[04:11] <superfly> Maaz: tell nsnzero You can "compile" Python using PyInstaller
[04:11] <Maaz> superfly: Sure, I'll tell nsnzero on freenode
[05:59] <inetpro> goeie more
[05:59] <Langjan> Hi inetpro hoe gaan dit?
[06:00] <inetpro> uitgeput... van die oggendverkeer vir geen rede 
[06:01] <inetpro> Langjan: en daar?
[06:01] <Langjan> Ai! Jammer om te hoor.  
[06:01] <Langjan> Hier allles wel dankie
[06:01] <Langjan> Wat dink jy veroorsaak die uitputting? 
[06:06] <Langjan> inetpro, probeer die dag so begin: http://verslank.net/waterterapie-uit-japan/
[06:08] <inetpro> Langjan: eks darem nie liggamlik uitgeput nie, net vies
[06:08] <Langjan> Taxis ens?
[06:09] <inetpro> op so 'n mooi sonskyn Donderdag oggend behoort die verkeer mooi te loop
[06:11] <Langjan> So kan jy vrede in die verkeer ook ervaar: http://verslank.net/176-2/toe-val-die-lig/bomenslike-vrede-oorkom-kompulsiewe-gedrag/
[06:12] <Langjan> Ek moet gaan, geniet die res van die dag en ek hoop die verkeer loop vanmiddag mooi
[06:20] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Langjan ERROR 503 at 08:15 with message, "Briefly unavailable for scheduled maintenance. Check back in a minute."...  and 5 minutes later still down
[06:20] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[06:21] <chesedo> morning inetpro and all others
[06:21] <inetpro> hi chesedo
[06:36] <nsnzero> morning guys
[06:36] <Maaz> nsnzero: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell nsnzero You can "compile" Python using PyInstaller" 2 hours and 25 minutes ago
[06:51] <chesedo> morning nsnzero
[06:56] <nsnzero> hi chesedo 
[07:21] <Kilos> morning everyone and inetpro 
[07:27] <nsnzero> hi Kilos how you doing ?
[07:28] <Kilos> im ok ty msand you?
[07:28] <Kilos> ai!
[07:28] <Kilos> nsnzero 
[07:30] <nsnzero> i just found out that i am allergic to work .... it makes me so tired ...
[07:33] <nsnzero> found out that by using file:///home/nsnzero/backup
[07:33] <nsnzero> file:///home/nsnzero/mount-sams
[07:33] <nsnzero> file:///home/nsnzero/unmount-sams
[07:33] <nsnzero> oops
[07:33] <nsnzero> by using file:///home/nsnzero/backup
[07:33] <nsnzero> file:///home/nsnzero/mount-sams
[07:33] <nsnzero> file:///home/nsnzero/unmount-sams
[07:34] <nsnzero> what the ... why isn't this thing pasting properly ??? 
[07:37] <nsnzero> export PATH=$PATH:/home/username/./local/bin:.  in your bashrc / zshrc lets you run file run ./local/bin
[07:41] <Kilos> lol
[07:46] <nsnzero> found some nice tutorials on www.codecoffee.com for linux noobs
[08:04] <andrewlsd> morning nsnzero Kilos inetpro chesedo theblazehen
[08:04] <andrewlsd> Maaz: tell Langjan Hello from andrewlsd
[08:04] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Got it, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[08:04] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd 
[08:04] <andrewlsd> \o
[08:04] <Kilos> o/
[08:05] <andrewlsd> Anyone here using KDE Neon?
[08:05] <andrewlsd> (Ubuntu + _latest_ KDE )
[08:09] <chesedo> hi Kilos and andrewlsd
[08:10] <andrewlsd> \o
[08:11] <Kilos> hi  chesedo 
[08:12] <Kilos> oh andrewlsd is that what comes after plasma stuffs
[08:12] <chesedo> nsnzero: for emergencies you can also use '/bin/sleep 30m'
[08:12] <Kilos> im on 16.04 kde
[08:12] <andrewlsd> Kilos: KDE neon is Ubuntu 16.04 + Latest KDE. as opposed to Kubuntu, which is LTS plus an older KDE.
[08:13] <Kilos> working ok here apart from few niggles
[08:13] <Kilos> oh
[08:13] <nsnzero> andrewlsd: the neon build doesnt support kde pim - tried it - needed kmail and kontacts
[08:13] <andrewlsd> nothing wrong with Kubuntu. I'm just thinking of installing Neon...
[08:13] <andrewlsd> Thanks nsnzero
[08:14] <andrewlsd> exactly the feedback I need.
[08:14] <Kilos> when i boot up i have to manuall go to settings and tell the touchpad i have a mouse plugged in every time
[08:14] <nsnzero> you will get plasma 5.9 -> i am jealous 
[08:14]  * andrewlsd does not use a mouse :-P
[08:14] <andrewlsd> OT: yesterday I tried out Oculus Rift at my neighbour.
[08:14] <andrewlsd> Pretty impressive.
[08:15] <Kilos> doing settings used  to remember before but 16.04 doesnt make it work auto
[08:15] <nsnzero> kilos you can set the touchpad to diasble automaticaaly when mouse is plugged in
[08:16] <Kilos> touchpad gets in the way and i end up typing a sentence with the end at the beginning 
[08:16] <Kilos> fingers not accurate enoughj
[08:16] <Kilos> it doesnt want to nsnzero 
[08:16] <Kilos> drives me nuts
[08:16] <Kilos> i go look again
[08:17] <nsnzero> Kilos: check the touchpad advanced settings -> enable/disable
[08:18] <Kilos> lemme see
[08:19] <nsnzero> hp laptops have a small dimple near the touchpad - pressing it twice also disables the touchpad
[08:19] <Kilos> no advanced in touchpad
[08:22] <nsnzero> ok on the top tabs in the touchpad settings menu - do you see enable/disable tab ?
[08:27] <Squirm_> Oh oh
[08:27] <Squirm_> Look who has arrived!
[08:28] <Kilos> hi Squirm_ 
[08:30] <Squirm_> Hi Kilos
[08:31] <Kilos> yes advanced is there in the keyboard tab
[08:32] <andrewlsd> Hi Squirm_
[08:32] <andrewlsd> and Squirm
[08:33] <Kilos> hehe
[08:33]  * andrewlsd thinks there must be a command that can be run at login to disable the touchpad.
[08:33] <Kilos> it should detect it automatically
[08:33] <Kilos> 14.04 had no hassle
[08:34] <Kilos> but thats the only thing bugging me otherwise all good
[08:34] <andrewlsd> This askubuntu page might help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/65951/how-to-disable-the-touchpad
[08:36] <andrewlsd> TIL the usage of `-o` with grep.
[08:48] <Kilos> i go see
[08:54] <Kilos> ai! scripts 
[08:54] <Kilos> not today
[08:56] <andrewlsd> ;-(
[08:58] <inetpro> wb Squirm_
[09:37] <theblazehen> morning andrewlsd, all
[09:37] <theblazehen> nsnzero learn linux the hard way seems nice too
[09:38] <theblazehen> andrewlsd /me is running 17.04 with kde
[09:42] <nsnzero> theblazehen: i am learning linux the hardest way - trial and error 
[09:42] <theblazehen> andrewlsd currently on plasma 5.9.0, but upgrading now
[09:43] <theblazehen> nsnzero the best :) Was referring to https://web.archive.org/web/20130926213426/http://nixsrv.com/llthw though
[09:44] <theblazehen> also man [1-8] intro
[09:45] <nsnzero> theblazehen: : good link - wating for my browser to boot into bash ...
[09:46] <theblazehen> nsnzero it's just www.bellard.org/jslinux/
[09:46] <theblazehen> htt://copy.sh/v86 is more impressive
[09:47] <theblazehen> http* ffs
[09:49] <nsnzero> there is windows 95 on there !!!
[09:52] <theblazehen> nsnzero /me once booted nyancat in dosbox in arch in browser (chrome) on lubuntu in browser (firefox) on arch on just plain kvm on physical hardware
[09:54] <theblazehen> The trick is to build from the top down, and just include the image in the one lower down. Eg, get dosbox in arch in browser working, then get that working with lubuntu on kvm, then in browser etc
[09:54] <theblazehen> PITA copying data
[09:55] <theblazehen> I can base64 decode stuff, and use xdotool type, but when the terminal would wrap lines then it would drop some key presses as it calculated the line wrap etc
[09:55] <theblazehen> Eventually got it booting in just 10 hours or so
[09:55] <theblazehen> all the way
[09:57] <nsnzero> you got too much time theblazehen 
[09:57]  * theblazehen wonders if I should just run my desktop on physical hardware though. Get segfaults in firefox along with errors in kvm logs
[09:57] <theblazehen> nsnzero Eh, most of it was just waiting
[09:57] <nsnzero> my system boots in 42 seconds and i feel thats long 
[09:58] <theblazehen> Heh. pc at work is a container, can reboot in around 1.7 seconds according to systemd-analyze
[09:58] <theblazehen> and thats many layers of nested qemu and in browser, no surprise it's slow
[10:00] <theblazehen> And can't just run desktop at home in a container :( Brother needs his pc running windows which means I need to use kvm
[10:01] <nsnzero> dual boot not an option ?
[10:01] <nsnzero> 1.5 seconds is how long i have to hold the power button before my pc switches on !
[10:01] <theblazehen> No
[10:01] <theblazehen> He's using it as a thin client basically
[10:02] <theblazehen> Steam in home streaming
[10:02] <theblazehen> Just my pc that physically has display connected
[10:03] <theblazehen> Faster for him to use steam in home streaming with my faster cpu than it is to run games locally on his pc with his gpu
[10:03] <theblazehen> I tried having multihead on his pc the other day... 2 steam instances, both for streaming with me trying to connect to one instance of steam on his
[10:03] <theblazehen> So much easier on linux
[10:04] <theblazehen> You can even just use virtualgl on linux, no need for a physical monitor
[10:05] <theblazehen> Some people describe my pc setup as complicated...
[10:05] <theblazehen> I used to say that its really cool that I can reboot my hardware without my pc shutting down (live migrated my pc)
[10:07] <theblazehen> It was really cool
[10:07] <theblazehen> But now I can't. Now I'm in a vm I'm limited to the physical hardware :(
[10:08] <nsnzero> i cant even get my vm to go full screen 
[10:08] <theblazehen> nsnzero I'm not using vm console
[10:08] <theblazehen> Passing through my gpu
[10:08] <theblazehen> Tried spice before, can't do my 4 monitors right
[10:09] <theblazehen> And I didn't have a pc spare that could use my gpu with vnc
[10:09] <theblazehen> Used to use vnc when I was in a container before. Worked surprisingly well
[10:09] <theblazehen> Actually, I could try that again, now that I have 10 gig ethernet. Should be faster than 1 gig like I used to use
[10:11] <theblazehen> nsnzero http://imgur.com/y0LxTK0 physical hardware at home. There's a pc in those plastic racks that runs my pc and brothers pc
[10:13] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: TIL I have half a GB of icon files in /usr/share: `du -xhsc /usr/share/* | grep -E [0-9]{3}M`
[10:17] <theblazehen> andrewlsd ouch
[10:18] <nsnzero> clever idea - using vegetable racks - i seen bit coin miners using coke crates as cases 
[10:18] <theblazehen> nsnzero yeah, was mining cryptocurrency with them around 2013 / 2014 or so
[10:20] <nsnzero> i have a intel based g3258 server lying here doing nothing - going to try what you did
[10:20] <theblazehen> nsnzero you need VT-d for gpu / PCI-e passthrough though
[10:22] <theblazehen> nsnzero http://imgur.com/a/HyGFt <- at work
[10:23] <nsnzero> cpu supports VT-x 
[10:24] <theblazehen> Yeah, so just normal virtualization
[10:24] <theblazehen> Not IO virtualization
[10:24] <theblazehen> Do you have a dedicated gpu you use?
[10:24] <theblazehen> Or are you thinking about going the vnc method?
[10:24] <theblazehen> Actually, if you use containers it'll work well without VT-d
[10:25] <theblazehen> I'd recommend containers. Are you going to go thin client or physically attached?
[10:25] <nsnzero> i have a gigabyte n96tzl card - ndvidia but what i cant remember
[10:25] <theblazehen> I previously went thin client because I didn't have long enough cabled, but directly attached is what I do at work, works really well
[10:26] <theblazehen> What kind of specs does the server have?
[10:27] <theblazehen> https://linx.li/uqrf6nii.txt my specs
[10:28] <nsnzero> dual core pentium G3258 @ 3.2GHz 16G Ram - 4T HDD - i will have to open it to see the pci-e slots its got dual ethernet ports 
[10:29] <theblazehen> Cool. But yeah, if you go with containers you don't need anything special regarding VT-d, should "just work"
[10:30] <theblazehen> Pass through the X socket / use X over tcp, and virtualgl for the rendering
[10:30] <theblazehen> Let me know when you want the configs for that, since it took a little while to get them running
[10:31] <nsnzero> will do it as soon as i get some free time to mess around 
[10:31] <theblazehen> Cool
[10:41] <nsnzero> going to but 25 new computers for the school - 97k - guess by next week i will have a couple extra spares to play around with 
[10:42] <nsnzero> i need to NAS for my media player - 4 externals making my dvd stand look untidy 
[10:45] <theblazehen> Nice. Yeah, /me is using old thin client for storage. 9x 1 TB HDD in raid 6 and 1x 256 GB SSD for cache
[10:46]  * theblazehen needs to consider ceph though
[10:46] <theblazehen> But then, storage will be limited by network
[10:46] <theblazehen> Unless I get a 10 gig switch
[10:46] <theblazehen> Right now it's just with a crossover cable
[10:48] <theblazehen> Although I can still only get around 3.5 gbit sequential read with it
[10:50] <theblazehen> nsnzero are those windows PCs?
[11:36] <nsnzero> yes - windows and office are required by the school syllabus 
[11:37] <theblazehen> Cool. What do you use for config management and stuff there?
[11:39] <nsnzero> i dont administer those pc's - they arent connected to the admin network 
[11:42] <nsnzero> only 3 linux machines in the school my computers and the ubuntu server
[15:30] <Kilos> anyone know what this is http://pasteboard.co/z4zSocn72.jpg
[15:30] <Kilos> inetpro hyou look as well
[15:31] <Kilos> and paddatrapper 
[15:31] <Kilos> Maaz tell langjan http://pasteboard.co/z4zSocn72.jpg
[15:31] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[15:35] <Kilos> have you ever seen one like this you youngsters
[15:35] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/z4FxyKJ4D.jpg
[15:36] <Kilos> that one is older than me
[16:00] <chesedo> dit is 'n bobejaan spenner oom Kilos
[16:00] <chesedo> ... ken nie die engelse term nie
[16:00] <Kilos> ja maar sien jy die groote daarvan
[16:00] <Kilos> monkey wrench
[16:01] <chesedo> ooh nou sien ek...
[16:01] <Kilos> lol
[16:01] <Kilos> kom uit my pa se gereedskap trommel
[16:02] <chesedo> en die onderste 'gryp' is ook beweegbaar
[16:02] <chesedo> ... of so lyk dit
[16:02] <Kilos> ja mooi klein ding maar my seun het die ding nou gebreek deaur te groot goed te probeer los maak
[16:06] <chesedo> i was looking into new razors a while ago, then wanted to get a safety razor or a razor knife...
[16:06] <chesedo> the pictures of safety razors looked familiar... and my dad could confirm that we have one that he got from his dad
[16:06] <chesedo> turns out that it was thrown away in the last year... left me quite disappointed as the thought of a inheritance item seemed really exciting
[16:11] <Kilos> i have one somewhere, those the barbers used to use, you gotta be an expert with it or you can cut your own throat off
[16:12] <Kilos> its that blade that folds into a handle and you sharpen on a leather strop i think it was called
[16:12] <chesedo> yip that's the one...
[16:13] <Kilos> but i have a kershaw biltong knife sharpened enough to shave with as well
[16:13] <Kilos> hehe
[16:13] <chesedo> one also practise before hand on a baloon or so... and use slow and smooth strokes
[16:14] <Kilos> haha i wont bring that near my face , its like a doctos scalpel, cuts flesh like a knife through warm butter
[16:15] <Kilos> and my boet used to shave with one without even using a mirror
[16:15] <Kilos> i actually gave him three
[16:15] <Kilos> you gotta get the angle 100%
[16:16] <Kilos> or wipe up lotsa blood
[16:16] <Kilos> so chesedo what has happened at last meetings ive missed
[16:17] <chesedo> oh boy, i cannot remember
[16:17] <Kilos> sorry for missing them but the 9 hour time diffs from aus was too much for a ballie
[16:17] <chesedo> Maaz: last meeting
[16:17] <Maaz> chesedo: *blink*
[16:17] <Kilos> as long as nothing major was missed then np
[16:18] <chesedo> Kilos: we understood
[16:18] <Kilos> thanks
[16:19] <chesedo> besides you are more fun here during the day, having to sleep just to make a meeting 
[16:19] <chesedo> in short there are a lot of events coming up...
[16:20] <chesedo> like GLUG may have a party for its 10th birthday
[16:20] <chesedo> two new guys also learned to chair (andrewlsd and paddatrapper)
[16:21] <chesedo> kelulu88 is also interested in chairing but missed the last one
[16:21] <Kilos> oh are they still alive
[16:21] <Kilos> great
[16:22] <chesedo> that reminds... tareq88 was looking for ubuntu membership (which we track in the meeting)... do you have any updates on it?
[16:22] <Kilos> ty for carrying us till new chairs showed up
[16:22] <chesedo> np
[16:22]  * chesedo also still happy to chair anytime
[16:22] <Kilos> ill ask the membership board
[16:23] <chesedo> Kilos: don't you have contact with tareq
[16:23] <chesedo> ?
[16:23] <Kilos> i dont know
[16:23] <Kilos> memory getting worse
[16:24] <Kilos> name doesnt wring a bell at all
[16:24] <Kilos> ring
[16:24] <Kilos> ai! even spelling got worse
[16:24] <chesedo> from bangladish or india or somewhere there
[16:24] <Kilos> oh
[16:25] <Kilos> if he comes here tell him to ping me please
[16:25] <Kilos> i dont see him in those channels atm
[16:25] <chesedo> no, we have not heard of him since. so thought that you had contact with him...
[16:25] <Kilos> ill ask pavlushka
[16:26] <chesedo> Maaz: last minutes
[16:26] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-01-24-18-30-31.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-01-24-18-30-31.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-01-24-18-30-31.html
[16:26] <chesedo> found them ^^^
[16:26] <Kilos> cool ty
[16:26] <Kilos> why didnt the pro attend
[16:27] <chesedo> oh, what happened to our reverification ?
[16:27] <Kilos> dont ever let him get away with anything
[16:27] <chesedo> Kilos: give me a minute (possible more) to think of a good excuse
[16:27] <Kilos> no further news on that , i think that team is having hassles
[16:27] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:28] <Kilos> you gotta remember if you give a van der merwe your pinkie he will take your whole arm soon so you gotta keep a tight reign on them
[16:28]  * Kilos hides
[16:28] <chesedo> lol
[16:33] <Kilos> actually i think my pro is struggling to keep up with everything, he is old you know
[16:33] <Kilos> you youngsters should start taking over more
[16:34] <Kilos> and crash kid left the usa and gone to the uk now
[16:34] <chesedo> sounds like he is counted amongst the youngsters
[16:35] <Kilos> hehe
[16:35] <Kilos> he is a stalward fellow
[16:35] <chesedo> at least frogboots is another youngster that is active
[16:35] <Kilos> yes im happy bout you guys hanging in there , ty
[16:36]  * chesedo now just have to get blaze too
[16:37] <Kilos> theblazehen we talking bout you
[16:37] <chesedo> happy and starry is also young as i understand, but from europe as it seems
[16:37] <chesedo> and there is jerit too
[16:38] <Kilos> blaze was in pts wasnt he?
[16:38] <chesedo> yes we met at SFD 2015
[16:39] <Kilos> so what you mean from europe then?
[16:39] <chesedo> they are both in europe right?
[16:39] <Kilos> who?
[16:40] <chesedo> smile and night
[16:40] <Kilos> smile is in belgium
[16:40] <Kilos> who is night
[16:40] <Kilos> i cant remember him saying much
[16:40] <Kilos> night ping
[16:41] <Kilos> maybe its daytime there so hell be on later
[16:41] <chesedo> night time
[16:42] <Kilos> yeah maybe he becones day when the sun is shining
[16:42] <Kilos> becomes
[16:42] <Kilos> or vice versa
[16:43] <chesedo> oh lol
[16:43] <Kilos> hehe
[16:44] <chesedo> clever  that one
[16:44] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:45] <Kilos> Maaz tell langjan i got those vit c tabs
[16:45] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay, I'll tell Langjan on freenode
[16:45] <Kilos> R150 for rich peeps
[16:49]  * paddatrapper feels his ears tingling
[16:49] <Kilos> hee hee
[16:49] <Kilos> hi there frogboots
[16:50] <Kilos> ty for chairing
[16:50] <Kilos> i see pro di attend
[16:50] <Kilos> did
[16:50] <paddatrapper> Hey Kilos. Anytime 
[16:51] <Kilos> nee man yanks say hey
[16:51] <Kilos> hi much more sophisticated
[16:51] <Kilos> you watch too many movies
[16:52] <paddatrapper> Môre oom is the most sophisticated of them all
[16:52] <paddatrapper> Hehe
[16:56] <chesedo> lol
[16:56] <Kilos> yip
[16:56] <Kilos> amazing the power of brainwashing movies have
[16:57] <Kilos> the whole world says hey
[16:57] <Kilos> sickening'hey bro
[16:57] <Kilos> yuck
[17:20] <smile> Kilos: indeed :)
[17:20] <smile> I'm in Belgium
[17:20] <Kilos> hehe
[17:21] <Kilos> but you from netherlands smile ?
[17:21] <smile> Kilos: no *angry face*
[17:21] <smile> :p
[17:21] <Kilos> oh are you belgium through and throough
[17:21] <smile> yeah
[17:21] <smile> :D
[17:22] <Kilos> cool i wont forget again'
[17:22] <smile> but maybe I'm Flemish, Kilos ;)
[17:22] <Kilos> maybe its because you do thatwiki stuff
[17:22] <Kilos> what you mean maybe
[17:22] <smile> yeah, nl.wikipedia.org is the "language version", not the Wikipedia for the Netherlands
[17:22] <Kilos> you dunno what you are?
[17:23] <Kilos> aha
[17:23] <smile> Kilos: nationality is Belgium, identity is Flemish? :p 
[17:23] <Kilos> ok
[17:23] <smile> I hardly ever visit the other side of the country
[17:23] <smile> :p
[17:23] <Kilos> no nice girls there?
[17:23] <smile> sure, but they speak French :o 
[17:24] <Kilos> haha thats the language of love
[17:24] <Kilos> so they say
[17:24] <Kilos> i actually had some dealings with ubuntu france once
[17:25] <Kilos> forget why, to fix some loco or something
[17:25] <Kilos> and melodie is from france
[17:43] <chesedo> smile: do you also speak flemish?
[17:55] <smile> chesedo: sure, it's Belgian-Dutch :p
[17:55] <smile> just like you speak South African-English :P 
[17:59] <nsnzero> evening all
[18:12] <chesedo> from my understanding it is the closest thing to afrikaans... even closer than netherlands
[18:13] <chesedo> evening nsnzero
[18:14]  * chesedo actually speaks american english since he was homeschooled on a american system (for the most parts)
[18:14] <nsnzero> hi chesedo 
[18:14] <Kilos> ai!
[18:14] <Kilos> thats where the hey comes from
[18:14] <nsnzero> hi Kilos 
[18:14] <Kilos> poor kid
[18:14] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[18:15] <chesedo> it kind of bit me in the butt with my matric as i most propably used the wrong spelling for a lot of words
[18:15] <chesedo> hey that aint nice Kilos :P
[18:16] <Kilos> sorry
[18:16] <Kilos> lol
[18:16] <Kilos> thats the correct place to use hey
[18:16] <Kilos> not hey as hello
[18:17] <chesedo> it is like people using loads for a lot
[18:17] <Kilos> when you in a crowded place shout hey and watch everyone spin around and look guilty
[18:17] <Kilos> then you sing you got to hide your love away and they all look sheepish
[18:17] <chesedo> i would always try to dare them to say, "that is a lot of load for..."
[18:18] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <smile> chesedo: yeah :) indeed
[18:20] <smile> (late reaction :P )
[18:20] <smile> ek hêt stiekem met jou gedans, Kilos :P
[18:21] <Kilos> stiekem?
[18:22] <smile> geheim. :p 
[18:25] <smile> Kilos: do you know that? :p
[18:25] <chesedo> skelm
[18:26]  * chesedo thinks that sounds familiar
[18:28] <smile> geniep, indeed :p
[18:30] <paddatrapper> chesedo: written Flemish is like Afrikaans. I am still unable to understand it spoken, even though I can speak both Afrikaans and Dutch 
[18:30] <smile> korrek :) 
[18:32] <nsnzero> goeie nag almal
[18:32] <paddatrapper> Languages are interesting things. Wish I had the time and the brain to learn more... 
[18:34] <smile> nag? :p het is 19:34 XD
[18:34] <smile> you need only a handful of languages :) 
[18:35] <smile> my French isn't as good as it used to be
[18:35] <smile> A friend from Sweden has learned Dutch :)
[18:35] <smile> he's pretty good at it
[18:36] <smile> we can really have conversations :)
[18:37] <paddatrapper> Nice. I guess I just feel I should be able to communicate in all three of the major languages in CT (English, Afrikaans and isiXhosa) 
[18:39] <paddatrapper> En je bent een uur agter we :p
[18:42] <chesedo> paddatrapper: i've used DuoLingo to learn new languages in the past
[18:44] <paddatrapper> chesedo: I've tried (was initially how I learnt Dutch), but I find I get distracted, busy, etc and don't go on regularly. I probably should set a reminder or something 
[18:44] <paddatrapper> My list of things I'd like to do is always way bigger than the list of things I can ever get done 
[18:45] <chesedo> paddatrapper: same here... i started on hebrews and a while ago netherlands with my brother, but also got distracted
[18:46] <chesedo> well actually studies keeping me busy more than i like
[18:47] <paddatrapper> chesedo: yeah. Dutch I only learned because I was I was living there, so it was constantly in my face. Studies will definitely be crazy when they finally start again! 
[18:47]  * chesedo is almost half way with the semester
[18:48] <chesedo> will be done mostly by the end of march
[18:48] <paddatrapper> We start end of March! 
[18:48] <paddatrapper> Well mid-March 
[18:50] <chesedo> fly used to say that you are laid back over there :P
[18:50]  * chesedo has first assignments due next week
[18:54] <Langjan> Hi guys, Kilos how are you doing?
[18:54] <Langjan> Hi inetpro 
[18:55] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[18:55] <paddatrapper> We're very laid back, when you write all your exams in December and don't differ anything to Jan/Feb. Don't envy those who have just finished their exams 
[18:55] <paddatrapper> Hi Langjan
[18:55] <Langjan> Hi paddatrapper 
[18:55] <Kilos> im quite good ty
[18:55] <paddatrapper> Kilos: ^ see I can use hi correctly :) 
[18:56] <Kilos> had a tough morning but now lekker
[18:56] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:56] <Kilos> well done
[18:56] <Langjan> Good
[18:57] <Kilos> how are you and mommy Langjan 
[18:57] <Kilos> and what did you break?
[18:57] <Kilos> hee hee hee
[18:57] <Langjan> Kilos,  we are fine thks 
[18:58] <Langjan> Still looking for something to break...lmga!
[18:58] <Kilos> lol
[18:58] <Kilos> wbb just gonna eat something and ake meds
[18:58] <Kilos> take
[18:59] <Langjan> OK eet lekker.  I have scroll back to previous sessions ticked on hexchat but do not see the sessions? 
[18:59] <chesedo> goedenacht or good night all
[18:59] <Langjan> G'night chesedo 
[19:00] <chesedo> Kilos: why you eating so late:P
[19:00] <Langjan> inetpro, sorry about that site, it should be open now, I checked in a few minutes ago 
[19:01] <Langjan> chesedo,  he has to eat with meds otherwise they eat his stomache
[19:02] <Langjan> Meds are a delicate knife-edge, I hate the stuff
[19:03] <Kilos> forgot chesedo ate home grown watermelo earlier so wasnt hungry
[19:04] <Kilos> yeah but
[19:04] <Langjan> Watermelon does not stop my hunger, only makes me P
[19:04] <Kilos> atm till the vitc starts working they keeping me alive'
[19:04] <Kilos> haha
[19:05] <Kilos> pills to lower bp and slow pulse down
[19:05] <Kilos> and open arteries
[19:05] <Kilos> and
[19:05] <Kilos> um
[19:05] <Langjan> You can take 1 000 mg/day vit C
[19:05] <Kilos> make it so attacks arent fatal etc etc
[19:05] <Langjan> Or Foodstate 100 mg gives better result
[19:05] <Kilos> lemme see what i got
[19:07] <Kilos> 250mg for R150 cant afford more than that
[19:07] <Kilos> i hear there is a stuffup coming with next months pension as well
[19:08] <Kilos> the company that organises the payouts is leaving or something and they havent got a replacement in place yet
[19:08] <Kilos> more is nog n dag attitude
[19:09] <Langjan> Foodstate is R166 for 30x200 mg, one 200 mg gives you utilised equivalent to 3 000 mg synthetic
[19:10] <Kilos> Langjan i forwarded the mail about it to you
[19:10] <Kilos> oh ian said R150
[19:10] <Langjan> when did you send mail?
[19:11] <Kilos> now
[19:11] <Langjan> I saw your bobbejaan via Maaz 
[19:12] <Kilos> ya this is foodstate and shows only 250 mg vit c and 80 mg bioflavonoids
[19:12] <Kilos> lekker small one hey
[19:13] <Langjan> OK thats not the Sportron brand but same technology, excellent! Take 2 per day (double dose) for a week or so
[19:14] <Langjan> You not receiving your pension?
[19:15] <Langjan> Kilos, how do I activate scroll back to previous sessions on hexchat? Its ticked but does not show 
[19:16]  * pavlushka ahoy ZA
[19:16] <Kilos> ai!
[19:16] <Langjan> Ahoy pavlushka 
[19:16] <Kilos> i never had a prob i just turn the roller in the mouse and it works
[19:16] <Kilos> hi pavlushka 
[19:17] <Kilos> use a proper mouse Langjan 
[19:17] <Kilos> hehe
[19:17] <Kilos> one with a wheel between the buttons
[19:19] <Langjan> Mine is a male mouse, no buttons
[19:20] <Langjan> Xchat used to work fine, cant remember if I have seen Hexchat do it 
[19:22] <Kilos> ian asks for a decent multivit 
[19:22] <Kilos> you must know which one is best
[19:22] <Langjan> Best by far is Ultragard
[19:22] <Kilos> ty ill tell him
[19:23] <Langjan> He wont find it in Rustenburg though
[19:23] <Langjan> Does he go to Pretoria?
[19:23] <Langjan> Otherwise we can do overnight speed services
[19:24] <Kilos> not often , where in pta must he go
[19:24] <pavlushka> Hi and Hello Kilos , Langjan  :)
[19:24] <Kilos> he will go when a client there has scanner probs
[19:24] <Kilos> who is it from Langjan 
[19:24] <Kilos> you making me walk lots to front of house to tell him
[19:25] <Kilos> he got the vitc from dischem
[19:26] <Kilos> diskem
[19:26] <Langjan> Sorry there are depots in Rustenburg: http://www.ascendisdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Depots-and-Centres-4.pdf
[19:26] <Kilos> daai plek
[19:26] <Langjan> He must use my number, its 31127
[19:26] <Langjan> Depots are 10% mark-up over Pretoria prices
[19:27] <Langjan> Pretoria centre also indicated on pdf in link I sent
[19:29] <Langjan> He can either just buy on my number or register himself as a member under my number, its free but members get many extra benefits. 
[19:29] <Kilos> cool ty for that my friend
[19:30] <Langjan> Yes Dischem will sell the Foodstate brand but probably not Ultragard
[19:32] <Kilos> cool ty
[19:33] <Langjan> Let him check, prices will be R291,50 for 30 and R546 for 60 at the depot. Pretoria R265 and 496. 
[19:33] <Kilos> holy smoke
[19:33] <Kilos> we might do without them
[19:35] <Langjan> Its the best investment in your health that you can do. Will mail some info for you. If you compare with non-foodstate multivits you must multiply quantities by 10
[19:40] <Kilos> cool ty
[19:43] <Kilos> can you cc the mail to ian as well Langjan please
[19:43] <Kilos> ian@xsm.co.za
[19:43] <Kilos> shoulda done that in pm i spose
[19:45] <Langjan> Done Kilos 
[19:46] <Kilos> th my friend
[19:46] <Kilos> ty as well also too
[19:46] <Kilos> i dont need multivits just clean arteries
[19:46] <Langjan> My pleasure, now bedtime
[19:47] <Kilos> sleep tight and say hi to Juannita for me
[19:47] <Langjan> Vit C is excellent but we all need the multis
[19:47] <Langjan> Will do thks and regards to Ian and the girls when you chat
[19:47] <Kilos> just now you will be trying to sell me viagra
[19:47] <Langjan> Ouch! 
[19:47] <Kilos> ty will do
[19:47] <Kilos> lol
[19:47] <Kilos> joking man
[19:47] <Langjan> Lmga!
[19:48] <Kilos> gaan slaap toppie
[19:48] <Langjan>  You will let me join you in the heart ATTACK scenario
[19:48] <Kilos> lmga
[19:48] <Langjan> Slaap lekker Kilos dankie vir die chat 
[19:49] <Kilos> dankie vir die kuier
[19:49] <Langjan> my plesier
[19:49] <Kilos> visit and the info
[19:49] <Langjan> hope it helps
[19:49] <Kilos> yip me too
[19:49] <Langjan> dont be scared to overdose on vit C
[19:50] <Langjan> you cannot
[19:50] <Kilos> might still need to see a doc approved by OZ before going back
[19:50] <Kilos> costs will limit me
[19:50] <Langjan> In bowls we say take some grass and add it to weight
[19:51] <Langjan> lmga
[19:51] <Langjan> jy weet wat ek meen seuntjie
[19:51] <Langjan> lekker slaap
[20:35] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight