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davmor2Morning all09:03
popeyyo09:03
davmor2popey: I love you pew pew pew announcements because I can hear you saying it in your I'm a big kids voice ;)09:07
popeyhah09:11
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:31
SuperMattmorning09:45
diddledan£500 for a mobo?! http://www.ebuyer.com/769274-gigabyte-intel-aorus-ga-z270x-gaming-9-lga-1151-e-atx-motherboard-ga-z270x-gaming-912:36
zmoylan-piaimed at gamers... they'll pay silly money for things... bless them... :-)12:38
popeyhaha, all those LEDs12:38
diddledanyeah I was laffin at the LEDs12:39
zmoylan-piand also only £499.94... so 6p short of 500 quid... so a bargain... :-P12:39
zmoylan-pithat's probably enough for a pack of noodles to last you till you can afford real food again...12:42
awilkinsBut light up RAM sockets!13:26
awilkinsWho wouldn't want those!13:26
awilkinsI constantly stare at my RAM sockets when playing games thinking "I could headshot that guy much better if only my RAM was better illuminated."13:26
SuperMattyeah, I've never understood gaming cases either13:30
zmoylan-piall the moth wings flapping after been attracted by the light adds to cooling13:32
zmoylan-pihmmm, i think google is going full evil trying to make us train their terminators... https://imgur.com/gallery/VgxcD13:39
foobarrycan anyone recommend a car dash cam?13:41
foobarryreasonably priced...13:42
zmoylan-piisn't there an app to make your phone do that?13:42
diddledanzmoylan-pi: wtf @ terminator school13:43
zmoylan-piit's just a cool new a.i. called skynet... :-P13:51
m0nkey_foobarry, I have the DOD LS360W15:15
m0nkey_I bought mine using Canadian monopoly money, so it's not that expensive15:16
m0nkey_cost me $150 CAD, so in GBP, probably be picked up for around 100.15:16
m0nkey_or maybe less15:16
foobarryoof, still quite a lot though :(15:17
m0nkey_It's a good dashcam. The recording quality is pretty good.15:18
m0nkey_I looked at cheaper ones, but could never properly read license plates when playing back, or sometimes it picks up a lot of vibration. this one is clear, barely any vibration..15:19
SuperEngineerIs tere a diddledan on this flight?  If so, can you please make yourself known to the cabin staff.19:23
SuperEngineerReaso0n:  corebird-diddledan has a problem19:24
SuperEngineerhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24015321/19:24
SuperEngineerhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24015321/19:24
SuperEngineerCorebird ["normal"] was uninstalled  - system restarted [yawn].19:25
diddledanno idea why you're getting that19:25
SuperEngineersnap install seemed ok, but gave above message upon request pin19:26
SuperEngineerso snap remove'd it, restarted, tried the snap via Ubuntu software, restarted [yawn].... same result19:27
diddledantry installing with sudo - if that works then there's a snapd bug19:27
SuperEngineerupon next restart [yawn] "Ubuntu has encountered an internal error... etc19:28
SuperEngineerIt was installed with sudo19:28
diddledanwhich version of ubuntu?19:29
SuperEngineer[the "internal" error was given the go ahead to report itself btw]19:29
diddledanI'll dupe your setup19:29
SuperEngineer16.04.2 [ also happened when tried when it was still 16.04.1]19:29
diddledandid you login to the snap store or leave it logged-out?19:30
SuperEngineerdunno [first attempt was via "sudo snap install corebird-diddledan]19:31
SuperEngineerafter fail, sudo snapo remove same19:31
SuperEngineerrestarted, then tried via Ubuntu Software19:32
SuperEngineersame result19:32
diddledanok19:32
diddledanjust waiting till the iso downloads before I spin-up a vm19:32
SuperEngineer..and this is not a complaint... this is, hopefully of help to you19:33
diddledanyeah, I'm not sure where the problem is, but I'm hoping it can be isolated. I think it is a bug in snapd19:34
SuperEngineeroooo19:35
SuperEngineer[if it is of help - other snaps installed and all fully ok are:19:35
SuperEngineerDekko, hMyGirraffe, LibreOffice, PlanetLander19:36
SuperEngineer^OhMyGirrafe....    highly recommended for a llaugh btw19:37
diddledanI wonder if I can automate creating test environments with powershell...?19:39
diddledan(I'm on 'dows right now :-p)19:40
diddledannearly installed19:40
SuperEngineerwell, if nothing else, this is teaching patience :D19:41
diddledanwhen it works corebird is great :-)19:41
diddledanwhat's really confusing is I've installed personally on multiple setups (mostly VM) and had it work ootb19:42
SuperEngineeryeah, I had it already installed before trying the snap, like it a lot.  [but it was fully removed prior to the snap install and a restart [yawn] done to ensure clean memory etc19:43
diddledanI'm gonna try that scenario specifically I think19:44
SuperEngineercould it be that snap is finding something to do with the previous apt version, I wonder19:44
diddledanoh one thought, try running a sudo snap refresh core19:45
SuperEngineeryeak, thanks. I think if the snap was a total snafu, you'd have heard by now.  It may be something to do with a sys that has previousdly had an apt vewrsion on it.19:46
SuperEngineernow running the above suggeation19:46
SuperEngineer"snap "core" has no updates available"19:47
diddledanok. from a clean install (sparkly!) the steps to get a working install are : sudo apt install snapd-xdg-open; sudo snap install corebird-diddledan; /snap/bin/corebird-diddledan.corebird19:47
diddledannow let me try another clean install with corebird installed via apt first19:48
SuperEngineerhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24015505/ may be of interest19:50
diddledanit's not an issue with corebird having been installed and active (logged-into twitter) beforehand19:58
SuperEngineerhmmmmmmmmmmm....19:59
diddledanI just cannot get it to not work unless I don't install snapd-xdg-open (but you've got that already so that's not an issue)19:59
diddledantriple negative!20:00
SuperEngineerit must be something to do with this here system of mine... "something"  :-(20:01
diddledanI have no idea what tho20:01
diddledancan you paste the output of `snap version` ?20:02
diddledanmine is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/2401555720:02
SuperEngineermine is at https://paste.ubuntu.com/24015564/20:04
diddledanso you're running the same tooling as me then, not an issue there >.<20:04
SuperEngineeragreed20:04
* SuperEngineer thinks best thing is for me to "sleep on this" and see if brain has any ideas in the morning20:05
diddledantry popping along to #snappy in the morrow to see if the gurus can be any more help than my flailing :-D20:06
diddledanI think we can say _something_ specific to the evolution of your system has conflicted with snappy, but finding out what that something is I think is gonna be a guessing game and prodding bits n pieces until something skewiff turns-up20:07
SuperEngineerwell, the way that was put, at least I've now now got a smile/grin on my face ;-)20:07
SuperEngineerand thanks for all the effort20:08
diddledananytime :-)20:08
diddledanI really wanna know what the problem is - I hate when things are odd for a really small population20:09
diddledan"works on my machine" doesn't really help20:09
SuperEngineerI will keep you updated with thoughts/efforts/attempts and hopefully, with what made it work.../me does precautionary restart [yawn]20:10
diddledanyou'll get cooties from all this rebooting :-p20:10
SuperEngineeryikes!20:10
SuperEngineerrun.... COOTIES20:11
diddledanI prefer cuties!20:11
SuperEngineerditto20:11
diddledantwitter.com/emergencykittens ftw20:11
zmoylan-pino no, cooties only come from windows reboots... linux doesn't reboot often enough for an organism to live off reboots... :-P20:11
diddledanoh capitalisaion: https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens20:12
diddledanoh they mispelled emergency20:12
SuperEngineerEK on twitter is highly recommended by me... so that means absolutely not recommended for all20:13
diddledanhere's a cutie for the brain: https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/83246589750360064020:13
SuperEngineer[e.g. not for dog owners]20:13
diddledanfor dog owners, there's https://twitter.com/CuteEmergency/status/83205440562083020820:15
diddledanwow, this cat is pretty af https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/83086531518569677020:18
SuperEngineerbeware if doing a search for eith the kittens or non-kittens feeds... there are several spoof accounts on twitter and they may not be "friendly"20:19
SuperEngineer^either20:19
SuperEngineercooties time!20:19
diddledan\o/20:19
SuperEngineersorry, meant "restart time"20:20

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