wildlander | vlt, leave your bug in ->> https://github.com/mate-desktop/marco/issues | 00:04 |
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wildlander | :) | 00:04 |
wildlander | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2nxyEIf74 | 00:07 |
wildlander | to change marco | 00:07 |
junior | ola | 00:44 |
junior | pessoal | 00:44 |
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=== Forgorg is now known as jcjordyn120 | ||
alkisg | vlt: I don't think marco supports arrow keys in alt+tab switching. It does support alt+tab for next and alt+shift+tab for previous. Does it work for you with the guest account? | 06:07 |
vlt | alkisg: I haven't tried especially the guest account but 3 other regular accounts. Alt+Tabbing more than one window doesn't work :-/ | 07:10 |
alkisg | vlt: which mate version is that? | 07:13 |
alkisg | I've never seen that happen; e.g. does it also happen for you in the live cd? | 07:13 |
vlt | alkisg: This is the default "ubuntu-mate-desktop" package on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. | 07:55 |
vlt | Haven't checked the live cd. | 07:55 |
alkisg | vlt: I'm asking because many people add the ppa to get mate 1.14 | 07:55 |
sorinello_ | Hello. Is Ubuntu made only for Apple Macs ? | 08:55 |
sorinello_ | because the description from the recommended architecture is extremely confusing for a newcommer | 08:55 |
alkisg | Where did you see that? | 08:57 |
* alkisg doesn't even find the word "apple" anywhere in https://ubuntu-mate.org/ | 08:58 | |
sorinello_ | alkisg, Download -> Ubuntu Mate 16.10 -> 64-bit last bullet" Modern Intel-based Apple Macs" | 09:00 |
sorinello_ | it sounds like it's made for Apple Mac :)) | 09:00 |
sorinello_ | even though, I don't see Apple in the contributors list in the About Section | 09:01 |
* sorinello_ is confused | 09:01 | |
alkisg | That's the 3rd option, see also the first 2 ones | 09:01 |
sorinello_ | First one is 64-bit, second is 32-bit, 3rd is PowerPC, 4th is Raspberry PI | 09:02 |
alkisg | Right, so it supports many architectures, not just applet | 09:06 |
sorinello_ | I know. It's just confusin for someone looking the "PC" keyword | 09:07 |
sorinello_ | just wanted to make you aware of the confusion | 09:07 |
alkisg | someone that doesn't know that pc is 64bit? | 09:13 |
Astro7467 | think the confusion is if you read the list as 'and' but is a 'or' list - 1st two points for 64-bit & 32-bit can lead to the impression of 'and' | 09:14 |
alkisg | Maybe it should be, x86 64-bit | 09:14 |
mate|70256 | hi, but mate 16.04.2 don't come with the new kernel and the new xorg stack? | 09:29 |
alkisg | It should, where did you see that it doesn't? | 09:30 |
mate|70256 | I'm asking I don't have seen news about it. | 09:32 |
Astro7467 | kernel would stay at latest 4.4. suspect new xorg out cos it would not be stable, else break something | 09:36 |
Astro7467 | 16.04.x is LTS, so the updates are typically patches or security related | 09:37 |
alkisg | Astro7467: afaik, 16.04.2 means kernel 4.8 | 09:38 |
alkisg | http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-2-lts-officially-released-with-linux-kernel-4-8-from-ubuntu-16-10-512758.shtml | 09:38 |
mate|70256 | yes, but the HWE packs for the Kernel and X aren't automatically installed onto existing non-point-release installs of Ubuntu. | 09:40 |
Astro7467 | sounds like it installs HWE - that's new but seems like a good idea for desktops | 09:41 |
sorinello_ | alkisg, Astro7467 : I didn't understood from the start, why do you specify Apple Macs there ? | 09:42 |
sorinello_ | I there any marketing gain from this ? | 09:42 |
sorinello_ | *is | 09:42 |
sorinello_ | why it is more for macs than for PC's ? | 09:42 |
Astro7467 | it's a suggested list of 'suitable for' | 09:43 |
mate|70256 | @Astro7467 is good for desktops that use amd, the new kernel and the new xorg stack seems to be very good | 09:43 |
mate|70256 | i tried to upgrade with the command sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 but seems that this remove mate desktop | 09:45 |
Astro7467 | sorinello_, Apple's are called out specifically because they aren't PCs and have their own set of challenges.. I mean hardware stack that's different from normal PC | 09:46 |
Astro7467 | mate|70256: I guessing the repos aren't updated yet from my own dist-upgrade attempts | 09:48 |
alkisg | (11:41:56 πμ) Astro7467: sounds like it installs HWE - that's new but seems like a good idea for desktops ==> it's been that way since at least 12.04... | 10:01 |
alkisg | Astro7467: dist-upgrade won't get you to a newer hwe stack | 10:02 |
alkisg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 10:04 |
Astro7467 | I hv the HWE meta-packages on my systems as my std config - just didn't know it was turned on during point releases previously tho | 10:04 |
alkisg | Eeesh trying to install the hwe stack uninstalls mate-desktop!!! | 10:17 |
alkisg | flexiondotorg: ^ | 10:17 |
alkisg | sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 | 10:17 |
alkisg | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 10:18 |
alkisg | ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop ... | 10:18 |
Astro7467 | alkisg - is it the --install-recommends causing the issue? I just tried without and no MATE packages listed for removal - xorg's only | 10:23 |
alkisg | Astro7467: do you have those mate packages installed? | 10:23 |
alkisg | Or, do you have some ppa? | 10:23 |
alkisg | I'm using a completely stock 16.04 installation with no mate PPAs involved | 10:24 |
alkisg | I do wonder how 16.04.2 mate CDs could be produced then, if hwe breaks mate-desktop... | 10:24 |
Astro7467 | I'm 16.04 stock - plus MATE PPA's | 10:25 |
Astro7467 | I just added the --install-recommends and no MATE packages listed | 10:25 |
alkisg | What's the output of: apt show ubuntu-mate-desktop | grep Depends | 10:26 |
alkisg | For me, it depends on xserver-xorg, so it gets uninstalled | 10:26 |
Astro7467 | ^ ..xorg, xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-input-all, xserver-xorg-video-all,.. | 10:28 |
alkisg | And you do have that installed, right? | 10:29 |
alkisg | dpkg -l ubuntu-mate-desktop | 10:29 |
Astro7467 | no, don't have - I was doing a dpkg --list | grep -mate- | 10:30 |
Astro7467 | no -core or -desktop | 10:30 |
Astro7467 | guessing the PPA's broke them out | 10:30 |
alkisg | Probably, you can search in /var/log/apt/history.log to see when and how they got uninstalled | 10:30 |
Astro7467 | neither -core nor -desktop mentioned in my apt/history.log | 10:38 |
Astro7467 | hangon, it's been archived a few times | 10:39 |
alkisg | OK, this one does work: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-16.04 | 10:51 |
Astro7467 | I found the -desktop & -core removals - but unable to determine from the apt hist & term logs what caused them to be | 10:53 |
Astro7467 | suspect PPA | 10:53 |
alkisg | Check the apt command line that is logged at that point | 11:02 |
alkisg | E.g. Command: apt-get install xxx | 11:02 |
Astro7467 | the cmd at that point looks to be a the install of hplp pkgs - was hoping to tie the removal with PPA install | 11:16 |
ubuntu-mate | hi | 12:09 |
GMD | hi, do you know if 16.04.2 is somehow delayed for UbuMATE? i see that people have new point release already, but my installations (also Xubuntu one) are still on .1 version | 13:22 |
alkisg | GMD: cat /etc/os-release, says .1? | 13:23 |
GMD | yes | 13:24 |
alkisg | sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 13:24 |
alkisg | Do you get updates packages after that? | 13:24 |
GMD | already done it | 13:24 |
GMD | everything up to date | 13:25 |
alkisg | apt-cache policy base-files | 13:25 |
alkisg | Output of that? | 13:25 |
GMD | http://pastebin.com/3e5LjRDi | 13:26 |
alkisg | Your mirror doesn't have the latest packages yet | 13:27 |
alkisg | If you're in a hurry, you can run: software-properties-gtk, | 13:27 |
alkisg | and select the main mirror | 13:27 |
GMD | oh, i haven't thought about that; i was just curious what's happening, i'll wait | 13:28 |
GMD | thanks a lot | 13:28 |
alkisg | np | 13:28 |
mate|70256 | why this command sudo apt install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 remove ubuntu-mate-core and ubuntu-mate-desktop? | 15:00 |
mate|70256 | how to update the hdw stack? | 15:01 |
alkisg | mate|70256: do this: | 15:02 |
alkisg | sudo apt install xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-16.04 | 15:02 |
alkisg | It seems like a bug in the ubuntu-mate-core dependencies... | 15:03 |
alkisg | But that command should bypass it | 15:03 |
mate|70256 | alkisg: but this command change only the graphical stack. And to change the kernel? | 15:04 |
alkisg | mate|70256: you should see it pulling the kernel too | 15:05 |
mate|70256 | alkisg: have you updated? | 15:07 |
alkisg | mate|70256: yes | 15:07 |
alkisg | I'm on kernel 4.8 now, with that command, a few hours ago | 15:07 |
mate|70256 | alkisg: what do you think worth the upgrade? | 15:08 |
alkisg | mate|70256: I didn't do any serious tests; but glxgears in vbox said 700 fps before, 850 after | 15:09 |
mate|70256 | alkisg: yep, seems nice. I have an amd apu and 2 amd gpu? I'm going to upgrade. | 15:10 |
mate|70256 | alkisg: thanks for your help, the commands that you have given me works perfectly | 15:10 |
alkisg | Cool | 15:11 |
wildlander | ubuntu-mate 16.04.2 was released. | 18:02 |
wildlander | yay! | 18:02 |
paiva | oi | 18:35 |
paiva | alguem fala portugues | 18:36 |
paiva | oi, tudo bem | 18:38 |
alvaro | hola | 20:29 |
alvaro | muy buenas | 20:29 |
DarkPsydeLord | oi | 21:23 |
DarkPsydeLord | eu falo | 21:23 |
DarkPsydeLord | oh! too late | 21:23 |
Menzador | Abla Português? | 21:23 |
Menzador | Too late for what? > Dark | 21:26 |
Menzador | DarkPsydeLord: ^ | 21:26 |
DarkPsydeLord | i know Menzador... i talk 3 more languages | 21:27 |
Menzador | *speak | 21:27 |
DarkPsydeLord | no | 21:27 |
Menzador | You speak them | 21:27 |
DarkPsydeLord | i talk with people in 3 other languages they kind of look at me thinking whats wrong with this guy | 21:27 |
DarkPsydeLord | and they leave | 21:28 |
DarkPsydeLord | usualy im alone because of this | 21:28 |
DarkPsydeLord | :( its sad | 21:28 |
crankypuss | howdy all. i notice knode is not in the repo for 16.4 so is the only GUI nntp client in the repo icedove aka thunderbird? tia. | 22:47 |
crankypuss | test | 23:35 |
crankypuss | cool... | 23:35 |
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