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fhessI have a profile for HDMT 7.1 and it works fine but I need a 5.1 profile. how to I add a 5.1 profile to Driver: module-alsa-card?00:01
fhessthat's HDMI00:01
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lernerhi, is '.bashrc' my 'bash_profile'? I dont find any file with that exact name in my home dir.00:02
JulesSkiffHi All, question from a newbie - any hackers room around? (for non professionals)? Thanks00:03
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Error|404JulesSkiff: ##hackers #hackers00:04
wedgiejust ask your question00:04
wedgie(if it is ubuntu support related, of course)00:04
JulesSkiffnope. not really related. Thanks anyways ...00:04
JulesSkiffsearching #hackers - nothing ... just got #NetHack ...00:05
JulesSkiffwedgie - do you know why?00:05
fred911jules: maybe efnet?00:05
wedgie!alis00:06
ubottuAlis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"00:06
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JulesSkiffThanks@00:06
JulesSkiff!00:06
k1llerner: ubuntu uses .profile00:06
lernerok00:06
k1llerner: read the head in that  file00:06
ferfogliadstartx00:06
The_Mythguys, it's possible to install all locales at once?00:08
bazhangThe_Myth, with enough disk space, why not00:09
The_Mythhow? 30Gb isn't enough? :x00:10
bazhangThe_Myth, sure it is00:10
fred911are output profiles for audio that module-alsa-card.c lists determined by the driver or module or can I add one, or do i need one that will also support the output profile I want?00:13
The_Mytherm.. I guess I've installed the en_US and that's good enough. still one problem left.. how to use en_US.UTF-8 in all? I mean, LANGUAGE, LC_ALL, and so on?00:13
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preciseIs there a dedicated chan for Ubuntu server?00:17
k1lprecise: #ubuntu-server but you can ask here too00:18
bazhang#ubuntu-server00:18
preciseOk, well I was logged in via SSH, doing an apt dist-upgrade on my Amazon VPS. My laptop lost power and killed said session and dist-upgrade. dpkg --configure -a was run, and it through "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:00:19
precise unable to install updated status of 'linux-firmware': No such file or directory"00:19
preciseI did an, apt clean, and that returned normal.00:20
preciseI keep getting errors in regards to "N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension"00:20
preciseAnyways, that's the gist of my problems, sorry for the flood.00:20
preciseI'm sorta scared to reboot this thing, as it might never return :/00:21
Dr_CokeOh wow00:21
preciseYeah, this think got tanked :/00:22
preciseI am in the midst of backing up my configs and the likes, but it is only my IRC bouncer, so no big loss, but still :P00:22
Dr_CokeI wish I could help00:23
fred911PRE: it's no big deal.. it's an easy fix just google it or don't worry about it.00:23
precisefred911: You are talking to me?00:23
fred911it's most likely due to a repo that's duped/ added or removed and yes precise00:23
Dr_Cokeprecise what about apt-get autoremove00:24
preciseDr_Coke: It is removing some old kernel files, as normal00:24
k1lprecise: just remove that file.00:24
Dr_Cokek1l I was thinking the same thing00:25
precisek1l: $thatFile being the files in my earlier mentioned errors/00:25
precise?00:25
k1lfor the warning about the '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' file00:25
preciseOk00:25
Dr_Cokethanks k1l00:25
Dr_Cokeprecise are you running gnome or kde or something else?00:26
k1l(thats happening on most ubuntus right now when running the updates)00:26
preciseDr_Coke: Straight CLI, is server variant.00:26
precisek1l: Huh...00:26
Dr_Cokeoh00:26
Dr_Cokeprecise I'm running mint00:27
bazhangDr_Coke, then ask mintsupport00:27
bazhang!mintsupport | Dr_Coke00:28
ubottuDr_Coke: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:28
Dr_Cokebazhang I never asked a question00:28
Dr_CokeHow did I know someone would come out with that00:28
bazhangDr_Coke, why mention it in this support channel, it's offtopic and not supported00:29
preciseGuys please...00:29
Dr_Cokeprecise I'm not worried man I think I seen this keyboard warrior before00:29
bazhangchatter elsewhere please Dr_Coke00:30
Dr_CokeI'm not allowed to chat in here now?00:30
bazhangno00:30
bazhang#ubuntu-offtopic for that00:30
Dr_CokeSince when did this come into effect00:30
naccDr_Coke: it's been in effect for a while00:31
preciseMeanwhile, a few months back I set my ubuntu VPS with a host of website.com (example) and that domain expired, now everytime I run sudo it says it can't resolve said domain. I checked /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf and there are no mentions of said domain.00:31
Sith_Lordthis may sound dumb but for all my googling i can find everything EXCEPT this... you know when you first type the "mail" command at the command prompt, and you get that list of messages? is there a way to redisplay that list? Seems I can only do it by exiting and reentering the mail program for that list to dsiplay.00:31
preciseAny other places it could be coming from?00:31
naccSith_Lord: 'h'00:32
wedgieprecise: what does your sudoers config look like? /etc/sudoers00:32
naccSith_Lord: at the prompt, iirc00:32
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Sith_Lordnacc: lol thanks00:32
precisewedgie: Nothing out of the ordinary, no reference to said domain.00:33
wedgieprecise: and /etc/hostname?00:33
Sith_Lordi though when i read that in the man page it was going to actually print the message headers... in their entirety. thanks again00:33
Dr_Cokewhos the op in here?00:33
precisewedgie: Oh shit, that's it :) Thanks!00:33
wedgieprecise: hostnamectl set-hostname name.domain.tld      <-- can change your hostname that way00:34
precisewedgie: Thanks :)00:34
wedgieand it should take care of the little files... except for /etc/hosts00:34
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naccDr_Coke: ops are present as needed00:35
Dr_Cokenacc are you an op00:35
naccDr_Coke: no00:35
Dr_Cokeor bazhang ?00:35
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naccDr_Coke: but you're being pretty offtopic, please take it elsewhere00:36
Dr_CokeIs bazhang an op?00:36
Dr_CokeI can't believe how strict these rules are00:36
preciseDr_Coke: A lot of people come here for help, and if they get buried in banter and chitchat, that isn't good.00:37
nx9010are there emulators that can be run under Lubuntu smooth with a P4 2.6 Ghz single core with 256 mb RAM? Like sega or ps1 maybe?00:46
preciseDamn, I haven't seen those kind of specs in quite a while :P00:47
bazhangnx9010, can you get firefox to run on that00:47
nx9010Yeah I only got crappy old laptops as second PC's00:47
nx9010bazhang, Hey yeah, I was here yesterday :D00:47
bazhangnx9010, yes I know00:47
bazhangnx9010, can you get ff to run on it00:48
nx9010I would rather not run things through FF though. You are right bazhang, it is too heavy unless just downloading a torrent00:48
bazhangnx9010, which browser, if any can you use with that00:48
preciseIceWeasle?00:49
ColomboHi, trying to install Ubuntu 16.04.01 from liveCD. It seems to hang on "Preparing to install Ubuntu" and nothing is happening (mostly). Is the bug from Ubuntu 10.04 that caused it still unresolved?00:49
nx9010bazhang, I am using Firefox currently, but it takes 40 ~ 50 seconds to load it into ram00:49
bazhangnx9010, you mean swap?00:49
nx9010I was thinking about installing Chromium with pepper for flash00:49
nx9010bazhang, Yes, I suppose so as I hit over 256 MB00:49
fred911Colombo: does it live environment and OS work?00:50
bazhangnx9010, if you can run firefox, then you can run those old times game roms for free in it, from archive.org00:50
nx9010Normally Chrome takes way more ram on my Windows PC than Firefox.. but I have 16GB on my normal pc, so there it's a non issue.00:50
nx9010bazhang, Yeah I am worried it won't work. Unless I find a stand alone browser and get some roms00:51
nx9010it can rarely load a gif without issues in FF bazhang00:51
bazhangarchive.org is the place to get them nx901000:51
preciseYikes00:51
nx9010thanks bazhang :)00:51
bazhangnx9010, however you will not be getting a full HD on that machine, not with such very low specs00:52
precise>P400:52
nx9010How to install Chromium now btw? apt-get install chromium does not work..00:52
precise>HD00:52
bazhangfull HD video00:52
preciselol00:52
bazhangchromium-browser00:53
bazhangthat is the package name00:53
nx9010bazhang, Well.. good to know games where ran in 360x240 then..00:53
nx9010for the Sega at least00:53
nx9010Can I install pepper for flash along with it?00:54
lernerwhat command do I need to see myinterfaces?00:54
preciselerner: ifconfig00:54
lernerthx00:55
precisenp00:55
nx9010is there a way to let Lubuntu re-install?00:56
preciseHow so? Why?00:57
nx9010I keep getting Kernel crashes after I leave this laptop for a while00:57
nx9010Lubuntu has experienced an error, please report.. (something like that)00:57
preciseReinstalling wont fix that I don't think, it sounds like a hardware problem...00:57
preciseI could be wrong though...00:57
fred911sounds like a harddrive going bad00:57
nx9010I want to try it anyways. People keep saying this but never had a problem with Windows on here.00:58
nx9010Is there  a chkdsk command for Linux?00:58
precisefsck00:58
nx9010Well, can't run that because it's mounted..00:59
roothorickchkdsk won't run on mounted volumes either...00:59
nx9010How do I make it ask me to do it on reboot? I feel like feeding a little toddler running Linux, not learning crap from itself haha00:59
preciseThere is a way to get a buntu to do a fsck on reboot00:59
preciseI forget how though...00:59
roothorickanyway, Just dropped a GTX 1070 into my desktop, installed nvidia-367, when scren blanking, screen goes black but monitors stay on and cursor is still visible00:59
roothoricklock screen comes up fine on mouse/keyboard input01:00
fred911anyone know how to install an additional audio output profile that missing from the dropdown in pulseaudio volume control?01:00
precisenx9010: Add a file called forcefsck in root. So /forcefsck01:00
preciseThen reboot01:00
fred911precise: I think -f will do it on reboot01:00
precisefred911: Oh, that would work too :P01:01
preciseI just had read the prior method the other day :P01:01
bobafettanyone having trouble connecting to vpn? it says connecting but no pages load and i cant ping passed router01:01
nx9010It does not tell me it will, it says: e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.01:01
bobafetthttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235282101:01
precisebobafett: ...What vpn?01:01
fred911might want to try a lowlevel non-destructive format to see if the drive is bad also01:01
nx9010But should I try to reboot anyways?01:01
Homely_Girlk1l, How do I access my login key password again please?01:02
bobafettopenvpn configured in DO on ubuntu 14.0401:02
nx9010No I just want to do things the normal way, why is that always so hard to ask on Linux. Mac OS all over again. fml01:02
bobafetti loaded up windows 10 and can connect no problem. it says connection successful i can see the IP in ifconfig but nothing loads01:02
precisenx9010: just su -; cd /; touch forcefsck; reboot01:03
bazhangnx9010, the normal way , meaning what?01:03
bazhangprecise, we use sudo, never su01:03
wedgieHomely_Girl: you mean the passphrase for an envrypted home dir?01:03
Nio_OHi mates, i ve ubuntu 10 minutes, can me somebody tell how i can browse other media .. ?01:04
precisebazhang: fair enough :P01:04
bazhangNio_O, which other media01:04
nx9010bazhang, Okay, why does Linux have the smallest user base? I think because it's harder to control than Apple's OS.. and I do not like to say that. I have been using Ubuntu before the owners sold the system out to gov01:04
precise...01:05
Nio_Oi have on hdd ě partitions, in once is windows, and linux in sec., how i ca browse files on windows from linux ?01:05
Homely_Girlwedgie,  All I can remember is it was a nautical word! lol I want to change the login key password, it's different to my user account password01:05
bazhangnx9010, thats not topical here at all01:05
nx9010Or let the source be meddled with, because they could not spy easily on Ubuntu users.01:05
nx9010nx9010, No I get that xD01:05
nx9010bazhang, *01:05
bobafettprecise, any idea?01:06
preciseNio_O: If I understand you correctly, you have a dual boot system and want to view your Windows files from the Linux install? Or is it removable media like a USB or CD/DVD that you use with Windows?01:06
nx9010It would explain why it runs so slow right now though on the same hardware.. Did not really get any new functions.01:06
precisebobafett: No idea, sorry man.01:06
precisenx9010: Please keep it on topic.01:07
Nio_Oi have installed the linux01:07
preciseNio_O: Is Windows installed on the same computer?01:07
Nio_Oyes01:07
fred911you need NTFS support01:07
preciseNio_O: So what happens when you turn on the computer?01:08
precisefred911: Is what I'm getting at :P01:08
Homely_Girlwedgie, When I first boot up my laptop 'n open Chrome I'm asked for a login key password, k1l told me how to change it but I didn't do it properly, 'cos it's still the old password!01:08
preciseHomely_Girl: You mean for a Google account? Or is it part of Ubuntu?01:08
bobafettwhat are some other ubuntu channels for support01:08
wedgieah, that. I have no idea. I'd like to know how to make that thing go away completely, but have been too lazy to ever look into it01:08
precisebobafett: #ubuntu-server I guess...01:09
Nio_Oi can choose between systems, but i dont know how i can see files of windows in linux, in nautilus i ve error if i click on the "hdd with windows"01:09
Homely_Girlprecise, It's part of ubuntu.01:09
Homely_GirlLemme reboot 'n tell you exactly wot it's called.....bbiab01:09
fred911Nio_O: go to that URL I sent you and it will show you how to install the support you need to see an NTFS partition01:09
Homely_Girlprecise, Lemme reboot 'n tell you exactly wot it's called.....bbiab01:09
preciseNio_O: Do as fred911 suggests :P01:10
nx9010precise, okay, rebooting, thanks for helping though01:10
precisenx9010: Yep01:10
Nio_Ohow url ?01:11
nx9010Thinking about running something else maybe, that's more light weight.. wish DSL could run all the software Lubuntu runs, okay brb (or in a while, might take long)01:11
fred911https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39662901:11
roothorickmore and more often it seems like all Googling gets me is an accusation of being a bot01:12
fred911Nio_O: click that URl and you'll be fixed up (might need to reboot before you can see the partition)01:12
Nio_Oi am reeding it, ty01:12
fred911roothorick: that will happen more frequently if you're using Tor or a VPN01:13
nx9010oh uhm wow.. it gave an error before rebooting real quick precise , something in the terminal about being unable to touch...01:14
aroonihow do i change my password for the currently loged in user01:14
arooniand if i ever forget it ; am I SOL?01:14
nx9010I know it sounds weird, but it said unable to touch.. then BOOM, restarted01:14
aroonishould i create a second admin account with sudo in case i ever forget?01:15
fred911arooni: passwd in a terminal01:15
precisenx9010: Did you use touch as a sudoer?01:15
nx9010I ran your command but with sudo instead of su.01:15
Homely_Girlprecise, after opening Chrome I get "Enter your password to unlock your login keyring"  I want to change that password01:15
preciseHomely_Girl: Ooooohhh01:16
preciseOk01:16
Homely_Girlprecise, yayyyy!01:16
precisenx9010: sudo touch /forcefsck?01:16
Homely_Girlprecise, Do you know how I change it?01:16
nx9010 sudo -; cd /; touch forcefsck01:16
fred911Homely_Girl: do you have passwords in the keyring?01:17
Bashing-omarooni: Here are easy instructions to reset your password in Ubuntu:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .01:17
Homely_Girlfred911, I do01:17
roothorickso, "xset dpms force off" gives a black screen, but the monitor stays on with visible backlight. Desktop comes back instantly when moving the mouse01:17
fred911Homely_Girl: and you don't remember your current password?01:17
Homely_Girlfred911, I do, it's just tedious to type hence I want to change it to something easier to type without needing to look at the kbrd01:18
nx9010Did I do it wrong, precise ?01:18
precisenx9010: You need to go to the root of your file system, which is what >cd / does, sudo makes you a superuser then touch simply creates a file, so >touch forcefsck creates an empty file called forcefsck.01:18
preciseEach semicolon represents a new command, your error could have been in the syntax I used.01:19
preciseOh, you used sudo -01:19
precise:P01:19
Nio_Osudo apt-get install ntfs-3g &01:19
Nio_O :((01:19
precisenx9010: cd /01:19
Nio_Ohttps://thepasteb.in/p/DRhjNERQVvYfy01:20
precisesudo touch forcefsck01:20
preciseThen reboot01:20
precisenx9010: ^01:20
fred911Nio_O: do you just want to read or do you want write pvgs01:21
Bashing-omprecise: nx9010 :: systmd (16.04) ? Got a different way to run a file system check : https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html .01:22
preciseBashing-om: Oh... reading your link now...01:22
preciseOh, he's gone..01:23
preciseIDK what version of LUbuntu he was running.01:23
Homely_Girlprecise, I'm still here ;)01:24
preciseHomely_Girl: Oh, not you silly :P01:24
precisenx901001:24
Bashing-omprecise: Hate when that ^happens . Bet he be back soon :)01:24
nx9010precise, well.. I feel stupid :(01:24
preciseSpeak of the devil :P01:24
precisenx9010: Why is that?01:24
Homely_Girlprecise, Only stupid if u can't solve my annoying issue! lol01:24
nx9010precise, It did tell me it worked, but It just rebooted, saw a black screen for 20 seconds and then I saw my desktop.01:24
fred911Homely_Girl: did you read the link I sent?01:25
Homely_Girlfred911, I did not see the link you sent, sorry01:25
fred911Homely_Girl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/31786/chrome-asks-for-password-to-unlock-keyring-on-startup01:25
precisenx9010: Logs are kept in /var/log/fsck01:25
fred911sorry01:25
nx9010should the file be made under /home/nx9010 ?01:26
nx9010oh let me see.01:26
preciseNo, it should have been created01:26
wedgiequestion related to Homely_Girl's: How do you configure Chrome to not use a keyring at all? Sick of it prompting me for that, twice, every time i launch it and once again when i close it.01:26
preciseso >cat /var/log/fsck01:26
precisenx9010: ^01:26
nx9010precise, (Nothing has been logged yet.)01:27
Homely_Girlwedgie, I will try get my head around that, thanks....a lot to read for my basic skill set!01:27
precisewedgie: nx9010 Hmmm.01:27
preciseOH woops01:27
precise:P01:27
nx9010Maybe I misrun a command.01:27
nx9010Let me try again in steps.01:27
precisenx9010: No, it looks like a known bug...01:27
nx9010Oh01:28
fred911wedgie: go to settings > advanced > security and untick the proper box01:28
precisehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/51364401:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 513644 in mountall (Ubuntu) "Does not log fsck invocations in /var/log/fsck/" [Wishlist,Triaged]01:28
nx9010No software I can install that runs hdd checks?01:28
precisenx9010: Are you on gnome?01:28
nx9010precise, no lxde01:28
nx9010Lubuntu01:29
preciseIf lxde has a equivalent, the Gnome Disk Utility shows SMART status and values..01:29
preciseAlso, what version of Lubuntu?01:29
wedgiefred911: in chrome? I have no "security" section... unless i'm looking in completely the wrong place01:29
fred911nx9010: on your hardware I'd boot windows and grab an old copy of spinrite01:29
Nio_Oprecise: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396629 here in first post is "aplications" menu, where is this ?01:30
fred911wedgie: sorry it's under passwords and forms01:30
nx9010fred911, Yeah I am not too sure about using Windows XP anymore though now that M$ deliberately ruined their OS01:30
wedgiefred911: both unchecked.01:30
nx9010I kinda liked the low ram usage of Lubuntu01:31
Bashing-omHomely_Girl: Try: Close Chrome. Open the file manager, press ctrl+H or show hidden files from menu, go to .local/share/keyrings, move the content to some backup place. Then logout and log back in. Open Chrome, there will be a pop up asking you to set a keyring password, leave it blank, confirm, then it shouldn't bother you anymore. If everything works, you can delete the backup you saved earlier.01:31
preciseNio_O: Are you on 16.04?01:31
Nio_Oyes01:31
Nio_Oi think01:31
Homely_GirlBashing-om, Thanks I'll give it a go.01:31
preciseNio_O: Do you have a sidebar with shortcuts?01:31
Nio_Oyes on left01:32
preciseOk, so you are atleast running unity, so you don't have a menu bar at the top01:32
nx9010precise, running 16.04.2 LTS01:32
preciseNio_O: IMO, it would be easier to just follow the first replies tutorial...01:32
preciseVia the terminal01:32
* precise doesn't like Unity01:33
preciseNio_O: Do you have a sidebar with shortcuts?:P01:33
preciseWoops01:33
preciseMisspost, sorry01:33
* nx9010 hates Unity lol, netbook bs01:33
Nio_Ohttps://thepasteb.in/p/nZhlAPJWYjgFY01:34
Nio_Oso now, just restart ?01:34
nx9010I can't open Software center under lubuntu though precise. so more than 1 thing must be wrong01:34
preciseNio_O: Did you use fdisk -l to check to make sure that your Windows partition was /dev/sda1?01:35
preciseCan you pastebin the results of fdisk -l?01:35
nx9010That is why I wanted to reinstall but I want to check if the HDD is still okay, it never made any weird noises like most of my HDDs that died01:35
preciseNio_O: ^01:35
Nio_Ohttps://thepasteb.in/p/y8h6q8lO2ZDuO my mistake but same result01:36
preciseNio_O: Still, just to be sure, can you pastebin the results of >sudo fdisk -l01:36
precise?01:36
Colombofred911: Yeah. It seems that it started to work after while. It looks like more complicated partitioning, two harddrives, potentially one of them broken, and dirty as hell mechanics are not helping in this process at all:/01:36
Homely_GirlBashing-om, You genius!! Thank you!!01:37
Homely_GirlBashing-om, Will Chrome remember individual passwords for me or not?01:37
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Nio_Ohttps://thepasteb.in/p/KOh8zXjyknntJ01:38
Nio_Ohere01:38
xanguaHomely_Girl: any modern graphical browser should manage your passwords01:38
Homely_Girlxangua, Thanks, at least I'm rid of the annoying keyring prompt now, :)01:39
RNevillehello want to install nvidia proprietary driver for video card; should I run sudo apt-get update first, or similar command?01:39
Homely_Girlprecise, Aren't you lucky, I get to go away now! lol01:39
preciseHomely_Girl: Why?01:39
Homely_GirlThank you collectively for your brains guys 'n gals!01:39
Bashing-omHomely_Girl: Naw not me as genius . I just been araound a bit . As to saved passwords . I do not expect this to have any effect - that be a different thing .01:39
Homely_Girlprecise, Bashing-om solved my issue01:39
preciseYou aren't a nuisance lol01:40
preciseThis is a support channel01:40
Homely_GirlBashing-om, U know more than me, you're a genius to me!01:40
* xangua puts Bashing-om on a lamp01:40
Homely_GirlIs there an online course or something I can do to learn more about command line Ubuntu/Linux? :)01:40
fred911RNeville: if you go to software and updates and click on the additional drivers tab it will do it for you.01:40
Bashing-omHomely_Girl: LOL .. Ok . I take that then .01:40
Nio_Oprecise help01:40
preciseNio_O: I am here :P01:41
Bashing-om!terminal | Homely_Girl01:41
ubottuHomely_Girl: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal01:41
preciseNio_O: What version of Windows are you dual booting with?01:41
ryanpriorI'm writing my first systemd unit for a service called home-row-control that I want to run when a user starts a session. If I log in and run `systemctl --user start home-row-control.service` it starts up fine, but it doesn't start on login. Can anybody help me troubleshoot?01:41
RNevilleyes, fred911, thx; but I believe Bashing-om advised me once, to run "sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade" before installing proprietary driver01:41
Homely_GirlBashing-om, I know a little like apt-get but I want to know more. :)01:42
Nio_Ow10 exactly i dont know01:42
ryanpriorI put more info in a GitHub issue - https://github.com/ryanprior/home-row-control/issues/701:42
preciseNio_O: Ok, so when you boot up, you want to go into your UEFI interface and turn off fastboot.01:42
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, tldp has bash guides01:42
fred911RNeville: I don't remember but I think the Nvidia drivers are in a different repo..01:42
fred911let me look01:42
Bashing-omHomely_Girl: wanting to know is how it all starts . Hang in there and it will come .01:42
RNevillethx fred91101:43
Homely_GirlBashing-om, I'm just happy I'm in a Windoze free zone!! lol01:43
* precise has to use Windows for work01:43
* precise cries01:43
Nio_Oi have bios not uefi, .. where i can find it ?01:43
fred911RNeville: software and updates will automaticall do it for you, but it can't hurt if do it..01:43
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two, What is tldp?01:43
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/   http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/01:43
RNevillethx, very much fred91101:44
Seven_Six_TwoThe Linux Documentation Project01:44
* nx9010 is a gamer, so forced to Windows (also for work)01:44
preciseNio_O: When you turn on your computer, it should prompt for a key press, generally either Esc or an F key.01:44
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two, Thanks, I'll use my loads of free time 'n have a read! :)01:44
preciseNio_O: What brand is your computer?01:44
Nio_Omb gigabyte, other i dont know, this is 7/500001:45
Nio_OComposition pc01:45
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.. but I understand. the console is a very large topic. I don't mean to drop books in your lap, but solving your own problems while using the terminal is the best way, but takes a lot of time too.01:46
xanguaNio_O: what's wrong with your custom PC?01:46
preciseNio_O: Just reboot the computer and look towards the upper and lower edges of the splash screen of your BIOS for a prompt to get into your BIOS.01:46
Bashing-om16.04.2 iso close ! "01:46
Bashing-om16.04.2 iso close ! "< infinity> tsimonq2: There'll be an email in a few minutes. ;) "01:46
Nio_Ook so turn off fast boot right ?01:47
fred911Are there any Pulseaudio/ALSA experts that know how to install an additional audio output profile?01:47
xanguaBashing-om: new kernel available?01:47
tsimonq2Bashing-om: sent01:47
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, if you're just looking for a few more utilities to learn to up your game, how about grep, awk, and sed01:47
precisexangua: She is trying to mount a Windows volume in her dual booted Linux OS, she is getting an error I belive to be caused by Fastboot where ntfs-3g won't mount the Windows partition as there is an issue with ntfs-3g and UEFI/BIOS Fastboot.01:47
Bashing-omtsimonq2: :)01:47
Nio_Oprecise: i dont know what is the fastboot, so turn off him ?01:47
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two, So wot are they?01:48
RNevillewhich driver should I install, please: Nvidia version 367.57 (proprietary, tested) or01:48
tsimonq2https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-February/004036.html01:48
tsimonq2Bashing-om: ^01:48
RNevilleversion 340.101 (proprietary)01:48
preciseRNeville: I had major issues with the Nouveua drivers on my Dell Precision M4500, had to go with the proprietary ones :/01:49
RNevillethx precise01:49
preciseYup, it may have gotten better though01:49
preciseThat was about a year ago01:49
fred911RNeville:  I use 340.101 without issue01:50
RNevilleVouveau driver seemed to work fine on my machine, until I tried to run lightworks NLE01:50
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, they are text utilities. grep is good for searching and filtering. sed and awk are for text processing.01:50
preciseYeah, with my Precision M4500, it wasn't even starting up Unity, it was horrible :P01:50
RNevillefred911, I'll try 340.101 - just didn't understand why it's not marked as "tested"01:51
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two, I'm glazing over again!! lol01:51
preciseRNeville: Because no one tested it and reported back :P01:51
RNevilleokay, sounds simple enough, precise01:52
preciseHomely_Girl: You'll get it eventually :P01:52
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two, Baby steps how do I change dir on commandline and list directories?01:52
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, oh sorry. you're very new?01:52
Seven_Six_Twook.  cd is change directory01:52
Homely_Girlprecise, Are you patronisingly patting me on the head! lol01:52
fred911I see it marked as proprietary and tested (340.10101:52
preciseHomely_Girl: The way I learned the Linux CLI and Bash was by forcing myself to do as much as I could by CLI.01:52
preciselol no?01:52
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two,  Yes in terms of not doing more than apt-get on commandline, but been a Linux user for years now.01:53
RNevilleinteresting fred91101:53
RNevilledon't understand why my machine showing something else for (340.101)01:53
fred911precise: sometimes it's hard to communicate that to many new users01:54
JennaEI have an HP Intel Notebook. I recently had a 7265 Wireless Driver Card installed. I cannot figure out how to install the driver I need for it. I downloaded the file but its asking me to copy the files into a distribution specific firmware directory, /lib/firmware. I have no idea what that means!!! I need someone to explain to me step by step what to do after I installed the files. I need to install the driver because I would01:54
JennaElike to have Wfi !! Currently can only get internet via an Ethernet cord. Any help would be appreciated !01:54
preciseHomely_Girl: man pages are your friend. If you ever are trying to use a command and don't know what it does or the syntax, just do >man [command] for the command manual :P01:54
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, ok. the first command you need to know is     man01:54
precisefred911: Yeah, I know, I don't talk to many people about Linux outside of the internets :P01:54
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, that will get you the manual for any command that has a manual page. eg... man ls01:54
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, try      $ man ls01:55
Nio_Ofast didnt help ..01:55
Nio_Ofastboot*01:55
preciseNio_O: Did you find the option?01:55
RNevilleI think the "man" pages, in general, are cryptic - especially for newbies01:55
linearlogic123I accidentally change the sudoers file and I throwing some catch on line 9 and 10. http://pastebin.com/XXDxcFzw01:55
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, read it all, and open another terminal and try out different options01:55
Nio_Oi found quiet boot fast boot nope01:55
preciseRNeville: True01:55
RNevilleI think a few actual examples in the "man pages" would be a great help for newbies01:56
preciseNio_O: Can you please be a bit more descriptive?01:56
Seven_Six_TwoRNeville, some of it is. but not all of it, and some commands a lot more than others. ls is pretty basic01:56
preciseRNeville: The good man pages do have examples at the bottom :P01:56
kantlivelongi just went from 14.04 to 16.04 and now my audio is very delayed01:56
kantlivelonganyone know if this is known issue?01:56
RNevilleglad I'm not the only one that thinks "man pages instruction are cryptic for newbies, precise01:57
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two, I'll do that, thanks. :) I didn't have to type the $ sign, but I figured that out!01:57
Seven_Six_TwoRNeville, yeah, examples would definitely help! but they are there, and ignoring them is inconvenient01:57
preciseRNeville: :P We all started at the bottom :P01:57
RNeville"man pages/"man pages"01:57
Nio_Oi said i didnt find the options but i found "quiet boot"01:57
RNevilleyes, I think it is great that the "man pages" are there with just a simple command like "man" Seven_Six_Two01:58
preciseNio_O: Sorry, my options are exhausted and so am I, long day :P Hopefully someone else in the channel can help you.01:58
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two, Thanks for your mentoring, but I think it's a tech overload for me now, I'm going to sleep! Hope I don't lose this info!! lol01:58
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, sure! other commands to read the man pages for, and experiment, are: cd ls mkdir rmdir grep cat less touch df01:58
fred911Nio_O: I'll try01:59
fred911Nio_O: have you tried to mount the partition are read only?01:59
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two, I printed this screen to refer back to! :)01:59
Homely_GirlGood night all you brains!! :)01:59
Seven_Six_TwoHomely_Girl, good night!01:59
Nio_OI thought i didnt02:00
Homely_GirlSeven_Six_Two, Night Brains02:00
Homely_Girlprecise, Thanks for trying.02:00
preciseHomely_Girl: ;)02:00
Nio_Oprecise: ty for efford02:00
Nio_O*t02:00
fred911Nio_O: the reason it won't let you access it is because it think's it will mess up the partition if it writes to it. If you mark the access as read only you should be able to access it02:01
Nio_Ojust command tell me please, i ll try it, i want just the files from windows02:01
fred911Nio_O: hold on02:02
xhearthi everyone02:02
xheartis there a way to set my pc to restart and log on without asking for the password?02:02
xheartubuntu 16.04lts02:02
RNevillequestion: looks like I could down load a driver for something involving Processor microcode02:03
Seven_Six_Twoxheart, there should be by modifying your login settings. sorry, I'm using another dist right now02:03
Nio_Okk02:03
xheartwhere do i set this option?02:03
Seven_Six_Twothere's a login preferences app02:03
RNevillereads exactly like this under Software & Updates: Processor microcode firmware for AMD CPUs' from amd64-microcode (proprietary)02:04
xheartis there a sudo command?02:04
RNevilleshould I try this previously mentioned driver? please02:04
Seven_Six_Twoxheart, click to open your unity panel, and type "login" and it should appear02:04
xheartuntiy panel?02:05
Seven_Six_Twothe button on your panel that lets you find apps and stuff02:05
Seven_Six_Twotop left maybe?02:05
Nio_Ofred ?02:06
xheartuser accounts02:06
Seven_Six_TwoI don't think so. maybe in "settings" panel02:06
Nio_Ofred991 ?02:06
xheartyes!02:07
xheartthank you seven six two!02:07
Seven_Six_Twoxheart, you're welcome!02:07
fred911RNeville: it's usually the newest microcode for your CPU02:07
Seven_Six_TwoI guess I should try Ubuntu once in a while.02:08
RNevillefred911, don't know what microcode is, so I really don't know if I should upgrade this driver02:08
fred911RNeville: it's so your unique CPU has the latest ability.. I always update it02:10
RNevillethx, fred91102:10
b0tI have a big problem, -bash: /usr/sbin/newaliases: No such file or directory02:10
fred911it's like a unique driver specifically for your cpu02:10
b0thow to fix it?02:10
wedgieb0t: what are you doing when you get that error?02:11
RNevillejust switched to new Nvidia driver (340.101) ; should I restart my computer, to make sure drive works correctly?02:11
b0tRecompile my aliases, newaliases02:11
RNevilleLightworks not working correctly with this previously mentioned driver, but haven't restarted my computer02:11
nerdsvilleHey guys, quick question.. does ubuntu have support for the fingerprint reader on the dell precision 7510?02:12
fred911RNeville: I would, your machine will run faster02:12
nerdsvilleIf so which driver do I use?02:12
RNevillek02:12
fred911graphica should be better...ect less CPU tax02:12
RNevillethx fred91102:12
fred911Are there any Pulseaudio/ALSA experts that know how to install an additional audio output profile?02:13
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nerdsvilleAlso has anyone noticed a popping noise when logging in? And the mouse freezing for 2 seconds when opening the settings menu?02:15
nerdsvilleCould just be my computer I suppose02:15
fred911nerdsville: mine clicks when the driver is loaded on boot02:15
fred911nerdsville: but I route audio out HDMI so I don't know if it's an issue here or not02:16
nerdsvillekk, yeah I don't hear it any other time so not a huge deal02:16
nx9010might wanna check your ram somehow with software nerdsville or am I being paranoid?02:16
nerdsville              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available02:16
nerdsvilleMem:          64318        1480       61321         386        1515       6193002:16
nerdsvilleSwap:         65423           0       6542302:16
nerdsvilleMy RAM is more than good lol02:17
nx9010no, not what i mean02:17
fred911nx9010: its a the driver loading on my system or sending out to the audio system02:17
cfoch-alwayshi02:17
cfoch-alwayshow do I turn on mysql service in Ubuntu 16.0402:17
nerdsvillesystemctl start mysqld?02:17
nerdsvilleneed to find the daemon name02:18
nx9010test it i meant but fred911 might be right :D02:18
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fred911nerdsville: is mysql installed ?02:18
nerdsvilleOh I was responding to cfoch-always02:18
cfoch-alwayssystemctl vs service?02:18
schultzahow do i manually add a static route (temporary) for an ipv6 route via an ipv4 gateway?02:18
nerdsvilleIt uses systemd I believe now :)02:19
cfoch-alwaysnerdsville: are you talking to me?02:19
nerdsvilleschultza: I use ip route02:19
nerdsvilleyeah cfoch-always02:19
schultzait says it is expecting an ipv6 address for the gateway02:19
nerdsvillethere should be ip6 route too I think02:20
nerdsvillemaybe not hold on02:20
nx9010Hahaha why do I always think of a movie when people ask Are you talking to me?02:20
nerdsvilleWhich command are you running schultza?02:20
nerdsvillenx9010, could you link me to more info on that? Also I noticed even after enabling subwoofers, the bass isn't that good02:21
nerdsvilleIt was better on the native windows install02:21
nx9010nerdsville, I am kinda new to Linux but I guess there are people here how to check if ram is still good.02:22
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nerdsvilleah, yeah I don't know what ram is :s02:22
nx9010Might just be a driver problem, using a generic driver or missing a driver maybe? I am good at repairing windows installations but really new to using Linux for more than just a media center02:23
fred911nx9010: when I system boots, the driver loads, my internal speakers are turned off and I hear a click through my audio which is HDMI02:23
schultza$ip route add 2602:xxx::0/32 via xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (x's are for privacy)02:23
nx9010Maybe there is a way to keep digital audio on a keep-alive signal, anyone here know?02:23
schultzaError: inet6 address is expected rather than "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx".02:24
nerdsvilleschultza: not sure if the ipv4 address can be used to route ipv6 traffic02:24
nerdsvilleNot 100% sure on this02:24
fred911nx9010: Kodi has a setting to send inaudible audio to keep it alive02:24
schultza6rd is based on routing ipv6 traffic on ipv4 networks.02:24
nerdsvilleAh, yeah this is a bit beyond me :)02:25
nx9010fred911, yes that is what I mean, maybe that can be used on Ubuntu somehow?02:25
schultzaany ipv6 ppl in this room?02:25
nerdsvilleI will let you know if I find something02:25
schultzathanks, nerdsville02:25
fred911nx9010: I do, kodi runs via HDMI on my tv on Ubuntu02:26
nerdsvillehttp://www.litech.org/6rd/02:26
nerdsvilleschultza: try adding :: to the front?02:26
nerdsville::IPv402:27
nx9010fred911, That's good! I have it on as well. Having issues with my media center under Xubuntu atm , can't get the right drivers for my Asrock ION 330 so it's failing to play media files under Kodi02:27
fred911nx9010: on a P4?02:28
nx9010fred911, No, it's an other system02:28
nerdsvilleAlso can you do ip tunnel help schultza02:28
fred911ah.. ok02:28
nerdsvillesee if 6rd is there02:28
datguy1hi all. im trying to mount a drive but it wont give. here's the output of fdisk -l https://dpaste.de/HYdr02:28
nx9010I use this laptop for IRC mainly now02:28
datguy1i want to mount /dev/sda102:28
PhotonX-Plane does not support the Gallium driver stack. -- Trying to install X-Plane. Is there a fix?02:28
fred911nx9010: what media files fail and how and are you using Krypton?02:29
fred911what fails02:29
nx9010fred911, I seem to be unable to use the gpu under Kodi, so no hw accelerated video support.02:30
coffeeguyhi how-to update to 16.04.2?02:30
nerdsvilleOops seems schultza got kicked from the ipv6 stuff :s02:30
fred911nx9010: the Ion 330 is an Nvidia chipset?02:30
fred911nx9010: I mean what type of video card/gpu..ect02:31
nerdsvilleI found the name of the fingerprint reader, it is Control Vault, is there driver support for these?02:34
nerdsvillelsusb doesn't seem to recognize it02:34
fred911nx9010: you need to install the Nvidia drivers02:35
PhotonX-Plane does not support the Gallium driver stack. -- Trying to install X-Plane. Is there a fix? AMD Radeon R7 25002:36
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nx9010Yes, correct. fred911 , it's a dual core, overclocked to 2.0 Ghz stable with a bigger fan and 4 Ghz DDR2 800 Mhz memory. It's a nettop cpu/gpu combination, called the ION 330 chip.02:37
fred911nx9010: just read about it, are the drivers installed?02:38
nx9010fred911, I have been having issues trying to get the right driver. I will have to look into it tomorrow and come here for help, I'm currently on a laptop next to my bed because I am physically ill right now haha02:41
fred911nx: it seems to have good driver support02:42
nx9010fred911, yes :D before I was able to play 1080P 3D mkv files easily, streaming them over my network. It had no stutters. It's old, and I wish I had more money to replace it but since Im gonna stick with my 1080p tv for a while I'm okay with it right now02:44
nx9010I am able to buy a secondhand AMD processor with mobo and ram for 60 euro, the FX-8320 black edition, so 8 cores at 4 Ghz, only need some cheaper gpu that's silent..02:47
nx9010Might make it into a server as well, since it is so overpowered for a media center.. just not sure if it's a power efficient CPU, knowing how AMD is usually draining more watts compared to Intel02:49
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RNevillehello, just installed proprietary Nvidia driver, now my Ubuntu 16.04 install will not boot02:55
RNevillethinking a I need a recovery disk to reinstall default open source driver02:56
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cfhowlettRNeville, nope.  just reboot into the nomodeset option03:00
cfhowlett!nomodeset | RNeville03:00
ubottuRNeville: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:00
RNevillethx cfhowlett03:02
cfhowletthappy2help! RNeville03:02
RNevilleI'm not using nouveau driver, using nvidia proprietary drive,03:05
cfhowlettRNeville, understood, still you can't boot in, right?  nomodeset will let you bypass your current settings so you can get in and change things.03:06
RNevillek, cfhowlett03:06
drjamdo you know how to get that happening RNeville ?03:08
RNevilletrying to read https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 now, drjam03:09
RNevilledrjam, not sure I'm completely following these link to instructions03:09
cfhowlettI believe it's reboot, hit esc after the splashscreen and edit your grub boot settings03:10
RNevillek03:11
cfhowlettdrjam, ?03:11
kantlivelongweird03:11
kantlivelongpulseaudio crashes03:11
kantlivelong im having a weird issue where pulseaudio crashes when getting too many IM sounds?03:13
PhotonX-Plane does not support the Gallium driver stack. AMD Radeon R7 iirc. Does anyone have a solution?03:14
locyber!BigTruck Five Finger Death Punch - Wash it all Away.mp303:15
ubottulocyber: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:15
PhotonAlso tmux just broke03:15
Photonfml03:15
drjamcfhowlett, one sec, checking03:25
drjamtoo many tabs, phone calls and customers haha03:25
cfhowlettI understand03:25
drjamah yeah, that link.... makes it all look much more complex than it is03:26
cfhowlettyep.03:26
drjamoverwhelming is the term for me03:26
drjam:)03:26
drjamright so, im not totally sure where your up to with it.... can you boot? hit escape or.... i had to hit TAB for some diustros03:27
cfhowlettRNeville, you still with us?03:28
drjamfor live distros, i hot TAB, and only ADDED the nomodeset word.... not at the end, about 2 words in from the end03:28
RNevilleyes, cfhowlett03:30
cfhowlettRNeville, drjam has more nomodeset experience than I.03:30
drjamhaha probably BARELY more03:31
austin__trying to install modprobe in xenial.   I keep getting E:unable to locate package install03:31
austin__I assume I need to update the /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Anyone know a good default source to add in there?03:32
drjamaustin__, have you done sudo apt update03:32
RNevillegoing to try and use control e at when choosing kernel to modify grub and add nomodset (think this is what linked to instruction suggest)03:32
cfhowlettaustin__, install modprobe? no need.  modprobe is packaged in ubuntu.03:32
RNevillegetting ready to reboot03:32
drjamgl RNeville03:32
RNevillerunning off a cloned external HD, at the moment, but will try to modify grub when booting off internal primary HD03:33
ColomboIs there suggested way how to have secured password in .bashrc for proxy?03:33
austin__cfhowlett: I can't seem to find it03:33
RNevillethx drjam03:33
cfhowlettaustin__, open a terminal.  type in        man probe03:33
cfhowlettman modprobe03:33
cyberspectreOn Ubuntu 16.04, alsa has stopped working. Pulseaudio does not communicate with sound cards, only bluetooth03:34
austin__cfhowlett - No manual entry for modprobe03:35
cfhowlettaustin__, what does lsb_release -d      say03:35
austin__Description:   Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS03:36
austin__cfhowlett: I'm working in a Docker image, fwiw.  Not sure if it's a stripped down container or what's going on03:37
cfhowlettaustin__, that's why ...03:37
austin__cfhowlett: ahh, I guess I'm back to updating sources.list then?03:38
cfhowlettaustin__, I've not deal with docker or other stripped down images.  ask the channel here or perhaps the #docker channel03:38
austin__cfhowlett: ok, any ideas what a good package source is anyhow?03:39
cfhowlettaustin__, the default sources.list should be adequate.  I'm surprised that doesn't work in your case.03:40
austin__different question if anyone knows.  How would I go about creating a fake audioinput device to trick Chrome into thinking that I have a microphone?  (Skype freaks out on me when it can't find a microphone)03:46
austin__I keep reading about modprobe sound-aloop, but I'm not sure what it does, exactly03:47
Bashing-omRNeville: You spinning your wheels, no traction - to get nomodeset ?03:56
mvahi there! Advice me, please, who can I contact (I mean the person, not a maillist) about missing tinc of 1.1 branch in any version of ubuntu? Even debian has it, but ubuntu - do not (for years already)04:05
cfhowlettmva, it doesn't work that way ...04:05
mvacfhowlett: which? I just wanted to point tinc maintainer on existance of new version, and ask him to add it too04:06
mvasince there is many "yummy" things in comparsion with 1.0 branch04:07
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cfhowlettmva, see the following for maintainer info:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/tinc04:10
guest9246Hi guys and gals!!04:12
guest9246 hey04:12
cfhowletttopic here is ubuntu support guest9246.  ask your question or jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offtopic04:13
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guest9246Okay04:15
mvacfhowlett: I did look. And there is some "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" specified as maintainer. With maillist address as email. And I guess that if I subscribe there, I'll get tons of unneded emails. But if I don't (and just send an email), It is a chances I will not receive an answers :-/04:15
nhbinhtest04:16
cfhowlettyes there is that chance.  or you might send a msg to the ubuntu-developer list04:16
nikolamI get this trying to update 16.04LTS: dpkg: error: unable to open/create status database lockfile: No space left on device04:17
nikolamBut I know I have penty of space04:17
cfhowlettnikolam, df -h | pastebinit04:17
chaotixhi.  i am using lubuntu 16.04, and chromium web apps are showing up under the chromium icon instead of their own in the launcher bar.  i know that there is a fix to this, some line of text added or commented out of a file somewhere, but I can not for the life of me remember what that is, and i am apparently not googling it correctly as to find the forum post where i learned this fix before, can someone help me?04:18
nhbinhwho04:18
mvanikolam: and `df -i` too (it is chances you're out of inodes)04:18
cfhowlettnhbinh, the topic here is ubuntu support.  ask your questions here or jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offotpic04:19
cfhowlett#ubuntu-offtopic04:19
nhbinhok, sorry04:19
nikolammva, cfhowlett : https://bpaste.net/show/1a012b0939ef04:20
nikolamSystem is on BTRFS SSD , data, file images for KVM are  is on mirrored ZFS04:21
cfhowlettnikolam, my theory was that you had no space left due to old kernels.  clearly not the case here.04:21
nikolamI think last time I updated was in December or something like it, gotta check04:22
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mvaeeerm...04:23
mvanikolam: can you also paste `df -T / /home`?04:23
nikolamnothing special there but yes. https://bpaste.net/show/2d4bc5915bca04:25
RNevillestill haven't got nomodset to work when booting04:26
Guestieis reject_unauth_pipelining a security issue in Postfix?04:26
mvaok. Unfortunatelly, I'm not a guru with btrfs, but... can you also post `btrfs filesystem usage /` then?04:28
mvanikolam: and. by the way, be ready that there is chances you have already-broken fs, that magically still not failed ;)04:29
nikolamhttps://bpaste.net/show/139d4558718104:29
RNevilletrying to following these directions to set nomodset , but can't seem to get this done : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313204:29
nikolammva, I made BTRFS snapshot before trying to update and I rebooted after trying to update. You think i should do BTRFS fsck?04:30
mvanikolam: strange... And what if you'll try to `touch /moo && (test -e /moo && echo success || echo fail); rm /moo`?04:31
Bashing-omRNeville: In small steps; reboot and as soon as the bios screen clears depress and hold a shift key . what results ?04:32
nikolamhttps://bpaste.net/show/b5a41fdacc2604:33
RNevilleI'm not sure nomodset is my problem, I followed the instruction in the link (I think correctly04:34
mvanikolam: also, how about `snapper list`?04:34
RNevilleseems to freeze once ramdisk is loading04:34
nikolamThe program 'snapper' is currently not installed.04:34
RNevilleused "control e" when choosing kernel to load, and then modified grub file , not sure about emacs editing though04:35
Bashing-omRNeville: Alternately then, from the grub boot menu what results with a recovery kernel ?04:36
RNevillecouldn't get "control x" to save file, so I could once again use "control e" to make sure edits to grub file saved04:36
RNevillerecovery kernel froze, also04:36
Bashing-omRNeville: ctl+e is not valid so far as I know . just the04:37
Bashing-om'e' key to gain edit mode .04:37
nikolamwhat's this: cgmfs                                   100K     0  100K   0% /run/cgmanager/fs04:37
RNevilleBashing-om, ctl*e did bring up grub file (not sure of terminology)04:38
mvanikolam: also, post `btrfs filesystem show`, please04:38
RNevilleprobably shouldn't be using "grub file" terminology04:38
mvanikolam: and cgmfs is virtual fs (doesnt't take anything on your root fs)04:39
roothorickboth my graphics card and my ondie are shown by xrandr --listproviders, but the outputs don't appear in the list. It's not detecting an attached monitor for that matter04:40
RNevilleokay, reread instruction - should be using just "E" and not ctrl+e04:40
nikolamHmm, something fishy there for second device.. probably I didn't unmount it after making backup.. https://bpaste.net/show/0e662fade8ef04:40
RNevilleI'll trying rebooting and when bios screen disappears, I'll hold down shift key04:41
mvanikolam: > devid    1 size 57.22GiB used 57.22GiB path /dev/sde104:41
mvagotcha!04:41
nikolamgot to be btrfs snapshots, but.. I have plenty of space on sde1, even with them..04:42
mvanikolam: run `btrfs fi df /` and `btrfs fi df /home`04:42
mvanikolam: it can be out of metadata space04:42
nikolamhttps://bpaste.net/show/209d12879eef04:43
nikolamwth04:43
mvayeah. Metadata is more than 75%. It can produce out of space ;)04:44
nikolambut...04:44
mva(yeah, enjoy your shiny btrfs)04:44
mvaand the probably (!) fix is: `btrfs fi balance start -dusage=5 -v /home` and `btrfs fi balance start -dusage=5 -v /`04:45
nikolamlet me check this with #btrfs or something. If it is only that..04:45
mvaand wait until it will finish ;)04:45
nikolamwhat dusage does?04:45
mvaThe -dusage=5 bit means only chunks that are at most 5% used will be relocated.04:46
nikolamit can't balance, no data left on device..04:46
mvaotherwise you can wait for rebalancing for eternity04:47
mvauhm...04:47
mvanikolam: so, you can also ask on #btrfs for advices how to cleanup snapshots *and* rebalance metadata in current situation :)04:48
nikolamwill do mva, thanks04:48
roothoricklovely, nvidia blob driver bug breaks DPMS on DisplayPort devices04:49
nikolamI will clean some snapshot, yet i am sure there's plenty of space (snapshots shoudl not take space).04:49
RNevilleBashing-om, when I hold "shift" key after bios screen I get screen where I can choose Ubuntu or advance04:53
RNevilleI choose advanced and then press "E" to modify grub04:53
mvanikolam: btw, http://marc.merlins.org/perso/btrfs/post_2014-05-04_Fixing-Btrfs-Filesystem-Full-Problems.html04:54
mva> Balance cannot run because the filesystem is full04:54
mvatake a read ;)04:54
RNevilleset nomodset then used F-10 to boot using grub04:54
nikolamhuh, thanks mva04:54
nikolamjust about to delete some snapshots04:55
RNevillethen got the following: Booting a command list Loading Linux 4.4.0-62 generic Loading initial ramdisk04:55
RNevillethen computer freezes04:55
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Bashing-omRNeville: Nope .. the advanced (recvovery) also has nomoedset in it . .. Ya want the latest normal kernel selected as boot and then press the 'e' key for edit mode .04:56
RNevilleBashing-om, I thought I choose the lastest kernel04:57
RNevilleI didn't use a recovery mode option,04:58
Guest54869hey can anyone helps me i have some issue in ubuntu....network issue04:58
Bashing-omRNeville: In advanced is the recovery kernel .. ok ? you want at this time to work with the normal kernel .04:58
RNevillechose/choose**04:58
RNevilleI believe I worked with the normal kernel, I know I'm a little off on terminology, but chose standard kernel04:59
RNevilleI did go under "Advance" but didn't choose a recovery mode kernel05:00
Bashing-omRNeville: K ... then we get the boot parameters scren when e is preseed . in this sckeen is a line starting with linux containing quiet splash . What release are we working with ?05:00
RNevillemaybe, I'm missing the point, Bashing-om ; maybe your trying to tell me I shouldn't have went under "advance" at all05:00
RNeville16.0405:01
Bashing-omRNeville: Yeah .. I think I have said that 3 times, no ?05:01
RNevilleyes, got to line linux containg quiet splash and added nomodset05:01
RNevilleokay, just everything is so confusing - maybe just to me05:02
RNevilleI'll try on more time, then calling it a night05:02
RNevillethanks for help Bashing-om , anyway05:03
Bashing-omRNeville: OK ! .. replace quiet splash with nomodeset - so we see the boot messages . key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process .05:03
RNevillek05:03
RNevillerebooting now05:04
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cfoch-alwayshi05:11
cfoch-alwaysI have this error with mysql05:11
cfoch-alwayshttps://dpaste.de/kx1d05:11
cfoch-alwayssometimes my mysql server doesn't work05:11
cfoch-alwayscould you give me a hand?05:12
cfoch-alwaysor a foot, please?05:12
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ill_logicCould somebody help me with ecryptfs and logging in? I just installeda new Ubuntu Server on top of an old one, keeping my home partition.05:31
rebill_logic: i can05:32
ill_logicI set up a new password when I installed. Not surprisingly, when I log in my home dir is encrypted.05:32
ill_logicI run the manual command and I can decrypt it.05:32
ill_logicBack in the day, it would have the same password as my login, and automatically decrypte.05:32
ill_logicHow do I bring it back to that state? The explanations online are not straightforward.05:33
ill_logicIt seems like Ubuntu must have hacked something together, and I don't know exactly how to re-hack it.05:33
ill_logicreb: Thank you.05:33
phi_can i ask linux mint question here?05:34
rebGive details05:35
nikolamI now have problem with dpkg/pulseaudio.. https://bpaste.net/show/a90a7fdf2a7305:35
rebon my mail05:35
rebtayson85@bk.ru05:36
Bashing-om!mint | phi_05:37
ubottuphi_: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org05:37
rebill_logic:tayson85@bk.ru05:38
nikolamhttps://bpaste.net/show/46e10bdcb2f705:39
ill_logicI'd rather just get help here.05:39
nikolamill_logic, be sure to have backups. make new user on new install and/or rename previous hoem dir to something else05:40
nikolamFind some docs on mounting old encryped home and copy data to a new one05:40
ill_logicHmm. You know, that's what I did before, isn't it.05:41
ill_logicSo, the answer is make a new user.05:41
ill_logicEh, okay.05:42
ill_logicThanks, I guess I'll do that.05:42
ill_logicKind of sad that that's all that they've come up with.05:42
nikolamill_logic, don't get me by the word, must be more clever way there, but Backups should not be tied to a solution/platform anyway, so copying them to new user is always safe bet05:43
^MikeWhat does ubuntu use for time synchronization? I don't see ntp or ntpdate installed...05:44
^Mike(I'm running 16.04)05:44
nikolam^Mike, I see there are ntp packages to install05:45
^MikeSure, but the OS must already have something doing time sync, right? I wouldn't want to double-up.05:45
nikolamsure, don't know personally, but ic could be that time syncronizing by default might upset someone's privacy/e.g. reveal up location.05:47
^Mikeoh, ubuntu uses systemd now, right? I bet systemd ate ntpd05:48
^Mike`$ sudo systemctl status time-sync.target ` reveals all05:49
^Mikewell, some :P05:49
ill_logicnikolam: I did make backups before reinstalling. So that's covered regardless.05:50
ill_logicSo, I just changed my password back to the same password I had before (which matches my ecryptfs password) and it now decrypts automatically on login.05:51
ill_logicI bet that if I change my password back now, it'll change my ecryptfs password as well.05:51
ill_logicbam, there it is.05:52
ill_logicThanks for the inspiration :-D05:52
ill_logicNow we both know better.05:52
ill_logicOkay, cheers.05:52
nikolamyup that could be it ill_logic05:52
nikolamhah05:52
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^Mikewell, I just installed ntp on the assumption that "conflicts" or "replaces" or something would be set appropriately05:54
^Mikenothing seems to have broken05:55
^Mikeyet05:55
Bashing-om^Mike: Does terminal command ' timedatectl ' help ? My result: http://termbin.com/wrw3 .05:55
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NemosCene21Try our Pied Piper compression platform guys!05:59
NemosCene21Try our Pied Piper compression platform guys!06:01
niggardhi06:01
niggardis './dir/script.sh' a relative path?06:01
niggardis it always relative to the $HOME or not at all?06:02
Ben64"." = current directory, so yes, that is relative06:03
Bashing-omniggard: The shorthand './' says the script in this here present directory .06:03
niggardthanks06:03
cfoch-alwayshi06:07
cfoch-alwaysfor some reason06:07
cfoch-alwaysmy mysql server doesn't work sometimmes06:07
cfoch-always*sometimes06:07
cfoch-alwayscould you give me a hand please?06:07
B105PH3REcfoch-always: be a little most specific on doesn't work mean exactly. can't connect won't start, crashes....06:10
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cfoch-alwaysB105PH3RE: https://dpaste.de/K06606:16
cfoch-alwayssure ^06:16
InvinciIn-vincible06:17
B105PH3REcfoch-always: does your mysql log have any extra info06:19
Invincijoin #tor06:19
B105PH3REcfoch-always: was this a fresh install or it just started doing this all of a sudden and also what release are you using version mysql version?06:20
Invincijoin #torr06:20
B105PH3REyou forgot the / at the beginning Invinci06:20
cfoch-alwaysB105PH3RE: mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.7.17, for Linux (x86_64) using  EditLine wrapper06:21
Invincireally sorry I am noob..06:21
B105PH3REitsa ll good06:21
B105PH3REcfoch-always: so your not using ubuntu release not sure I can help but I will try06:21
cfoch-alwaysI am06:22
cfoch-alwaysI am using ubuntu 16.0406:22
B105PH3REok well then I may be able to help06:24
B105PH3REcfoch-always: Is this a fresh setup or it just started happening?06:24
cfoch-alwaysB105PH3RE: it just started happening06:25
cfoch-alwaysbut I am not sure if this is because I changed php settings or because I got wrong on one command importing datbase and I did "mysqldump -u foo -p my_db < my_db_to_import.sql"06:26
cfoch-alwaysB105PH3RE: what do you need to see in log?06:27
cfoch-alwaysbecause it is long06:27
B105PH3REanything that would help give more error messages or problems.06:28
B105PH3REit would be related to the mysql import you did most likely but not the php thats apache stuff should affect the mysql server06:28
B105PH3REi'm assuming that the databases need to kept or restored?06:29
cfoch-alwayshttps://dpaste.de/skO006:29
cfoch-alwaysB105PH3RE:06:29
B105PH3REwait one06:29
cfoch-alwaysI don't want to delete anything in db if you mean that06:29
cfoch-alwaysand it sometimes happens06:30
cfoch-alwaysnot happening now (un)luckily06:30
cfoch-always(un)luckyly06:30
cfoch-alwaysB105PH3RE: ^06:33
B105PH3REok give me a few to review things06:33
cfoch-alwaysthanks06:34
B105PH3REits seems to be your innodb plugin thats causing the problem when's the last time you did a database intergrity check or cleaup06:34
B105PH3REalso is you system fully up to date with updates and such06:34
cfoch-alwaysi did sudo apt-get update yesterday06:35
NemosCene21geeks shall inherit the earth!!06:35
B105PH3REcfoch-always: how much ram do you have06:36
cfoch-alwayshow can I know?06:37
cfoch-alwaysfree command, I think?06:37
B105PH3REseems your having a memory problem allocated memory on line 61 and line 8706:38
cfoch-alwayshttps://dpaste.de/5BJq06:38
B105PH3REuse top instead06:39
B105PH3REcheck what other applications are taking up memory06:40
B105PH3REso you only have 512 mb06:40
ajayahmedHi. On my server I run a backup script which dumps databases and website files and then zips them. This causes the entire server to lock and wait times are high and I've narrowed it down to being a journaling issue. Can I turn journaling off for the duration of the backup? If so, aside from less chance of recovery from unexpected shutdowns, is there any reasons or concerns to not do this?06:41
tatertotsno geeks will work for the people who inherit the earth06:41
Ben64ajayahmed: why not ionice06:42
B105PH3REcfoch-always: you need more ram or shutdown othre processes taking ram06:42
B105PH3REcfoch-always: i would recommend backing up now06:44
ajayahmedBen64 the script launches uninterruptible. I'm trying to find out how you make a process uninterruptible and then I should be able to find the line that's doing this06:45
lotuspsychjeajayahmed: the #ubuntu-server guys might also know06:45
B105PH3REcfoch-always: use 'free -h'06:52
lotuspsychjegbellinoz: check this: http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/tips-to-improve-ubuntu-speed06:55
anddamcan Launcher or Dash act as calculator?07:02
anddamand different question: does adding a google online account in System Settings automatically configure an IMAP account locally? I'd like to avoid that and just have Google Docs integration07:03
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alocompsci_Anyone know why a command in startup applications wouldn't run? All of my commands are not working. I have things like: sleep 20; setxkbmap -option ctrl:swapcaps07:21
alocompsci_and sleep 20; touchegg &07:21
alocompsci_but for some reason a few days ago it stopped working and I can't figure out why..07:22
kr29'07:38
kr29g'day Ma07:39
Miszczujkgdfhkgjdhdf07:40
MiszczuHello07:41
gbellinozlotuspsychje:  I appreciate that you're convinced of this and are trying to convince me.  I appreciate learning something.  But so far, you haven't explained *what* 'unneeded files' accumulate, and *how* they slow a system down.  That article you link to doesn't add much value.  It's basically stating that you need to clean out 'junk', but it's not clear the author has any real technical knowledge that would back up that idea.  And, you ha07:41
gbellinozplus, you were asserting that there'd be application errors when there was 'junk', not that the system would run faster.  Different.07:42
anddamgbellinoz: yep, the fist few lines suggest the author has no knowledge of what's talking about, it's just a pot-boiler article to attract visitors and show some ad07:43
anddam"You have too many application installed"07:43
anddamhalfway between Myth and urban legends07:44
pr3phello07:44
pimpHeil Hitler und Das Dritte Reich!  Allle heil der allmächtige Deutsch rasse!  |  Hail Hitler and The Third Reich!  All hail the almighty German race!07:44
ducassepimp: stop that wackjob crap07:44
anddamducasse: it's not even funny, just sad07:45
pimpducasse: Fuck du, Juden! | Fuck you  Jew07:45
* ducasse shakes head07:45
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anddamducasse: any hint about my previous questions?07:46
ducassepimp: your german sucks, btw.07:46
gbellinozDrone`: Ban? ^^^07:46
ducasseanddam: which one?07:46
pimpducasse: ICH SPRECHE SEHR GUT DEUTSCH07:46
pimp!ops | Heil Hitler und Das Dritte Reich!  Allle heil der allmächtige Deutsch rasse!  |  Hail Hitler and The Third Reich!  All hail the almighty German race!07:47
ubottuHeil Hitler und Das Dritte Reich!  Allle heil der allmächtige Deutsch rasse!  |  Hail Hitler and The Third Reich!  All hail the almighty German race!: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, 07:47
DalekSecpimp: Please don't do that here.07:47
anddamthe Dash/Launcher as calculator, and the online account entry about IMAP, I'd like to add my account but not having any IMAP client configured automatically07:47
pimpDalekSec: which thing do I not do here?07:47
anddamDalekSec: dat ist gut07:48
WoLfHello everyone, one quick (and hopefully simple) question.. How can I disable power management (hdparm -B 255) automatically on an usb drive that is not present at boot? Would /etc/hdparm.conf work for that if it's not plugged in?07:49
pr3phello guys07:49
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pir8g33khola07:49
ducasseanddam: i don't use unity, so not really. i've seen people mention here that the dash can do simple calculations, but don't know if it requires the installation of a separate package.07:50
anddamsimple search didn't brought anything relevant, I'll have another attempt07:50
anddamthanks07:50
ducasseWoLf: you could use a udev rule, i guess07:50
anddamducasse: what do you use?07:50
ducasseanddam: you mean de/wm? i3.07:50
WoLfducasse: I'll look into that, thanks for the lead.07:51
anddamducasse: ah nice, I'm fascinated by tiling wm and would like to try one now that I'm full time on a linux system07:51
ducasseWoLf: look at the udev article on the arch wiki, it should have examples you can use07:51
WoLfThanks =)07:51
anddamducasse: but I picked a default ubuntu out of praticatility since everything worked out of the box on this laptop07:51
anddamarch wiki is very good07:52
anddamducasse: oh my, unity-scope-calculator package07:53
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ducasseanddam: sounds promising :)07:54
anddamah turns out what I called "dash" was in fact "HUD" and what I called "Launcher" was in fact "Dash"07:56
anddamand the Launcher is the icon dock07:56
ducasseanddam: be aware that if you switch to a tiling wm (or any other standalone wm) there is a lot of stuff you need to set up and take care of yourself that just works in a desktop env.07:57
anddammm I had unity-scope-calculator already installed but it's not working, and no docs to be checked in package07:58
hateballanddam: you could go the middle route and run KDE Plasma with something like https://github.com/faho/kwin-tiling07:58
hateballso many options. also plasma has glorious krunner that includes calculator among other things ;p07:58
ducasseanddam: gnome3 also has a tiling extension, i think it's called shellshape07:59
anddamI have no real affection for KDE07:59
anddamor GNOME actually07:59
Psychonautanddam, enable online search to use calc scope08:00
anddamdone, that's intuitive???08:02
anddamenabling online search in order to use (local) calculator08:02
anddamI see the result now, as third scope08:03
anddamis there a way to tell Dash that when a calculator scope is available then it has to be the first one?08:03
anddamand answer to self: once added the online account in System Settings there's a more fine-grained setting for each app, I just turned Evolution mail access off08:05
anddamwhy is Evolution the default value for Mail, Calendar and Contacts in Online Accounts if Evolution isn't installed by default on the system?08:07
anddam(but thunderbird is)08:07
WoLfducasse: added an udev rule and it works like a charm. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.08:08
ducasseWoLf: yw :)08:08
anddamthe support Google provides to linux users is unbelievably low considering the use they make of the platform08:10
WoLfThis is why I love IRC (when people are active ;P) .. you can sit there spinning your wheels for hours trying to figure something out, searching and looking in the wrong place.. then you ask someone else and boom. 5 minutes and it's resolved. lol.08:10
anddambut I guess it makes sense users-number-wise08:10
anddamWoLf: also, there's LoL at the end.08:10
anddamnot so much in low traffic channels where it's just frustrating08:10
B105PH3REits the objective look at things that tends to help08:11
B105PH3RElow traffic some channels have not traffic its strange08:11
anddamfat-fingered08:12
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anddamwhy do a few package in Ubuntu Software Center not have their description trimmed? https://dl.dropbox.com/s/t2ovg1jww4x7raz/Screenshot%20from%202017-02-17%2009-18-01.png08:19
ducasseanddam: file a bug on it if you think it should be shorter08:21
anon1hello all08:22
anddamducasse: the point is if it's a bug or not08:25
nikolamI updated server this morning around 6-7 AM and now see that it probably tried to update to 16.04.2 that landed today and... it failed to boot after restqart...08:25
anddamducasse: I see a few other description that are cut with ellipsis, that suggests it's a behavior of the program08:26
nikolamI got only initramfs...08:26
ducasseanddam: i don't know, but if you file a bug with examples the people who do know will tell you. personally i'd guess it's just a result of formatting/length of descriptions or something like that.08:28
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nikolamSo downloading 16.04.2 LTS ISO to make bootable USB to see what I can do.. (restore BTRF snapshot for a start..)08:30
bikramhow configure 2 interface for ubuntu router08:32
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pio1hey can someone tell me how to burn an ISO in Ubuntu?08:48
pio1I couldn't find any useful program in Ubuntu store that would do that and there doesn't seem to be any program by default08:49
pio1nevermind I think I got it08:50
B105PH3REpio1: you could use xfburn08:50
B105PH3REpio1: if you like console you can use dd but thats more technical08:51
aulahey guys08:51
pio1I installed brasero, I couldn't find it in Ubuntu Software but I installed it using apt-get install08:51
B105PH3REthat works too08:51
pio1I think Ubuntu Software might not display all the software to me08:51
aulahey biosphere08:51
aulawhats up08:52
aulahello?08:52
aulahi anyone08:53
B105PH3REaula hey08:56
coolguywassup ma homies08:57
eilwho use tegaki?sudo apt-get install tegaki-recognize tegaki-train tegaki-zinnia-japanese tegaki-zinnia-simplified-chinese ibus-tegaki python-tegaki python-tegakitools08:58
coolguyyo homies hows it goin08:58
eilbut when i add it in ibus08:58
eilit just out of work08:59
ghotiIs there a programmatic way that I should be making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? I.e. something that'll let me say, "remove all configuration for wlan0, replace eth0 configuration with blah"?09:09
Sel_fin_roothello , what is better flatpak o snapackage ?09:10
nikolamnow I wrote 16.04.2 ISo to 2GB usb and now it fails to boot... Maybe GPT wasn't seleting when creating it in |Rufus?09:11
pikapikachu\join python09:14
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zisthello09:17
zistany body here?09:17
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B105PH3REyes09:21
B105PH3REzist hello09:25
B105PH3REhe left nvm09:25
itsgokulsectiond 5.6 http://guides.rubyonrails.org/v4.0/getting_started.html09:29
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nx9010shutdown09:29
itsgokuli get forbiddenattributes error09:29
itsgokuleven after i do private def post_params..09:30
PharaohSDSup idiots09:30
itsgokulhelp09:30
PharaohSDwiht what itsgokul09:30
itsgokulsee section5.6 http://guides.rubyonrails.org/v4.0/getting_started.html09:31
itsgokulsee my controller http://pasteboard.co/zn20PREGO.png09:33
hvnhi all, this new upgrade https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3199-1/ broke our server, same error with https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=850025 where can I report to Ubuntu dev to fix that?09:34
ubottuDebian bug 850025 in python-crypto "python-crypto: regression: 2.6-4+deb7u4 breaks python-paramiko" [Normal,Open]09:34
itsgokulerror page http://pasteboard.co/zn3n2fM5q.png09:34
ldshHi, it seems I found something regarding my sound problem: if I reboot before powering on the headset, I have sound. (this is on an optical output of the motherboard, if I use my headset one day, it doesn't work on next reboot, but if I reboot a second time without having used it in between, it works again).09:48
B105PH3REldsh: what program are you using to control the output cuz I use pavucontrol to turn on the output/disable09:50
elias_a_ldsh: What kind of headset do you have if it needs powering on?09:50
ruxuHi, I'm trying to set up a consul-based DNS server, and `dig @0.0.0.0 -p 8600 redis.service.consul` works, it returns `NOERROR` status. However, I would like to have my host resolve just by providing the redis name (i.e. `dig redis`). What should I do in order to make this work?09:52
ruxuI've added `search service.consul` to my `/etc/resolv.conf`09:52
ruxuand `nameserver 0.0.0.0`09:52
ruxubasically, this is my resolv.conf: http://pastebin.com/PGbC9MRz09:53
momomoi need an x server on ubuntu server09:55
momomoi installed tightvncserver09:55
momomoand logging in to server using ssh09:55
momomobut starting software seem not to work09:56
momomodo i need to login to the server in some other way?09:56
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EriC^^momomo: where are you ssh'ing from?09:56
momomofrom termina09:56
momomol09:56
EriC^^also ubuntu?09:56
momomoyes09:57
EriC^^momomo: try ssh -X user@host09:57
EriC^^momomo: then start any gui app09:57
priporghi looking for software to scan for deleted files...i accidently deleted a folder full of files :-(09:58
EriC^^priporg: which filesystem was it on?09:59
priporgEriC^^, it was on a usb thumb drive09:59
EriC^^priporg: ok, first stop using the usb as soon as possible, second type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" with the usb plugged in10:00
dumle29Is there a way to use a trrs headset remote in ubuntu?10:00
priporgEriC^^, ok ill try that10:00
EriC^^priporg: ok, paste the link it gives you here10:01
momomoEriC^^: i think that worked10:01
momomohowever, do I need tightvnc-server to run that command?10:01
EriC^^momomo: ok, great10:01
momomo-X ?10:01
momomoor would it have worked without as well>10:01
momomo?10:01
EriC^^momomo: yeah tightvnc isn't needed10:01
EriC^^-X is X-forwarding for ssh10:02
momomoso it would render on my laptop instead?10:02
priporgEriC^^, it says unrecognided disk label10:02
EriC^^you just need xorg installed and ssh (with Xforwarding enabled)10:02
momomowhat happens when I log off from laptop?10:02
matkatmusichowdy10:03
EriC^^momomo: what do you mean?10:03
EriC^^momomo: when you exit ssh as usual it just closes everything10:03
EriC^^priporg: please paste the link here10:04
matkatmusicI'm running ubuntu in a VM on OS X.  just ran 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and now I'm presented with a pink 'grub-pc' window10:04
matkatmusicasking where to install grub devices10:04
EriC^^matkatmusic: choose the main disk10:04
matkatmusicshould I install to VBOX_HARDDISK?10:04
matkatmusicit's giving me a list of 4 places to install to10:05
EriC^^matkatmusic: can you take a screenshot of the screen and upload to imgur.com >10:05
EriC^^?10:05
RxMcDonaldHi, is it possible to make high performance C++ computations in ubuntu computer software?10:05
matkatmusichttps://s14.postimg.org/mrhw6bdbl/Screen_Shot_2017_02_17_at_5_05_14_AM.png10:05
RxMcDonaldI need to implement a computer10:05
matkatmusicEriC^^: https://s14.postimg.org/mrhw6bdbl/Screen_Shot_2017_02_17_at_5_05_14_AM.png10:06
EriC^^matkatmusic: first choice, /dev/sda10:06
matkatmusicok thanks10:06
anddamRxMcDonald: it is possible10:06
EriC^^np10:07
RxMcDonaldhi, how do you make a ubuntu computer to read C++ code? It's not reading it10:07
sruliin bash how can i set a variable without quotes? i.e. drive=sda when called it just inserts sda which is good, however size="-l 100%FREE" will be inserted as '-l 100%FREE' thats not good, i have to set the variable with "" as it contained -l... what would be the right way to set this variable?10:07
anddamRxMcDonald: in order to implement a computer you'd need to learn some electronics10:07
EriC^^RxMcDonald: install gcc10:07
matkatmusichttps://s21.postimg.org/wqsqq9u9j/Screen_Shot_2017_02_17_at_5_06_58_AM.png EriC^^ ummm10:07
RxMcDonaldI put the C++ instruction code inside the ubuntu cumputer and it doesn't read it10:07
anddamEriC^^: my money are on "trolling"10:07
EriC^^matkatmusic: press no10:07
EriC^^matkatmusic: when /dev/sda is highlighted press "space"10:08
matkatmusicah ok10:08
RxMcDonaldThere is a problem with ubuntu C++ code performance for high computing systems engineering10:08
matkatmusicthanks10:08
anddamRxMcDonald: oh nice to know, what problem is it?10:09
ldshB105PH3RE, I mainly use the default Gnome shells settings, but I also tried some other without success.10:09
B105PH3REldsh: are you using alsa or pulseaudio10:09
k1lRxMcDonald: stop that trolling now. you tried it the last times already. dont misuse this channel or you will get banned10:10
ldshelias_a_, I have a wireless headset with charging station (Sennheiser RS 175). Under Windows it always works correctly.10:10
ldshB105PH3RE, the default with Ubuntu Gnome (I think pulseaudio).10:11
B105PH3REldsh: i'm assuming you tried pavucontrol or not yet otherwise changing the order priority might help10:12
ldshB105PH3RE, I had the same Issue on a fresh Archlinux also with gnome shell.10:12
elias_a_ldsh: How do you get the audio signal to the headset from the computer?10:12
elias_a_ldsh: 3,5mm line output?10:12
lilredis there any way to spawn a long-living process from my login script?10:13
ldshB105PH3RE, I tried changing the order priority, but this did not seem to help. For now, the only thing that seems to work is to reboot without making use of the headphone.10:13
ldshelias_a_, Optical S/PDIF10:13
EriC^^lilred: <program> &10:13
B105PH3REldsh: so once you use the headphones optical doesn't work anything is that whats happening10:13
lilredEric^^: thanks, I'll try that now10:13
EriC^^lilred: there's also 'startup apps' in the dash if you're using unity10:14
James_Freewallhey guys10:15
James_Freewallmy ubuntu is not working10:15
ldshB105PH3RE, If I use the headphone one day, at next reboot I have no sound with the headphone. I need to boot (Linux), not use the headphone, than reboot (Linux), and now I have sound. Each time I use the headphone, I'll need to reboot without using it prior to have sound again.10:15
James_Freewallldsh: can you help me??10:16
James_Freewallmy net tools 4.33 doesn't work on ubuntu10:16
James_Freewallthe lagswitch i'm trying to use for mw2 is not working10:16
James_Freewall:((10:16
B105PH3REldsh: ok I get it now so if your booting up with headphone as default then you have to switching to it is the only was it works.10:16
ldshJames_Freewall, First describe more concisely what is not working, and maybe someone who understand what's happening will be able to help you.10:17
B105PH3REldsh: whats the audio hardware your using lspci audio device10:17
James_Freewallfuck you dude are you trying to troll me10:17
James_Freewalli'm a marine10:17
RxMcDonaldk1l: you just came out of nowhere to personally attack me instead of solving my ubuntu problems, you are not nice10:17
James_Freewallmy commanding officer is looking over my shoulder rn10:17
James_Freewallhe thinks you're a faggot10:17
elias_a_ldsh: Perhaps the headset base unit needs to be identified from scratch after boot.10:18
elias_a_James_Freewall: Start behaving or get out.10:18
ldshB105PH3RE, Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio (rev 31)10:18
James_Freewallelias_a: my headphone is picking air traffic control signals10:18
James_Freewallelias_a_ fuck off dude i'm a marine10:19
elias_a_James_Freewall: Well that is as self evident as your being both arrogant and stupid.10:19
James_Freewallelias_a_ are you fucking dumb dude i killed 2 sand dune surfers to save your lazy ass and protect your liberties10:20
James_Freewallfucking bag of dicks10:20
k1lJames_Freewall: stop that attitude asap or you will need to leave this channel.10:20
James_Freewallk1l: sorry i'm a ubuntu god and you aren't10:20
k1l!guidelines | James_Freewall10:20
ubottuJames_Freewall: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines10:20
ldshDrone`, I think there is need to clean from a parasite.10:20
James_Freewallubottu: i don't need your guidlines kid i'm the author of the bible10:21
ubottuJames_Freewall: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:21
ldshk1l, Thanks ;)10:21
James_Freewallwhoa what happened10:21
eck77what is the channel name for linuxmint community?? I've some probems to get fixed :(10:21
James_Freewalleck77: it's #cicadian330110:22
k1lJames_Freewall: stick to the guidelines or be banned. your choice10:22
James_Freewallhttp://www.pornhub.com/information these??10:22
k1l!mint | eck77 its on another irc network10:22
ubottueck77 its on another irc network: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org10:22
k1ljust for information: use the !ops trigger if such users misuse this channel to notify the ops team if no op is around10:23
eck77thanks all10:23
ldshelias_a_ I do not know what is really happening internally. I'm already happy to have found a solution (boot twice, without using the headphone), even if not that convenient.10:24
elias_a_ldsh: Ok.10:25
ldshk1l, Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to do when calling "Drone" ;) Good to know.10:25
warlord77can any1 tell me how to contribute to openstack10:27
elias_a_While copying a large amount of files Nautilus shows a progress windows. It however disappears when switching applications. How do show it?10:27
warlord77ubuntu10:27
ldshB105PH3RE, and cat /proc/asound/modules10:27
ldsh 0 snd_hda_intel10:27
ldsh 1 snd_hda_intel10:27
ldsh 2 snd_usb_audio10:27
EriC^^elias_a_: try alt+tab > nautilus then alt+~10:27
ldshelias_a_, It doesn't show any-more in a windows to me (before it was a window I could see under other windows), it is now a pie chart inside nautilus (I'm using Ubintu Gnome, I think this can be a specific feature).10:29
elias_a_EriC^^: Does not work probably because in finnish keyboard layout ~ is behind alt gr...10:29
EriC^^elias_a_: not sure it works really, was a shot that's all10:30
elias_a_ldsh: Gnome is different. I am using stock Ubuntu.10:30
elias_a_EriC^^: Thanks anyway.10:30
srulii am having a problem with a variable in my script . size="-l 100%FREE" when i call it it adds single quotes '-l 100%FREE' how can i set this variable to not have any quotes?10:30
elias_a_I've bumped into this annoyance before but cannot recall how it was solved. :(10:30
EriC^^elias_a_: try keeping alt+tab above nautilus, does it split it to 2 windows?10:31
B105PH3REldsh: when its not working does it just not work at all or do you get odd sounds10:31
ldshelias_a_, Yes, I also think it can be different. If you move the windows, you can't see the progress bar under?10:31
eck77i've deleted my configuration files frm home dirctory. now problem in opening chrome browser. how can i retrieve that config files10:31
B105PH3REldsh: is the devie showing pavucontrol but no output do you see a the vu meter move10:32
ldshB105PH3RE, no sound at all from the headset, but I can have sound trough hdmi for instance.10:32
B105PH3RE3.5mm port correct?10:32
elias_a_Here's the solution: http://www.tipsninja.com/restore-file-transfer-status-window-ubuntu/10:32
ldshB105PH3RE, the headset is plugged on optical output (S/PDIF)10:32
eck77hi anybody thr to help me??10:33
B105PH3REso your only having the problem with the spdif port?10:33
elias_a_eck77: Nope. :)10:33
eck77why??10:33
EriC^^elias_a_: thanks10:34
ldshB105PH3RE, I think so, but I rarely use the others. Each time I tried to use the hdmi output it worked.10:34
B105PH3REldsh: did you try restart the pulseaudio after reboot10:34
ldshB105PH3RE, which is the command to do such?10:35
B105PH3REldsh: well depends on your version of distro and such but usually service pulseaudio restart10:36
B105PH3REyou will have to sudo it10:36
B105PH3REI guess work around would be to switch to another output on shutdown10:37
ldshB105PH3RE, These are nice ideas, I'll try at next reboot (I'm currently running a code I don't want to stop now). I'll to keep you up to date to the results if you are often on IRC.10:39
B105PH3REldsh: do you still see a vu meter when outputing or does the output not show?10:40
ldshB105PH3RE, Yes, when using pavucontroll, everything looks always the same, just that some of the time I hear no sound.10:41
B105PH3REldsh: did you try another device via spdif device other then the headset to verify its not the headset or a different optical cable10:42
ldshB105PH3RE, It's the only device I have that can use this output. What I can compare is to Windows where it always works like expected. Which makes me think that the problem is not the cable nor the device, but something that may be linked to software.10:44
momomodid i miss an answer?10:44
B105PH3REldsh: have you tested it with windows recently10:44
B105PH3REldsh: otherwise its may be the audio syncing thats not working or startup of the device on optical or something I had some problems in the past with that10:45
ldshB105PH3RE, But this discussion makes me wonder if I should not look on issues with my headset and linux instead of issues with my motherboard/audio controller and linux.10:45
B105PH3REldsh: eliminate the easy stuff first then try the harder stuff... it could be a module problem10:46
ldshB105PH3RE, not recently, but last Friday.10:46
B105PH3RErecent enought10:46
B105PH3REso hardwares out10:46
B105PH3RElet me sleep on it see what I can have a moment of inspiration or something10:47
BluesKajHi folks10:49
ldshHi BluesKaj I found something related to the sound problem we already discussed some days ago: If I boot, not use the headphone, than reboot, next time I have sound. 3 days it seems to work :).10:50
BluesKajldsh, remind me , do you have a pci soundcard as well as an onboard audio chip?10:52
BluesKajor is this a laptop?10:53
ldshBluesKaj, Now I have the nvidia GPU who is also working, but no dedicated soundcard.10:53
snowwebplease can someone help me out with my bluetooth on ubuntu 16.04 LTS?10:54
snowwebits not turned on in the network manager area10:54
ldshBluesKaj, but don't worry too much today, I just wanted to tell you I already had a temporary workaround. I've discussed a bit with B105PH3RE and he suggested some things to try next startup. I think It's no hurry before I do these check.10:55
B105PH3REaight peace yall10:56
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BluesKajldsh, do you have pulseaudio installed , if so install pavucontrol as well then you can use the sttings there to make your audio output settings varaible or permanent10:59
ldshBluesKaj, I already tried with pavucontrol, but it didn't help.11:00
anddamdoes Unity have some builtin featureto display monitoring info on desktop? Sort of a conky-like feature11:01
anddams/featureto/feature to/11:01
k1landdam: no, but you can use conky11:02
anddamk1l: sure, but if there's something builtin I'd rather use that11:03
anddamI like coherency11:03
anddamconky it is11:03
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k1landdam: indicators are the coherent way, afaik11:05
alkisghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack says that to install the new stack, this command is needed:  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 11:07
alkisgBut on Ubuntu Mate, this command uninstalls ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop!11:07
alkisgThis command does work properly though:  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04  xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-16.0411:07
alkisgSo my question is, which one should be fixed? The wiki page? The ubuntu-mate-desktop dependencies? Or the xserver-xorg-hwe dependencies?11:07
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k1lalkisg: i guess the mate dependecies are wrong11:11
k1lalkisg: file a bug and then talk to the #ubuntu-mate guys11:11
alkisgk1l: ty, will do11:13
anddamk1l: noted, thanks11:14
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Danknesshow is everyone today?11:21
warlord77can any1 overhere tell me how to contribute to ubuntu11:27
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baizonwarlord77: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu11:29
abhishekanybody use xournal here?11:30
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acarrollAnyone that can potentially help me with this error on an apt-get? 'Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/horizon/python-django-horizon_10.0.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0_all.deb  403  Forbidden [IP: 91.189.92.152 8011:46
acarroll]'11:46
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ldshabhishek, I used it a bit. Better to tell directly what your problem is, because it's more relevant that the fact that we use the software or not.11:54
ldshacarroll, Looks like a repository you added manually. Maybe you should look at their website if they changed anything in the way to install their software.11:56
ldshacarroll, No, the path works. Maybe you got your IP banned or something?11:57
acarrollI am not sure11:57
acarrollwhat is strange is if I try to even wget the file from a mirror it fails?11:57
acarrollI added the princeton mathematics mirror to my apt-get sources and ran an update and it still gives me a 40311:58
ldshacarroll, what does it gives to you if writing http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/horizon/python-django-horizon_10.0.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0_all.deb  in a browser?11:58
acarrollhmm it gives me a 403 again11:59
acarroll(at least from my windows install, this apt-get error is from a graphical-only)12:00
acarrollI can download other files from that directory just fine as well...but I get a 403 whenever I try to download that package, even a different version12:01
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KrapulatHello, I’m getting “Error: SSL: Stacked error: error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:ssl3_get_client_hello:no shared cipher” in dovecot after doing “apt-get upgrade”. Is it possible?12:07
ldshacarroll, That's strange, I can download it from my browser. Seems there is some issues with authorised IP.12:08
ldshacarroll, do you have anything in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ ?12:10
acarroll'ls -a' shows nothing12:11
acarrollI am a tad confused...I have tried several mirrors and none will let me download the python-django-horizon package...I can download other things but not this specific package12:12
SpeirosHi folks.  Just a confirmation.  What is the maximum password length for Ubuntu?  I read somewhere 512, but I think it is half that from a comment here earlier.12:28
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kubancHello. Is it possible to record desktop per workspacE?12:31
SpeirosI just looked at other info, and it suggests that in theory, there should be no limit in password length.12:33
geirhaIf you use shadow file to store the password, only the hash is stored, so yes, it could be any length. But the programs that prompt for password might add arbitrary limits12:35
Speirosgeirha What if I am manually typing my password?  I know it might sound unreasonable, but in theory?  Is it the same perspective?12:36
SpeirosI appreciate the limits imposed by others.12:37
geirhathen yes, it could be any length, since it just hashes it12:38
Speiroslol, cool.12:38
SpeirosThanks geirha12:38
Speirosgeirha As long as signing on doesn't take 8 hours, my employee would be happy, right?:D12:39
geirhaDo I smell an aprils fool? "We had to change everyone's password, here's your new one" and they get the new password as an A4/letter page full of characters?12:42
Speiroslol, sounds quite good to me:P...at least for others.12:42
SpeirosAnd all including symbols, and mathematical formulae.12:43
SpeirosMaybe a page from "Advanced Calculus"12:43
geirhaNah, you only need two characters. 0 and O12:44
dbristowYay, 16.04.2 finally was released.12:44
Speiros:D12:44
beaver@find ldap.conf12:45
beaver!find ldap.conf12:45
gmh2I removed a drive from madam raid 1 on ubuntu 14.04 its and now I am stuck in initramfs. Followed this guide until the "shutdown -h now" part https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/linux-raid-replace-failed-harddisk/12:45
ubottuFile ldap.conf found in apache2, asterisk, asterisk-config, asterisk-doc, courier-ldap, debian-lan-config, dovecot-ldap, gconf2-common, gosa-plugin-nagios, ldap-auth-config (and 19 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ldap.conf&mode=&suite=yakkety&arch=any12:45
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raubHow do you know if you ar erunning ubuntu or plain debian without using lsb_release?13:02
ducasseraub: check if ubuntu-minimal is installed?13:02
hateballraub: cat /etc/issue13:04
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bhofidikaHello13:07
bhofidikaI just connected two monitors with My cpu using vga splitter13:07
bhofidikaHow to seprate display ?13:08
bhofidikaI don't want both to unify.13:08
ducassebhofidika: with a regular vga splitter i'm not sure you can - afaik it just duplicates the signal13:09
bhofidikaThen How to seprate ?13:10
ducassebhofidika: you need two separate video outputs13:11
bhofidikaBut it isn't possible. There is only 1 vga port in my CPU ?13:11
ducassebhofidika: then your only option is a video card13:12
bhofidikaducasse, you mean graphic card ?13:12
ducassebhofidika: yes13:13
bhofidikaWhich one to buy ?13:14
bhofidikaSince I am using dual core processor with 4GB ram13:14
ducassebhofidika: i don't know, but make sure it has at least two outputs13:15
bhofidikaok thanku13:18
cfoch-alwayshi13:21
cfoch-alwayshow can I restore default php.ini?13:21
farshid_hello13:27
SpeirosYou rang?13:27
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tomreyncfoch-always: you could backup all files created by the package ("dpkg -L php7"), purge and reinstall the package.13:28
z1haze_workI have this `PS1=$'\[\e[38;5;203m\]\W \u28ff\[\e[0m\] '` on my current terminal, and I want to change colors, but I did this so long ago I am having trouble translating this to know where I need to change. Can anyone please help?13:33
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z1haze_worki just want to change the colors in this is all i want to do13:34
EriC^^z1haze_work: what color do you want13:34
z1haze_workCan it be a custom color?13:35
z1haze_worklike and rgb?13:35
SpeirosCya13:35
EriC^^z1haze_work: 256 colors i think13:36
z1haze_workoh! ok i found a little cheat sheet, that makes since now. thank you13:36
EriC^^z1haze_work: ok, no problem13:37
cfoch-alwaystomreyn: tomreyn I think that php7.0 doesn't include php.ini13:38
tomreynhmm probably php-common or something then.13:46
tomreyncfoch-always: you can check using dpkg -S /etc/php7.0/php.ini # or whatever the path to php.ini is.13:47
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Guest63310 how to backup my apps/softwares installed in my system?13:59
EriC^^!aptoncd | Guest6331013:59
ubottuGuest63310: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline13:59
Guest63310can i just copy bin lib etc directories to an external drive and reinstall system?14:00
ppfwhy would you copy bin or lib?14:01
Guest63310to save my apps14:01
k1lGuest63310: you can save a list of intsalled packages and save the /etc and /home folder.14:01
ppf+114:02
k1lGuest63310: why save apps that can be reinstalled from the repos easily?14:02
Guest63310oh i see14:02
Guest63310so i just need to save the repositories?14:02
ppfno, you save your data, not your programs14:03
k1lthe ubuntu repos dont need to be saved. you just need to save the list of packages you got from the ubuntu repos.14:03
Guest63310how to save ppts?14:03
k1ldpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list14:03
k1lthen on the new system run"sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/Package.list"  and it will install the same pacakges again"14:04
Guest63310it says permission denied! do i need to run sudo dpkg?14:06
k1lyes14:06
Guest63310even after using sudo it says permission denied14:06
Guest63310can i forward it to my home directory?14:07
yeatsGuest63310: copy and paste your commands and output into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and share the link14:08
EriC^^Guest63310: dpkg --get-selections | sudo tee /home/dir/..14:08
yeats(obscure any private information)14:08
Guest63310thank you very much, so helpful command k1l14:08
k1lGuest63310: is your users home directory set to be owned by root?14:08
k1lEriC^^: i guess he ruined his home directory already before14:08
EriC^^k1l: yup or using another account or something14:09
Guest63310can i do this:  chmod +777 /home14:09
k1lor missed the ~14:09
EriC^^Guest63310: are you doing it from your user?14:09
OerHeksy14:10
yeatsGuest63310: don't do that - do 'sudo chown -R username:username /home/username' (replacing 'username' with your actual username)14:10
Guest63310gotcha14:10
Guest63310well that dpkg thing generates a list of apps in my system14:11
* yeats wonders if we're being trolled14:11
Guest63310so i just need to do this?14:12
Guest63310sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/Package.list14:12
Guest63310and the system will understand?14:12
Guest63310i ran this in the same system and nothing happened14:13
afilcahallooooooooo14:13
Guest63310#yeats #k1l14:14
k1lGuest63310: yes, when you put that file in the users home directory.14:14
k1lfor the settings to be stored copy the users home folder and the /etc folder14:15
Guest63310i ran this in the same system and nothing happened14:15
Guest63310#k1l14:15
k1lbecause that list is already installed.14:15
k1lthere is no difference14:15
Guest63310anyway thank you k1l14:15
Guest63310how not to ruin my root directory #yeats #k1l14:16
dannyLopezHi, I have 2 monitors connecteds, and 1 external video card and 1 internal video card, so, when connect the 2 monitors, only one detects my X, and the other works only when I change to TTYs. How can I do the 2 monitors works at the same time?14:32
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w9qbjdannyLopez, Have you looked at Preferences -> Displays14:37
dannyLopezw9qbj: Yes, but only detect one monitor.14:38
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Guest43536hello14:39
Guest43536how to use this?14:39
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hehe Guest43536: what?14:41
dannyLopezGuest43536: 1 Ask in one line, 2 wait a answer.14:41
josef_ch14:41
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Guest43536hello14:41
hehedannyLopez: what DE are u using?14:46
hehethere's an option saying "configure new displays when connected". I'm using XFCE414:48
hehedannyLopez: there's an option saying "configure new displays when connected". I'm using XFCE414:48
jeeesQuit:14:50
jeeesquit14:51
WoLfHello everyone, I'm having a bit of an issue.. I just configured a wifi connection on a laptop, it negotiates with dhcp and is assigned an address, but I have no network access on it.. I don't seem to find anything wrong with the settings. What should I check for troubleshooting it?14:53
hateballWoLf: can you not ping anything on the local network, or how are you determining network access?14:55
meecwold: can you ping anything on the network? is the gateway answering? do you have mac addresses on the arp table? can you ping your own ip address?14:55
meecwolf, sorry14:55
hateballwhat meec said ;d14:55
WoLfcan't access 10.0.0.1 (router), can't ping anything14:56
meecWoLf no even yourself?14:56
WoLfcan ping same machine, yes.14:56
dannyLopezHi, I have 2 monitors connecteds, and 1 external video card and 1 internal video card, so, when connect the 2 monitors, only one detects my X, and the other works only when I change to TTYs. How can I do the 2 monitors works at the same time?14:57
meecWoLf is firewall off?14:57
meecI mean, in the local computer14:57
meecjust to discard it14:57
WoLfGoing to try flushing iptables, one sec.14:57
hateballdannyLopez: X only works with one card at a time14:57
hateballdannyLopez: for the same session that is... you could spawn a new session on not-tty7 and assign that to a certain chipset14:58
meecWoLf, let me know then14:59
dannyLopezBut, why works in the laptop?14:59
WoLfmeec: I just noticed something while pinging to check after flushing iptables. it tries to connect from the wired address, which is not connected.15:02
meecdannyLopez probably because laptop has only one graphic card and it is aware of both screens at the same time15:02
meecWoLf so it is a routing problem then15:02
meecyou might need to play with network mask or subnets to avoid that15:02
WoLfThanks, I'll look further into that15:03
meecyou are welcome WoLf, if you need more help, let me know15:04
WoLfmeec: I might =) if I can't figure it out on my own, I'll ask for more directions =)15:06
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hateballWoLf: with ping you can use -I to specify interface to use15:09
hateballWoLf: to make sure you're testing the right thing...15:09
koleygrHi, I wonder if there is a bug to say that affects me about unity bar that doesn't always when login... I know hoe to fix it and I have already fix it through csm... but may be is good to say it affects me so it will fixed soon15:14
koleygr*doesn't always load15:14
ducasse!bug | koleygr15:14
ubottukoleygr: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.15:14
Guest13649hello all i have issue if i try to connect in my unity session when i can to do this in console tty, need help15:15
Dreaman!unity815:15
ubottuUnity8 is the next Unity Desktop running on Mir. It is already used on the smartphones running ubuntu-touch (!touch) and can be tested on the Desktop in 16.10 by selecting it on the login screen.15:15
koleygrducasse: I don't have thebug now... I have fixed it... I just can't find the bug to say that affects me15:16
koleygrAnd I have helped some people to fix it but no one of as found the bug to say it affects us15:17
ioriakoleygr, your panel is a standard one or you have added something ?15:17
koleygrioria: I added compiz-settings-manager after the problem to solve it15:19
koleygrI had nothing before15:19
koleygrI think it has to do with nvidia too15:19
ioriakoleygr,  you added compiz-settings-manager to the panel ?15:19
koleygrnot to the panel15:20
koleygrsorry15:20
koleygrnothing on the panel15:20
koleygrhad the problem just after fresh installation15:20
koleygrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/136342115:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1363421 in Unity "Unity Doesn't Start on 14.10 System" [Undecided,Expired]15:20
koleygrmay be has to do with this... but it is expired15:21
ioriakoleygr,  that it for a  daily build ....15:22
ioria*'s15:22
ioriakoleygr,  14.10 ?  i don't think so15:22
koleygrno15:22
koleygrI have 16.0415:22
ioriakoleygr, but you posted is for a 14.10 daily build15:23
koleygrI just havent fount the bug for 16.0415:23
koleygrSorry... this is the only I found with the same problem15:23
koleygrI just can not find a bug on 16.04 to say it affects me.. and I helped three more people to solve it... but may be nobody reported that as a bug15:24
ioriakoleygr, check your logs   ~/.xsession-errors , syslog and dmesg15:25
koleygrioria: http://pastebin.com/T8f9w3fc15:26
koleygrbut this is not from me...15:27
koleygrit is from the last man I helped15:27
RxMcDonaldHi, anyone knows how to install norton anti virus in ubuntu? I'm having a little trouble15:27
koleygrRxMcDonald: Usually you don't need one... what is your problem?15:28
RxMcDonaldkoleygr: my ubuntu computer got computer hacked very hard15:28
RxMcDonaldso now I want to install information security systems on it15:29
anddamkoleygr: he's trolling, again15:30
koleygranddam: thanks15:30
WoLfmeec: Alright, I might need some help. I tried setting wired to dhcp but no difference, I get a route with wifi only if I ifdown both networks and ifup wifi first.15:32
WoLfwhen I do that, I have full network access, internet and all, so it works.15:33
koleygrioria: I have fixed my problem since 5/16... But I can reinstall to reproduce and report the problem15:33
meecare you trying to connect the computer to the same gateway over cable and wifi?15:34
ioriakoleygr,  i see15:34
WoLfCorrect, I'm trying to unplug cable, turn on wifi, have network.15:34
koleygrIoria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears15:38
koleygrioria: this is how I solve it15:38
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koleygrbut not a bug reported there15:39
dannyLopezmeec: Ill try in the secon port of mi external video card. :)15:39
nmap-sshey hey!15:39
OerHekskoleygr, yes there is, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+bug/128544415:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1285444 in at-spi2-core (Ubuntu) "Login Successful, Desktop Never Loads" [Critical,Triaged]15:40
meecWoLf the reason might be that you are receiving the same subnet/IP information over cable and wifi, that will make your computer a little bit crazy when it is trying to connect to the internet, you need to use then only 1 interface, no both at the same time15:41
WoLfmeec: There is no way to automate that? I have to manually ifdown the interfaces to switch, as it is right now.15:42
OerHekskoleygr, lots of users that come here, fixed it with "Issue for me was ~/.Xauthority was owned by root, changing back to $user or removal fixed it"15:42
ztanewhy oh why, when I am purging a kernel image because of out of space in /boot, does it have to *recreate* the initrd for the very kernel that I am *removing* :(15:43
meecWoLf you might be able to do it for sure, but, I don´t have an inmediate solution because when I have that issue I just disable the wifi or the nic by hand, it is only 2 seconds15:43
koleygrOerHeks: Did you show the log file?15:44
koleygrIs it the same bug?15:44
meecI am sure you are not the first one facing that problem and you can find a solution over it15:44
koleygrBecause I just have to say my friends I helped to sy it affects them15:44
ermajnhello, I'm having trouble to debug service start script of carbon-cache installed by chef. When I do command "service carbon-cache start", I got output that service is not started, how can I debug this more?15:44
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meecas an approach you might want to develop an script, load it with cron and check if the ethernet nic has link with mii-tool or similar, in which case you can trigger the wifi or not15:44
WoLfmeec: Alright, I appreciate the help, you've steered me in the right direction and at least now I have a much narrower range to search for troubleshooting =)15:45
OerHekskoleygr, you found the fix, so you can help them. you might want to check out the owner of .Xautority too15:45
WoLfThat might actually be a good idea. it's always plugged in when I'm at the desk, and if I unplug the cable, I will need wifi.. so that check might just work fine.15:46
meecmii-tool was for fastethernet nics15:46
koleygrOerHeks: thank you very much15:46
meecfor gigabitnics is ethtool15:47
meeccheck both15:47
WoLfAlright =)15:47
meecif cable is plugged then wifi down, otherwise wifi up <- convert that to an script and run it by cron should work. That is an approach15:48
WoLfOn an unrelated note.. I never realized how much I hated the new change in interface names (like enp3s0 and wlp2s0 instead of eth0 and wlan0) until I had to type them a hundred times in the past hours. lol.15:48
w9qbjagree with WoLf,  is there an easy way to go back to eth wlan names?  They make more sense.15:50
WoLfit should be a parameter in grub if I remember correctly.15:51
ducasseWoLf: you can use tab expansion for interfaces in many/most cases15:51
cristian_chello15:52
WoLfducasse: that saved my sanity =P but I still had to type it manually editing /etc/network/interfaces15:52
cristian_cI'd like to make avrcp profile working on my bluetooth headset, I mean: media buttons located on the headset15:52
cristian_cI've looked at bluetoothctl info output and avrcp is listed as available for the device15:52
OerHeksw9qbj, you can go back, but i would get used to it http://askubuntu.com/questions/785848/ubuntu-16-04-complicated-interface-names  >> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/15:52
cristian_cwhat methods could I try in order to find the issue?15:53
cristian_cany ideas?15:53
pchoohi all, could anyone point me in the right direction to setting up my laptop to dual boot two copies of the same distro? (I'm using ubuntu gnome and I want to test some graphics related things without affecting my work set up)15:55
yao_ziyuani'm running wine 1.8.5 in ubuntu 16.10. i run two exe apps with wine, one being Freegate, the other being Ultrasurf (both are free tools to bypass china's great firewall).15:59
yao_ziyuana small problem is that Ultrasurf's icon on ubuntu's unity sidebar is rendered as the same as Freegate's icon.15:59
yao_ziyuanwhat could be the cause that one exe app shows up using another exe app's icon?15:59
anddamyao_ziyuan: a wrong .desktop file?15:59
anddamor bad default icon16:00
anddamyao_ziyuan: isn't there an open source equivalent?16:01
anddamI'd be wary of any closed source program claiming to help privacy16:01
yao_ziyuananddam: tor?16:02
anddamI don't really know, but sure16:02
yao_ziyuanproblem solved.16:05
mohithi16:06
mohitgg16:06
yao_ziyuanin ~/.local/share/applications, delete fg_exe.deskotp and u1603_exe.desktop;16:06
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yao_ziyuanin ~/.local/share/icons, delete fg_exe.png and wine.png16:06
koleygrpchoo: you have just to install the new distro in a new partition and then to change two files to shown with different names16:10
pchookoleygr: Ok, I can probably repartition and install to the new partition, which files do I need to change?16:11
kur1jI installed minimal Ubuntu 16.04 on Virtualbox, when it booted up into the console for the first time the login text and information was orange/yellow. However, when I rebooted it seemed to go back to its white/offwhite grey color. Was there a reason for this?16:12
astronaut_I'm trying to extract a .rar folder in Ubuntu, but I get "Parsing filters is unsupported.", what do I do to fix this?16:13
astronaut_Is there an error with the folder itself?16:13
Sel_fin_roothello!!16:14
koleygrpchoo:  /etc/default/grub the line: GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` to GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="NewUbuntuOrNameYouWant"16:14
koleygrpchoo: then sudo update-grub16:15
pchookoleygr: Thanks, I'll look into that.  As another question, is it possible to repartition an encrypted drive?  I have full disk encryption on my SSD16:16
koleygrpchoo: then /etc/lsb-release the line DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 16.04 LTS" to DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="NameYouWant"16:17
koleygrpchoo: you need both files changed16:17
pchookoleygr: Thanks, I'll note that down for the future!16:17
koleygrpchoo: Wait for someone else about encrypted partitions... I have no idea16:18
koleygrI just lock my room :P16:19
pchookoleygr: Haha, thanks, work laptop, so potentially sensitive data on it :P16:19
WoLfmeec: Do you think ifplugd ( http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/ifplugd.8.html ) would serve my situation? it seems to do what I need, detect status of cable and trigger ifdown/up accordingly.16:20
kierqueenhi16:20
kierqueenmy disks show no partition ? WHY16:20
kierqueenalthough fdisk and gparted do show it ?16:20
EriC^^kierqueen: what disk16:22
kierqueengnome-disks16:22
EriC^^kierqueen: maybe a bug? what are you trying to do to start with?16:22
amirhosseinhi16:22
pavloskierqueen, can you try, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX | nc termbin.com 9999 (where X is your drive16:23
amirhosseinhow can i hack instagram16:23
anddamamirhossein: with a lot of passion and dedication16:23
anddamamirhossein: also you need to learn hacking16:23
OerHeksamirhossein, wrong channel dude, and wrong network.16:24
amirhosseinthanks16:24
koleygramirhossein: Just find another girl and let her alone :P16:24
OerHekslets get back to ubuntu support please, thanks.16:25
koleygr<pchoo> koleygr: Thanks, I'll look into that.  As another question, is it possible to repartition an encrypted drive?  I have full disk encryption on my SSD16:26
koleygrOerHeks^ you know to help here^16:26
kierqueenhttp://termbin.com/o71r16:27
kierqueenpavlos16:28
OerHekspchoo, resizing can be a hassle, old wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions16:29
kierqueenpavlos: Are you there, I posted the data, that you asked16:29
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pavloskierqueen, 4 partitions, an extended (300G) and within that, 3 Linux (25G, 100G, 100G). Why the extended is marked bootable, idk. I do not see a primary partition nor a swap.16:35
kierqueenNo, it's an extended partition, and I didn't mark it as bootable , you know ?16:35
kierqueenI think ubuntu did it, on it's own16:35
kierqueenpavlos: Is it not necessary to boot , it16:36
kierqueenpavlos: how does nc work in posting the data, on to the site ?16:36
kierqueenIt's about connections, not posting the data16:37
kierqueenDoes it make my pc vulnerable, by opening tcp connections16:37
pavloskierqueen, no, it does not. This command is if ppl do not have pastebin16:37
kierqueenSo you do gave me a pastebin terbin.com16:38
kierqueenAnd again, shouldn't I have let the partition been bootable ? I didn't touch it, its there on it's own, and I think it will stop booting, if not16:39
pavloskierqueen, either you install pastebinit or you can use this nc thing (read http://termbin.com/)16:39
kierqueenpavlos ok16:40
mynameishello!16:40
mynameisI'm having a problem with my ubuntu 14.04.5, I can't log in after installing fglrx amd driver16:40
kierqueenBut I can't create a luks partiton, as whenever I use gnome-disks it says that 1TB of free space !!16:40
mynameislogging in without gui works though so I was able to download irc client and I'm using it right now :/16:41
pavloskierqueen, I have have experience with LUKS, maybe someone else can help16:41
pavloskierqueen, I dont16:41
kierqueenpavlos: kk16:42
kierqueenhttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/1c0c2a253b694aa3d701da7a4a24d345 I also cannot work with sage after installation16:43
mynameisanyone had the problem where they can't log in after installing graphics drivers?16:43
kierqueenWhat could be the reason that sagemath is not working ?16:44
sudormrfso neither open-vm-tools nor vmware tools are letting me automatically get screen resolution/size right.  workstation 12.5 pro and 16.10.  anyone run across this before?16:44
mynameissudormrf maybe you need to install graphics drivers?16:45
sudormrfmynameis, I have never had to do that before.  on workstation 11 this wasn't an issue.  one difference there is I changed my monitors to 4k panels and I am wondering if it is confusing things16:46
sudormrfand the graphics card isn't pass through anyway16:46
mynameiswhat do you mean?16:47
sudormrfthe VM doesn't know my graphics card exists16:47
sudormrfvmware tools includes the necessary drivers (typically)16:47
sudormrfso does open-vm-tools16:47
mynameisbut Ubuntu installed in it does, doesn't it?16:47
sudormrfwhen you try to install vmware tools it tells you that open-vm-tools is recommended16:47
sudormrf?16:48
sudormrfthe tools package include them16:48
mynameisI'm not sure if I understand what your issue is. What version of Ubuntu do you have and what gpu?16:48
sudormrf16.10 running as a guest16:49
sudormrfmy VMs don't know my GPU exists16:49
mynameismaybe you need to install the drivers for that guest system?16:49
sudormrfthey don't see it16:49
sudormrfI don't follow what you are saying16:49
Dreamanvodeo card is16:49
mynameisI'm not an expert but doesn't the guest system see you video card?16:49
sudormrfI already said it doesn't16:49
Southern_Gentlemyour vm should never talk directly to the host hardware16:50
pchooOerHeks, koleygr: Thanks for that, I'll have a read!16:50
Southern_Gentlemthat is a point of breakage of the isolation between the 2 if they do16:50
mynameishm I see16:50
sudormrfaaannnnnddd I think I found the problem16:51
sudormrfwith someones help from the vmware channel16:51
sudormrftrying it now16:51
mynameisdoes anyone what to do when I can't log in to ubuntu after installing gpu driver?16:52
mynameisI only can log in without graphics interface16:53
de-factoHey guys, i was asked about which video editor would be best for editing screencast tutorial videos: well i never used any, i just guessed KDEnlive, yet any opinions: are there better alternatives for GTK?16:53
Dreamansave mode16:53
Dreamanadvanced grub save mode kernel ala bala16:53
Dreaman:)16:54
Dreamanmynameis  your card is16:54
tomreynmynameis: uninstalling the driver and any leftovers and rebooting should usually work.16:54
mynameisDreaman thanks could you tell me how to access boot settings?16:54
mynameismy card is Radeon R7 250x and Ubuntu 14.04.516:54
Dreamanreboot16:55
mynameisI would like to fix the driver if possible instead of uninstalling it16:55
michal__Hello all16:55
Dreamanmt card is 483016:56
Dreamanradeon16:56
Dreamanbut i use free driver16:56
mynameisthe default one?16:56
Dreamanyes16:56
mynameisI'm trying to deal with this problem since yesterday16:56
mynameisI installed ubuntu and none of available drivers work16:56
mynameiswith the default one only low resolution is available16:57
mynameistoday I installed ubuntu 14.04.5 to try fglrx but now I can't log in16:57
Dreamanmynameis  your ubuntu is old16:57
Dreaman16.0416:58
folattMy phone was turned into a brick after an update.16:58
mynameisyes I know but fglrx doesn't work on 16.04 and above and other drivers didn't work16:58
michal__hello, anyone know how to install vlc on newest ubuntu?16:58
folattI can't start it anymore.16:58
nicomachusDreaman: 14.04.5 is still supported.16:58
folattBq Aquarius E4.5 version 3716:58
nicomachusfolatt: your phone? You're in the wrong channel for that.16:58
nicomachuswhat's the OS on the phone?16:58
folattWhich channel should I go to?16:58
folattUbuntu Touch16:59
nicomachus#ubuntu-touch then16:59
Dreamanhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24014431/    mynameis  see16:59
folattnicomachus, thanks16:59
Dreamanmy system16:59
AlericHello, I just did a 'apt-get upgrade' on ubuntu "stable" and now my kde desktop stopped working. '/usr/bin/plasmashell' returns an error and a popup saying "All shell packages missing.16:59
AlericThis is an installation issue, please contact your distribution"16:59
mynameisDreaman I can't see an images right now because I'm on lynx text browser because of the gui problem I described earlier17:00
nicomachusmynameis: he linked a pastebin... it's just text. but it also doesn't matter. have you tried the open source radeon driver?17:01
mike602Aleric: so do you just need to reinstall "shell packages?" that may fix it?17:01
mynameisnicomachus with the default only screen resultions available for me are 800x600 and 1024x76817:02
mynameiswith the default driver17:02
nicomachusmynameis: odd. what resolution are you trying to get to?17:02
Alericmike602: How would I do that?17:02
mynameisanything above 1024x768 would be nice for start :)17:02
Dreamanmynameis  settings17:02
Dreamantry to fix17:03
nicomachusmynameis: ok but what resolution is your monitor?17:03
nicomachusDreaman: you are giving bad advice. please stop.17:03
mynameis1280x102417:03
mike602Aleric: not 100% sure, but prob need to reinstall KDE?17:03
nicomachusmynameis: are you booted into it now with the radeon ddriver?17:03
nicomachusthere's also a new OS driver, amd-gpu or something, that's available on 16.0417:04
mynameisyes I am booted into in now, but with the fglrx amd driver that broke my system17:04
nicomachusyea I've never had luck with that driver.17:04
mynameisyeah I tried amdgpu-pro on 16.04 and 16.10 and it didn't make any difference, my card is probably not supported in that one17:04
mynameisand since open source driver doesn't change anything either17:05
mynameisit seems that I'm left with no working drivers17:05
mynameisfglrx is my only hope so I switched to 14.04.517:05
nicomachusmynameis: the amdgpu-pro is targeted at the R9 series. You said you're on R7?17:05
mynameisyes r7 250x17:05
nicomachusok. I still think the `radeon` driver is going to be your best bet.17:06
nicomachusworks perfectly on my (albeit older) Radeon HD 645017:06
mynameisnicomachus it's the one installed by default isn't it?17:06
nicomachusI don't remember, honestly.17:07
mynameisbecause I have tried the default one and also the one from oibaf's repository17:07
mynameisand both of them limit my resolution to 1024x76817:07
nicomachusYou can switch to it from System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers17:07
nicomachusand then the resolution issue is a whole different deal that can be handled through xrandr17:07
mynameisoh really?17:07
nicomachusshould be.17:07
mynameisso you think the radeon driver actually works?17:08
nicomachuswe can check, if you don't mind switching to the radeon driver and rebooting real quick17:08
mynameiswith my card17:08
mynameisyeah sure, but right now I'm in text mode so I would probably go into safe mod in order to be able to do that?17:08
nicomachusI'm not the driver expert, but I'm not sure if ikonia or BluesKaj are available atm17:08
Dreamanmynameis  just upgreat ubuntu 16.1017:09
nicomachusDreaman: stop17:09
nicomachusyou are giving bad advice.17:09
mynameisDreaman it doesn't work in ubuntu 16.1017:09
Dreaman16.04 lts17:09
mynameisDreaman I tried that too17:10
nicomachusjust ignore him. he doesn't know what he's talking about.17:10
raj__h17:10
raj__very intresting17:10
mynameisnicomachus what if readeon driver isn't on the list in software > additional drivers?17:10
nicomachusthen we have a whole new list of problems.17:10
mynameisok I will check it out now17:11
mynameisone more thing how do I get into safe mode in ubuntu?17:11
Alericsean:~>ls -l /usr/share/plasma/shells17:11
Alericls: cannot access '/usr/share/plasma/shells': No such file or directory17:11
AlericWhat package is that?17:11
naccAleric: `apt-file` is probably your friend17:12
mynameisnicomachus or should I uninstall the current driver from text mode?17:12
nicomachusmynameis: no need to uninstall it.17:12
naccAleric: plasma-desktop-data, plasma-mediacenter, plasma-sdk, at least on 16.1017:12
mynameisdo you know how to get to boot settings during boot?17:13
AlericHmm, yeah, but which one... Where can I see a history of what has been removed lately by running 'apt-get auto-remove'? I think this might have gotten corrupted because auto-remove deleted a package that I needed.17:13
nicomachusmynameis: you should be able to hold SHIFT to bring up the Grub menu17:13
mynameisnicomachus thank you, brb17:13
sudormrfopen-vm-tools-desktop (didn't realize the -desktop package existed) solved the issue.17:14
nicomachus0_o that username...17:14
nicomachusdangerous, friendo17:14
naccAleric: presumably you could look in the logs (/var/log/apt/history.log)17:15
sleehi, looking for a cron job gui(to make managing jobs easier), i see a few in a random search, wondering if anyone recommends a particular one?17:16
naccslee: I would expect most people that need cron jobs are comfortable using `crontab -e`. Not really a support topic, I'd try with #ubuntu-offtopic.17:16
sleethanks17:17
AlericYup, 'apt autoremove' removed plasma-desktop-data:amd64 a week ago.17:18
nicomachuscase in point: use autoremove carefully!17:18
Alericrebooting...17:20
BadCodSmellIn ubuntu 16.10 did they turn on some special be ultra annoying about any possible error mode?17:21
RNevillehello17:22
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RNevillereally having problems with my other Ubuntu 16.04 computer , installed Nvidia proprietary driver, frozen computer, now17:23
MrFixItI see that 16.04.2 was released. Is my memory off or wasn't the 4.9 kernel originally supposed to be included in this release?17:23
RNevillecan't get nosetmode to work, either17:23
RNevillenomodeset/nosetmode**17:24
Alericok, I got my taskbar and menu's back.. but the desktop itself is still black (not icons and no background image). What could be that? :/17:24
virtuosojUbuntu 16.04.2 uses the 4.8 kernel right?  Why am I still on 4.4 after doing apt update apt upgrade??17:25
Southern_Gentlemdid you reboot17:26
Picivirtuosoj: did you do an apt full-upgrade ?17:26
nicomachusMrFixIt: there have been some setbacks in the 16.04.2 release, so they may have modified the kernel. idk.17:27
nicomachusbut yea, what Pici said. Did you do full-upgrade?17:28
Dreamanvirtuosoj  this is for 16.10 4.817:28
MrFixItvirtuosoj, it looks like you are going to need to install linux-image-extra-4.8.0-36-generic  as a minimum to pick it up. You need to add whatever other necessary linux 4.8 packages too.17:28
MrFixItsorry virtuosoj I meant linux-image-4.8.0-36-generic and the other related packages.17:30
MrFixItvirtuosoj, if you head in that direction just make sure you don't have any issues with new or older drivers... best to read the release notes first17:31
MrFixItnicomachus, I think you are probably right about that, I had seen they were encountering a few regressions17:31
naccvirtuosoj: the correct fix is to install the hwe pacakge17:32
naccvirtuosoj: note that this was (i believe) in the release notes17:32
iresfhello   i have installed apache2  , php 7 and mysql on ubuntu 16.04   but when i want to run a php file it returns source code and does not excute it    pleasehelp17:32
naccvirtuosoj: upgraders will not be auto-enrolled17:32
RNevillecan I use Ubuntu Live CD 16.05 to reset driver for video card to nouveau17:32
naccvirtuosoj: fresh installs will be auto-enrolled in hwe (if they install 16.04.2) aiui17:32
nacciresf: did you install libapache2-mod-php ?17:33
iresfnacc : yes17:33
RNevilleUbuntu Live CD 16.04/ Ubuntu Live CD 16.05**17:34
skyfallerhi folks, I'm sadly running Ubuntu 12.04, and my server seems to be under a DOS attack of some sort. I want to block specific IP addresses using iptables, but it's not working17:35
skyfallerI'm saying something like "sudo iptables -A INPUT -s 192.0.96.247 -j DROP"17:35
skyfallerbut then when I go "sudo iptables -L" I don't see that rule listed17:35
skyfallercan anyone help?17:36
virtuosojnacc: what's the easiest way for me to enroll?17:36
CrazySaneskyfaller: if it is a DOS, IP tables on the machine being DOS'ed isn't going to help too much17:36
CrazySaneskyfaller: Truly, you need to filter them upstream so the box never received the rogue packets in the first place.17:36
skyfallerhm, that didn't occur to me17:37
CrazySaneskyfaller: the box still has to deal with those packets when it receives them (even if it's blackholing them) so it's still going to DOS if there are enough of them.17:37
CrazySaneskyfaller: tho, IP Tables will mitigate a small DOS.17:38
skyfallerit has to be a small DOS, I'm hosting a handful of no-name sites, there's no reason for anyone to DOS me in the first place :P17:38
CrazySaneskyfaller: what makes you think you're being DOS'ed in the first place?17:38
orgasmixdepends. a DoS might target an application's weakness in the way it handles/replies to packets (i.e. leverage effect). in that case iptables will be useful17:39
naccvirtuosoj: looking one sec17:39
AlericI solved my issue...17:39
AlericThanks for the help.17:39
naccvirtuosoj: for X, xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04; for kernel, linux-image-generic-hwe-16.0417:40
CrazySaneorgasmix: that's what I'm referring to. If the reason the DOS is effective is because the network layer is at capacity, then IP tables won't help. If it's because the application layer can't handle the load, then IP tables will help.17:40
skyfallerCrazySane: well, this looks a lot like something that happened to me several months ago, my server slowed to a crawl, I tried rolling back to a known-good backup but the problem persisted.17:40
skyfallerCrazySane: Then I said sudo watch -d -n0 "netstat -atnp | grep ESTA" and saw a constant stream of weird traffic, so I blocked those IP addresses and then my server ran fine17:40
nacck1l: other regulars, we may want to make the above a FAQ (the 16.04.2 HWE packages)17:40
skyfallerCrazySane: again I see some weird traffic using that command, so I want to try taking the same steps I took last time, but this time it's not working and I don't know why17:41
skyfallerand it's really hard to do any diagnostic stuff because my server is at 100$17:41
skyfaller*100% CPU17:41
iresfi do not know why apache can not render php file17:41
CrazySanecan you do    netstat -atnp | grep ESTA | pastebinit17:41
iresfit only returns source code17:41
orgasmixCrazySane: Imagine an application layer badly-designed so that any 1B incoming packet triggers a 10B response. Surely a single attacker can cause the application to overload its own network. That's the leverage effect, and iptables will block that17:42
nacciresf: did you enable mod_php? did you specify that php files should be interpreted in the config?17:42
CrazySaneorgasmix: I think we're in agreement here.17:42
\9skyfaller: on an unrelated note, 12.04 only has 2 months of support left. you'll need to upgrade soon17:43
iresfnacc : which config file  ?17:43
CrazySaneskyfaller: can you do    netstat -atnp | grep ESTA | pastebinit17:43
NemesisDanyone know why when i do lsof i get lots of things with the "command" column of "foo" but lsof -c foo returns nothing. oddly enough, negating it lsof -c ^foo returns everything *but* the foos17:43
CrazySaneskyfaller: and give us the link. I want to see what addresses you're susp of.17:43
skyfallerCrazySane: ok, I'm trying, first I have to install pastebinit17:44
nacciresf: apache's for the site you are trying to load17:44
skyfaller\9: yes, I am sadly aware of this fact17:44
birkhoffchi17:45
virtuosojnacc: just install those with apt?17:45
CrazySaneWhen did patebinit become a standard install (if ever?) I'd never heard of it until I started volunteering here.. and it was already installed.. but some (older) installs don't have it by default17:45
iresfnacc  : i do not know how to config it   , if you have any tutorial please send me it17:45
naccvirtuosoj: yeah, that should be all you need17:45
skyfallerCrazySane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24014766/17:45
virtuosojnacc: ty!17:45
naccCrazySane: are you on a server? it's preinstalled there, iirc17:45
Waldo_SubWaldo17:46
Waldo_Sub#CollarSpace_Lobby17:46
skyfallerCrazySane: the sshd entries are me, the others I'm suspicious of17:46
nacciresf: apache configuration is sort of outside the context, there might be some docs in /usr/share/doc17:46
skyfallerCrazySane: nobody ever visits my websites, and if they do they visit it once, not every other second17:46
birkhoffchhhhhhhhh17:46
birkhoffclo;17:46
birkhoffclol17:46
CrazySaneskyfaller: line 2 & 3 are a network local to the box.17:46
skyfalleroh. I'm dumb17:47
skyfaller... wait, I'm on Linode. Why would other computers on the Linode network be pinging me constantly?17:47
CrazySaneskyfaller: line 5 is a datacenter for Amazon in Ireland.17:48
CrazySaneskyfaller: line 6 is Amazon again in Singapore17:48
iresfi have installed libapache2-mod-php7.0 but when i use  libapache2-mod-php7.0  it says it does not exist     i could not solve it  so far17:49
CrazySaneskyfaller: and 7 is Amazon in Brazil17:49
nacciresf: 'use libapache2-mod-php7.0'? use where, with what. Pastebin exact commands and output.17:49
CrazySaneskyfaller: You don't happen to host with Amazon do you?17:49
skyfallerCrazySane: no, I'm on Linode. http://linode.com/17:50
skyfallerCrazySane: someone in the Linode channel said they think the 192 address is an AUTOMATTIC address, not a local address17:52
CrazySaneskyfaller: that depends on your definition of "automatic"17:52
skyfallerCrazySane: https://myip.ms/view/ip_addresses/3221250048/192.0.96.0_192.0.96.25517:52
CrazySaneskyfaller: Ah! Doah! Right. XD17:53
skyfaller" That's the company basically behind WP, so you're probably seeing WP ping-backs or something."17:53
lesshasteis there a channel to discuss bittorrent clients?17:53
CrazySaneskyfaller: I agree. I read that IP too fast and thought it said "192.168"17:53
skyfallerunderstandable mistake :)17:54
genuine_is ubuntu going to release a cinnamon or is there a way to get cinammon on ubuntu?17:54
CrazySaneskyfaller: longshot guess here.. but perhaps Wordpress is hosted on Amazon's Cloud?17:55
skyfaller... not out of the realm of possibility. I guess I'd better go ask in their channel too17:55
CrazySaneskyfaller: But I can't see these few connections DOS'ing your service.17:55
nacc!info cinnamon | genuine_17:55
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Alericskyfaller: aren't those broadcasts? My ISP also used to be so stupid to pass broadcasts between clients - I could see the DHCP requests from my neighbors.17:57
CrazySanethanks17:57
genuine_nacc, thanks for the response, where do i find the package?17:57
naccgenii: thank you17:57
geniinp17:57
naccgenuine_: not sure i understand? it's in universe in all ubuntu 16.04+17:57
skyfallerAleric: I don't know enough about anything to respond to your suggestion :)17:57
nicomachusgenii: apt install cinnamon17:58
naccgenuine_: --^17:58
genuine_oh ok Thank you very much17:58
nicomachusthat's what I meant. sorry genii.17:58
genii:)17:58
nicomachusgo back to your coffee17:58
nicomachusor install cinnamon, see if I care.17:58
naccheh17:59
CrazySaneskyfaller: So where do we stand now?18:00
* nicomachus wonders if cinnamon even works on gentoo...18:00
skyfallerCrazySane: I'm not sure, my CPU is still at 100% and I can't do anything :P18:00
genuine_now that i installed it, how do i apply it?18:01
CrazySaneskyfaller: Is it the Apache process that is pegged?18:02
CrazyTuxhello, could anyone advise on the preferred option to update Ubuntu? Using Software updater or using sudo apt-get update/upgrade.18:02
nicomachusgenuine_: log out. then click the little ubuntu logo next to your username on the login screen, and select Cinnamon. Then log in.18:02
pavlosskyfaller, can you use 'top' and see which process is at 100%18:02
CrazySaneCrazyTux: They are the same18:02
genuine_ok thanks :D18:02
wildlanderubuntu 16.04.2 was released. yay!!!18:02
skyfalleryeah, it's all apache2 processes18:03
CrazyTuxok.18:03
iresfnacc :18:03
nacciresf: yes?18:03
CrazySaneskyfaller: Perhaps it would be better suited if you go to an Apache channel and get them to help you figure out why your apache install is losing its mind over a few connections.18:03
nacciresf: afaik, i asked a question, you haven't responded18:04
skyfaller... I'm already in 3 channels :( But here goes another one...18:04
iresfwhen i use sudo a2dismod php7.0   it says  : ERROR  : Module php7.0 does not exist18:04
CrazySaneskyfaller: sometimes too many opinions can muddy the waters. ;)18:04
a64Hello guys i wanna fix my photos format on linux is there any application to do it ?18:04
CrazySanea64: Can you be more specific: "fix my photos format"18:05
nacc!who | iresf: so i know you're responding to me.18:05
ubottuiresf: so i know you're responding to me.: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)18:05
CrazySanea64: Do you mean it's currently a JPG and you want it to be a PNG instead?18:05
nacciresf: i'm not sure how that's possible if you've installed the packages18:05
CrazyTuxwhich is the most comprehensive archiving application available for Ubuntu? the one that support most of the compression formats.18:06
a64CrazySane, i got around 700 images without any extensions i wanna  add extension18:06
a64yup18:06
nacca64: extensions don't mean anything on linux18:06
nacca64: so use `rename`18:06
CrazySanea64: Check this out: https://askubuntu.com/questions/485525/how-to-mass-add-file-extension18:06
nacca64: if you mean you wan to convert them, then use `convert` probably18:06
naccCrazySane: tar? with appropriate flags18:07
a64nacc, i know mate but when i transfer my photos to my phone its wont view18:07
nacca64: sounds like a bug in the phone :)18:07
CrazySanenacc: Sorry - similar names @ CrazyTux18:07
nicomachuswhat format are the images?18:07
naccCrazySane: argh, sorry!18:07
nicomachusa64 18:07
pavlosskyfaller, try strace the process, ... strace -vv -s 2048 -o /tmp/httpd.trace -p <pid>18:07
naccCrazyTux: tar? with appropriate flags18:07
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a64.jpg dunno why its not working damn on iphone  :@18:08
CrazyTuxok18:08
BluesKajsorry nicomachus ..was AFK  for a while18:08
CrzySanepavlos: thanks for stepping in to help with Apache, not my forte.18:09
pavlosCrzySane, not my forte either, but I look at pages and suggest18:10
CrzySanepavlos: at least you had an idea where to start.18:10
skyfaller... what's the PID? :(18:10
CrzySaneskyfaller: run top, the PID is listed in the first column18:11
skyfallerCrzySane: oh right, thanks :)18:11
ginorciao18:12
skyfallerok, I think I'm doing the strace now, why am I doing this?18:12
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skyfallerpavlos: I don't think strace will help here, it's a zillion different apache2 processes, there's a new one every second18:14
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skyfallerhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24014985/18:15
pavlosCrzySane, if you look at /tmp/httpd.trace, there should be syscalls all over ...18:17
pavlosskyfaller, , if you look at /tmp/httpd.trace, there should be syscalls all over ...18:17
skyfallerI can't get iptables to drop an address :(  http://pastebin.com/WGsUwgsn18:17
skyfallerpavlos: hm, you appear to be right. it looks like a bunch of requests to one specific website I host18:20
pavlosskyfaller, maybe it cannot reach that website ...18:21
kur1jcan someone explain to me how the Ubuntu team is making the cloudimg so small? specifically xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img 308M18:21
skyfallerwouldn't be surprising, since my CPU is maxed out18:21
kur1jI'm trying to create an image manually and I am using the minimal ubuntu installer and without selecting anything its 1.9GB for me18:22
skyfallerpavlos: basically, nothing else matters until I get my CPU down to a reasonable level, that's all I need help with at this moment18:22
skyfallerpavlos: here's a paste of /tmp/httpd.trace ... just scroll past all of the empty space. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015006/18:24
pavlosskyfaller, ps -ef | grep apache2 should list all the pid's, there should be a master pid and slave apache2 pid's under that master. Can you kill some of the slave pid's?18:24
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skyfallerpavlos: ok, how do I kill them? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015031/18:25
iresfwhen i use   sudo a2enmod php7.0  it says : ERROR  Module php7.0 does not exist  !18:25
geigerCounterHi there! I'm running an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and I'm having a hell of a time configuring exim4. I set it up to use MySQL for authentication and Dovecot for imap and pop3 according to a guide I found. Now I'm trying to secure it with TLS and I think I broke it. Exim4 times out on external connections and testing it locally with telnet, it won't let me actually run starttls anyway.18:26
pavlosskyfaller, parent is 4163 ... kill them one at a time, kill 21524 and so on18:27
geigerCounterPlease assist.18:27
skyfallerpavlos: no literally what command do I use :/18:27
AionNL|2kill <pid>18:27
pavlosskyfaller, kill 2152418:28
a64CrzySane, Thanks a lot mate you saved my life18:28
CrzySanea64: Np. Google warrior at your service.18:28
pavlosskyfaller, kill 2438118:28
skyfallerpavlos: OK, I'll try it, but you realize several new processes are being created every second18:28
AionNL|2yes skyfaller, but if you kill the parent18:28
b-yeezigeigerCounter, please use paste.ubuntu.com and put your config18:28
AionNL|2no new babies will be born :P18:28
mynameishey18:29
geigerCounterb-yeezi: I'm using the split config and also there's potentially some sensitive information. How do I get the lump sum of my exim config into a paste?18:29
mynameisI'm on Ubuntu 14.04.5 with default radeon gpu driver how do I set higher resolution than 1024x768?18:29
AionNL|2quick stupid remark on reverse dns zone : when range was 192.168.1.x the reverse arpa would be 1.168.192.app right ?18:29
skyfallerohhhh, that was easy... I guess I just killed apache218:29
RNevilleneed help uninstalling a proprietary Nvidia driver, my computer has black screen on boot18:29
AionNL|2yes skyfaller :)18:29
AionNL|2now you look at the logs and see what goes wrong18:30
skyfallerok, now my CPU is not at 100%, what do I do?18:30
pavlosskyfaller, there is a config directive how many slave processes to be spawned in apache2, cant remember the exact directive (and I dont have apache2 running to test18:30
a64CrzySane, yeah but my problem is english is my second language :( and newbie in linux18:30
b-yeezigeigerCounter, definitely scrub sensitive data first. You can leave the configs in separate pastes18:31
skyfallercan anyone tell me why I couldn't drop specific IP addresses? That's been the most frustrating part to me. I know where the traffic is coming from, if I just block it that would be more useful than taking my websites offline18:31
geigerCounterb-yeezi: Alright, one moment...18:32
AionNL|2@skyfaller , how did you try to drop the ip?18:32
geigerCounterb-yeezi: Question, can I paste the "config.autogenerated" located in /var/lib/exim4 ? That contains all of the configuration patched together in one file, right?18:34
mynameisI can't set a higher resolution than 1024x768 please help! I have tried installing different video drivers, nothing works for me18:34
b-yeeziThat would be a good start at least.18:35
geigerCounterAlright. Give me a sec to scrub the sensitive data then.18:35
b-yeeziAlso, what TLS version are you using? Is it a question of handshake being refused?18:36
geigerCounterI'm not sure.18:37
nicomachusmynameis: can you pastebin the output of `xrandr` and link here please?18:38
geigerCounterIt works for Dovecot on the IMAP side of things, but not exim4 on the SMTP side. I'm using self-signed certs for now. ( Going to switch over to letsencrypt certs when I get it to connect successfully. )18:38
* xrandr barfs for mynameis so he can put it in the pastebin :P18:38
mynameisnicomachus sure one moment18:38
nicomachus0_o18:38
b-yeeziAre you allowing the self-signed cert to be accepted in telnet?18:39
Dreamanmynameis you pc parameters18:39
geigerCounterb-yeezi: Uhmm... I'm not sure, tbh.18:39
mynameisDreaman radeon r7 250x ubuntu 14.04.518:39
xrandrnicomachus: you wanted me to output something for him :P18:40
RNevillecan't get past grub screen now that I have loaded a Nvidia proprietary driver18:40
mynameisnicomachus here is the output http://pastebin.com/Uv5Y71MV18:40
mynameisxrandr haha18:40
nicomachusDreaman: again, please, stop. you are giving bad advice. We don't need PC parameters, we need xrandr- output18:40
RNevilletried to edit grub menu with this command : nomodeset (with no success)18:40
mynameishey xrandr could you give me the output? :)18:40
Dreamannicomachus ok18:40
b-yeezigeigerCounter, that could be the problem. For security, self-signed certs are rejected in a lot of protocols by default18:40
nicomachusmaximum 16384 x 16384  0_o18:40
nicomachuswhat18:40
mynameisxrandr I can provide you with parameters if needed18:40
geigerCounterOh hmm.18:41
mynameiswhat18:41
RNevillefound this command to edit grub menu : nouveau.modeset=018:41
xrandrmynameis: that requires me to do something.18:41
nicomachusmynameis: is this an external monitor or laptop or what?18:41
CrzySane!enter | RNeville18:41
ubottuRNeville: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.18:41
* xrandr is lazy....built by lazy developers18:41
mynameisit's a desktop pc connected to a normal monitor via dvi18:41
pavlosskyfaller, look at /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, MaxKeepAliveRequests and KeepAliveRequests18:41
nicomachusxrandr: please either change your name or stop making jokes every time the package is mentioned.18:41
geigerCounterb-yeezi: But why is the connection timing out when trying to connect remotely?18:41
mynameislol18:42
nicomachusmynameis: ok. the maximum value there is VERY weird. I've never seen it show something so outrageous like that...18:42
mynameiswow18:42
Dreamanmynameis  i use 4k18:42
RNevillenot sure if last command enables nouveau driver or disable nouveau drive, i.e, : nouveau.modeset=018:42
geigerCounterb-yeezi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/2401511018:42
Dreamanmy monitors systems work18:42
nicomachus!nomodeset | RNeville18:43
ubottuRNeville: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:43
Xundreshi, how can i solve problems with compyling a packet? I receive always some error when I try ./cofngure18:43
mynameisnicomachus I guess it's the maximum value of the variable or something18:43
xrandrRNeville: 0 = disable, 1 = enable.18:43
Dreamannicomachus  tel you how you to work18:43
RNevillethx xrandr18:43
Dreamanto meny lames in the chanel18:43
naccDreaman: you're not listening. Please stop. You are not contributing anything to the discussion.18:43
nicomachusmynameis: the maximum value should be something real, like 1024x768 or something18:43
nicomachusor 1280x1094 or whatever that one is.18:44
mynameisnicomachus yeah, I have seen a lot of errors in syslog related to my gpu yesterday18:44
xrandrnicomachus: if he has the monitors either extending or duplicating themselves, won't he get a larger display output?18:44
b-yeezigeigerCounter, OK I will take a look. I'm, not guaranteeing that I will be able to figure it out. I'm not that versed in this, tbh, but I have have to troubleshoot mail servers before18:44
CrzySaneXundres: do you mean compiling a package?18:44
mynameisnicomachus my card can run 4k I think that might be the max resolution18:45
geigerCounterWell any help is appreciated at this point18:45
mynameisit can't run 16k though :O18:45
RNevillenicomachus, tried to follow direction at : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132   with no success18:45
CrzySaneXundres: like, compiling an application from source?18:45
RNevilletried adding "nomodeset" in grub menu18:45
RNevillewith no success18:45
Xundresyes18:45
XundresCrzySane: yes, any18:45
Xundresfor example18:46
nicomachusxrandr: yes, but not 16384 x 1638418:46
XundresGEOCLUE18:46
CrzySaneXundres: can you do    ./configure | pastebinit18:46
naccXundres: it depends on the error, of course. Compiling from source generically is not something  necessarily supported here18:46
Xundresyes18:46
naccXundres: also, why are you compiling from source, can you not use the ubuntu packages?18:46
xrandrmynameis: how many monitors do you have attached?18:46
mynameisxrandr just one currently running at 1024x768 because the system won't let me change it to anything higher18:47
xrandrmynameis: I missed the details earlier. What video card, and what ports are on the video card?18:47
b-yeezigeigerCounter, I'm assuming you used these docs: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-encrypted_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html18:47
XundresCrzySane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015125/18:47
nicomachusmynameis: you wanted 1280x1024, right?18:48
mynameisxrandr radeon r7 250x, it has dvi, hdmi and display port and the issue is that I can't set any higher resolution18:48
mynameisnicomachus yes, correct18:48
xrandrmynameis: got a VGA port? Does your monitor have one of those too? If so, try that first. Might have a bad port or something18:48
geigerCounterb-yeezi: yep18:48
nicomachusmynameis: try setting it manually with `xrandr --output DVI0 --mode 1280x1024`18:49
CrzySaneXundres: Perhaps someone else here might know why that doesn't appear to be the entire output of the script.18:49
mynameisxrandr my monitor only has d-sub and it's connected to my card's dvi with an adapter, the card doesn't have d-sub18:49
mynameisok18:49
geigerCounterAnd to the best of my ability to understand them, I followed them.18:49
b-yeeziYeah, It's pretty well-written18:49
mynameisnicomachus warning: output DVI0 not found; ignoring18:50
nicomachusugh18:50
nicomachusDVI-018:50
nicomachussorry18:50
xrandrmynameis: i hate to even ask this.....but did it work on Windows (if you had windows installed) ?18:50
mynameisnicomachus xrandr: cannot find mode 1280x102418:50
geigerCounterb-yeezi: By the way, according to aptitde I am using version gnutls version 2.12.23-12ubuntu18:50
b-yeeziso that's not th problem18:51
CrzySaneXundres: also, perhaps someone else could recommend a better channel to ask source-building questions than this one, since we target the use of ubuntu and its packages.18:51
mynameisxrandr yeah I had Widonws previously and it worked with no issues18:51
xrandrmynameis: has it ever worked in ubuntu?18:51
mynameisxranrd yes, on onlder versions of Ubuntu with fglrx amd driver that isn't supported anymore18:52
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Xundresok18:52
mynameisxrandr it was on 14.04 actually18:53
b-yeezigeigerCounter, have you tried trying to connect while tailf-ing the log and error files?18:53
mynameismy issue is that AMD dropped support for their driver and started developing a new one which doesn't work with my graphics card18:54
naccXundres: did you use pastebinit or c&p?18:54
geigerCounterb-yeezi: I have.18:54
Dreamanmynameis  use free driver18:55
CrazySanemynameis: xrandr: while I don't have any specific input to the solution, I will tell you that I'm running a GF108 [GeForce GT 730] and I had a ton of problems in previous versions of Ubuntu. 15.10 fixed them though.18:55
geigerCounterThey didn't say much useful last I checked.18:55
mynameisso I can only use the open source driver with max resolution of 1024x768 or somehow try to install fglrx driver on 14.0418:55
nicomachusCrazySane: Nvidea vs. AMD. big difference.18:55
xrandrmynameis: can you try and find the driver that worked for 16.04 and install it? I know it isn't the best idea, but if it works....18:55
mynameisCrazySane I think this problem is specific to AMD and their poor support for linux18:55
CrazySanenicomachus: my bad, I thought they said it was an nVidia card. Must have read someone else say that.18:56
Dreamanmy nvidia 940 4gb ram vddr5 use 4k18:56
Dreaman:)18:56
nicomachusDreaman: please leave.18:56
xrandrmynameis: i do think that linux is  more partial to nVidia than AMD18:56
CrazySaneDreaman: :)  My nVidia card is flying right along now. XD18:56
Dreamannicomachus  no lame18:56
kur1jI'm trying to create an image for Openstack manually and I am using the minimal ubuntu installer and without selecting anything during installation its 1.9GB for me. I'm using QCOW2 and I have no idea how to make the installation smaller.18:56
kur1jany suggestions18:56
mynameisxrandr the driver that worked works only on 14.04 and only if you downgrade xorg which I did and I installed it but then my system broke :/18:57
nicomachuswait wait wait18:57
nacckur1j: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server or an openstack channel18:57
nicomachusyou did WHAT? mynameis18:57
CrazySanemynameis: why are you still on 14.04 now anyway?18:57
nicomachuswhat driver was that? and you DOWNGRADED xorg?18:57
mynameisCrazySane yes I am18:57
naccCrazySane: 14.04 is fully supported still18:57
* CrazySane chuckles at nicomachus 18:57
kur1jnacc: ok thanks.18:57
xrandrok, everyone relax18:58
CrazySanenacc: I know, but I'm curious as to why they are staying back there.18:58
mynameisnicomacus after 16.10 and 16.04 failed me and amdgpu driver did too I installed 14.04.5 but in order to install fglrx on that I had to downgrade xorg to lower version18:58
geigerCounterb-yeezi: Mainly, what I discover from reading the logs is that there's a Russian spambot chain trying to use my smtp and exim is quite correctly not letting it. I do wish to fix this, but one step at a time...18:58
* nicomachus facepalms and goes to lunch18:58
CrazySanemynameis: ah. You've already been down the 16.x trail.18:58
xrandrmynameis: what version of ubuntu are you currently running now, and what version of xorg are you running?18:58
mynameisCrazySane yeah18:58
mynameisxrandr I'm running 14.04.5 and xorg - how do I check that?18:59
mynameisI'm on a fresh install of 14.04.5 now with default drivers and default xorg19:00
CrazySanemynameis: dpkg -s org19:00
xrandrmynameis: in a terminal, type X -version19:00
CrazySaneor that ^19:00
naccCrazySane: right, sorry, they've been here for a while, and have said that a few times19:00
mynameisit's xorg 1.7.719:01
gp5stis there a recommended way to install from the iso to the (not currently in-used) harddrive without rebooting and using some form of external media?19:01
CrazySanenacc: Sorry for not scrolling back. Jumping on the train mid-go.19:01
naccCrazySane: not a problem19:01
xrandrmynameis: ok. What happened with the later versions of ubuntu? No display at all?19:01
xrandrmynameis: sorry, just playing catch up here19:02
mynameisxrandr with all versions of Ubuntu the default driver displays only 1024x768, amdgpu-pro driver with 16.04 and 16.10 doesn't change anything and when I tried it with older kernel I couldn't boot19:03
CrazySanegp5st: I don't quite understand your question, could you try rephrasing it?19:03
xrandrmynameis: and here's another question. During the install of ANY of those versions, did the display look right?19:03
b-yeezigeigerCounter, I don't see anything in this config that is that crazy. The things I would look at in your split configs is smtp_receive_timeout and use_gnu_tls19:04
xrandrAgain, talking about while in the ubuntu installer19:04
b-yeezisorry use_gnutls19:04
geigerCounterb-yeezi: Okay, where would those be in the split config?19:04
mynameisxrandr it looked right, but I can't tell if the resolution was higher than 1024x76819:04
gp5stCrazySane: I have a new disk that I would like to install ubuntu on in a prep to move this computer to it. Is there a recommended way to install ubuntu to that disk without having to use a cd or usb key to run the installer on a reboot19:04
Dreamanhttp://prikachi.com/images.php?images/416/9044416O.png   mynameis  nicomachus see lame19:05
Dreaman:)19:05
CrazySanegp5st: Can you shut down the computer, install the new disk, install Ubuntu, remove the disk and reinstall the old one?19:05
xrandrmynameis: if it looked right it probably was right. I had that problem several years ago when I installed ubuntu 10 and had a Raedon card19:05
xrandrRadeon*19:05
NpcoAnyone here run Ubuntu from a sd card? to what affect?19:05
xrandrmynameis: that means that there is some kind of driver that does work properly with your card19:06
gp5stCrazySane: that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid doing, because I'd need a CD or usb key (and a reboot)19:06
nicomachusNpco: I have used SD cards to install Ubuntu on raspberry pi's19:06
gp5stthere's `debootstrap` but I was wondering if there was anything newer/more automated19:06
nicomachusNpco: works fine.19:06
mynameisxrandr I hope there is, but all of them don't seem to work19:07
CrazySanegp5st: I'm not aware of a way to acomplish what you're looking to do, maybe someone else will be able to help you.19:07
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mynameisxrandr are you using an amd card at the moment?19:07
gp5stCrazySane: like I said, there's debootstrap, but I was hoping to find something a little less manual19:07
xrandrmynameis: here's a thought. If you still have the install cd or dvd... boot into it. Instead of choosing Install Ubuntu, choose Try Ubuntu. Then go to a terminal and do a lsmod  and paste it into pastebin or someplace you can look at it later. Reboot out of the live cd and back to your desktop, and run the same command19:07
NpcoNicomachus, I am running a Hp stream with a 32g built in flash drive, was thinking of running another os from a sd card, does it last a while?19:07
xrandrmynameis: nope, I use nVidia   *puffs out chest proudly*19:08
nicomachusNpco: I can't speak to long-term use, sorry19:08
mynameisxrandr what will that help me achieve?19:08
xrandrmynameis: oh, and in the live cd, when you use Try Ubuntu,  go to the display settings19:08
nicomachusmynameis: I'm running 16.04 with a Radeon HD 6450 and the radeon driver.19:08
xrandrsee what resolution it reports19:08
nicomachuson one machine.19:08
Npcogoogle, *puffs out chest proudly*19:08
mynameisxrandr I tried changing the resolution in live cd it was the same one as it is now19:09
xrandrmynameis: ok, that rules out a thing or two19:09
mynameisnicomachus the last command for xrandr for switching the resolution failed saying that the mode wasn't correct do you know what should be the correct mode?19:09
mynameisxrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x102419:10
mynameisxrandr: cannot find mode 1280x102419:10
b-yeezigeigerCounter, I have to look it up19:10
xrandrmynameis: what monitor do you have, and what is it's highest display setting? just curious19:10
mynameisxrandr it's highest resolution is 1280x102419:11
b-yeeziI thing tlsoptions for use_gnutls19:11
xrandrnicomachus: is there a generic xorg driver he could use instead of the radeon one? just to troubleshoot?19:11
Dreamanmynameis  my card hdmi but lg monitor is dvi and full hd work 4k use19:11
mynameisDreaman ok19:11
geigerCounterb-yeezi: Alright. I'm grepping the config files19:12
b-yeeziAlso, I wish telnet had a verbose mode so you can see more info about the connection19:13
geigerCounterYeah, me too.19:13
geigerCounterb-yeezi: There's no "gnu" found in any of the conf.d files.19:14
b-yeeziThe reason I wonder about the timeout is if the spambot is hammering on your smtp server, it may be taking longer to negotiate a handshake19:16
mynameisOMG guys19:16
mynameisI did this http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution#37794419:16
mynameisand it set my resolution to what I wanted to19:16
geigerCounterThat's a good point.19:17
mynameiswill this setting stay after reboot?19:17
geniimynameis: No. You need to put the commands into /etc/rc.local19:18
mynameisthanks everyone for help19:19
Dreamanjust use free driver19:19
Dreamanuse19:19
mynameisI would at least spent another day reinstalling different drivers if it wasn't for you guys19:20
geigerCounterb-yeezi: rfc1413_query_timeout ?19:20
Dreamanmynameis  my card is old 4630 i use ubuntu 17.04 alpha 219:20
Dreamanmy resolution work19:20
b-yeezigeigerCounter, maybe. Before that, checkout http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-encrypted_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html19:22
b-yeezifind timeout in the page. Maybe this is the problem19:23
Wulfhi19:26
geigerCounterb-yeezi: The only thing about timeouts on that page has to do with the tls_dhparam, which afaik I didn't set.19:27
b-yeeziWell, consider me stumped. Sorry19:28
geigerCounterYeah.19:29
WulfI've got an Ubuntu 14.04 server with package dnsutils installed in version 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9ubuntu0.5; should the current (security) version not be 0.13?19:29
geigerCounterWhat is the dhparam anyway?19:29
RubiksmomoCould someone please explain why IRC whois shows my actual hostname/IP when I'm connected to VPN?19:30
WulfRubiksmomo: check your routes19:30
nacc!info dnsutils trusty19:30
ubottudnsutils (source: bind9): Clients provided with BIND. In component main, is standard. Version 1:9.9.5.dfsg-3ubuntu0.13 (trusty), package size 90 kB, installed size 356 kB19:30
naccWulf: yes, it should be (via -updates and -security)19:30
mynameisRubiksmomo did you set your VPN settings in your system?19:30
xrandrsorry mynameis for disappearing. I am at work and was on a long support call19:31
linewbhello, would anyone be interested in helping me with a networking issue?  2 NICs, static routes or policy based issues19:31
Wulfnacc: so where could the installed version come from?19:31
Rubiksmomomynameis, Yeah, it shows a lock at the WiFi icon on top right corner19:31
ikonialinewb: just state the problem and people will help if they can / want to19:31
mynameisxrandr no problem I managed to fix the issue with these commands http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution#37794419:31
xrandrmynameis: great!19:31
linewbty ikonia19:31
CrazySane!ask | linewb19:31
ubottulinewb: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:31
mynameisxrandr thanks for your help :)19:31
RubiksmomoWulf, How do I "check my routes"?19:32
xrandr!patience xrandr19:32
naccWulf: i mean that version probably also exist(ed) -- so maybe just not updated correctly (`apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade`)?19:32
mynameisand nico's help too :)19:32
WulfRubiksmomo: ip route19:32
b-yeezigeigerCounter, diffy-helman prime number selection19:32
xrandrmynameis: you're welcome, but thank nicomachus. He did a lot more than I did19:32
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CrazySanexrandr: to use that command, you need to pipe the target. eg !patience | xrandr19:32
mynameisyeah thanks nicomachus :)19:32
geigerCounterb-yeezi: Do I need to set that stuff?19:32
Wulfnacc: tried it. btw, my version is "dfsg-9", the other is "dfsg-3"19:32
xrandr!patience |xrandr19:32
ubottuxrandr, please see my private message19:32
b-yeezis/diffy/diffie/19:32
naccWulf: you're not on trusty, that's vivid19:33
naccWulf: or you installed a vivid package on trusty19:33
naccWulf: either way, bad choices (not upgrading or mixing releases)19:33
Wulfnacc: It's trusty and has always been trusty.19:34
RubiksmomoHow do can I route all my traffic through VPN? IRC doesn't seem to use my VPN. https://ghostbin.com/paste/upajc19:34
naccWulf: that dnsutils is vivid's publish19:35
CrazySaneRubiksmomo: that depends on your client. Might want to look for a channel dedicated to your client.19:35
naccWulf: `apt-cache policy dnsutils` in a pastebin19:35
mynameisRubiksmono it might not be what you want but I think you can set in the router to use VPN19:35
CrazySaneRubiksmomo: wait. maybe not, if you're trying to route ALL your traffic through the vpn.19:35
Wulfnacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015418/19:36
naccWulf: you installed a .deb by hand.19:36
naccWulf: as I said, mixing releases.19:36
Wulfnacc: I can't remember having done that19:37
b-yeezigeigerCounter, I'm no expert on this, but I know that if it's not done correctly, it can mess things up. According to the docs, it is hardcoded with a default if you don't change it.19:37
naccWulf: not really the point :)19:37
linewbhave 2 subnets, 10.2.1.0 and 10.2.2.0, routing table shows default gateway as 10.2.1.1(correct one fwiw), each nic with correct table entries and looks correct AFAIK.  I can ping either gateway at 10.2.1.1 or 10.2.2.1.  traceroute doesn't follow correct route.  I've tried following https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Two_Default_Gateways_on_One_System to the letter but still can't ping hosts on other net19:37
linewbs(e.g. 10.2.3.0/24)....  help :)19:37
Rubiksmomomynameis, I don't think my Cisco EPC3825 supports trust.zone VPN19:37
b-yeezigeigerCounter, I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase. You may want to ping the ubuntu-server channel. They are better at this type of thing19:38
ikonialinewb: you shouldn't have two default gateways19:38
mynameisRubiksmomo maybe you should check the settings to be sure19:38
geigerCounterb-yeezi: Hmm. Well I don't think it's the dhparams anyway. When I use telnet to access smtp locally, it doesn't time out.19:38
geigerCounterAh, yeah.19:38
geigerCounterThanks19:38
Wulfnacc: hmm.. wth19:38
linewbikonia, there's only 1 default reported by route -n19:39
Rubiksmomomynameis, I've tried, couldn't figure it out. There are some VPN related settings, but they didn't make much sense.19:39
Wulfnacc: perhaps someone messed up19:39
ikonialinewb: then why do you keep saying "ping either gateway" that suggests there is more than one19:39
mynameisRubiksmomo maybe your router's manual could help?19:39
naccWulf: can't say, it's clear from that output that a .deb was installed manually outside of the system packages. I would verify them all, if you really don't know.19:39
linewbgateway meaning upstream switch port19:40
linewbeach nic connected to different switches, would that mean multiple gateways for separate packets>19:40
linewb?19:40
ikonialinewb: no it wouldn't19:41
ikoniathat just means two network interfaces19:41
CrazySanelinewb: The "gateway" will receive any packets the computer doesn't have a route for in it's tables. Otherwise, the computer will route the traffic to the NIC that is assigned to the route that matches the traffic.19:42
Wulfnacc: is there a command that checks all installed packages if they are from the correct distro?19:42
CrazySaneits*19:42
naccWulf: i'm not sure, maybe something like debsums19:43
CrazySaneWulf: nacc: you might check Ubuntu's Installed Software in the package manager gui. I think it says something about where they are from in there (whether from repo or which etc.) Lemme check.19:45
Wulfwhat gui? :)19:46
naccCrazySane: right, we've already verified this pkg is not from apt (.deb installation). THe question is how to find any others19:46
CrazySaneAh. cli only? XD19:46
CrazySanenacc: I saw that - I was trying to generate a listing of packages that are installed external to the repos.19:47
naccit's possible you can ask for apt or apt-cache to search by source, i can't recall19:48
linewbwith or without static routes or policy routing, any suggestions as to why I cannot reach a host in another subnet with just 1 default gateway?  e.g. sitting on the multi nic box(nic1: 10.2.1.10, nic2: 10.2.2.11) not able to get(ssh) to a host in 10.2.3.xx.19:48
OerHekssynaptic can filter that easy19:48
naccOerHeks: good point19:48
ikonialinewb: what is the ip of the host you are trying to reach19:48
smallfoot-Anyone have DNS problems with zesty?19:49
WulfOerHeks: can you tell me how?19:49
ikoniasmallfoot-: why don't you just specifcy YOUR problem19:49
linewb10.2.3.1219:49
Wulfoh wait, synaptic is GUI19:49
naccsmallfoot-: also, zesty is #ubuntu+1 please19:49
ikonialinewb: so that shouldn't need a gateway19:50
smallfoot-ikonia, DNS worked great til today. Then I updated some packages, and now DNS resolves google.com but not youtube.com and other domains19:50
ikonialinewb: that should just go out of the card that is 10.2.0.0 - assuming the mask is set correctly19:50
OerHeksWulf, see the left panel > origin , and then click in the main window 's' to see all green installed packages19:50
OerHeksor write a custom filter19:50
linewbmask is /2319:50
ikonialinewb: so is that address in the same subnet as the ethernet card 10.2.x.x19:50
CrazySane!ask | smallfoot-19:51
ubottusmallfoot-: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:51
linewbno19:51
ikonialinewb: then how do you expect it to get there ?19:51
linewbgateway?19:51
ikonialinewb: what gateway19:51
linewb10.2.1.1 (default gw)19:51
ikonialinewb: is the default gateway setup to route to 10.2.2.319:52
ikoniasorry 10.2.3.x19:52
CrazySanelinewb: can any other hosts on the first network route to the second?19:52
linewbmy guess is upstream routing would understand packets destined for 10.2.3.x would hand off to correct switchport19:52
linewbCrazySane, yes...that's maybe what is most troubling about this problem19:53
ikonialinewb: you can't just assume gateways know how to route19:53
linewbbut the other hosts are not multi-nic19:53
ikonialinewb: you have 2 nics - both on serperate networks, you want to route to a THIRD network19:53
ikonialinewb: you're just hoping the default gateway for network one knows how to route the third network19:54
CrazySaneikonia: Do we have a traceroute on this yet?19:54
linewbikonia, since other hosts on the same nets can get packets to the proper destination, should I assume this host would too?19:54
ikonialinewb: you need to know that the default route has a route to that network19:54
ikonialinewb: are they using the same default gateway as this ?19:54
linewbyes19:54
ikonialinewb: so if you send a packet to the third network, does it get sent to the default gateway19:55
linewblemme tracert19:55
ikoniatracert is not a linux command19:55
linewb(lazy fingers)19:55
* CrazySane chuckles19:55
linewbtraceroute goes out public network and times out after19:56
ikonia"public network" ???19:57
CrazySanelinewb: Is the "public network" the same gateway?19:57
ikonianeither of the addresses you gave are public networks19:57
linewbwell...19:57
linewbI need to not put IPs in here...19:57
ikonialinewb: can you please be specific19:57
ikoniathen you're giving us false information19:57
linewbso the traceroute goes out 1 IP( which is routed on a public network...) and hits some upstream switches but doesn't come back.  It should go out the other nic/IP but it isn't.19:59
ikonialinewb: thats not an ubuntu problem19:59
ikoniathats your network problem19:59
linewbbut other hosts on the same network route without issue20:00
ikoniathe only issue you may have is that you have allocated the default gateway to the wrong interface20:00
linewbI should say packets get routed correctly20:00
ikoniabut as you are providing false IP information it's hard to tell20:00
linewbikonia, i agree...i'd rather not post real IPs in here...20:00
ikoniathats your choice, but we won't be able to help you with your routing,20:01
linewbunderstandable20:01
stickyrice1you have 2 nics?20:01
ikoniabut that is the only ubuntu issue you can have, that your default gateway is on the wrong address, that is the only way it would go out of the wrong interface20:01
CrazySanelinewb: we already know you're at ohio state. The IPs you're using aren't secret.20:01
linewbCrazySane, true20:01
linewbstickyrice1, yes if that question was for me20:02
stickyrice1sorry late to the conversation, can you recap it20:02
Wulfnacc, OerHeks: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | while read pkg; do apt-get download --print-uris $pkg; done > /dev/null20:03
linewbsure, one moment20:03
Wulftakes a while to run, but appears to work20:03
linewbCrazySane, ikonia I figured that the idea was still the same(2 IPs, 2 nics), odd routing could be looked at generically enough20:03
linewbI'll try to clear it up a bit20:04
naccWulf: makes sense20:04
ikonialinewb: it can be generic, but the info you are giving us is quite false20:04
naccWulf: did you have others?20:04
atyzCan anyone give me some advice on a good webcam that would be compatible?20:04
Wulfnacc: I figure about 30 packages20:04
ikoniaeg: you posted 2 private subnets within the same broad subnet, thats very different to one private and one public that are not related at all20:04
Wulfjust how did that happen...20:05
linewbconsider that one network is 10.2.45.x and the other is publicly routed at 128.146.45.x.  128.146.45.85 is the public NICs IP, netmask is /24.  10.2.45.85 is the private NIC, /23 is the netmask.  When default gw is set to 128.146.45.1 I can get into the box like normal.  From the box itself, I can then ping other nets(e.g. 10.2.46.1, 10.2.47.1, etc).  But I cannot get past 10.2.47.1 to a host 10.2.47.12.20:09
linewb   20:09
yakizaHello everyone i have  just installed ubuntu  in my new pc  and i have a problem with my graphics card i have try  installed the same proprietary drivers as in my old pc the 340.101 and when i install those when i restart my pc  , my pc doesnt work it aske me to add the decrypt code but when i type nothing is showing  in the screeen my mouse is not20:10
yakiza htere its like the whole system is stuck any help?20:10
ikonialinewb: pastebin your routing table please, lets look at what you actually have20:10
Wulfnacc: thanks for figuring out that my packages are from wrong release20:10
CrazySanelinewb: Also, paste the traceroute to pastebin please.20:10
linewblet me back out some changes and get back to you20:11
CrazySaneI'm about to leave the office (today is my wife's birthday!) but you're in good hands with ikonia. (good luck!)20:12
linewbThanks CrazySane20:12
stickyrice1what device is 10.2.47.1?20:13
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linewbswitch20:13
stickyrice1l2 or l3?20:13
linewb320:14
stickyrice1that device pings .12 fine?20:14
linewbyes20:14
naccWulf: np, gl fixing it up!20:15
stickyrice1im sure someone (ikonia) has asked but do you have static routes in place for these 10. networks?20:16
Wulfnacc: is fixed.20:17
linewbstickyrice1, I've tried to set static routes at the host level.20:18
Guest99551with 2 nics like ikonia has said you will need static routes20:19
linewbhttp://pastebin.com/JpQ285F320:24
linewbforgot this part on the pastbin...little spam incoming20:26
linewb[root@vm3sc ~]# traceroute 10.2.123.620:26
linewbtraceroute to 10.2.123.6 (10.2.123.6), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets20:26
linewb 1  hop1.test.ohio-state.edu (128.146.45.1)  0.404 ms  0.384 ms  0.368 ms20:26
linewb 2  se4-vl870.net.ohio-state.edu (140.254.68.65)  1.669 ms  1.345 ms  1.767 ms20:26
linewb 3  socc4-forg2-4.net.ohio-state.edu (164.107.8.117)  1.627 ms  1.684 ms  1.618 ms20:26
elkypastebins like paste.ubuntu.com are a better idea linewb :)20:27
ppfso what is it you want  to achieve?20:27
ppftraceroute looks good20:27
linewbppf, being able to ssh to hosts inside of private nets without being routed externall20:28
stickyrice1the trace to the oustide is always fine right?20:28
linewbyes20:28
stickyrice1what is the 10.2.45.0/23 network directly connected to?20:29
linewbif I'm understanding you, switchfabric20:30
linewbgear20:30
linewbthere are some other leaf switches with nets on them20:30
ikonialinewb: you're not actually making sense here20:31
ikonialinewb: please pastebin your routing table20:31
stickyrice1http://pastebin.com/JpQ285F320:32
ikoniaso whats the problem20:33
ikoniahe can only ssh to things on 10.2.45.0 without using the default gateway20:33
ikoniathat looks totally correct20:33
stickyrice1thats what im seeing....seems fine20:33
linewbikonia, I agree... it looks correct.  that's what I'm saying...20:33
linewbwell, one thing I am...20:33
ikonialinewb: not looks correct "is correct"20:33
ikonialinewb: what is not working for you20:34
ikoniabecause if you want to ssh to anything not on the 10.2.45.0 network it will have to go via the default gateway20:34
ikoniawhich is what your pastes are showing me is happening, so thats "correct"20:34
linewbwith the netmask on the private network set to /23, I cannot get to other 10.2.x.x things20:34
gmh_I removed a drive from madam raid1 and now I can't boot :/ 14.04 lts20:34
ikonialinewb: the address you gave me earlier was outside of the /2320:35
ikonialinewb: this is why giving fake IP details is not helpful20:35
stickyrice1route add -net 10.2.47.0 netmask 255.255.254.0 gw <10 network gateway>  dev enp5s020:35
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tony4342hey guys - is it possible to access bbc over https? if I go to https://bbc.co.uk I get redirected to www.bbc.com; is this normal?20:36
nicomachustony4342: not really on topic here. ask ##networking I guess20:36
tony4342yeah it's true, I will ask there ... but can somebody confirm that it's the case20:36
ikoniatony4342: that is correct20:36
ikoniaits a rewrite rule20:37
stickyrice1tony yes...it rewrites back to http20:37
ikoniaand it doesn't re-write back to http20:37
ikoniaI can connect on ssl just fine20:37
stickyrice1im too slow on my reply sorry20:37
ikoniait stays on ssl ,just rewrites bbc.co.uk to www.bbc.co.uk to force the certicate to be valid20:38
tony4342but how can I browse it over https? I always get redirected to bbc.com (http) - is my client side certificate chain broken?20:39
ikoniabrowse https://www.bbc.co.uk20:39
tony4342ikonia: I get redirected to bbc.com (http) there; am i compromised?20:40
wedgiei also get redirected to http20:41
ikoniatony4342: are you in the uk /20:41
tony4342nope20:41
ikoniatony4342: then that is correct most likley as the non-uk IP's get redirected off to a different service20:41
ikoniathe bbc website is for UK IP's only for full features due to it's license law20:41
Picitony4342: same thing happens here.20:42
ikoniaI get full https support just fine on a UK address20:42
tony4342ikonia: you mean you are with a UK ISP?20:45
ikoniatony4342: correct20:45
tony4342ok, sry for being off-topic, I just thought it's weird, and I did not know, that this depends on ISP - I have to read up on TLS and HTTPS20:45
wedgietony4342: has nothing do do with tls or https, really. The operators of bbc have decided to send you different places depending on where  you are coming from20:46
ikoniatony4342: its not a tls / https thing20:46
ikoniatony4342: it's a bbc website thing20:46
tony4342and how do they do that? do they know from the IP which ISP it is and map it to coutnries?20:47
wedgietony4342: pretty much.20:48
tony4342anyway, I think news network should *not* do that20:48
ikoniatony4342: they are not interested in what you think20:48
ikoniatony4342: they are interested in their license agreement20:48
stickyrice1where linewb go?20:49
tony4342I think the implication is that, they are not interested in non-UK readers20:50
linewbstill here :)20:50
ppflinewb: did you read what ikonia wrote?20:50
stickyrice1linewb: make any progress?20:50
ikoniathere is no progress to be made20:51
ikoniait's pretty black and white20:51
ikoniaunless you are on the same same subnet - it will have to use the default gateway20:51
stickyrice1ah come on, challenges are fun20:51
ikoniait's not a challange20:51
ikoniait's basic networking20:52
stickyrice1he can use static routes to send out another interface20:52
ikonianot really20:52
ikoniathat will only allow him to route to the address range that interface is on20:52
ikoniaor it will go out of the default gateway20:52
ikoniaand as the address he is using is in neither subnet (but it's hard to be sure as he's giving false info) it won't help20:53
linewbppf, yes :?  I can't post info as desired...20:53
linewbstickyrice1, I believe20:53
fdas231If I touched a poison, then just wipe it with a tissue, is it safe? To handle everyday item or how should I clean it like my keyboard.20:53
stickyrice1if the directly connected device on the 10 network is l3 capaable and has a route table he sure can20:53
ikoniafdas231: nothing to do with this channel20:53
linewbstickyrice1, rebooting to test20:53
ikoniastickyrice1: it's outside the mask20:53
ikoniastickyrice1: based on the fake info he posted earlier20:53
ikoniaso it's not going to bridge the subnet without a router, hence default gateway20:54
natefooso i can't find a way to boot the 16.04 livecd such that it doesn't automatically use swap on any disks it finds, and swapoff basically locks up the system because there's no other swap configured, and i can't create a swapfile on aufs20:54
natefooall of this makes attempting to use gparted on the livecd useless if you are trying to move a swap partition on a disk20:55
stickyrice1what fake ip was given?20:56
kjglaWhenever I connect to our wifi using my PC, other computer cannot connect to the wifi. But when I disconnect my PC, it's fine with other computer. What kind of problem is this?20:59
ppfkjgla: radio signal noise?21:02
kjglappf: I don't understand21:02
stickyrice1kjgla:  if the other computer is connected, can your computer then connect and both be on at the same time?21:04
linewbikonia, stickyrice1, ppf, thank you for your help21:04
FendarisHello, I am trying to figure out, why ubuntu keeps making my wifi connection unusable after a few minutes. I accepted some automatic ubuntu update, and now this happens.21:04
pavloskjgla, your wifi offers 5 ip's, the pc uses the 5th so no other device can connect. When pc is disconnected, 5 becomes available21:04
stickyrice1linewb:  whats the status?21:04
linewbI'm all set21:04
stickyrice1working now?21:04
linewbyes21:04
stickyrice1good deal21:05
stickyrice1that static route help?21:05
linewbyes, was using wrong interface21:05
stickyrice1no worries21:05
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linewbI'm still not sure why opening up netmask would take routing out of the picture but oh well...21:05
linewbs/would/wouldn't21:05
stickyrice1i wasnt here for that part but sounds like from what ikonia wa saying you had overlapping networks maybe21:06
Fendaristest21:06
stickyrice1return test21:06
FendarisJust happened again. After a few minutes the wifi connection doesnt seem to transmit any data anymore.21:06
Fendarisif i manually reconnect to the wifi network, it works again21:06
cepriustest denied21:06
Fendaristhat doesnt happen under windows, and didnt happen before the ubuntu update21:07
stickyrice1nack test21:07
Fendarisit s a bit hard to google, because the description is so generic....21:08
stickyrice1Fendaris:  driver issue?21:08
Fendarisif i click on connection information it says  Speed: 1 Mb/s .. that seems very strange21:09
Fendarisis there some way I could check my driver Stickyrice1? I am just getting started with linux21:09
Tricoy21:09
stickyrice1Fendaris:  I'd have to refer you to someone else here...hopefully they can help....not my strong suit there21:10
Fendarisi am just gonna try sudo apt-get update like the noob i am here =D21:11
Trico_in #what-refuge21:12
stickyrice1Fendaris: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade21:13
mike602or if using 16.04 or higher instead "apt-get" it's better to use just "apt" :)21:15
mike602so "sudo apt udpate; sudo apt upgrade" :)21:15
ppfand full-upgrade, possible21:15
ppfnote there's no real advantage currently in apt vs apt-get21:15
mike602thought "apt" was faster than "apt-get" ?21:16
wedgiefaster to type, maybe'21:16
ppfi haven't noticed the difference21:16
mike602lol yeah is faster to type21:16
mike602so guess that's the advantage lol21:16
k1lapt has a fancy progress bar :)21:16
mike602that too ^21:17
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ppfand colors!21:17
mike602loving my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 though :)21:17
Menzadorapt references a combination of commands in the APT suite of tools.21:17
k1lbut since apt tries  to group the different apt- commands and has a better wording "apt-get dist-upgrade" vs "apt full-upgrade" i do suggest it in here21:17
k1lbecause many users still think dist-upgrade does an upgrade to the next ubuntu release. but instead they are missing important updates to be installed like kernel updates.21:18
ppfadmittedly, the name _is_ weird21:18
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wedgiek1l: can't blame them. The choice of wording in that command is really confusing.21:18
k1lwell, back in the old days that was the way to upgrade to a new release :/21:19
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ppfsadly, apt-file is still not part of apt!21:19
mike602k1l: doesn't the regular updating method include kernel updates? beleive i've seen them included in the past. I only remain on LTS versions21:19
Fendarisubuntu never seems very intuitive to me21:20
ppf{dist,full}-upgrade upgrades kernels21:20
mike602well dang. learn something new every day lol21:20
Fendariswhy is it made in such a complicated way? I have to google each time I need to change my mouse speed.21:20
ppfand on other OSes you know that how?21:21
wedgieits in settings under "mouse & touchpat"    seems pretty intuitive to me...21:21
k1lmike602: apt-get without dist-upgrade is not allowed to change other packages than the ones. this doesnt work on kernel meta pacakges which pull the new kernel packages. that is what "you have held packages" is about.21:22
mike602k1l:  so dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to next release or no?21:23
mike602I don't mind the kernel updates, but I want to stay on LTS lol21:24
k1lmike602: ubuntu doesnt use apt(-get) to upgrade to the next release21:24
\9mike602: dist-upgrade just allows apt to install packages to get the updates done21:24
\9mike602: typically this implies installation of new kernels21:24
Picimike602: unless you're mucking with the internals of /etc/apt/sources.list, an apt(-get) (dist|full)-upgrade will not bring you to a new release.21:24
Pici!dist-upgrade21:25
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.21:25
k1lmike602: its worded "apt full-upgrade" on the new apt because of that confusion :)21:25
nicomachus!full-upgrade21:25
nicomachus:(21:25
nicomachusapt > apt-get21:25
instywhen I click a python script it opens  in text editor instead of running it21:25
wedgienicomachus: depends, i'd say21:25
mike602gotcha, thx21:26
mike602will try now lol21:26
mike602is this recommended to run though? the dist-upgrade on LTS release?21:26
nicomachusinsty: yea. because when you have a GUI file manager open, you usually don't have root.21:26
mike602still little confused lol let me google21:26
wedgiemike602: yes. You WANT kernel updates21:26
Fendariswifi died again21:26
Fendarisit still shows a connection then, but doessnt do anything.21:26
OerHeksmike602, try it, you see why, and you can cancel anyway21:26
mike602I get kernel updates w/ the sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade though?21:26
instynicomachus, can I change that? this script is for xenopenmanager, its supposed to launche the application21:26
mike602you talking about kernel upgrades?21:27
nicomachusinsty: open a terminal, cd to the directory, and then do ./filename21:27
instynicomachus, is there a way to make it more simple in the future21:27
nicomachusmike602: you won't get kernel updates unless you do apt full-upgrade21:27
k1lmike602: use "apt" instead of "apt-get". then there is "sudo apt udpate" to get a new list of packages from the servers. then "sudo apt full-upgrade" to install those new pacakges21:27
stickyrice1work day is over....have a good weekend everyone21:28
ppfactually that's something they might have fixed in apt21:28
ppfwhy not get new sources on the fly21:29
Fendarisgrep NetworkManager /var/log/syslog* <-- doesnt show any comments on the connection dropping out21:29
nicomachusinsty: you can make it executable. right click -> properties -> permissions and then check the "Allow executing file as a program" box21:29
instynicomachus, it already had that checked21:29
instythanks anyway21:30
ppfinsty: in what program are you clicking it21:30
nicomachusinsty: you can make it run on startup I guess.21:30
k1lppf: incoming linux newspaper headline: apt spying on users, connecting to servers wihtout beeing asked. :)21:30
instyppf, just the normal folders view21:30
nicomachusnautilus ^21:31
ppfk1l: well, might make that configurable, for the whiners :D21:31
instyanyway I-ve tried to run it from console and it didnt launch the program I expected21:31
* nicomachus gets out his "Bring back the web scopes by default" protest banner21:31
ppfyum and yast do that since forever, noone's complained there21:31
mike602per what i'm reading online, seems apt full-upgrade and/or apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade your system to the next release21:31
ppfinsty: what did it do then?21:32
ppfmike602: then online is wrong21:32
nicomachusmike602: no21:32
nicomachusdo-release-upgrade does that21:32
instyjust sow me a bunch of text21:32
k1lmike602: that is wrong then.21:32
instysasy s I porterror21:32
instyImportError21:32
ppfso your python program has unfulfilled dependencies21:32
mike602ppf: how is it wrong? lol i'm reading from the site "debian-handbook"21:33
instypastebin21:33
insty!astebin21:33
insty!pastebin21:33
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:33
nicomachusmike602: well, this is Ubuntu not Debian.21:33
nicomachusfor starters.21:33
wedgiedoesn't do that in debian either.21:33
k1lmike602: either its written by someone who doesnt know what he is doing, or its very very outdated, or its combined with some other manual work on the sources.list, which you should not do on ubuntu anyway.21:33
ppfinsty: as per the nautilus problem: you need to enable this in the preferences21:33
instyppf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24016061/21:33
mike602lol okay..21:34
dax(in Debian you have to also edit sources.list, but then it works fine. but yeah, don't do that on Ubuntu, use do-release-upgrade)21:34
mike602i'm not sure lol21:34
TheSDCardhi :)21:34
k1lmike602: the terminal command to upgrade to the new ubuntu release is "do-release-upgrade". as already told ubuntu doesnt use apt(-get) for that21:34
ppfinsty: yes, the script or it's setup is broken21:35
mike602k1l:  oh yeah? hm gotcha21:35
ppfits setup even21:35
mike602so confusing lol21:35
instyppf, I just got it from GitHub21:35
mike602so everytime you want to uprade your system then you should really run "sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade; sudo apt full-upgrade" right?21:36
ppfthen confer their setup instructions or complain21:36
nicomachusmike602: you can just do sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade21:36
ppfinsty: anyways. in nautilus settings, on the Behaviour tab, select the executable file behavior you'd like21:36
k1lmike602: scratch taht sudo apt upgrade in the middle. that is doubled work21:36
mike602okay21:36
koleygr<insty> sudo apt-get install python-configobj21:37
marketahello! I have a laptop with i3 CPU, how is it possible that lspci doesnt show the integrated intel GPU ??21:37
instyppf, where is this behavior tab21:37
marketaonly the dedicated radeon one21:37
instyI did ~ $ sudo chmod u+x your_file.py21:37
ppfinsty: in the nautilus settings21:37
instyand then it worked, from console21:38
mike602just ran the sudo apt full-upgrade and it didn't update/upgrade anything. I'm telling you I get kernel updates via the apt udpate; apt upgrade lol21:38
Fendariswifi still keeps dieing, hm.21:38
Fendarisdriver=ath10k_pci driverversion=4.4.0-62-generic firmware=WLAN.RM.2.0-00180-QCARMSWPZ-121:41
instyppf, okay, I found the behavior tab, choose ask every time, but double click in nautilus does not launch the program. however, calling the script from console does.21:41
Fendarisis there a way to sort lsmod alphabeticallyß21:42
ppfFendaris: lsmod | sort21:42
Mouse42Hi!  16.04: I want ul(1) to process 8859-1 text rather than whatever it is trying to do now (presumably UTF-8).  What do I need to do?  I've tried setting LANG=C, LOCALE=C, LOCALE=en_US.foo for various foo such as 8859-1, ISO8859-1, ISO-8859-1...I assume I'm just missing something, but what?21:42
FendarisI see three entries named like the driver: ath10k_core           311296  1 ath10k_pci; ath10k_pci             45056  0; ath                    32768  1 ath10k_core  is that ok?21:44
instydoes ubuntu have a hibernate21:44
Fendarissome guide says if I see two drivers i should blacklist one21:44
ppfinsty: sure21:45
koleygr<Mouse42> just open gedit and before open the file choose the 8859-1 (add it first if not there)21:45
koleygr<Mouse42> don't try to open the file with gedit... just start gedit and then choose (after adding it) the encoding from down-left corner21:47
koleygrthen save as utf-821:47
Mouse42koleygr, what file?  The text is being output by another program, not sitting in a file.  Converting the 8859-1 to UTF-8 is of no help unless (a) it's done with a filter and (b) there's a filter to convert back.21:47
koleygr<Mouse42> Sorry... i thought it was a file... but you can try save it in a file... I will read again your problem21:48
Fendarisrfkill list all gives a 1: phy0: Wireless Lan Soft blocked: no, hard  blocked: no. Is that ok?21:48
\9Mouse42: it's possible to do encoding conversions on the commandline using iconv21:50
Mouse42Hm, I'll check the manpage, that might be usable as a workaround.21:51
\9Mouse42: in your case it'd probably be command |iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8 |ul21:51
wafflejockFendaris, rfkill output looks good just means no hardware switch is set to off21:51
Mouse42well, iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8 | ul | iconv -f utf-8 -t iso-8859-1...I'll check the manpage, as I said.21:52
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Mouse42Curious.  I'm still getting "ul: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character", even with that.  Maybe I'll have to pull in a ul from elsewhere.  I was hoping to avoid that.21:54
Fendaris@wafflejock my wifi still keeps stopping transmitting data after a few minutes until i manually reset it21:55
Fendarisand my wifi connection says 1Mb/s which doesnt make any sense21:55
instycan i use virt-manager to manage vms21:55
instyin xen21:56
wafflejockFendaris, yeah not sure usually you do just want 1 kernel module loaded for a given piece of hardware but maybe different for some wireless cards21:56
wafflejockFendaris, you may want to try blacklisting some of those though it's relatively harmless to try21:57
wafflejockFendaris, you probably want to check syslog and/or dmesg and/or journalctl for errors when it stops working to see what the failure is too but a little strange having 3 modules loaded for that wireless nic21:58
Fendarishow do i check the syslog?21:59
wafflejockFendaris, it's just a file in /var/log so cat /var/log/syslog or tail -f /var/log/syslog, can just run dmesg to see the most recent messages22:01
hoagiescheck dmesg first.  $dmesg, and give password if it asks22:01
FendarisOh nice, dmsg shows this: [ 3965.748195] ath10k_pci 0000:09:00.0: firmware crashed! (uuid 19425263-dbf0-43a7-8ea4-033f6ed37037)22:04
marioxccHello. How can I restore Firefox saved passwords from a backup?. I am following https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Install-and-Update/Recovering-important-data-from-an-old-profile/ta-p/1007. I copied key3.db, but there is no "logins.json".22:04
XMGmarioxcc, you need 3 files22:05
alawiaa22:05
FendarisSo, now we know my wifi driver is crashing.  Pretty cool. =D but what to do about it? http://dumptext.com/J9K2DLDy22:05
hoagiescool, now google something like ath10k_pci firmware crash, and hopefully you'll find some peeps that have had that same problem before with some answers22:06
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Fendarishahaha. Found a thread with a few people reporting this crash. Here is the first solution someone proposed: I gave up and purchased an Intel 7265 AC m.2 wifi card for my laptop last night, bluetooth and wifi both working fine with that now.22:07
instywhy is virtualization so confusing22:08
instyit-s 201722:09
naccinsty: yes, you point virsh at xen:// iirc22:11
ppfexactly, everyone's moved on to containers, now!22:11
naccinsty: but i also don't know why you are using xen22:11
naccinsty: what do you find confusing?22:11
instynacc, I don-t know what virsh is22:11
naccinsty: libvirt's cli22:11
naccinsty: virt-manager is just a wrapper for the same, iirc22:11
Fendarisecho "options ath10k_core skip_otp=Y" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath10k_core.conf <-- what does this do?22:12
Fendarisoh, interesting. Something about a bluetooth issue... I did add a bluetooth mouse since I last used linux22:12
instynacc, okay, I know virtmanager22:12
naccinsty: virt-manager -c xen:///22:12
naccinsty: something along those lines, i believe22:12
instynacc, I-m running ubuntu on top of xen atm22:12
instyI can open virtmanager and manager more vm-s but not this one_22:13
naccinsty: i don't know what you mean by 'more vm-s'22:13
ppfFendaris: it makes ath10k_core load with the skip_otp option set22:13
instynacc, when I open virtmanager its like  a virtual box22:13
Fendarishaha, I just tried to do what this guy says here >> Mine was still crashing on 5G prior to upgrading the system with pacman -Syu which upgraded my kernel to 6.6.1-2-ARCH ...22:14
instyi can create and delete vms22:14
instyand run them22:14
Fendariswhat i did was pacman -Syu in terminal22:14
Fendarisit complained that pacman isnt installed.. so i did sudo apt install pacman22:14
Hensterhey guys22:14
naccFendaris: pacman is not an ubuntu tool22:14
Fendaristhen pacman -Syu ... and it opened a pacman game which i could play22:14
k1l_Fendaris: dont run pacman on ubuntu22:14
Hensteranybofy evder isntalled ubuntu server on a samsung galaxy 5?22:14
k1l_Fendaris: you know this isnt arch, do you?22:15
naccinsty: yes22:15
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Fendarisi am a complete linux newbie, with some wierd wifi driver crash. So I am stumbling around a little bit22:15
Henster@k1l_ are you talking to me>?22:15
instynacc, but this ubnutu I am running on top of xen right now, does not show up in virt manager22:15
k1l_Henster: no, i didnt use your nick at first.22:15
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naccinsty: where are you running virt-manager? in the ubuntu VM?22:16
Hensterlol right sorry bro22:16
naccinsty: what URI are you connecting virt-manager to?22:16
instynacc, yes22:16
k1l_Henster: and you cant put ubuntu server on your samsung galaxy 5 nativly.22:16
ppfHenster: so you want to use your cellphone as a server? :D22:16
instynacc, I mean, I think this ubuntu is dom022:16
naccinsty: so from other VMs on the same host, you see the host's VMs?22:16
naccinsty: that's not what you said22:16
FendarisTo be honest: I think buying a different wifi modem is the easiest solution...22:16
naccinsty: dom0 is xen itself, aiui, so you're not running ubuntu on top of xen, you're running ubuntu as a xen server22:17
Henster@k1l_ but i dont want to install another app ,, can i place it on the harddrive without android ?22:17
instynacc, grub gives me the option to run ubunto normally or to run it on top of xen. I am running it on top of xen.22:17
naccinsty: and I *really* don't know why you'd want to do that22:17
Henster@ppf yeah i want to use it as a server22:17
naccinsty: but if you are running it as dom0, then of course ubuntu won't show up as a VM22:17
naccinsty: it's not a VM, it's dom022:17
instynacc, got it22:17
k1l_Henster: no. on arm devices like the smartphones you cant just install an OS like you can on the PC. its a driver nightmare.22:17
rekhello, do you know how can i have my usb in otg mode at the boot without using the settings program coman to enable it?22:18
instynacc, I just wanted a way to manage local vms22:18
naccinsty: do you need to use xen?22:18
Henster@k1l_ i thought the rasbery pi sorted that out for us ? ugg should i just a pi then > lol22:18
instynacc, and run them concurrently  as type122:18
ppfHenster: there's more devices in there than just the processor22:18
k1l_Henster: no, the rpi only got some of their drivers open sourced. but not even they got all drivers. you still need binary blobs there.22:19
instynacc, I don't know that I do, but ike you said, this is giving me a dom0, which is necessary22:19
instynacc, otherwise I-d need a separate machine?22:19
naccinsty: no, dom0 is a xen thing22:20
naccinsty: if you just need to run VMs locally you absolutely don't need Xen22:20
instynacc, explain what does run locally mean22:20
naccinsty: and presuming your CPU supports KVM, then all you need is that22:20
naccinsty: on your machine.22:20
instynacc, but i need some GUI to manage them22:21
naccinsty: why? then use virt-manager22:21
ppfor virtualbox22:21
naccinsty: i feel like you need to go do some basic education possibly22:21
naccinsty: on virtualization options and decide which is best for you22:21
instynacc, so, I run ubnutu, either on metal or ad dom0, and use virt manager to manages other vm-s22:22
naccinsty: why do you keep saying 'other vms'?22:22
naccinsty: if you install ubuntu on metal all VMs are 'other VMs'22:22
naccinsty: but on metal means you can do whatever you want as VMs go22:23
naccinsty: dom0 implies xen22:23
naccinsty: virt-manager can support either22:23
instynacc, right now I have the option to run the same ubuntu on metal or on xen22:23
instyin grub22:23
naccinsty: probably because you installed xen22:24
instynacc, yes, and you are saying I can run KVM instead22:24
SlieSo I have no network on my ubuntu box but I want to ssh into it any ideas of what direction I should go?22:25
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naccinsty: yes, if you installed xen, then i assume you wnat to use xen22:26
naccinsty: if you don't know that you need to use xen, don't install it.22:26
instynacc, I was using xen before citrix bought it, it had a GUI thin layer and let you manage and run VMs concurrently22:26
k1l_Slie: why dont you have any network on your box when you want to ssh to it?22:26
SlieLinux isn't live boot with the network card I guess.22:27
instynacc, it installed as its own iso/distro22:27
instynacc, I-m really just trying to replicate that same functionality22:27
k1l_Slie: so its a liveusb?22:27
Sliesorry, ubuntu isn't bootable with the wireless card. neither is gentoo. i'll just find it and load it after i get the system installed on there.22:27
SlieNo not anymore. i'ts a full install through the GUI installer.22:28
k1l_Slie: no chance of adding a ethernet cable? most times that the easiest method to install the needed drivers22:28
Slieoh yeah nevermind ubuntu wont install without a network connection22:30
k1l_Slie: it does22:34
Slieso i would like to ssh into it after i get it installed.22:35
ordertochaosSlie: no network connection, no ssh connection22:35
k1l_Slie: then install the openssh-server package22:38
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Mouse42p/quit22:44
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Xubuntu_Dudealrighty now22:46
Xubuntu_DudeSO far so good22:52
Xubuntu_DudeYeha it's NASCAR rcing time22:52
AlloaPark25zzzz zz22:52
Xubuntu_Dudekinda slow in here22:53
AlloaPark25yup....22:53
Xubuntu_Dudejust got back on with new install22:53
k1l_Xubuntu_Dude: if there is no support request in a technical support channel, that is a good sign :)  for chatter we have #ubuntu-offtopic22:54
rxbaddoes anyone knows a job in Lisbon22:55
Xubuntu_Dudegotcha just seein if someone was on from earlier22:55
Xubuntu_Dudewe'll head over there22:55
OerHeksrxbad, check out ubuntu careers perhaps?22:55
OerHeksfree support is needed urgently22:57
rxbadanyone to chat22:57
rxbadbye22:58
aroghey i have a basic terminal question. if i do ipcs i see a list of all open shared memories that my program created. Unfortunately there isa bug in my code that I forgot to delete those shared memory segments. Is it possible to write a quick scrip that goes through all the shm in ipcs and calls ipcrm -m key_id?23:04
naccarog: yes, that's possible.23:05
naccarog: i'm not sure that it's a very good question -- most things are possible23:05
PhotonWhenever I try to run tmux it breaks, telling me that nothing is a command. It happened randomly: http://pastebin.com/u9ZQqyif23:05
arognacc i need help writing that script :)23:07
nacc!alis | arog: you may want to find a better channel for that, not really a support request23:08
ubottuarog: you may want to find a better channel for that, not really a support request: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"23:08
naccarog: but you probably don't want to delete *all* shm, only the ones your program leaked23:08
arogyeah23:11
arogthanks23:13
arogill ask in bash23:13
PhotonWhenever I try to run tmux it breaks, telling me that nothing is a command. It happened randomly: http://pastebin.com/u9ZQqyif23:13
OerHeksarog lsof? http://blog.tanelpoder.com/2009/01/22/identifying-shared-memory-segment-users-using-lsof/23:14
apesFor Ubuntu 14.04, what service does dhclient run under?23:14
apesI would like to reload it if it's config changes in puppet, but I'm not clear on how the service is managed23:15
naccapes: 14.04 used upstart23:15
apesnacc: I don't see any upstart service managing dhclient though23:17
apesSo something weird is going on23:17
OerHekssudo dhclient -r && sudo client # The -r flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the lease has been released, the client exits23:17
OerHeksor specify adapter sudo dhclient -r eth023:19
OerHeks( maybe there is a more elegant solution to reset)23:20
FendarisI think I messed up installing a boost. Could somebody be so kind to take me through the process of installing/uninstalling a second to see if I mess something up?23:21
naccFendaris: how did you install it?23:21
PhotonWhenever I try to run tmux it breaks, telling me that nothing is a command. It happened randomly: http://pastebin.com/u9ZQqyif23:23
billymichaelim having an issue where sometimes my mouse focus gets stuck on my window until i go to terminal view (ctrl+alt+f6) and back to desktop view (ctrl+alt+f7). Any ideas why this sometimes happens?23:25
billymichaelOnce the focus is stuck the desktop will no longer respond to mouse clicks23:26
naccbillymichael: anything in dmesg when it does?23:26
billymichaelWill i need to check when it is actually happening? or can i check now (it happened mayube 15 mins ago..23:27
naccbillymichael: it depends, but it doesn't hurt to look23:27
Fendaris@nacc: unfortunately in a variety of ways by now xD23:27
Fendariswhich is great... good opportunity to get a better ubuntu understanding23:28
naccFendaris: that's probably your first mistake ... did you do those ways as root or as your user?23:28
naccFendaris: (sudo would be as root as well)23:28
Fendarispartially yes23:28
Fendarisso I should be able to deinstall it though23:28
billymichaelShould i be looking for anything in particular?23:29
FendarisI thought I deinstalled it, and reinstalled 1.55. But when I run cmake, it says Boost Version 1.58.023:29
naccFendaris: as root, you can easily do things taht break your system and are not recoverable, just a word of warnig23:29
naccFendaris: so if you do something as root, you should know 100% what it does and why and not doing it otherwise23:29
FendarisI already broke it a few times while installing tensorflow on an enthusiast system as a complete linux beginner xD23:29
Fendarisbut  got that to run eventually23:30
apesAnyone know how dhclient get started/daemonized on Ubuntu? I'm not seing a service around it in either 14.04 or 16.04.23:30
naccapes: on 16.04 desktop, pstree indicates lxd and networkmanager start it23:31
naccapes: `pstree` may help you out23:31
Fendarisi ll first try to delete the folder of what i am trying to build, and rebuild it cleanly, to see if cmake detects my prefered boost version23:31
Fendarisstupid question: how do I find my /usr/local/ folder?23:33
naccFendaris: what do you mean?23:33
naccFendaris: it's /usr/local.23:33
Fendarismy terminal says name@name:~$23:34
Fendarisdo I just go cd /usr/local?23:34
naccFendaris: you asked where an absolute path was ... sort of nonsensical23:34
apesnacc: Where did you get the lxd and networkmanager from pstree?23:34
Fendarisah nice :D23:34
naccFendaris: yes?23:34
naccapes: on my 16.10 system, `pstree | less` and looked for dhclient and then walked up the tree23:35
k1l_Fendaris: if a path starts with /path/to/somewhere it always means: starts at / (rootfolder) which is the lowest base.23:35
apesnacc: dhclient just appears as a child of systemd for me23:35
Fendarisso I did this: ./bootstrap.sh --prefix=/usr/local when I installed boost... is there an easy way to tell where it is inside there? does it get put into lib?23:35
naccapes: are you on a server?23:35
apesYes23:35
Fendaristhere is no boost folder in /usr/local23:35
naccapes: ah, that'd be the difference, i'm on a desktop23:35
k1l_Fendaris: if its path/to/somewhere it means starting from the path where you are, or its a typo and the first / was forgotten :)23:35
naccFendaris: it will have installed to multiple directories within /usr/local23:36
naccFendaris: as --prefix just says here is what you should preifx to all your install directories23:36
naccFendaris: you can't ascertain what they all are without knowing what the installer did23:36
Fendarismy goal is to figure out which boost files I have. Do i have 1.58 and 1.55 installed, or only one or neither. I thought I can check the folders, but am unsure where they are23:36
naccFendaris: hence my -- if you don't know what something is going to do as root, don't do it.23:36
Fendariswell, but i know which install commands i used23:37
k1l_!info libboost-all-dev xenial23:37
ubottulibboost-all-dev (source: boost-defaults): Boost C++ Libraries development files (ALL) (default version). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.58.0.1ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 10 kB23:37
naccFendaris: do you know what those commands did?23:37
FendarisAbsolutely not, but I thought they are standard ubuntu commands?23:37
naccFendaris: uh23:37
naccFendaris: a script you ran23:37
FendarisI mean this for example: sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev23:37
wedgiethere are a lot of "standard" commands that can do terrible things to your system23:37
Fendarishow can i read the install script of this sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev?23:38
naccFendaris: you never ran that install script23:38
k1l_Fendaris: a sledgehammer is a standard tool. but if you use it on your car, its not a good use :)23:38
naccFendaris: nad it doesn't put anyting in /usr/local23:38
Fendarisi ran that, too, nacc23:38
naccFendaris: ran what too?23:38
FendarisHow do I figure out where sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev goes? as i used that and it "infected" me with the wrong versio nthat I dont need xD23:38
Fendarisalso I thought I uninstalled it and it should be gone23:39
naccFendaris: dpkg -L libboost-all-dev23:39
Fendarisdpkg -S /usr/include/boost/version.hpp sudo apt-get autoremove package23:39
FendarisI did this23:39
Fendariswhich is supposed to delete boost23:39
naccFendaris: well, that line on its own is nonsense, i'm assuming you used a pipe or a script23:39
wedgie-S searches...23:39
yakizaHello everyone i  have just bought an ssd and i put my system on my ssd from my old harddrive and  i have installed the same proprietary drivers for my graphics card and they dont work my coumputer wont even start properly any help23:39
yakiza?23:39
Fendarisit s two lines23:40
naccFendaris: what did you put for 'package'?23:40
Fendaristhe description said the first line finds the boost package, and the second one removes it23:40
Fendarisnothing23:40
nacc...23:40
Fendarisi just left it as package, which is apparently wrong judging from your answer xD23:40
naccFendaris: i feel like you should read the ubuntu manual or some basic scripting things23:40
naccFendaris: and not c&p random things from the internet as root23:40
naccFendaris: in that particular case, it wanted you to use the first command to find a package name and use the second command to remove it23:41
naccFendaris: instead you attempted to autoremove something called 'package'23:41
Fendarisah nvm, i remembered that wrong. I already figured out that i need to put the name of the package23:41
naccFendaris: which, if you looked at the output from apt in that case, would be pretty obvious23:41
FendarisI did that, and I am repeating it now to remove sudo apt-get autoremove libboost1.58-dev23:41
naccFendaris: ok, what package name did you use?23:41
Hensterhey man you know ehn you cp a file and use -R -v i which it showd a bar of the current file size that im copyig  like when you use wget23:42
Fendaris>> Removing openmpi-common (1.10.2-8ubuntu1) ...23:42
Fendaris .... and so on and so on .... is it gone now?23:42
Hensterlol i jsut called everyine hey man23:42
Fendarisok it s gone :)23:42
naccFendaris: 'autoremove' does not typically take any arguments23:42
FendarisPackage 'libboost1.58-dev' is not installed23:42
Fendarisit worked, i deinstalled 1.5823:42
naccFendaris: you remove something, then you autoremove packages (without any specification) that are no longer needed23:43
Fendarisah, ok. So that's the proper way to go about it? How do you "remove something" without autoremove?23:43
naccFendaris: apt remove <pkgname>23:43
SunSparcWhen packaging an app if I put a file in "debian/service" it will end up installed at "/lib/systemd/system/[package-name].service". Is there an equivalent for a unit.path file?23:44
Fendarisbut now i dont need to do that, because dpgk -S finds no  boost anymore?23:44
geniiIf you want the packages conf files and other things gone, use purge23:44
Fendarisit s gone23:44
Fendaris...but it is impossible to use sudo apt install to get an older version of boost? I have to do that manually?23:44
FendarisYes! :-) Cmake doesn't find boost 1.58 anymore. it's gone =D23:46
Fendaris...now... if I could just manage to install 1.55 properly...23:46
naccFendaris: `apt-cache policy <pkgname>` will tell you what you can install23:46
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naccFendaris: 1.55 is only available officially on 14.0423:47
Fendarisoh, how do i figure out again if a version older than 1.58 is available on ubuntu 16.04?23:47
Fendarisdont tell me there is none, please xD23:47
naccFendaris: apt-cache search probably23:47
naccFendaris: and officially there is none23:48
Fendarisopen source just never works officially23:48
phormathi. how do i upgrade form ubuntu 16.04 LTS to 16.04.02 LTS using apt-get?23:48
cfhowlettphormat, sudo apt full-uprgrade23:48
k1l_phormat: just run "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt full-upgrade"23:48
cfhowlett*upgrade23:48
phormatthx23:49
yakizaHello everyone i  have just bought an ssd and i put my system on my ssd from my old harddrive and  i have installed the same proprietary drivers for my graphics card and they dont work my coumputer wont even start properly any help23:49
naccFendaris: that's FUD23:49
SunSparcAny packaging gurus here?23:51
cfhowlett!packaging | SunSparc23:51
ubottuSunSparc: The packaging guide is at http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring23:51
SunSparccfhowlett: Thanks23:52
cfhowletthappy2help!  cool name btw23:52
craptalki am seeking info around MBR partition, my question is, does windows able to be installed in the Harddisk other than primary partition? since linux can be installed in logical partition23:52
SunSparccfhowlett: Gotta love that Sun hardware. ;)23:52
naccSunSparc: i believe dh-systemd handles that partiular case23:53
koleygr<craptalk> You can use gpt partition table and have as much primary partitions as you want23:53
phormatcfhowlett: how do i verify that i now indeed have ubuntu 16.04.2 and not 16.04? System settings > Details shows 16.0423:54
craptalkkoleygr: i get your point, but i am currently using MBR23:54
SunSparcnacc: Thank you23:54
craptalkand asking about MBR23:54
craptalkcan windows be installed in ext partition?23:54
naccphormat: do the upgrade, reboot, lsb_release -a (iirc), but note that 16.04.2 is mostly relevant for fresh installs23:54
naccphormat: and if you are upgrading, you will need to manually enable HWE if you want23:55
craptalki have read that it cant23:55
craptalkis that true?23:55
phormatnacc: thanks23:55
daxcraptalk: Windows needs a primary partition, I believe23:55
daxcraptalk: ##windows would probably know better23:55
davidjAlright, dumb question time. Fresh ubuntu installation. Nothing installed aside from a couple of python/pip3 packages, smartmontools & gsmartmonitor (sp?). Anyways. ~10am this morning rolls around, and suddenly my computer starts blaring alarm-like sounds. I audited my syslogs, and there's lots of pulseaudio/alsa stuff around the time it occurred, but23:57
davidjnothing stupidly obvious.23:57
davidjAny thoughts?23:57
davidjI should note, I have no scheduling apps/alarms of any sort configured.23:57
koleygr<craptalk> It suggested that you first insatll windows and after that linux... because sometimes it doesn't even ask ant takes all the space for windows... You will probably need a new install of everything... So just don't forget to keep buck ups and if you do a new install of everything try a gpt23:58

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