[09:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:03] <popey> yo
[09:07] <davmor2> popey: I love you pew pew pew announcements because I can hear you saying it in your I'm a big kids voice ;)
[09:11] <popey> hah
[09:31] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:45] <SuperMatt> morning
[12:36] <diddledan> £500 for a mobo?! http://www.ebuyer.com/769274-gigabyte-intel-aorus-ga-z270x-gaming-9-lga-1151-e-atx-motherboard-ga-z270x-gaming-9
[12:38] <zmoylan-pi> aimed at gamers... they'll pay silly money for things... bless them... :-)
[12:38] <popey> haha, all those LEDs
[12:39] <diddledan> yeah I was laffin at the LEDs
[12:39] <zmoylan-pi> and also only £499.94... so 6p short of 500 quid... so a bargain... :-P
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> that's probably enough for a pack of noodles to last you till you can afford real food again...
[13:26] <awilkins> But light up RAM sockets!
[13:26] <awilkins> Who wouldn't want those!
[13:26] <awilkins> I constantly stare at my RAM sockets when playing games thinking "I could headshot that guy much better if only my RAM was better illuminated."
[13:30] <SuperMatt> yeah, I've never understood gaming cases either
[13:32] <zmoylan-pi> all the moth wings flapping after been attracted by the light adds to cooling
[13:39] <zmoylan-pi> hmmm, i think google is going full evil trying to make us train their terminators... https://imgur.com/gallery/VgxcD
[13:41] <foobarry> can anyone recommend a car dash cam?
[13:42] <foobarry> reasonably priced...
[13:42] <zmoylan-pi> isn't there an app to make your phone do that?
[13:43] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: wtf @ terminator school
[13:51] <zmoylan-pi> it's just a cool new a.i. called skynet... :-P
[15:15] <m0nkey_> foobarry, I have the DOD LS360W
[15:16] <m0nkey_> I bought mine using Canadian monopoly money, so it's not that expensive
[15:16] <m0nkey_> cost me $150 CAD, so in GBP, probably be picked up for around 100.
[15:16] <m0nkey_> or maybe less
[15:17] <foobarry> oof, still quite a lot though :(
[15:18] <m0nkey_> It's a good dashcam. The recording quality is pretty good.
[15:19] <m0nkey_> I looked at cheaper ones, but could never properly read license plates when playing back, or sometimes it picks up a lot of vibration. this one is clear, barely any vibration..
[19:23] <SuperEngineer> Is tere a diddledan on this flight?  If so, can you please make yourself known to the cabin staff.
[19:24] <SuperEngineer> Reaso0n:  corebird-diddledan has a problem
[19:24] <SuperEngineer> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24015321/
[19:24] <SuperEngineer> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24015321/
[19:25] <SuperEngineer> Corebird ["normal"] was uninstalled  - system restarted [yawn].
[19:25] <diddledan> no idea why you're getting that
[19:26] <SuperEngineer> snap install seemed ok, but gave above message upon request pin
[19:27] <SuperEngineer> so snap remove'd it, restarted, tried the snap via Ubuntu software, restarted [yawn].... same result
[19:27] <diddledan> try installing with sudo - if that works then there's a snapd bug
[19:28] <SuperEngineer> upon next restart [yawn] "Ubuntu has encountered an internal error... etc
[19:28] <SuperEngineer> It was installed with sudo
[19:29] <diddledan> which version of ubuntu?
[19:29] <SuperEngineer> [the "internal" error was given the go ahead to report itself btw]
[19:29] <diddledan> I'll dupe your setup
[19:29] <SuperEngineer> 16.04.2 [ also happened when tried when it was still 16.04.1]
[19:30] <diddledan> did you login to the snap store or leave it logged-out?
[19:31] <SuperEngineer> dunno [first attempt was via "sudo snap install corebird-diddledan]
[19:31] <SuperEngineer> after fail, sudo snapo remove same
[19:32] <SuperEngineer> restarted, then tried via Ubuntu Software
[19:32] <SuperEngineer> same result
[19:32] <diddledan> ok
[19:32] <diddledan> just waiting till the iso downloads before I spin-up a vm
[19:33] <SuperEngineer> ..and this is not a complaint... this is, hopefully of help to you
[19:34] <diddledan> yeah, I'm not sure where the problem is, but I'm hoping it can be isolated. I think it is a bug in snapd
[19:35] <SuperEngineer> oooo
[19:35] <SuperEngineer> [if it is of help - other snaps installed and all fully ok are:
[19:36] <SuperEngineer> Dekko, hMyGirraffe, LibreOffice, PlanetLander
[19:37] <SuperEngineer> ^OhMyGirrafe....    highly recommended for a llaugh btw
[19:39] <diddledan> I wonder if I can automate creating test environments with powershell...?
[19:40] <diddledan> (I'm on 'dows right now :-p)
[19:40] <diddledan> nearly installed
[19:41] <SuperEngineer> well, if nothing else, this is teaching patience :D
[19:41] <diddledan> when it works corebird is great :-)
[19:42] <diddledan> what's really confusing is I've installed personally on multiple setups (mostly VM) and had it work ootb
[19:43] <SuperEngineer> yeah, I had it already installed before trying the snap, like it a lot.  [but it was fully removed prior to the snap install and a restart [yawn] done to ensure clean memory etc
[19:44] <diddledan> I'm gonna try that scenario specifically I think
[19:44] <SuperEngineer> could it be that snap is finding something to do with the previous apt version, I wonder
[19:45] <diddledan> oh one thought, try running a sudo snap refresh core
[19:46] <SuperEngineer> yeak, thanks. I think if the snap was a total snafu, you'd have heard by now.  It may be something to do with a sys that has previousdly had an apt vewrsion on it.
[19:46] <SuperEngineer> now running the above suggeation
[19:47] <SuperEngineer> "snap "core" has no updates available"
[19:47] <diddledan> ok. from a clean install (sparkly!) the steps to get a working install are : sudo apt install snapd-xdg-open; sudo snap install corebird-diddledan; /snap/bin/corebird-diddledan.corebird
[19:48] <diddledan> now let me try another clean install with corebird installed via apt first
[19:50] <SuperEngineer> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24015505/ may be of interest
[19:58] <diddledan> it's not an issue with corebird having been installed and active (logged-into twitter) beforehand
[19:59] <SuperEngineer> hmmmmmmmmmmm....
[19:59] <diddledan> I just cannot get it to not work unless I don't install snapd-xdg-open (but you've got that already so that's not an issue)
[20:00] <diddledan> triple negative!
[20:01] <SuperEngineer> it must be something to do with this here system of mine... "something"  :-(
[20:01] <diddledan> I have no idea what tho
[20:02] <diddledan> can you paste the output of `snap version` ?
[20:02] <diddledan> mine is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015557
[20:04] <SuperEngineer> mine is at https://paste.ubuntu.com/24015564/
[20:04] <diddledan> so you're running the same tooling as me then, not an issue there >.<
[20:04] <SuperEngineer> agreed
[20:05]  * SuperEngineer thinks best thing is for me to "sleep on this" and see if brain has any ideas in the morning
[20:06] <diddledan> try popping along to #snappy in the morrow to see if the gurus can be any more help than my flailing :-D
[20:07] <diddledan> I think we can say _something_ specific to the evolution of your system has conflicted with snappy, but finding out what that something is I think is gonna be a guessing game and prodding bits n pieces until something skewiff turns-up
[20:07] <SuperEngineer> well, the way that was put, at least I've now now got a smile/grin on my face ;-)
[20:08] <SuperEngineer> and thanks for all the effort
[20:08] <diddledan> anytime :-)
[20:09] <diddledan> I really wanna know what the problem is - I hate when things are odd for a really small population
[20:09] <diddledan> "works on my machine" doesn't really help
[20:10] <SuperEngineer> I will keep you updated with thoughts/efforts/attempts and hopefully, with what made it work.../me does precautionary restart [yawn]
[20:10] <diddledan> you'll get cooties from all this rebooting :-p
[20:10] <SuperEngineer> yikes!
[20:11] <SuperEngineer> run.... COOTIES
[20:11] <diddledan> I prefer cuties!
[20:11] <SuperEngineer> ditto
[20:11] <diddledan> twitter.com/emergencykittens ftw
[20:11] <zmoylan-pi> no no, cooties only come from windows reboots... linux doesn't reboot often enough for an organism to live off reboots... :-P
[20:12] <diddledan> oh capitalisaion: https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens
[20:12] <diddledan> oh they mispelled emergency
[20:13] <SuperEngineer> EK on twitter is highly recommended by me... so that means absolutely not recommended for all
[20:13] <diddledan> here's a cutie for the brain: https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/832465897503600640
[20:13] <SuperEngineer> [e.g. not for dog owners]
[20:15] <diddledan> for dog owners, there's https://twitter.com/CuteEmergency/status/832054405620830208
[20:18] <diddledan> wow, this cat is pretty af https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/830865315185696770
[20:19] <SuperEngineer> beware if doing a search for eith the kittens or non-kittens feeds... there are several spoof accounts on twitter and they may not be "friendly"
[20:19] <SuperEngineer> ^either
[20:19] <SuperEngineer> cooties time!
[20:19] <diddledan> \o/
[20:20] <SuperEngineer> sorry, meant "restart time"