| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| === JanC is now known as Guest38106 | ||
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| willcooke | morning all, happy Friday | 09:00 |
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| Laney | morning | 09:01 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:02 |
| willcooke | lo Laney davmor2 | 09:02 |
| Laney | what a nice day! | 09:03 |
| * Laney has been outside tending to the worms this morning | 09:03 | |
| willcooke | Laney, did you get a wormary? | 09:03 |
| Laney | yeah, got it last year | 09:03 |
| willcooke | woo | 09:03 |
| Laney | I can't tell if any of them are still alive | 09:03 |
| willcooke | ha! | 09:03 |
| Laney | they don't do much in the winter | 09:03 |
| Laney | quite a lot of unwormed food ... | 09:03 |
| Laney | ... | 09:03 |
| Laney | when I can unwrap it in a month or so I'll dig down to the middle and see | 09:04 |
| Laney | I went to a talk by the worm lady on Tuesday | 09:05 |
| Laney | she said she puts hers indoors for winter | 09:05 |
| seb128 | good morning u.k | 09:05 |
| willcooke | hey seb128 | 09:05 |
| willcooke | Laney, have you got a shed? | 09:05 |
| Laney | hey seb128! | 09:05 |
| Laney | willcooke: nein | 09:05 |
| Laney | well, there is one at the allotment but that's not helpful :P | 09:05 |
| willcooke | . . o O (UK comes online and talk turns to sheds immediately) | 09:06 |
| Laney | it doesn't atually smell, so would be ok in the kitchen | 09:06 |
| Laney | not the most attractive object ever though | 09:06 |
| Laney | :D | 09:06 |
| willcooke | :) | 09:06 |
| Laney | what a life | 09:06 |
| Laney | seb128: how's it going? | 09:07 |
| * desrt is thinking about getting a shed | 09:07 | |
| seb128 | good, it's friday! | 09:07 |
| desrt | you know... to put stuff in | 09:07 |
| desrt | maybe like, to go and hang out in... drink a beer... | 09:07 |
| willcooke | I was going to buy a gold fish for my water butt - it could eat all the insect larvea, but the pet shop man said a) I was mental and b) you can't put a gold fish from the shop outside in winter, need to wait for summer | 09:07 |
| desrt | (i've never had a shed. am i doing this right?) | 09:07 |
| seb128 | though my back is a bit blocked, woke up yesterday with it | 09:07 |
| willcooke | desrt, a shed is a wonderful thing | 09:07 |
| * Laney gives seb128 some hot stones | 09:09 | |
| seb128 | thanks! | 09:09 |
| Laney | shed at the allotment contains tea making facilities | 09:10 |
| didrocks | hey desktoppers! :) | 09:10 |
| willcooke | morning didrocks | 09:11 |
| willcooke | didrocks, getting any sleep yet? | 09:11 |
| didrocks | willcooke: yeah, we are quite lucky, baby only wakes up when hungry | 09:11 |
| desrt | omg it's like all the favourite people | 09:11 |
| didrocks | and we finally got him to eat every 4h \o/ | 09:11 |
| desrt | :D | 09:12 |
| desrt | * dadrocks continues training | 09:12 |
| desrt | *** level up! | 09:12 |
| didrocks | yeah, clearly in progress training :) | 09:12 |
| didrocks | I don't declare victory yet, it seems you can level down quite easily :p | 09:13 |
| jbicha | good morning | 10:49 |
| Henster | whoop whoop | 10:51 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning desktopers. I'm in Blue Fin today. | 11:03 |
| flexiondotorg | Out this afternoon talking to some organisations about snaps. | 11:03 |
| davmor2 | Laney, seb128: latest round of zesty upgrade have left me with no working ethernet and no work vpn | 11:13 |
| Laney | it would be good to know what you upgraded | 11:16 |
| davmor2 | Laney: yeah just getting it from history.log | 11:17 |
| davmor2 | Laney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24013034/ | 11:17 |
| jbicha | davmor2: you use NM right? do you have -proposed enabled? | 11:17 |
| davmor2 | jbicha: yes the NM, no to proposed | 11:19 |
| didrocks | Laney: just answered you on https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/issues/53 FYI | 11:19 |
| didrocks | I'm tempted to close it, or do you have any better idea to reach the real $HOME? | 11:19 |
| didrocks | I even asked upstream to export an env variable to us, was said needing considering | 11:20 |
| Laney | hey didrocks ;-) | 11:20 |
| didrocks | happy Friday! :) | 11:21 |
| Laney | can you have a label saying that it's blocked on upstream? | 11:21 |
| Laney | well, up to you | 11:21 |
| jbicha | davmor2: 2 things that changed yesterday are network-manager and systemd | 11:21 |
| Laney | it's not that important | 11:21 |
| Laney | happy friday to youuuu | 11:21 |
| didrocks | Laney: let me see if I can create that | 11:21 |
| didrocks | done! :) | 11:22 |
| Laney | davmor2: I would ask happyaron and/or cyphermox about network stuff | 11:25 |
| Laney | didrocks: ♥ | 11:25 |
| davmor2 | jbicha: I see nm1.4.401ubuntu1 got installed as did openvpn 3.23.90-0ubuntu1 so that could well be my issue | 11:27 |
| davmor2 | Laney: will do | 11:27 |
| * Laney upgrades to experience this pain too | 11:28 | |
| Laney | huh, how did glib get in? | 11:28 |
| Laney | I was going to investigate the test failures | 11:29 |
| Laney | meh, skipped | 11:29 |
| jbicha | Laney: I uploaded gobject-introspection to zesty for you since it should be updated alongside glib | 11:30 |
| Laney | "for me" | 11:31 |
| jbicha | well if you update one, you should update the other, right? | 11:31 |
| davmor2 | Laney: that was why I had to reboot half my apps wouldn't open due to incompatibility | 11:37 |
| jbicha | willcooke: snap://moon-buggy works for me on zesty, did you kill gnome-software first (or log out and log in)? | 13:43 |
| willcooke | jbicha, hey! Yeah, I reboot as well just in case | 13:44 |
| willcooke | This is on X | 13:44 |
| willcooke | well, correection, this is on my X desktop - which maaaaaybe I've fiddled with | 13:44 |
| willcooke | I'll try it on a vanilla install | 13:44 |
| greyback | desrt: hey, could you spare me a minute to help me with a problem I'm having with gtk apps: http://imgur.com/a/vbpJe | 13:46 |
| greyback | seems there are widgets which have a background color set as fully transparent | 13:47 |
| greyback | I've no idea how that could have happened however. I've not messed with any theme afaik | 13:47 |
| willcooke | greyback, which release are you on? I think we still have some theme issues on Z | 13:47 |
| greyback | willcooke: yep, am on zesty | 13:47 |
| willcooke | I also notice that they're not the tabs with the dark and light tabs (where light is the currently selected one) | 13:48 |
| willcooke | I think this is probably "just" a theme bug | 13:48 |
| jbicha | greyback: what app is that? | 13:49 |
| greyback | willcooke: Correct. Yeah probably theme, I just wasn't sure if I had done that or not | 13:49 |
| attente | terminator? | 13:49 |
| greyback | jbicha: terminator | 13:49 |
| attente | which is gtk2 iirc | 13:49 |
| jbicha | and try setting the theme to Adwaita before blaming light-themes | 13:49 |
| willcooke | that explains the dark/light tabs then | 13:49 |
| jbicha | maybe try terminix? | 13:51 |
| greyback | jbicha: correct command? gconftool-2 --set --type string /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme Adwaita | 13:51 |
| greyback | I also see it in gcalc | 13:51 |
| greyback | just for the input widget, making it hard to use | 13:51 |
| jbicha | uh, can't you just use System Settings>Appearance to change the theme? (which uses gsettings) for Adwaita, you need to install gnome-themes-standard for gtk2 support | 13:52 |
| jbicha | honestly, I don't think I use any gtk2 apps any more (I don't think chromium-browser really counts here) | 13:54 |
| greyback | jbicha: adwaita theme does fix the issue, thanks. But I'm not a fan of the theme :) | 13:55 |
| qengho | FWIW, the Chromium coming up in ~10 weeks switches to GTK3. | 13:56 |
| jbicha | greyback: thanks, that confirms it's probably light-themes then | 13:56 |
| greyback | for the record, I'm using the default ubuntu "Ambiance" theme | 13:57 |
| jbicha | qengho: say hi to Trump tomorrow, he's campaigning in Orlando to be President of the US I here | 13:57 |
| greyback | ah, light-themes supplies Ambiance. Ok, now I follow | 13:58 |
| jbicha | I hear | 13:58 |
| qengho | Don't troll me. | 14:00 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: Laney: on upgrade for zesty; you get a new openvpn which gets rid of an old deprecated option that we use for the Canonical VPN | 14:11 |
| cyphermox | you'll want to replace tls-remote with verify-x509-name in the config if you use openvpn directly (along with the relevant changes to its value), or in the NM openvpn config, change a drop-down in the advanced window | 14:12 |
| cyphermox | under TLS Authentication, the first drop-down should now be "Verify name exactly", and you want to remove "/CN=" | 14:13 |
| cyphermox | ^ this is relevant to anyone who upgraded openvpn or is about to, really. | 14:14 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: that might be a good one to send out to allhands maybe | 14:19 |
| seb128 | k, I'm dropping from IRC a bit earlier today, going to a weeding this w.e so taking the train, going to work offline a bit there (or might be back online if they have wifi working) | 14:28 |
| seb128 | have a nice w.e desktopers | 14:29 |
| willcooke | see ya seb128 ! | 14:29 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: yeah, IS is supposed to. | 14:29 |
| desrt | have fun seb128 ! | 14:29 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:30 |
| Laney | greyback: terminator became gtk3 | 14:41 |
| Laney | try this: https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/terminator/gtk3.20-embedded-css/+merge/316094 | 14:41 |
| Laney | I should probably upload that | 14:41 |
| greyback | Laney: cool, let me try that | 14:43 |
| greyback | Laney: works! Thank you | 14:49 |
| Laney | no worries | 14:58 |
| attente | desrt: hey, how do you test your proxy? | 14:59 |
| Laney | cyphermox: thx for the tip | 14:59 |
| Laney | actually the config had it in already but commented out | 14:59 |
| desrt | attente: i get a shell inside of a confined app and i send messages | 14:59 |
| Laney | with a note saying that NM wanted the old thing :) | 15:00 |
| desrt | attente: but you can also get the dconf library built in the branch and set an envvar to tell it to talk to the proxy | 15:00 |
| attente | desrt: does that mean you have multiple running instances of dconf-service? | 15:00 |
| desrt | no | 15:01 |
| desrt | the proxy is a separate process | 15:01 |
| desrt | i use the proxy from the tree against the system dconf service | 15:02 |
| desrt | you always have one system dconf and one proxy | 15:02 |
| desrt | wanna duo? | 15:02 |
| attente | desrt: sure | 15:04 |
| desrt | "william hua is unavailable" | 15:05 |
| desrt | i wait for you to call me :) | 15:05 |
| attente | duo needs camera and microphone access o.O | 15:06 |
| desrt | ! those assholes | 15:06 |
| Laney | funky song funky song | 16:22 |
| Laney | 1) just saw a man shouting at a pigeon for flying too close to the main road | 17:16 |
| Laney | 2) going to take off a few minutes early to catch a choo choo | 17:16 |
| willcooke | LOL | 17:41 |
| willcooke | Have a good one Laney | 17:41 |
| willcooke | jbicha, installed a vm with Xenial and still broken here | 18:17 |
| willcooke | right, night all, hope you have a good weekend. | 18:23 |
| === JanC is now known as Guest50386 | ||
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| Henster | hey guys is there a official ubuntu server general chat? | 22:12 |
| sarnold | Henster: there's #ubuntu-server but it's perhaps more focussed than most people would associate with "general chat" | 22:29 |
| Henster | @sarnold sweet thanks | 23:43 |
| meetingology | Henster: Error: "sarnold" is not a valid command. | 23:43 |
| flocculant | :) | 23:45 |
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