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[12:37] <ricotz> jbicha, hi, would be better to rename gir1.2-mutter-3.0 to gir1.2-mutter-0 too?
[13:31] <jbicha> ricotz: to fix the gjs autopkgtests, I'm told I need to compile mozjs38 --with-intl-api but when I try that I get
[13:31] <jbicha> cannot determine icu version number from uvernum.h header file
[13:31] <jbicha> I added libicu-dev to Build-Depends
[13:40] <jbicha> hmm, looking at build/autoconf/icu.m4
[14:49] <jbicha> ricotz: bug 1665573 (I'll probably close the bug as NOTUBUNTU)
[14:49] <ubot5> bug 1665573 in wine (Ubuntu) "package libwine-dev (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/wine/libaclui.def', which is also in package wine1.8-amd64 1:1.8.6-0ubuntu1~17.04~ricotz1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1665573
[14:51] <jbicha> The Debian packages mostly synced to Ubuntu now are just wine and wine-development (wine-development is just the newer wine)
[14:56] <ninja85a> hello can anyone help me with a problem?
[14:57] <muelli> sure ninja85a. Read http://rurounijones.github.io/blog/2009/03/17/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
[15:01] <ninja85a> well ive tried to install this extension https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/120/system-monitor/ and it said i need gir1.2-gtop-2.0 and gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0
[15:01] <ninja85a> so i installed them
[15:01] <ninja85a> but it didnt show up on the top bar
[15:01] <ninja85a> and when i tried to remove it
[15:02] <ninja85a> it came with a error on the extenstions page
[15:34] <pchoo> Hi all, would this be the right place to ask about Optimus related things?
[15:35] <pchoo> A while ago I tried installing some nVidia drivers for my card (940m) and it broke gdm on boot.  I got round this by installing lightdm, but have since reverted to intel graphics only.
[15:36] <pchoo> I'd like to get the nvidia card up and running, and take advantage of the card, seeing as I have it. I think the last drivers i tried were 364, or there abouts, does anyone know if there have been any advances in the drivers?
[15:48] <jbicha> pchoo: I think if we had someone good with nvidia, we wouldn't still have the major gdm bug for the past year
[15:49] <pchoo> jbicha: Ok, Thanks for a response.  After I'd asked those questions, I found this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1559576
[15:49] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1559576 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Xenial) "Ubuntu GNOME boots to black screen when using proprietary Nvidia drivers" [Critical,Triaged]
[15:49] <pchoo> post #106 suggests that the latest version is fine?
[15:49] <jbicha> yes, that's the bug I was talking about
[15:50] <jbicha> no idea, I don't use nvidia
[15:50] <pchoo> Sorry, I don't know why I had an question mark on that.
[15:51] <pchoo> jbicha: OK, thanks for responding. I might have a play soon and report back, although I'm fairly new to digging around in linux
[15:53] <pchoo> I know it's off topic, but Iw as wondering if you could point me in the right direction for dual booting?  Specifically I want to have two installations of ubuntu gnome (so that I don't have to wipe out my current work set up)
[15:54] <jbicha> try #ubuntu
[15:54] <pchoo> Ok, Thanks
[16:41] <mike602> this chat stays quiet huh? lol
[17:42] <ernstp> so mutter and gnome-shell 3.22.3 was just released...
[17:42] <ernstp> should be easy updates for gnome3-staging/yakkety!
[17:48] <jbicha> ernstp: are you interested in doing packaging?
[17:49] <ernstp> jbicha: sure!
[17:49] <ernstp> I can try it in my ppa first... ?
[17:51] <jbicha> I'll do mutter since I can basically copy it over from Debian unstable, but feel free to work on gnome-shell
[17:53] <ernstp> oh they have it in debian already... is there a delta in gnome-shell or what's the holdup there?
[17:53] <teward> fun fact: you can always test packaging in a PPA to make sure it builds :P
[17:54] <teward> (it's what I do in addition to local builds for server team stuff, and for install tests when I ask others to test)
[17:54] <ernstp> yeah that was my plan, I have a tiny ppa already :-)
[17:54] <mike602> tried looking at the ubuntu gnome site and dind't see an area to contribute with money :(
[17:54] <ernstp> nobody uses dgit or git-buildpackage or anything like that btw?
[17:56] <ernstp> I would love to fork ubuntu-gnome/gnome-shell on github and submit a version update as a pullrequest :-)
[18:10] <ernstp> jbicha: so 3.22.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10.1 or what... ?
[20:33] <jbicha> ernstp: that version number is fine
[20:34] <jbicha> the ubuntu16.10.1 version style is actually because I used backportpackage for a package from either Debian or a newer Ubuntu
[20:34] <jbicha> for this, I might use 3.22.3-0ubuntu0~ppa1
[20:35] <jbicha> personally, I was waiting on Debian's pkg-gnome to convert their packaging from svn to git to really do much with git for GNOME stuff
[20:36] <jbicha> for stuff that's co-maintained with Ubuntu Desktop, we use bzr https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/
[22:46] <ernstp> jbicha: https://launchpad.net/~ernstp/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/7494359/+listing-archive-extra
[22:56] <jbicha> ernstp: great, did you run the new version?
[22:58] <ernstp> let me test it a few minutes :-)
[23:01] <ernstp> jbicha: yey, instantly reloading desktop files!! :-)
[23:01] <ernstp> it's magic...
[23:01] <ernstp>  * Reload apps on .desktop file content changes [Adrian; #773636]
[23:42] <ernstp> jbicha: so yeah looking good, running it for a bit now
[23:45] <jbicha> cool, I'll push that to the gnome3 staging ppa
[23:46] <jbicha> ernstp: what do you want to work on next? :)