2  | pastebinit
[17:46] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002087/
[17:46] <jbo_> CrazySane: sure -- but I use the same driver in other distros and they don't have the same behaviour -- it's either how the driver is configured, or something in udev(?) which gets triggered
[17:46] <ioria> Jiri_,   ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ?
[17:47] <zsoc> oh wait. Okay so I see I do have systemd-networkd-wait-online.service ... but i'm waiting on it as a dependency and it's never happening. Is that somehow based on the network manager i'm using or something?
[17:47] <WeiJunLi> help on this error while compiling kernel, it says to do 'make mrproper' but that command cleans everything including delete the debian/rules which is needed for compilation, hints? https://bpaste.net/show/b2cc4ddee8b6
[17:47] <Jiri__> ioria should I type "ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ?" in terminal?
[17:47] <ioria> Jiri_,   ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:48] <Jiri__> ioria ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[17:48] <ioria>   why it's not loading radeon ?
[17:49] <ioria> Jiri_,   sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[17:49] <ducasse> WeiJunLi: we don't support manually building kernels here, you need to ask somewhere else or use the kernel that comes with the system.
[17:50] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002116/
[17:50] <nacc> ioria: fwiw, there also can be /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d even without an /etc/X11/xorg.conf iirc
[17:51] <nacc> ioria: not sure if it's relevant here
[17:51] <ioria> nacc, great .... Jiri__ ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[17:52] <Jiri__> ioria sorry: ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d: No such file or directory
[17:52] <ioria> Jiri_,   mmm...   ok, let's try .... sudo apt-get install fglrx
[17:53] <anddam> I have an ext4 and an HFS+ who got its label straight away
[17:55] <nacc> !who | anddam: unless you're trying to ask a question, in which case, what is your question?
[17:55] <anddam> nacc: what?
[17:55] <nacc> anddam: you just said a sentence rather randomly, without context ... were you trying to tell someone that?
[17:55] <nacc> anddam: "I have an ext4 and an HFS+ who got its label straight away"
[17:55] <anddam> nacc: I was keeping on the discussion of like three minutes ago with ducasse and Kruppt
[17:56] <nacc> anddam: right, so use their nicks!
[17:56] <nacc> anddam: also 3 minutes is eternity in the support channel.
[17:57] <ducasse> anddam: not 3 minutes, more like 20 :) do those mount with label instead of uuid?
[17:58] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002155/
[17:59] <ioria> Jiri_,   looks good,  sudo amdconfig --initial
[18:00] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002180/
[18:01] <robert45> hi guys, cant seem to install mdadm in Ubuntu 14.04, any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002187/
[18:01] <ioria> Jiri_,   can you paste  ls -a /etc/X11
[18:02] <WeiJunLi> nobody on kernel channel
[18:02] <WeiJunLi> someone around that can help me with a kernel compilation issue
[18:02] <Jiri__> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/24002192/
[18:02] <robert45> hm not sure what happen, works now
[18:03] <OerHeks> WeiJunLi, i just read back, why do you want to compile the original kernel without any changes?
[18:03] <ioria> Jiri_,   yes, you had a xorg.conf but was different named ....       ok reboot
[18:03] <WeiJunLi> OerHeks: it has changes on kernel config, enabling kasan and more..
[18:03] <WeiJunLi> OerHeks:  https://bpaste.net/show/1b11450f5e8e - 'make mrproper' cleans everything including delete debian/rules which is needed for compilation
[18:03] <ducasse> WeiJunLi: just wait there for someone to answer you
[18:04] <Younder> Is there a channel for rasperrian?
[18:05] <ducasse> !alis | Younder
[18:07] <Jiri_> ioria tousands of THANKS!!!!  :-))
[18:08] <ioria> Jiri_,   ok, you're lucky girl :þ
[18:09] <sixsixsix> hi does anyone else have troubles signing in to skype?
[18:09] <Jiri_> ioria now the resolution is perfect! Yes, both me and Eva (my X-friend) are extremely Happy!  You are an ANGEL!  :)
[18:10] <ioria> Jiri_,   no proble, you're welcome (both)
[18:10] <Jiri_> ioria just a last litle thing: How ca I get rid of the grub dialog at the start?
[18:10] <ashwin31_> I want help regarding fundraising section in djangoproject. I guess my contribution is missing or something.
[18:11] <ioria> Jiri_,   sudo nano /etc/default/grub and remove the '#' in from of  GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[18:11] <Jiri_> ioria perfect! Thanks a lot!  :)
[18:11] <ioria> Jiri_,   save, close and sudo update-grub
[18:11] <OerHeks> ashwin31_, how is that related to ubuntu support?
[18:12] <ioria> Jiri_,   don't forget sudo update-grub
[18:12] <OerHeks> ashwin31_, try #django ?
[18:14] <anddam> ducasse: I'm waiting for a big transfer to complete in case I need to umount the device
[18:17] <GhostUS> hi
[18:18] <capsloth> Can someone explain why those udev rules are not working on ubuntu 16.04? http://pastebin.com/xcmeH7m8
[18:22] <Jiri__> ioria I removed the "#" before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in grub and saved it but the grub still appears at the restart
[18:26] <Jiri__> Excuse me, is there anybody who could help me to remove grub dialog at the start up sequence in Ubuntu 14.04? I removed the "#" before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in grub and saved it but the grub still appears at the restart
[18:27] <pavlos> Jiri__, ioria wrote to sudo update-grub after you made changes
[18:27] <Jiri__> Thank you pavlos, I was too fast to reboot the computer!  :)
[18:28] <sau> Hi, my linux box cant ping chat.freenode.net whereas my win box can. Both are behind the same dns + dhcp router
[18:28] <sau> any ideas?
[18:29] <WeiJunLi> Walex: are you around
[18:30] <pavlos> sau, I do not get a ping
[18:30] <sau> pavlos: you dont on linux? I cant connect to freenode using irssi because of the name resolution problem
[18:31] <sau> pavlos: I can ping on windows. So whats wrong?
[18:31] <OerHeks> sau, got networking at all on that box?
[18:31] <sau> OerHeks: yes
[18:32] <sau> actually im on that box right now using a webclient to connect.
[18:32] <fred1807> how do I add this line to fstab?  mount -t overlay -olowerdir=/home/read1:/home/read2 overlay /home/sum
[18:32] <akik> sau: i can't ping chat.freenode.net either
[18:32] <pavlos> sau, ping from win resolves to a diff ip than from linux ... strange
[18:33] <sau> pavlos: please try nslookup freenode.net and nslookup chat.freenode.net
[18:33] <akik> sau: scratch that, it started replying
[18:33] <OerHeks> sau ping chat.freenode.net works fine here, what webclient?
[18:33] <sau> https://kiwiirc.com/client
[18:33] <pavlos> from win, Pinging chat.freenode.net [38.229.70.22] from ubuntu, PING chat.freenode.net (185.30.166.37)
[18:34] <OerHeks> sau, kiwiirc is old, use irssi or hexchat?
[18:34] <sau> OerHeks: irssi has problems with name resolution, kiwiirc does work
[18:35] <pavlos> sau, now it pings from ubuntu with ip PING chat.freenode.net (164.132.77.237)
[18:35] <OerHeks> sau, you just proved otherwise..
[18:36] <sau> pavlos: env LC_ALL=C ping chat.freenode.net -> ping: chat.freenode.net: Temporary failure in name resolution
[18:36] <sau> OerHeks: please read again
[18:36] <Younder> hexchat seems to work well
[18:37] <awatt> hello ppl
[18:37] <pavlos> sau, http://termbin.com/4k42
[18:37] <awatt> i just bought dell inspiron 15 7000 serious and i installed linux mint
[18:37] <Younder> what about it?
[18:37] <awatt> but after while sound stop working
[18:38] <awatt> how can i install the driver for its sound card
[18:38] <awatt> 4.4.0-53-generic
[18:38] <awatt> that is the kernel
[18:38] <OerHeks> awatt, we don't support mint, and if it worked, installing a driver is unlogical.
[18:38] <OerHeks> !mint
[18:38] <Younder> awatt, have you tried the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[18:39] <awatt> ok so what is the room for mint
[18:39] <pavlos> awatt, #linuxmint-help
[18:39] <Younder> otherwise http://www.alsa-project.org/~valentyn/Alsa-sound-mini-HOWTO-7.html usually get's me up to speed
[18:39] <k1l> awatt: its on another irc network. just use the irc programs on mint, they have that set to autojoin that channels
[18:40] <anddam> ducasse: yep, worked perfectly
[18:40] <anddam> thanks
[18:40] <sau> pavlos: i see, good for you. You probably use network-manager via dnsmasq, so 127.0.0.1 works for you. I even tried to turn it off but I dont get better results.
[18:40] <awatt> this is what i used
[18:40] <awatt> it came directly here
[18:40] <Younder> I don't like to flood this channel with spesific questions as soud debugging is complex and it would be distracting.
[18:40] <k1l> !mint > awatt
[18:55] <pavlos> sau, I can use my DNS, dig @10.0.0.1 chat.freenode.net (or nslookup -server 10.0.0.1 chat.freenode.net)
[18:56] <Younder> Why are you doing that. Let DNS's upsteam handle that.
[18:58] <teward> Younder: some of us don't trust upstream DNS so we run our own resolvers :P
[19:03] <tanay> connect #EliteBNC
[19:11] <raccoon_> hola
[19:11] <raccoon_> #quit
[19:17] <igoryonya> hello, After upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04, menus on most of the programs disappeared. Changing 'show window menu' option in 'system parameters' doesn't fix anything. I have to start most of the programs from the command line with envirement variable setting before the command: UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 , in order to show the menu. It then appears  below the handler header of the window.
[19:17] <igoryonya> How can I fix it?
[19:19] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm trying to launch fl studio with wine on ubuntu 16.04
[19:19] <RonaldsMazitis> http://apaste.info/oxk7M
[19:19] <RonaldsMazitis> this is how the error looks like
[19:19] <ducasse> !wine | RonaldsMazitis
[19:20] <pavlos> igoryonya, this may help, initctl restart unity-panel-service
[19:20] <RonaldsMazitis> ducasse there is just nobody on #winehq so I came here
[19:21] <koleygr> igoryonya: you can try this to fix the problem in next boots: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[19:21] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: there will be, sooner or later. you can also try the appdb
[19:21] <ducasse> !appdb | RonaldsMazitis
[19:21] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: did you change the windows version wine is using?
[19:22] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't open winecfg same error
[19:22] <RonaldsMazitis> akik
[19:24] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: you have some other problem then, than wine(?)
[19:25] <RonaldsMazitis> yes, I have problem with unity, icons doesn't manage to stay on same positions since I upgraded os
[19:25] <RonaldsMazitis> but thats secondary
[19:27] <igoryonya> pavlos, thanx, it helped for now
[19:27] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: sorry don
[19:28] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: sorry don't know what's wrong
[19:28] <igoryonya> koleygr, thank You, I will read it to fix it permanently
[19:30] <igoryonya> After upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04, when I open menu (lens) - it doesn't show many installed apps in there. When I type some program, that I know, that exists, it doesn't show up in found apps, below the search.
[19:31] <igoryonya> How can I fix it?
[19:33] <OerHeks> igoryonya, check out the top left option > filter results
[19:34] <Simonious> ls
[19:34] <Simonious> bah
[19:34] <igoryonya> OerHeks, even, when in in filters is 'all'
[19:34] <bobafett> damn vpn
[19:35] <OerHeks> igoryonya, then i have no clue
[19:35] <Simonious> I've put ubuntu on the beaglebone and I can't seem to find an unzip utility, help
[19:35] <Simonious> E: Unable to locate package unzip
[19:36] <CodeMouse92__> Simonious: did you install it?
[19:37] <CodeMouse92__> !info unzip | Simonious
[19:37] <Simonious> I tried apt get, that's the E: mesg above
[19:37] <pavlos> igoryonya, this may help, remove the ~/.cache/unity/ dir, logout, login
[19:37] <CodeMouse92__> Simonious: Mm. What version of Ubuntu?
[19:37] <OerHeks> Simonious, that beagle is arm .. try #ubuntu-arm ?
[19:37] <Simonious> beaglebone..
[19:38] <Simonious> ok
[19:38] <k1l> !info unzip
[19:38] <Pici> It should still be available on  armel and armhf
[19:39] <Simonious> I agree
[19:39] <Simonious> I don't know how to get it
[19:39] <k1l> Simonious: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[19:40] <Simonious> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[19:40] <k1l> Pici: armel is not supported by ubuntu since years. but armhf and newer ones.
[19:40] <Pici> k1l: oops, I mispasted the wrong line. you're right
[19:41] <k1l> but i guess debian is not shipping it due to no beeing free enough? so if that is an ubuntu or debian matters
[19:44] <k1l> Simonious: is that a snappy core install?
[19:44] <Simonious> no
[19:45] <Simonious> It's this install http://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/2017-01-23/elinux/ubuntu-16.04.1-console-armhf-2017-01-23.tar.xz
[19:45] <k1l> Simonious: can you run "sudo apt update ; apt policy unzip| nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here?
[19:46] <Simonious> running..
[19:47] <Simonious> http://termbin.com/dpfc
[19:47] <Simonious> doing update now
[19:48] <k1l> Simonious: so, sudo apt install unzip
[19:48] <Simonious> there we go, I just neglected the update eh?
[19:49] <k1l> looks like the local repo database was cleaned out.
[19:49] <Simonious> I should have known better, that was a fresh install
[19:52] <cfoch-always> hi
[19:52] <malwar3hun73r> anyone know how to address: "mkdir failed on directory /var/run/samba/msg.lock: Permission denied"
[19:53] <malwar3hun73r> google has not been any help
[19:53] <elias_a_> malwar3hun73r: Wrong user?
[19:53] <teward> wrong user, or Samba is already locked by another process...
[19:53] <cfoch-always> what may be a reason why my public iip is not loading my site (Ubuntu 16.04 + apache) but it works from local ip
[19:53] <cfoch-always> ?
[19:53] <k1l> cfoch-always: router forward settings
[19:54] <k1l> *port forward
[19:54] <elias_a_> cfoch-always: Does it work from another computer in your home network?
[19:55] <malwar3hun73r> elias_a_, maybe - can I add a user to samba group - is that the fix?
[19:57] <cfoch-always> k1l: elias_a_ my router has firewall disabled
[19:57] <cfoch-always> elias_a_: yes it works from other computer
[19:57] <cfoch-always> in the local netweork
[19:58] <kiscro> Hey there, I boot ubuntu 16.10 from usb disk, some times it crash when open many tabs in Firefox, I didn't have this problem when I used windows.(I have two 2GB DDR3 RAM)
[19:58] <OerHeks> cfoch-always, did you forward port 80 to your server ip?
[19:58] <nacc> kiscro: what crashes? Ubuntu or firefox?
[19:58] <k1l> cfoch-always: its not about firewall. its about the router needs to know where  to give the webserver traffic to. he doenst know that machine is a webserver if you dont forward the ports
[19:59] <OerHeks> cfoch-always, firewall or not, port forwarding is always needed with a router
[19:59] <kiscro> When software crash I think ubuntu crashes too. Cause I can't even move the crusor.
[20:00] <OerHeks> kiscro, live usb?
[20:00] <elias_a_> cfoch-always: What is meant by port forwarding here: you have to tell your router that there is a web server in this port and that should be shown to the world.
[20:01] <kiscro> @OerHeks No bro, Live was faster. I've use installed version.
[20:02] <kiscro> (I have to say that I use Task manager GUI on my ubuntu)
[20:02] <Younder> elias_a_, sudo ufw allow http (or https)
[20:02] <james1138> Hello all. Question - would anyone know of a IRC chat/channel for Analog Video Capture and/or Editing using Ubuntu??
[20:02] <Younder> It's more complicated using iptables
[20:03] <nacc> !alis | james1138
[20:03] <kiscro> @nacc When software crash I think ubuntu crashes too. Cause I can't even move the crusor.
[20:03] <elias_a_> Younder: We are talking about port forwarding in the router, not server. :)
[20:03] <nacc> kiscro: can you switch to a shell (ctrl + alt + f1)?
[20:04] <kiscro> @nacc On carash moments?
[20:06] <malwar3hun73r> i'm using the net command in samba-common-bin to make RPC requests - with every request i get an error "/var/run/samba/msg.lock: Permission denied" - any idea what's going on?
[20:07] <nacc> kiscro: yes
[20:07] <james1138> thanx
[20:07] <kiscro> @nacc I don't use that cause I don't know how to swich back from that shell.
[20:08] <pavlos> cfoch-always, did you fix the port fwd issue?
[20:08] <koleygr> kiscro: ctrl+alt+F7
[20:09] <kiscro> @koleygr It will be fix then?
[20:10] <nacc> kiscro: we are trying to debug the issue, you don't need to get back
[20:10] <koleygr> kiscro: you will return to the first screen... but if you can go to a ctrl+alt+F1 you can give some commands to see if and what happens
[20:10] <nacc> kiscro: as in, we are trying to determine what crashes
[20:11] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: what user are you running net as, and what are the permissions on that file/directory (ls -ahl /var/run/samba/)
[20:12] <kiscro> @nacc Firefox changed to grey screen.
[20:12] <nacc> kiscro: that's not a crash of firefox, necessarily. A crash would be firefox disappearing.
[20:13] <nacc> kiscro: grey screen, iirc, is typically a tab going unresponsive, right?
[20:13] <kiscro> @nacc thank you, but what is that?
[20:14] <Numline1> Hello everyone. Any thoughts on how to automatically deploy "ready" Ubuntu servers? I was using Laravel Forge, but it's kinda buggy for me and I can't find anything similar. Basically, what I need is a script that'll install a PHP production environment with a simple health check monitoring and GUI. Puppet seems overly complicated. Thanks
[20:15] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, i'm running net as a standard user and /var/run/samba is root:root
[20:15] <kiscro> @nacc "grey screen, iirc, is typically a tab going unresponsive, right?" Sorry but I don't understand
[20:15] <koleygr> kiscro: May be you are out of memory.... 2Gb is not good enough for ubuntu with unity
[20:16] <KOLANICH> Hi all! Why do we have pip package broken?
[20:16] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: well, that's probably the issue :)
[20:16] <KOLANICH> python3-pip
[20:16] <Guest71996> Hey I have configured my nvidia-settings and applies (144hz). After I restart my computer and go back to Ubuntu it does not save, then I'll have to change it back everytime I start up. Anyone can help me
[20:16] <Guest71996> ?
[20:16] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: unless /var/run/samba is o+rw?
[20:16] <kiscro> @koleygr thanks, But it is 4 GB (2 * 2GB DDR3) as I said.
[20:17] <k1l> KOLANICH: what is broken?
[20:17] <koleygr> kiscro: Ok... I thought it was just 2GB....
[20:18] <KOLANICH> k1l:
[20:18] <KOLANICH>   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/pip/_vendor/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2121, in _rebuild_mod_path
[20:18] <KOLANICH>     orig_path.sort(key=position_in_sys_path)
[20:18] <KOLANICH> AttributeError: '_NamespacePath' object has no attribute 'sort'
[20:18] <KOLANICH> for 3.6 it works fine
[20:19] <KOLANICH> so why 3.5 is used
[20:19] <nacc> KOLANICH: you are using a local build of python (*not* recommended)
[20:19] <KOLANICH> nacc: ?
[20:19] <nacc> KOLANICH: and not the ubuntu package at all
[20:19] <nacc> KOLANICH: '/usr/local/lib'
[20:19] <k1l> KOLANICH: what ubuntu is that?
[20:20] <k1l> KOLANICH: "apt policy python3-pip | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[20:20] <kiscro> Firefox using 722 Mib of memory by itself.
[20:21] <Tiger_> Hey I have configured my nvidia-settings and applies (144hz). After I restart my computer and go back to Ubuntu it does not save, then I'll have to change it back everytime I start up. Anyone can help me
[20:22] <nacc> k1l: but even with taht info, the above backtrace is not from the system python3-pip
[20:22] <kiscro> 😍🌷❤️
[20:22] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, should i just arbitrarily change the permissions?
[20:22] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: no, i doubt it
[20:23] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: is net meant to be run as your user?
[20:23] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: where does net live?
[20:23] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: does `man net` perhaps indicate how it is meant to b eused?
[20:23] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, have you heard of cuckoo sandbox?
[20:23] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: nope
[20:23] <k1l> nacc: alright, didnt read your message about that before
[20:24] <nacc> k1l: np, just wanted to bring it to your attention so you don't spend too many cycles :)
[20:24] <k1l> :)
[20:24] <Pici> nacc: something could get installed there if they used sudo with pip.
[20:24] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, it's a malware analysis sandbox - the author is using net and when i asked him about the error he said he didn't know how to help... anyhow, the net command is being used to reboot the machine once the analysis is over
[20:25] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, i'm assuming it's meant to run as my user
[20:25] <kiscro> @nacc Is there any solution?
[20:25] <nacc> Pici: right, but then the bug/issue is not in python3-pip (and the 'something' in this case is pip itself)
[20:25] <Pici> nacc: exactly.
[20:25] <KOLANICH> k1l: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24002897/
[20:26] <nacc> Pici: if i had to guess, locally built pip for some reason
[20:26] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: i don't have a samba setup handly, unfortunately, give me a sec
[20:26] <Pici> nacc: or installed with the get-pip.py script.
[20:26] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, it's used as "net rpc shutdown -I [ip address] -U [creds on box] -r -f --timeout=5"
[20:27] <nacc> kiscro: solution for what? you have't clearly stated the issue? or if firefox is actually crashing or if all of ubuntu is
[20:27] <nacc> Pici: ack, good point
[20:27] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: so in theory that auths to that remote and runs shutdown there?
[20:28] <malwar3hun73r> correct and the creds are for the user on that box (the windows box being rebooted) - i should mention it works, i just get that weird error
[20:28] <malwar3hun73r> nacc, and, i don't like seeing errors :)
[20:28] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: i wonder if net by default tries to use the local samba lock, fails (not fatally)
[20:29] <kiscro> @nacc Firefox and etc are runing when I saw that grey screen or sometimes not, I can't change mouse crusor
[20:29] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: you can file a bug against samba, i guess, but i doubt it's high prioriy if it works :)
[20:29] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: it doesn't seem like it should actually need the samba lock for an RPC call
[20:30] <nacc> kiscro: you can't move the mouse only when the grey screen is visible?
[20:31] <kiscro> @nacc Sometimes it shows grey screen and I can do every thing and it will be fixed, but sometimes I just watch a screen of firefox and I can't do anything.
[20:33] <OerHeks> kiscro, slow usb disc perhaps?
[20:34] <smahan83> hi is there any reason ubntu wants 8.6 gb of free soace to ibstakk?
[20:34] <kiscro> @OerHeks It is ADATA 16GB, Should I change that?
[20:35] <OerHeks> kiscro, maybe waiting a bit longer helps? 16 gb is not that much, 4 gb = 4 gb swap, 12 left ..
[20:36] <andres__> qwerty
[20:36] <k1l_> smahan83: on install? or upgrade?
[20:36] <smahan83> no frsh install
[20:36] <nacc> kiscro: i would assume your IO bound at that point (slow disk as OerHeks mentioned)
[20:36] <nacc> *you're
[20:37] <k1l_> smahan83: and that is an issue?
[20:37] <koleygr> smahan83: Ubuntu comes with some software... windows needs about 50GB just to install... ubuntu is much lighter but not so light
[20:37] <ctjctj> Hello!  I just ran into an interesting problem with blkid.  I have to LV in the same VG mounted as /dev/virtualimages/disk1 and /dev/virtualimages/disk2 which reference /dev/dm-0 and /dev/dm-1.  BOTH devices give the same UUID.  blkid -p /dev/dm-0 gives exactly the same result as blkid -p /dev/dm-1
[20:39] <kiscro> @nacc @OerHeks I use usb2, Should I upgrade my usb port (My ubuntu is fast but I have problem with Firefox and Torbrowser)? How about my USB flash(Such as I change that to a 32 or 64 GB)?
[20:49] <OerHeks> kiscro, you don't need bigger, unless you got a disc full error.. i suspect slow usb transfer is your culprit
[20:49] <zuiss1> does ubuntu have an alternative to debian backports? more recent software that can be installed in the LTS release
[20:50] <kiscro> @OerHeks thanks.
[20:50] <KOLANICH> So, how are we solving this problem?
[20:50] <OerHeks> zuiss1, then don't run LTS, 16.10 is out for months now, and ubuntu got proposed, but i would not advise to use that without a reason.
[20:51] <k1l_> zuiss1: PPA
[20:51] <k1l_> proposed is for automated testings and not for user usage.
[20:51] <Pici> !backports
[20:51] <OerHeks> and 'latest' is not always the best, ubuntu does give security fixes
[20:52] <zuiss1> not running LTS just for one or two packages seems silly
[20:52] <zuiss1> i will look into PPA and see if there is one
[20:53] <k1l_> zuiss1: well yes, you can look if there is a package in the backports repos
[20:54] <zuiss1> k1l_: ubuntu has a backports repo?
[20:54] <whathappen> In witch boot process stage is the root partition mounted?
[20:54] <nacc> KOLANICH: you have a locally built pip that is throwing the error.
[20:54] <KOLANICH> nacc, I have removed it
[20:54] <k1l_> zuiss1: see the link from the bot
[20:55] <nacc> KOLANICH: did you provide output indicating the system pip has an error?
[20:55] <nacc> KOLANICH: in a pastebin
[20:55] <zuiss1> ok
[20:55] <KOLANICH> nacc:
[20:55] <KOLANICH>   File "/usr/share/python-wheels/pkg_resources-0.0.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2078, in _rebuild_mod_path
[20:55] <KOLANICH> AttributeError: '_NamespacePath' object has no attribute 'sort'
[20:56] <nacc> KOLANICH: please use a pastebin, provide the exact command and full backtrace
[20:56] <nacc> !paste | KOLANICH
[20:56] <ravenpi> Juju question: I love deploying to containers, because it "boots" so darn fast.  But it seems I always need a "base" install on the physical system before I can install to a container.  Is there a dummy juju charm I could install to set up a physical system, then install charms to it?
[20:56] <nacc> ravenpi: may want to ask in #ubuntu-server or a juju channel (see !alis)
[20:57] <ravenpi> Thanks!  I hadn't noticed that.
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[20:59] <KOLANICH> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24003069/
[21:00] <nacc> KOLANICH: what was the command run?
[21:00] <nacc> KOLANICH: which version of ubuntu as well?
[21:00] <KOLANICH> nacc: python3 -m pip
[21:00] <KOLANICH> 16.10
[21:02] <giallo> http://www.tarjetarojaonline.eu/soccer/real-madrid-vs-napoli-di26795a?l=90573421
[21:02] <k1l_> KOLANICH: reinstall python3-pkg-resources
[21:03] <nacc> KOLANICH: yeah, it works fine locally, so I'm not sure -- it seems like maybe your python3 installation was broken
[21:05] <smahan83> after installation it takes less than 5 gb
[21:05] <KOLANICH> nacc: 1 Reinstalled, it hasn't helped.
[21:05] <smahan83> why does it ask for 8.6? i rememver it was 5 something
[21:06] <nekyian> anyone happens to know where I can get a SPSS install kit for LINUX?
[21:06] <nekyian> I tried a lot of kits but all are m$ only
[21:08] <pac1> try IBM
[21:09] <nacc> pac1: they already left
[21:11] <k1l_> KOLANICH: you ran "sudo apt install --reinstall python3-pkg-resources"?
[21:11] <k1l_> KOLANICH: maybe needed for that python-pkg-resources package aswell
[21:12] <KOLANICH>  k1l_: I have ran that for python3.
[21:17] <ctjctj> I have two LV block devices that are reporting the same UUID via blkid.  They are different, even different sizes.  How do I change one of the UUIDs?
[21:17] <k1l_> KOLANICH: there seems still to be an version mixup: /usr/lib/python3.5 and /usr/lib/python3 are named there
[21:18] <Colombo> Hey, just general question. I have like 700GB of files that I need to store on external HDD. Files are anything from few KBs to 16 gigs of text files. Currently, I am tarring it with XZ for good compression, but it seems to be terribly slow. Any suggestion to what I should use?
[21:19] <aleksandar_> Guys, I need help. I can start ubuntu installer in UEFI mode only, however, I want it old way, non UEFI. So, when I choose that option, I get ubuntu logo in the middle, than a black screen and than nothing. Is it about the lack of "nomodeset" in boot config on iso?
[21:20] <KOLANICH> k1l_: I don't understand where is the mixup. I mean when I call python3 python3.5 is launched
[21:20] <dury> hi there channel
[21:20] <nacc> KOLANICH: why is that surprising? python3.5 is the pacakged python3 in 16.10
[21:20] <dury> xenial
[21:21] <dury> 16.04 LTS
[21:21] <nacc> k1l_: python3 is weird :) they are both present normally
[21:21] <nacc> dury: do you have a support question?
[21:21] <KOLANICH> nacc: I know, so I don't understand where is the mixup he have meant
[21:22] <dury> autologin is it true that it's a bug in that realease?
[21:22] <dury> release sorry
[21:22] <Bashing-om> aleksandar_: What partitioning is on the drive presently ? and what option are you choosing for the install operation ?
[21:23] <dury> nacc, u know what I mean
[21:23] <k1l_> KOLANICH: you are right, both folders are present on a 16.04 isntall
[21:23] <nacc> dury: no, I don't -- is autologin a bug in 16.04?
[21:23] <k1l_> dury: what bug?
[21:24] <dury> k1l, autologin
[21:25] <dury> k1l_, autologin
[21:25] <k1l_> dury: what is with autologin?
[21:25] <aleksandar_> Bashing-om, it's MBR. Actually, I have no options to choose when I start installation in Non-UEFI. But when started in UEFI, I have normal options like choosing "Try Ubuntu" and so on...
[21:26] <Bashing-om> aleksandar_: secure boot disabled on the firmware ?
[21:26] <dury> k1l_, autologin with lxde or mate x-window-managers
[21:26] <dury> under xenial 64bits
[21:26] <aleksandar_> I believe it is. I have installed Debian 8 previously, so I believe it is.
[21:26] <k1l_> dury: no, there is no general bug we all know about. so please be more specific what the issue is
[21:26] <nacc> dury: you're *not* stating an actual bug, you're just saying 'autologin' over and over. What is your actual issue. That autologin isn't working? Or that it works and you don't like it?
[21:27] <nickg> is there anyway i can upgrade and stay in the 14.04 branch?  I'm afraid do-release-upgrade is going to take me all the way to 16.04, which we haven't fully tested yet
[21:27] <nacc> nickg: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[21:27] <nacc> nickg: with appropriate sudo
[21:27] <k1l_> nickg: do-release-upgrade will upgrade you to 16.04, yes.
[21:28] <nacc> nickg: not sure what you mean by 'upgrade', though
[21:28] <nickg> I didn't think dist-upgrade would upgrade releases.  I need to go from 14.04.X to 14.04.5
[21:28] <k1l_> nickg: if you only want to update your 14.04 to the latest state run "sudo apt update" and then "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[21:28] <nacc> nickg: just upgrade with apt, then
[21:28] <nacc> nickg: it won't upgrade releases, 14.04.5 isn't a release in that sense
[21:28] <k1l_> nickg: then just use apt. its not changing to a new ubuntu release.
[21:29] <nacc> nickg: 14.04.5 is just the current 14.04 archive with respun ISOs (there is a new HWE stack, but that is sort of independent)
[21:29] <k1l_> nickg: think of 14.04.5 like a servicepack. its not a release as such
[21:29] <jalt> nickg: you can't really upgrade from 14.04 to 14.04.x, but normal apt-get update; apt-get upgrade will get almost the same result.
[21:29] <dury> k1l_, nacc: can't autologin automatically with mate or lxde though... that's my problem
[21:29] <jalt> the point releases are weird in that way
[21:29] <Bashing-om> aleksandar_: Do not know then . see what results booting the installer with 'nomodeset' as a boot parameter - can not hurt to see what results .
[21:30] <jalt> 16.04.2 is going to be even worse due to auto-enrollment in HWE by default for new installations, but not for upgrades
[21:30] <k1l_> jalt: its very similar to the servicepacks.
[21:30] <jalt> similar yes, but that's vague
[21:31] <jalt> the HWE thing is great, but how they rolled it was... unsatisfactory.
[21:31] <aleksandar_> Bashing-om, the thing is that I cannot change any boot parameter. It's on USB iso
[21:31] <dury> k1l_, nacc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/426831/lxde-auto-login did follow this not success though
[21:32] <k1l_> jalt: the new way with the "rolling kernel" makes a lot more sense since there were a lot user on the dead end kernels and they didnt know about it
[21:32] <jalt> aleksandar_: you can edit boot parameters by pressing a key during boot to halt the timer. then i think it's either F6 or TAB to edit the boot params.
[21:33] <jalt> i agree K1l_ but people will get confused because they will see 16.04.X and not be sure which kernel+X stack they have
[21:33] <aleksandar_> jalt, does it work during loading live ISO?
[21:33] <jalt> yes aleksandar_, at least for graphical based (ubiquity), probably also for server
[21:33] <jalt> i think you have about 3 to 5 seconds to press any key when the little ubuntu logo+keyboard icon shows on the bottom of the screen
[21:34] <rager> query: does anybody have a way to get network-manager working with an ipsec/l2tp vpn?
[21:34] <rager> I'm on 16.10
[21:35] <aleksandar_> jalt, thank you
[21:35] <aleksandar_> see you soon
[21:35] <rager> I've got network-manager-strongswan, but it's apparently only going to do ike v2, not sure what the distinction exactly is
[21:36] <k1l_> dury: enabling autologin in the lubuntu or mate systemsettings doesnt work?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> allorder: Reboot the liveUSB, as soon as the firmware screen clears spam the escape key -> language screen; escape key -> boot options screen ??
[21:37] <allorder> no
[21:38] <jakub> hi. does anyone know when ubuntu 16.04.2 ISOs will be releases?
[21:38] <Bashing-om> allorder: Sorry .. tab complete/ OP gone got me .
[21:39] <allorder> :P
[21:39] <k1l_> !16.04.2 | jakub
[21:39] <Bashing-om> jakub: Last I heard sometime tomorrow .
[21:40] <dury> k1l_,where is systemsettings?
[21:40] <dury> k1l_ I'm on mate desktop
[21:41] <jakub> ubottu: i'm not in hurry. i want to come back to ubuntu from another distro, and i dont want to download the old ISO and next download another tonnes of updates
[21:41] <jakub> :)
[21:41] <dury> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/auto-login-to-the-desktop/60 reading this
[21:42] <jakub> Bashing-om: about 9 p.m. UTC, as usual?
[21:44] <dury> hope to work under xenial, though
[21:45] <jalt> jakub: the daily isos have just been rebuilt on #ubuntu-release, so 16.04.2 ought to come out tomorrow bar further delays. might take some time for mirror sync though.
[21:46] <jalt> jakub: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/372/builds
[21:46] <ragecraze> hey guys, when i restart my pc while there is no wifi, the startup takes about 5 minutes longer than usual with a message (a start job is running for raise network interfaces (5min 1s)
[21:46] <ragecraze> how do i fix this?
[21:47] <jakub> thanks jalt
[21:50] <dury> k1l_ after reading that link, success though :-)
[21:50] <dury> k1l_ are you there?
[21:52] <k1l_> dury: yes
[21:53] <dury> k1l_ I personally prefer lxde or openbox x-window-managers light ones for old pc though
[21:55] <dury> k1l_ to recycle old computer light desktops and powerful it's all we need I guess
[21:56] <KOLANICH> what is /usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/ ?
[21:57] <ppf> the place were python3.5 packages are installed
[21:57] <dury> directory
[21:57] <dury> that's right ppf
[21:57] <KOLANICH> ppf: what packages, the ones installed by apt or the ones installed by pip or both?
[21:58] <ppf> both, in general
[21:58] <dury> right
[21:59] <dury> need to go guys... tired :-) all the best all, be back pretty soon cheeersss
[22:05] <Colombo> I can tell tar to list files from archive.
[22:05] <Colombo> However, can I tell tar to list files from folder?
[22:06] <Colombo> So I can get number of files that are being compressed, so I can create some sense of progress when using checkpoints?
[22:06] <Colombo> I would like something like --checkpoints=1 --checkpoint_message=X from N
[22:07] <KOLANICH> thank you for the answers
[22:08] <sdfs> guys is it possible to minimize all windows when three fingers on touchpad? like in macs?
[22:13] <tomreyn> Colombo: i'm not sure that i understand what exactly you are trying to achieve, but based on what i understand you want to list the (sub)directory tar is currently working on while it is working on it. you could probably use tar with -v and filter (grep) that output
[22:14] <Colombo> tomreyn: I think that ls -R is what I want. But basically, I know that tar can list all files in archive or list files while archiving.
[22:14] <Colombo> tomreyn: both are however useless when you want to show how many files are left to be compressed.
[22:15] <Colombo> tomreyn: so first I do ls -R | wc -l to get number of files
[22:16] <Colombo> and than in tar, there is --checkpont=i (every i files) and then you another one which is --checkpoint-action="echo %u" which will print the number of checkpoint.
[22:16] <OerHeks>  tar --list --verbose --file=<name>.tar <foldername>
[22:16] <Colombo> So if i is set to one, it will print after every file.
[22:17] <Colombo> If I know total number of files, this seems to me as nice feature that would inform you how many files are left to be compressed.
[22:18] <Colombo> OerHeks: nope, read again what I want.
[22:19] <tomreyn> Colombo: so you want to display live how many files are left to be compressed, ok.
[22:19] <tomreyn> Colombo: i guess your approach can work for that
[22:20] <brandor5> hello everyone: I'm trying to use a local mirror in a preseed and it's failing... looking at /var/log/syslog on the system that's trying to install it looks like it's still trying to use an external mirror... Here is the section in my preseed that I have set for using the mirror (http://pastebin.com/ZU5TBhrS). any ideas on why it's not working?
[22:20] <tomreyn> Colombo: ...although not using "ls -R | wc -l". instead, use find
[22:21] <ppf> Colombo: you can run tar with --totals=signal
[22:21] <ppf> when you then send signal to the running tar, it'll dump statistics
[22:21] <ppf> kinda like with dd
[22:22] <turista> hello every1, did anyone here play mule in ubuntu?¿ cuz I "did install java" and the game just can't run
[22:22] <turista> it says something like "java" can't be find in the 'bin' folder or something alike
[22:22] <k1l_> turista: what did you install? and how?
[22:23] <turista> I did install firstly the openjdk 8 and the game just didn't run
[22:24] <turista> I did use chmod and these stuff, later I download the java package from the website (but not the rpm), and did follow the procedures on it, the instructions!
[22:24] <Colombo> ppf: true, thanks. Can I modify it? Totals is nice, but I would like to print the total number of gigs as well.
[22:25] <OerHeks> turista, try to set the correct java with 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[22:25] <turista> ./mule.sh: 11: ./mule.sh: /bin/java: not found
[22:25] <wedgie> sounds like a crappy script problem, not a java problem
[22:26] <nacc> java is usually /usr/bin/java, sounds like a bad script
[22:26] <wedgie> turista: the installer is looking in the wrong place for the java executable
[22:26] <wedgie> or whatever that script is
[22:26] <ppf> Colombo: divide the number of bytes by 1e9?
[22:26] <turista> should I paste the script?¿ wich's the link for pasting stuff
[22:27] <ppf> i don't think tar offers formatting settings. you'll have to parse it if you want to automate this
[22:27] <Colombo> thanks ppf and tomreyn
[22:28] <turista> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24003544/
[22:28] <OerHeks> java-6-sun is dead.
[22:28] <turista> dang
[22:29] <turista> how am I suppose to play the game, gosh
[22:29] <tomreyn> both dead and rotten by now
[22:29] <nacc> but even so, seems like your JAVA_HOME is set to a bad (empty?) value?
[22:29] <nacc> turista: --^
[22:29] <turista> I guess these ppl should make an update
[22:32] <NLPozen> Ubuntu - I scratched mine
[22:32] <NLPozen> .ping
[22:33] <turista> these ppl is disgusting, I'll have to use that java 6; but still so, is it possible if I try to work this script by myself?¿ :-P
[22:34] <turista> or will it be uncompatible anyway?¿
[22:34] <OerHeks> turista, set java as i posted, and edit that script with the exact java location? might work
[22:34] <OerHeks> java 8 should be backwards compatible AFAIK
[22:34] <wedgie> turista: just delete everything but lines 1, 2, and 11, and replace $JP with the actual path to your java location (find with ''command -v java'')
[22:35] <OerHeks> oh, wedgie answer is better ;-)
[22:41] <Jack3k3> i was using remote desktop(on a windows machine) to remote into my virtualbox of ubuntu but its very slow, was going to install a rdp or vnc directly in the ubuntu virtualbox to try, was wondering what people normally use that is fast/nonlaggy?
[22:41] <Jack3k3> I heard some good things about tightvnc and freenx
[22:41] <turista> gosh I did launch the game but, it crashes later >_<
[22:42] <turista> is there a way to update the video driver?¿
[22:42] <pavlos> Jack3k3, I use nomachine to access linux/win servers
[22:43] <Jack3k3> pavlos, nomachine is the proprietary freenx yea?
[22:43] <Jack3k3> any reason that differentiates it from say tightvnc?
[22:44] <pavlos> Jack3k3, idk ... there are free clients for linux/win, it is quite responsive
[22:44] <Jack3k3> all i care about really is speed and usability so if thats good, il go for it
[22:44] <Jack3k3> cool
[22:45] <hanshenrik__> i have a ubuntu 16.04, and i can't ssh login to root, not sure why
[22:45] <kaosine> ok stupid question, is there a iso that can fit on a 700mb cd? I'm trying to create one to test some old hardware and I've run into a snag on that end. I also don't have the money to try and find something larger....
[22:45] <hanshenrik__> i installed my public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys , in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, it says PermitRootLogin prohibit-password
[22:45] <turista> an old version then update?¿
[22:45] <wedgie> hanshenrik__: by default the root account is disabled on ubuntu. Also, by default, the sshd config will not allow root login via ssh
[22:46] <wedgie> hanshenrik__: in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys?
[22:46] <k1l_> hanshenrik__: you dont login to root on ubuntu. and never per ssh
[22:46] <OerHeks> set PermitRootLogin yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:46] <wedgie> OerHeks: no, what he has should work
[22:46] <OerHeks> oops, missed that
[22:46] <x-fak> hi
[22:47] <wedgie> hanshenrik__: check the permissions on the .ssh dir and authorized_keys file. They should be 700 and 600, respectively
[22:47] <x-fak> do you know a tool to find only readable strings into a binary file?
[22:47] <wedgie> hanshenrik__: also, i trust that you restarted the ssh service after you changed the config
[22:47] <hanshenrik__> OerHeks, actually, i believe if its "PermitRootLogin prohibit-password", it wont allow root to login by password, but will allow root to login by an authorized ssh host key
[22:47] <hanshenrik__> OerHeks, if it's "PermitRootLogin no" though, yeah, it won't allow root login via ssh
[22:48] <OerHeks> hanshenrik__, correct
[22:48] <hanshenrik__> wedgie, well, i did service ssh reload
[22:48] <Colombo> wut, tars --checkpoint is total bullshit
[22:48] <hanshenrik__> what the heck
[22:49] <hanshenrik__> wedgie, doing "root@honningas:/temp# namei -l ~/.ssh/authorized_keys | pastebinit
[22:49] <hanshenrik__> " , i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/24003646/
[22:49] <bazhang> Colombo, no cursing here
[22:49] <hanshenrik__> apparently, ~  does not translate to root's home folder
[22:49] <hanshenrik__> o.0
[22:50] <hanshenrik__> that explains it
[22:50] <hanshenrik__> i installed the public key using ~
[22:50] <wedgie> weird.
[22:50] <hanshenrik__> but apparently, that does not translate to /root
[22:51] <hanshenrik__> ... is that normal in ubuntu?
[22:51] <hanshenrik__> i come from debian, and i've never seen ~ doing that
[22:51] <nacc> hanshenrik__: how did you become root?
[22:51] <wedgie> well, the namei command is new to me, but usually ~ will be the current user's home directory. If you're doing some sudo funkyness sometimes it is not
[22:51] <hanshenrik__> it was either su or sudo -s
[22:52] <OerHeks> hanshenrik__, ~/ would be /home/$USER/
[22:52] <nacc> hanshenrik__: it matters which one
[22:52] <Colombo> bazhang: sorry
[22:52] <hanshenrik__> ok, i just checked, i used `sudo -s`
[22:52] <tomreyn> x-fak: strings :)
[22:52] <nacc> hanshenrik__: you want -H i believe
[22:52] <nacc> hanshenrik__: so just a misuse of sudo
[22:52] <x-fak> tomreyn , which argument can filter only the readable strings?
[22:53] <wedgie> sudo -s gets me /root as ~ on my system *shrug*
[22:53] <tomreyn> x-fak: define "readable"
[22:53] <k1l_> hanshenrik__: dont use su.
[22:53] <hanshenrik__> nacc, oh ok, i see. in debian, sudo -s  gets me /root
[22:53] <hanshenrik__> (in debian 8 and debian 9)
[22:53] <k1l_> hanshenrik__: ubuntu is build around sudo.
[22:53] <x-fak> tomreyn , readable for me means, only alphabetic or alphanumeric, no special chars
[22:53] <Colombo> anyone knows what actually the tar's checkpoint does? It doesn't seem like it counts files.
[22:54] <wedgie> "display progress messages every NUMBERth record (default 10)"
[22:54] <hanshenrik__> wedgie, ps, `namei -l` is very useful for debugging permission issues ^^
[22:54] <wedgie> Colombo: what is it that you're trying to accomplish
[22:55] <Colombo> wedgie: seriously, I can read the damn documentation
[22:55] <Colombo> wedgie: copying stuff from doc is not helpful.
[22:55] <tomreyn> x-fak: is "strings" without extra arguments not doing what you expect then?
[22:55] <bazhang> Colombo, we have asked you to not curse here
[22:55] <Colombo> wedgie: Interpreting, maybe, but this is not what have YOU done...
[22:55] <Colombo> bazhang: ah, sorry, don't know what everything is considered "curse" here.
[22:56] <Colombo> wedgie: this is answer I wanted: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/153242/in-which-units-does-tar-checkpoint-measure
[22:56] <tomreyn> x-fak: you can filter its output more by piping into grep
 x-fak: is "strings" without extra arguments not doing what you expect then? <-nop
[23:00] <nplus> Any recommendations for joining a ubuntu server to an active directory domain? I've used BeyondTrust (formerly LikewiseOpen) in the past with succes
[23:01] <hanshenrik__> active directory, is that the MS Windows "shared folders" thing?
[23:01] <tomreyn> x-fak: strings /path/to/somebinaryfile | grep -E '^[[:alnum:]]+$'
[23:01] <x-fak> tomreyn , thank
[23:02] <nplus> hanshenrik__: kinda sorta - active directory is the authentication backend for windows, kinda like LDAP (I think)
[23:02] <tomreyn> x-fak: this will only allow sequences of alphanumeric characerts, no blank space, no padding, nothing else.
[23:02] <hanshenrik__> after explicitly installing the public key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys  instead of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys , login works as expected :)
[23:03] <x-fak> tomreyn , yes that's what it should do
[23:03] <MSDOS6> hi
[23:03] <MSDOS6> can i upgrade this to ubuntu? https://i.imgur.com/COJLEgG
[23:04] <hanshenrik__> haha what is that?
[23:04] <hanshenrik__> Windows 3.1?
[23:04] <MSDOS6> windows for workgroups 3.11
[23:04] <nplus> ultimately what I'm looking for is central user/group management. we have a bunch of windows & ubuntu servers, a single account is desirable
[23:04] <tomreyn> MSDOS6: this is for ubuntu support, not for trolling. if you're looking for a social chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:05] <MSDOS6> you guys are no fun
[23:05] <hanshenrik__> MSDOS6, i just googled it, that's a windows 3.1 edition indeed, awesome, how did you get it online? o.0
[23:05] <hanshenrik__> you should probably take it to #anime or something tho, not #ubuntu
[23:06] <nplus> hanshenrik__: he's gone
[23:06] <hanshenrik__> ohk
[23:06] <OerHeks> there is a zx-81 webserver too, somewhere... lolz
[23:07] <kunji> nplus: I think at work the IT uses Active Directory across all our systems (Windows and Ubuntu mostly, some Macs), unfortunately I don't know how they set it up.
[23:08] <kunji> nplus: In the context of a domain controller.
[23:11] <kunji> nplus: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html  https://blog.netnerds.net/2016/04/joining-ubuntu-to-an-active-directory-domain/
[23:12] <nplus> I have a active directory / domain controller already. It just seems like getting an ubuntu server joined to the domain (for auth) is one of those things with a bunch of options.. winbind + samba, or SSSD, or BeyondTrust
[23:12] <kunji> nplus: Yes, that guide assumes you already have the domain controller setup
[23:15] <KOLANICH> Can anyone install python3-zope.interface and check if pip would work?
[23:15] <nplus> kunji: ok thanks
[23:15] <nplus> just gotta pick my poison I guess lol
[23:16] <OerHeks> !info python3-zope.interface
[23:16] <OerHeks> it is in our repos
[23:18] <kunji> nplus: The second link suggests that SSSD is the modern poison of choice, good luck, and I'll assume you have backups :P
[23:19] <nplus> kunji: thanks! still reading away here :)
[23:38] <ron____> Hello. When someone get's a chance could I get a bit of help? I'm installing Ubuntu 14.04 and I'm having trouble connecting to the internet
[23:39] <Bashing-om> ron____: Connected wired or WIFI ?
[23:39] <masite> is wine installed by default in ubuntu 16.04?
[23:40] <ron____> Bashing-om: Wired. It's not connecting to the router
[23:40] <masite> can someone please tell me
[23:41] <OerHeks> masite, wine is NEVER installed standard
[23:41] <masite> OerHeks: i just installed winetricks and playlinux, and i purged all of them. however i realized that by purging winetricks, wine got removed too
[23:41] <masite> is this detrimental in any way
[23:41] <OerHeks> masite, that is valid, as dependencie
[23:41] <masite> will my system screw up in the next boot
[23:42] <OerHeks> instll wine, then POL, if you remove POL, wine would stick AFAIK
[23:42] <masite> OerHeks: will removing wine completely from the system be detrimental in anyway?
[23:43] <Bashing-om> ron____: Ubuntu desktop install ? Is the hardware seen ' lspci | grep Ethernet ' .
[23:43] <masite> any way*
[23:43] <OerHeks> masite, i don't understand that question?
[23:44] <ron____> Bashing-om: Yes and yes.
[23:44] <masite> OerHeks: i mean, if i remove wine completely from my system, will it screw up something?
[23:44] <OerHeks> masite, no, ubuntu should work just fine.
[23:44] <masite> ok thanks
[23:44] <OerHeks> yw
[23:44] <Bashing-om> ron____: K; then next is to know if you get a IP ' ifconfig eth0 ' .
[23:46] <ron____> Bashing-om: Nope. Nothing there. I can set it manually, but that doesn't help me get internet
[23:47] <ron____> Bashing-om: Just an inet6 addr that's not working
[23:49] <Bashing-om> ron____: In the desktop it is network-manager that manages networking . what returns ' grep "managed=" /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf " ?
[23:50] <ron____> Bashing-om: managed=true
[23:50] <Bashing-om> ron____: grep "managed=" /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[23:51] <Colombo> uh, stupid question: Is there actually live CD for 16.04? I don't have DVD.
[23:51] <Bashing-om> ron____: That says that "you" will manage networking rather than the system . is this what you want ? ( no mobile ) .
[23:51] <ron____> Bashing-om: no way hahahah. I'd much rather it be automatic
[23:51] <k1l_> Colombo: lubuntu i guess. the others are too big for cd these days
[23:52] <pavlos> Colombo, you mean something to fit in a CD? not sure
[23:52] <Bashing-om> !minimal | Colombo
[23:52] <WeiJunLi> There's a way to fix "Alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell" busybox initramfs?
[23:52] <OerHeks> Colombo, do you have a 2gb/2gb+ usb device?
[23:52] <OerHeks> that would work too
[23:53] <pavlos> Colombo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:53] <OerHeks> minimal has no live option
[23:54] <Bashing-om> ron____: Let;s return to network-manager then . change managed=true to false . and restart networking . see what the system says upon the restart .
[23:55] <Colombo> thanks all
[23:55] <ron____> Bashing-om: Upon restart I still don't get an ip address :(
[23:57] <Bashing-om> ron____: In the GUI , is "DHCP" set to auto ?
[23:59] <ron____> Bashing-om: Network Connections gui? Yes. Under IPv4 Settings I have Method set to Automatic (DHCP). I have a couple additional DNS servers that I added to try to help connect, too. Everything else is blank there