[00:01] <hugas> Hi. I just decided to update and quite strangely, it failed with a couple of errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24004098/
[00:01] <Bashing-om> ron____: Are you connecting via a router ? and can you ping the router ?
[00:01] <hugas> Can someone look into it? I am baffled. Apparently, the flashplugin couldn't be installed amongst other things
[00:01] <hugas> :/
[00:01] <hugas> im worried that something messy has happened
[00:02] <ron____> Bashing-om: Yes I am connecting through router. I have an ethernet going from my router to my PC. And no, It says Network is unreachable when I try to ping it
[00:02] <OerHeks> hugas, known issue, i look for the bugreport
[00:02] <pavlos> ron____, does 'dmesg | grep eth' show anything?
[00:02] <ron____> Bashing-om: It may help to know that this ethernet and router work with other computers
[00:02] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1647969
[00:03] <OerHeks> hugas, a manual fix is in the top story
[00:03] <ron____> pavlos: Yes. It shows quite a bit. Are you looking for anything in particular
[00:04] <pavlos> ron____, link up (maybe your interface is no longer eth0 but enp2s0 so you can grep for that
[00:04] <k1l_> hugas: getent passwd _apt  (to test if you have that user on your system)
[00:05] <Bashing-om> pavlos: ron____ Working with a 14.04 install :) desktop .
[00:05] <k1l_> if there is output, then you have it
[00:05] <hugas> OerHeks: where is the manual fix? i can't see it
[00:05] <hugas> k1l_, _apt:x:105:65534::/nonexistent:/bin/false is the output
[00:05] <pavlos> Bashing-om, ok
[00:05] <OerHeks> hugas, remove the ttf installer, wget http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb and install it manually
[00:05] <ron____> pavlos: The most recent message (bottom) says link up. Yeah. Like Bashing-om  mentioned, I don't have the enp
[00:05] <k1l_> hugas: then sudo chown -R _apt:root /var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/
[00:05] <k1l_> hugas: sudo rm /var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/*.FA‌​ILED
[00:05] <Bashing-om> pavlos: Be aware I have not seen the ubuntu GUI in a Long time :(
[00:06] <hugas> k1l_, rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/*.FA‌​ILED': No such file or directory
[00:06] <k1l_> hugas: ah ok. then reinstall the packages that made issues
[00:06] <k1l_> sudo apt install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer flashplugin-installer
[00:07] <hugas> OerHeks, k1l_: will installing ttf-mscorefonts-installer fix the flashplugin issue also?
[00:07] <Joel> thoughts on how to resolve this? https://gist.github.com/jjshoe/fb24ccc65f8894379d442b0c9d83bee7
[00:07] <hugas> k1l_: OerHeks is suggesting that it be installed manually, but should I go ahead and follow your advice?
[00:08] <k1l_> hugas: its both the same issue with symptoms on both packages since the both need to load stuff from somewhere else. reinstall them to see if that helped now
[00:09] <WeiJunLi> There's a way to fix "Alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell" busybox initramfs?
[00:11] <hugas> k1l_: ok well i think it worked, at first i got an error with the ttf-mscorefonts-installer but as flashplugin was installed, it disappeared
[00:11] <pavlos> ron____, so link is up, does ifconfig give you an ip?
[00:13] <hugas> k1l_: is it OK? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24004152/
[00:14] <k1l_> ok, looks like the ttf package got 2 problems here. i suggest loading the debian package as mentioned on the bugreport.
[00:15] <hugas> k1l_: will this error come up in the next upgrade?
[00:15] <k1l_> hugas: no
[00:15] <k1l_> hugas: wget http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb
[00:15] <k1l_> then sudo dpkg -i ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb
[00:16] <hugas> k1l_: OK it's working but i see that it's downloading a lot of .exe's, i uninstalled wine completely from my system some days ago. is this a concern?
[00:17] <hugas> i apologize for my silly questions, ive been using ubuntu since about a year only
[00:17] <ron____> pavlos: no ip off ifconfig for eth0
[00:17] <k1l_> it needs to get the fonts from there
[00:17] <hugas> k1l_: ok well everything was installed. is there something else to check now?
[00:17] <k1l_> hugas: no. should be good now
[00:18] <hugas> thank you very much, i appreciate it greatly
[00:18] <WeiJunLi> There's a way to fix "Alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell" busybox initramfs?
[00:20] <Bashing-om> ron____: ' cat /etc/network/interfaces ' same same as : http://termbin.com/fcwb ?
[00:20] <ron____> Bashing-om: Exact same
[00:22] <pavlos> ron____, grep dhclient /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:22] <Bashing-om> ron____: Good .. ok .. are you good inhouse ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' ?
[00:23] <ron____> Bashing-om: That works fine. I get ping with no packet loss
[00:23] <ron____> pavlos: what does the second command do? I get nc: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known
[00:24] <pavlos> ron____, like a pastebin
[00:25] <bent_> Have not used IRC in over ten years or more
[00:25] <Bashing-om> ron____: pavlos In my thought process next up is ' cat /etc/resolv.conf ' see who is handeling DNS .
[00:26] <ron____> pavlos: Gotcha. Sorry I'm getting that error with nc, Bashing-om, the file is empty
[00:26] <Bashing-om> bent_: Welcome to ubuntu support . irc has not changed :)
[00:26] <pavlos> Bashing-om, ron____ correct ... I wanted to see if there is communication from dhclient
[00:29] <excelsio1a> hi! anyone using virtualbox to run VMs on Ubuntu 16.04?
[00:29] <k1l_> some do
[00:29] <excelsio1a> I can't get a VM to run.
[00:30] <bent_> depends on the base architecture
[00:30] <k1l_> excelsio1a: what is the error?
[00:30] <bent_> I have tried VMs and ran into issues also
[00:30] <excelsio1a> kernal driver showing not installed, and when I try to sudo modprobe vboxdrv it's not signed, so it refuses to install
[00:31] <k1l_> excelsio1a: is the dkms virtualbox package installed?
[00:31] <excelsio1a> I think so
[00:31] <bent_> For me it was running a VM that asked for an architecture that was not supported
[00:32] <Bashing-om> ron____: pavlos :; " Bashing-om, the file is empty ' // dnsmasq failing ? dare we give it a namesserver ?
[00:32] <k1l_> excelsio1a: "apt policy virtualbox virtualbox-dkms | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the link here
[00:32] <pavlos> ron____, /etc/resolv.conf should have one line, nameserver 127.0.1.1
[00:33] <ron____> pavlos: Bashing-om: For some reason it doesn't have that. Huh. I can add it in
[00:33] <excelsio1a> pastebinit ok?
[00:33] <k1l_> excelsio1a: it shows an url, show that here
[00:33] <excelsio1a> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24004249/
[00:34] <bent_> Trying out Ubuntu Mate on a RPI3
[00:34] <k1l_> excelsio1a: "sudo modprobe vboxdrv" on a pastebin please
[00:34] <bent_> It is working better than expected...
[00:34] <bent_> Temp at 38.1
[00:35] <excelsio1a> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Required key not available
[00:35] <WeiJunLi> There's a way to fix "Alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell" busybox initramfs?
[00:35] <WeiJunLi> anyone can tell me if this has solution?
[00:35] <uxfi> hi WeiJunLi
[00:35] <ron____> pavlos: Bashing-om: I added "nameserver 127.0.1.1" to resolv.conf then restarted my network, but it still doesn't connect
[00:35] <excelsio1a> wouldn't let me pipe from stderr...
[00:35] <WeiJunLi> uxfi: heello
[00:36] <excelsio1a> (maybe I could have but I forgot how)
[00:36] <k1l_> excelsio1a: looks like you have secureboot enabled and thats not a signed module
[00:36] <WeiJunLi> seems like my intrid doesnt  have the drives to see my drives
[00:37] <Bashing-om> ron____: Well, not having a DNS will not effect us reaching the router . But something somehwere in dnsmasq is not completing . Lemme ponder a bit .
[00:38] <pavlos> ron____, can you install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:38] <excelsio1a> k1l_: surely I can run without disabling secureboot?
[00:38] <excelsio1a> Is ubuntu trying to make me install a rootkit?
[00:38] <ron____> pavlos: Unfortunately, no. I don't have internet on this machine to install it
[00:38] <WeiJunLi> uxfi can u  help with my issue
[00:38] <k1l_> excelsio1a: what is uname -a?
[00:39] <pavlos> ron____, sorry, my mistake
[00:39] <uxfi> WeiJunLi; what is wrong?
[00:39] <excelsio1a> Linux excelsiora-ThinkPad-Yoga-460 4.4.0-62-generic #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 18 14:10:15 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:39] <WeiJunLi> uxfi: I have a vm running a self compiled kernel and when i boot it otuput  "Alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell"  and goes straight to busybox initramfs
[00:40] <pavlos> ron____, try, ps -ef | grep dns (should be one line, you can paste it here
[00:40] <ron____> pavlos: zach 3220 2388 0 18:40 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto dns
[00:41] <k1l_> excelsio1a: no. thats not a rootkit.
[00:41] <k1l_> excelsio1a: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/760671/could-not-load-vboxdrv-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-and-i-want-to-keep-secur  for your options
[00:41] <pavlos> ron____, so dnsmasq is not running
[00:41] <excelsio1a> k1l_: thank you so much!
[00:42] <ron____> pavlos: Which file is that in again?
[00:42] <uxfi> WeiJunLi;  so it means that it isnt mounting somethign correctly I assume
[00:42] <WeiJunLi> uxfi: correct
[00:42] <uxfi> Are you using a external HD with the Vm ?
[00:42] <pavlos> ron____, NetworkManager should have started it
[00:42] <WeiJunLi> uxfi: no
[00:42] <ron____> pavlos:  I think I turned that off based on an internet suggestion to access a sign in page
[00:42] <excelsio1a> k1l_: I was working off of his bash script, and I lost the answer... and I figured ubuntu would be smart enough that I shouldn't have to do his thing, but oh well.
[00:42] <uxfi> WeiJunLi; hmm did it start doing this now or this is new behavior?
[00:43] <pavlos> ron____, the line looks like nobody    1986   866  0 Feb06 ?        00:00:02 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --no-resolv --keep-in-foreground --no-hosts --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/run/sendsigs.omit.d/network-manager.dnsmasq.pid --listen-address=127.0.1.1 --conf-file=/var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf --cache-size=0 --proxy-dnssec --enable-dbus=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.dnsmasq --conf-dir=/etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
[00:43] <WeiJunLi> uxfi: this is a self compiled kernel
[00:43] <excelsio1a> gotta run, thanks again, cheers!
[00:43] <uxfi> WeiJunLi; perhaps thats the reason
[00:43] <ron____> pavlos: Maybe not. It says dns=dnsmasq in NetworkManager.conf
[00:43] <k1l_> excelsio1a: the issue is, that this is closed software and they dont ship a signed module, aiui
[00:43] <ron____> pavlos: What is that line for?
[00:44] <waddupyoyowanger> this kernel blows!
[00:44] <waddupyoyowanger> boo
[00:44] <waddupyoyowanger> boooooooooo!
[00:44] <bazhang> waddupyoyowanger, stop that
[00:44] <pavlos> ron____, it is a process (dnsmasq) that handles the connection based on NetworkManager
[00:44] <excelsio1a> wait, what's closed, virtualbox?
[00:45] <ron____> pavlos:  O. Hm.... any ideas on how to start that?
[00:45] <pavlos> ron____, /etc/hosts has 2 lines 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 <yourhostname?
[00:45] <pavlos> ron____, /etc/hosts has 2 lines 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 <yourhostname>
[00:46] <pavlos> ron____, which should match your /etc/hostname
[00:46] <k1l_> excelsio1a: sorry yes, i was confused with vmware. vbox is opensource and only the additional extensionspack is closed
[00:46] <ron____> pavlos: It has one line. And there is no ip address on that line. It is only the host name
[00:47] <excelsio1a> ok, well I'm on laptop, I'll check the log later iftheres an explanation...
[00:47] <pavlos> ron____, /etc/hostname has one word, your hostname
[00:48] <pavlos> ron____, so if you type nc, you get error?
[00:48] <oggman> I have a question on how secure a program called "Cryptocat" is.  Is this the right channel for this or no.  If no, could I be directed to a more appropriate channel for this.
[00:50] <ron____> pavlos: yest, /etc/hostname only has my hostname. nc outputs "This is nc from the netcat-openbsd package. An alternative nc is available in the netcat-traditional package. Usage....
[00:50] <pavlos> ron____, so you have nc hence if your type ls | nc termbin.com 9999 it should give you a url
[00:51] <ron____> pavlos:  I get "nc: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known". Should I add my localhost name to /etc/hostname?
[00:52] <pavlos> ron____, your hostname should be on /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[00:53] <wedgie> sounds like he can't look up termbin.com. Which makes sense given that he's asking about DNS things
[00:54] <ron____> pavlos: O, I'm sorry. I misspoke then. /etc/hosts has those two lines 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 hostname. Then it has # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts. Then a few lines. Sorry, long day
[00:54] <pavlos> wedgie, you;re right
[00:55] <ron____> wedgie: Yeah. Problem is that unless I put in my IPv4 settings, I can't connect to my router. And if I do put in those settings manually, I still get no response from pinging the router
[00:55] <pavlos> ron____, try sudo dhclient -r then sudo dhclient eth0
[00:55] <akinode> Hey, can anyone tell me what the difference between dbg and i386 packages are?
[00:56] <akinode> And which one do I need? I'm running Ubuntu 16.4
[00:56] <nacc> akinode: um, dbg packges include debug symbols and i386 are for 32-bit?
[00:56] <nacc> akinode: totally unrelated
[00:56] <akinode> nacc oh okay
[00:56] <lost_ubuntu> does anyone no how to change the hostname in /etc/hosts if you Do NOT have sudo or superuser access/
[00:57] <nacc> akinode: as to which you need, it completely depends
[00:57] <akinode> nacc what exactly do you mean by debug symbols?
[00:57] <oggman> not the right channel.  thanks anyway.
[00:57] <nacc> lost_ubuntu: you won't be able to, and I can't think of a good reason to allow it.
[00:57] <akinode> nacc like for python packages like yaml you can choose between i386 and dbg, so I wasnt entirely sure
[00:57] <nacc> akinode: something like: https://www.tutorialspoint.com/gnu_debugger/gdb_debugging_symbols.htm
[00:57] <lost_ubuntu> i am trying to get a webserver to work with out having to type the ip address
[00:58] <ron____> pavlos: should sudo dhclient eth0 still be running?
[00:58] <nacc> lost_ubuntu: that's not anything to do with your server's hostname, necessarily, that's a DNS thing
[00:58] <lost_ubuntu> i can't sudo, admin did not give me privelge
[00:58] <pavlos> ron____, yes one line, root      1383   866  0 Feb06 ?        00:00:01 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action -pf /run/sendsigs.omit.d/network-manager.dhclient-eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-db056cb6-f212-408c-8f53-3255a809ee15-eth0.lease -cf /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-eth0.conf eth0
[00:58] <nacc> akinode: did you install 32-bit? what do you mean choose between? give a concrete example, ideally in a pastebin
[00:59] <ron____> pavlos: Nothing has returned yet
[00:59] <akinode> nacc I mean when I search yaml in aptitude, I only get these two options
[00:59] <nacc> akinode: i'm not at your comptuer, please use a pastebin and provide command and output
[00:59] <k1l_> akinode: are you on a 32bit ubuntu?
[01:00] <pavlos> ron____, running out of ideas ...
[01:00] <nacc> akinode: if you are on 32-bit ubuntu, then it's normal to see i386 packages of course
[01:00] <pavlos> ron____,  ps -ef | grep dhclient
[01:00] <akinode> nacc k1l_ no on 64 bit, that's why I wasn't sure which one to get
[01:00] <akinode> nacc k1l_ Ideally I'd just like to get the normal one but that doesnt seem to be there
[01:01] <k1l_> akinode: can you show the output of "apt policy python-yaml | nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:01] <ron____> pavlos: I've got 5 different lines on here. Any in particular I should look at?
[01:02] <akinode> k1l_ http://termbin.com/r0xe
[01:02] <Bashing-om> ron____: pavlos A thought . ' ls -al /etc/resolv.conf ' ; A broke symlink ?
[01:02] <pavlos> ron____,  5? you sohuld have 2, the /sbin/dhclient line and the grep command line
[01:02] <k1l_> akinode: that is the right one, i dont know where you see the 32bit ones
[01:03] <akinode> k1l_ What did you do there? I get 32 bit when i enter "aptitude search yaml", that's why I asked. I installed the one with the dbg suffix, was that ok?
[01:03] <ron____> pavlos: ps -ef |grep dhclient right? I have sudo dhclient eth0, dhclient eth0, /sbin/dhclient line, /sbin/dhclient-script, and the grep line
[01:04] <ron____> pavlos: Bashing-om: That looks like it's linked to ~/../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[01:04] <k1l_> akinode: i dont use aptitude. run "sudo apt install python-yaml" that will install the right one
[01:04] <pavlos> ron____,  lets kill all of them
[01:04] <Bashing-om> ron____: Good there too then .
[01:05] <ron____> pavlos: how do I kill them again?
[01:05] <akinode> k1l_ why not? Is there a big difference between using apt and aptitude? Also, how exactly are apt-get or pip related to that?
[01:05] <pavlos> ron____,  you can use killall name
[01:05] <ron____> pavlos: where name is dhclient?
[01:06] <pavlos> ron____,  yes ...
[01:06] <k1l_> akinode: aptitude uses some own libs to work with the repos. but it has massive issues with the multiarch ubuntu uses since some time. apt is the new command to group apt-get, apt-cache and others into one command.
[01:06] <pavlos> ron____,  sp ps -ef | grep dhclient should be nothing (except the grep result)
[01:07] <k1l_> akinode: pip is another thing. it doesnt use ubuntu repos. its like you load stuff from websites or compile it yourself.
[01:07] <nacc> akinode: and you almost certainly did not need the -dbg package
[01:08] <akinode> k1l_ Oh okay, thanks, I'll be using apt from now on then
[01:08] <ron____> pavlos: I don't have sp as a command,  but ps -ef |grep dhclient is now only those two lines
[01:08] <akinode> nacc yeah I was just confused because I couldnt find the regular one
[01:08] <pavlos> ron____,  sp was my typo, it was so
[01:09] <ron____> pavlos: so?
[01:09] <pavlos> ron____,  ps -ef | grep dhclient should have only the grp line else kill the others using kill PID
[01:09] <k1l_> akinode: apt search yaml python
[01:09] <akinode> nacc what's the exact use of debugging symbol tables anyways? Is that for people who want to work on the libraries themselves?
[01:10] <akinode> k1l_ ohh, that's very neat. Thanks!
[01:10] <nacc> akinode: for debugging
[01:10] <nacc> akinode: i mean, as the name implies
[01:10] <nacc> akinode: the base packages have removed the debugging symbols
[01:10] <ron____> pavlos: Yeah it was only the grep line, but then the other one started back up. I killed it again
[01:10] <akinode> nacc but if it's only for the developers of this library why is it available in a package manager like aptitude?
[01:11] <pavlos> ron____,  sudo dhclient -r then sudo dhclient eth0
[01:12] <k1l_> akinode: it doesnt harm
[01:12] <nacc> akinode: sorry, i'm not going to explain that, it feels like a nonsenical question
[01:12] <pavlos> ron____,  check with ps, you should have one line /sbin/dhclient ... (and the grep result)
[01:13] <ron____> pavlos: Ok. I will. I'm running this now. Hey, in my interfaces file shouldn't I have eth0 in there?
[01:13] <akinode> nacc ohh like debugging for people who work with that library you mean? And not for the people who created it? That was a stupid misunderstanding, I apologize
[01:13] <akinode> nacc I'm still rather new to all of this so I don't really know much
[01:14] <nacc> akinode: i'm not sure i understand the distinction -- debugging is debugging. That is, if you want valid backtraces from gdb, with symbols in them, you need the debug packages
[01:15] <pavlos> ron____,  no, because the NetworkManager should take care of this. I have a 14.04 looking at and making sure we have the same setup
[01:15] <akinode> nacc Yeah ok I got it, thanks :)
[01:16] <pavlos> ron____,  your router is probably 192.168.0.1 (or 1.1)
[01:17] <Bashing-om> pavlos: ron____ :: We to the point of seeing if we have a gateway route ?
[01:17] <ron____> pavlos: Gotcha. Well dhclient eth0 is still running atm, but yes. I have a 1.1
[01:17] <ron____> Bashing-om: Worth a shot hahaha I've been at this for awhile
[01:18] <pavlos> ron____, try route -n how many lines (2)?
[01:18] <Bashing-om> ron____: waiting for all other to settle out .  No gate way .. no can see the router .
[01:18] <ron____> pavlos: on ps grepping for dhclient I have 3 now, one is dhclient eth0. When running route -n, I have nothing
[01:19] <ron____> Bashing-om: I'm not to sure what that means
[01:19] <pavlos> ron____, Bashing-om I hope the router DOES offer dhcp ip's
[01:19] <k1l_> akinode: i dont know what you want to do with hdf5 so i dont know if you need the hdf5-tools or hdf5-helpers. but they are both offered from ubuntu
[01:19] <ron____> pavlos: Bashing-om, idk why it wouldn't I've run it no problems with many other devices
[01:20] <Bashing-om> pavlos: Have not seen any lately that does not hand out DGCP . ron____ what gateway listed ' ip route list ' ?
[01:20] <akinode> k1l_ the library I want to use has listed hdf5 as a dependency, but I can't find a package that's named just hdf5
[01:20] <pavlos> ron____, let restart network,  sudo service network-manager restart
[01:21] <k1l_> akinode: you can install the libhd5f-10 package if you only want the lib
[01:21] <pavlos> ron____, route -n should give you 2 lines, the first would point to 192.168.1.1 and has a HG, the 2nd line is just an IP with netmask and a U
[01:21] <akinode> k1l_ oh okay I will. Is it normal that libraries like that hve a lib before their names? also what does the f-10 mean?
[01:22] <pavlos> not having pastebin sucks :(
[01:22] <akinode> k1l_ I meant the -10
[01:22] <k1l_> yes, the lib packages are named lib...
[01:22] <ron____> Bashing-om: pavlos, yeah those are two differences then. route -n and ip route list have nothing
[01:23] <k1l_> and the -10 is the the version in the naming, when there are several versions available and there schould be several versions in the repos
[01:23] <pavlos> ron____, we agreed you dont have an IP hence you cannot ping the router
[01:24] <ron____> pavlos: Bashing-om, confirmed. No ip address
[01:26] <Bashing-om> ron____: pavlos :; Well we got to get that gateway assigned . restart the router ? See if it then talks to the operating system and hands out a IP ?
[01:26] <pavlos> ron____, dmesg | grep eth0 (no errors
[01:26] <ash_workz> so I was in here the other day asking about pgpool releases but I didn't remember the exact package name so I just searched for pgpool in the software center
[01:26] <pavlos> ron____, sure if you can restart the router, do it
[01:26] <ash_workz> the last time I was in here, I was complaining about how low the version was for ubuntu
[01:26] <ash_workz> !info pgpool2
[01:26] <allan_> Hi. I got a problem, My Ubuntu 16.04LTS with Gnome desktop does not shut down when I use the GUI button to shut down
[01:27] <pavlos> ron____, pull the power, 5 secs, plug in
[01:27] <ash_workz> oh wow, I guess it just got updated
[01:27] <ron____> pavlos: Bashing-om no errors on dmesg. I'll go restart the router. It's gonna disconnect me for a sec
[01:27] <ash_workz> I was gonna say, there are more recent versions in the software center
[01:27] <allan_> Just work if I execute "sudo shutdown" or "sudo reboot"
[01:28] <ash_workz> actually that still doesn't completely resolve my question; right now that says 3.5.3-1, but the software center lists 2 packages when I search for pgpool: postgresql95-pgpool2-35 and postgresql95-pgpool2-36
[01:28] <ash_workz> so... what's up with that?
[01:28] <k1l_> !info pgpool2 xenial | ash_workz
[01:29] <ash_workz> oh xenial
[01:29] <ron____> test
[01:29] <ash_workz> anyway, my question remains
[01:29] <ron____> pavlos: Bashing-om, I'm back
[01:29] <k1l_> ash_workz: what is the question?
[01:29] <Bashing-om> ron____: Back ! .. and we got a gateway assugned ?
[01:29] <pavlos> ron____, and ...
[01:29] <Bashing-om> assigned *
[01:29] <pavlos> ron____,   yeah
[01:30] <ash_workz> why does the software center populate postgresql95-pgpool2-35 and postgresql95-pgpool2-36 when I search for pgpool
[01:30] <ash_workz> ?
[01:30] <ash_workz> it doesn't specify that those are for a particular ubuntu distro
[01:30] <ash_workz> and it doesn't even come up with the latest for xenial
[01:31] <ash_workz> k1l_: ^
[01:31] <pavlos> ron____, no ip?
[01:31] <ron____> Bashing-om: pavlos nothing good unfortunately. whenb I grep mesg though link up appears many times in a row
[01:31] <ron____> no ip
[01:32] <k1l_> ash_workz: "sudo apt update ; apt search pgpool | nc termbin.com 9999" show the output please
[01:32] <ron____> pavlos: Bashing-om I have a link is not ready followed by link up followed by link becomes ready then link up, down, up, down, up, up...... When it says link becoms ready and link is not ready it's under IPv6
[01:33] <ash_workz> I wish I could pipe it to a gist
[01:33] <pavlos> ron____, this line,  eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: Rx/Tx
[01:33] <k1l_> ash_workz: ?
[01:33] <k1l_> ash_workz: run my command, it will output an url, show that url in here
[01:33] <ash_workz> k1l_: nothing, complaining :P
[01:33] <ash_workz> I knwo
[01:33] <pavlos> ron____, forget the IPV6 lines
[01:33] <ash_workz> I don't like termbin because you don't have as much control over it
[01:34] <k1l_> ash_workz: less complaining, more facts
[01:34] <ron____> pavlos: I do not get that line. I get "r8169 000:05:00.0 eth0: link up/down" only
[01:34] <ash_workz> k1l_: yeah: https://gist.github.com/ash-m/7fee86e91650ac7e23e0208aaf6bc116
[01:34] <ash_workz> k1l_: I mean, this *might* mean I am not using the 'software center' correctly
[01:35] <ron____> pavlos: I just got a crash with package network0manager-gnome 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu4.4
[01:35] <pavlos> ron____, look at the last lines of /var/log/syslog
[01:37] <k1l_> ash_workz: so what is the issue with isntalling postgresql-9.5-pgpool2 now?
[01:37] <pavlos> ron____, Bashing-om we agree, managed=false
[01:37] <ash_workz> k1l_: nothing, I am just confused about the software center
[01:38] <ron____> pavlos: A few interesting lines I see are " <info> (eth0): canceled DHCO transaction, DHCP client pid 4397"
[01:38] <ron____> pavlos:  Bashing-om and possibly more important I get "<info> (eth0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]"
[01:41] <k1l_> ash_workz: you see the versions from the ubuntu repo on your gist
[01:42] <ash_workz> k1l_: yes, I see that... so what am I doing wrong with the software center, I don't understand the results
[01:42] <Bashing-om> pavlos: ron____ false if NM is to manage networking .
[01:43] <ash_workz> k1l_: http://imgur.com/a/v9ep2
[01:43] <Bashing-om> ron____: GUI : Right-click Options -> A checkbox saying Enable Networking or not. .. and it is enabled here ?
[01:44] <pavlos> ron____, in the Network Manager GUI, make sure you do NOT have ipv6 checked
[01:45] <ron____> Bashing-om: It is enabled. pavlos: it was on automatic but NOT enabled. I can ignore it. Additionally I can add a gateway if needed. I don't want to do anything without running it past you guys first...
[01:46] <k1l_> ash_workz: i dont know where those are coming from
[01:46] <ash_workz> so.. take home message is: don't trust the software center
[01:47] <pavlos> ron____, you could create a new wired interface, static and give yourself an ip 192.168.1.100, gateway 192.168.1.1 and see if that works
[01:47] <pavlos> ron____, maks is 255.255.255.0
[01:47] <pavlos> ron____, mask
[01:47] <OerHeks> ash_workz, install synaptic, it gives a descriptionabout pgpool, maybe that helps
[01:47] <ron____> pavlos: Any reason I'm not using 10.1.3.1 as my gateway? That's my router
[01:48] <pavlos> ron____, I thought your router was 192.168.1.1
[01:48] <excelsio2a> I'm back!
[01:48] <ash_workz> sure; anything that improves the reliability of native tools :)
[01:48] <ash_workz> OerHeks: ^
[01:48] <ron____> pavlos: no. 10.1.3.1
[01:48] <excelsiora> hi
[01:48] <effectnet> hello.  i'm using the new version of freeplane, and the cursor keys and the home/end block of keys have stopped working.  just wondering what kind of behaviour this is?
[01:49] <pavlos> ron____, so give yourself a 10.1.3.100 with gateway 10.1.3.1, mask and see it you can ping the gateway
[01:49] <effectnet> oh well doh, i restarted the program and the keys are working again
[01:49] <effectnet> still vaguely curious, but oh well
[01:49] <ash_workz> OerHeks: that doesn't show those misc pkgs on the software center
[01:49] <ash_workz> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[01:50] <k1l_> ash_workz: those pacakges are snap packages and not apt packages
[01:51] <ash_workz> k1l_: which ones are snap?
[01:51] <OerHeks> k1l_, that could explain it indeed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pgpool2
[01:51] <ron____> pavlos: So this is where I got with manual connection. This connects me, BUT when I try to ping 10.1.3.1 I get Destination Host Unreachable
[01:51] <k1l_> the ones you talk about all the time
[01:52] <pavlos> ron____, output of route -n
[01:52] <OerHeks> ash_workz, you are on zesty 17.04 ?
[01:52] <ash_workz> OerHeks: xenial
[01:53] <ash_workz> is the naming gonna restart from 'A' on 18.x release?
[01:53] <ron____> pavlos: 2 lines: Under destination 0.0.0.0 and 10.1.3.0; Gateway, 10.1.3.1, 0.0.0.0; Genmask, 0.0.0.0, 255.255.255.0; Flags, UG,U; Metric,0,1; Ref, 0,0; Use, 0,0; Iface, eth0, eth0
[01:53] <ash_workz> I wonder why they skipped some letters
[01:54] <pavlos> ron____, that's correct
[01:54] <ron____> pavlos: woo! Now I just need to figure out why Destination Host is Unreachable. So was that a DHCP problem?
[01:55] <pavlos> ron____, can you mod /etc/resolv.conf and add as nameserver the gateway, 10.1.3.1
[01:55] <ron____> pavlos: should I still have 127.0.0.1?
[01:56] <pavlos> ron____, either add a second line, nameserver or comment the first. Changes on /etc/resolv.conf are immediate
[01:58] <ron____> pavlos: I made the change but the destination host stil unreachable
[01:58] <eck> probs
[01:59] <eck1> hi problem with mintlinux
[01:59] <Bashing-om> pavlos: ron____ LAN , such that your house router connects to the apartment router for intrface to the internet ?
[01:59] <pavlos> ron____, lets try sudo ifdown -a && sudo ifup -a
[01:59] <ash_workz> is it bad to install a snap package?
[01:59] <cfhowlett> !mint | eck1,
[02:00] <ron____> Bashing-om: yes. I believe so. It connects to a wall socket. pavlos is that the right ifdown command? I get ifdown: Use --help for help
[02:00] <k1l_> ash_workz: with you having that much trouble already. why dont you stick to apt and the ubuntu repo packages?
[02:01] <eck1> ubottu: thanks
[02:01] <pavlos> ron____, you should have the ifdown command ... so there is another router that eventually gets you out to the net?
[02:02] <ash_workz> k1l_: yeah
[02:02] <pavlos> ron____, ifdown -a implies all interfaces
[02:04] <ron____> pavlos: OOops typo here. I ran it but still dest host unreachable. And I assume it's a modem that I'm connecting to, but I can't say for sure
[02:05] <pavlos> ron____, Bashing-om help me undestand ... there is an apartment router that provides IP's to each apt. Your router gets a 10.1.3.1, then serves IP's to all systems in your apt.
[02:06] <pavlos> ron____, Bashing-om via DHCP, say 10.1.3.100-200
[02:06] <Bashing-om> pavlos: Uh Huh . so I am beginning to think .. we have a LAN here .
[02:06] <ron____> pavlos: My router is hooked up through a wall outlet. It provides internet to my apartment. Everything else works fine on it. Like my mac is 10.1.3.103
[02:07] <fishcooker> is there any iostat for cpu and memory usage?
[02:08] <pavlos> ron____, Bashing-om since the mac got 103, that means other devides got 100,101,102  but yout 14,04 does not get an IP
[02:08] <pavlos> ron____, devices
[02:08] <pavlos> ron____, we're back to square 1
[02:09] <FuZi0N> Is there any way to install Ubuntu using a windows installer without booting from usb or disc?
[02:09] <cfhowlett> FuZi0N, windows installer?  if you are referring to wubi, don't.  dead, unsupported, cursed and WILL break things
[02:10] <OerHeks> FuZi0N, there is wubi, depreciated.. and will not work for windows10. choose virtualbox then
[02:10] <pavlos> ron____, if you were to boot off a live CD/USB, would Try ubuntu work and get an IP? if so, your existing configuration is messed up
[02:11] <ron____> pavlos: I just checked fing for devices on my network. 10.1.3.100 does not show up. Additionally, this is a clean install :/
[02:12] <ron____> pavlos: I downloaded the amd64 version because I'm on amd
[02:12] <pavlos> ron____, if you log on to your router (http://10.1.3.1/) you can see the range of IP's DHCP offers
[02:12] <santosh> Where can I have social talks?
[02:12] <pavlos> ron____, amd is 64bit, x86_64
[02:13] <Bashing-om> !alis | santosh
[02:13] <FuZi0N> :/
[02:13] <FuZi0N> ok thanks
[02:13] <ron_____> pavlos: sorry, what was that?
[02:13] <santosh> Isn't there a non technical channel for Ubuntu?
[02:13] <FuZi0N> i have a dedicated server but don't have access to reload OS
[02:14] <cfhowlett> !ot | santosh,
[02:14] <FuZi0N> i guess i'll need to open a ticket and have them do it manually
[02:14] <pavlos> ron____, regarding amd, it says the system uses 64 bits where the i386 uses 32bits
[02:14] <pavlos> ron____, uname -a
[02:15] <pavlos> ron____, Linux linux 4.4.0-62-generic #83~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 18 18:10:30 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:17] <mystictot> where to find kernel public key and private key in distro kernel?
[02:18] <pavlos> Bashing-om, running out of ideas ... we checked /etc/hosts,/etc/hostname,/etc/resolv.conf,managed=false
[02:18] <r0gerth4t> pavlos hey whats your issue? i just got here
[02:19] <r0gerth4t> pavlos but it sounds like it might be similar to why i came in
[02:19] <pavlos> r0gerth4t, ron_____ cannot set his wired interface on 14.04
[02:19] <jdm> guys
[02:19] <r0gerth4t> okay never mind then
[02:19] <jdm> lets get cracked out on vyvanse 60mg
[02:20] <cfhowlett> jdm, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic please.
[02:20] <r0gerth4t> of all things, i actually can no longer access chat.freenode.net from my ubuntu, it says it cant resolve it. but nslookup sees various IPs, there is nothing overriding it in /etc/hosts, etc. where else would i look? unless ive somehow been actually blocked or something
[02:20] <jdm> lets get cracked out on vyvanse and provide free ubuntu support for two days without blinking and only breathing through our mouths
[02:20] <bazhang> jdm stop that now
[02:21] <jdm> alright fine, ill venture "outside" (where ever that is, sounds dangerous) and socialize
[02:21] <mystictot> i can't find public and private keys in /usr/src/linux-headers-4.2.0-27-generic/
[02:21] <mystictot> ?
[02:21] <OerHeks> mystictot, the public key is stored in your keyring, type 'keys' in dash and tool shows up. private keys are in the hands of development.
[02:24] <scriptso__> hey!
[02:24] <scriptso__> ls
[02:24] <scriptso__> lol
[02:24] <cfhowlett> scriptso__, stop please.
[02:24] <ron_____> yup, no such luck with my internet
[02:24] <cfhowlett> topic is ubuntu support.
[02:24] <Bashing-om> pavlos: Look'n like to me a config issue . we not getting a IP from the router . That the router knows about . We have to set a gateway somehow -  with NM I expected it to be automagic .
[02:26] <ron_____> pavlos: Bashing-om, I should be running amd64 correct? I have a 64 bit processor
[02:26] <pavlos> ron_____, correct
[02:27] <Bashing-om> ron_____: You have the correct install . Presently we are stuck on why there is no default gateway to your house router .
[02:27] <pavlos> Bashing-om, yes but the router does not offer a dhcp
[02:27] <ron_____> pavlos: good. That's what i have. Just making sure
[02:28] <Bashing-om> pavlos: Well, the router is giving out IP's as other boxes on the in-house network work . We just not looking in the right place .
[02:28] <pavlos> Bashing-om, even with a static ip, we have no path to router
[02:29] <Bashing-om> pavlos: ron_____ Bad cable to the router ?
[02:29] <pavlos> Bashing-om, that would be wild !!
[02:29] <ron_____> Bashing-om: Cable works fine for every other device.
[02:30] <ron_____> pavlos: Bashing-om: I'm going to boot up into a fresh install on a flash drive. I don't do UEFI right?
[02:31] <jinxuesong> #IS
[02:31] <pavlos> ron_____, just boot of a live usb and try ubuntu (runs from memory), do not install
[02:32] <pavlos> ron_____, off *
[02:32] <ubuntu-mate> hello everyone, just trying Ubuntu Mate from a USB drive, wondering if i can install it on this USB drive permanently
[02:32] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-mate, you can
[02:32] <cfhowlett> as with any ubuntu
[02:33] <Bashing-om> ron_____: K; as to booting UEFI will not matter .. not related to networking how you boot up . in the liveUSB will be interested in seeing '  ip route list " ( 3 lines ) .
[02:33] <ron_____> pavlos: Bashing-om alright. I'm in a fresh copy
[02:33] <ubuntu-mate> That's nice, but i dont know how :), could you help me pls?
[02:33] <ron_____> Bashing-om: pavlos ip route list has nothing
[02:34] <pavlos> ron_____, so you are on Try Ubuntu and ifconfig does not give you an ip?
[02:35] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-mate, one way: /msg ubottu persistence
[02:35] <MarcoP> anyone happen to know why graphical front ends to sudo like gksu don't see to work well with bleachbit
[02:35] <MarcoP> seem
[02:36] <ron_____> pavlos: Bashing-om, Same issues. No ip address
[02:36] <jasna> hello, I am having issues with connecting to the wifi/internet after my laptop goes out of suspend mode
[02:36] <MarcoP> seems like something gets altered somewhere cause the bleachbit settings get changed..
[02:36] <guest-efwso2> 31337 h4x0r
[02:36] <jasna> How do I get the internet/wifi reconnected after it goes out of suspend mode?
[02:36] <jasna> I think it may be a driver issue...
[02:37] <cfhowlett> guest-efwso2, topic here is ubuntu support.  ask your questions or provide meaningful answers.  jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:37] <Bashing-om> ron_____: You are presently booting a liveUSB in "try ubuntu" mode - and no networking available here also ?
[02:38] <ron_____> Bashing-om: yes. That is correct
[02:39] <pavlos> ron_____, can you log on to your router and see the range the router offers (eg. 10.1.3.100-150) is it possible the router offers 3 IP's and you maxed out?
[02:39] <ubuntu-mate> Im also booting now from a liveUSB in try ubuntu mode and everything works perfectly
[02:39] <pavlos> ron_____, how many devices connect to your router?
[02:41] <ron_____> pavlos: mmmm under 10 I believe
[02:41] <pavlos> ron_____, and I assume the range is from 100-110 where the mac got the 103
[02:42] <turista> hello every1, how can I make that the apt-get update only look for english stuff and no other languages?¿
[02:42] <jasna> hello, I am having issues with connecting to the wifi/internet after my laptop goes out of suspend mode. Here us my lspci http://pastebin.com/pQCvjWAB
[02:42] <ron_____> I don't know how to check that. By going to my router's ip address, I get a login page for my apartment complex
[02:43] <OerHeks> turista, basicly not.
[02:44] <turista> but I saw it in a magazine, just they are not very good explainning
[02:45] <Bashing-om> ron_____: pavlos Oh Mercy .. now I am really confused as to what we have to work with :(
[02:45] <pavlos> ron_____, if the try ubuntu does not get an ip, something fishy with the router
[02:45] <ron_____> Bashing-om: pavlos, you guys can ignore the login page though, I can get that working. I'm just trying to get my instance to ping the router
[02:47] <pavlos> ron_____, the try ubuntu uses NetworkManager and DHCP, it works out of the box
[02:47] <pavlos> ron_____, you said, it did not so I dont know what else to suggest
[02:49] <ron_____> pavlos: I jut disconnected my router from internet and connected my pc directly to the wall socket
[02:51] <pavlos> ron_____, reboot pc or restart network
[02:51] <pavlos> ron_____, do you get an ip?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> Getting close to release ! " Builds: Ubuntu Server s390x [Xenial 16.04.2] (20170216.1) has been added ; server amd64, i386, ppc64el look good " .
[02:53] <ron_____> pavlos: Just tried. I've got nothing :/
[02:54] <pavlos> ron_____, I have to leave at 8pm (in 7 min). I hope someone else can chime in
[02:55] <ubuntu-mate> anyone here Using a Chromebook Pixel 2013?
[02:56] <ron_____> pavlos: I greatly appreciate your help
[02:57] <OerHeks> ubuntu-mate, if you open it, losing waranty, you should be able to run ubuntu on it  http://fossforce.com/2016/08/1596877/
[02:58] <turista> I can not install apt-fast dunno why -__-
[02:58] <OerHeks> !info apt-fast
[02:58] <turista> after using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:apt-fast/stable did work fine
[02:59] <turista> then I did use apt-get update then I did try to install but just fail
[03:00] <OerHeks> turista, look at the ppa page, does it have a package for your ubuntu version? https://launchpad.net/~apt-fast/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[03:02]  * turista kickes the magazine
[03:03] <OerHeks> http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/
[03:07] <explodes> I just upgraded my RAM a couple weeks ago. Whenever I open up some IDEs, my chrome tabs *crash* and then keep crashing. I feel like I have some bad bits in my RAM or something.
[03:07] <explodes> What is a good tool for checking the RAM?
[03:07] <wedgie> explodes: memtest. Should be one of the options in grub when you boot up
[03:07] <explodes> Ah, grub doesn't show by default, what do I press?
[03:08] <OerHeks> hold shift @ boot
[03:08] <explodes> ok awesome. thanks
[03:08] <explodes> ETA for 16GB?
[03:08] <explodes> all night?
[03:08] <wedgie> explodes: once I had a situation where I upgraded ram and had problems like what you describe. Turns out i needed to update my bios
[03:09] <explodes> oh neat
[03:09] <wedgie> 16GB will take quite a while, yes
[03:09] <OerHeks> do 2 runs, that would give some result
[03:09] <sdasda> Hi guys .... fedora/mint/ubuntu for start ?
[03:09] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[03:10] <silv3r_m00n> i have installed kubuntu 16.10 but when i start the system, it drops to a terminal asking for login, instead of showing the login welcome screen
[03:10] <silv3r_m00n> how do i diagnose the problem
[03:10] <OerHeks> sdasda, you were told to poll in ##linux, we say use ubuntu
[03:10] <cfhowlett> sdasda, we would have no way of knowing what is best for you, would we?  but ... since you asked the ubuntu support channel ... download ubuntu, make a bootable USB, boot the USB and perform your own testing so you can decide for yourelf?
[03:10] <wedgie> sdasda: going to ask that in every distros channel? YOu realize that each channel will recommend that distro, right?
[03:11] <ron_____> Anyone want to take a crack at this super weird connection issue?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> ron_____: Still on this . We stil have to find out the why there is no DHCP . With the box connected to the house router, and that to the apt router, what returns ' arp -a ' ?
[03:12] <ron_____> Bashing-om: nothing returns from that. What should that do?
[03:12] <sdasda> wedgie: sorry my english is very bad, so ...
[03:13] <sdasda> ok guys so ubuntu but KDE UNIT or GNOME ? :D
[03:13] <turista> gnome
[03:13] <OerHeks> sdasda, try them all, and use the one you like
[03:13] <Bashing-om> ron_____: "sysop@x1604:~$ arp -a >> dlinkrouter (192.168.0.1) at 6c:19:8f:eb:ca:1b [ether] on enp1s9
[03:13] <Photon> Random question, is there a license I can use that basically means my code cannot be used/redistributed in any way unless I give permission? USA
[03:13] <cfhowlett> sdasda, stop.  please.  install ubuntu. AFTER you install, come back and we'll tell you how to test the other desktop environments
[03:13] <wedgie> Photon: that's the default. All rights reserved.
[03:13] <Photon> Oh
[03:13] <Photon> xD
[03:14] <Photon> Thanks
[03:14] <Photon> "it no longer has any legal effect in any jurisdiction."
[03:14] <wedgie> a license *is* that permission
[03:14] <explodes> Hmmm "hardinfo" doesn't appear to show my motherboard type, where can I find that
[03:14] <turista> sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-255
[03:14] <ron_____> Bashing-om: What is that that you want me to do?
[03:15] <wedgie> Photon: of course, if this is for something important you may be better off talking to a lawyer, not strangers on the internet :)
[03:15] <Photon> Yeah =P
[03:16] <OerHeks> turista, correct would be: sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24
[03:17] <Photon> Another issue. IntelliJ IDEA suddenly doesn't work from the menu
[03:17] <turista> but in the magazine did show different, that ppl is bad at teaching p.q
[03:17] <turista> btw do you have the linux bible?¿ I can't find it browsing these torrent files
[03:18] <turista> brb
[03:18] <wedgie> turista: both notations are acceptable
[03:19] <explodes> holding shift didn't work
[03:19] <OerHeks> turista, https://help.ubuntu.com/ in html or pdf
[03:20] <OerHeks> explodes, should work, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[03:20] <wedgie> explodes: worst case the usb or cd you installed from will have it as an option as well (and many other distros include it too)
[03:21] <turista> I rather to have that help in pdf :-P
[03:25] <ron_____> Bashing-om: I just ran dhclient -v eth0 and it keeps showing DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval (n) (xid=0x7b268451)
[03:25] <ron_____> where n is a number
[03:30] <Bashing-om> ron_____: I am continueing to beat my brains up to come up with the means to know what the router is broadcasting . So we come up with the correct OP to adrress your router . My last was in response to "nothing returns from that. What should that do?" showing on a good connection what it "should do" .
[03:32] <ron_____> Bashing-om: I'm sorry. I was confused on what you were appending to dlinkrouter
[03:32] <jasna> hello, I am having issues with connecting to the wifi/internet after my laptop goes out of suspend mode. Here us my lspci http://pastebin.com/pQCvjWAB
[03:34] <Bashing-om> ron_____: Oh it can get confussing :) Still, I have to winder if you have set in your router to hand out IPs ? On my router ( el cheapo ) I have . But I am going from the router into a High speed modem for my ISP .
[03:34] <Bashing-om> winder/wonder*
[03:36] <ron_____> Bashing-om: I've got an apple airport
[03:36] <UHck> hey do you now where I can go to volunteer as a developer for ubuntu]
[03:36] <Bashing-om> ron_____: All we know presently is that there is no IP to link to the router ! ( and linking the house router to the apt router may be another challenge ) .
[03:36] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, when i start my ubuntu system, it drops to a login terminal instead of bringing up the gui screen, here is what the systemlog shows, http://pastebin.com/Cw0gvNVS
[03:37] <silv3r_m00n> any idea whats going wrong ?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> !contribute | UHck
[03:38] <UHck> Oh I may not have been specific enough byt I meant like I want to know what are other developers working on right now so I can help out I want to be MOTU
[03:38] <cfhowlett> UHck, #ubuntu-devel       ask
[03:40] <UHck> Thanks
[03:49] <sponix> Where does Unity store the Launcher information ?
[03:55] <sirensari> Is chmod technically a file operation?
[03:55] <sirensari> Or is "file operation" a special type of command
[03:57] <coffeeguy> hi how do you install themes in ubuntu?
[03:57] <coffeeguy> !ubtto themes
[03:58] <coffeeguy> !ubottu themes
[03:58] <cfhowlett> coffeeguy, that would be /msg ubottu themes
[04:03] <ron____> update on my issue! I tried using an entirely new router and no such luck. Still broken internet. So that rules out router and etheernet cable issues
[04:04] <ron____> Also. Just so you know, I had this issue when using 1604, too.
[04:04] <cfhowlett> ron____, 2 different machines?
[04:05] <ron____> cfhowlett: same machine. 2 different routers, cords, versions of Ubuntu. Maybe it has to do with my mobo?
[04:06] <cfhowlett> ron____, doubtful, I'd say.  boot a live USB and test your access
[04:06] <coffeeguy> ty cfhowlett
[04:06] <ron____> cfhowlett: I just did that with no such luck unfortunately
[04:06] <cfhowlett> ron____, could it be an ISP issue?
[04:06] <turista> it seems like a networking trouble :-P
[04:07] <turista> if u have internet directly from the modem
[04:07] <ron____> Nah. I'm running fine on the same network here and the same with my Windows boot on the same machine. It's only Ubuntu to from my router
[04:07] <turista> then u didn't set the bridge between the two routers
[04:07] <ron____> turista: I don't have access to the modem.
[04:08] <turista> wich network parameters do u have from the subnet
[04:08] <turista> or try a nslookup
[04:10] <turista> if you think ubuntu is the trouble, u should check the tabs where the config of the network is
[04:10] <turista> u may have a static address there :-P
[04:12] <adonaros> anyone by any chance have the twitter sql dump and would be willing to share? thanks.
[04:13] <ron____> Bashing-om: Holy *insert explitive* it works.
[04:13] <ron____> Bashing-om: Gigabyte 990fxa ud3 mobo was screwing everything up. There is a setting IOMMU in bios to turn on that fixes everything
[04:14] <ron____> Thank you guys so much for all the help the past few days. I definitely learned a bit about linux
[04:30] <federico4523> hi?
[04:38] <lolindiasucks> how do you stop a nigger from drowning?
[04:40] <bobafett> issues with vpn connection and ip changing. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2352501
[04:41] <CrazyTux> hello, I have read online that Lubuntu is one of the lightweight, faster and least resource hungry distros available. My question is if I have a distro like Ubuntu or Xubuntu installed on my laptop and then install Lubuntu Desktop over it, can I get the same performance?
[04:43] <slicktux> CrazyTux: that does not make sense? install Lubuntu over it? as it overwrite it? or Overlay over the current installs; that is essentially 'upgrading' to lubuntu?
[04:43] <Bashing-om> CrazyTux: To add to your delimma : If performance is the prime consideration . then learn what a core install is .
[04:43] <slicktux> ^^
[04:44] <slicktux> or go with Gentoo and run Openbox. . .
[04:45] <CrazyTux> I am new to linux. I have Xubuntu 16.10 installed on my laptop. Over it I have installed Lubuntu Desktop, LXDE, Mate Desktop and Gnome also.
[04:45] <CrazyTux> I will stick to Ubuntu and its derivatives.
[04:46] <bobafett> any idea why i can connect to my vpn through network manager but the IP isnt changing?
[04:46] <CrazyTux> At login I am presented with options like Lubuntu, Lxde, Gnome, Mate etc.
[04:46] <CrazyTux> I can switch between those.
[04:47] <CrazyTux> If I chose Lubuntu Desktop, does it give the same performance as when Lubuntu OS is installed? that actually was my doubt.
[04:51] <slicktux> CrazyTux: that I do not know: I am sure that all of Xubuntu's services and packages will be loaded during init; so with regards to performance; if Lubuntu uses a differing, lighter DE, then yes you should get slightly better perf, it all depends. should not be too noticible in newer systems.
[04:51] <CrazyTux> ok.
[04:52] <CrazyTux> slicktux, thanks a lot.
[04:52] <slicktux> Yer Welc;
[04:52] <tatertots> bobafett: changing from what?...since it's usually a completely different adapter...are you sure you're not looking at the wlan/lan adapter and expecting to see something change...that's what it sounds like to me...you're looking at your 192.x.x.x and expecting it to change when you connect to vpn...
[04:52] <explodes> omg what is this red error symbol on my gparted entry for bios_grub: https://imgur.com/a/Pp4G1
[04:53] <slicktux> explodes: IDK but it might explode!
[04:53] <explodes> joeks
[04:53] <slicktux> explodes: maybe something wrong with fstab
[04:54] <slicktux> it is missing a filessystem that's fer sure.
[04:54] <CrazyTux> I am using Linux as the only OS on my laptop. I want to create a bootable usb drive of Windows 10 for my friend. I don't have access to any Windows system now. Is there any tool or application available for Ubuntu to create it?
[04:54] <slicktux> might have to mkfs.* and reinstall kernel images.
[04:55] <slicktux> dd
[04:55] <explodes> me?
[04:55] <CrazyTux> slicktux, dd?
[04:55] <slicktux> CrazyTux: liveuSB or just the ISO to install?.
[04:55] <slicktux> explodes: yes mkfs.*
[04:55] <slicktux> or what ever .deb uses for automation.
[04:56] <CrazyTux> ok
[04:56] <explodes> Damn. Here is my /etc/fstab, it looks ok 2 me tho http://ix.io/6L7
[04:56] <CrazyTux> thanks
[04:56] <slicktux> CrazyTux: if you have the .iso than you can dd if=path/to/.iso of=/dev/USB** bs=512
[04:56] <explodes> My blkid: http://ix.io/6ZJ
[04:56] <CrazyTux> ok
[04:56] <uxfi> hello
[04:57] <slicktux> CrazyTux: dd is a could be a dangerouse command so be carefull!
[04:57] <slicktux> ommit is a. . .lol
[04:57] <CrazyTux> ok.
[04:57] <CrazyTux> why dangerous?
[04:58] <CrazyTux> and what is bs=512 in that command?
[04:58] <slicktux> CrazyTux: because if you dd to say yer hdd or hdd partition than you will overwrite it with whatebever yer dd'ing and loose data
[04:58] <slicktux> CrazyTux: dd --help
[04:58] <slicktux> dd man page
[04:58] <slicktux> RTFM my spoon broke
[04:58] <CrazyTux> ok
[04:58] <slicktux> lol
[04:59] <CrazyTux> I'll use the live usb application.
[04:59] <explodes> I'm running gpart on /dev/sda
[05:00] <CrazyTux> thanks for that info.
[05:00] <CrazyTux> bye.
[05:00] <explodes> gpart didn't do squat
[05:00] <slicktux> explodes: lol
[05:00] <slicktux> explodes: are you trying to make a new partition when you already have it but it is only missing the filesystem?
[05:01] <slicktux> explodes: also, was yer system able to boot with that 'error' or was that snap from a live environment?
[05:03] <explodes> I have no idea what I'm doing .
[05:03] <explodes> D:
[05:03] <explodes> It boots, yes
[05:03] <explodes> That was live - when I boot, i cannot open Grub with "shift" or by commenting out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[05:04] <explodes> I figure these are related
[05:04] <explodes> /dev/sda2 is flagged with bios_grub
[05:05] <Bashing-om> explodes: sda1 fat32 implies this is a EFI machine . Then it is the escape key that grub looks for .
[05:05] <explodes> werd
[05:05] <explodes> thank you
[05:05] <explodes> brb
[05:06] <Bashing-om> explodes: spam the escape key . only a 3 second window of opportunity.
[05:08] <explodes> nice that did it
[05:08] <explodes> thank you
[05:08] <Bashing-om> explodes: :)
[05:08] <explodes> while this memtest is running for the next 500 years, every time I boot, i get a temporary black screen that says [/dev/sda4 clean: 234892798234/29384729878 something something
[05:09] <explodes> what does that even mean?
[05:09] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:09] <explodes> ohey sxy ldy
[05:09] <Bashing-om> explodes: systemd just telling you all is fine .
[05:10] <explodes> ok cool
[05:43] <russki> Trying to figure out why only one speaker works in Ubun 16.10 on laptop, dual boot with windows 10 where all speakers fine in windows. Tried everything, any suggestions?
[05:45] <tambu> Sorry guys, this seems like it should be simple but how do I change the unicorn port from 8080 it's in use. I tried changing gitlab.rb unicorn['port'] = 8081 and restart/reconfigure no luck.
[05:46] <tambu> rofl it's commented isn't it sigh
[06:09] <lord-ragnarock> So I'm installing 12.04 PowerPC via the Alternate ISO, and my 22 year old Macintosh is pooping out at some point after the base intsall and sometime before X and GNOME can be fully installed. I'm tempted to leave the installation be after the base install and install X myself.
[06:10] <lord-ragnarock> Along with XFCE as well. Is that any difficult to do from a base install? :)
[06:12] <lord-ragnarock> I know it's 'apt-get install xfce ... ... ...', but I'm wondering how much I'll have to set up manually :P
[06:21] <Bashing-om> lord-ragnarock: Do not know Macs, but a minimal install: ' sudo apt install xorg ; sudo apt intstall xfce4/ pne boots to terminal and in terminal ' startxfce4 ' to start the GUI.
[06:22] <Bashing-om> lord-ragnarock: That be sudo apt install xfce4 . one boots to terminal ......
[06:23] <lord-ragnarock> Thought so :)
[06:24] <lord-ragnarock> It's been years since I've messed with Ubuntu (normal Arch user) Does installing something like lightdm or SLiM automatically set the program up to be run after booting?
[06:25] <lord-ragnarock> From my last old Mac I remember that's what it did. But at the same time my memory's crap hahaha
[06:25] <Bashing-om> lord-ragnarock: Honestly, on a single user system a login manager is useless overhead .
[06:44] <CrazyTux> hello, I have installed Gnome Desktop on my existing Xubuntu 16.10. At login I get options Gnome, Gnome Classic and Gnome on wayland. What are these and what is the difference between these?
[06:45] <drjam> when i see wayland i think of the game Android Netrunner
[06:45] <drjam> but no help sorry
[06:45] <hateball> CrazyTux: Wayland is the new display server, instead of X.org
[06:45] <hateball> or Mir
[06:46] <CrazyTux> ok.
[06:46] <hateball> and gnome classic is a bunch of extensions to make gnome3 look like gnome2 afaik
[06:47] <CrazyTux> and I am trying to update the OS now. I am on Gnome now. But, not able to update.
[06:47] <CrazyTux> ok
[06:48] <CrazyTux> Now I'm able to.
[06:51] <CrazyTux> Does Gnome 2 look like Mate?
[06:52] <CrazyTux> or let me try it myself.
[06:52] <GreySunshine> CrazyTux: Pretty much yes.
[06:52] <tatertots> good idea
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> CrazyTux: perhaps the #ubuntu-gnome channel might also be interseting for you?
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> *interesting
[06:53] <CrazyTux> yes.
[06:53] <CrazyTux> I'll be back in a minute.
[06:53] <CrazyTux> thanks a lot, guys.
[06:54] <tatertots> somebody in #ubuntu-gnome must have made you upset
[06:54] <isdes> if i want to connect my note 5 to the linux im on an send it a adb file how to i do that ?>
[06:56] <B105PH3RE> maybe somebody can help me with my issue, samba only giving me like 6-9 MB/s while everything else is like 50-60mb/s any ideas?
[06:57] <B105PH3RE> tweaks perhaps
[06:57] <tatertots> client or servre
[06:57] <CrazyTux> yes. Gnome classic resembles somewhat to Mate.
[06:57] <tatertots> server
[06:57] <B105PH3RE> server
[06:58] <tatertots> server is ubuntu?
[06:58] <B105PH3RE> yes
[06:58] <tatertots> what os are clients?
[06:58] <B105PH3RE> 12.04 i believe let me check again
[06:58] <B105PH3RE> 16.04
[06:58] <CrazyTux> I am curious, why so many DEs in Linux/Ubuntu?
[06:58] <B105PH3RE> are clients, windows, mac, varios others
[06:58] <CrazyTux> Is it just the appearance or something more that changes when a DE is changed.
[06:59] <B105PH3RE> all connections on transfer are slow
[06:59] <tatertots> are any of the clients linux ?
[06:59] <B105PH3RE> yes
[07:00] <tatertots> are those linux clients configured to mount the share at boot via fstab?
[07:01] <tatertots> check which version is being used
[07:01] <isdes> #sprint
[07:01] <tatertots> smb version
[07:02] <B105PH3RE> one sec let me check
[07:02] <tatertots> sounds like 1.0
[07:03] <B105PH3RE> ubuntu 12.04 server with smb 3.6.25
[07:03] <B105PH3RE> all shares are affected
[07:03] <B105PH3RE> regardless of drive location and such
[07:03] <B105PH3RE> its the only service that is slow sftp http everything else is good xrdp also is good just not samba file transfers on gigabit netowkr
[07:03] <B105PH3RE> network*
[07:06] <tatertots> do you have access to one of the linux clients right now?
[07:08] <tatertots> never heard of 3.6....3.0 is the highest....so we are talking about two different things most likely...you'll need to access one of the linux client now and let me show you how to find the smb version i'm talking about
[07:08] <tatertots> there is no 3.6 that i'm aware of
[07:08] <tatertots> there's 1.0 2.0 2.1 and 3.0 that's it
[07:09] <B105PH3RE> samba version it says i have based smbd --version is 3.6.25
[07:09] <tatertots> you might be talking about the version of the samba package
[07:09] <tatertots> yeah you are talking about the version of the samba package......that's not what i'm talking about
[07:10] <B105PH3RE> which version you want of the deb file that was used?
[07:10] <tatertots> no....it's a little more complicated than that
[07:10] <B105PH3RE> ok
[07:10] <B105PH3RE> so spill the beans then where do I check for the version your talking about?
[07:11] <gonzzor> The ubuntu cloud image recently changed so that the ubuntu user is no longer created. Where can I find any release notes related to this, or information about the construction of this image?
[07:11] <tatertots> i'll ask you one again
[07:11] <tatertots> do you have access to one of the linux clients right now?
[07:11] <B105PH3RE> i'm on my linux client yes
[07:11] <B105PH3RE> i don't use wincrap
[07:12] <B105PH3RE> 7 machines one is windows the wifes
[07:12] <tatertots> do you have the samba share mounted right now? yes or no
[07:12] <B105PH3RE> yes
[07:12] <B105PH3RE> its mounted
[07:12] <tatertots> type mount
[07:12] <tatertots> in terminal
[07:12] <tatertots> find the line of your smb share
[07:12] <B105PH3RE> i know you want my current fstab
[07:12] <B105PH3RE> one sec
[07:13] <tatertots> don't need the fstab...i just know it consistently reveals what i'm talking about to make a demonstration for you more easily
[07:13] <B105PH3RE> sorry its not mounted
[07:13] <tatertots> but having it mounted should suffice also
[07:14] <tatertots> did you type mount and find the line for your smb/samba share?
[07:14] <B105PH3RE> its not mounted
[07:16] <anddam> I'd like to check the health of a couple HDD, I installed smartmontools and played with smartctl  from the docs
[07:16] <anddam> problem is I don't really know how to use the tools, I have a couple attributes from the short test that are pre-failure
[07:17] <tatertots> it's frowned up on around here to tell people to google something or read up on something but .........research SMB Protocol versions.....then you will know what i'm talking about...and also  that 3.0 is the highest version
[07:17] <anddam> I don't know if it's critical or what  else, I looked for a tutorial and for "smartmontools for dummies" with no luck
[07:17] <tatertots> so off to google you go
[07:17] <hateball> anddam: smartctl -a /dev/sdWhatever, pastebin results here
[07:18] <B105PH3RE> so you want me to get the protocol versiont that samba is using?
[07:18] <anddam> hateball: https://gist.github.com/anddam/7c3c85385b6f7e2a4569ee7204cdbb45
[07:18] <tatertots> if i had to bet money...i'd bet you're using 1.0 from the sound of your testimony
[07:19] <B105PH3RE> ok so how can I change it ugrade it on ubuntu 12.04
[07:19] <tatertots> but it's your computer...and you are the admin of it not me
[07:19] <anddam> hateball: as you can see attributes 1, 3, 5, 7, 10 are pre-fail, but I'm not really sure how to interpret that
[07:20] <anddam> hateball: I do understand the individual meaning of the attributes, namely 1, 5 and 7 are the most worrisome to me
[07:20] <work> hi
[07:20] <work> google chrome dont install on Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus)?
[07:21] <tatertots> you can't even mount it...what on earth makes you think you're going to upgrade something
[07:21] <tatertots> lol
[07:21] <ducasse> !zesty | work
[07:21] <B105PH3RE> I can mount it but I don't usually mount it to access
[07:21] <B105PH3RE> don't be arrogant now
[07:21] <B105PH3RE> if thats even problem
[07:22] <tatertots> if you had done your home work on SMB protocol versions like i suggested you would know what i speak of is fact...word is bond
[07:23] <B105PH3RE> you never suggested you just started asking questions... if you thought it was the protocol would have been nice if you said so...
[07:23] <B105PH3RE> but thanx for the help anynow
[07:23] <B105PH3RE> anyhow*
[07:23] <tatertots> you would also know that i was completely and %100 accurate when i said there is only 1.0 2.0 2.1 and 3.0
[07:24] <tatertots> but i gotta stop even talking to you before you get me in trouble...i already got enough haters around here
[07:25] <B105PH3RE> i'm not a hater and I don't hate you I just thought you were asking for my samba version not the protocol version miscommunication in here is common
[07:26] <B105PH3RE> i've been using linux for over 15+ years but not all aspects I have been in depth with
[07:31] <anddam> any advice on how to make sense of smartmontools' output?
[07:33] <hateball> anddam: to make things more fun, some manufacturers use their own values for stuff
[07:33] <hateball> anddam: so you'd kinda need to google the model of drive + Raw_Read_Error_Rate, for instance
[07:34] <hateball> anddam: like manufacturer X would use 1 as the value for 1 error/reallocation, but that's not certain for all...
[07:35] <anddam> hateball: that's just the best
[07:36] <hateball> anddam: I googled this http://sgros.blogspot.se/2013/01/seagate-disk-smart-values.html
[07:36] <anddam> hateball: assuming the meaning is the one reported by smartmontools, how should I read those 5 pre-fails?
[07:36] <hateball> anddam: Yes it's awesome and great fun, why would anyone use the same standards :D
[07:36] <anddam> is there a "better" manufacturer to look for in future?
[07:36] <anddam> someone who adopts an actual standard?
[07:37] <anddam> btw I updated the gist with the second drive I'm looking to check
[07:37] <hateball> anddam: I doubt there is. Everything sucks! Also I really only flashdrives these days. But ##hardware would perhaps know more
[07:37] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: btw my version is 1.0
[07:38] <anddam> hateball: thanks. incidentally the 4TB drive is a Seagate so that url will be useful
[07:39] <lord-ragnarock> Is there a way to change the installation source in the alternate install?
[07:39] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: i figured it was
[07:40] <hateball> anddam: the WD drive is pretty obvious it is failing at least
[07:40] <lord-ragnarock> For context: In my PPC version I have to boot from just a kernel and ramdisk via a Mac application called "BootX", from which it looks for a CD after I select my keyboard layout :P
[07:40] <hateball> anddam: personally I replace drives after even 1 error. Some say you can be lucky and it keeps working properly... but I rather not take chances
[07:45] <anddam> hateball: by "1 error" you mean one failing attribute?
[07:45] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: so my version of samba supports 2.02 protocol version maximum so now I need to just upgrade it
[07:45] <hateball> anddam: at least for read/writes
[07:46] <anddam> btw I see Disks program in Unity has "SMART Data & self-tests" entry but for my USB device it's greyed out, while it's working for the SATA device
[07:46] <anddam> is Disks not relying on smartmontools?
[07:47] <anddam> I ask because smartmontools can read the external box SMART into since it supports its chipset
[07:51] <anddam> hateball: to make matter more confusing the "Error log" section of the WD says "No errors logged", but the "Self-test log" has two short tests completed "with read errors"
[07:51] <anddam> way to be confusing???
[07:52] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: would it help if I used client min protocol coreplus or any other option
[07:55] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: your mount trick doesn't work when I force smb2 protocol I can't mount it.. it will only mount with protocol 1 enabled using the mount
[08:02] <cfoch-always> hi
[08:02] <cfoch-always> where should I locate my websites in Ubuntu using apache?
[08:02] <cfoch-always> /var/www ?
[08:02] <cfoch-always> or should I enable userdir on put it on public_html?
[08:03] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: the server is ubuntu correct?
[08:03] <B105PH3RE> yes
[08:03] <Dynetrekk> hi, apt upgrade hangs on downloading packages (16.04). hitting Ctrl-C and re-running makes it progress again, but this has to be repeated often. what's the issue? it's been like this since 16.04 was released AFAIK
[08:03] <B105PH3RE> I was able to force the smb2 protocol but I can't mount the share but I am going to try a transfer right now with smb2 forces
[08:03] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: then you are fully capable of something > 1.0
[08:04] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: you will need to make sure you smb.conf reflect that
[08:04] <B105PH3RE> i believe whats happening is that the client is using he bottom of the barrel by default so I am trying to fix that right now
[08:04] <B105PH3RE> working on it now
[08:04] <Ben66> Dynetrekk: try a different mirror
[08:04] <Dynetrekk> Ben66: /etc/where?
[08:05] <Ben66> you can choose one from the software sources thingy
[08:06] <Ben66> Dynetrekk: check first answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/53084/how-do-i-change-which-mirror-i-get-updates-and-software-from
[08:06] <Dynetrekk> Ben66: great
[08:06] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: there is a form of "negotiation" that occurs.....and sometimes you end up with 1.0 as a result, unless you architect things in a > 1.0 manner
[08:07] <B105PH3RE> i can't access the share when I force smb2 should I use COREPLUS or LANMAN
[08:07] <cfoch-always> I think you didn't read my message
[08:07] <B105PH3RE> can i force smb1.2 or something didn't see thay anywhere
[08:07] <cfoch-always> should I use a userdir $HOME/public_html or put my files in /var/www ?
[08:07] <koen_> i am not able to ssh from ubuntu to fedora
[08:08] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: did you already try lanman
[08:08] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: are you gonna have lots of users?
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> koen_: perhaps try the #openssh channel?
[08:08] <B105PH3RE> no only core coreplus and smb2
[08:08] <B105PH3RE> can't use smb2 to access the share
[08:08] <koen_> could someone help me out .gettingssh: connect to host 192.168.47.129 port 22: No route to host
[08:09] <Dynetrekk> koen_: that IP address does not have a server on the other end
[08:09] <B105PH3RE> koen_: can you ping that ip and is the ssh server running on that port or a different port?
[08:09] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: you'll need to fix your smb.conf......my ubuntu server auto negotiates 2.1
[08:10] <cfoch-always> B105PH3RE: yes
[08:10] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: what exactly only thing it did was min and max protocol
[08:10] <koen_> Dynetrekk: why do we need sshd there.sshd is needed only in the machine where we try to ssh from right?
[08:11] <B105PH3RE> koen_: is this a new config or you just having this issue on one system or no systems can remote it?
[08:11] <Dynetrekk> koen_: ping that IP first, see if the machine even exists
[08:11] <koen_> B105PH3RE: i tried for 2 systems.so i guess its nt allowing for multiple systems too
[08:11] <Dynetrekk> koen_: then try ssh -v $myip
[08:11] <B105PH3RE> koen_: can you ssh localhost on the that system?
[08:11] <koen_> im nt able to ping getting host unreachable
[08:12] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: how are you mounting your shares?
[08:12] <B105PH3RE> koen_: you cannot ping
[08:12] <Dynetrekk> koen_: then you won't be able to SSH or anything else on that machine
[08:12] <koen_> B105PH3RE: i am able to ssh in localhost
[08:12] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: it won't let me with smb2
[08:12] <cfoch-always> B105PH3RE: so should I use userdir?
[08:12] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: or how HAD you been mounting them @ 1.0
[08:12] <B105PH3RE> koen_: you are on that computer 192.168.47.129
[08:12] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: with mount command with -t cifs
[08:13] <koen_> B105PH3RE: no on 192.168.47.128
[08:13] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: don't use that
[08:13] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: can't access the file share over file manager
[08:13] <koen_> B105PH3RE: trying to connect it to 192.168.47.129
[08:13] <B105PH3RE> koen_: and you cannot ping then you have a communication problem
[08:13] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: mount.cifs
[08:14] <B105PH3RE> yes
[08:14] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: mount.cifs    NOT mount -t cifs
[08:15] <B105PH3RE> the other way I usuall access it isn't mounting i'm using thunar file manager to access the share vis smb://192.168.0.1/sharename
[08:15] <B105PH3RE> i never mount the share
[08:15] <B105PH3RE> thunar file manager I guess mounts it for me
[08:16] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: take control of things or you will be stuck with 1.0
[08:16] <B105PH3RE> windows users can access share either with smb2
[08:17] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: can or can't.....the inclusion of the term "either" is kinda throwing me for a loop
[08:18] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: you meant "can't" right?....because that doesn't sound anywhere near grammatically correct when you later include the term/phrase "either'
[08:19] <B105PH3RE> I cannot access the shares when I use smb2 protocl
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> isdes: just readed this article, can it help? https://www.maketecheasier.com/back-up-android-data-adb-ubuntu/
[08:19] <B105PH3RE> koen_: that machine ip address appears to wrong or that computer doesn't have a proper connection
[08:20] <B105PH3RE> koen_: your network settings might be wrong on that computer since you cannot ping 192.168.47.129
[08:20] <B105PH3RE> koen_: you don't have a firewall do you? or either ip computers?
[08:20] <koen_> B105PH3RE: no i dont have firewall set
[08:23] <cfoch-always> what is the difference between $HOME/public_html and /var/www ?
[08:23] <B105PH3RE> figure out why you can't ping 192.168.47.129 then you should be able to ssh
[08:24] <Ben66> cfoch-always: they're completely different directories
[08:24] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: if you use $HOME/public it will be locationg under www-data/public I believe or null since the user running it will be www-data if I remember or maybe apache
[08:25] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: it should be a static folder
[08:25] <B105PH3RE> don't use $HOME
[08:26] <cfoch-always> why?
[08:26] <Ben66> cfoch-always: would help if you explained what you're doing
[08:26] <B105PH3RE> it should be static
[08:26] <cfoch-always> For example, I see that shared hostings create a public_html directory
[08:26] <cfoch-always> why do they do that?
[08:27] <TomyWork> certain applications have stopped rendering new text not long after resuming from standby. existing text is still there, but whenever i trigger any kind of refresh in an existing application, it stops displaying text. this happened before and restarting my computer fixed it, but i cannot do that right now as i have applications with important work still open. luckily browsers and the main text areas of kde konsole and xchat still work, but i cant even read
[08:27] <TomyWork> what i'm typing right now :)
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | TomyWork
[08:28] <TomyWork> least of my concerns right now
[08:28] <B105PH3RE> TomyWork: did you try alt tabbing or moving the windows to a new desktop
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: details plz? ubuntu version? updated system? etc?
[08:28] <TomyWork> nope, restarting the application doesnt work either. kubuntu 14.04
[08:29] <TomyWork> updated in the last 2 weeks or so
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: when did it all start to go wrong?
[08:29] <B105PH3RE> i prefer old style irc like weecaht
[08:29] <B105PH3RE> weechat*
[08:30] <Ben66> cfoch-always: because if multiple people are having things hosted on the same computer, it makes sense to have it in the users' home directory
[08:30] <TomyWork> toggling compositing on and off (alt-shift-f12) didnt help :/
[08:31] <B105PH3RE> TomyWork: did you restart your x server but you have to close all applications
[08:31] <TomyWork> B105PH3RE i cannot do that right now, cause that would mean i lose work
[08:31] <B105PH3RE> well then your doomed
[08:31] <B105PH3RE> save your work
[08:31] <B105PH3RE> hotkeys should still work no?
[08:32] <TomyWork> yes, but that work cannot be saved
[08:32] <B105PH3RE> why
[08:32] <TomyWork> it's basically a ton of consoles and such ready to be used
[08:32] <TomyWork> i'll try and see what happens if i standby/resume again
[08:32] <B105PH3RE> you risk crashing
[08:32] <TomyWork> since it started after standby/resume
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: you might wanna consider some system cleaning after next reboot
[08:33] <B105PH3RE> you will crash if you can't refresh ram if you've got lots of stuff running
[08:33] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje what do you mean?
[08:33] <B105PH3RE> you should use tty's instead of x consoles they won't do that to you on resume
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: thats not suppose to be happening like this every time right? try bleachbit and preload to optimize your system
[08:33] <TomyWork> B105PH3RE dont worry, i'll not cut power :)
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: find the bottleneck thats causing it
[08:34] <B105PH3RE> lotuspsychje: is xchat a console irc client?
[08:34] <TomyWork> bottleneck?
[08:34] <TomyWork> i dont have a performance issue
[08:34] <TomyWork> performance is fine
[08:34] <TomyWork> it's just not rendering text
[08:35] <TomyWork> it's all white (or whatever the background color is in that area)
[08:35] <B105PH3RE> no but when you go from standby the ram gets filled with your data from session which sometimes doese always work good
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> B105PH3RE: i use hexchat, gui
[08:36] <B105PH3RE> oh hexchat I thought I saw xchat
[08:36] <TomyWork> bleachbit, that seems to be some windows tool they adapted for linux, no?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | B105PH3RE
[08:36] <TomyWork> not going to use one of those "cleanup" tools
[08:36] <B105PH3RE> i'm on console
[08:36] <B105PH3RE> no gui
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: like you wish, its your system
[08:37] <TomyWork> not without the ability to do snapshots anyway :)
[08:38] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: i was able to get a little better speed with COREPLUS
[08:38] <TomyWork> anyway, goigng to standby
[08:40] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: LANMAN2 works too but haven't tested speeds on it yet
[08:41] <greenco> i have a dell inspiron duo with ubuntu 16.04. havent been able to get a tablet system into it. touch emulator isnt working
[08:41] <B105PH3RE> greenco: its a touchscreen? did you get the device drivers and such
[08:42] <zamba> how do i know if i want a amd64 or a i386 package? 64-bitvs 32-bit?
[08:43] <baymax_> gimme some basic commands to start with xnome irc
[08:43] <greenco> yes its a touchscreen emulator drivers
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> zamba: your system downloads the right architecture packages
[08:43] <zamba> lotuspsychje: i'm downloading a package manually
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> zamba: wich package?
[08:43] <zamba> lotuspsychje: why does that matter?
[08:44] <zamba> lotuspsychje: i have the choice of either amd64 or i386
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> zamba: what architecture is your ubuntu?
[08:44] <zamba> 64-bit
[08:44] <zamba> so i guess i need amd64?
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> zamba: yep
[08:44] <B105PH3RE> besides you want the 64-bit its multiarch
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> zamba: did you check the ubuntu repos for the package you need?
[08:45] <zamba> lotuspsychje: kernel 4.9
[08:46] <B105PH3RE> still only getting low transer rates over samba shares
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> B105PH3RE: try the #samba channel perhaps?
[08:47] <TomyWork> sleep worked, resume didn't
[08:48] <s9iper1> anybody knows how can i change my ubuntu email ?
[08:49] <TomyWork> B105PH3RE you mentioned something about ram getting filled upon resume... my ram usage was fine though. i have 16 gb and didnt even have my usual VM running, so i had plenty to spare
[08:50] <B105PH3RE> ya but your computer dumps your session to hard drive
[08:50] <B105PH3RE> while in stanbdy
[08:50] <B105PH3RE> then loads it back up after you resume it
[08:50] <ducasse> s9iper1: "ubuntu email"?
[08:52] <s9iper1> my email is s9iper1@ubuntu.com
[08:52] <s9iper1> i want to change it to bilal.shahid@ubuntu.com
[08:54] <toothpick> hm got a question regarding ubuntu 16.04 and mysql/openssl - i've created self signed certs. to create a tls connection between mysql server and web server. If i connect through the CLI using mysql -h blabal -p and specifices the path to the ssl certificates within the same line, the connection works and status shows SSL CIPHER in use. However, when i add the certificates to /etc/mysql/my.cnf under [client] i get the following error
[08:54] <ducasse> s9iper1: nothing to do with us, talk to whoever admins email.
[08:54] <toothpick> ... SSL connection error: SSL_CTX_set_default_verify_paths failed*
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> s9iper1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail
[08:55] <s9iper1> ok thanks
[08:55] <s9iper1> lotuspsychje, ducasse
[08:56] <s9iper1> lotuspsychje, its not like changing the launchpad username
[08:56] <s9iper1> i have already done it
[08:56] <s9iper1> but my i can use s9iper1@ubuntu.com cannot bilal.shahid@ubuntu.com
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> s9iper1: perhaps this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[09:00] <telecos> hi?
[09:00] <telecos> hello?
[09:00] <telecos> there's somebody?
[09:00] <telecos> am i alone?
[09:00] <telecos> PLEASE
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> !ask | telecos
[09:00] <telecos> hi lotus
[09:01] <telecos> how r u?
[09:01] <telecos> xd
[09:01] <telecos> cya
[09:12] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: that's better than 1.0
[09:12] <B105PH3RE> well I thought but not anymore its back to usual slow crap
[09:13] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: 3.0 is nice
 ya but your computer dumps your session to hard drive
[09:13] <TomyWork> i thought it only does that in hibernate
[09:13] <B105PH3RE> aren't you going into standby?
[09:13] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: 3.0 is fast as heck
[09:13] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: by comparison
[09:13] <B105PH3RE> I can't use those
[09:13] <roothorick> I'm trying to install nvidia-367 on Ubuntu GNOME, and apt wants to install most of Unity
[09:13] <TomyWork> B105PH3RE i did. it came up with a blank screen and flashing monitor power led.
[09:14] <TomyWork> i.e. no signal
[09:14] <B105PH3RE> thats the same as hibernate
[09:14] <TomyWork> B105PH3RE what
[09:14] <TomyWork> you're not making sense
[09:14] <B105PH3RE> if it power down its hibernating sleeping
[09:14] <TomyWork> hibernate is hibernate and sleep is sleep
[09:14] <TomyWork> and hibernate is not sleep
[09:15] <B105PH3RE> hibernate/sleep same thing
[09:15] <TomyWork> and vice versa
[09:15] <TomyWork> no they're not
[09:15] <roothorick> no they're not
[09:15] <roothorick> hibernate = suspend to disk
[09:15] <roothorick> sleep = suspend to RAM
[09:15] <B105PH3RE> even worse
[09:15] <B105PH3RE> suspending to whatever isn't good your storing your session for reuse and reloading after
[09:16] <B105PH3RE> its rarely perfect
[09:16] <B105PH3RE> in all my years
[09:16] <TomyWork> works for me, usually
[09:16] <mutsy> Goodmorning folks. So I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but I can't get my phone mounted via usb using MTP. My phone settings are correct, I have the packages but still can't connect ... Anyone can help me out here? It does detect it when I check the dmesg output, but it ain't showing when I open "gnome-disks"
[09:16] <TomyWork> works 99.9% of the time
[09:16] <B105PH3RE> when it stats to get big its problamatic
[09:16] <roothorick> I suspect that isn't even related to TomyWork's question
[09:16] <B105PH3RE> how much ram you using for that session when its open and active?
[09:17] <roothorick> but I didn't see it so
[09:17] <TomyWork> it's just that it broke twice within a few days now, in the same vein. now that i think about it, it might have started after the last system update
[09:17] <B105PH3RE> he's got not text on various consoles I guess is what I understand correct TomyWork ?
[09:18] <TomyWork> roothorick after resume from suspend, i got blank text boxes, labels and everything in most applications
[09:18] <TomyWork> kde stuff was still ok (i assume all Qt stuff would be)
[09:18] <TomyWork> and so was the main text area in xchat and chromium
[09:19] <TomyWork> everything else basically had no text anywhere
[09:20] <TomyWork> that included tcl/tk applications like gitk, xchat's input text box and channel switch buttons, oh and contrary to what i said before, some KDE text boxes were affected as well
[09:20] <B105PH3RE> mutsy: my android I have to switch to storage mode for mine to work
[09:21] <TomyWork> roothorick so basically text rendering was broken across the board and the only things that worked were, i suspect, using their own text rendering engines
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: clean your system as i said before, bleachbit, install preload, check your graphics driver version,..
[09:22] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje "preload monitors applications that users run, and by analyzing this data, predicts what applications users might run, and fetches those binaries and their dependencies into memory for faster startup times."
[09:22] <TomyWork> how is that related to my problem at all?
[09:22] <OerHeks> mutsy, is your android unlocked before connecting ?
[09:23] <nx9010> hey all, is it normal with one tab opened in firefox with a flash animation opened to consume 420 MB?? with 234 mb to firefox, 124 mb to Web Content and 60 MB to plugin-player? I have 256 mb physical ram so I don't know what to do
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: you dont know where this bad text rendering comes from, so why not just try it? what do you have to loose?
[09:23] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje 1. time 2. a working system
[09:23] <OerHeks> nx9010, pretty normal yes
[09:24] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje i dont see how this solves anything. i dont even have a problem that this could potentially solve
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: as it is now, your system isnt very workable right
[09:24] <nx9010> OerHeks, weird question, thinking of the Windows alternate, but does Chrome or Chromium perform better on older laptops ?
[09:24] <TomyWork> i have a fast SSD with everything on it, i dont need preloading
[09:24] <gbellinoz> TomyWork / lotuspsychje: I've not heard "cleaning" a system being necessary for linux.  That's a concept from the Windows world.  Your issues sound like graphics card driver issues, but it's a 'who knows'.  You might try a different live distro (no messing with your HD necessary) to see if it suffers the same problem.  If not, then you can start looking at the differences.
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> gbellinoz: in my opinion, bleachbit solved alot of issues here on #ubuntu
[09:25] <nx9010> OerHeks, running in Lubuntu btw, should have said that too I guess?
[09:25] <TomyWork> gbellinoz well i'm not sure if i can reproduce it reliably
[09:25] <B105PH3RE> TomyWork: if it was find before a recent update then there's probably something related to that update
[09:25] <nx9010> I would reallt
[09:25] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje let me put it another way: if these tools solve any part of my problem, ubuntu is fundamentally broken.
[09:26] <nx9010> Sorry, I would really like to minimize the ram usage, even if that means changing to another browser that supports java and flash
[09:26] <MarcoPau> hi, do you know any good app to edit time date (and maybe author) of documents/files in linux? I use touch from command line but you can't do everything with it and I would rather have a small app to manage these things.
[09:26] <MarcoPau> thanks for the hints!
[09:26] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: what window manager are you using kde, gnome, xfce, i3, etc...
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: a 'smooth' system depends on many stuff, ubuntu isnt broken, its the user itself responsible to tweak
[09:27] <nx9010> B105PH3RE, I think Xfce, how can I be sure from the terminal?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: im 100% sure if you clean install kubuntu 14.04.5 your text rendering will be solved
[09:27] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: well its not terminal its your windows manager you use when you login to X server
[09:27] <nx9010> Or should I switch to a smaller linux distribution with a Pentium 4?
[09:28] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: what distro you on now
[09:28] <nx9010> I understand, but I made it auto login, so I am clueless at the moment. Lubuntu
[09:28] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: lubuntu oh ok
[09:28] <B105PH3RE> thats lxde
[09:28] <nx9010> I am fairly new to Ubuntu, tried it several years ago until they applied the netbook interface.
[09:29] <B105PH3RE> you want lightweight on ram usage
[09:29] <DrManhattan> Good morning/evening. I'm having a heck of a time trying to call a very basic script into rc.local
[09:29] <B105PH3RE> xubuntu is a little bit lightly but not much i3 is the lightest
[09:29] <nx9010> lxde is more light than xfce, correct?\
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> nx9010: i had some cases where an old laptop reacts better on xubuntu then lubuntu
[09:30] <B105PH3RE> is think xfce is lighter based on my personal experiences
[09:30] <DrManhattan> I just want to enable write caching on a few of my hard drives in ubuntu 16.04, so I use hdparm, but if I script the sequence of drives instead of making 4 separate hdparm commands, it doesn't work
[09:30] <nx9010> I installed Lubuntu because Xubuntu had really bad performance.
[09:30] <B105PH3RE> if it was worse then... whats the hardware specs?
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> nx9010: it all depends on the machine,
[09:30] <B105PH3RE> i386 arch or 64-bit?
[09:31] <nx9010> i386
[09:31] <nx9010> Is there a way to see specs from the gui? or do I need to use the terminal to list them in Lubuntu?
[09:31] <B105PH3RE> i've got xubuntu on my netbook works good but what video drivers are you using and are you enabling composition?
[09:31] <B105PH3RE> terminals faster
[09:31] <DrManhattan> you know a single line in - something like: for i in {a..d}; do hdparm -W 1 /dev/sd$i; done
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> B105PH3RE: wich card?
[09:32] <DrManhattan> for some reason this doesn't work in rc.local, even if I make it a script and call it
[09:32] <DrManhattan> right on the command line, no problemm
[09:32] <DrManhattan> can anyone tell me what I might be missing?
[09:32] <nx9010> what is the command again to show hardware?
[09:32] <B105PH3RE> lotuspsychje: which card for what i'm not following sorry
 TomyWork: im 100% sure if you clean install kubuntu 14.04.5 your text rendering will be solved
[09:32] <nx9010> lxhw?
[09:33] <DrManhattan> nx9010, lshw or dmidecode usually
[09:33] <nx9010> lshw?\
[09:33] <TomyWork> can you describe how this miracle will work?
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: sure, a used system gets dirty after the user makes it that way, a clean install brushes all the mess
[09:34] <B105PH3RE> lscpu
[09:34] <TomyWork> oh wait, you mean a clean reinstall... yeah that *could* work, but those tools wont do the miracles you claim they do
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: if you dont try, we will never know
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: thats what i would do
[09:35] <PhoenixMage> Hi guys, there are few iscsi packages floating around and I am wondering which one is the most stable for a home lab NAS, integration with the zfs commands would be a plus
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: what shows on your lsb_release -a ?
[09:36] <TomyWork> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> PhoenixMage: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might know more of that
[09:36] <DrManhattan> Or maybe is there an appropriate channel for me to specifically ask questions about rc.local and/or scripting?
[09:36] <nx9010> okay B105PH3RE , these are the specs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24006335/
[09:36] <gbellinoz> lotuspsychje: what exactly gets dirty in a system?
[09:37] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: lshw -short please
[09:37] <nx9010> B105PH3RE, Oh did not know that existed, sure. :)
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> gbellinoz: for example, ive seen systems get rid of old kernel mess, full /boot , unwanted files, history in browsers...all got solved for just installing bleachbit
[09:37] <PhoenixMage> No worries, thanks lotuspsychje
[09:40] <nx9010> B105PH3RE, got it now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24006353/
[09:40] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje i'm managing my old kernels myself, my /boot was never full for reasons other than having too many kernels
[09:41] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: did you install the radeon drivers
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: it was an example, not saying its your case..just trying to widen your options here
[09:41] <nx9010> B105PH3RE, I tried, but I failed with the installer, it told me I did not have a compatible card, I am unsure how to install it correctly.
[09:42] <B105PH3RE> try the additional drivers program
[09:42] <B105PH3RE> see if it comes up there for any options
[09:42] <gbellinoz> none of those things will cause application errors, or even slowness.
[09:42] <gbellinoz> lotuspsychje: ^^
[09:43] <nx9010> Searching for drivers . . .
[09:43] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: sorry what version of lubuntu you running 14.04 or 16.04
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> gbellinoz: if you have bad text rendering on several applications, something is wrong in your system
[09:43] <Linux_Freedom> Yes the Drivers Manager might be an easy way to see if there are Radeon drivers available.
[09:44] <B105PH3RE> if you fix your driver problem i'm sure it would speed things up for you alot
[09:44] <B105PH3RE> the xorg driver tends tow work but I found with ati you need their drivers to get better performance
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> gbellinoz: to find the bottleneck in a system needs a deeper hunt, by several things to try
[09:45] <B105PH3RE> not familar with that particular model though
[09:45] <nx9010> B105PH3RE, how do I see which version I got?
[09:45] <gbellinoz> lotuspsychje: running out of disk space (or swap space) is about the only 'dirty system' thing that might cause that.  but not a big apt cache, lots of kernels, or even lots of things in /tmp.  As far as I know, that's just not how things work.
[09:45] <B105PH3RE> additional drivers should tell you if no options show your running xorg most likely
[09:46] <B105PH3RE> could you send your lspci for particular card
[09:46] <B105PH3RE> video card
[09:46] <B105PH3RE> rs200m
[09:46] <Linux_Freedom> nx9010, type in terminal less /etc/issue
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> gbellinoz: ive been suggesting bleachbit, preload and checking/switching graphics drivers doing these steps could do some magic for many systems
[09:47] <nx9010> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l
[09:48] <B105PH3RE> any news on additional drivers
[09:48] <gbellinoz> That's fine.  The only one of those that isn't an interesting option is bleachbit.  Searching for hardware problems is probably a good route.
[09:48] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje anyway, moving on, unwanted files - That's awfully vagues and if it means what I think it means, I'd rather be the judge of what I want or not. browser history - yeah if that's gone, I'll lose 50% of my productivity for a week or two. Chromium doesn't seem to have any performance issues either.
[09:49] <TomyWork> and yes i am aware that your tools can be used for these 4 purposes, but do not hand them out as a panacea
[09:49] <gaspar> nadie en español
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork, gbellinoz ill rest my case of this dicussion, you clean install kubuntu 14.04 and all your problems are gone, meaning your system is 'dirty'
[09:49] <bazhang> gaspar, #ubuntu-es for spanish please
[09:49] <gbellinoz> lotuspsychje: Put it this way, I've run linux for 18 years, full time, and never 'cleaned' anything, and never needed bleachbit.  logrotate cleans up old logs, /tmp gets cleaned out regularly, automatically (unless you turn of modification times on your file system).  I think even apt cache gets cleaned out automatically.
[09:50] <nx9010> It only shows Unknown : Unknown, Processor microcode firmware for Intel-cpu's from intel-microcode (which is off by default now)
[09:50] <B105PH3RE> i second gbellinoz on that
[09:50] <gbellinoz> lotuspsychje: simply not true.  If a clean install solves it, it could have been corrupt files on disk, or an older version (reinstall will often pull new versions of things, depending on your installer).
[09:50] <tatertots> i've had to help end users clean up a mess after using bleachbit also
[09:50] <OerHeks> nx9010, only ati cards newer than 4xxx are supported, use the driver you have now.
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> gbellinoz: even im an ubuntu fan, its an illusion linux doesnt get dirty
[09:51] <nx9010> It can't even playback a 240p file at the moment though :@
[09:51] <TomyWork> tatertots thanks, that's what i was suspecting as well
[09:51] <nx9010> It could do that with Windows XP
[09:51] <B105PH3RE> how is video performance if its ok then forget the video driver option you could try a difference browser
[09:51] <TomyWork> it's my experience with a lot of those tools on windows
[09:52] <tatertots> just yesterday some guy use bleachbit trying to clear free space....and guess what?....end up with no free space...disk drive %99 full
[09:52] <OerHeks> nx9010, wait a year or 2, and 32 bit is useless too.
[09:52] <B105PH3RE> well it seems to be a video problem to me if you can't do that since your hardware specs seem good enough to do what you want
[09:52] <B105PH3RE> my netbook has similar specs and it runs well
[09:52] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: do you have an xorg.conf file?
[09:52] <nx9010> what is an easy site that has test files so I can see if it runs well?
[09:53] <nx9010> B105PH3RE, I am not even sure what that is.
[09:54] <gbellinoz> another way to look at it (for everybody else interested who didn't leave the room in a huff) is that stock linux machines run for *years* without rebooting.  So suffice it to say that anything that any 'cleaning' is done by the OS.  if bleachbit were necessary, it would be built in :)
[09:54] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: this is installed on the system your not running this live?
[09:54] <nx9010> It should be able to decode DVD's.. did Linux see it as a CD-RW btw?
[09:54] <nx9010> B105PH3RE, No it is installed to the harddisk.
[09:54] <tatertots> nx9010: can you open terminal?
[09:55] <nx9010> Yeah I have one open tatertots
[09:55] <tatertots> nx9010: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[09:55] <tatertots> nx9010: press enter
[09:55] <tatertots> nx9010: let me know when it's done
[09:56] <B105PH3RE> welcome aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:56] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> grumble told me not to troll #freenode any more, so I am looking to pimp bimbos here instead of there
[09:56] <TomyWork> i was wondering why they didnt just kline them :D
[09:57] <B105PH3RE> k lined is what exactly?
[09:57] <nx9010> tatertots, it was already installed and did not have to be upgraded it told me.
[09:57] <tatertots> nx9010: in terminal>       inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[09:58] <tatertots> nx9010: press enter then share the url/link here
[09:59] <nx9010> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24006411/ here you go tatertots
[09:59] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: he already shared his hardware specs
[10:00] <MimTek> Fuck syrian refugees. I hope they fucking dye trying to cross the european border. Fuck them, but their kids, but their women. When that fucking kick died in the mediterranean sea, I almost had an orgasm
[10:00] <MimTek> die
[10:00] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: i wasn't around for that...i'm in and out of this place...i usually only hang around for a few mintues at a time
[10:00] <nx9010> I thought this display was 1280x1024 or something though :(
[10:01] <OerHeks> !ops
[10:01] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: and you'll agree this is much "prettier"
[10:01] <tatertots> and comprehensive
[10:02] <tatertots> nx9010: in terminal>       xrandr|pastebinit
[10:02] <nx9010> is there a a command to see the display stats? at what resolutions it's supposed to work?
[10:02] <tatertots> nx9010: press enter
[10:02] <nx9010> okay let me try
[10:02] <tatertots> nx9010: press enter then share the url/link here
[10:03] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: Ok, ok I have to agree.
[10:03] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: yeah i know
[10:03] <B105PH3RE> he already shared it did you leave in the wake
[10:03] <tatertots> B105PH3RE: everything of importance all concentrated nice neat and pretty in one place
[10:03] <B105PH3RE> at 04-59-06 he posted the link
[10:03] <name10> can someone help me what im doing wrong. I have a remote server connected to my synology NAS over Sftp when i transfere files it only move my files with 13-14 mb sec. i tryed edit lots of setting but nothing helps. then i tryed to set up a webdav server and connected over Https and could now move files with 60 mb sec
[10:03] <nx9010> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24006423/
[10:04] <tatertots> nx9010: in terminal>       cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|egrep "EE"|pastebinit
[10:04] <nx9010> Also, I'm not an he, but I don't mind :)
[10:05] <tatertots> nx9010: no need to reveal gender...it can only lead to bad things an trouble...trust me ;)
[10:05] <OerHeks> tatertots, he has got a single core, 256 mb and an ancient gpu .. no wonder that simple movies won't play
[10:06] <tatertots> OerHeks: haven't seen a p4 in ages lol
[10:06] <OerHeks> tatertots, in 2 years they are all useless.
[10:06] <tatertots> nx9010: in terminal>       cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|egrep "EE"|pastebinit
[10:06] <tatertots> nx9010: press enter then share the url/link here
[10:07] <tatertots> nx9010: if you do not get a url/link speak up and say so
[10:07] <B105PH3RE> ya buts its a 2.8ghz and he's got a radeon card should have no problems watching movies or surfing the web
[10:07] <nx9010> Yeah it's not my main machine. I have a 3770k with an XSPC watercooler and a 970 GTX, but this is my old laptop..
[10:07] <B105PH3RE> tatertots: go easy lad
[10:08] <ducasse> tatertots: why grab all this info? the problem is pretty obvious.
[10:08] <tatertots> it's still a free country isn't it?
[10:08] <nx9010> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24006434/
[10:08] <ducasse> tatertots: depends where you are.
[10:09] <tatertots> name10 needs some help...
[10:09] <bazhang> lets all be civil here please
[10:09] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:10] <silv3r_m00n> how do i install a previous version of the nvidia driver ?
[10:10] <tatertots> nx9010: looks like 1024x768 is as good as it gets for your configuration
[10:11] <B105PH3RE> nx9010: are you able todo glxgears in console
[10:11] <B105PH3RE> you may need to install it
[10:11] <nx9010> I don't understand how with windows it ran in a higher resolution.. afaik
[10:11] <name10> Tatertots: yes i will be very happy if someone can help :-)
[10:11] <OerHeks> nx9010, but xp is dead, get over it.
[10:12] <B105PH3RE> i believe you have a video driver or something not setup right my netbook is similar works great for what you are trying to do
[10:13] <OerHeks> B105PH3RE, lets stop this useless determination of ancient hardware.
[10:13] <nx9010> OerHeks, very informative information.. Some people have it running with customised security for certain purposes. I am just trying to min/max here with old gear that used to be able to even play certain 720p files, but please, no one hurt Linux where you dont understand hm?
[10:14] <B105PH3RE> OerHeks: hardware is never useless if it works
[10:14] <nx9010> Don't hurt the demi-god. lmao. When I say things ran with the right codecs in XP it did, are you saying Lubuntu is supposed to be heavier than XP?
[10:15] <bazhang> nx9010, whats the ram
[10:16] <tatertots> bazhang: this is nx9010 http://paste.ubuntu.com/24006423/
[10:16] <bazhang> was it below 512mb
[10:17] <nx9010> 256 MB physical ram
[10:17] <tatertots> bazhang: typo correction... this is nx9010  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24006411/
[10:17] <bazhang> nx9010, and the card is ancient R200M
[10:18] <bazhang> nx9010, other than a minimal server
[10:18] <bazhang> nx9010, you are never going to get full HD on that
[10:19] <name10> can someone help me what im doing wrong. I have a remote server connected to my synology NAS over Sftp when i transfere files it only move my files with 13-14 mb sec. i tryed edit lots of setting but nothing helps. then i tryed to set up a webdav server and connected over Https and could now move files with 60 mb sec
[10:21] <TomyWork> name10 have you tried scp instead of sftp?
[10:21] <TomyWork> sftp isnt a terribly efficient protocol
[10:21] <rt_ctx> name10 or rsync ?
[10:21] <Ben64> TomyWork: whats the difference between scp and sftp
[10:22] <tatertots> lol
[10:22] <TomyWork> try scp first, it's more basic
[10:22] <rt_ctx> scp id based on ssh
[10:22] <rt_ctx> is
[10:22] <TomyWork> Ben64 they're different protocols, both tunnelled through an ssh connection
[10:22] <TomyWork> rt_ctx  ^
[10:22] <name10> have not tryed scp. Will give it a try :-)
[10:22] <vlt> Hello. On Ubuntu 16.04 I installed ubuntu-mate-desktop, language-pack-de and libreoffice-l10n-de. What else do I need to get German versions of programs like inkscape? Is there a meta package I can install?
[10:25] <OerHeks> vlt, according to their page, german translations 0% > https://inkscape.org/en/doc/devel/translations-statistics-092.html
[10:26] <valbr> hi all :)
[10:26] <valbr> Is there a possibility to make a fan profile for a 3 pin fan
[10:26] <valbr> fancontrol does it for a PWM fan, but not a 3 pin fan. can it be done with a 3 pin fan too?
[10:26] <name10> TomyWork: You cant mount a drive in fstab with scp ?
[10:26] <TomyWork> name10 yes, that's what sshfs does
[10:27] <TomyWork> oh wait
[10:27] <TomyWork> nope, sshfs uses sftp, according to the manpage
[10:27] <name10> ahh then scp will not work for me :-(
[10:28] <TomyWork> name10 doesnt that nas support nfs?
[10:28] <zamba> today's lesson: 'last | reboot' is NOT the same as 'last | grep reboot'
[10:28] <TomyWork> zamba not quite, no :)
[10:29] <zamba> i learned that the hard way :)
[10:31] <sveinse> How do I empty the trash on removable devices on gnome shell? (16.04) I've found the trash-can icon and selected "Empty", but it does not wipe the trash on the mounted removable device...
[10:31] <sveinse> Of course I can do this from shell and remove the .Trash-* directory, but that is beside the point
[10:32] <k1l_> the trash is a gui thing. not a cli thing
[10:33] <name10> Tomywork: No sorry :-(
[10:33] <TomyWork> CIFS? :)
[10:33] <TomyWork> (i.e. windows shares)
[10:34] <TomyWork> name10 are you sure? i have once heard someone describe their nas as a "synology nas" and they're using NFS to mount it
[10:34] <sveinse> k1l_: yes, and gnome files behaves that way when you press delete on a directory in folder view. A pity if you can't really delete them from the same interface...
[10:35] <rt_ctx> Yes you can make NFS with synology. You need to set NFS right.
[10:36] <nx9010> bazhang, running  a server on a laptop would feel kinda weird haha
[10:36] <bazhang> nx9010, thats the best you will get with that ancient low ram machine
[10:36] <name10> Tomywork it does have it. but if folder is encrypted and for some reason synology does not supports NFS on encrypted folder
[10:36] <name10> s
[10:37] <nx9010> bazhang, forcing firefox to use Flash now on Youtube because maybe its a cpu bottleneck..
[10:39] <OerHeks> flash is dead anyway, firefox and chrome use html5 and block flash by default.
[10:40] <brunch875> About damn time. Flash is to be despised
[10:41] <OerHeks> brunch875, they still try, got an update recently
[10:41] <brunch875> but _why_
[10:46] <skits> Need advice:  Thinking of spinning up a server primarily for dns(tired of isp redirects)  is it worthwhile to do this and effective using a ubuntu server?.
[10:49] <name10> TomyWork: you there ? :-)
[10:51] <PharaohSD> hi guys
[10:51] <PharaohSD> need some help with docky
[10:52] <snowweb> guys whats up
[10:52] <snowweb> i have a problem, i forgot my firefox master password
[10:52] <B105PH3RE> snow
[10:52] <B105PH3RE> lots of frigin snow
[10:52] <snowweb> and i cant access my saved credentials , can anybody help me?
[10:53] <B105PH3RE> and you need to keep firefox data? bookmarks i'm assuming
[10:53] <PharaohSD> anyone able to help me with docky?
[10:54] <snowweb> B105PH3R3: yeah i do
[10:55] <snowweb> how can i recover my credentials?
[10:55] <PharaohSD> anyone can help me, i have 2 docks, just insalled docky and want to remove the old one(original dock), any help
[10:56] <PharaohSD> anyone can help me, i have 2 docks, just insalled docky and want to remove the old one(original dock), any help
[10:56] <PharaohSD> ^^^
[10:59] <PharaohSD> anyone can help me, i have 2 docks, just insalled docky and want to remove the old one(original dock), any help
[10:59] <B105PH3RE> snowweb: Well if you forgot the password you need to remmeber or your done for
[10:59] <snowweb> really???
[11:00] <ikevin> PharaohSD, don't ask every minuts, just wait for a reply
[11:00] <PharaohSD> ok
[11:00] <snowweb>  sad face (`-')
[11:04] <TomyWork> snowweb any recovery mechanism would defeat the purpose of a password in the first place
[11:04] <koleygr> snowweb: if you have a multiboot system or other pcs with firefox you can take from there some files to set them in your new firefox
[11:05] <TomyWork> he'd still need to remember his password :)
[11:05] <B105PH3RE> thats why you don't forget the master/root password
[11:06] <B105PH3RE> plus you should change its every 3mths
[11:07] <PharaohSD> any help with docky??
[11:07] <name10> Tomywork: Will webdav have the save security ?. I cant find a way to use NFS because nfs dont work on encrypted folders on Synology. And my work has a policy about telling data has to be encrypted
[11:08] <zamba> anyone experimented with the BRR patch to the 4.9 kernel?
[11:08] <name10> save?same
[11:08] <name10> save = same
[11:10] <danieldu> join #Devices-Sprint
[11:11] <PharaohSD> ikevin: no help yet <<-<<
[11:12] <ikevin> PharaohSD, because nobody have a solution for you atm
[11:12] <PharaohSD> can u help?
[11:13] <ikevin> not sure, so, if i correctly understand, you would to remove unity defaut dock?
[11:13] <k1l_> PharaohSD: you mean the unity launcher bar?
[11:13] <PharaohSD> yes
[11:13] <B105PH3RE> PharaohSD: all you need todo if find out the package name of the old one and uninstall it
[11:13] <ikevin> not sure it's possible
[11:13] <k1l_> you cant remove it. you can make that to the bottom, or make it hide. but not remove it
[11:13] <ikevin> or use another DE
[11:13] <PharaohSD> but then how is the new docky ones loaded without
[11:14] <PharaohSD> i have both and want only 1
[11:14] <k1l_> then use another desktop
[11:14] <ikevin> like use ratpoison and load docky
[11:14] <Nio_O> how i can find out how i`ve grafic manager (KDE, GNOME, unity] ?
[11:15] <B105PH3RE> Nio_O: you find out which graphic manager your using?
[11:15] <k1l_> Nio_O: by looking at it?
[11:16] <Animanera> ciao
[11:16] <Nio_O> I dont know it
[11:16] <Animanera> ?
[11:16] <Animanera> !list
[11:16] <Animanera> !list
[11:17] <Animanera> ciaooooo
[11:17] <elias_a_> What is the problem with italians.... :D
[11:17] <B105PH3RE> sorry I don't speak that language
[11:17] <Animanera> io parlo italiano
[11:17] <k1l_> !it | Animanera
[11:17] <Animanera> come si scarica xD
[11:17] <Nio_O> ciao ?
[11:18] <TomyWork> in italian, unlike in every other language, ciao, means hello
[11:18] <B105PH3RE> oh i thought he was saying goodbye?
[11:19] <B105PH3RE> or she sorry...
[11:19] <TomyWork> no, italian has it that meaning backwards :)
[11:19] <Nio_O> nice, i know 1 word of italian, .. ciao xD
[11:19] <B105PH3RE> ditto
[11:19] <TomyWork> dude
[11:20] <TomyWork> ditto is italian too
[11:20] <B105PH3RE> really what does that mean?
[11:20] <TomyWork> bleh, use the internet
[11:21] <OerHeks> Nio_O, " echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " if it give ubuntu, you have unity. the others are clear ( kde/gnome)
[11:21] <anddam> TomyWork: it's more likely ditto is from Latin
[11:22] <OerHeks> Nio_O, oh wait, this one is better > echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[11:22] <PharaohSD> B105PH3RE: & k1l_ ijust want the docky bar instead of the old gnome one
[11:22] <PharaohSD> (srry got busy_
[11:22] <OerHeks> PharaohSD, go into systemsettings > appearance > set autohide
[11:23] <TomyWork> anddam maybe more likely, but still wrong :) https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ditto
[11:23] <anddam> TomyWork: but not an Italian word  by any mean
[11:23] <Nio_O> i`ve unity, ty :)
[11:23] <Nio_O> gnome is better right ? :D
[11:23] <k1l_> PharaohSD: "old gnome one"? what ubuntu and desktop do you use?
[11:23] <capsloth> I have a simple udev rules that is not working.. can someone help me with it? http://pastebin.com/4pzcPetZ
[11:24] <PharaohSD> ub 16.10
[11:24] <PharaohSD> original desktop
[11:24] <k1l_> PharaohSD: so its not the old gnome one.
[11:24] <k1l_> PharaohSD: its the unity launcher
[11:24] <k1l_> and i already told you your options
[11:24] <PharaohSD> yes, how to remove the unity lancher?
[11:25] <itsgokul> failed to fetch libmysqlclient-dev_5.1.73-0ubuntu0.10.04.1_i386.deb
[11:25] <k1l_> you cant. i told you what you can do
[11:25] <itsgokul> help
[11:25] <k1l_> itsgokul: 10.04 is dead. dont use that anymore
[11:25] <itsgokul> ubutnu 13.10
[11:25] <PharaohSD> fixed it myself
[11:25] <k1l_> itsgokul: ubuntu 13.10 is even worse.
[11:25] <itsgokul> when i do apt-get install libmysqlclient-dev
[11:26] <PharaohSD> thanks friends
[11:26] <Nio_O> how name is right for the system (gnome, unity, kde) ... ?
[11:26] <PharaohSD> k1l_:  fixed!
[11:28] <Nio_O> desktop system or how ? :D
[11:29] <k1l_> itsgokul: only systems that do still have support are 12.04 (just few weeks), 14.04, 16.04 and 16.10
[11:30] <B105PH3RE> PharaohSD: btw you can use unity-2d which does have the dock thingy
[11:30] <k1l_> itsgokul: if you run older ubuntus or other out of support releases you want to make a clean reinstall in most cases
[11:32] <itsgokul> ubuntu 13 released in 2013 support closed?
[11:32] <gautham> A question about Byobu - the docs claim it is fully compatible with GNU Screen. However, I'm not able to scroll up the buffer by doing C-a Esc and then using the arrow keys. Is this unsupported? If it is supported, how do I enable it?
[11:33] <k1l_> !13.10
[11:33] <k1l_> itsgokul: see the bots message
[11:33] <OerHeks> B105PH3RE, Ubuntu-2d has been discontinued starting from 12.10
[11:33] <B105PH3RE> oh
[11:33] <B105PH3RE> i tried
[11:33] <B105PH3RE> i don't use unity so
[11:34] <itsgokul> but why remove files from server
[11:34] <k1l_> itsgokul: because its dead since 3 years
[11:35] <OerHeks> serverspace = money
[11:35] <k1l_> itsgokul: dont blame others because you run outdated OS. you should try to upgrade to 14.04
[11:35] <B105PH3RE> always go with LTS
[11:35] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | itsgokul
[11:36] <gautham> itsgokul, LTS releases arrive every 2nd year - 12.04, 14.04, 16.04 and sometime away, 18.04. Other releases get about as much time as a human zygote before it pops out as a baby (9 months).
[11:38] <Xundres> if you don't like unity try changing DE
[11:39] <Xundres> or just use classic gnome
[11:48] <eso4g1> ola
[11:48] <eso4g1_> o
[11:48] <eso4g1_> fff
[11:48] <eso4g1_> fff
[11:48] <eso4g1_> fff
[11:48] <eso4g1_> fff
[11:51] <elias_a_> How does one install the VirtualBox Extension Pack downloaded from Ubuntu repos in .iso format?
[11:52] <ikevin> elias_a_, the .iso file is the guest extension pack
[11:52] <k1l_> elias_a_: you install the package with apt from the repos
[11:53] <ikevin> you need to load it as a cdrom device
[11:53] <k1l_> elias_a_: are you mixing guest additions with extension pack?
[11:54] <elias_a_> k1l_: I don't think so. I just don't remember how to load it.
[11:54] <k1l_> elias_a_: the extensions pack is for the host OS and you dont install it as iso
[11:54] <elias_a_> k1l_: Ok. Let's see...
[11:54] <k1l_> the guest additions are for the guest inside the vbox and that is installed form the vbox menu
[11:54] <ideapad> ayy
[11:55] <ideapad> irssi bretty good
[11:55] <elias_a_> k1l_: Well, seems I mixed them up. :)
[11:55] <elias_a_> ty
[11:57] <elias_a_> It is funny how youtube is full of videos where people manually download the ext-pack when there is a metapackage for that...
[11:58] <k1l_> yes, youtube is not a good resource for support.
[12:17] <quem_> damn system won't load the command i put in /etc/rc.local. driving me nuts.
[12:18] <quem_> everything that is set executable right, and has the right permissions.
[12:19] <ducasse> quem_: what command(s) did you put there?
[12:20] <OerHeks> quem_, 16.04?
[12:20] <quem_> OerHeks: indeed
[12:21] <OerHeks> Ubuntu is now using systemd, and rc.local is now considered a service which is turned "off" by default http://askubuntu.com/a/770033/395498 see here how to turn it back on .
[12:21] <quem_> ducasse: su -l frc -c "/home/frc/startirssi.sh"
[12:21] <quem_> yeah, i turned it on.
[12:24] <ducasse> quem_: if that runs irssi in screen/tmux or something like that, a better way would be a systemd user service
[12:38] <vlt> OerHeks: That's strange. I'm using inkscape right now on 12.04. In German.
[12:40] <secureOS> hehe
[12:41] <OerHeks> vlt, oops i read that stats wrong
[12:42] <vlt> OerHeks: :D  That's 0% _un_translated.
[12:45] <Vamp898> Hi there. I added the gnome3 and gnome3-next repository to check out the new GNOME3. Turns out that, for whatever reason, after doing that upgrade, GDM and GNOME only show on my secondary screen, primary screen gets ignored. Unity/Lightdm still work fine though. So i decided to use ppa-purge to remove them both in the order suggested which worked. The old Versions of GNOME are now installed, but still GDM and GNOME only show on my s
[12:48] <secureOS> hi all
[12:59] <liveiso> any one here?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:00] <liveiso> @irc council
[13:01] <cfhowlett> this is not the irdc council channel liveiso.  please read the topic
[13:01] <quem_> dustinm`: do you know a good quick guide to learn that? :P and why oh why do they have to change things? things were fine the way they were! :D
[13:02] <Alexa> Guys, I get returned back to login screen after I login (and even when I try to use guest account). This problem happened when I installed AMDGPU-PRO driver.
[13:02] <secureOS> quem_: Maybe u put upgrade:P
[13:02] <liveiso> hi cfhowlett, I wanna know does Debian Live systems manual has an ubuntu version?
[13:02] <livcd> I have an issue with pam_mkhomedir it's not creating home directories + i do not see any info in the logs (syslog + auth etc)
[13:02] <cfhowlett> liveiso, for debian support, ask #debian.
[13:02] <liveiso> ubuntu support
[13:02] <liveiso> https://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-manual/stable/manual/html/live-manual.en.html
[13:03] <Alexa> This is my Xorg.0.log -- paste.ubuntu.com/24007123/
[13:03] <cfhowlett> !manual | liveiso,
[13:03] <liveiso> looking for the ubuntu version of the manual
[13:03] <hitman1> What is socket ?
[13:03] <cfhowlett> liveiso, and I just sent it to you
[13:03] <hitman1> If I am sending a request to a server what is the role of a socket there ?
[13:03] <CrazyTux> hello, which is the most intuitive DE available for Ubuntu?
[13:03] <cfhowlett> liveiso, wait 1
[13:04] <vlt> Hello. In Firefox on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS I get distorted menus and sometimes dropdown select elements: http://imgur.com/gQDNkhv  Any idea how to fix this?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> CrazyTux, please stop this. you are trolling with repeatedly asked questions
[13:05] <liveiso> @ubottu, hi, just want to learn advanced skill, I wanna create live iso from source code, like ubuntu daily build
[13:05] <elias_a_> If I install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso using apt-get where will it be downloaded? Do I have to enable it manually?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> elias_a_, download it then launch it.  it will trigger virtualbox for the installation
[13:06] <OerHeks> liveiso, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[13:06] <eil> launch virtualbox additions  in the guest os.
[13:07] <liveiso> @OerHeks, Hi, I just need the manual , I will do it myself
[13:07] <Alexa> Is anyone willing to help me? I'm stuck on using irssi in terminal in tty :(
[13:07] <elias_a_> cfhowlett: I do not know what to launch as apt-get does something and I don't understand what it is exactly.
[13:07] <elias_a_> cfhowlett: Where should the executable be?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> elias_a_, apt-get will NOT get the additions.  download that from the oracle sitge
[13:08] <hateball> Alexa: so remove amdgpu-pro if isnt working properly. did you check that it even supports your chipset?
[13:08] <elias_a_> cfhowlett: Ok. Thanks.
[13:08] <Alexa> hateball: it does support.
[13:08] <elias_a_> cfhowlett: I guess this is outdated then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/GuestAdditions
[13:09] <Alexa> hateball: without it, everything is extremently slow in matter of graphics.
[13:09] <Alexa> It's like as if I were using pentium 2
[13:09] <liveiso> How ubuntu official ISO are build? any documents for that?
[13:09] <cfhowlett> elias_a_, I've only ever dl'd directly.  let me experiment
[13:10] <OerHeks> liveiso, there is a manual, not recent ( with systemd) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[13:10] <liveiso> @OerHerks thanks
[13:10] <eil> sudo sh ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run in guest os.first mount it.
[13:10] <liveiso> Customization is modify an existing iso
[13:11] <OerHeks> liveiso, you need experienced skills, if you had that you would have found this page i guess
[13:11] <elias_a_> cfhowlett: IMHO it should do the trick but I cannot find the ISO file anywhere....
[13:11] <liveiso> But I want to know how official daily ISO are build
[13:12] <cfhowlett> elias_a_, outdated indeed.  launch vbox and then go to the menu for install guest additions
[13:12] <liveiso> Does anyone know the process of creating official daily ISO?
[13:12] <elias_a_> cfhowlett: Will do. Thank you!
[13:13] <cfhowlett> elias_a_, that would be the vbox menu > devices > Install Guest Additions CD image
[13:14] <OerHeks> liveiso, maybe the guys in  #ubuntu-devel can help you out
[13:14] <eil>  that would be the vbox menu > devices > Install Guest Additions CD image then install guest additions in guest os
[13:14] <liveiso> got it
[13:14] <liveiso> thanks
[13:14] <alexa> I have temporarily removed amdgpu-pro driver just to get visual back
[13:15] <alexa> not only that everything is slo-mo, but it doesn't recognize 1440x900 resolution. Instead I get 1024x768.
[13:16] <secureOS> alexa: u can have steel updated version becose companies secure update too
[13:16] <hateball> alexa: are you on 16.04 or 16.10 ?
[13:16] <alexa> secureOS, sorry, I didn't understand you.
[13:16] <OerHeks> alexa, for what amd gpu?
[13:17] <alexa> it's 16.04
[13:17] <alexa> it's for Amd rx 480
[13:17] <alexa> suported :)
[13:17] <alexa> *supported
[13:17] <hateball> alexa: There's a PPA for AMD stuff that might work better but I am an nvidia guy myself so...
[13:18] <hateball> alexa: Is it supported on the kernel you're using tho, or does it require newer stuff? likewise xorg itself
[13:18] <secureOS> and if i say u somebody can update yours bios then producent updated old version too
[13:18] <alexa> it wouldn't be problem for me to switch to 16.10, however, on official website, AMD stated that Ubuntu 16.04 is supported.
[13:18] <akik> secureOS: you're not making too much sense. could you rephrase?
[13:19] <hateball> alexa: anyhow, this is a !PPA and as such not supported... but I think this is what is commonly used by AMD users https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa
[13:19] <alexa> hateball, I don't know. During the installation it kind of implements some modules in it, and installs around 400 MB of new stuff, but I don't know.
[13:20] <secureOS> i must go, next time:)
[13:20] <secureOS> cya
[13:20] <alexa> hateball, and what package am I looking for_
[13:20] <akik> huh that was weird
[13:20] <alexa> ?
[13:20] <hateball> alexa: mesa
[13:21] <alexa> Beside that? So, I should install mesa, and reinstall amdgpu-pro, right?
[13:21] <hateball> alexa: this only updates amdgpu, amdgpu-pro is different
[13:21] <alexa> another dude had no luck http://askubuntu.com/questions/856560/ubuntu-16-04-rx-480
[13:21] <OerHeks> alexa https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa but be carefull, ppa is not supported here, you are on your own
[13:21] <alexa> OerHeks, ok, thank you
[13:22] <redmage123> Hi, I have a question about using an ubuntu container with docker.
[13:23] <redmage123> I'm trying to create an ubuntu container that has full internet access.  I'm unable to do so, partly because the ubuntu container build lacks any of the network utilities.
[13:23] <redmage123> Has anyone done this?
[13:23] <redmage123> Create an ubuntu docker container with full net access?
[13:25] <OerHeks> redmage123, if you don't find an answer here, there is also #docker here on #freenode
[13:26] <alexa> OerHeks, I've successfully added the ppa you gave me, but even though, mesa package couldn't be found (I have run sudo apt-get update)
[13:27] <secureOS> redmage123: u have many libs for create docker on X11, add API and done:)
[13:29] <alexa> E: Unable to locate package mesa
[13:30] <OerHeks> alexa, it was worth the try, remove it with ppapurge
[13:30] <redmage123> Derheks:  I've already asked on docker.
[13:31] <redmage123> So far no luck.
[13:31] <redmage123> secureOS:  The platform is a digital ocean droplet i.e. a cloud server.  I have no X11 access.
[13:33] <secureOS> redmage123: i don't know is work in new version, i also adapted:)
[13:34] <secureOS> but i see worst system changed
[13:34] <redmage123> secureOS:  I'm not sure what you mean.
[13:35] <secureOS> simple unofficial version with personal configured, update broke many libs
[13:49] <Druid05> Hello, i created a user with sftp+chroot only, is possible to bind a external directory to this chroot? ( i know symlinks not working )
[13:50] <knemon> I made a bootable usb disk with rufus and when it boots from the usb disk I see the options to try or install ubuntu. no matter what I click, it does something for 1 - 2 seconds and then nothing, black screen
[13:50] <knemon> how can I fix it?
[13:50] <royal_screwup21> How do I open up a virtual environment via the terminal?
[13:50] <knemon> I am trying to install it on HP laptop
[13:51] <cfhowlett> knemon, could be a bad .iso or a bad usb.  md5sum to verify
[13:53] <OerHeks> knemon, check the iso ( cfhowlett +1) if that is oke, then try nomodeset
[13:53] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[13:54] <knemon> I dont understand
[13:54] <knemon> where do I type these commands OerHeks
[13:56] <cfhowlett> knemon, read the link:  /msg ubottu nomodeset
[13:57] <ioria> knemon, at bottom of the screen you have Options : press F6 and pick 'nomodeset'
[14:12] <mustmodify__> I have a mystery. I have a windows machine sitting right next to an ubuntu machine. I use Putty to keep several terminal windows open to the Ubuntu machine, where I do all my dev work. Typically these windows stay open for days or weeks. Over the last week, most times I return to the desk, I see an error message from Putty. "Network error: Software caused connection abort." Any thoughts about what might have changed to cause this?
[14:14] <OerHeks> mustmodify__, check windows log? not sure there are any ..
[14:14] <mustmodify__> or how I could diagnose this issue? The two machines connect to a router in my office, which then connects to our main home router.
[14:15] <mustmodify__> there are logs. They're decent. Not as simply-thought-out as Ubuntu's, though. Everything must be complicated. :)
[14:15] <mustmodify__> sorry, "enterprisey."
[14:17] <bismark> hello, I have windows installed and my partitions are encrypted with bitlocker, could i delete all my partitions from ubuntu installer and to encrypt it again with luks?
[14:23] <OerHeks> bismark, sure, use 'use entire disc' as install option, then later you can choose encrypted lvm+luks
[14:25] <secureOS> autorization is suck now
[14:25] <OerHeks> how helpfull, secureOS
[14:26] <secureOS> when i whant power on my laptop and simple check e-mail i must write 5 time diffrent password:/
[14:27] <secureOS> all becose system is mingled system files and users private files and extended files and user config files
[14:28] <secureOS> they can't correct work 10-20 years
[14:28] <OerHeks> do you have an ubuntu support question?? or is it just a  monoloque?
[14:29] <secureOS> ex. some libs codings 200-300 coders for 10 years
[14:30] <secureOS> OerHeks: Nobody else talk, u have limit to char?
[14:31] <OerHeks> secureOS, this is ubuntu support, even there is no actual problem going round, your random sentences belong to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:32] <secureOS> i have a problem!
[14:33] <secureOS> i have 5 server on ubuntu with 4.62 kernel
[14:33] <secureOS> and oracle dont whant cooparate to some old libs and i'm stuck
[14:35] <OerHeks> kernel 4.62 comes out in 2020
[14:35] <secureOS> or faster;)
[14:35] <OerHeks> so what can we do about that?
[14:35] <secureOS> i don't know i think this is Ubunut channel:P
[14:36] <secureOS> i was hoping for help
[14:36] <ducasse> oracle software is nothing to do with us
[14:37] <secureOS> good attiude..
[14:37] <ducasse> _oracle_ supports oracle software
[14:38] <OerHeks> maybe oracle is dead by 2020 .. please join #ubuntu-offtopic for this nonsence
[14:38] <CrazyTux> hello, I am using Xubuntu 16.10. Can anyone here guide me in installing Ubuntu Mate Desktop over it?
[14:38] <secureOS> ok, thx
[14:38] <ikonia> CrazyTux: please stop this
[14:38] <secureOS> CrazyTux: true
[14:38] <ikonia> CrazyTux: you are doing this every single day, install $ubuntu, and replace desktop with $different-ubuntu
[14:39] <ikonia> pick a desktop, use that distro,
[14:39] <isthakur> hello every one. I am new here I need help regarding configuring my web server (LAMP) to run some ERP softwares
[14:39] <ikonia> and installing a desktop is the same as the 10 other times you've done it, you open the package manager and install the desktop meta package
[14:39] <CrazyTux> my laptop is used by three of my friends. They keep changing it according to their preferences.
[14:40] <CrazyTux> ikonia, ok. I got it.
[14:40] <ikonia> you keep changing it
[14:40] <ikonia> not them
[14:40] <ikonia> it's the same question every single day
[14:40] <ikonia> "is desktop X better than Y" - "how do I install it"
[14:41] <CrazyTux> I am a bit confused in using the terminal and commands.
[14:41] <ikonia> then don't
[14:41] <ikonia> use the gui
[14:41] <CrazyTux> ok.
[14:41] <OerHeks> isthakur, you might want to join #ubuntu-server for ERP/CRM help
[14:43] <CrazyTux> could you please confirm the instructions give on this site are correct? for 16.10.  http://www.tecmint.com/install-mate-desktop-in-ubuntu-fedora/
[14:43] <ikonia> CrazyTux: no
[14:43] <ikonia> CrazyTux: I've just told you what to do, open the package manager, install the desktop package you want
[14:44] <ikonia> I'm not validating third party URL's for you
[14:46] <CrazyTux> mate desktop environment (metapackage). Is that correct?
[14:47] <ikonia> look up that package and what it does
[14:48] <CrazyTux> ok
[14:48] <mustmodify> ok, I just got a clue.
[14:48] <mustmodify> My whole windows machine lost internet for like ... 15 seconds and all three windows went down.
[14:48] <mustmodify> I mean, all three Putty SSH connections dropped with the error message I mentioned.
[14:49] <CrazyTux> thanks a lot.
[14:49] <mustmodify> So now the question is whether it was a hardware issue or whether it was upstream from me.
[14:49] <mustmodify> but it seems like if it was my ISP or whatever, I would have kept a connection to a machine that's local.
[14:51] <OerHeks> mustmodify, maybe a small powerdip? router reboots, pc's stay up?
[14:51] <mustmodify> OerHeks: I guess it's possible, but I think both routers and both machines are on UPSs.
[14:52] <mustmodify> If the UPS was going bad, that might explain it, I guess.
[14:52] <mustmodify> Let me cycle the router and see if that does it.
[14:52] <OerHeks> just a wild thought, hard to say what went wrong, without logs
[14:53] <mustmodify> interesting. Unplugged and replugged it and everything is ok.
[14:53] <ducasse> mustmodify: at least with openssh you can increase the timeout, probably putty as well.
[14:53] <mustmodify> I don't think it's a timeout.
[14:54] <mustmodify> because the original outage was very short.
[14:54] <mustmodify> yeah, I guess I'll be digging through the logs.
[14:56] <isthakur> Thank you OerHeks
[15:05] <pavlos> ron__, did you fix the network issue from last night?
[15:06] <ron__> pavlos, it is not me :p
[15:06] <pavlos> ron__, sorry, similar nick
[15:07] <walteru> welcome
[15:10] <ar_sahito> how do I set gnome as my default de?
[15:11] <ar_sahito> I am currently using kubuntu?
[15:11] <OerHeks> ar_sahito, logout, select de , login ??
[15:12] <ar_sahito> OerHeks: I don't want myself to do it again and again that's why I was thinking of setting it as default.
[15:14] <ducasse> ar_sahito: it should keep last selected as default
[15:14] <ducasse> ar_sahito: maybe sddm is different, you could try switching to lightdm or gdm
[15:14] <OerHeks> I thought the default session is simply the last one you choose
[15:15] <ducasse> ^^
[15:17] <OerHeks> not sure which one, but you can reorganize DE: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm / sdm / sddm
[15:20] <jdeen> I am interested in having a EPUB or MOBI printer. You know we have these "PDF Printers" we can print documents in to.. some thing like that but to print MOBI or EPUB.. any such that is available? After many google searches thoght of pinging the IRC...
[15:22] <OerHeks> jdeen, calibre can read them, maybe printing too?
[15:22] <OerHeks> !info calibre
[15:23] <OerHeks> Supported input formats are: MOBI, LIT, PRC, EPUB, ODT, HTML, CBR, CBZ, RTF, TXT, PDF and LRS.
[15:25] <viral_mutant> I noticed that some service files in systemd have /bin/true for ExecStart/Stop
[15:25] <viral_mutant> what does that mean ?
[15:27] <ikonia> it does nothing
[15:27] <viral_mutant> ikonia: Oh , I didn’t expect that :)
[15:28] <viral_mutant> I am particularly looking in postgresql.service and postgresql@.service files
[15:28] <viral_mutant> the .service has /bin/true
[15:28] <viral_mutant> and @.service has the actual binary
[15:28] <CrazySane> viral_mutant: /bin/true and /bin/false are used when you want a boolean value but something will only take a command as an arg
[15:29] <CrazySane> viral_mutant:  /bin/true always returns 0 (e.gg no error) and /bin/false always returns non-zero (error)
[15:29] <viral_mutant> but systemctl start postgresql.service works too ?
[15:29] <qwr>  #bountysource
[15:30] <viral_mutant> and it still starts the postgresql server ?
[15:33] <viral_mutant> crazysane: I am wondering how ExecStart=/bin/true is able to start the service
[15:37] <ppf> blind guess: WantedBy= dependencies
[15:46] <stanstill> a second computer I got: it cannot make a connection to a log in page at college, but I can access internet at home... ubuntu 16.10
[15:49] <Zewwy> how can I search for two different keywords using apt search?
[15:49] <Zewwy> or apt-cache search Keyword1 Keyword2
[15:50] <Zewwy> lol nm that worked
[15:59] <amnix> I'm having a problem in ubuntu 14.04 with my wireless connection. I'm not that experienced so I can't seem to fix the problem myself. Whenever I select kernel 4.4.0-31 on startup, the wifi works fine. But if I don't select anything, kernel 4.4.0-62 gets selected automatically and the wifi is extremely slow on that. How do I fix this? How do I find out what the problem is?
[16:01] <_Rarity> Hi! I have certain programs I wanted to start at login. What is the correct place/script to start them from?
[16:01] <Xundres> try removing the 62 kernel and reinstalling it
[16:01] <amnix> Xundres: This is a fresh install of ubuntu.
[16:01] <Xundres> _Rarity: startup application
[16:02] <Xundres> amnix:so why don't you install 16.10
[16:03] <_Rarity> Xundres: Hi. I was not clear in my question. I am using the i3 window manager, so I am looking at a scripted solution. I could start my programs from either i3 config script, or from .bashrc, but I do not feel these are right.
[16:03] <amnix> Xundres: It might not work in that as well. I wanna figure out why it's not working here. And why it's working in 4.4.0-31.
[16:03] <jdeen> OerHeks: Thanks... so it seems like I will have to print it in PD nd then convert it to EPUB/MOBI
[16:03] <jdeen> thanks
[16:04] <amnix> Xundres: It's not that it doesn't work in 4.4.0-62 at all. It's just it's extremely slow. Unusable.
[16:04] <sashimi> So Im sure this is something super simple, but Ive tried everything that I can think of: Cant resolve domain names but I can ping any external ip
[16:05] <sashimi> I can post my resolve.conf or interfaces file
[16:05] <Dreaman> amnix  why not 16.04 lts
[16:06] <Dreaman> install
[16:06] <sashimi> but they both appear correct, as well as resolve.con has google dns server "nameserver 8.8.8.8" "nameserver 8.8.4.4"
[16:07] <Zewwy> sashimi: can't resolve domain names?
[16:07] <amnix> Dreaman: I think it would be wiser to see why it's not working here than just blindly trying newer versions with the hope that it might work.
[16:08] <sashimi> Zewwy: I can't ping 'google.com' etc
[16:08] <amnix> Dreaman: Also, I have already tried 16.04. Same problem in that version as well.
[16:08] <Zewwy> is avahi-daemon running?
[16:08] <Dreaman> amnix  my laptop is acer f15 and i use 16.10 ubuntu
[16:08] <amnix> Zewwy: How do I check? As I said, I'm not that experienced.
[16:08] <Zewwy> sudo service avahi-daemon status
[16:09] <amnix> Zewwy: avahi-daemon start/running, process 539
[16:09] <sashimi> Zewwy: avahi-daemon: unrecognized service, I guess not
[16:09] <Zewwy> it has more to do with domains that use .local that, that service might cause issues
[16:10] <TBotNik> All: Trying to recover server. Says tempdisk full but nothing says that. See writeup at:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5671342#post5671342
[16:10] <ppf> sashimi: nslookup google.com
[16:11] <sashimi> ppf: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[16:11] <Xundres> _Rarity: I would try with the config script
[16:11] <Zewwy> so you can't get a DNS response
[16:11] <ppf> sashimi: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[16:11] <Zewwy> ^^
[16:11] <ducasse> _Rarity: i use i3 as well, and start most things either from i3 config or ~/.xsessionrc, depending on what they are
[16:11] <amnix> So what should I do?
[16:12] <sashimi> ppf: Yes I can ping 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 or any external ip
[16:12] <Zewwy> nslookup google.com 8.8.8.8
[16:12] <sashimi> ppf: I also have those as my dns server in resolve.conf
[16:12] <Zewwy> sashimi: Does that work?
[16:13] <Lavinho> good morning
[16:13] <Lavinho> ideapad 100s lby freezes on ubuntu
[16:13] <Lavinho> what is ?
[16:14] <sashimi> Zewwy: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[16:14] <Zewwy> are there any firewalls in play?
[16:14] <Zewwy> seems maybe port 53 is being blcoked
[16:14] <Zewwy> to me seems a layer 4 issue
[16:15] <sashimi> Zewwy: Yes, theres a sonic wall
[16:15] <Zewwy> well get checking in there
[16:15] <Zewwy> go look see what happening to those packets
[16:17] <Zewwy> How can I get a list of all the URL Ubuntu requires to get updates and install packages from it's default repos?
[16:18] <Pici> Zewwy: they're in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:18] <Zewwy> Pici: Thsnkd!
[16:18] <knemon> I had a problem installing ubuntu, after grub it went to black screen. Then I used nomodeset in booting options and I managed to finally install it. NOw I have another problem, it says 'built in display' in settings and I can't change the resolution and I am with 800x600
[16:18] <Zewwy> Thanks!
[16:19] <TBotNik> Anyone understand my problem?
[16:19] <compdoc> knemon, you might try giving the onbaord video enough ram
[16:19] <ppf> can someone recommend a tool to add fillable forms to a pdf?
[16:19] <knemon> I dont understand
[16:20] <CrazySane> knemon: can you do this:   sudo lshw -c display | pastebinit    and give us the link it provides.
[16:20] <guest-rdfrpn> hi
[16:20] <compdoc> knemon, in the bios, you can assign ram to video. you want more than 16 or 32 megs. give it a gig of ram
[16:21] <guest-rdfrpn> hii
[16:21] <knemon> CrazySane, http://pastebin.ca/3768511
[16:22] <glitchd> TBotNik, how can anyone understand your problem if you dont tell us what it is?
[16:22] <knemon> compdoc, I didn't assign 16/32 mb. I don't remember doing that
[16:22] <compdoc> knemon, thats often the default
[16:24] <cristian_c> hello
[16:24] <cristian_c> I'd like to make avrcp profile working on my bluetooth headset, I mean: media buttons located on the headset
[16:25] <cristian_c>  I've looked at bluetoothctl info output and avrcp is listed as available for the device
[16:25] <cristian_c> What methods could I try in order to find the issue?
[16:25] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[16:43] <k_sze> Is there any caveat in using `systemctl hibernate` to put my machine to hibernation?
[16:43] <ppf> as opposed to what?
[16:44] <k_sze> I don't know. I have just never tried putting a Linux machine to sleep or hibernation using the command line.
[16:44] <ppf> then no, there's no caveat
[16:44] <ppf> :)
[16:44] <k_sze> My machine is dual-booting Yakkety and Windows 10, with Ubuntu's boot manager taking priority.
[16:46] <k_sze> And it's all installed on NVMe.
[16:46] <compdoc>  sounds fast
[16:46] <ppf> yes, why hibernate at all
[16:47] <k_sze> hmm
[16:47] <k_sze> Failed to hibernate system via logind: Sleep verb not supported
[16:47] <k_sze> because I have a running jupyter notebook session that I don't want to kill.
[16:50] <k_sze> looks like pm-hibernate works.
[16:50] <k_sze> (why is systemd always broken?)
[16:52] <kosta> hello guys, I have an issue with the whole computer freezing and there is nothing that I can do but to force a shutdown, I cannot even switch to console with shift-ctrl+1
[16:52] <k_sze> nvm, pm-hibernate doesn't seem to be doing anything either. It just doesn't show any error message.
[16:52] <BluesKaj> kosta:  you F1 right?
[16:52] <genii> kosta: Have you tried instead ctrl-alt-F1 ?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> mean
[16:52] <kosta> yes F1
[16:53] <ppf> k_sze: can you paste /etc/systemd/sleep.conf?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+F1 -F6 will give you VT/TTY shells, kosta
[16:53] <kosta7> there is nothing that I can do, the pc is completely frozen, it seems to be related with play full screen videos on chrome, but i disabled the hardware acceleration and the compiz settings like the workaround, but the issue for them was that the browser was crashing, for me it's the whole pc
[16:53] <k_sze> ppf: no such file
[16:54] <stonemanhero> hello!
[16:54] <k_sze> ppf: this is a default Yakkety desktop installation.
[16:54] <kosta7> I know BluesKaj I have been using linux for many years, since the 90s, this is the first time that due to a software failure, i cannot even switch to console, and there is nothing in syslog
[16:54] <BluesKaj> which ubuntu and graphics , kosta7?
[16:55] <kosta7> or dmesg
[16:55] <kosta7> BluesKaj, I am running 16.04 LTS
[16:55] <stonemanhero> How can i update current .deb installation with newly downloaded .deb via terminal (GitKraken)
[16:55] <ppf> stonemanhero: just install it
[16:55] <ppf> sudo dpkg -i
[16:55] <k_sze> bah. I'll try again tomorrow. Time for bed.
[16:56] <stonemanhero> thank you sir
[16:56] <kosta7> and it's Intel video card, lenovo laptop
[16:58] <knemon> I have a problem with ubuntu, when I use the live cd I have to use the nomodeset parameter as well, otherwise I will get a black screen. After installing ubuntu I have a problem with my display, it doesnt detect and I am stuck with 800x600 resolution. Any solutions?
[16:59] <kosta7> knemon, did you install any video card drivers ?
[16:59] <knemon> no
[16:59] <BluesKaj> i915 driver then ..I also have a lenovo with intel gpu\
[16:59] <kosta7> BluesKaj, let me confirm with you on the driver
[17:00] <kosta7> driver=i915
[17:00] <kosta7> yes this is correct
[17:00] <knemon> I think the problem is nomodeset, because the it disables KMS the kernel is using the VESA driver
[17:00] <knemon> but if I remove it I wont be able to boot.
[17:00] <kosta7> knemon, what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[17:01] <knemon> latest one
[17:02] <Dreaman> 16.10
[17:03] <kosta7> knemon, did you try apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and then check if boots ?
[17:04] <knemon> this is not the issue kode54
[17:04] <knemon> kosta7
[17:04] <kosta7> BluesKaj, are you running the latest chrome ? 56.0 ?
[17:05] <MartinKG> Am I the only one who find Chrome working better than Firefox in Linux? I recently switched back to linux after some years with windows, I have always sworn to firefox but chrome seems to be more compatible now?
[17:06] <kosta7> knemon, you are saying that it doesn't boot with normal drivers, did you look at the log to see what is the issue ?
[17:06] <knemon> ..
[17:07] <Xard> MartinKG: at the moment firefox seems to default to software layer compositing which makes it way slower than chrome
[17:07] <MartinKG> Xard, Yeah, actually what i have the most problems with is streaming services and video players
[17:07] <MartinKG> Works like a charm in Chrome
[17:08] <Xard> there are also some limitations with html5 video playback by default in firefox
[17:08] <ioria> knemon,   can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log    and lspci -k | grep VGA -A2 ?
[17:08] <pbandark> hello guys..  i am plaining to upgrade memory on my laptop. currently its 8gb. From dmidecode output i can see there are total 4 slots available. and max mem capacity is 32 gb. but when i opened back pannel of my laptop, i dont see any extra memory slots..  am i making any mistake in reading dmidcode ? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/G6miTeuhi3CdiYSDzNxapl5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=   can anyone have a look ?
[17:09] <chull> my husband has a problem with his ubuntu 16.04. It seems to be restarting itself or crashing when he is trying to start LibreOffice.. he can't open a browser to pastebin error logs. there are 4 entries and all are different. the last one is: ERROR: apport (pid 3359) Thu Feb 16 11:37:13 2017: called for pid 1685, signal 11, core limit 0
[17:09] <Xard> MartinKG you can check if about:support -> Graphics -> Compositing is set to "basic" instead of "Opengl"
[17:10] <knemon> ioria, the problem is probably the amd driver
[17:10] <knemon> also, I have a dual boot
[17:10] <ioria> knemon,   ok,  can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log    and lspci -k | grep VGA -A2 ?
[17:10] <MartinKG> Xard, Just checked that it was already on basic. I guess I just need to get used to Chrome then, not to much difference but just prefer the layout of firefox more :/
[17:10] <knemon> ioria, I am not on ubuntu right now. my eyes hurt after some time using it
[17:11] <ioria> knemon,   well, my crystal ball is broken :þ
[17:12] <Xard> MartinKG: as I suspected... if you want test it by forcing it on you can go to "about:config" -> "layers.acceleration.force-enabled" to "true"
[17:12] <Xard> and change*
[17:13] <knemon> I will reinstall it ioria and come back to post the results
[17:13] <Xard> I haven't had any issues with it, but it might cause problems as the devs decided to disable the composition in the first place
[17:13] <ioria> knemon,   wait.... install 16.04
[17:13] <ioria> knemon,  so, maybe we can install  AMDGPU-Pro
[17:14] <knemon> hmm ok
[17:14] <Jonii> How do you disable mouse acceleration in ubuntu?
[17:14] <knemon> AMDGPU-Pro through apt-get?
[17:14] <ioria> knemon,  really don't know if AMDGPU-Pro works with 16.10
[17:14] <ioria> knemon,  nope, from here http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[17:15] <knemon> ok
[17:15] <knemon> I will download 16.04 now
[17:16] <knemon> ioria, will that work even if I have nomodeset from grub?
[17:17] <ioria> knemon,  if you set nomodeset temporary, yes
[17:17] <knemon> temporary?
[17:17] <ioria> knemon,  if you edit /etc/defaul/grub , no
[17:17] <ioria> knemon,  you can set nomodeset in 2 different ways
[17:18] <knemon> so how do I set it temporary the first time I boot the live cd?
[17:19] <ioria> knemon,  with the F6 option
[17:20] <knemon> ok, so I hit F6 before I want chose Install Ubuntu
[17:20] <knemon> I add nomodeset to the booting parameters
[17:20] <ioria> knemon,  one or the other
[17:20] <ioria> knemon,  with F6 you can select nomodeset, so no need to edit the kernel boot line
[17:21] <knemon> alright
[17:21] <knemon> going for the 6th time to install ubuntu today
[17:21] <knemon> then I will install AMDGPU-Pro drivers and see
[17:21] <vlad1777d> Hello to all. About grub
[17:21] <vlad1777d> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true are deprecated, it would be better to use < http://pastebin.com/iRpyT1cp > instead of them. The result will be the same, but without deprecated properties.
[17:21] <ioria> knemon,  ok
[17:21] <vlad1777d> Also os-proper breaks logic, set by /etc/default/grub in case, when  GRUB_TIMEOUT=0, because he adds to /boot/grub/grub.cfg while generation (sudo update-grub) such lines: < http://pastebin.com/Py2VD3Qt >.
[17:21] <Gabros93> someone can tell me why automatic backup fails? it says that i have no space, but my home have 200gb of free space
[17:21] <vlad1777d> Full text of my /boot/grub/grub.cfg: < http://pastebin.com/QzcCfV2q >
[17:21] <vlad1777d> This bug was reported to Vivid, but is present in 16.04 Xenial too: < https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1273764 >
[17:21] <vlad1777d> Here is more info about deprecated properties: < here is more info about deprecation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1258597 >
[17:22] <cdidd> ubuntu provides vulnerable nvidia binary drivers in the standard repository. Am I correct? https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4398
[17:22] <vlad1777d> Both issues (with non-possiblity to specify 0 to grub loading time and using deprecated properties) were already corrected in Debian Sid (I just checked).
[17:22] <vlad1777d> cdidd, yes
[17:22] <vlad1777d> Can we correct it in 16.04 LTS ?
[17:24] <ducasse> vlad1777d: file a bug, there's nothing we can do for you. we're volunteers who help with support only.
[17:25] <vlad1777d> ducasse, I never did this, do I need "apt download" broken package and than correct it and send back ?
[17:26] <ducasse> vlad1777d: not sure how you would do that, but i would imagine you would fix it in the source package
[17:27] <efu_> hey guys
[17:28] <vlad1777d> ducasse, ok, thanks, are there some manuals for doing patches to ubuntu ?
[17:28] <ducasse> vlad1777d: then file a bug report, and point the devs to your fixed package with a summary of changes.
[17:28] <ducasse> vlad1777d: manual, not sure. see this link:
[17:28] <ducasse> !bug | vlad1777d
[17:28] <wedgie> or to the fixed sid packages. might be as simple as pulling in their changes.
[17:29] <vlad1777d> ducasse, ok, thanks
[17:35] <z1haze> hey all i am trying to use inotify to run a script when files are created/modified/deleted. and im very new to bash. i have this: http://dpaste.com/2HJMRWS but I need to still know how to i pass the event type into this file so I can perform some tasks with the file name and the type of event that triggered it
[17:36] <rowe> I can't get a .sh to run as an executable. I downloaded bauldr_s_gate.sh, did chmod +x to it, and then did ./ it.
[17:36] <rowe> I get "/bin/sh: 0: Can't open ./gog_baldur_s_gate_enhanced_edition_2.5.0.7.sh" in return.
[17:37] <k1l_> rowe: can you show a ls -al in that directory and the complete errormessage in a pastebin?
[17:38] <marioxcc> Hello.
[17:38] <marioxcc> I am using LXDE and Latinamerican keyboard for Spanish. How can I write cyrillic?.
[17:39] <rowe> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/eq54gphh
[17:42] <k1l_> rowe: try with "bash foo.sh" instead of ./
[17:42] <k1l_> rowe: bin/sh is dash and maybe that is missing some features that this script wants and that are included in bash
[17:43] <johncena_> Help me
[17:43] <rowe> k1l_: is that a prefix or the whole command? I'm new and bad at Linux.
[17:43] <k1l_> rowe: bash gog_baldur_s_gate_enhanced_edition_2.5.0.7.sh
[17:45] <rowe> k1l_: you're my knight in eggplant-colored armor. Thank you.
[17:45] <k1l_> rowe: np
[17:46] <akinode> Does anyone here know how to filter the join and timeout alerts?
[17:47] <DJones> !quietirc | akinode
[17:47] <akinode> !quitirc|akinode
[17:47] <akinode> um
[17:47] <DJones> akinode: Which irc client are you using
[17:48] <akinode> Hexchat
[17:48] <Flamekebab> Possibly a silly question. I'm running Trusty on my VPS but for some reason the kernel seems stuck on 2.6.32-042stab111.12
[17:48] <DJones> akinode: Have a look at http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages#HexChat That gives details of how tohide the joins/parts etc
[17:48] <Flamekebab> What's going on there and how do I upgrade it to something from the 3.x series or higher?
[17:49] <akinode> DJones ok, thanks
[17:49] <ducasse> Flamekebab: depending on your provider, you might not be able to.
[17:50] <Flamekebab> ducasse - as far as I know I can install whatever I want. I have root access and so forth
[17:50] <ducasse> Flamekebab: some of them do not give you a 'full' vm where you control the kernel the vm boots.
[17:50] <Flamekebab> Ah, interesting
[17:51] <Flamekebab> I'll look into it, ducasse. Thanks!
[17:51] <ducasse> Flamekebab: ask your provider :)
[17:55] <Flamekebab> Ticket posted. Let's see if you're right, ducasse :)
[17:56] <pbandark> hello guys..  i am plaining to upgrade memory on my laptop. currently its 8gb. From dmidecode output i can see there are total 4 slots available. and max mem capacity is 32 gb. but when i opened back pannel of my laptop, i dont see any extra memory slots..  am i making any mistake in reading dmidcode ? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/G6miTeuhi3CdiYSDzNxapl5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=   can anyone have a look ?
[17:57] <xangua> pbandark: try ##hardware
[17:58] <xangua> Ooh
[17:58] <pbandark> xangua, ack
[17:58] <ducasse> pbandark: dmidecode tells you what the cpu supports aiui, not what the laptop actually supports. but check with ##hardware.
[18:00] <marioxcc> Hello. Where can I find a Cyrilic keyboard distribution with non-letter keys similar to latinamerican (latam) keyboard distribution?.}
[18:00] <pbandark> ok ducasse
[18:05] <theseb> How move MP3's to iPods with ubuntu?
[18:06] <arooni> how long does system load take to drop?  cpu doesnt seem occupied at all; and plenty of memory; yet load is still 6.96 on my lenovo t420 laptop
[18:06] <pbandark> ducasse, do you know what is reliable way to confirm if laptop has any free slots for memory ?
[18:08] <pbandark> `lshw -class memory` shows the same output
[18:08] <nacc> arooni: is the disk busy?
[18:10] <ioria> pbandark, already tried  sudo dmidecode --type 17 ?
[18:10] <ducasse> pbandark: a very reliable way is to open it up and look ;)
[18:10] <k1l_> arooni: sounds like some bottleneck, like slow disk
[18:10] <pbandark> yes ioria
[18:11] <pbandark> ducasse,  :)
[18:11] <ioria> pbandark, and what's the output ?
[18:11] <pbandark> ioria, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/G6miTeuhi3CdiYSDzNxapl5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=
[18:11] <MrFixIt> has Ubuntu announced the revised dates for the release of 16.04.2?
[18:12] <ioria> pbandark, you have 3 slots free
[18:13] <marioxcc> Where can I get a Russian keyboard layout for GNU/Linux based on the Latinamerica alphabet?.
[18:13] <pbandark> this is what i understood. but when i opened back pannel of my laptop,  i dont see extra space to fit more memory sticks
[18:13] <pbandark> ioria, ^
[18:13] <k1l_> MrFixIt: my last info is today
[18:13] <pbandark> ioria, so bit confused if we should rely on dmidecode or not
[18:13] <MrFixIt> thanks k1l_
[18:14] <pbandark> or i am mistaken to understand the output
[18:14] <ioria> pbandark,  it's said it's not reliable 100% to be honest
[18:14] <pbandark> :-(
[18:15] <ducasse> pbandark: but as we said, ask in ##hardware
[18:15] <pbandark> ducasse, yes i have already pinged there.
[18:15] <ioria> pbandark,  sudo lshw -C memory
[18:16] <pbandark> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/mvvcrtUTNr63dJhXR2KD015M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=
[18:16] <pbandark> ioria,
[18:16] <pbandark> same output
[18:17] <ioria> pbandark,  so you have 3 slots ... check you laptop model
[18:18] <pbandark> ioria, i am using lenvo ideapad u430 touch..
[18:19] <pbandark> ioria, i googled to confirm if my model really supports or not. but i am unable to confirm..
[18:20] <ducasse> pbandark: look at the docs at the lenovo site
[18:20] <pbandark> hmm..
[18:20]  * pbandark checking
[18:21] <ioria> pbandark,  i7 4500U  ? and 500 hd ?
[18:21] <pbandark> i5 500gb
[18:24] <Akuw> i am using  sudo wget -O - https://nightly.odoo.com/odoo.key | apt-key add -
[18:24] <Akuw> but got  ---->  No se puede escribir a “-” (Conseguido).
[18:24] <genii> Akuw: put sudo before apk-key add
[18:25] <genii> Akuw: Also remove the dash between -O and the URL
[18:27] <Akuw> ready, thanks genii
[18:28] <bladernr> Can someone help me out with pinning?  I'm looking at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[18:29] <bladernr> in the section called Recommended alternative to pinning, I'm trying to build from zesty source the package stress-ng on Xenial.
[18:29] <ducasse> genii: that dash is there to redirect to stdout, methinks
[18:30] <bladernr> but when I do the build, I'm getting this weird error: ubuntu@cx1640-1:~$ sudo apt-get -b source -t zesty stress-ng
[18:30] <bladernr> Reading package lists... Done
[18:30] <bladernr> E: The value 'zesty' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[18:30] <bladernr> E: Unable to find a source package for
[18:30] <nacc> bladernr: did you do the first step?
[18:30] <nacc> bladernr: adding zesty, in this case, to sources.list as a deb-src?
[18:30] <bladernr> nacc, yes
[18:30] <bladernr> and updated the apt cache
[18:30] <genii> Akuw: Sorry, you want more like: wget https://nightly.odoo.com/odoo.key -O -  | sudo apt-key add -
[18:31] <nacc> bladernr: please pastebin your sources.list
[18:31] <bladernr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24008667/
[18:32] <bladernr> that was copied verbatim from the How-To, only swapping out zesty for intrepid
[18:33] <BillyM_> Hi, anyone able to help with an issue im having?
[18:33] <nacc> bladernr: and output of `apt-get update`, to be sure?
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> BillyM_  let's hear it, in one line
[18:34] <bladernr> nacc, the update seems too have been successful too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24008676/
[18:34] <bladernr> nacc, I was just about to hit send when  you asked :)
[18:34] <BillyM_> Sometimes when i open windows on ubuntu the mouse focus gets stuck. This means the mouse stops responding to any other clicks. Any ideas on how to resolve it?
[18:35] <nacc> bladernr: can you pastebin the other two commands and output?
[18:35] <bladernr> nacc I just figured it out.  using us.archive.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com worked.
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> BillyM_  wireless mouse, cable, or touchpad?
[18:35] <BillyM_> Wired
[18:35] <nacc> bladernr: strange, but ok :)
[18:36] <bladernr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24008682/
[18:36] <bladernr> that was bizarre
[18:36] <BillyM_> The mouse + KB also sometimes take a while to respond on boot (doesnt happen on windows) but that could be an entirely different issue
[18:37] <nacc> bladernr: very strange, i'm not sure why that would be, but i guess i've always used us.archive as well
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> BillyM_  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:38] <bladernr> nacc, I spoke too soon :(
[18:38] <bladernr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24008701/ <- otehr two commands
[18:38] <BillyM_> Im on windows atm. If you give me 5 minutes i shall return on Ubuntu and hopefully have the issue happen again
[18:40] <bladernr> nacc, I suppose I could just change the main deb line to zesty, install it and then switch back...
[18:42] <BillyM__> Back again
[18:42] <BillyM__> It returns "Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l"
[18:45] <nacc> bladernr: i think there is a typo on the wiki page
[18:46] <nacc> bladernr: hrm, maybe not
[18:46] <nacc> bladernr: i'm not sure -- you could also just do this in a PPA which would be significnatly easier
[18:46] <bladernr> not my stuff, and yes, a PPA would be a LOT easier.  But in the end, just swapping the deb lines to Xenial, installing and swapping them back worked.
[18:47] <bladernr> I just  wanted to try the "suggested" way for once... see where that got me :/
[18:47] <bladernr> heh
[18:47] <bladernr> nacc, ^
[18:49] <mynameis> hello
[18:49] <mynameis> I'm just installed Ubuntu 16.10 and I'm stuck with 1024x768 please help!
[18:51] <timyp> mynameis what you mean you are stuck with it, what happens when you try to change it?
[18:51] <BIllyM_> I have also noticed the KB + mouse not responding on boot drives me insane. tl:dr I have KB + mouse problems
[18:51] <nacc> bladernr: hrm, i don't use apt-get to build .debs (and i build a lot of debs), so not sure, but glad you have it working now
[18:51] <BIllyM_> Its making Ubuntu unbearable
[18:51] <mynameis> I don't have any resolutions available except 1024x768 and 800x600
[18:52] <mynameis> I have tried installing amdgpu-pro driver but it didn't work
[18:52] <timyp> what video card you using?
[18:52] <mynameis> AMD Radeon r7 250x
[18:54] <timyp> anything helpful in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:55] <derif> hello
[18:55] <timyp> 16.04 has no proprietary AMD drivers that I'm aware of so that sucks
[18:55] <mynameis> I'm not sure what could be helpful
[18:56] <timyp> I'd say proprietary AMD drivers would have been the way to go
[18:56] <mynameis> I hoped that the default driver would work but it doesn't and amdgpu-pro doesn't work after installing
[18:57] <mynameis> what drivers are those?
[18:57] <derif> my instagram id arif_murthi
[18:58] <mynameis> amd fglx driver doesn't work with Ubuntu 16.04 and above
[18:58] <timyp> you know I don't see any r7's listed with supported hardware http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[18:58] <mynameis> they have a newer one for Ubuntu 16.04 called amdgpu-pro and I installed that on my 16.10 and it didn't work
[18:59] <ojatko> hello everyone, I'd like to batch convert flv files to mp4. I've tried a number of commands in my online search, but couldn't make it work, apparently for not assigning the right parameters. can you please help?
[18:59] <timyp> I mean I see AMD Radeon™ R7 260 Graphics but not 250x
[18:59] <timyp> so I don't think your card is supported with the card drivers mynameis
[19:00] <timyp> maybe try AMDGPU-PRO Driver 16.60
[19:01] <timyp> what version did you use mynameis?
[19:01] <mynameis> I see but what can I do now?
[19:01] <mynameis> that's the one I tried
[19:01] <mynameis> 16.60
[19:01] <timyp> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx
[19:01] <timyp> try that one if you have not already
[19:02] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu 16.04 and ubuntu-mate-desktop.  There are a few problems. Any idea what package might be missing to get such a strange language mix in dialoges? http://imgur.com/H00NsQP
[19:03] <timyp> vlt what's listed under Language Support ?
[19:03] <vlt> timyp: Wher do i find that?
[19:03] <timyp> try this https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/how-to-change-the-language-settings-in-ubuntu/3448
[19:04] <timyp> sorry not in front of my mate box at the moment
[19:04] <mynameis> timyp it's exactly the same one that I tried :(
[19:04] <timyp> mynameis sorry not sure what else to try
[19:05] <mynameis> I read that it doesn't work with current kernel so I even followed this guide https://www.sabeltand.net/amdgpu-1610/
[19:05] <vlt> timyp: Thank you, I'll try that.
[19:05] <vlt> Then: the missing Alt+Tab functionality drives me crazy. I can only change to the very last window using Alt+Tab. I can see all the other icons but pressing Tab repeatedly while holding down Alt doesn't activate them.
[19:05] <genii> timyp: I see one language is German, other than "disabled" being in English, is there some other language there?
[19:06] <mynameis> I just switched from Windows, it seems that I will have to switch back :/
[19:06] <timyp> genii lets see screen shot
[19:07] <timyp> German is the language that you are seeing
[19:07] <BIllyM_> So, my mouse focus just got stuck in xterm again making it impossible to use the mouse until i switch to terminal view(ctrl+alt+f6) and back to desktop (ctrl+alt+f7). Any logs i should look at?
[19:08] <mynameis> has anyone else had the problem with AMD drivers not working on Ubuntu 16.10?
[19:08] <timyp> mynameis don't think I've ever used an amd video card with a linux install always used nvidea, it has its share of problems but works well after tweeks
[19:08] <k1l_> vlt: looks like its not all translated
[19:09] <BIllyM_> any help would be appreciated
[19:09] <mynameis> it used to work in earlier versions of Ubuntu but they discontinued working on that driver
[19:10] <OerHeks> mynameis, amd-gpu works fine, maybe amd-pro does not work on all cards, nothing we can do about that but wait
[19:10] <mynameis> what is amd-gpu? I couldn't find it anywhere, only amdgpu-pro
[19:11] <mynameis> OerHeks I also installed olgaif's drivers but they don't work either
[19:11] <OerHeks> amdgpu is the open driver, amd-pro is closed source, to see what driver is in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[19:12] <OerHeks> the driver for older cards is the openradeon driver.
[19:12] <mynameis> is says "Kernel driver in use: radeon" it's after I installed olgaif's drivers
[19:13] <timyp> genii did is this a fresh mate install? and did you install any other packages after the install?
[19:13] <genii> timyp: I'm not the one with the problem
[19:13] <vlt> timyp, k1l_: I followed the instructions in the link and now the system installed a lot more -l10n packages. Works now. Thanks.
[19:14] <mynameis> my card is not that old so maybe that's why openradeon doesn't work for me
[19:14] <timyp> ah vlt next time you can also try #ubuntu-mate channel for help. I'm glade its working
[19:14] <mynameis> where can I get amdgpu? or is it Ubuntu's default?
[19:14] <vlt> timyp: Thank you, I'll head to that channel.
[19:15] <OerHeks> mynameis, oh, that might explain your issue, i think normally you would use amdgpu
[19:15] <OerHeks> (standard loaded)
[19:16] <mynameis> OerHeks I don't know what the driver was initially, this is what I have installed right now: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[19:17] <OerHeks> mynameis, use ppapurge to reverse to the standard driver then
[19:18] <mynameis> OerHeks will I need a reboot to check what driver is installed after purge?
[19:18] <OerHeks> mynameis, not sure about that
[19:21] <mynameis> is it normal that my syslog is 6.5GB big after just on a fresh installed system?
[19:21] <mynameis> my /var partition is only 10GB big and I keep running out of space
[19:21] <k1l_> mynameis: how long is that running since reboot?
[19:22] <mynameis> maybe 2 hours
[19:22] <k1l_> mynameis: but i guess there is spamming some errors.
[19:22] <OerHeks> mynameis, no, maybe that ppa / driver is spamming the log
[19:22] <mynameis> oh
[19:22] <OerHeks> tail -f /path/thefile.log
[19:23] <OerHeks> ( and ctrl + C to stop)
[19:23] <mynameis> it says a lot of things but I don't see anything about graphics
[19:24] <abstradelic> me?
[19:25] <k1l_> mynameis: "tail -n 200 |nc termbin.com 9999"  and show the url here
[19:25] <abstradelic> or not me?
[19:25] <k1l_> mynameis: stop
[19:25] <abstradelic> X:P
[19:25] <k1l_> mynameis: "tail -n 200 /var/log/syslog |nc termbin.com 9999"  and show the url here
[19:26] <mynameis> url: http://termbin.com/hl6j
[19:27] <nacc> looks to be a buggy usb device
[19:28] <OerHeks> Modules linked in: .... amdkfd amd_iommu_v2 radeon
[19:28] <mynameis> yeah there is a lot of that
[19:29] <k1l_> mynameis: "lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:29] <mynameis> lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:30] <mynameis> http://termbin.com/i9pbl
[19:30] <ioria> mynameis, wifi adapter plugged ?
[19:31] <mynameis> yes it is
[19:31] <k1l_> mynameis: looks like the usb wifi thing is crashing and spamming your system
[19:31] <mynameis> wow that's weird
[19:31] <mynameis> it's workig though
[19:32] <mynameis> I'm on wifi right now
[19:32] <k1l_> mynameis: see in "systemsettings -> software and update -> last tab if there are needed drivers to isntall. then run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" and see if updates are pending.
[19:33] <mynameis> can I somehow clear syslog to free some space without rebooting? I won't be able to install anything because my /var partiion is full
[19:34] <ioria> mynameis, did you compile yourself the module ?
[19:34] <mynameis> no, I downloaded the iso from the website
[19:35] <ioria> mynameis,  ok, see what k1l_ told you
[19:36] <mynameis> I would really like to but unfortunately I can't: "no space left on device"
[19:36] <mynameis> so I need to clear the syslog to free some space
[19:36] <mynameis> but I don't know how to do that and if it's possible without rebooting
[19:38] <k1l_> mynameis: just delete the files in /var/log then
[19:38] <boxrick1> I want the 16.10 kernel from HWE on my 16.04 preseed
[19:39] <boxrick1> As simple as using this line: d-i	base-installer/kernel/altmeta	string hwe-16.04  ?
[19:40] <RonaldsMazitis> anybody knows how to install qgiffer on ubuntu 16.04
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> !find giffer
[19:41] <mynameis> ok apt full-upgrade done, nothing pending, nothing installed
[19:42] <RonaldsMazitis> I guess there is no qgifer for 16.04
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> !find qgiffer xenial
[19:47] <ioria> RonaldsMazitis, maybe you can still grab the .deb  (at your risk)   http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/how-to-create-a-gif-from-video-on-ubuntu-with-qgifer
[19:50] <ALFA> federica 14 anni
[19:50] <ALFA> mora carnagione scura coda dsi cavalo occhi neri formosa
[19:50] <phos1> I am trying to install a lets encrypt SSl certificate, and I am getting he client lacks sufficient authorization :: Incorrect validation certificate for TLS-SNI-01 challenge, it’s pulling up the certiifcate from another site on the server.
[19:51] <phos1> Using Apache, my command was certbot-auto --apache -d
[19:52] <tomreyn> phos1: so make it available where it is looking for it.
[19:52] <phos1> How, the issue is if I view the SSL verion of this site it pulls up that one.
[19:53] <tomreyn> phos1: and be sure to use the test API, not the live one, during your tests, or you will likely get blacklisted.
[19:53] <RonaldsMazitis> Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:~samrog131/ubuntu/ppa'.
[19:53] <RonaldsMazitis> The user named '~samrog131' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/ppa'
[19:53] <RonaldsMazitis> ioria:
[19:54] <phos1> tomreyn: Makes sense. So i need to make the site load the on SSL without the certificate so the test will pass, do I just have to create Vhost file for that (this site doesn’t have one the other does)
[19:55] <k1l_> RonaldsMazitis: the ppa doesnt exist. you use outdated howtos
[19:55] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: that syntax is incorrect
[19:55] <ojatko> hello everyone, I am trying to install a tar-
[19:55] <ojatko> tar.gx file
[19:55] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: try ppa:samrog131/ppa
[19:56] <ojatko> but ./configure command gives no such file or directory
[19:56] <ojatko> and I am in the package's folder
[19:57] <k1l_> ojatko: read the readme
[19:57] <ojatko> k1l_ I did, there's nothing related to this
[19:57] <arooni> is there a 'bartender' like app as in mac os x?  i have too many tray icons and they are stretching across my menu bar lol.
[19:58] <tomreyn> phos1: https://certbot.eff.org/docs/using.html#apache discusses how the --apache option works. if you are just trying to get a certificate for a single vhost then use the --webroot option instead.
[19:58] <tomreyn> phos1: you will likely get better support in #letencrypt than here - i never used certbot myself
[19:59] <ioria> RonaldsMazitis  i said '.deb' not the ppa
[20:00] <ioria> RonaldsMazitis  "Update June 2016: The PPA mentioned above no longer exists. You can grab a .deb installer of Qgifer 0.2.3"
[20:00] <tomreyn> ojatko: tar.gx is not a common file extension. maybe you mean tar.xz, tar.gz or tar.bz?
[20:00] <ojatko> tomreyn, sorry, did I write tar.gz? you're right, it is tar.gx
[20:01] <ojatko> sorry, tar.xy
[20:01] <ojatko> oh god
[20:01] <ojatko> tar.xz
[20:01] <OerHeks> RonaldsMazitis, build it yourself? there is no ppa anymore, https://github.com/Apkawa/QGifer
[20:01] <tomreyn> :)
[20:02] <tomreyn> ojatko: so this hints at an archive file format, which would be unpackages using: tar xJf filename.tar.xz
[20:02] <tomreyn> *unpacked
[20:02] <mynameis> hi again, I uninstalled this driver https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers and now lshw is showing that I'm running radeon driver which doesn't allow me to set a higher resolution that 1024x768
[20:03] <tomreyn> ojatko: once unpacked, you should find a README or INSTALL file there which contains further instructions.
[20:03] <mynameis> amdgpu-pro isn't working either what can I do now?
[20:03] <ioria> mynameis, if you ask me, install 16.04 and try again amdgpu-pro
[20:03] <samadhi_> Hi there, How Can I change a key of my keyboard that dont work
[20:04] <samadhi_> the key is the arrow to down
[20:04] <ojatko> tomreyn, thank you so much! I'd used 'tar xf' which is likely the reason for error
[20:04] <samadhi_> if is possible i need change some ctrl key maybe and change for the arrow to down
[20:04] <mynameis> ioria yes that's not a bad solution especially that nothing that I tried worked
[20:05] <ioria> mynameis,  already tried 16.04 ?
[20:05] <tomreyn> ojatko: this would work for a non-compressed .tar file only
[20:05] <mynameis> ioria no I haven't tried it yet
[20:05] <ojatko> tomreyn, but I get the same error
[20:06] <ioria> mynameis,  give it a chance
[20:06] <tomreyn> ojatko: what's the command you are running, what is the output it is giving, paste to a pastebin and provide the URL
[20:06] <mynameis> ioria I'm worried that it might not change anything but it seems that I don't have any other option left
[20:06] <tomreyn> !pastebin | ojatko
[20:06] <mynameis> thanks for the suggestion
[20:06] <ioria> mynameis,  ok, no prob
[20:07] <ojatko> tomreyn, sorry!! the package was a binary that was ready to be used, without need for installation!
[20:08] <tomreyn> ojatko: ok. in the future, you can use the (GNU) file command to examine which format a given file is in.
[20:11] <RonaldsMazitis> so I download or clone version Oerheks, unzip it what do I do next
[20:13] <OerHeks> RonaldsMazitis, there are instructions on that github page too..
[20:13] <OerHeks> !build
[20:14] <RonaldsMazitis> it does not make or build
[20:23] <OerHeks> RonaldsMazitis, it is an old project, and indeed instructions are not clear.  there are other ways to make a movie from gifs from a movie https://www.ostechnix.com/create-animated-gif-ubuntu-16-04/
[20:25] <maszlo> I have found today that my only user that i have on my notebook, and have used for years is not in the sudoers file.  what in the world could have changed that?
[20:25] <maszlo> since dont have sudo access cant see who is in the list, but i can see that it hasnt been modified for over half a year
[20:26] <ioria> maszlo, type   id    and paste the output
[20:28] <maszlo> cross different computers... I see uid=1000(reck7) gid=1000(reck7 groups=1000(reck7),20(dialout)
[20:28] <ioria> maszlo,  it's not a default user id
[20:29] <ojatko> solved, thank you!
[20:29] <ioria> maszlo,  type :     groups
[20:30] <mcoffin> Hello, I'm trying to run a containerized 16.04 on mesos from mcoffin/test-container (source: https://github.com/mcoffin/test-container). Locally (in the docker daemon, it works fine). In the mesos containerizer, "apt-get install" always says that none of the packages could be authenticated. How can I go about debugging WHY apt-get can't authenticate packages? (Already run apt-get update and apt-key update
[20:30] <mcoffin> and apt-key list to make sure that the ubuntu signing keys are present in the keyring, so it's not a problem with mesos overridding the gpg keyring)
[20:30] <nomic> it should authenticate
[20:30] <nomic> if it is in the package list
[20:30] <nomic> otherwise, no
[20:30] <nomic> there is a package that has an index of all packages available to "apt"
[20:31] <nomic> that is "synaptic"
[20:31] <nomic> "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[20:31] <nomic> "sudo apt install synaptic"
[20:31] <nomic> if the package is not in that index, it can't be installed plainly
[20:31] <nomic> mcoffin
[20:31] <maszlo1> ioria: if you replied can you say it again?
[20:31] <k1l_> you dont need to install synaptic
[20:31] <nomic> i don't know what 'mesos' is mcoffin
[20:32] <mcoffin> nomic: This happens with ALL packages, even ones that that authenticate just fine locally (when I run the same container locally via the docker daemon)
[20:32] <ioria> maszlo,  type :     groups
[20:32] <nomic> keep asking here, don't just drift off - it is transient
[20:32] <nomic> what ubuntu do you have
[20:32] <k1l_> you can already just search with "apt search" nomic mcoffin
[20:32] <nomic> sounds like his installation may be non standard?
[20:32] <nomic> what ubuntu are you running, version mcoffin
[20:33] <nomic> also it is efficient to post a message on https://ubuntuforums.org/ .. register, post .. people will be answering your posts while you sleep
[20:33] <nomic> mcoffin
[20:34] <maszlo1> groups has reck7 and dialout
[20:34] <nomic> forums is very busy.
[20:34] <mcoffin> nomic: Mesos is a distributed scheduler... but that's not incredibly relevant. What's relevant is the mesos containerizer, which provides isolation to tasks run by mesos. (chrooting / filesystem isolation / network isolation / etc.). Something about the way that mesos is running my ubuntu container is preventing packages from being authenticated, and I'm trying to debug why, but as I don't have tons of
[20:34] <mcoffin> debian / ubuntu experience, I don't know where to start to get more useful information from "apt"
[20:34] <nomic> why do you need to use this 'mesos' .. can't you just install apt get .. is it only 'mesos', that is saying this is not authentic
[20:35] <ioria> maszlo1,   and how do you update/upgrade your system without sudo rights ?
[20:35] <nomic> install using apt-get
[20:35] <mcoffin> nomic: Sorry I don't think you understand. I'm running ubuntu INSIDE a mesos container
[20:35] <nomic> virtual machine?
[20:36] <k1l_> mcoffin: that sounds like a vpn/proxy is the issue
[20:36] <nomic> try without?
[20:36] <OerHeks> mcoffin, there is a #mesos channel too
[20:36] <k1l_> mcoffin: transparent proxies are known to break SSL
[20:36] <nomic> all kinds of issues above and beyond "os", are engendered when you run something in a virtual machine
[20:36] <k_j> Hi
[20:36] <nomic> your situation is not uncomplicated.  your setup, that is
[20:36] <k1l_> mcoffin: so better ask them about their setup since this is not a ubuntu issue but a mesos issue
[20:36] <nomic> you appear to be a more sophisticated user, in what you know
[20:36] <mcoffin> OerHeks: Yea, problem is there's definitely a mesos bug here, I just need help figuring out how to debug the problem so I can figure out what exactly the bug in the containerizer is.
[20:36] <k_j> if I boot my ubuntu 16.04 with an hdmi plugged-in , it is detected.  If I later unplug and plug it again, then is no longer detected. How can I turn the plug & play thing on, or at least wake up the HDMI display again?
[20:37]  * nomic thinks that too
[20:37] <mcoffin> k1l_: Correct, definitely a mesos issue, but what I"m saying here is how can I get more information from apt on why it can't authenticate the packages
[20:37] <OerHeks> k_j, my trick to activate is just open systemsettings, odd but it works
[20:37] <mcoffin> k1l_: nomic: fwiw, I'm not using a transparent proxy at all
[20:38] <k_j> OerHeks, open it and ?
[20:38] <nomic> check if the packages install without/outside mesos
[20:38] <k_j> OerHeks, it's open...
[20:38] <mcoffin> nomic: Already checked that. Yes. If I run the same docker container locally, it works fine. The bug is in the mesos container, not ubuntu. I just need to know how to debug exactly WHY apt can't authenticate the packages, so that I can fix the bug in the containerizer
[20:39] <nomic> you're going to have to go to mesos support (irc/forum)
[20:39] <nomic> specific obscure app issue
[20:39] <nomic> obscurish
[20:39] <k_j> any idea?
[20:39] <nomic> what is this FOR?  mesos/ your package
[20:39] <k_j> come on guys , am i the only one with two monitors?
[20:39] <mcoffin> Ugh. I AM the mesos support haha. I just need to figure out what's wrong with mesos, but in order to do that, I need debug information from apt on exactly why it thinks it can't authenticate the packages
[20:39] <nacc> !patience | k_j
[20:40] <maszlo1> ioria: I know on tuesday I had sudo rights for my user.  I am not sure how this would have been adjusted
[20:40] <OerHeks> k_j, then unplugging hdmi is not suitable for your hardware, live with it.
[20:40] <k_j> my hardware? it's a damn standard display
[20:40] <nacc> mcoffin: you may want to look at hte debug options from `man apt.conf`
[20:40] <k_j> with an intel based laptop
[20:40] <nomic> there are system messages, in repositories, all over the place .... you need to find out where apt reports to
[20:40] <nomic> everything is logged
[20:40] <OerHeks> k_j, so?
[20:40] <PubertySpider> I heard this place is friendly to Linux beginners. I'm not dumb, but I am completely new to Linux. Hell, just reading for now.
[20:41] <mcoffin> nomic: Thanks. I'll take a look at that
[20:41] <PubertySpider> fun!
[20:41] <nomic> yeah - debug information .. find the logs
[20:41] <nomic> of apt
[20:41] <genii> maszlo1: You probably did something like: sudo usermod -G newgroup username    ..without the -a switch for "append"
[20:41] <nomic> investigate apt first .. this is all open
[20:41] <k_j> so we live in 2017, I pretend ubuntu to work out-of-the-box
[20:41] <OerHeks> k_j,  did you try to switch with the FN key for internal/external/both displays?
[20:41] <nomic> if apt "stops", there will be a message
[20:41] <CrazySane> maszlo1: genii: ugh. The worst.
[20:42] <OerHeks> k_j, seen many laptops that cannot handle unplugging hdmi, so you are not alone.
[20:42] <nomic> there could even be a switch on apt (command line), to show debugging info / more messages
[20:42] <ioria> maszlo1,   can you paste the output of :  cut -d: -f1,3 /etc/passwd | egrep ':[0-9]{4}$' | cut -d: -f1
[20:42] <k1l_> mcoffin: man apt.conf about debug options
[20:42] <nomic> what is mesos please
[20:43] <nacc> nomic: http://mesos.apache.org/
[20:43] <nomic> will google it
[20:43] <nomic> http://mesos.apache.org/community/
[20:43] <nomic> there ya go ... should have query posted in there, now, before you investigate .. even if you fix it -- correspond
[20:44] <maszlo1> I cant c/p i am on different computer.. not really concerned about fixing it, as much as what would have changed this?
[20:44] <phos1> My apache instance just went down when I tried to install SSL certificate, I am getting https://bpaste.net/show/01e7966eb14d
[20:44] <maszlo1> i have not installed anything outside of repos, malware do this?
[20:44] <ioria> maszlo1,   my idea it's that it's not that your main user
[20:44] <mcoffin> nomic: I already posted in the #mesos channel, but they're not of much use since it's hard to say what exactly is wrong with the containerizer without knowing exactly what is causing apt to be unable to authenticate the packages
[20:45] <k_j> :(
[20:45] <maszlo1> ioria: well have only had one user, that has been used for years
[20:45] <nomic> is it firewall?   I don't know about this
[20:45] <k_j> so it's the unpluggin part that does not work?
[20:45] <ioria> maszlo1,  maybe if you boot that system, we can help
[20:46] <platz> is anyone seeing Alt+Arrow and Super+Arrow switch to next/prev TTY?
[20:46] <maszlo1> only thing i can think of is that minicom messed it up somehow
[20:47] <platz> would like to prevent this behavior
[20:47] <maszlo1> i will loop back on that system.
[20:48] <k_j> it owrks now
[20:48] <k_j> i manually invoked a command
[20:48] <k_j> now, how to use the hdmi speakers
[20:49] <PubertySpider> just don't use them plug in earbuds, lol
[20:50] <OerHeks> k_j, hdmi should be an options in your soundsettings
[20:52] <k_j> OerHeks, should that take effect immediately?
[20:52] <OerHeks> Yes, here it works fine switching.
[20:53] <k_j> OerHeks, but even with firefox - youtube?
[20:54] <OerHeks> k_j, dunno with firefox, i removed that browser
[20:54] <k_j> ok what are u using
[20:54] <mcoffin> nomic: it appears that /var/lib/apt/lists is corrupted when it gets mounted by overlayfs
[20:54] <PubertySpider> YO, my software application doesn't load anything passed the home selection of categories or anythign past a simple search. Any suggestions?
[20:55] <PubertySpider> Thank you my friends.
[20:55] <mcoffin> I get a bunch of seemingly broken files when running `ls -al /var/lib/apt/lists`.
[20:55] <ioria> OerHeks, you removed firefox ?  may i ask you why ?
[20:55] <OerHeks> k_j, clementine. but this is not intel.
[20:55] <OerHeks> ioria, i don't want 2 browsers
[20:56] <platz> odd, a reboot and the problem went away
[20:56] <ioria> OerHeks, oh, ok tx
[20:56] <OerHeks> or not 3, www is standard installed too.
[20:56] <OerHeks> www = touch related browser.
[20:57] <OerHeks> k_j, maybe logout/login is needed for your situation, not sure about that but you can try.
[20:59] <a_> .. guess I'll make do with a 1 second delay for now, that's not too bad
[21:11] <backbox4491> 132
[21:25] <aaswe> Hello there
[21:25] <aaswe> whois
[21:25] <aaswe> LIST
[21:26] <k1l> hi
[21:31] <gambl0re> anyone here use spotify
[21:31] <RedPengu1n> hello all
[21:31] <RedPengu1n> gambl0re: I do
[21:32] <RedPenguin> anybody know why after installing bridge-utils the device in the bridge/non-LAN port would seem to not be communicating?
[21:33] <ravenblack> any one tell me how I see how much ram or HD space i have in my pc
[21:33] <franco_> hi
[21:33] <ravenblack> hi franco
[21:33] <RedPenguin> hi
[21:33] <ravenblack> hey red
[21:33] <k1l> ravenblack: "lshw"
[21:33] <RedPenguin> ravenblack: you could do "sudo dmidecode" or even "cat /proc/cpuinfo" if you want the CPU
[21:33] <RedPenguin> oh what k11 says also
[21:33] <RedPenguin> or*
[21:33] <tomreyn> ravenblack: "df -h" for free space.
[21:34] <gmh> Anyone wanna guess (based on experience) how long rebuild a mdadm raid1 on 500GB 7200RPM will take? Running ubuntu 14.04 lts
[21:35] <tomreyn> gmh: probably a few hours, less than 10
[21:35] <gmh> Thats good news. Couple min of google got me worried. People talking about days on 320gb :P
[21:37] <RedPenguin> According to ifconfig both Ethernet cards are up and in the bridge
[21:37] <ravenblack> any reason i cannot download ttf mscorefonts-installer
[21:37] <RedPenguin> So I don't understand why the bridged device is not getting an IP
[21:37] <RedPenguin> It's a known good NIC card
[21:37] <ravenblack> hardware issue?
[21:37]  * wlan2 is having a resolv.conf problem.
[21:37] <elias_a_> ravenblack: Nope. It is a known bug.
[21:38] <yobagme_> ravenblack: I solved my issue with that by using this recommendation http://askubuntu.com/questions/766491/failure-to-download-extra-data-files-with-ttf-mscorefonts-installer-on-ubuntu
[21:39] <Bashing-om> ravenblack: +1 on known issue : see: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2351957 for one resolution means .
[21:39] <wlan2> So I'm finding this machine constantly setting itself as resolver in /etc/resolv.conf, I don¡'t know why, if I set network-manager to set it to something else!
[21:40] <RedPenguin> I didn't have "auto" lines in my config so that may be why, trying now
[21:40] <Whiskey> Any one know if it possible to go left and right on telnet connection or if the protocol just not support it?`
[21:40] <RedPenguin> All devices worked an hour ago and just now started not bridging
[21:40] <wedgie> Whiskey: you mean move the cursor back and forth?
[21:41] <ravenblack> thanks yoba
[21:41] <Whiskey> not really i mean on my keyboard
[21:41] <wedgie> ...
[21:41] <RedPenguin> think I am going to try another NIC because the device in question keeps claiming Link, No Link, Link, No Link
[21:41] <Whiskey> no sorry
[21:41] <Whiskey> yeh cursor :D
[21:42] <wedgie> Whiskey: the protocol certainly supports it... but the remote applicatoin may not. What are you telneting to?
[21:42] <wlan2> Hmn.. for some reason I seem to have dnsmasq installed ad having problems because of it's default configuration?
[21:45] <Whiskey> an eggdrop
[21:49] <tomreyn> Whiskey: http://eggwiki.org/Telnet#telnet
[21:49] <RedPenguin> It seems putting in another NIC may have been the answer, the device isn't saying the connection is going in and out now
[21:50] <Whiskey> well it don´t really answer the question
[21:50] <Whiskey> but if telnet allows it and software may not.
[21:50] <tomreyn> Whiskey: it kind of does where it starts with "You may be interested in a better telnet client."
[21:51] <tomreyn> or you could use ctcp / dcc instead
[21:51] <tomreyn> or you could use ZNC instead.
[21:52] <Whiskey> tomreyn: so its not eggdrop it self that block it, its the software that connects to it that does?
[21:52] <Whiskey> what the hell has ZNC to do whit this :D
[21:53] <tomreyn> Whiskey: i guess its the combination of the two. ZNC has nothing to do with it other than i find it mo0re usable than eggdrops.
[21:53] <Whiskey> :)
[21:53] <Whiskey> znc is awsome
[21:53] <wedgie> not so much block as "doesn't support", but I doubt a different telnet client would give you different results
[21:53] <wedgie> but i've never used eggdrop so i don't really know
[21:54] <Whiskey> so it need to be supported in the application its connect to, always to map keys?
[21:56] <wlan2> Whisket: what is all this using telnet about anyway?
[21:56] <wlan2> Stupid tab.
[21:56] <wlan2> Whatever, bye.
[21:57] <Whiskey> its agood way to connect to it
[21:58] <RedPenguin> It's gotta be something wrong I am doing with my config of bridging
[21:58] <RedPenguin> The NIC acts completely normal in non-bridge mode
[21:59] <RedPenguin> Then starts blinking all strangely when put in bridge mode
[21:59] <RedPenguin> The lights blink off an on on the nIC
[22:06] <revolta> Hi
[22:06] <revolta> <3
[22:20] <dbristow> Any news on the 16.04.2 release?
[22:21] <k1l> dbristow: #ubuntu-releases might know
[22:23] <Flopers> hello
[22:23] <RedPenguin> Don't know why but even though the NIC card functioned in another PC perfectly, bridging only works with a different NIC card now
[22:23] <RedPenguin> Guess some PCs doesn't like some cards
[22:25] <uebera||> Hi. I'd like to invoke /sbin/partprobe using an udev rule whenever a device "/dev/mapper/*-crypt" becomes available--something along the lines of ``ACTION=="add",...,RUN+="/sbin/partprobe ..."'' (the second '...' can be omitted, though I'd like to use the device name here). Question: How to match the device name here?
[22:30] <bloop> hello
[22:30] <bloop> I am trying to use my onboard mic
[22:30] <dir> hi
[22:30] <bloop> i know it sucks but it is all i have
[22:30] <bloop> and it is only spitting out static
[22:31] <dir> mic be the fan
[22:31] <dir> te
[22:31] <bloop> what?
[22:31] <bloop> no it isnt
[22:31] <bloop> the static is way too unnatural
[22:32] <dir> got fan in the the board
[22:32] <dir> motor mite be making static
[22:33] <dir> good bye
[22:33] <bloop> tis no tit
[22:33] <bloop> tis not it
[22:34] <dir> don{t know
[22:56] <dinor> quit
[22:58] <mcoffin> nomic: Not that you care, but that mesos problem I was experiencing earlier was a kernel bug with overlayfs
[23:20] <Guestie> I go to these cyber security competitions, which I have a Ubuntu image that has been messed with. One of the things that I need to check are packages. I want to know if there's a list of packages that I can download, so I can compare what the image has installed, to what a fresh Ubuntu install would have.
[23:20] <Guestie> Where can I get this list?
[23:21] <wedgie> Guestie: check out debsums
[23:21] <ignacio> hi everyone
[23:21] <Guestie> wedgie, thanks!
[23:21] <Guestie> ignacio, hello
[23:22] <wedgie> Guestie: oh, you just want a list of default stuff.... hmm. not sure.
[23:22] <Guestie> wedgie, yeah.
[23:22] <wedgie> Guestie: wors case, install a fresh VM and run ''dpkg -l''
[23:23] <Guestie> wedgie, I would think they have that. I mean, say I burn a Ubuntu LTS 16.04 disk 2 months ago. When I install a new OS, it needs to make sure everything is up-to-date, and download all the packages. Well, there's got to be a package list to download to do that.
[23:24] <k1l> Guestie: it just gets the list from the ubuntu repos
[23:24] <Guestie> k1l, where can I get that list?
[23:24] <k1l> Guestie: and then apt will update the packages that have higher version numbers
[23:25] <k1l> Guestie: they are on the repo servers
[23:26] <Guestie> k1l, so there is a Ubuntu repo server that only contains the stuff for fresh installs?
[23:26] <k1l> Guestie: no
[23:26] <k1l> i dont understand what your "fresh install" issue is, to be honest
[23:26] <k1l> or your issue at all.
[23:27] <Guestie> k1l, I'm trying to create a script that will be able to tell me what is an "unofficial" package.
[23:28] <Guestie> Sorry that was not worded well. Have you read my initial message, k1l?
[23:29] <k1l> http://askubuntu.com/questions/57704/is-there-a-ubuntu-sanity-check
[23:31] <Guestie> k1l, not quite what I'm looking for.
[23:33] <Guestie> You have a list of packages installed on your operating system after a clean install. Without making actually making a fresh install, is there a way to get a list of what would go onto a fresh install?
[23:33] <Guestie> k1l?
[23:33] <Guestie> Make sense?
[23:35] <Apachez> any of you who have encountered an error similar to "Error when document File1 was saved: /home/user/Documents/Fileshare/File1.docx does not exist"? In my case Im trying to save to a ftp mounted through curlftpfs, using gedit to save to the same mountpoint works without problems
[23:36] <u8intux> Is Ubuntu 16.04.2 ISO available?
[23:36] <k1l> Guestie: then md5sum against the iso
[23:36] <bazhang> dpkg --get-selections > ~/InstalledPackages.list Guestie
[23:36] <bazhang> try that
[23:36] <k1l> !16.04.2 | u8intux
[23:37] <OerHeks> Guestie, do you share the competition-reward with k1l ?
[23:37] <bazhang> Guestie, you do have a ubuntu install to check this against, right?
[23:38] <Xundres> Hi, how can I set up all buttons on my mouse?
[23:39] <k1l> Guestie: i dont know if you want us to give you a working solution now when you say you want to script that :)
[23:42] <k1l> Apachez: i recall there were some issues with libreoffice once. but i dont know the specifics anymore.
[23:51] <PhoenixMage> Can anyone recommend a command line app for finding duplicate files?
[23:53] <wedgie> fdupes
[23:54] <Error|404> finddup -l
[23:54] <k1l> was fdupes or fslint the cli one? i always mix them both
[23:55] <wedgie> fdupes is cli, don't know anything about fslint
[23:55] <k1l> yeah, fslint is with gui
[23:58] <Gabros93> there is an option to automatize clonezilla?