[20:28] <Joel> I have SSL certs in /etc/ssl/private, which are owned by root:root, any way for logstash to read them before it drops privileges to the logstash user? 
[20:29] <Joel> I'm wondering if there's someway I can get upstart to open the file handle before it drops privs?
[20:29] <Joel> probably not, seemed worth a try though
[20:46] <hallyn> not that i know of right now, but that seems like a useful extension (for when i fork upstart :)  akin to UPSTART_FDS