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infinityslangasek, nacc: Build-Conflicts in LP are basically pointless, since every build chroot is "fresh", so the only things you could conflict against is stuff we have installed on purpose, which you may find less than helpful to do.01:04
infinity(If you're talking crypto stacks, it's probably there because of apt-transport-https, which needs to be there to support private PPAs)01:04
infinityBut fixing build systems to not wig out about locally-installed cruft is always more robust than a Build-Conflict anyway.01:05
slangasekinfinity: right, so in a public build where apt-transport-https isn't needed, would a Build-Conflicts: with it successfully remove it and let the build proceed?01:07
naccinfinity: yeah, i think that's the right answer, just not exactly sure what hte right fix should be -- have some ideas (and i have one hacky method that does work) -- but i'm still thinking about the 'right' solution01:07
infinityslangasek: It's plausible that sbuild might remove it for you, yeah.01:08
naccslangasek: but in this specific case, that won't help, because of the b-d on libldap2-dev itself :/01:08
slangasekright01:08
infinityThough, in *this* case, it's particularly silly for a package to fail to build when its own binaries are already installed.01:08
naccyeah, it's a testcase bug, without question01:09
infinityThat almost has to be a bug in the Debian packaging somewhere, cause I can't fathom how an upstream wouldn't notice.01:09
infinityOh, it's just the testsuite?01:09
naccit's the generated LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the test wrapper01:09
infinityThat's more plausible that someone committed an oops there indeed.01:09
infinityWe've had any number of glibc tests over the years that were accidentally testing the system libc.01:10
naccwhich is putting the system  libs in there, since sqlite3 is from the system, and then we end up pickin gup heimdal-crypto from it and there's an ABI mismatch01:10
infinityTurns out that's really hard to notice until it breaks.01:10
infinitynacc: Surely, the build directories should always be listed first.01:11
infinityThere's literally no point in an LD_LIBRARY_PATH that puts your special things last.01:11
infinity"Yeah, I guess maybe test that one, if nothing else is around *shrug*"01:12
wxlwhat about figuratively?01:12
naccinfinity: yeah, i agree -- it's just 'happening' to do this, it feels like01:12
nacci think upstream heimdal may build sqlite3 at the same time? not sure01:12
infinityEw.01:12
naccinfinity: but i agree, it makes sense (esp. for this testcase) to i think order the LD_LIBRARY_PATH01:13
naccor something like that, just need to figure out what generates them and tweak it, i expect01:13
* infinity nods.01:13
infinityLD_LIBRARY_PATH should always be hand-crafted for a sane order.01:13
infinityWell, "hand-crafted" that would ideally use an intelligent generator, but you know what I mean.01:13
infinity"Have some random paths" will end in sad.01:14
naccyeah01:14
naccvery sad in this case :)01:14
infinityI'd cite the glibc testsuite as a solid example of how to get this right (now), but also, don't read it.01:14
naccheh01:15
infinityWe may reach a critical tipping point where lines of make outnumber lines of C in glibc at some point.01:16
infinity(Not really, but it feels that way)01:16
mwhudsoninfinity: does it use dejagnu?01:22
infinitymwhudson: Nope.01:28
mwhudsoninfinity: well that's something at lest01:31
mwhudson*least01:31
* mwhudson remembers "DejaGNU has to be stopped somewhere." https://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2008-03/msg00221.html01:37
ubottusourceware.org bug 2008 in ld "Segfault on IA64, something to do with Unwind and section ordering" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]01:37
mwhudsonlol01:43
Unit193sarnold: BTW, atheme-services, https://github.com/atheme/atheme/blob/master/NEWS.md (CVE-2014-9773, CVE-2016-4478) That's the version Zesty has.03:20
ubottumodules/chanserv/flags.c in Atheme before 7.2.7 allows remote attackers to modify the Anope FLAGS behavior by registering and dropping the (1) LIST, (2) CLEAR, or (3) MODIFY keyword nicks. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-9773)03:20
ubottuBuffer overflow in the xmlrpc_char_encode function in modules/transport/xmlrpc/xmlrpclib.c in Atheme before 7.2.7 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service via vectors related to XMLRPC response encoding. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2016-4478)03:20
sarnoldxmlrpc processing in irc? o_O what happened to our crappy thirty year old protocol?03:24
Unit193.8 is a fix+more for .7, and .9 is a fix for .8. :P03:25
UHckhey03:35
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UHckI want to know what are other developers working on right now so I can help out I want to be MOTU03:40
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Laneytjaalton: I guess you saw the dogtag-pki autopkgtest failures?11:27
tjaaltonLaney: the old one?11:41
tjaalton-2ubuntu1 should fix that11:41
Laneyok11:42
LaneyI didn't see that on excuses11:42
tjaaltonuploaded -3 to debian and then decided I can't wait 10h :)11:42
UHck_Hey does anyone know any cool projects being worked on for chromium11:59
UHck_I meant ubuntu11:59
tjaaltonwhy the armhf builder is so painfully slow..12:02
cult-xnox: thanks for your work! how long it takes to move the proposed packages to the universal repo?12:42
xnoxcult-, everything is described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates have you read it?12:44
xnoxplus not everything has been published yet.12:45
cult-alright. i verified it already. do we have to verify all the other packages?12:45
liveisoHi IRC Council13:15
liveisoany articles about how official daily ISO are build?13:16
Laneytjaalton: It's failing still https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-zesty/zesty/amd64/d/dogtag-pki/20170216_132005_70578@/log.gz13:20
Laneydid you run it locally?13:21
tjaaltonSetting up libresteasy-java (3.0.19-2)13:21
tjaaltonwhere did that come from13:21
tjaaltonit should depend on 3.1.0-213:22
tjaaltonah heck13:22
tjaaltononly on build-depends13:23
Laney/o\13:23
liveisoany one know how a ubuntu daily build are created?13:24
tjaaltonstill, proposed is enabled so why doesn't it pick up the new one13:24
Odd_Blokeliveiso: They're built in Launchpad's builders using livecd-rootfs and live-build.  Do you have a specific question/issue?13:25
Laneyyou get the minimal amount of things from proposed13:27
liveisoHi Odd_Bloke, I want to learn advanced knowledge and background info13:28
liveisohttps://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-manual/stable/manual/html/live-manual.en.html13:28
liveisoI know debian distro has this project to build ISO, so I ask the same project that creating daily iso for ubuntu13:29
tjaaltonLaney: oh well, that's not what breaks the test though13:29
tjaaltonI have it working with 3.0.19-3 just fine13:29
liveisoafter several google search (result quite less..), I guess there must be a build team in launchpad13:30
Laneytjaalton: This command fails in the same way for me: autopkgtest -s -U --apt-pocket=proposed=src:dogtag-pki dogtag-pki -- lxd autopkgtest/ubuntu/zesty/amd6413:34
tjaaltonI've lost my lxc images13:39
tjaaltoncan't remember how I tested these four months ago13:39
Laneyautopkgtest-build-lxd images:ubuntu/zesty/amd6413:40
Laneyassuming lxd works for you in general13:40
LaneyI would guess that qemu will do the same too13:40
tjaaltonlxd doesn't work because my uid is silly13:45
tjaaltoncreating the image does, autopkgtest does not13:46
tjaaltonworks with sudo13:47
tjaaltonand fails the same13:51
tjaaltonhow can I see what lxd images are around?13:51
Laneylxc image list13:51
tjaaltonthx13:52
tjaaltondunno then, pkispawn works fine on a qemu host13:52
Laneyautopkgtest-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud -r zesty, replace the end of the autopkgtest command with -- qemu autopkgtest-zesty-amd64.img13:56
Laneythat fails in the same way13:56
Laneyqemu instead of lxd this time13:56
tjaaltonokay13:57
tjaaltoni'll look into it14:00
Laneyawesome14:02
Laneynow I can lunch happy14:02
tjaaltonLaney: weird, restarting it manually from the autopkgtest instance works14:47
Laneyfun15:21
tjaaltonguess I found the bug, just don't know why it happens now15:30
tjaaltonFeb 16 15:11:38 autopkgtest-lxd-nffbdq pki-tomcatd[7293]: ERROR:  No 'tomcat' instances installed!15:30
tjaaltonit runs "/etc/init.d/pki-tomcatd start pki-tomcat" and it fails, with just "start" it works15:31
naccrbasak: caribou: sorry if already discussed, but in the nut merge, is that conflict context in the diff? (<<<<<< =====)16:24
rbasaknacc: it's not present. I think it's because it technically conflicts with debian/sid because debian/sid is slightly newer now.16:25
rbasakI think it's an LP bug.16:25
naccrbasak: oh ok, wasn't sure, just saw it in the e-mail16:26
smoserhey...  the open-iscsi tests take a long time to run.16:32
smoser and end in timeout sometimes16:32
smoser example https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-zesty/zesty/i386/o/open-iscsi/20170210_235810_8d27d@/log.gz16:32
smoseranyone have suggestions on how to do that ?16:32
smoserto increase the timeout essentially? it was *not* hung, it just is slow16:33
smoserand then... cloud-utils is held because of such a failure (and another failure also). my uploaded version of open-iscsi from yesterday should be fixed16:34
pittiLaney: ^ add it to long_tests in worker*.conf, please?16:34
smoserdo i just hit the recycle icon ?16:34
Laneylong_tests16:34
Laneypitti: Yes, I know, thanks.16:34
smoser\o/ that was easy.16:34
pittiah, good :)16:34
smoserso do ij ust hit the recycle button ?16:34
LaneyYou wait, and then do that16:35
pittimakes more sense to wait until the change is deployed16:35
LaneyI have to pull in like 9999 locations16:36
* Laney sniggers16:36
smoserok. thank you.16:38
Laneysmoser: ok, do it now16:40
nacctjaalton: hrm, new dogtag-pki also fails autopkgtest16:44
tjaaltonI know16:45
Laneyhaha16:45
tjaaltonit's some sort of a race condition16:45
nacctjaalton: i can reproduce locally -- it seems like a tomcat interaction?16:45
tjaaltonno16:45
nacctjaalton: it reproduces every time for me at home -- doesn't feel like a race we ever win :)16:45
tjaaltondoes autopkgtest drop to a shell?16:46
tjaaltondoes so here16:46
nacctjaalton: not the way it is run in the automatic tests, but with -s, yes16:47
nacctjaalton: i'm at the shell in a failure at home, if you want me to debug anything16:47
tjaalton"/etc/init.d/pki-tomcatd stop; /etc/init.d/pki-tomcatd start pki-tomcat" works fine after the test fails16:47
tjaaltonit thinks /etc/dogtag/tomcat is empty16:47
tjaaltonthe first time16:47
tarpmantjaalton: this isn't the same thing I wrote about in bug 1664453?16:49
ubottubug 1664453 in dogtag-pki (Ubuntu) "autopkgtests failing with systemd-232" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166445316:49
nacctarpman: good bug/reminder16:49
tjaaltontarpman: now it is, after all the other bugs got sorted16:50
tjaaltonor maybe is16:50
tjaaltonbut the error was16:50
tjaaltonFeb 16 15:11:38 autopkgtest-lxd-nffbdq pki-tomcatd[7293]: ERROR:  No 'tomcat' instances installed!16:50
tjaaltonfrom the initscript16:50
tjaaltonthat left the job in "active(exited)" status16:50
tarpmanmy analysis was - that happens when the package is initially installed, before anything is configured16:50
tjaaltonah16:51
tjaaltoncould be16:51
tarpmanbut the start() issued from pkispawn is a no-op because systemd considers the service already started16:51
tjaaltonyeah the timestamp might suggest that actually16:51
tarpmanI changed start() to restart() in scriptlets/configuration.py and that made the test pass on my system *shrug*16:51
tarpmanthis is all in the bug, anyway ;)16:51
tjaaltonsure16:52
tjaaltonit really shouldn't start anything by default16:52
tarpmanI was wondering about that. not sure how to set up a sysv service that starts on boot but not when installed - at least without resorting to ENABLED=0 sort of hacks16:53
tjaaltonI'll fix the initscript17:01
nacctjaalton: where does the 143 SuccessExitStatus come from?17:01
tjaaltonnacc: where?17:02
nacctjaalton: in the pki-tomcatd service file17:02
tjaaltonno idea17:02
tjaaltonupstream17:02
nacc'pki-tomcat' must still be CONFIGURED! ... (see /var/log/pki-tomcat-install.log). Which doesn't exist :)17:03
smosernacc, do i need to kick the importer manually ?17:03
smoserit does not have my open-iscsi upload from yesterda17:03
ogra_wouldnt that be "footually" (if you kick) ?17:04
ogra_:)17:04
tjaaltonnacc: where do you see that path?17:04
naccsmoser: let me check17:04
nacctjaalton: i was messing around locally and trying to start the service after the failure and `systemctl status pki-tomcatd` says that17:04
tjaaltonnacc: 143; https://fedorahosted.org/pki/ticket/71617:05
nacctjaalton: ack, thanks17:06
tjaaltonnacc: ok, found it.. looks like it's a bit misleading message :) fedora doesn't use any of the initscript crap anymore, but we have no choice because tomcat has not migrated17:07
naccsmoser: hrm, it seems like it should have, you're right. kicking it17:10
naccsmoser: there must be a bug in my logic, i'll take a look17:12
nacctjaalton: ok :)17:12
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nacctjaalton: manually running the failing test immediately after being dropped to the shell does produce this gem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24008402/17:31
tjaaltonhehe17:33
tjaaltonI've got a working initscript now..17:36
tjaaltonwhich fails the right way ;)17:36
tjaaltonleaves the job in a failed state, guess that's proper.. test passes now17:50
nacctjaalton: cool, uploading?17:55
tjaaltonin a bit17:56
nacctjaalton: ok17:57
naccsmoser: i think it should be there now18:01
naccrbasak: just to verify, you've not pushed your snapd import fix to master, right?18:02
tjaaltonnacc: done18:02
nacctjaalton: thanks!18:02
rbasaknacc: I thought you had?18:07
* rbasak looks18:07
naccrbasak: hrm, it's failing to import, let me check18:07
naccrbasak: yeah it's there18:07
rbasakWhat's the error?18:07
naccrbasak: checking18:07
naccrbasak: i bet it's failing to FF one of the -devel heads18:08
naccrbasak: that just happend to tomcat8 too18:09
naccrbasak: bah i know why18:10
naccrbasak: the importer's repo is out of date18:10
rbasakAh18:11
naccrbasak: sorry for the noise18:11
nacctjaalton: i think we can sync -3 from debian, right?18:16
nacctjaalton: as in, it's the same as 2ubuntu1 afaict18:16
tjaaltonnacc: I uploaded this as -3u118:18
nacctjaalton: ah ok18:18
tjaaltondebian can wait for this, as it's busted there anyway18:18
nacctjaalton: just didn't see it in the queue or on lp18:19
* nacc will be patient18:19
tjaaltonzesty-changes has it18:19
tjaaltonarmhf build will take 2h18:19
rbasaknacc: if you have time, would you mind casting your eyes over https://git.launchpad.net/~racb/ubuntu/+source/nut/log/?h=merge please, before I upload? caribou is out now, so he can't check for me.18:19
naccrbasak: lookin18:20
nacc*looking18:20
naccrbasak: do we care that there is a 2.7.4-5 already?18:24
rbasakOh, good point.18:24
nacclooks to be a debian bugfix, so not urgent, i suppose18:24
naccrbasak: the debian/tests/test-nut.py is formatted a bit funny18:25
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naccrbasak: in that the "+ 5..." i think is actually not a sub-bullet18:25
rbasaknacc: in the changelog?18:26
naccrbasak: yeah18:27
naccrbasak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24008659/18:27
naccrbasak: the first line just ends 'give nut at most'18:27
rbasakwAh18:28
rbasakAh18:28
rbasakAnd now that you point it out, some of the other bullets are indented wrong or use the wrong bullet type.18:28
rbasakThanks, I'll fix up.18:28
rbasakAlso I just rebased to debian/sid. Seems to work.18:28
naccyeah, cosmetic, but worth cleaning now18:28
naccnice18:28
naccrbasak: othewrise, contentfully looks good18:28
mapreriis DIF already in effect really?18:28
naccrbasak: i do think we should at some point adjust our documentation to drop whitespace noise in the changelog diffs18:29
naccrbasak: the tail of the debian/changelog changes is all noise18:29
naccrbasak: as well as a deletion of some metadata?18:29
rbasakgit-merge-changelogs is a no-op.18:31
rbasakAnd a diff against old/ubuntu shows no changes apart from the dropping of the emacs modelines at the bottom18:31
naccack, i'm not saying the merge is wrong18:31
rbasakSo it's an error carried forward. Opinions on fixing up?18:31
nacci'm suggesting we fix those errors :)18:31
naccnot urgent for this merge18:31
rbasakLet's leave it for now. We can discuss later. I feel that's a job for our tooling.18:32
naccwe should talk about it generally, though, it's just noisy, and adds some overhead to the review (trivial amount, probably)18:32
rbasakYeah18:32
rbasakhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24008663/ are my changes from what you've just reviewed. Look good?18:32
rbasakasciidoc-dblatex is picked up from latest sid.18:33
rbasakIt's in universe, but appears to be a documentation building thing anyway, so I don't think it'll result in a component mismatch (new rules)18:33
naccrbasak: yep, looks good18:34
rbasakThank you for the review! Uploading now.18:34
rbasakOh, and I need to bump the version.18:35
naccrbasak: err, right18:36
rbasakAnd it FTBFS due to a symbol mismatch :-(18:43
rbasakOddly, it's on ppc64el only. caribou, do you mind looking into that when you're back please?18:50
rbasakI filed bug 1665431 so hopefully we (server team) won't forget.18:51
ubottubug 1665431 in nut (Ubuntu) "nut 2.7.4-5ubuntu1 FTBFS on ppc64el" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166543118:51
naccinfinity: not urgent, but the heimdal issue seems to actually be from libtool itself (ltmain.sh generates the wrapper script and doesn't elide system library paths from a variable called temp_rpath like it does for a few others (compile_rpath and finalize_rpath)). Not entirely sure how to fix, since that gets regenerated at build-time from libtool18:53
jgrimmnacc, have time for a merge review (/me races against the FF clock)18:53
naccjgrimm: i should be able to18:53
naccjgrimm: which one?18:53
jgrimmnacc, https://code.launchpad.net/~jgrimm/ubuntu/+source/libqb/+git/libqb/+merge/31754018:53
naccjgrimm: well, and technically, FF has happened (see /topic)18:54
jgrimmnacc, /me had 3pm in his head18:55
* nacc is not entirely sure what DIF stands for18:55
sarnoldwhat's DIF?18:55
naccheh18:55
naccLaney: --^18:55
sarnoldnothing useful looking in lastlog or google "ubuntu DIF" ..18:55
naccjgrimm: the merge looks good, but if FF is in place, we'd need an FFe, i think18:56
Unit193Debian Import Freeze, sarnold.18:56
sarnoldthanks Unit193 :D18:56
naccUnit193: ah thanks!18:56
Unit193No problem.18:56
jgrimmnacc, Zesty will be enter Feature Freeze at 21:00 UTC tonight. ?18:57
nacchrm, maybe DIF is meant to be the 'type' of freeze right now?18:57
jgrimmwas email sent out a bit ago18:58
naccjgrimm: to which list?18:58
jgrimmnacc, ubuntu-release at least18:58
rbasakjgrimm: taking the autofs merge.18:58
jgrimmnacc, and ubuntu-devel-announce18:58
naccjgrimm: ack18:59
jgrimmrbasak, ack and thanks.18:59
jgrimmnacc, thanks18:59
Unit193Archives haven't picked 'em up.19:00
rbasakjgrimm: autofs merge uploaded.19:32
rbasakIt was trivial, so I didn't file an MP.19:32
rbasakAlso *none* of the patches added over the years appears to have been upstreamed, which is quite disappointing.19:33
jgrimmrbasak, thanks sir19:33
rbasakI've made a note to do that.19:33
jgrimmrbasak, yeah seems to be a mixed bag on whether that happens. i like that we've been religious this cycle19:33
naccinfinity: this is rather ugly, but it does seem to at least pass the tests now. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24008952/19:34
infinitynacc: patch is build-essential, you don't need to build-dep on it.19:35
naccinfinity: ah ok19:36
nacci think i've seen another src pkg that has had to similar runtime patching outside of quilt, but I can't recall. I don't love it, and it feels fragile, but I'm also not a libtool expert as to why temp_rpath hasn't been made to resemble the other rpath's19:37
robrucyphermox: so, looking at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/303039011/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-arm64.fbset_2.1-29_BUILDING.txt.gz is that as easy as it looks? just add -fPIC?19:47
cyphermoxfrom my naive look at it, yeah19:48
robruok I'll give it a shot19:51
infinityProbably not that simple.19:51
infinityThat one might rely on a dpkg merge magically making it happy.19:52
infinityWhich I need to do immediatelt after feature freeze. :P19:53
infinityrobru: Given that the fbset change was to use dpkg-buildflags, and it worked in Debian and not Ubuntu, *and* the upload was by the dpkg maintainer, I'll give 90-to-1 odds it relies on a newer dpkg-buildflags. ;)19:54
robruinfinity: so I'll leave that for you then?19:55
Unit193Ah, that's when.  I'd asked but you may have been busy.  I'd presume/hope that depends on LP 1657704 (or, at least not rejecting the upload.)19:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1657704 in Launchpad itself "please start storing buildinfo files, for new dpkg versions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165770419:56
infinityUnit193: Yes.  I'll need to talk to Colin before I go breaking the world.20:02
jgrimmare autopkgtests able to touch real world internet? python-boto tests want to interact with AWS, works fine on my system, but possibly not allowed in real build/test infra?20:14
stgraberjgrimm: so long as you test deals fine with http_proxy and https_proxy you should be fine. Direct connection isn't allowed, but a proxy is provided for adt tests to access the internet.20:20
jgrimmstgraber, ok good to know, i'll  look for that20:20
jgrimmi should probably set my local testing with that configuration too, catch things pre-upload20:21
jgrimmor learn to use bileto..doh20:22
smoserhey. anyone ran autopkgtest on ppc64el ?20:35
smoserfailing for me like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24009324/20:35
wxlsmoser: could be wrong but i thought i saw some discussion on that on -release20:35
smosermy history doesnt show anything similar, other than that infinity probably can tell me what is wrong.20:37
naccinfinity: fwiw, i've sent an e-mail to the libtool list to ask about it, but do you think that change makes sense otherwise?20:38
infinitynacc: I don't have the time to unpack it and have an opinion, sorry. :/20:42
naccinfinity: no problem!20:42
naccrbasak: would you be around by any chance?20:42
rbasaknacc: o/20:46
bdmurraysmoser: Do you have any plans to update curtin for yakkety like is being done for xenial?20:55
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slangaseknacc: heh, running process-removals... an awful lot of packages removed from Debian unstable in December because they were uninstallable w/ php7 and never fixed21:44
naccslangasek: not too surprising21:47
naccinfinity: quick check-in, I briefed rbasak on my chnage, I've verified it should have no impact on the built packages (just lets the test pass), I've opened a bugtask on libtool in the heimdal bug. We can alwasy revert the chagne if you find time to review and disagree with it. Are you ok if I upload the fix?21:56
infinitynacc: I have no opinion.  If it fixes things and breaks nothing, go for it.21:56
naccinfinity: ok :)21:57
nacci'm struggling to figure out why a debian/.gitignore file is being deleted by my dpkg-buildpackage runs. I think maybe I'm missing a flag, but -i -I doesn't seem to make a difference.22:13
rbasaknacc: don't you *not* want -i -I if you want stuff like that included?22:15
naccrbasak: it didn't seem to make a difference either way22:19
infinitynacc: It's meant to be excluded.22:19
naccrbasak: maybe because it's debian/.gitignore rather than .gitignore?22:19
infinitynacc: And "-i -I" (without extra args) are the default now, I thought.22:19
naccinfinity: right, but for some reason it still shows up as deleted in the debdiff (and it's not present in the debian.tar.xz)22:19
infinityErr.  Yes, I'm arguing that's a good thing.22:20
rbasakI didn't realise it was default.22:20
rbasakBut if it is, then AFAICT nacc's reported behaviour is the expected behaviour.22:20
infinityI could be wrong, but I thought it had become the default.  I dunno, '-i -I' are finger memory for me.22:20
rbasakAnd debdiffs would show one deletion at the point where the default changed.22:20
naccacck22:21
tarpmandefault for 3.0 source formats, isn't it?22:21
xnoxbarry, maybe i should do that, no?22:42
xnoxif you are about to SRU https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1647031 into yakkety?22:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1647031 in systemd "systemd-resolved’s 127.0.0.53 server does not follow CNAME records" [Unknown,New]22:42
barryxnox: you're welcome to do the sru :)  i was going to cherry-pick back the two reverted revisions in zesty22:43
xnoxbarry, what was reverted?22:43
barryxnox: 98974a88 and 47c16e5922:43
xnoxbarry, i already made a zesty upload with -18 merge and other patches that were in the queue outstanding.22:43
barrythey cherry picked cleanly22:43
barryxnox: i'm running the autopkgtests now and then will test the packages on my vm22:44
xnoxbarry, which repository is that in? cause I don't see those in either debian or the upstream systemd =/22:44
barryxnox: that's because it's in network-manager and i haven't pushed the revisions yet :)22:44
xnoxbarry, carry on! =)22:44
barry% git remote -v22:44
barryorigingit+ssh://barry@git.launchpad.net/~network-manager/network-manager/+git/ubuntu (fetch)22:44
barryxnox: :)22:44
xnoxbarry, i thought you are talking about systemd ;-)22:44
barryxnox: slangasek already uploaded the systemd fix that broke nm22:45
barryi'm just reverting nm back to using resolved22:45
naccjgrimm: fyi, heimdal build fix is committed, just waiting on arm64 to finish (it successfully built everywhere else)22:53
jgrimmack22:53
tjaaltonnacc: finally, dogtag tests pass23:09
kyrofaSo let's say I wanted to compare the size of an Ubuntu Core image with the size of an Ubuntu Server image. I'm having trouble determining what exactly to compare. I have a basic uncompressed Ubuntu Core image, but comparing to e.g. the Server ISO makes no sense23:13
jgrimmtjaalton, \o/23:13
sarnoldkyrofa: a cloud image is probably most immediately comparable http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/23:13
kyrofasarnold, I thought about that, but which one? disk1?23:14
kyrofa(.img)23:14
sarnoldkyrofa: that's probably the best choice; I don't know which of the others would have compression (but based on the sizes I could guess..)23:15
kyrofasarnold, alright great, thank you!23:16
kyrofasarnold, this Ubuntu Core image is 689.5MB, whereas the Ubuntu Server disk1.img is 322.8MB. How is that possible?23:26
nacctjaalton: nice!23:27
kyrofaI could the image could include dead space...23:27
sarnoldkyrofa: heh, good question. are there published manifestts that might explain the differences?23:27
kyrofasarnold, not published, no. I know they're generated, but I'm not sure where they are23:27
kyrofasarnold, if I compressed them both with the same args, think that'd account for any padding in the partitioning? Or would that completely invalidate the comparison?23:28
sarnoldkyrofa: I think that would be ideal; I doubt there's much padding otherwise we'd serve it compressed...23:28
kyrofasarnold, I'm talking Ubuntu Core here (which is indeed served compressed), so good deal, I'll give that a shot23:29
kyrofasarnold, yep, you're right, like 5MB savings on the server image. Still waiting on core...23:34
kyrofasarnold, *cough* 417MB. Definitely padding, and definitely still larger than the cloud img23:42
* kyrofa deletes a slide from his deck23:43

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