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| bluesabre | baaaaaaaaack | 01:28 |
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| bluesabre | Unit193, we can probably say "[xubuntu-dev] Investigate Thunar patches and/or replacement file manager: TODO" is now DONE, right? | 01:29 |
| bluesabre | investigated, committed, released :) | 01:30 |
| Unit193 | Looks done to meeeee. | 01:30 |
| bluesabre | woooo! | 01:32 |
| bluesabre | I'll give that doneness to you ;) | 01:32 |
| Unit193 | All I did was the packaging. :3 | 01:36 |
| bluesabre | 100 points | 01:40 |
| bluesabre | :D | 01:40 |
| Unit193 | What's up? Anything else I can do? | 01:40 |
| bluesabre | packaging parole currently | 01:41 |
| bluesabre | if you want whisker or taskman, go for it | 01:42 |
| Unit193 | ...So I checked xfdesktop4 for bugs it closes, but forgot thunar. Dang. | 01:52 |
| Unit193 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 is real fun. | 01:53 |
| bluesabre | oh wow | 02:07 |
| Unit193 | Note to self: Don't touch thunar. | 02:09 |
| bluesabre | wow | 02:20 |
| bluesabre | I think it's safe to trust whisker gtk3 | 02:21 |
| bluesabre | I didn't even know I was running it | 02:21 |
| bluesabre | :D | 02:21 |
| Unit193 | Hah. Can likely just take the packaging from the PPA and fix d/changelog | 02:22 |
| bluesabre | indeed | 02:22 |
| bluesabre | it turns out that you've been doing all the work lately :) | 02:23 |
| Unit193 | Well, they kept spitting out releases... You can just flip the name in d/changelog, I don't mind. | 02:23 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, open xfce4-appfinder and let me know what you see | 03:20 |
| Unit193 | This sounds like a trick question. | 03:20 |
| bluesabre | :D | 03:21 |
| bluesabre | I see zero apps | 03:21 |
| Unit193 | Oh, you mean appfinder, not xfrun. I use the latter. I have no problems with appfinder/4.12.0-2ubuntu2 | 03:22 |
| bluesabre | hm | 03:22 |
| bluesabre | probably something broken on my env | 03:22 |
| bluesabre | and virtualbox crapping out | 03:22 |
| bluesabre | :D | 03:22 |
| bluesabre | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/0.9.0-0ubuntu1 | 03:37 |
| bluesabre | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/2.1.0-0ubuntu1 | 03:37 |
| bluesabre | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-taskmanager/1.2.0-0ubuntu1 | 03:37 |
| bluesabre | big day for qa tomorrow... ;) | 03:37 |
| Unit193 | That's not GTK3? | 03:41 |
| Unit193 | Huh. | 03:44 |
| bluesabre | yeah, surprised me too | 03:44 |
| bluesabre | Then I realized I read the release announcement wrong | 03:44 |
| bluesabre | "So far the Gtk3 branch already works and has feature-parity with master." | 03:44 |
| Unit193 | I read it a bit ago, nice surprise though. | 03:45 |
| bluesabre | the xprop like functionality for the processes is pretty sweet | 03:46 |
| Unit193 | Backported both to PPA anyway. | 03:46 |
| bluesabre | thanks | 03:48 |
| bluesabre | I think I'll work on getting xfce more appstream friendly next | 03:49 |
| * Unit193 shrugs. | 03:50 | |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Nono! Work on gpg signing in the release manager! :---D | 03:50 |
| bluesabre | gpg anything gets scary quick | 03:52 |
| Unit193 | Kidding, presume you've seen the xfce list. :P | 03:54 |
| bluesabre | Oh jeez, the xfce release manager needs lots of love | 04:00 |
| bluesabre | soooooo tired | 04:09 |
| bluesabre | night alllll | 04:09 |
| Unit193 | G'nighty, Sean. | 04:09 |
| flocculant | Unit193: out of cave again now ... | 07:52 |
| flocculant | bluesabre Unit193 - thanks for uploads | 07:54 |
| flocculant | I expect :p | 07:54 |
| flocculant | akxwi-dave: marked 16.04.2 ready | 07:56 |
| Unit193 | Sure, have fun. | 08:00 |
| eladhen | Hi all, Simon Steinbeiß suggested I ask here how best to help with testing Xfce. He suggested talking with flocculant and akxwi-dave. | 08:08 |
| flocculant | eladhen: I'm off shortly but, basically we here test xubuntu, which is xfce based - that said lots of xfce people in here and we also test stuff for xfce as and when asked - good place to start would perhaps be chapters 4,5 and 6 of http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/part-subteams.html | 08:17 |
| eladhen | flocculant: I understand that there's a PPA for development packages... | 08:21 |
| flocculant | well there are ppa's | 08:23 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-gtk3 is likely what he's referring to. | 08:36 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: I really hope thunar is still looking good, never really could hit that so can't dogfeed that one, but did the desktop. | 08:39 |
| Unit193 | eladhen: We're pushing some of the stable gtk3 ports to the next release, but some of the development releases we're only pushing to ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce4-gtk3 | 08:41 |
| eladhen | Unit193: will this PPA work on 16.04 or should I install 16.10? | 09:22 |
| Unit193 | Doesn't work at all on 16.04, most of the stuff is there for 16.10 but -notifyd is missing. | 09:23 |
| eladhen | Unit193: So you recommend I install 16.10 and use this PPA? | 09:27 |
| eladhen | Unit193: Or should I get a 17.04 ISO (is it available?) | 09:28 |
| Unit193 | eladhen: I'm simply telling you what's there and what isn't. Generally speaking 17.04 will have more of the components already, and has a newer GTK3 version too. | 09:30 |
| Unit193 | I'd advise more towards the development release for testing. | 09:30 |
| flocculant | eladhen: as Unit193 said - except I'd say install development version for sure :) | 11:58 |
| knome | bluesabre, ping | 12:24 |
| knome | or Unit193 works as well if he's lurking | 12:24 |
| eladhen | flocculant: So, to help testing, should I install 17.04 daily and add the ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce4-gtk3? | 15:08 |
| knome | or akxwi-dave ^ | 16:37 |
| flocculant | eladhen: yup | 16:52 |
| eladhen | flocculant: Thanks. Installing it now. | 16:55 |
| flocculant | eladhen: I am assuming you're not constrained with downloads - you'll get updates more or less daily (not massive amounts usually) | 16:58 |
| eladhen | flocculant: I'm not constrained. No problem. | 16:59 |
| flocculant | then once you've got that set up - I've been testing xfce stuff for ochosi - usually either something from him via git, or master +patches in the 17.04 xubuntu | 16:59 |
| eladhen | flocculant: Hmm... not sure what you just said there... | 17:02 |
| flocculant | eladhen: set up xubuntu 17.04 then we'll talk more :) | 17:03 |
| flocculant | ochosi: so how would I get more involved in xfce testing? is there some group? or is just a random bun fight? | 17:28 |
| eladhen | flocculant: OK, finished installing 17.04 and the gtk3 ppa. | 17:50 |
| flocculant | eladhen: ok - so now use it daily - you'll be testing both xubuntu and xfce, watch the mailing list(s), idle in here - you'll see us asking for testing on 'things' as they're required | 17:54 |
| flocculant | eladhen: also - because I don't know exactly what you asked Simon - I'm guessing at what you're aiming at ;) | 17:54 |
| flocculant | eladhen: Simon is ochosi btw | 17:56 |
| flocculant | eladhen: for some examples of what we did lately - we tested thunar with a couple of sets of patches aimed at fixing some bugs, tested a new version of notifyd, new version of taskmanager - just waiting for some more to play with | 17:58 |
| flocculant | in and out for the next hour | 17:58 |
| eladhen | flocculant: OK. I asked simon how I can help in testing Xfce. Where can I get into the relevant mailing list? | 18:27 |
| flocculant | eladhen: ok - so by testing xubuntu development - you are testing xfce. mailing list is in the docs I gave you earlier (xubuntu-devel) and I guess the xfce-devel list at https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev | 18:36 |
| eladhen | flocculant: I'm absolutely fine with testing Xubuntu along the way. :) | 18:38 |
| Unit193 | Feature Freeze. | 18:39 |
| flocculant | well - xubuntu dev version is probably in actuality pretty close to xfce dev version | 18:39 |
| flocculant | eladhen: and given that Simon got you to talk to either me or akxwi-dave - then I would guess that to be his point of view as well | 18:40 |
| flocculant | Unit193: yup | 18:40 |
| Unit193 | Either that or he said he used Ubuntu. | 18:40 |
| flocculant | :) | 18:41 |
| eladhen | flocculant: Cool | 18:41 |
| eladhen | flocculant: Well, I'm now subscribed to both lists. Thanks for the help and I hope I'll be able to help after a long while of enjoying Xfce. | 18:46 |
| Unit193 | Pretty sure xfce4-settings stuff was somewhat experimental. | 18:46 |
| flocculant | oh yea | 18:47 |
| flocculant | found issues in the 'new' | 18:47 |
| * flocculant lost track of what he looked at recently :p | 18:47 | |
| Unit193 | Pushed the new notifyd to PPA. | 19:05 |
| Unit193 | Meeting tomorrow 1700 local time work? | 20:14 |
| knome | whatever that is | 20:14 |
| knome | (: | 20:14 |
| flocculant | local to whoever doth read it? | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | 22:00:00 UTC 2017 | 20:15 |
| knome | sounds doable | 20:15 |
| flocculant | yea - wfm | 20:15 |
| knome | (i need my utc clock on the panel right away) | 20:15 |
| knome | (and i need the panel in the right spot too) | 20:15 |
| flocculant | I can manage to -1 for 6 months of the year for utc | 20:15 |
| flocculant | well for 5.5 months of the year | 20:15 |
| Unit193 | I can move it back or forward perhaps too. | 20:16 |
| knome | well 2/3 is easyish, and i do the conversion in my head but it gives me comfort to see the UTC time too... | 20:16 |
| flocculant | Unit193: that time's fine for me at least | 20:16 |
| knome | 22UTC is better than later | 20:18 |
| flocculant | I'd agree with that | 20:18 |
| knome | oh, arial | 20:20 |
| knome | oh wait, wrong channel | 20:21 |
| flocculant | :p | 20:21 |
| pleia2 | woo, lovexubuntu goodies made it safely to our winners in Sweden, Bangladesh and Israel | 20:25 |
| pleia2 | I expect the Florida one too, but I didn't ask for confirm and that one's in my country... no word from Ukraine, fingers crossed | 20:25 |
| knome | \o/ | 20:26 |
| pleia2 | I told them to contact me if they don't receive something by March | 20:26 |
| flocculant | noto ways about it knome - you beat me to the \o/ there | 20:26 |
| flocculant | pleia2: nice :) | 20:26 |
| knome | bluesabre, Unit193: PLEASE add a new default shortcut; super+S for the settings manager | 22:17 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/EvPLMvsSyXkSzXZPTy1i/ there you go! | 22:20 |
| knome | yes | 22:21 |
| knome | ;) | 22:21 |
| bluesabre | lol | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | evening all | 22:40 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | hey Unit193 | 22:40 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Meeting. | 22:46 |
| bluesabre | 5pm tomorrow | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | nope | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | Tuesday | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | Wait | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | Tomorrow | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | Dang it Unit193 | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | Tue Feb 17 22:00 UTC 2017 | 22:48 |
| Unit193 | AHahaha. :D | 22:48 |
| Unit193 | Already got an email on that. | 22:48 |
| bluesabre | :) | 22:49 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Change of plans, it's in 10 minutes! :P | 22:49 |
| bluesabre | :ooooooo | 22:49 |
| Unit193 | Never got xfdashy in. :/ | 22:57 |
| Unit193 | There's a fair number using the GTK3 PPA, now if they'd only report back.. | 23:03 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:10 |
| bluesabre | We could work on some feedback gtk modules | 23:11 |
| tracker7 | - | 23:21 |
| knome | + | 23:21 |
| Unit193 | * | 23:21 |
| bluesabre | √ | 23:42 |
| Unit193 | I figured xfce4-notifyd had new features, so not after FF hit. :P | 23:52 |
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