[00:01] <fhess> I have a profile for HDMT 7.1 and it works fine but I need a 5.1 profile. how to I add a 5.1 profile to Driver: module-alsa-card?
[00:01] <fhess> that's HDMI
[00:02] <lerner> hi, is '.bashrc' my 'bash_profile'? I dont find any file with that exact name in my home dir.
[00:03] <JulesSkiff> Hi All, question from a newbie - any hackers room around? (for non professionals)? Thanks
[00:04] <Error|404> JulesSkiff: ##hackers #hackers
[00:04] <wedgie> just ask your question
[00:04] <wedgie> (if it is ubuntu support related, of course)
[00:04] <JulesSkiff> nope. not really related. Thanks anyways ...
[00:05] <JulesSkiff> searching #hackers - nothing ... just got #NetHack ...
[00:05] <JulesSkiff> wedgie - do you know why?
[00:05] <fred911> jules: maybe efnet?
[00:06] <wedgie> !alis
[00:06] <JulesSkiff> Thanks@
[00:06] <JulesSkiff> !
[00:06] <k1l> lerner: ubuntu uses .profile
[00:06] <lerner> ok
[00:06] <k1l> lerner: read the head in that  file
[00:06] <ferfogliad> startx
[00:08] <The_Myth> guys, it's possible to install all locales at once?
[00:09] <bazhang> The_Myth, with enough disk space, why not
[00:10] <The_Myth> how? 30Gb isn't enough? :x
[00:10] <bazhang> The_Myth, sure it is
[00:13] <fred911> are output profiles for audio that module-alsa-card.c lists determined by the driver or module or can I add one, or do i need one that will also support the output profile I want?
[00:13] <The_Myth> erm.. I guess I've installed the en_US and that's good enough. still one problem left.. how to use en_US.UTF-8 in all? I mean, LANGUAGE, LC_ALL, and so on?
[00:17] <precise> Is there a dedicated chan for Ubuntu server?
[00:18] <k1l> precise: #ubuntu-server but you can ask here too
[00:18] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server
[00:19] <precise> Ok, well I was logged in via SSH, doing an apt dist-upgrade on my Amazon VPS. My laptop lost power and killed said session and dist-upgrade. dpkg --configure -a was run, and it through "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[00:19] <precise>  unable to install updated status of 'linux-firmware': No such file or directory"
[00:20] <precise> I did an, apt clean, and that returned normal.
[00:20] <precise> I keep getting errors in regards to "N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension"
[00:20] <precise> Anyways, that's the gist of my problems, sorry for the flood.
[00:21] <precise> I'm sorta scared to reboot this thing, as it might never return :/
[00:21] <Dr_Coke> Oh wow
[00:22] <precise> Yeah, this think got tanked :/
[00:22] <precise> I am in the midst of backing up my configs and the likes, but it is only my IRC bouncer, so no big loss, but still :P
[00:23] <Dr_Coke> I wish I could help
[00:23] <fred911> PRE: it's no big deal.. it's an easy fix just google it or don't worry about it.
[00:23] <precise> fred911: You are talking to me?
[00:23] <fred911> it's most likely due to a repo that's duped/ added or removed and yes precise
[00:24] <Dr_Coke> precise what about apt-get autoremove
[00:24] <precise> Dr_Coke: It is removing some old kernel files, as normal
[00:24] <k1l> precise: just remove that file.
[00:25] <Dr_Coke> k1l I was thinking the same thing
[00:25] <precise> k1l: $thatFile being the files in my earlier mentioned errors/
[00:25] <precise> ?
[00:25] <k1l> for the warning about the '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' file
[00:25] <precise> Ok
[00:25] <Dr_Coke> thanks k1l
[00:26] <Dr_Coke> precise are you running gnome or kde or something else?
[00:26] <k1l> (thats happening on most ubuntus right now when running the updates)
[00:26] <precise> Dr_Coke: Straight CLI, is server variant.
[00:26] <precise> k1l: Huh...
[00:26] <Dr_Coke> oh
[00:27] <Dr_Coke> precise I'm running mint
[00:27] <bazhang> Dr_Coke, then ask mintsupport
[00:28] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Dr_Coke
[00:28] <Dr_Coke> bazhang I never asked a question
[00:28] <Dr_Coke> How did I know someone would come out with that
[00:29] <bazhang> Dr_Coke, why mention it in this support channel, it's offtopic and not supported
[00:29] <precise> Guys please...
[00:29] <Dr_Coke> precise I'm not worried man I think I seen this keyboard warrior before
[00:30] <bazhang> chatter elsewhere please Dr_Coke
[00:30] <Dr_Coke> I'm not allowed to chat in here now?
[00:30] <bazhang> no
[00:30] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[00:30] <Dr_Coke> Since when did this come into effect
[00:31] <nacc> Dr_Coke: it's been in effect for a while
[00:31] <precise> Meanwhile, a few months back I set my ubuntu VPS with a host of website.com (example) and that domain expired, now everytime I run sudo it says it can't resolve said domain. I checked /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf and there are no mentions of said domain.
[00:31] <Sith_Lord> this may sound dumb but for all my googling i can find everything EXCEPT this... you know when you first type the "mail" command at the command prompt, and you get that list of messages? is there a way to redisplay that list? Seems I can only do it by exiting and reentering the mail program for that list to dsiplay.
[00:31] <precise> Any other places it could be coming from?
[00:32] <nacc> Sith_Lord: 'h'
[00:32] <wedgie> precise: what does your sudoers config look like? /etc/sudoers
[00:32] <nacc> Sith_Lord: at the prompt, iirc
[00:32] <Sith_Lord> nacc: lol thanks
[00:33] <precise> wedgie: Nothing out of the ordinary, no reference to said domain.
[00:33] <wedgie> precise: and /etc/hostname?
[00:33] <Sith_Lord> i though when i read that in the man page it was going to actually print the message headers... in their entirety. thanks again
[00:33] <Dr_Coke> whos the op in here?
[00:33] <precise> wedgie: Oh shit, that's it :) Thanks!
[00:34] <wedgie> precise: hostnamectl set-hostname name.domain.tld      <-- can change your hostname that way
[00:34] <precise> wedgie: Thanks :)
[00:34] <wedgie> and it should take care of the little files... except for /etc/hosts
[00:35] <nacc> Dr_Coke: ops are present as needed
[00:35] <Dr_Coke> nacc are you an op
[00:35] <nacc> Dr_Coke: no
[00:35] <Dr_Coke> or bazhang ?
[00:36] <nacc> Dr_Coke: but you're being pretty offtopic, please take it elsewhere
[00:36] <Dr_Coke> Is bazhang an op?
[00:36] <Dr_Coke> I can't believe how strict these rules are
[00:37] <precise> Dr_Coke: A lot of people come here for help, and if they get buried in banter and chitchat, that isn't good.
[00:46] <nx9010> are there emulators that can be run under Lubuntu smooth with a P4 2.6 Ghz single core with 256 mb RAM? Like sega or ps1 maybe?
[00:47] <precise> Damn, I haven't seen those kind of specs in quite a while :P
[00:47] <bazhang> nx9010, can you get firefox to run on that
[00:47] <nx9010> Yeah I only got crappy old laptops as second PC's
[00:47] <nx9010> bazhang, Hey yeah, I was here yesterday :D
[00:47] <bazhang> nx9010, yes I know
[00:48] <bazhang> nx9010, can you get ff to run on it
[00:48] <nx9010> I would rather not run things through FF though. You are right bazhang, it is too heavy unless just downloading a torrent
[00:48] <bazhang> nx9010, which browser, if any can you use with that
[00:49] <precise> IceWeasle?
[00:49] <Colombo> Hi, trying to install Ubuntu 16.04.01 from liveCD. It seems to hang on "Preparing to install Ubuntu" and nothing is happening (mostly). Is the bug from Ubuntu 10.04 that caused it still unresolved?
[00:49] <nx9010> bazhang, I am using Firefox currently, but it takes 40 ~ 50 seconds to load it into ram
[00:49] <bazhang> nx9010, you mean swap?
[00:49] <nx9010> I was thinking about installing Chromium with pepper for flash
[00:49] <nx9010> bazhang, Yes, I suppose so as I hit over 256 MB
[00:50] <fred911> Colombo: does it live environment and OS work?
[00:50] <bazhang> nx9010, if you can run firefox, then you can run those old times game roms for free in it, from archive.org
[00:50] <nx9010> Normally Chrome takes way more ram on my Windows PC than Firefox.. but I have 16GB on my normal pc, so there it's a non issue.
[00:51] <nx9010> bazhang, Yeah I am worried it won't work. Unless I find a stand alone browser and get some roms
[00:51] <nx9010> it can rarely load a gif without issues in FF bazhang
[00:51] <bazhang> archive.org is the place to get them nx9010
[00:51] <precise> Yikes
[00:51] <nx9010> thanks bazhang :)
[00:52] <bazhang> nx9010, however you will not be getting a full HD on that machine, not with such very low specs
[00:52] <precise> >P4
[00:52] <nx9010> How to install Chromium now btw? apt-get install chromium does not work..
[00:52] <precise> >HD
[00:52] <bazhang> full HD video
[00:52] <precise> lol
[00:53] <bazhang> chromium-browser
[00:53] <bazhang> that is the package name
[00:53] <nx9010> bazhang, Well.. good to know games where ran in 360x240 then..
[00:53] <nx9010> for the Sega at least
[00:54] <nx9010> Can I install pepper for flash along with it?
[00:54] <lerner> what command do I need to see myinterfaces?
[00:54] <precise> lerner: ifconfig
[00:55] <lerner> thx
[00:55] <precise> np
[00:56] <nx9010> is there a way to let Lubuntu re-install?
[00:57] <precise> How so? Why?
[00:57] <nx9010> I keep getting Kernel crashes after I leave this laptop for a while
[00:57] <nx9010> Lubuntu has experienced an error, please report.. (something like that)
[00:57] <precise> Reinstalling wont fix that I don't think, it sounds like a hardware problem...
[00:57] <precise> I could be wrong though...
[00:57] <fred911> sounds like a harddrive going bad
[00:58] <nx9010> I want to try it anyways. People keep saying this but never had a problem with Windows on here.
[00:58] <nx9010> Is there  a chkdsk command for Linux?
[00:58] <precise> fsck
[00:59] <nx9010> Well, can't run that because it's mounted..
[00:59] <roothorick> chkdsk won't run on mounted volumes either...
[00:59] <nx9010> How do I make it ask me to do it on reboot? I feel like feeding a little toddler running Linux, not learning crap from itself haha
[00:59] <precise> There is a way to get a buntu to do a fsck on reboot
[00:59] <precise> I forget how though...
[00:59] <roothorick> anyway, Just dropped a GTX 1070 into my desktop, installed nvidia-367, when scren blanking, screen goes black but monitors stay on and cursor is still visible
[01:00] <roothorick> lock screen comes up fine on mouse/keyboard input
[01:00] <fred911> anyone know how to install an additional audio output profile that missing from the dropdown in pulseaudio volume control?
[01:00] <precise> nx9010: Add a file called forcefsck in root. So /forcefsck
[01:00] <precise> Then reboot
[01:00] <fred911> precise: I think -f will do it on reboot
[01:01] <precise> fred911: Oh, that would work too :P
[01:01] <precise> I just had read the prior method the other day :P
[01:01] <bobafett> anyone having trouble connecting to vpn? it says connecting but no pages load and i cant ping passed router
[01:01] <nx9010> It does not tell me it will, it says: e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[01:01] <bobafett> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2352821
[01:01] <precise> bobafett: ...What vpn?
[01:01] <fred911> might want to try a lowlevel non-destructive format to see if the drive is bad also
[01:01] <nx9010> But should I try to reboot anyways?
[01:02] <Homely_Girl> k1l, How do I access my login key password again please?
[01:02] <bobafett> openvpn configured in DO on ubuntu 14.04
[01:02] <nx9010> No I just want to do things the normal way, why is that always so hard to ask on Linux. Mac OS all over again. fml
[01:02] <bobafett> i loaded up windows 10 and can connect no problem. it says connection successful i can see the IP in ifconfig but nothing loads
[01:03] <precise> nx9010: just su -; cd /; touch forcefsck; reboot
[01:03] <bazhang> nx9010, the normal way , meaning what?
[01:03] <bazhang> precise, we use sudo, never su
[01:03] <wedgie> Homely_Girl: you mean the passphrase for an envrypted home dir?
[01:04] <Nio_O> Hi mates, i ve ubuntu 10 minutes, can me somebody tell how i can browse other media .. ?
[01:04] <precise> bazhang: fair enough :P
[01:04] <bazhang> Nio_O, which other media
[01:04] <nx9010> bazhang, Okay, why does Linux have the smallest user base? I think because it's harder to control than Apple's OS.. and I do not like to say that. I have been using Ubuntu before the owners sold the system out to gov
[01:05] <precise> ...
[01:05] <Nio_O> i have on hdd ě partitions, in once is windows, and linux in sec., how i ca browse files on windows from linux ?
[01:05] <Homely_Girl> wedgie,  All I can remember is it was a nautical word! lol I want to change the login key password, it's different to my user account password
[01:05] <bazhang> nx9010, thats not topical here at all
[01:05] <nx9010> Or let the source be meddled with, because they could not spy easily on Ubuntu users.
[01:05] <nx9010> nx9010, No I get that xD
[01:05] <nx9010> bazhang, *
[01:06] <bobafett> precise, any idea?
[01:06] <precise> Nio_O: If I understand you correctly, you have a dual boot system and want to view your Windows files from the Linux install? Or is it removable media like a USB or CD/DVD that you use with Windows?
[01:06] <nx9010> It would explain why it runs so slow right now though on the same hardware.. Did not really get any new functions.
[01:06] <precise> bobafett: No idea, sorry man.
[01:07] <precise> nx9010: Please keep it on topic.
[01:07] <Nio_O> i have installed the linux
[01:07] <precise> Nio_O: Is Windows installed on the same computer?
[01:07] <Nio_O> yes
[01:07] <fred911> you need NTFS support
[01:08] <precise> Nio_O: So what happens when you turn on the computer?
[01:08] <precise> fred911: Is what I'm getting at :P
[01:08] <Homely_Girl> wedgie, When I first boot up my laptop 'n open Chrome I'm asked for a login key password, k1l told me how to change it but I didn't do it properly, 'cos it's still the old password!
[01:08] <precise> Homely_Girl: You mean for a Google account? Or is it part of Ubuntu?
[01:08] <bobafett> what are some other ubuntu channels for support
[01:08] <wedgie> ah, that. I have no idea. I'd like to know how to make that thing go away completely, but have been too lazy to ever look into it
[01:09] <precise> bobafett: #ubuntu-server I guess...
[01:09] <Nio_O> i can choose between systems, but i dont know how i can see files of windows in linux, in nautilus i ve error if i click on the "hdd with windows"
[01:09] <Homely_Girl> precise, It's part of ubuntu.
[01:09] <Homely_Girl> Lemme reboot 'n tell you exactly wot it's called.....bbiab
[01:09] <fred911> Nio_O: go to that URL I sent you and it will show you how to install the support you need to see an NTFS partition
[01:09] <Homely_Girl> precise, Lemme reboot 'n tell you exactly wot it's called.....bbiab
[01:10] <precise> Nio_O: Do as fred911 suggests :P
[01:10] <nx9010> precise, okay, rebooting, thanks for helping though
[01:10] <precise> nx9010: Yep
[01:11] <Nio_O> how url ?
[01:11] <nx9010> Thinking about running something else maybe, that's more light weight.. wish DSL could run all the software Lubuntu runs, okay brb (or in a while, might take long)
[01:11] <fred911> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396629
[01:12] <roothorick> more and more often it seems like all Googling gets me is an accusation of being a bot
[01:12] <fred911> Nio_O: click that URl and you'll be fixed up (might need to reboot before you can see the partition)
[01:12] <Nio_O> i am reeding it, ty
[01:13] <fred911> roothorick: that will happen more frequently if you're using Tor or a VPN
[01:14] <nx9010> oh uhm wow.. it gave an error before rebooting real quick precise , something in the terminal about being unable to touch...
[01:14] <arooni> how do i change my password for the currently loged in user
[01:14] <arooni> and if i ever forget it ; am I SOL?
[01:14] <nx9010> I know it sounds weird, but it said unable to touch.. then BOOM, restarted
[01:15] <arooni> should i create a second admin account with sudo in case i ever forget?
[01:15] <fred911> arooni: passwd in a terminal
[01:15] <precise> nx9010: Did you use touch as a sudoer?
[01:15] <nx9010> I ran your command but with sudo instead of su.
[01:15] <Homely_Girl> precise, after opening Chrome I get "Enter your password to unlock your login keyring"  I want to change that password
[01:16] <precise> Homely_Girl: Ooooohhh
[01:16] <precise> Ok
[01:16] <Homely_Girl> precise, yayyyy!
[01:16] <precise> nx9010: sudo touch /forcefsck?
[01:16] <Homely_Girl> precise, Do you know how I change it?
[01:16] <nx9010>  sudo -; cd /; touch forcefsck
[01:17] <fred911> Homely_Girl: do you have passwords in the keyring?
[01:17] <Bashing-om> arooni: Here are easy instructions to reset your password in Ubuntu:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .
[01:17] <Homely_Girl> fred911, I do
[01:17] <roothorick> so, "xset dpms force off" gives a black screen, but the monitor stays on with visible backlight. Desktop comes back instantly when moving the mouse
[01:17] <fred911> Homely_Girl: and you don't remember your current password?
[01:18] <Homely_Girl> fred911, I do, it's just tedious to type hence I want to change it to something easier to type without needing to look at the kbrd
[01:18] <nx9010> Did I do it wrong, precise ?
[01:18] <precise> nx9010: You need to go to the root of your file system, which is what >cd / does, sudo makes you a superuser then touch simply creates a file, so >touch forcefsck creates an empty file called forcefsck.
[01:19] <precise> Each semicolon represents a new command, your error could have been in the syntax I used.
[01:19] <precise> Oh, you used sudo -
[01:19] <precise> :P
[01:19] <Nio_O> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g &
[01:19] <Nio_O>  :((
[01:19] <precise> nx9010: cd /
[01:20] <Nio_O> https://thepasteb.in/p/DRhjNERQVvYfy
[01:20] <precise> sudo touch forcefsck
[01:20] <precise> Then reboot
[01:20] <precise> nx9010: ^
[01:21] <fred911> Nio_O: do you just want to read or do you want write pvgs
[01:22] <Bashing-om> precise: nx9010 :: systmd (16.04) ? Got a different way to run a file system check : https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html .
[01:22] <precise> Bashing-om: Oh... reading your link now...
[01:23] <precise> Oh, he's gone..
[01:23] <precise> IDK what version of LUbuntu he was running.
[01:24] <Homely_Girl> precise, I'm still here ;)
[01:24] <precise> Homely_Girl: Oh, not you silly :P
[01:24] <precise> nx9010
[01:24] <Bashing-om> precise: Hate when that ^happens . Bet he be back soon :)
[01:24] <nx9010> precise, well.. I feel stupid :(
[01:24] <precise> Speak of the devil :P
[01:24] <precise> nx9010: Why is that?
[01:24] <Homely_Girl> precise, Only stupid if u can't solve my annoying issue! lol
[01:24] <nx9010> precise, It did tell me it worked, but It just rebooted, saw a black screen for 20 seconds and then I saw my desktop.
[01:25] <fred911> Homely_Girl: did you read the link I sent?
[01:25] <Homely_Girl> fred911, I did not see the link you sent, sorry
[01:25] <fred911> Homely_Girl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/31786/chrome-asks-for-password-to-unlock-keyring-on-startup
[01:25] <precise> nx9010: Logs are kept in /var/log/fsck
[01:25] <fred911> sorry
[01:26] <nx9010> should the file be made under /home/nx9010 ?
[01:26] <nx9010> oh let me see.
[01:26] <precise> No, it should have been created
[01:26] <wedgie> question related to Homely_Girl's: How do you configure Chrome to not use a keyring at all? Sick of it prompting me for that, twice, every time i launch it and once again when i close it.
[01:26] <precise> so >cat /var/log/fsck
[01:26] <precise> nx9010: ^
[01:27] <nx9010> precise, (Nothing has been logged yet.)
[01:27] <Homely_Girl> wedgie, I will try get my head around that, thanks....a lot to read for my basic skill set!
[01:27] <precise> wedgie: nx9010 Hmmm.
[01:27] <precise> OH woops
[01:27] <precise> :P
[01:27] <nx9010> Maybe I misrun a command.
[01:27] <nx9010> Let me try again in steps.
[01:27] <precise> nx9010: No, it looks like a known bug...
[01:28] <nx9010> Oh
[01:28] <fred911> wedgie: go to settings > advanced > security and untick the proper box
[01:28] <precise> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/513644
[01:28] <nx9010> No software I can install that runs hdd checks?
[01:28] <precise> nx9010: Are you on gnome?
[01:28] <nx9010> precise, no lxde
[01:29] <nx9010> Lubuntu
[01:29] <precise> If lxde has a equivalent, the Gnome Disk Utility shows SMART status and values..
[01:29] <precise> Also, what version of Lubuntu?
[01:29] <wedgie> fred911: in chrome? I have no "security" section... unless i'm looking in completely the wrong place
[01:29] <fred911> nx9010: on your hardware I'd boot windows and grab an old copy of spinrite
[01:30] <Nio_O> precise: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396629 here in first post is "aplications" menu, where is this ?
[01:30] <fred911> wedgie: sorry it's under passwords and forms
[01:30] <nx9010> fred911, Yeah I am not too sure about using Windows XP anymore though now that M$ deliberately ruined their OS
[01:30] <wedgie> fred911: both unchecked.
[01:31] <nx9010> I kinda liked the low ram usage of Lubuntu
[01:31] <Bashing-om> Homely_Girl: Try: Close Chrome. Open the file manager, press ctrl+H or show hidden files from menu, go to .local/share/keyrings, move the content to some backup place. Then logout and log back in. Open Chrome, there will be a pop up asking you to set a keyring password, leave it blank, confirm, then it shouldn't bother you anymore. If everything works, you can delete the backup you saved earlier.
[01:31] <precise> Nio_O: Are you on 16.04?
[01:31] <Nio_O> yes
[01:31] <Nio_O> i think
[01:31] <Homely_Girl> Bashing-om, Thanks I'll give it a go.
[01:31] <precise> Nio_O: Do you have a sidebar with shortcuts?
[01:32] <Nio_O> yes on left
[01:32] <precise> Ok, so you are atleast running unity, so you don't have a menu bar at the top
[01:32] <nx9010> precise, running 16.04.2 LTS
[01:32] <precise> Nio_O: IMO, it would be easier to just follow the first replies tutorial...
[01:32] <precise> Via the terminal
[01:33]  * precise doesn't like Unity
[01:33] <precise> Nio_O: Do you have a sidebar with shortcuts?:P
[01:33] <precise> Woops
[01:33] <precise> Misspost, sorry
[01:33]  * nx9010 hates Unity lol, netbook bs
[01:34] <Nio_O> https://thepasteb.in/p/nZhlAPJWYjgFY
[01:34] <Nio_O> so now, just restart ?
[01:34] <nx9010> I can't open Software center under lubuntu though precise. so more than 1 thing must be wrong
[01:35] <precise> Nio_O: Did you use fdisk -l to check to make sure that your Windows partition was /dev/sda1?
[01:35] <precise> Can you pastebin the results of fdisk -l?
[01:35] <nx9010> That is why I wanted to reinstall but I want to check if the HDD is still okay, it never made any weird noises like most of my HDDs that died
[01:35] <precise> Nio_O: ^
[01:36] <Nio_O> https://thepasteb.in/p/y8h6q8lO2ZDuO my mistake but same result
[01:36] <precise> Nio_O: Still, just to be sure, can you pastebin the results of >sudo fdisk -l
[01:36] <precise> ?
[01:36] <Colombo> fred911: Yeah. It seems that it started to work after while. It looks like more complicated partitioning, two harddrives, potentially one of them broken, and dirty as hell mechanics are not helping in this process at all:/
[01:37] <Homely_Girl> Bashing-om, You genius!! Thank you!!
[01:37] <Homely_Girl> Bashing-om, Will Chrome remember individual passwords for me or not?
[01:38] <Nio_O> https://thepasteb.in/p/KOh8zXjyknntJ
[01:38] <Nio_O> here
[01:38] <xangua> Homely_Girl: any modern graphical browser should manage your passwords
[01:39] <Homely_Girl> xangua, Thanks, at least I'm rid of the annoying keyring prompt now, :)
[01:39] <RNeville> hello want to install nvidia proprietary driver for video card; should I run sudo apt-get update first, or similar command?
[01:39] <Homely_Girl> precise, Aren't you lucky, I get to go away now! lol
[01:39] <precise> Homely_Girl: Why?
[01:39] <Homely_Girl> Thank you collectively for your brains guys 'n gals!
[01:39] <Bashing-om> Homely_Girl: Naw not me as genius . I just been araound a bit . As to saved passwords . I do not expect this to have any effect - that be a different thing .
[01:39] <Homely_Girl> precise, Bashing-om solved my issue
[01:40] <precise> You aren't a nuisance lol
[01:40] <precise> This is a support channel
[01:40] <Homely_Girl> Bashing-om, U know more than me, you're a genius to me!
[01:40]  * xangua puts Bashing-om on a lamp
[01:40] <Homely_Girl> Is there an online course or something I can do to learn more about command line Ubuntu/Linux? :)
[01:40] <fred911> RNeville: if you go to software and updates and click on the additional drivers tab it will do it for you.
[01:40] <Bashing-om> Homely_Girl: LOL .. Ok . I take that then .
[01:40] <Nio_O> precise help
[01:41] <precise> Nio_O: I am here :P
[01:41] <Bashing-om> !terminal | Homely_Girl
[01:41] <precise> Nio_O: What version of Windows are you dual booting with?
[01:41] <ryanprior> I'm writing my first systemd unit for a service called home-row-control that I want to run when a user starts a session. If I log in and run `systemctl --user start home-row-control.service` it starts up fine, but it doesn't start on login. Can anybody help me troubleshoot?
[01:41] <RNeville> yes, fred911, thx; but I believe Bashing-om advised me once, to run "sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade" before installing proprietary driver
[01:42] <Homely_Girl> Bashing-om, I know a little like apt-get but I want to know more. :)
[01:42] <Nio_O> w10 exactly i dont know
[01:42] <ryanprior> I put more info in a GitHub issue - https://github.com/ryanprior/home-row-control/issues/7
[01:42] <precise> Nio_O: Ok, so when you boot up, you want to go into your UEFI interface and turn off fastboot.
[01:42] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, tldp has bash guides
[01:42] <fred911> RNeville: I don't remember but I think the Nvidia drivers are in a different repo..
[01:42] <fred911> let me look
[01:42] <Bashing-om> Homely_Girl: wanting to know is how it all starts . Hang in there and it will come .
[01:43] <RNeville> thx fred911
[01:43] <Homely_Girl> Bashing-om, I'm just happy I'm in a Windoze free zone!! lol
[01:43]  * precise has to use Windows for work
[01:43]  * precise cries
[01:43] <Nio_O> i have bios not uefi, .. where i can find it ?
[01:43] <fred911> RNeville: software and updates will automaticall do it for you, but it can't hurt if do it..
[01:43] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two, What is tldp?
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/   http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[01:44] <RNeville> thx, very much fred911
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> The Linux Documentation Project
[01:44]  * nx9010 is a gamer, so forced to Windows (also for work)
[01:44] <precise> Nio_O: When you turn on your computer, it should prompt for a key press, generally either Esc or an F key.
[01:44] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two, Thanks, I'll use my loads of free time 'n have a read! :)
[01:44] <precise> Nio_O: What brand is your computer?
[01:45] <Nio_O> mb gigabyte, other i dont know, this is 7/5000
[01:45] <Nio_O> Composition pc
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.. but I understand. the console is a very large topic. I don't mean to drop books in your lap, but solving your own problems while using the terminal is the best way, but takes a lot of time too.
[01:46] <xangua> Nio_O: what's wrong with your custom PC?
[01:46] <precise> Nio_O: Just reboot the computer and look towards the upper and lower edges of the splash screen of your BIOS for a prompt to get into your BIOS.
[01:46] <Bashing-om> 16.04.2 iso close ! "
[01:46] <Bashing-om> 16.04.2 iso close ! "< infinity> tsimonq2: There'll be an email in a few minutes. ;) "
[01:47] <Nio_O> ok so turn off fast boot right ?
[01:47] <fred911> Are there any Pulseaudio/ALSA experts that know how to install an additional audio output profile?
[01:47] <xangua> Bashing-om: new kernel available?
[01:47] <tsimonq2> Bashing-om: sent
[01:47] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, if you're just looking for a few more utilities to learn to up your game, how about grep, awk, and sed
[01:47] <precise> xangua: She is trying to mount a Windows volume in her dual booted Linux OS, she is getting an error I belive to be caused by Fastboot where ntfs-3g won't mount the Windows partition as there is an issue with ntfs-3g and UEFI/BIOS Fastboot.
[01:47] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: :)
[01:47] <Nio_O> precise: i dont know what is the fastboot, so turn off him ?
[01:48] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two, So wot are they?
[01:48] <RNeville> which driver should I install, please: Nvidia version 367.57 (proprietary, tested) or
[01:48] <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-February/004036.html
[01:48] <tsimonq2> Bashing-om: ^
[01:48] <RNeville> version 340.101 (proprietary)
[01:49] <precise> RNeville: I had major issues with the Nouveua drivers on my Dell Precision M4500, had to go with the proprietary ones :/
[01:49] <RNeville> thx precise
[01:49] <precise> Yup, it may have gotten better though
[01:49] <precise> That was about a year ago
[01:50] <fred911> RNeville:  I use 340.101 without issue
[01:50] <RNeville> Vouveau driver seemed to work fine on my machine, until I tried to run lightworks NLE
[01:50] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, they are text utilities. grep is good for searching and filtering. sed and awk are for text processing.
[01:50] <precise> Yeah, with my Precision M4500, it wasn't even starting up Unity, it was horrible :P
[01:51] <RNeville> fred911, I'll try 340.101 - just didn't understand why it's not marked as "tested"
[01:51] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two, I'm glazing over again!! lol
[01:51] <precise> RNeville: Because no one tested it and reported back :P
[01:52] <RNeville> okay, sounds simple enough, precise
[01:52] <precise> Homely_Girl: You'll get it eventually :P
[01:52] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two, Baby steps how do I change dir on commandline and list directories?
[01:52] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, oh sorry. you're very new?
[01:52] <Seven_Six_Two> ok.  cd is change directory
[01:52] <Homely_Girl> precise, Are you patronisingly patting me on the head! lol
[01:52] <fred911> I see it marked as proprietary and tested (340.101
[01:52] <precise> Homely_Girl: The way I learned the Linux CLI and Bash was by forcing myself to do as much as I could by CLI.
[01:52] <precise> lol no?
[01:53] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two,  Yes in terms of not doing more than apt-get on commandline, but been a Linux user for years now.
[01:53] <RNeville> interesting fred911
[01:53] <RNeville> don't understand why my machine showing something else for (340.101)
[01:54] <fred911> precise: sometimes it's hard to communicate that to many new users
[01:54] <JennaE> I have an HP Intel Notebook. I recently had a 7265 Wireless Driver Card installed. I cannot figure out how to install the driver I need for it. I downloaded the file but its asking me to copy the files into a distribution specific firmware directory, /lib/firmware. I have no idea what that means!!! I need someone to explain to me step by step what to do after I installed the files. I need to install the driver because I would
[01:54] <JennaE> like to have Wfi !! Currently can only get internet via an Ethernet cord. Any help would be appreciated !
[01:54] <precise> Homely_Girl: man pages are your friend. If you ever are trying to use a command and don't know what it does or the syntax, just do >man [command] for the command manual :P
[01:54] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, ok. the first command you need to know is     man
[01:54] <precise> fred911: Yeah, I know, I don't talk to many people about Linux outside of the internets :P
[01:54] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, that will get you the manual for any command that has a manual page. eg... man ls
[01:55] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, try      $ man ls
[01:55] <Nio_O> fast didnt help ..
[01:55] <Nio_O> fastboot*
[01:55] <precise> Nio_O: Did you find the option?
[01:55] <RNeville> I think the "man" pages, in general, are cryptic - especially for newbies
[01:55] <linearlogic123> I accidentally change the sudoers file and I throwing some catch on line 9 and 10. http://pastebin.com/XXDxcFzw
[01:55] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, read it all, and open another terminal and try out different options
[01:55] <Nio_O> i found quiet boot fast boot nope
[01:55] <precise> RNeville: True
[01:56] <RNeville> I think a few actual examples in the "man pages" would be a great help for newbies
[01:56] <precise> Nio_O: Can you please be a bit more descriptive?
[01:56] <Seven_Six_Two> RNeville, some of it is. but not all of it, and some commands a lot more than others. ls is pretty basic
[01:56] <precise> RNeville: The good man pages do have examples at the bottom :P
[01:56] <kantlivelong> i just went from 14.04 to 16.04 and now my audio is very delayed
[01:56] <kantlivelong> anyone know if this is known issue?
[01:57] <RNeville> glad I'm not the only one that thinks "man pages instruction are cryptic for newbies, precise
[01:57] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two, I'll do that, thanks. :) I didn't have to type the $ sign, but I figured that out!
[01:57] <Seven_Six_Two> RNeville, yeah, examples would definitely help! but they are there, and ignoring them is inconvenient
[01:57] <precise> RNeville: :P We all started at the bottom :P
[01:57] <RNeville> "man pages/"man pages"
[01:57] <Nio_O> i said i didnt find the options but i found "quiet boot"
[01:58] <RNeville> yes, I think it is great that the "man pages" are there with just a simple command like "man" Seven_Six_Two
[01:58] <precise> Nio_O: Sorry, my options are exhausted and so am I, long day :P Hopefully someone else in the channel can help you.
[01:58] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two, Thanks for your mentoring, but I think it's a tech overload for me now, I'm going to sleep! Hope I don't lose this info!! lol
[01:58] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, sure! other commands to read the man pages for, and experiment, are: cd ls mkdir rmdir grep cat less touch df
[01:59] <fred911> Nio_O: I'll try
[01:59] <fred911> Nio_O: have you tried to mount the partition are read only?
[01:59] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two, I printed this screen to refer back to! :)
[01:59] <Homely_Girl> Good night all you brains!! :)
[01:59] <Seven_Six_Two> Homely_Girl, good night!
[02:00] <Nio_O> I thought i didnt
[02:00] <Homely_Girl> Seven_Six_Two, Night Brains
[02:00] <Homely_Girl> precise, Thanks for trying.
[02:00] <precise> Homely_Girl: ;)
[02:00] <Nio_O> precise: ty for efford
[02:00] <Nio_O> *t
[02:01] <fred911> Nio_O: the reason it won't let you access it is because it think's it will mess up the partition if it writes to it. If you mark the access as read only you should be able to access it
[02:01] <Nio_O> just command tell me please, i ll try it, i want just the files from windows
[02:02] <fred911> Nio_O: hold on
[02:02] <xheart> hi everyone
[02:02] <xheart> is there a way to set my pc to restart and log on without asking for the password?
[02:02] <xheart> ubuntu 16.04lts
[02:03] <RNeville> question: looks like I could down load a driver for something involving Processor microcode
[02:03] <Seven_Six_Two> xheart, there should be by modifying your login settings. sorry, I'm using another dist right now
[02:03] <Nio_O> kk
[02:03] <xheart> where do i set this option?
[02:03] <Seven_Six_Two> there's a login preferences app
[02:04] <RNeville> reads exactly like this under Software & Updates: Processor microcode firmware for AMD CPUs' from amd64-microcode (proprietary)
[02:04] <xheart> is there a sudo command?
[02:04] <RNeville> should I try this previously mentioned driver? please
[02:04] <Seven_Six_Two> xheart, click to open your unity panel, and type "login" and it should appear
[02:05] <xheart> untiy panel?
[02:05] <Seven_Six_Two> the button on your panel that lets you find apps and stuff
[02:05] <Seven_Six_Two> top left maybe?
[02:06] <Nio_O> fred ?
[02:06] <xheart> user accounts
[02:06] <Seven_Six_Two> I don't think so. maybe in "settings" panel
[02:06] <Nio_O> fred991 ?
[02:07] <xheart> yes!
[02:07] <xheart> thank you seven six two!
[02:07] <Seven_Six_Two> xheart, you're welcome!
[02:07] <fred911> RNeville: it's usually the newest microcode for your CPU
[02:08] <Seven_Six_Two> I guess I should try Ubuntu once in a while.
[02:08] <RNeville> fred911, don't know what microcode is, so I really don't know if I should upgrade this driver
[02:10] <fred911> RNeville: it's so your unique CPU has the latest ability.. I always update it
[02:10] <RNeville> thx, fred911
[02:10] <b0t> I have a big problem, -bash: /usr/sbin/newaliases: No such file or directory
[02:10] <fred911> it's like a unique driver specifically for your cpu
[02:10] <b0t> how to fix it?
[02:11] <wedgie> b0t: what are you doing when you get that error?
[02:11] <RNeville> just switched to new Nvidia driver (340.101) ; should I restart my computer, to make sure drive works correctly?
[02:11] <b0t> Recompile my aliases, newaliases
[02:11] <RNeville> Lightworks not working correctly with this previously mentioned driver, but haven't restarted my computer
[02:12] <nerdsville> Hey guys, quick question.. does ubuntu have support for the fingerprint reader on the dell precision 7510?
[02:12] <fred911> RNeville: I would, your machine will run faster
[02:12] <nerdsville> If so which driver do I use?
[02:12] <RNeville> k
[02:12] <fred911> graphica should be better...ect less CPU tax
[02:12] <RNeville> thx fred911
[02:13] <fred911> Are there any Pulseaudio/ALSA experts that know how to install an additional audio output profile?
[02:15] <nerdsville> Also has anyone noticed a popping noise when logging in? And the mouse freezing for 2 seconds when opening the settings menu?
[02:15] <nerdsville> Could just be my computer I suppose
[02:15] <fred911> nerdsville: mine clicks when the driver is loaded on boot
[02:16] <fred911> nerdsville: but I route audio out HDMI so I don't know if it's an issue here or not
[02:16] <nerdsville> kk, yeah I don't hear it any other time so not a huge deal
[02:16] <nx9010> might wanna check your ram somehow with software nerdsville or am I being paranoid?
[02:16] <nerdsville>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[02:16] <nerdsville> Mem:          64318        1480       61321         386        1515       61930
[02:16] <nerdsville> Swap:         65423           0       65423
[02:17] <nerdsville> My RAM is more than good lol
[02:17] <nx9010> no, not what i mean
[02:17] <fred911> nx9010: its a the driver loading on my system or sending out to the audio system
[02:17] <cfoch-always> hi
[02:17] <cfoch-always> how do I turn on mysql service in Ubuntu 16.04
[02:17] <nerdsville> systemctl start mysqld?
[02:18] <nerdsville> need to find the daemon name
[02:18] <nx9010> test it i meant but fred911 might be right :D
[02:18] <fred911> nerdsville: is mysql installed ?
[02:18] <nerdsville> Oh I was responding to cfoch-always
[02:18] <cfoch-always> systemctl vs service?
[02:18] <schultza> how do i manually add a static route (temporary) for an ipv6 route via an ipv4 gateway?
[02:19] <nerdsville> It uses systemd I believe now :)
[02:19] <cfoch-always> nerdsville: are you talking to me?
[02:19] <nerdsville> schultza: I use ip route
[02:19] <nerdsville> yeah cfoch-always
[02:19] <schultza> it says it is expecting an ipv6 address for the gateway
[02:20] <nerdsville> there should be ip6 route too I think
[02:20] <nerdsville> maybe not hold on
[02:20] <nx9010> Hahaha why do I always think of a movie when people ask Are you talking to me?
[02:20] <nerdsville> Which command are you running schultza?
[02:21] <nerdsville> nx9010, could you link me to more info on that? Also I noticed even after enabling subwoofers, the bass isn't that good
[02:21] <nerdsville> It was better on the native windows install
[02:22] <nx9010> nerdsville, I am kinda new to Linux but I guess there are people here how to check if ram is still good.
[02:22] <nerdsville> ah, yeah I don't know what ram is :s
[02:23] <nx9010> Might just be a driver problem, using a generic driver or missing a driver maybe? I am good at repairing windows installations but really new to using Linux for more than just a media center
[02:23] <fred911> nx9010: when I system boots, the driver loads, my internal speakers are turned off and I hear a click through my audio which is HDMI
[02:23] <schultza> $ip route add 2602:xxx::0/32 via xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (x's are for privacy)
[02:23] <nx9010> Maybe there is a way to keep digital audio on a keep-alive signal, anyone here know?
[02:24] <schultza> Error: inet6 address is expected rather than "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx".
[02:24] <nerdsville> schultza: not sure if the ipv4 address can be used to route ipv6 traffic
[02:24] <nerdsville> Not 100% sure on this
[02:24] <fred911> nx9010: Kodi has a setting to send inaudible audio to keep it alive
[02:24] <schultza> 6rd is based on routing ipv6 traffic on ipv4 networks.
[02:25] <nerdsville> Ah, yeah this is a bit beyond me :)
[02:25] <nx9010> fred911, yes that is what I mean, maybe that can be used on Ubuntu somehow?
[02:25] <schultza> any ipv6 ppl in this room?
[02:25] <nerdsville> I will let you know if I find something
[02:25] <schultza> thanks, nerdsville
[02:26] <fred911> nx9010: I do, kodi runs via HDMI on my tv on Ubuntu
[02:26] <nerdsville> http://www.litech.org/6rd/
[02:26] <nerdsville> schultza: try adding :: to the front?
[02:27] <nerdsville> ::IPv4
[02:27] <nx9010> fred911, That's good! I have it on as well. Having issues with my media center under Xubuntu atm , can't get the right drivers for my Asrock ION 330 so it's failing to play media files under Kodi
[02:28] <fred911> nx9010: on a P4?
[02:28] <nx9010> fred911, No, it's an other system
[02:28] <nerdsville> Also can you do ip tunnel help schultza
[02:28] <fred911> ah.. ok
[02:28] <nerdsville> see if 6rd is there
[02:28] <datguy1> hi all. im trying to mount a drive but it wont give. here's the output of fdisk -l https://dpaste.de/HYdr
[02:28] <nx9010> I use this laptop for IRC mainly now
[02:28] <datguy1> i want to mount /dev/sda1
[02:28] <Photon> X-Plane does not support the Gallium driver stack. -- Trying to install X-Plane. Is there a fix?
[02:29] <fred911> nx9010: what media files fail and how and are you using Krypton?
[02:29] <fred911> what fails
[02:30] <nx9010> fred911, I seem to be unable to use the gpu under Kodi, so no hw accelerated video support.
[02:30] <coffeeguy> hi how-to update to 16.04.2?
[02:30] <nerdsville> Oops seems schultza got kicked from the ipv6 stuff :s
[02:30] <fred911> nx9010: the Ion 330 is an Nvidia chipset?
[02:31] <fred911> nx9010: I mean what type of video card/gpu..ect
[02:34] <nerdsville> I found the name of the fingerprint reader, it is Control Vault, is there driver support for these?
[02:34] <nerdsville> lsusb doesn't seem to recognize it
[02:35] <fred911> nx9010: you need to install the Nvidia drivers
[02:36] <Photon> X-Plane does not support the Gallium driver stack. -- Trying to install X-Plane. Is there a fix? AMD Radeon R7 250
[02:37] <nx9010> Yes, correct. fred911 , it's a dual core, overclocked to 2.0 Ghz stable with a bigger fan and 4 Ghz DDR2 800 Mhz memory. It's a nettop cpu/gpu combination, called the ION 330 chip.
[02:38] <fred911> nx9010: just read about it, are the drivers installed?
[02:41] <nx9010> fred911, I have been having issues trying to get the right driver. I will have to look into it tomorrow and come here for help, I'm currently on a laptop next to my bed because I am physically ill right now haha
[02:42] <fred911> nx: it seems to have good driver support
[02:44] <nx9010> fred911, yes :D before I was able to play 1080P 3D mkv files easily, streaming them over my network. It had no stutters. It's old, and I wish I had more money to replace it but since Im gonna stick with my 1080p tv for a while I'm okay with it right now
[02:47] <nx9010> I am able to buy a secondhand AMD processor with mobo and ram for 60 euro, the FX-8320 black edition, so 8 cores at 4 Ghz, only need some cheaper gpu that's silent..
[02:49] <nx9010> Might make it into a server as well, since it is so overpowered for a media center.. just not sure if it's a power efficient CPU, knowing how AMD is usually draining more watts compared to Intel
[02:55] <RNeville> hello, just installed proprietary Nvidia driver, now my Ubuntu 16.04 install will not boot
[02:56] <RNeville> thinking a I need a recovery disk to reinstall default open source driver
[03:00] <cfhowlett> RNeville, nope.  just reboot into the nomodeset option
[03:00] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | RNeville
[03:02] <RNeville> thx cfhowlett
[03:02] <cfhowlett> happy2help! RNeville
[03:05] <RNeville> I'm not using nouveau driver, using nvidia proprietary drive,
[03:06] <cfhowlett> RNeville, understood, still you can't boot in, right?  nomodeset will let you bypass your current settings so you can get in and change things.
[03:06] <RNeville> k, cfhowlett
[03:08] <drjam> do you know how to get that happening RNeville ?
[03:09] <RNeville> trying to read https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 now, drjam
[03:09] <RNeville> drjam, not sure I'm completely following these link to instructions
[03:10] <cfhowlett> I believe it's reboot, hit esc after the splashscreen and edit your grub boot settings
[03:11] <RNeville> k
[03:11] <cfhowlett> drjam, ?
[03:11] <kantlivelong> weird
[03:11] <kantlivelong> pulseaudio crashes
[03:13] <kantlivelong>  im having a weird issue where pulseaudio crashes when getting too many IM sounds?
[03:14] <Photon> X-Plane does not support the Gallium driver stack. AMD Radeon R7 iirc. Does anyone have a solution?
[03:15] <locyber> !BigTruck Five Finger Death Punch - Wash it all Away.mp3
[03:15] <Photon> Also tmux just broke
[03:15] <Photon> fml
[03:25] <drjam> cfhowlett, one sec, checking
[03:25] <drjam> too many tabs, phone calls and customers haha
[03:25] <cfhowlett> I understand
[03:26] <drjam> ah yeah, that link.... makes it all look much more complex than it is
[03:26] <cfhowlett> yep.
[03:26] <drjam> overwhelming is the term for me
[03:26] <drjam> :)
[03:27] <drjam> right so, im not totally sure where your up to with it.... can you boot? hit escape or.... i had to hit TAB for some diustros
[03:28] <cfhowlett> RNeville, you still with us?
[03:28] <drjam> for live distros, i hot TAB, and only ADDED the nomodeset word.... not at the end, about 2 words in from the end
[03:30] <RNeville> yes, cfhowlett
[03:30] <cfhowlett> RNeville, drjam has more nomodeset experience than I.
[03:31] <drjam> haha probably BARELY more
[03:31] <austin__> trying to install modprobe in xenial.   I keep getting E:unable to locate package install
[03:32] <austin__> I assume I need to update the /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Anyone know a good default source to add in there?
[03:32] <drjam> austin__, have you done sudo apt update
[03:32] <RNeville> going to try and use control e at when choosing kernel to modify grub and add nomodset (think this is what linked to instruction suggest)
[03:32] <cfhowlett> austin__, install modprobe? no need.  modprobe is packaged in ubuntu.
[03:32] <RNeville> getting ready to reboot
[03:32] <drjam> gl RNeville
[03:33] <RNeville> running off a cloned external HD, at the moment, but will try to modify grub when booting off internal primary HD
[03:33] <Colombo> Is there suggested way how to have secured password in .bashrc for proxy?
[03:33] <austin__> cfhowlett: I can't seem to find it
[03:33] <RNeville> thx drjam
[03:33] <cfhowlett> austin__, open a terminal.  type in        man probe
[03:33] <cfhowlett> man modprobe
[03:34] <cyberspectre> On Ubuntu 16.04, alsa has stopped working. Pulseaudio does not communicate with sound cards, only bluetooth
[03:35] <austin__> cfhowlett - No manual entry for modprobe
[03:35] <cfhowlett> austin__, what does lsb_release -d      say
[03:36] <austin__> Description:   Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[03:37] <austin__> cfhowlett: I'm working in a Docker image, fwiw.  Not sure if it's a stripped down container or what's going on
[03:37] <cfhowlett> austin__, that's why ...
[03:38] <austin__> cfhowlett: ahh, I guess I'm back to updating sources.list then?
[03:38] <cfhowlett> austin__, I've not deal with docker or other stripped down images.  ask the channel here or perhaps the #docker channel
[03:39] <austin__> cfhowlett: ok, any ideas what a good package source is anyhow?
[03:40] <cfhowlett> austin__, the default sources.list should be adequate.  I'm surprised that doesn't work in your case.
[03:46] <austin__> different question if anyone knows.  How would I go about creating a fake audioinput device to trick Chrome into thinking that I have a microphone?  (Skype freaks out on me when it can't find a microphone)
[03:47] <austin__> I keep reading about modprobe sound-aloop, but I'm not sure what it does, exactly
[03:56] <Bashing-om> RNeville: You spinning your wheels, no traction - to get nomodeset ?
[04:05] <mva> hi there! Advice me, please, who can I contact (I mean the person, not a maillist) about missing tinc of 1.1 branch in any version of ubuntu? Even debian has it, but ubuntu - do not (for years already)
[04:05] <cfhowlett> mva, it doesn't work that way ...
[04:06] <mva> cfhowlett: which? I just wanted to point tinc maintainer on existance of new version, and ask him to add it too
[04:07] <mva> since there is many "yummy" things in comparsion with 1.0 branch
[04:10] <cfhowlett> mva, see the following for maintainer info:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/tinc
[04:12] <guest9246> Hi guys and gals!!
[04:12] <guest9246>  hey
[04:13] <cfhowlett> topic here is ubuntu support guest9246.  ask your question or jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:15] <guest9246> Okay
[04:15] <mva> cfhowlett: I did look. And there is some "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" specified as maintainer. With maillist address as email. And I guess that if I subscribe there, I'll get tons of unneded emails. But if I don't (and just send an email), It is a chances I will not receive an answers :-/
[04:16] <nhbinh> test
[04:16] <cfhowlett> yes there is that chance.  or you might send a msg to the ubuntu-developer list
[04:17] <nikolam> I get this trying to update 16.04LTS: dpkg: error: unable to open/create status database lockfile: No space left on device
[04:17] <nikolam> But I know I have penty of space
[04:17] <cfhowlett> nikolam, df -h | pastebinit
[04:18] <chaotix> hi.  i am using lubuntu 16.04, and chromium web apps are showing up under the chromium icon instead of their own in the launcher bar.  i know that there is a fix to this, some line of text added or commented out of a file somewhere, but I can not for the life of me remember what that is, and i am apparently not googling it correctly as to find the forum post where i learned this fix before, can someone help me?
[04:18] <nhbinh> who
[04:18] <mva> nikolam: and `df -i` too (it is chances you're out of inodes)
[04:19] <cfhowlett> nhbinh, the topic here is ubuntu support.  ask your questions here or jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offotpic
[04:19] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:19] <nhbinh> ok, sorry
[04:20] <nikolam> mva, cfhowlett : https://bpaste.net/show/1a012b0939ef
[04:21] <nikolam> System is on BTRFS SSD , data, file images for KVM are  is on mirrored ZFS
[04:21] <cfhowlett> nikolam, my theory was that you had no space left due to old kernels.  clearly not the case here.
[04:22] <nikolam> I think last time I updated was in December or something like it, gotta check
[04:23] <mva> eeerm...
[04:23] <mva> nikolam: can you also paste `df -T / /home`?
[04:25] <nikolam> nothing special there but yes. https://bpaste.net/show/2d4bc5915bca
[04:26] <RNeville> still haven't got nomodset to work when booting
[04:26] <Guestie> is reject_unauth_pipelining a security issue in Postfix?
[04:28] <mva> ok. Unfortunatelly, I'm not a guru with btrfs, but... can you also post `btrfs filesystem usage /` then?
[04:29] <mva> nikolam: and. by the way, be ready that there is chances you have already-broken fs, that magically still not failed ;)
[04:29] <nikolam> https://bpaste.net/show/139d45587181
[04:29] <RNeville> trying to following these directions to set nomodset , but can't seem to get this done : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[04:30] <nikolam> mva, I made BTRFS snapshot before trying to update and I rebooted after trying to update. You think i should do BTRFS fsck?
[04:31] <mva> nikolam: strange... And what if you'll try to `touch /moo && (test -e /moo && echo success || echo fail); rm /moo`?
[04:32] <Bashing-om> RNeville: In small steps; reboot and as soon as the bios screen clears depress and hold a shift key . what results ?
[04:33] <nikolam> https://bpaste.net/show/b5a41fdacc26
[04:34] <RNeville> I'm not sure nomodset is my problem, I followed the instruction in the link (I think correctly
[04:34] <mva> nikolam: also, how about `snapper list`?
[04:34] <RNeville> seems to freeze once ramdisk is loading
[04:34] <nikolam> The program 'snapper' is currently not installed.
[04:35] <RNeville> used "control e" when choosing kernel to load, and then modified grub file , not sure about emacs editing though
[04:36] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Alternately then, from the grub boot menu what results with a recovery kernel ?
[04:36] <RNeville> couldn't get "control x" to save file, so I could once again use "control e" to make sure edits to grub file saved
[04:36] <RNeville> recovery kernel froze, also
[04:37] <Bashing-om> RNeville: ctl+e is not valid so far as I know . just the
[04:37] <Bashing-om> 'e' key to gain edit mode .
[04:37] <nikolam> what's this: cgmfs                                   100K     0  100K   0% /run/cgmanager/fs
[04:38] <RNeville> Bashing-om, ctl*e did bring up grub file (not sure of terminology)
[04:38] <mva> nikolam: also, post `btrfs filesystem show`, please
[04:38] <RNeville> probably shouldn't be using "grub file" terminology
[04:39] <mva> nikolam: and cgmfs is virtual fs (doesnt't take anything on your root fs)
[04:40] <roothorick> both my graphics card and my ondie are shown by xrandr --listproviders, but the outputs don't appear in the list. It's not detecting an attached monitor for that matter
[04:40] <RNeville> okay, reread instruction - should be using just "E" and not ctrl+e
[04:40] <nikolam> Hmm, something fishy there for second device.. probably I didn't unmount it after making backup.. https://bpaste.net/show/0e662fade8ef
[04:41] <RNeville> I'll trying rebooting and when bios screen disappears, I'll hold down shift key
[04:41] <mva> nikolam: > devid    1 size 57.22GiB used 57.22GiB path /dev/sde1
[04:41] <mva> gotcha!
[04:42] <nikolam> got to be btrfs snapshots, but.. I have plenty of space on sde1, even with them..
[04:42] <mva> nikolam: run `btrfs fi df /` and `btrfs fi df /home`
[04:42] <mva> nikolam: it can be out of metadata space
[04:43] <nikolam> https://bpaste.net/show/209d12879eef
[04:43] <nikolam> wth
[04:44] <mva> yeah. Metadata is more than 75%. It can produce out of space ;)
[04:44] <nikolam> but...
[04:44] <mva> (yeah, enjoy your shiny btrfs)
[04:45] <mva> and the probably (!) fix is: `btrfs fi balance start -dusage=5 -v /home` and `btrfs fi balance start -dusage=5 -v /`
[04:45] <nikolam> let me check this with #btrfs or something. If it is only that..
[04:45] <mva> and wait until it will finish ;)
[04:45] <nikolam> what dusage does?
[04:46] <mva> The -dusage=5 bit means only chunks that are at most 5% used will be relocated.
[04:46] <nikolam> it can't balance, no data left on device..
[04:47] <mva> otherwise you can wait for rebalancing for eternity
[04:47] <mva> uhm...
[04:48] <mva> nikolam: so, you can also ask on #btrfs for advices how to cleanup snapshots *and* rebalance metadata in current situation :)
[04:48] <nikolam> will do mva, thanks
[04:49] <roothorick> lovely, nvidia blob driver bug breaks DPMS on DisplayPort devices
[04:49] <nikolam> I will clean some snapshot, yet i am sure there's plenty of space (snapshots shoudl not take space).
[04:53] <RNeville> Bashing-om, when I hold "shift" key after bios screen I get screen where I can choose Ubuntu or advance
[04:53] <RNeville> I choose advanced and then press "E" to modify grub
[04:54] <mva> nikolam: btw, http://marc.merlins.org/perso/btrfs/post_2014-05-04_Fixing-Btrfs-Filesystem-Full-Problems.html
[04:54] <mva> > Balance cannot run because the filesystem is full
[04:54] <mva> take a read ;)
[04:54] <RNeville> set nomodset then used F-10 to boot using grub
[04:54] <nikolam> huh, thanks mva
[04:55] <nikolam> just about to delete some snapshots
[04:55] <RNeville> then got the following: Booting a command list Loading Linux 4.4.0-62 generic Loading initial ramdisk
[04:55] <RNeville> then computer freezes
[04:56] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Nope .. the advanced (recvovery) also has nomoedset in it . .. Ya want the latest normal kernel selected as boot and then press the 'e' key for edit mode .
[04:57] <RNeville> Bashing-om, I thought I choose the lastest kernel
[04:58] <RNeville> I didn't use a recovery mode option,
[04:58] <Guest54869> hey can anyone helps me i have some issue in ubuntu....network issue
[04:58] <Bashing-om> RNeville: In advanced is the recovery kernel .. ok ? you want at this time to work with the normal kernel .
[04:58] <RNeville> chose/choose**
[04:59] <RNeville> I believe I worked with the normal kernel, I know I'm a little off on terminology, but chose standard kernel
[05:00] <RNeville> I did go under "Advance" but didn't choose a recovery mode kernel
[05:00] <Bashing-om> RNeville: K ... then we get the boot parameters scren when e is preseed . in this sckeen is a line starting with linux containing quiet splash . What release are we working with ?
[05:00] <RNeville> maybe, I'm missing the point, Bashing-om ; maybe your trying to tell me I shouldn't have went under "advance" at all
[05:01] <RNeville> 16.04
[05:01] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Yeah .. I think I have said that 3 times, no ?
[05:01] <RNeville> yes, got to line linux containg quiet splash and added nomodset
[05:02] <RNeville> okay, just everything is so confusing - maybe just to me
[05:02] <RNeville> I'll try on more time, then calling it a night
[05:03] <RNeville> thanks for help Bashing-om , anyway
[05:03] <Bashing-om> RNeville: OK ! .. replace quiet splash with nomodeset - so we see the boot messages . key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process .
[05:03] <RNeville> k
[05:04] <RNeville> rebooting now
[05:11] <cfoch-always> hi
[05:11] <cfoch-always> I have this error with mysql
[05:11] <cfoch-always> https://dpaste.de/kx1d
[05:11] <cfoch-always> sometimes my mysql server doesn't work
[05:12] <cfoch-always> could you give me a hand?
[05:12] <cfoch-always> or a foot, please?
[05:31] <ill_logic> Could somebody help me with ecryptfs and logging in? I just installeda new Ubuntu Server on top of an old one, keeping my home partition.
[05:32] <reb> ill_logic: i can
[05:32] <ill_logic> I set up a new password when I installed. Not surprisingly, when I log in my home dir is encrypted.
[05:32] <ill_logic> I run the manual command and I can decrypt it.
[05:32] <ill_logic> Back in the day, it would have the same password as my login, and automatically decrypte.
[05:33] <ill_logic> How do I bring it back to that state? The explanations online are not straightforward.
[05:33] <ill_logic> It seems like Ubuntu must have hacked something together, and I don't know exactly how to re-hack it.
[05:33] <ill_logic> reb: Thank you.
[05:34] <phi_> can i ask linux mint question here?
[05:35] <reb> Give details
[05:35] <nikolam> I now have problem with dpkg/pulseaudio.. https://bpaste.net/show/a90a7fdf2a73
[05:35] <reb> on my mail
[05:36] <reb> tayson85@bk.ru
[05:37] <Bashing-om> !mint | phi_
[05:38] <reb> ill_logic:tayson85@bk.ru
[05:39] <nikolam> https://bpaste.net/show/46e10bdcb2f7
[05:39] <ill_logic> I'd rather just get help here.
[05:40] <nikolam> ill_logic, be sure to have backups. make new user on new install and/or rename previous hoem dir to something else
[05:40] <nikolam> Find some docs on mounting old encryped home and copy data to a new one
[05:41] <ill_logic> Hmm. You know, that's what I did before, isn't it.
[05:41] <ill_logic> So, the answer is make a new user.
[05:42] <ill_logic> Eh, okay.
[05:42] <ill_logic> Thanks, I guess I'll do that.
[05:42] <ill_logic> Kind of sad that that's all that they've come up with.
[05:43] <nikolam> ill_logic, don't get me by the word, must be more clever way there, but Backups should not be tied to a solution/platform anyway, so copying them to new user is always safe bet
[05:44] <^Mike> What does ubuntu use for time synchronization? I don't see ntp or ntpdate installed...
[05:44] <^Mike> (I'm running 16.04)
[05:45] <nikolam> ^Mike, I see there are ntp packages to install
[05:45] <^Mike> Sure, but the OS must already have something doing time sync, right? I wouldn't want to double-up.
[05:47] <nikolam> sure, don't know personally, but ic could be that time syncronizing by default might upset someone's privacy/e.g. reveal up location.
[05:48] <^Mike> oh, ubuntu uses systemd now, right? I bet systemd ate ntpd
[05:49] <^Mike> `$ sudo systemctl status time-sync.target ` reveals all
[05:49] <^Mike> well, some :P
[05:50] <ill_logic> nikolam: I did make backups before reinstalling. So that's covered regardless.
[05:51] <ill_logic> So, I just changed my password back to the same password I had before (which matches my ecryptfs password) and it now decrypts automatically on login.
[05:51] <ill_logic> I bet that if I change my password back now, it'll change my ecryptfs password as well.
[05:52] <ill_logic> bam, there it is.
[05:52] <ill_logic> Thanks for the inspiration :-D
[05:52] <ill_logic> Now we both know better.
[05:52] <ill_logic> Okay, cheers.
[05:52] <nikolam> yup that could be it ill_logic
[05:52] <nikolam> hah
[05:54] <^Mike> well, I just installed ntp on the assumption that "conflicts" or "replaces" or something would be set appropriately
[05:55] <^Mike> nothing seems to have broken
[05:55] <^Mike> yet
[05:55] <Bashing-om> ^Mike: Does terminal command ' timedatectl ' help ? My result: http://termbin.com/wrw3 .
[05:59] <NemosCene21> Try our Pied Piper compression platform guys!
[06:01] <NemosCene21> Try our Pied Piper compression platform guys!
[06:01] <niggard> hi
[06:01] <niggard> is './dir/script.sh' a relative path?
[06:02] <niggard> is it always relative to the $HOME or not at all?
[06:03] <Ben64> "." = current directory, so yes, that is relative
[06:03] <Bashing-om> niggard: The shorthand './' says the script in this here present directory .
[06:03] <niggard> thanks
[06:07] <cfoch-always> hi
[06:07] <cfoch-always> for some reason
[06:07] <cfoch-always> my mysql server doesn't work sometimmes
[06:07] <cfoch-always> *sometimes
[06:07] <cfoch-always> could you give me a hand please?
[06:10] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: be a little most specific on doesn't work mean exactly. can't connect won't start, crashes....
[06:16] <cfoch-always> B105PH3RE: https://dpaste.de/K066
[06:16] <cfoch-always> sure ^
[06:17] <Invinci> In-vincible
[06:19] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: does your mysql log have any extra info
[06:19] <Invinci> join #tor
[06:20] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: was this a fresh install or it just started doing this all of a sudden and also what release are you using version mysql version?
[06:20] <Invinci> join #torr
[06:20] <B105PH3RE> you forgot the / at the beginning Invinci
[06:21] <cfoch-always> B105PH3RE: mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.7.17, for Linux (x86_64) using  EditLine wrapper
[06:21] <Invinci> really sorry I am noob..
[06:21] <B105PH3RE> itsa ll good
[06:21] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: so your not using ubuntu release not sure I can help but I will try
[06:22] <cfoch-always> I am
[06:22] <cfoch-always> I am using ubuntu 16.04
[06:24] <B105PH3RE> ok well then I may be able to help
[06:24] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: Is this a fresh setup or it just started happening?
[06:25] <cfoch-always> B105PH3RE: it just started happening
[06:26] <cfoch-always> but I am not sure if this is because I changed php settings or because I got wrong on one command importing datbase and I did "mysqldump -u foo -p my_db < my_db_to_import.sql"
[06:27] <cfoch-always> B105PH3RE: what do you need to see in log?
[06:27] <cfoch-always> because it is long
[06:28] <B105PH3RE> anything that would help give more error messages or problems.
[06:28] <B105PH3RE> it would be related to the mysql import you did most likely but not the php thats apache stuff should affect the mysql server
[06:29] <B105PH3RE> i'm assuming that the databases need to kept or restored?
[06:29] <cfoch-always> https://dpaste.de/skO0
[06:29] <cfoch-always> B105PH3RE:
[06:29] <B105PH3RE> wait one
[06:29] <cfoch-always> I don't want to delete anything in db if you mean that
[06:30] <cfoch-always> and it sometimes happens
[06:30] <cfoch-always> not happening now (un)luckily
[06:30] <cfoch-always> (un)luckyly
[06:33] <cfoch-always> B105PH3RE: ^
[06:33] <B105PH3RE> ok give me a few to review things
[06:34] <cfoch-always> thanks
[06:34] <B105PH3RE> its seems to be your innodb plugin thats causing the problem when's the last time you did a database intergrity check or cleaup
[06:34] <B105PH3RE> also is you system fully up to date with updates and such
[06:35] <cfoch-always> i did sudo apt-get update yesterday
[06:35] <NemosCene21> geeks shall inherit the earth!!
[06:36] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: how much ram do you have
[06:37] <cfoch-always> how can I know?
[06:37] <cfoch-always> free command, I think?
[06:38] <B105PH3RE> seems your having a memory problem allocated memory on line 61 and line 87
[06:38] <cfoch-always> https://dpaste.de/5BJq
[06:39] <B105PH3RE> use top instead
[06:40] <B105PH3RE> check what other applications are taking up memory
[06:40] <B105PH3RE> so you only have 512 mb
[06:41] <ajayahmed> Hi. On my server I run a backup script which dumps databases and website files and then zips them. This causes the entire server to lock and wait times are high and I've narrowed it down to being a journaling issue. Can I turn journaling off for the duration of the backup? If so, aside from less chance of recovery from unexpected shutdowns, is there any reasons or concerns to not do this?
[06:41] <tatertots> no geeks will work for the people who inherit the earth
[06:42] <Ben64> ajayahmed: why not ionice
[06:42] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: you need more ram or shutdown othre processes taking ram
[06:44] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: i would recommend backing up now
[06:45] <ajayahmed> Ben64 the script launches uninterruptible. I'm trying to find out how you make a process uninterruptible and then I should be able to find the line that's doing this
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> ajayahmed: the #ubuntu-server guys might also know
[06:52] <B105PH3RE> cfoch-always: use 'free -h'
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> gbellinoz: check this: http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/tips-to-improve-ubuntu-speed
[07:02] <anddam> can Launcher or Dash act as calculator?
[07:03] <anddam> and different question: does adding a google online account in System Settings automatically configure an IMAP account locally? I'd like to avoid that and just have Google Docs integration
[07:21] <alocompsci_> Anyone know why a command in startup applications wouldn't run? All of my commands are not working. I have things like: sleep 20; setxkbmap -option ctrl:swapcaps
[07:21] <alocompsci_> and sleep 20; touchegg &
[07:22] <alocompsci_> but for some reason a few days ago it stopped working and I can't figure out why..
[07:38] <kr29> '
[07:39] <kr29> g'day Ma
[07:40] <Miszczu> jkgdfhkgjdhdf
[07:41] <Miszczu> Hello
[07:41] <gbellinoz> lotuspsychje:  I appreciate that you're convinced of this and are trying to convince me.  I appreciate learning something.  But so far, you haven't explained *what* 'unneeded files' accumulate, and *how* they slow a system down.  That article you link to doesn't add much value.  It's basically stating that you need to clean out 'junk', but it's not clear the author has any real technical knowledge that would back up that idea.  And, you ha
[07:42] <gbellinoz> plus, you were asserting that there'd be application errors when there was 'junk', not that the system would run faster.  Different.
[07:43] <anddam> gbellinoz: yep, the fist few lines suggest the author has no knowledge of what's talking about, it's just a pot-boiler article to attract visitors and show some ad
[07:43] <anddam> "You have too many application installed"
[07:44] <anddam> halfway between Myth and urban legends
[07:44] <pr3p> hello
[07:44] <pimp> Heil Hitler und Das Dritte Reich!  Allle heil der allmächtige Deutsch rasse!  |  Hail Hitler and The Third Reich!  All hail the almighty German race!
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[07:45] <anddam> ducasse: it's not even funny, just sad
[07:45] <pimp> ducasse: Fuck du, Juden! | Fuck you  Jew
[07:45]  * ducasse shakes head
[07:46] <anddam> ducasse: any hint about my previous questions?
[07:46] <ducasse> pimp: your german sucks, btw.
[07:46] <gbellinoz> Drone`: Ban? ^^^
[07:46] <ducasse> anddam: which one?
[07:46] <pimp> ducasse: ICH SPRECHE SEHR GUT DEUTSCH
[07:47] <pimp> !ops | Heil Hitler und Das Dritte Reich!  Allle heil der allmächtige Deutsch rasse!  |  Hail Hitler and The Third Reich!  All hail the almighty German race!
[07:47] <DalekSec> pimp: Please don't do that here.
[07:47] <anddam> the Dash/Launcher as calculator, and the online account entry about IMAP, I'd like to add my account but not having any IMAP client configured automatically
[07:47] <pimp> DalekSec: which thing do I not do here?
[07:48] <anddam> DalekSec: dat ist gut
[07:49] <WoLf> Hello everyone, one quick (and hopefully simple) question.. How can I disable power management (hdparm -B 255) automatically on an usb drive that is not present at boot? Would /etc/hdparm.conf work for that if it's not plugged in?
[07:49] <pr3p> hello guys
[07:49] <pir8g33k> hola
[07:50] <ducasse> anddam: i don't use unity, so not really. i've seen people mention here that the dash can do simple calculations, but don't know if it requires the installation of a separate package.
[07:50] <anddam> simple search didn't brought anything relevant, I'll have another attempt
[07:50] <anddam> thanks
[07:50] <ducasse> WoLf: you could use a udev rule, i guess
[07:50] <anddam> ducasse: what do you use?
[07:50] <ducasse> anddam: you mean de/wm? i3.
[07:51] <WoLf> ducasse: I'll look into that, thanks for the lead.
[07:51] <anddam> ducasse: ah nice, I'm fascinated by tiling wm and would like to try one now that I'm full time on a linux system
[07:51] <ducasse> WoLf: look at the udev article on the arch wiki, it should have examples you can use
[07:51] <WoLf> Thanks =)
[07:51] <anddam> ducasse: but I picked a default ubuntu out of praticatility since everything worked out of the box on this laptop
[07:52] <anddam> arch wiki is very good
[07:53] <anddam> ducasse: oh my, unity-scope-calculator package
[07:54] <ducasse> anddam: sounds promising :)
[07:56] <anddam> ah turns out what I called "dash" was in fact "HUD" and what I called "Launcher" was in fact "Dash"
[07:56] <anddam> and the Launcher is the icon dock
[07:57] <ducasse> anddam: be aware that if you switch to a tiling wm (or any other standalone wm) there is a lot of stuff you need to set up and take care of yourself that just works in a desktop env.
[07:58] <anddam> mm I had unity-scope-calculator already installed but it's not working, and no docs to be checked in package
[07:58] <hateball> anddam: you could go the middle route and run KDE Plasma with something like https://github.com/faho/kwin-tiling
[07:58] <hateball> so many options. also plasma has glorious krunner that includes calculator among other things ;p
[07:59] <ducasse> anddam: gnome3 also has a tiling extension, i think it's called shellshape
[07:59] <anddam> I have no real affection for KDE
[07:59] <anddam> or GNOME actually
[08:00] <Psychonaut> anddam, enable online search to use calc scope
[08:02] <anddam> done, that's intuitive???
[08:02] <anddam> enabling online search in order to use (local) calculator
[08:03] <anddam> I see the result now, as third scope
[08:03] <anddam> is there a way to tell Dash that when a calculator scope is available then it has to be the first one?
[08:05] <anddam> and answer to self: once added the online account in System Settings there's a more fine-grained setting for each app, I just turned Evolution mail access off
[08:07] <anddam> why is Evolution the default value for Mail, Calendar and Contacts in Online Accounts if Evolution isn't installed by default on the system?
[08:07] <anddam> (but thunderbird is)
[08:08] <WoLf> ducasse: added an udev rule and it works like a charm. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.
[08:08] <ducasse> WoLf: yw :)
[08:10] <anddam> the support Google provides to linux users is unbelievably low considering the use they make of the platform
[08:10] <WoLf> This is why I love IRC (when people are active ;P) .. you can sit there spinning your wheels for hours trying to figure something out, searching and looking in the wrong place.. then you ask someone else and boom. 5 minutes and it's resolved. lol.
[08:10] <anddam> but I guess it makes sense users-number-wise
[08:10] <anddam> WoLf: also, there's LoL at the end.
[08:10] <anddam> not so much in low traffic channels where it's just frustrating
[08:11] <B105PH3RE> its the objective look at things that tends to help
[08:11] <B105PH3RE> low traffic some channels have not traffic its strange
[08:12] <anddam> fat-fingered
[08:19] <anddam> why do a few package in Ubuntu Software Center not have their description trimmed? https://dl.dropbox.com/s/t2ovg1jww4x7raz/Screenshot%20from%202017-02-17%2009-18-01.png
[08:21] <ducasse> anddam: file a bug on it if you think it should be shorter
[08:22] <anon1> hello all
[08:25] <anddam> ducasse: the point is if it's a bug or not
[08:25] <nikolam> I updated server this morning around 6-7 AM and now see that it probably tried to update to 16.04.2 that landed today and... it failed to boot after restqart...
[08:26] <anddam> ducasse: I see a few other description that are cut with ellipsis, that suggests it's a behavior of the program
[08:26] <nikolam> I got only initramfs...
[08:28] <ducasse> anddam: i don't know, but if you file a bug with examples the people who do know will tell you. personally i'd guess it's just a result of formatting/length of descriptions or something like that.
[08:30] <nikolam> So downloading 16.04.2 LTS ISO to make bootable USB to see what I can do.. (restore BTRF snapshot for a start..)
[08:32] <bikram> how configure 2 interface for ubuntu router
[08:48] <pio1> hey can someone tell me how to burn an ISO in Ubuntu?
[08:49] <pio1> I couldn't find any useful program in Ubuntu store that would do that and there doesn't seem to be any program by default
[08:50] <pio1> nevermind I think I got it
[08:50] <B105PH3RE> pio1: you could use xfburn
[08:51] <B105PH3RE> pio1: if you like console you can use dd but thats more technical
[08:51] <aula> hey guys
[08:51] <pio1> I installed brasero, I couldn't find it in Ubuntu Software but I installed it using apt-get install
[08:51] <B105PH3RE> that works too
[08:51] <pio1> I think Ubuntu Software might not display all the software to me
[08:51] <aula> hey biosphere
[08:52] <aula> whats up
[08:52] <aula> hello?
[08:53] <aula> hi anyone
[08:56] <B105PH3RE> aula hey
[08:57] <coolguy> wassup ma homies
[08:58] <eil> who use tegaki?sudo apt-get install tegaki-recognize tegaki-train tegaki-zinnia-japanese tegaki-zinnia-simplified-chinese ibus-tegaki python-tegaki python-tegakitools
[08:58] <coolguy> yo homies hows it goin
[08:58] <eil> but when i add it in ibus
[08:59] <eil> it just out of work
[09:09] <ghoti> Is there a programmatic way that I should be making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? I.e. something that'll let me say, "remove all configuration for wlan0, replace eth0 configuration with blah"?
[09:10] <Sel_fin_root> hello , what is better flatpak o snapackage ?
[09:11] <nikolam> now I wrote 16.04.2 ISo to 2GB usb and now it fails to boot... Maybe GPT wasn't seleting when creating it in |Rufus?
[09:14] <pikapikachu> \join python
[09:14]  * ghoti hands pikapikachu a /
[09:17] <zist> hello
[09:17] <zist> any body here?
[09:21] <B105PH3RE> yes
[09:25] <B105PH3RE> zist hello
[09:25] <B105PH3RE> he left nvm
[09:29] <itsgokul> sectiond 5.6 http://guides.rubyonrails.org/v4.0/getting_started.html
[09:29] <nx9010> shutdown
[09:29] <itsgokul> i get forbiddenattributes error
[09:30] <itsgokul> even after i do private def post_params..
[09:30] <PharaohSD> Sup idiots
[09:30] <itsgokul> help
[09:30] <PharaohSD> wiht what itsgokul
[09:31] <itsgokul> see section5.6 http://guides.rubyonrails.org/v4.0/getting_started.html
[09:33] <itsgokul> see my controller http://pasteboard.co/zn20PREGO.png
[09:34] <hvn> hi all, this new upgrade https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3199-1/ broke our server, same error with https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=850025 where can I report to Ubuntu dev to fix that?
[09:34] <itsgokul> error page http://pasteboard.co/zn3n2fM5q.png
[09:48] <ldsh> Hi, it seems I found something regarding my sound problem: if I reboot before powering on the headset, I have sound. (this is on an optical output of the motherboard, if I use my headset one day, it doesn't work on next reboot, but if I reboot a second time without having used it in between, it works again).
[09:50] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: what program are you using to control the output cuz I use pavucontrol to turn on the output/disable
[09:50] <elias_a_> ldsh: What kind of headset do you have if it needs powering on?
[09:52] <ruxu> Hi, I'm trying to set up a consul-based DNS server, and `dig @0.0.0.0 -p 8600 redis.service.consul` works, it returns `NOERROR` status. However, I would like to have my host resolve just by providing the redis name (i.e. `dig redis`). What should I do in order to make this work?
[09:52] <ruxu> I've added `search service.consul` to my `/etc/resolv.conf`
[09:52] <ruxu> and `nameserver 0.0.0.0`
[09:53] <ruxu> basically, this is my resolv.conf: http://pastebin.com/PGbC9MRz
[09:55] <momomo> i need an x server on ubuntu server
[09:55] <momomo> i installed tightvncserver
[09:55] <momomo> and logging in to server using ssh
[09:56] <momomo> but starting software seem not to work
[09:56] <momomo> do i need to login to the server in some other way?
[09:56] <EriC^^> momomo: where are you ssh'ing from?
[09:56] <momomo> from termina
[09:56] <momomo> l
[09:56] <EriC^^> also ubuntu?
[09:57] <momomo> yes
[09:57] <EriC^^> momomo: try ssh -X user@host
[09:57] <EriC^^> momomo: then start any gui app
[09:58] <priporg> hi looking for software to scan for deleted files...i accidently deleted a folder full of files :-(
[09:59] <EriC^^> priporg: which filesystem was it on?
[09:59] <priporg> EriC^^, it was on a usb thumb drive
[10:00] <EriC^^> priporg: ok, first stop using the usb as soon as possible, second type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" with the usb plugged in
[10:00] <dumle29> Is there a way to use a trrs headset remote in ubuntu?
[10:00] <priporg> EriC^^, ok ill try that
[10:01] <EriC^^> priporg: ok, paste the link it gives you here
[10:01] <momomo> EriC^^: i think that worked
[10:01] <momomo> however, do I need tightvnc-server to run that command?
[10:01] <EriC^^> momomo: ok, great
[10:01] <momomo> -X ?
[10:01] <momomo> or would it have worked without as well>
[10:01] <momomo> ?
[10:01] <EriC^^> momomo: yeah tightvnc isn't needed
[10:02] <EriC^^> -X is X-forwarding for ssh
[10:02] <momomo> so it would render on my laptop instead?
[10:02] <priporg> EriC^^, it says unrecognided disk label
[10:02] <EriC^^> you just need xorg installed and ssh (with Xforwarding enabled)
[10:02] <momomo> what happens when I log off from laptop?
[10:03] <matkatmusic> howdy
[10:03] <EriC^^> momomo: what do you mean?
[10:03] <EriC^^> momomo: when you exit ssh as usual it just closes everything
[10:04] <EriC^^> priporg: please paste the link here
[10:04] <matkatmusic> I'm running ubuntu in a VM on OS X.  just ran 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and now I'm presented with a pink 'grub-pc' window
[10:04] <matkatmusic> asking where to install grub devices
[10:04] <EriC^^> matkatmusic: choose the main disk
[10:04] <matkatmusic> should I install to VBOX_HARDDISK?
[10:05] <matkatmusic> it's giving me a list of 4 places to install to
[10:05] <EriC^^> matkatmusic: can you take a screenshot of the screen and upload to imgur.com >
[10:05] <EriC^^> ?
[10:05] <RxMcDonald> Hi, is it possible to make high performance C++ computations in ubuntu computer software?
[10:05] <matkatmusic> https://s14.postimg.org/mrhw6bdbl/Screen_Shot_2017_02_17_at_5_05_14_AM.png
[10:05] <RxMcDonald> I need to implement a computer
[10:06] <matkatmusic> EriC^^: https://s14.postimg.org/mrhw6bdbl/Screen_Shot_2017_02_17_at_5_05_14_AM.png
[10:06] <EriC^^> matkatmusic: first choice, /dev/sda
[10:06] <matkatmusic> ok thanks
[10:06] <anddam> RxMcDonald: it is possible
[10:07] <EriC^^> np
[10:07] <RxMcDonald> hi, how do you make a ubuntu computer to read C++ code? It's not reading it
[10:07] <sruli> in bash how can i set a variable without quotes? i.e. drive=sda when called it just inserts sda which is good, however size="-l 100%FREE" will be inserted as '-l 100%FREE' thats not good, i have to set the variable with "" as it contained -l... what would be the right way to set this variable?
[10:07] <anddam> RxMcDonald: in order to implement a computer you'd need to learn some electronics
[10:07] <EriC^^> RxMcDonald: install gcc
[10:07] <matkatmusic> https://s21.postimg.org/wqsqq9u9j/Screen_Shot_2017_02_17_at_5_06_58_AM.png EriC^^ ummm
[10:07] <RxMcDonald> I put the C++ instruction code inside the ubuntu cumputer and it doesn't read it
[10:07] <anddam> EriC^^: my money are on "trolling"
[10:07] <EriC^^> matkatmusic: press no
[10:08] <EriC^^> matkatmusic: when /dev/sda is highlighted press "space"
[10:08] <matkatmusic> ah ok
[10:08] <RxMcDonald> There is a problem with ubuntu C++ code performance for high computing systems engineering
[10:08] <matkatmusic> thanks
[10:09] <anddam> RxMcDonald: oh nice to know, what problem is it?
[10:09] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, I mainly use the default Gnome shells settings, but I also tried some other without success.
[10:09] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: are you using alsa or pulseaudio
[10:10] <k1l> RxMcDonald: stop that trolling now. you tried it the last times already. dont misuse this channel or you will get banned
[10:10] <ldsh> elias_a_, I have a wireless headset with charging station (Sennheiser RS 175). Under Windows it always works correctly.
[10:11] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, the default with Ubuntu Gnome (I think pulseaudio).
[10:12] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: i'm assuming you tried pavucontrol or not yet otherwise changing the order priority might help
[10:12] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, I had the same Issue on a fresh Archlinux also with gnome shell.
[10:12] <elias_a_> ldsh: How do you get the audio signal to the headset from the computer?
[10:12] <elias_a_> ldsh: 3,5mm line output?
[10:13] <lilred> is there any way to spawn a long-living process from my login script?
[10:13] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, I tried changing the order priority, but this did not seem to help. For now, the only thing that seems to work is to reboot without making use of the headphone.
[10:13] <ldsh> elias_a_, Optical S/PDIF
[10:13] <EriC^^> lilred: <program> &
[10:13] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: so once you use the headphones optical doesn't work anything is that whats happening
[10:13] <lilred> Eric^^: thanks, I'll try that now
[10:14] <EriC^^> lilred: there's also 'startup apps' in the dash if you're using unity
[10:15] <James_Freewall> hey guys
[10:15] <James_Freewall> my ubuntu is not working
[10:15] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, If I use the headphone one day, at next reboot I have no sound with the headphone. I need to boot (Linux), not use the headphone, than reboot (Linux), and now I have sound. Each time I use the headphone, I'll need to reboot without using it prior to have sound again.
[10:16] <James_Freewall> ldsh: can you help me??
[10:16] <James_Freewall> my net tools 4.33 doesn't work on ubuntu
[10:16] <James_Freewall> the lagswitch i'm trying to use for mw2 is not working
[10:16] <James_Freewall> :((
[10:16] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: ok I get it now so if your booting up with headphone as default then you have to switching to it is the only was it works.
[10:17] <ldsh> James_Freewall, First describe more concisely what is not working, and maybe someone who understand what's happening will be able to help you.
[10:17] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: whats the audio hardware your using lspci audio device
[10:17] <James_Freewall> fuck you dude are you trying to troll me
[10:17] <James_Freewall> i'm a marine
[10:17] <RxMcDonald> k1l: you just came out of nowhere to personally attack me instead of solving my ubuntu problems, you are not nice
[10:17] <James_Freewall> my commanding officer is looking over my shoulder rn
[10:17] <James_Freewall> he thinks you're a faggot
[10:18] <elias_a_> ldsh: Perhaps the headset base unit needs to be identified from scratch after boot.
[10:18] <elias_a_> James_Freewall: Start behaving or get out.
[10:18] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio (rev 31)
[10:18] <James_Freewall> elias_a: my headphone is picking air traffic control signals
[10:19] <James_Freewall> elias_a_ fuck off dude i'm a marine
[10:19] <elias_a_> James_Freewall: Well that is as self evident as your being both arrogant and stupid.
[10:20] <James_Freewall> elias_a_ are you fucking dumb dude i killed 2 sand dune surfers to save your lazy ass and protect your liberties
[10:20] <James_Freewall> fucking bag of dicks
[10:20] <k1l> James_Freewall: stop that attitude asap or you will need to leave this channel.
[10:20] <James_Freewall> k1l: sorry i'm a ubuntu god and you aren't
[10:20] <k1l> !guidelines | James_Freewall
[10:20] <ldsh> Drone`, I think there is need to clean from a parasite.
[10:21] <James_Freewall> ubottu: i don't need your guidlines kid i'm the author of the bible
[10:21] <ldsh> k1l, Thanks ;)
[10:21] <James_Freewall> whoa what happened
[10:21] <eck77> what is the channel name for linuxmint community?? I've some probems to get fixed :(
[10:22] <James_Freewall> eck77: it's #cicadian3301
[10:22] <k1l> James_Freewall: stick to the guidelines or be banned. your choice
[10:22] <James_Freewall> http://www.pornhub.com/information these??
[10:22] <k1l> !mint | eck77 its on another irc network
[10:23] <k1l> just for information: use the !ops trigger if such users misuse this channel to notify the ops team if no op is around
[10:23] <eck77> thanks all
[10:24] <ldsh> elias_a_ I do not know what is really happening internally. I'm already happy to have found a solution (boot twice, without using the headphone), even if not that convenient.
[10:25] <elias_a_> ldsh: Ok.
[10:25] <ldsh> k1l, Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to do when calling "Drone" ;) Good to know.
[10:27] <warlord77> can any1 tell me how to contribute to openstack
[10:27] <elias_a_> While copying a large amount of files Nautilus shows a progress windows. It however disappears when switching applications. How do show it?
[10:27] <warlord77> ubuntu
[10:27] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, and cat /proc/asound/modules
[10:27] <ldsh>  0 snd_hda_intel
[10:27] <ldsh>  1 snd_hda_intel
[10:27] <ldsh>  2 snd_usb_audio
[10:27] <EriC^^> elias_a_: try alt+tab > nautilus then alt+~
[10:29] <ldsh> elias_a_, It doesn't show any-more in a windows to me (before it was a window I could see under other windows), it is now a pie chart inside nautilus (I'm using Ubintu Gnome, I think this can be a specific feature).
[10:29] <elias_a_> EriC^^: Does not work probably because in finnish keyboard layout ~ is behind alt gr...
[10:30] <EriC^^> elias_a_: not sure it works really, was a shot that's all
[10:30] <elias_a_> ldsh: Gnome is different. I am using stock Ubuntu.
[10:30] <elias_a_> EriC^^: Thanks anyway.
[10:30] <sruli> i am having a problem with a variable in my script . size="-l 100%FREE" when i call it it adds single quotes '-l 100%FREE' how can i set this variable to not have any quotes?
[10:30] <elias_a_> I've bumped into this annoyance before but cannot recall how it was solved. :(
[10:31] <EriC^^> elias_a_: try keeping alt+tab above nautilus, does it split it to 2 windows?
[10:31] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: when its not working does it just not work at all or do you get odd sounds
[10:31] <ldsh> elias_a_, Yes, I also think it can be different. If you move the windows, you can't see the progress bar under?
[10:31] <eck77> i've deleted my configuration files frm home dirctory. now problem in opening chrome browser. how can i retrieve that config files
[10:32] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: is the devie showing pavucontrol but no output do you see a the vu meter move
[10:32] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, no sound at all from the headset, but I can have sound trough hdmi for instance.
[10:32] <B105PH3RE> 3.5mm port correct?
[10:32] <elias_a_> Here's the solution: http://www.tipsninja.com/restore-file-transfer-status-window-ubuntu/
[10:32] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, the headset is plugged on optical output (S/PDIF)
[10:33] <eck77> hi anybody thr to help me??
[10:33] <B105PH3RE> so your only having the problem with the spdif port?
[10:33] <elias_a_> eck77: Nope. :)
[10:33] <eck77> why??
[10:34] <EriC^^> elias_a_: thanks
[10:34] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, I think so, but I rarely use the others. Each time I tried to use the hdmi output it worked.
[10:34] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: did you try restart the pulseaudio after reboot
[10:35] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, which is the command to do such?
[10:36] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: well depends on your version of distro and such but usually service pulseaudio restart
[10:36] <B105PH3RE> you will have to sudo it
[10:37] <B105PH3RE> I guess work around would be to switch to another output on shutdown
[10:39] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, These are nice ideas, I'll try at next reboot (I'm currently running a code I don't want to stop now). I'll to keep you up to date to the results if you are often on IRC.
[10:40] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: do you still see a vu meter when outputing or does the output not show?
[10:41] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, Yes, when using pavucontroll, everything looks always the same, just that some of the time I hear no sound.
[10:42] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: did you try another device via spdif device other then the headset to verify its not the headset or a different optical cable
[10:44] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, It's the only device I have that can use this output. What I can compare is to Windows where it always works like expected. Which makes me think that the problem is not the cable nor the device, but something that may be linked to software.
[10:44] <momomo> did i miss an answer?
[10:44] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: have you tested it with windows recently
[10:45] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: otherwise its may be the audio syncing thats not working or startup of the device on optical or something I had some problems in the past with that
[10:45] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, But this discussion makes me wonder if I should not look on issues with my headset and linux instead of issues with my motherboard/audio controller and linux.
[10:46] <B105PH3RE> ldsh: eliminate the easy stuff first then try the harder stuff... it could be a module problem
[10:46] <ldsh> B105PH3RE, not recently, but last Friday.
[10:46] <B105PH3RE> recent enought
[10:46] <B105PH3RE> so hardwares out
[10:47] <B105PH3RE> let me sleep on it see what I can have a moment of inspiration or something
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:50] <ldsh> Hi BluesKaj I found something related to the sound problem we already discussed some days ago: If I boot, not use the headphone, than reboot, next time I have sound. 3 days it seems to work :).
[10:52] <BluesKaj> ldsh, remind me , do you have a pci soundcard as well as an onboard audio chip?
[10:53] <BluesKaj> or is this a laptop?
[10:53] <ldsh> BluesKaj, Now I have the nvidia GPU who is also working, but no dedicated soundcard.
[10:54] <snowweb> please can someone help me out with my bluetooth on ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[10:54] <snowweb> its not turned on in the network manager area
[10:55] <ldsh> BluesKaj, but don't worry too much today, I just wanted to tell you I already had a temporary workaround. I've discussed a bit with B105PH3RE and he suggested some things to try next startup. I think It's no hurry before I do these check.
[10:56] <B105PH3RE> aight peace yall
[10:59] <BluesKaj> ldsh, do you have pulseaudio installed , if so install pavucontrol as well then you can use the sttings there to make your audio output settings varaible or permanent
[11:00] <ldsh> BluesKaj, I already tried with pavucontrol, but it didn't help.
[11:01] <anddam> does Unity have some builtin featureto display monitoring info on desktop? Sort of a conky-like feature
[11:01] <anddam> s/featureto/feature to/
[11:02] <k1l> anddam: no, but you can use conky
[11:03] <anddam> k1l: sure, but if there's something builtin I'd rather use that
[11:03] <anddam> I like coherency
[11:03] <anddam> conky it is
[11:05] <k1l> anddam: indicators are the coherent way, afaik
[11:07] <alkisg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack says that to install the new stack, this command is needed:  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 
[11:07] <alkisg> But on Ubuntu Mate, this command uninstalls ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop!
[11:07] <alkisg> This command does work properly though:  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04  xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-16.04
[11:07] <alkisg> So my question is, which one should be fixed? The wiki page? The ubuntu-mate-desktop dependencies? Or the xserver-xorg-hwe dependencies?
[11:11] <k1l> alkisg: i guess the mate dependecies are wrong
[11:11] <k1l> alkisg: file a bug and then talk to the #ubuntu-mate guys
[11:13] <alkisg> k1l: ty, will do
[11:14] <anddam> k1l: noted, thanks
[11:21] <Dankness> how is everyone today?
[11:27] <warlord77> can any1 overhere tell me how to contribute to ubuntu
[11:29] <baizon> warlord77: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[11:30] <abhishek> anybody use xournal here?
[11:46] <acarroll> Anyone that can potentially help me with this error on an apt-get? 'Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/horizon/python-django-horizon_10.0.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0_all.deb  403  Forbidden [IP: 91.189.92.152 80
[11:46] <acarroll> ]'
[11:54] <ldsh> abhishek, I used it a bit. Better to tell directly what your problem is, because it's more relevant that the fact that we use the software or not.
[11:56] <ldsh> acarroll, Looks like a repository you added manually. Maybe you should look at their website if they changed anything in the way to install their software.
[11:57] <ldsh> acarroll, No, the path works. Maybe you got your IP banned or something?
[11:57] <acarroll> I am not sure
[11:57] <acarroll> what is strange is if I try to even wget the file from a mirror it fails?
[11:58] <acarroll> I added the princeton mathematics mirror to my apt-get sources and ran an update and it still gives me a 403
[11:58] <ldsh> acarroll, what does it gives to you if writing http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/horizon/python-django-horizon_10.0.0-0ubuntu1~cloud0_all.deb  in a browser?
[11:59] <acarroll> hmm it gives me a 403 again
[12:00] <acarroll> (at least from my windows install, this apt-get error is from a graphical-only)
[12:01] <acarroll> I can download other files from that directory just fine as well...but I get a 403 whenever I try to download that package, even a different version
[12:07] <Krapulat> Hello, I’m getting “Error: SSL: Stacked error: error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:ssl3_get_client_hello:no shared cipher” in dovecot after doing “apt-get upgrade”. Is it possible?
[12:08] <ldsh> acarroll, That's strange, I can download it from my browser. Seems there is some issues with authorised IP.
[12:10] <ldsh> acarroll, do you have anything in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ ?
[12:11] <acarroll> 'ls -a' shows nothing
[12:12] <acarroll> I am a tad confused...I have tried several mirrors and none will let me download the python-django-horizon package...I can download other things but not this specific package
[12:28] <Speiros> Hi folks.  Just a confirmation.  What is the maximum password length for Ubuntu?  I read somewhere 512, but I think it is half that from a comment here earlier.
[12:31] <kubanc> Hello. Is it possible to record desktop per workspacE?
[12:33] <Speiros> I just looked at other info, and it suggests that in theory, there should be no limit in password length.
[12:35] <geirha> If you use shadow file to store the password, only the hash is stored, so yes, it could be any length. But the programs that prompt for password might add arbitrary limits
[12:36] <Speiros> geirha What if I am manually typing my password?  I know it might sound unreasonable, but in theory?  Is it the same perspective?
[12:37] <Speiros> I appreciate the limits imposed by others.
[12:38] <geirha> then yes, it could be any length, since it just hashes it
[12:38] <Speiros> lol, cool.
[12:38] <Speiros> Thanks geirha
[12:39] <Speiros> geirha As long as signing on doesn't take 8 hours, my employee would be happy, right?:D
[12:42] <geirha> Do I smell an aprils fool? "We had to change everyone's password, here's your new one" and they get the new password as an A4/letter page full of characters?
[12:42] <Speiros> lol, sounds quite good to me:P...at least for others.
[12:43] <Speiros> And all including symbols, and mathematical formulae.
[12:43] <Speiros> Maybe a page from "Advanced Calculus"
[12:44] <geirha> Nah, you only need two characters. 0 and O
[12:44] <dbristow> Yay, 16.04.2 finally was released.
[12:44] <Speiros> :D
[12:45] <beaver> @find ldap.conf
[12:45] <beaver> !find ldap.conf
[12:45] <gmh2> I removed a drive from madam raid 1 on ubuntu 14.04 its and now I am stuck in initramfs. Followed this guide until the "shutdown -h now" part https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/linux-raid-replace-failed-harddisk/
[13:02] <raub> How do you know if you ar erunning ubuntu or plain debian without using lsb_release?
[13:02] <ducasse> raub: check if ubuntu-minimal is installed?
[13:04] <hateball> raub: cat /etc/issue
[13:07] <bhofidika> Hello
[13:07] <bhofidika> I just connected two monitors with My cpu using vga splitter
[13:08] <bhofidika> How to seprate display ?
[13:08] <bhofidika> I don't want both to unify.
[13:09] <ducasse> bhofidika: with a regular vga splitter i'm not sure you can - afaik it just duplicates the signal
[13:10] <bhofidika> Then How to seprate ?
[13:11] <ducasse> bhofidika: you need two separate video outputs
[13:11] <bhofidika> But it isn't possible. There is only 1 vga port in my CPU ?
[13:12] <ducasse> bhofidika: then your only option is a video card
[13:12] <bhofidika> ducasse, you mean graphic card ?
[13:13] <ducasse> bhofidika: yes
[13:14] <bhofidika> Which one to buy ?
[13:14] <bhofidika> Since I am using dual core processor with 4GB ram
[13:15] <ducasse> bhofidika: i don't know, but make sure it has at least two outputs
[13:18] <bhofidika> ok thanku
[13:21] <cfoch-always> hi
[13:21] <cfoch-always> how can I restore default php.ini?
[13:27] <farshid_> hello
[13:27] <Speiros> You rang?
[13:28] <tomreyn> cfoch-always: you could backup all files created by the package ("dpkg -L php7"), purge and reinstall the package.
[13:33] <z1haze_work> I have this `PS1=$'\[\e[38;5;203m\]\W \u28ff\[\e[0m\] '` on my current terminal, and I want to change colors, but I did this so long ago I am having trouble translating this to know where I need to change. Can anyone please help?
[13:34] <z1haze_work> i just want to change the colors in this is all i want to do
[13:34] <EriC^^> z1haze_work: what color do you want
[13:35] <z1haze_work> Can it be a custom color?
[13:35] <z1haze_work> like and rgb?
[13:35] <Speiros> Cya
[13:36] <EriC^^> z1haze_work: 256 colors i think
[13:36] <z1haze_work> oh! ok i found a little cheat sheet, that makes since now. thank you
[13:37] <EriC^^> z1haze_work: ok, no problem
[13:38] <cfoch-always> tomreyn: tomreyn I think that php7.0 doesn't include php.ini
[13:46] <tomreyn> hmm probably php-common or something then.
[13:47] <tomreyn> cfoch-always: you can check using dpkg -S /etc/php7.0/php.ini # or whatever the path to php.ini is.
[13:59] <Guest63310>  how to backup my apps/softwares installed in my system?
[13:59] <EriC^^> !aptoncd | Guest63310
[14:00] <Guest63310> can i just copy bin lib etc directories to an external drive and reinstall system?
[14:01] <ppf> why would you copy bin or lib?
[14:01] <Guest63310> to save my apps
[14:01] <k1l> Guest63310: you can save a list of intsalled packages and save the /etc and /home folder.
[14:02] <ppf> +1
[14:02] <k1l> Guest63310: why save apps that can be reinstalled from the repos easily?
[14:02] <Guest63310> oh i see
[14:02] <Guest63310> so i just need to save the repositories?
[14:03] <ppf> no, you save your data, not your programs
[14:03] <k1l> the ubuntu repos dont need to be saved. you just need to save the list of packages you got from the ubuntu repos.
[14:03] <Guest63310> how to save ppts?
[14:03] <k1l> dpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list
[14:04] <k1l> then on the new system run"sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/Package.list"  and it will install the same pacakges again"
[14:06] <Guest63310> it says permission denied! do i need to run sudo dpkg?
[14:06] <k1l> yes
[14:06] <Guest63310> even after using sudo it says permission denied
[14:07] <Guest63310> can i forward it to my home directory?
[14:08] <yeats> Guest63310: copy and paste your commands and output into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and share the link
[14:08] <EriC^^> Guest63310: dpkg --get-selections | sudo tee /home/dir/..
[14:08] <yeats> (obscure any private information)
[14:08] <Guest63310> thank you very much, so helpful command k1l
[14:08] <k1l> Guest63310: is your users home directory set to be owned by root?
[14:08] <k1l> EriC^^: i guess he ruined his home directory already before
[14:09] <EriC^^> k1l: yup or using another account or something
[14:09] <Guest63310> can i do this:  chmod +777 /home
[14:09] <k1l> or missed the ~
[14:09] <EriC^^> Guest63310: are you doing it from your user?
[14:10] <OerHeks> y
[14:10] <yeats> Guest63310: don't do that - do 'sudo chown -R username:username /home/username' (replacing 'username' with your actual username)
[14:10] <Guest63310> gotcha
[14:11] <Guest63310> well that dpkg thing generates a list of apps in my system
[14:11]  * yeats wonders if we're being trolled
[14:12] <Guest63310> so i just need to do this?
[14:12] <Guest63310> sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/Package.list
[14:12] <Guest63310> and the system will understand?
[14:13] <Guest63310> i ran this in the same system and nothing happened
[14:13] <afilca> hallooooooooo
[14:14] <Guest63310> #yeats #k1l
[14:14] <k1l> Guest63310: yes, when you put that file in the users home directory.
[14:15] <k1l> for the settings to be stored copy the users home folder and the /etc folder
[14:15] <Guest63310> i ran this in the same system and nothing happened
[14:15] <Guest63310> #k1l
[14:15] <k1l> because that list is already installed.
[14:15] <k1l> there is no difference
[14:15] <Guest63310> anyway thank you k1l
[14:16] <Guest63310> how not to ruin my root directory #yeats #k1l
[14:32] <dannyLopez> Hi, I have 2 monitors connecteds, and 1 external video card and 1 internal video card, so, when connect the 2 monitors, only one detects my X, and the other works only when I change to TTYs. How can I do the 2 monitors works at the same time?
[14:37] <w9qbj> dannyLopez, Have you looked at Preferences -> Displays
[14:38] <dannyLopez> w9qbj: Yes, but only detect one monitor.
[14:39] <Guest43536> hello
[14:39] <Guest43536> how to use this?
[14:41] <hehe>  Guest43536: what?
[14:41] <dannyLopez> Guest43536: 1 Ask in one line, 2 wait a answer.
[14:41] <josef_> ch
[14:41] <Guest43536> hello
[14:46] <hehe> dannyLopez: what DE are u using?
[14:48] <hehe> there's an option saying "configure new displays when connected". I'm using XFCE4
[14:48] <hehe> dannyLopez: there's an option saying "configure new displays when connected". I'm using XFCE4
[14:50] <jeees> Quit:
[14:51] <jeees> quit
[14:53] <WoLf> Hello everyone, I'm having a bit of an issue.. I just configured a wifi connection on a laptop, it negotiates with dhcp and is assigned an address, but I have no network access on it.. I don't seem to find anything wrong with the settings. What should I check for troubleshooting it?
[14:55] <hateball> WoLf: can you not ping anything on the local network, or how are you determining network access?
[14:55] <meec> wold: can you ping anything on the network? is the gateway answering? do you have mac addresses on the arp table? can you ping your own ip address?
[14:55] <meec> wolf, sorry
[14:55] <hateball> what meec said ;d
[14:56] <WoLf> can't access 10.0.0.1 (router), can't ping anything
[14:56] <meec> WoLf no even yourself?
[14:56] <WoLf> can ping same machine, yes.
[14:57] <dannyLopez> Hi, I have 2 monitors connecteds, and 1 external video card and 1 internal video card, so, when connect the 2 monitors, only one detects my X, and the other works only when I change to TTYs. How can I do the 2 monitors works at the same time?
[14:57] <meec> WoLf is firewall off?
[14:57] <meec> I mean, in the local computer
[14:57] <meec> just to discard it
[14:57] <WoLf> Going to try flushing iptables, one sec.
[14:57] <hateball> dannyLopez: X only works with one card at a time
[14:58] <hateball> dannyLopez: for the same session that is... you could spawn a new session on not-tty7 and assign that to a certain chipset
[14:59] <meec> WoLf, let me know then
[14:59] <dannyLopez> But, why works in the laptop?
[15:02] <WoLf> meec: I just noticed something while pinging to check after flushing iptables. it tries to connect from the wired address, which is not connected.
[15:02] <meec> dannyLopez probably because laptop has only one graphic card and it is aware of both screens at the same time
[15:02] <meec> WoLf so it is a routing problem then
[15:02] <meec> you might need to play with network mask or subnets to avoid that
[15:03] <WoLf> Thanks, I'll look further into that
[15:04] <meec> you are welcome WoLf, if you need more help, let me know
[15:06] <WoLf> meec: I might =) if I can't figure it out on my own, I'll ask for more directions =)
[15:09] <hateball> WoLf: with ping you can use -I to specify interface to use
[15:09] <hateball> WoLf: to make sure you're testing the right thing...
[15:14] <koleygr> Hi, I wonder if there is a bug to say that affects me about unity bar that doesn't always when login... I know hoe to fix it and I have already fix it through csm... but may be is good to say it affects me so it will fixed soon
[15:14] <koleygr> *doesn't always load
[15:14] <ducasse> !bug | koleygr
[15:15] <Guest13649> hello all i have issue if i try to connect in my unity session when i can to do this in console tty, need help
[15:15] <Dreaman> !unity8
[15:16] <koleygr> ducasse: I don't have thebug now... I have fixed it... I just can't find the bug to say that affects me
[15:17] <koleygr> And I have helped some people to fix it but no one of as found the bug to say it affects us
[15:17] <ioria> koleygr, your panel is a standard one or you have added something ?
[15:19] <koleygr> ioria: I added compiz-settings-manager after the problem to solve it
[15:19] <koleygr> I had nothing before
[15:19] <koleygr> I think it has to do with nvidia too
[15:19] <ioria> koleygr,  you added compiz-settings-manager to the panel ?
[15:20] <koleygr> not to the panel
[15:20] <koleygr> sorry
[15:20] <koleygr> nothing on the panel
[15:20] <koleygr> had the problem just after fresh installation
[15:20] <koleygr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1363421
[15:21] <koleygr> may be has to do with this... but it is expired
[15:22] <ioria> koleygr,  that it for a  daily build ....
[15:22] <ioria> *'s
[15:22] <ioria> koleygr,  14.10 ?  i don't think so
[15:22] <koleygr> no
[15:22] <koleygr> I have 16.04
[15:23] <ioria> koleygr, but you posted is for a 14.10 daily build
[15:23] <koleygr> I just havent fount the bug for 16.04
[15:23] <koleygr> Sorry... this is the only I found with the same problem
[15:24] <koleygr> I just can not find a bug on 16.04 to say it affects me.. and I helped three more people to solve it... but may be nobody reported that as a bug
[15:25] <ioria> koleygr, check your logs   ~/.xsession-errors , syslog and dmesg
[15:26] <koleygr> ioria: http://pastebin.com/T8f9w3fc
[15:27] <koleygr> but this is not from me...
[15:27] <koleygr> it is from the last man I helped
[15:27] <RxMcDonald> Hi, anyone knows how to install norton anti virus in ubuntu? I'm having a little trouble
[15:28] <koleygr> RxMcDonald: Usually you don't need one... what is your problem?
[15:28] <RxMcDonald> koleygr: my ubuntu computer got computer hacked very hard
[15:29] <RxMcDonald> so now I want to install information security systems on it
[15:30] <anddam> koleygr: he's trolling, again
[15:30] <koleygr> anddam: thanks
[15:32] <WoLf> meec: Alright, I might need some help. I tried setting wired to dhcp but no difference, I get a route with wifi only if I ifdown both networks and ifup wifi first.
[15:33] <WoLf> when I do that, I have full network access, internet and all, so it works.
[15:33] <koleygr> ioria: I have fixed my problem since 5/16... But I can reinstall to reproduce and report the problem
[15:34] <meec> are you trying to connect the computer to the same gateway over cable and wifi?
[15:34] <ioria> koleygr,  i see
[15:34] <WoLf> Correct, I'm trying to unplug cable, turn on wifi, have network.
[15:38] <koleygr> Ioria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[15:38] <koleygr> ioria: this is how I solve it
[15:39] <koleygr> but not a bug reported there
[15:39] <dannyLopez> meec: Ill try in the secon port of mi external video card. :)
[15:39] <nmap-ss> hey hey!
[15:40] <OerHeks> koleygr, yes there is, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+bug/1285444
[15:41] <meec> WoLf the reason might be that you are receiving the same subnet/IP information over cable and wifi, that will make your computer a little bit crazy when it is trying to connect to the internet, you need to use then only 1 interface, no both at the same time
[15:42] <WoLf> meec: There is no way to automate that? I have to manually ifdown the interfaces to switch, as it is right now.
[15:42] <OerHeks> koleygr, lots of users that come here, fixed it with "Issue for me was ~/.Xauthority was owned by root, changing back to $user or removal fixed it"
[15:43] <ztane> why oh why, when I am purging a kernel image because of out of space in /boot, does it have to *recreate* the initrd for the very kernel that I am *removing* :(
[15:43] <meec> WoLf you might be able to do it for sure, but, I don´t have an inmediate solution because when I have that issue I just disable the wifi or the nic by hand, it is only 2 seconds
[15:44] <koleygr> OerHeks: Did you show the log file?
[15:44] <koleygr> Is it the same bug?
[15:44] <meec> I am sure you are not the first one facing that problem and you can find a solution over it
[15:44] <koleygr> Because I just have to say my friends I helped to sy it affects them
[15:44] <ermajn> hello, I'm having trouble to debug service start script of carbon-cache installed by chef. When I do command "service carbon-cache start", I got output that service is not started, how can I debug this more?
[15:44] <meec> as an approach you might want to develop an script, load it with cron and check if the ethernet nic has link with mii-tool or similar, in which case you can trigger the wifi or not
[15:45] <WoLf> meec: Alright, I appreciate the help, you've steered me in the right direction and at least now I have a much narrower range to search for troubleshooting =)
[15:45] <OerHeks> koleygr, you found the fix, so you can help them. you might want to check out the owner of .Xautority too
[15:46] <WoLf> That might actually be a good idea. it's always plugged in when I'm at the desk, and if I unplug the cable, I will need wifi.. so that check might just work fine.
[15:46] <meec> mii-tool was for fastethernet nics
[15:46] <koleygr> OerHeks: thank you very much
[15:47] <meec> for gigabitnics is ethtool
[15:47] <meec> check both
[15:47] <WoLf> Alright =)
[15:48] <meec> if cable is plugged then wifi down, otherwise wifi up <- convert that to an script and run it by cron should work. That is an approach
[15:48] <WoLf> On an unrelated note.. I never realized how much I hated the new change in interface names (like enp3s0 and wlp2s0 instead of eth0 and wlan0) until I had to type them a hundred times in the past hours. lol.
[15:50] <w9qbj> agree with WoLf,  is there an easy way to go back to eth wlan names?  They make more sense.
[15:51] <WoLf> it should be a parameter in grub if I remember correctly.
[15:51] <ducasse> WoLf: you can use tab expansion for interfaces in many/most cases
[15:52] <cristian_c> hello
[15:52] <WoLf> ducasse: that saved my sanity =P but I still had to type it manually editing /etc/network/interfaces
[15:52] <cristian_c> I'd like to make avrcp profile working on my bluetooth headset, I mean: media buttons located on the headset
[15:52] <cristian_c> I've looked at bluetoothctl info output and avrcp is listed as available for the device
[15:52] <OerHeks> w9qbj, you can go back, but i would get used to it http://askubuntu.com/questions/785848/ubuntu-16-04-complicated-interface-names  >> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[15:53] <cristian_c> what methods could I try in order to find the issue?
[15:53] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[15:55] <pchoo> hi all, could anyone point me in the right direction to setting up my laptop to dual boot two copies of the same distro? (I'm using ubuntu gnome and I want to test some graphics related things without affecting my work set up)
[15:59] <yao_ziyuan> i'm running wine 1.8.5 in ubuntu 16.10. i run two exe apps with wine, one being Freegate, the other being Ultrasurf (both are free tools to bypass china's great firewall).
[15:59] <yao_ziyuan> a small problem is that Ultrasurf's icon on ubuntu's unity sidebar is rendered as the same as Freegate's icon.
[15:59] <yao_ziyuan> what could be the cause that one exe app shows up using another exe app's icon?
[15:59] <anddam> yao_ziyuan: a wrong .desktop file?
[16:00] <anddam> or bad default icon
[16:01] <anddam> yao_ziyuan: isn't there an open source equivalent?
[16:01] <anddam> I'd be wary of any closed source program claiming to help privacy
[16:02] <yao_ziyuan> anddam: tor?
[16:02] <anddam> I don't really know, but sure
[16:05] <yao_ziyuan> problem solved.
[16:06] <mohit> hi
[16:06] <mohit> gg
[16:06] <yao_ziyuan> in ~/.local/share/applications, delete fg_exe.deskotp and u1603_exe.desktop;
[16:06] <yao_ziyuan> in ~/.local/share/icons, delete fg_exe.png and wine.png
[16:10] <koleygr> pchoo: you have just to install the new distro in a new partition and then to change two files to shown with different names
[16:11] <pchoo> koleygr: Ok, I can probably repartition and install to the new partition, which files do I need to change?
[16:12] <kur1j> I installed minimal Ubuntu 16.04 on Virtualbox, when it booted up into the console for the first time the login text and information was orange/yellow. However, when I rebooted it seemed to go back to its white/offwhite grey color. Was there a reason for this?
[16:13] <astronaut_> I'm trying to extract a .rar folder in Ubuntu, but I get "Parsing filters is unsupported.", what do I do to fix this?
[16:13] <astronaut_> Is there an error with the folder itself?
[16:14] <Sel_fin_root> hello!!
[16:14] <koleygr> pchoo:  /etc/default/grub the line: GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` to GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="NewUbuntuOrNameYouWant"
[16:15] <koleygr> pchoo: then sudo update-grub
[16:16] <pchoo> koleygr: Thanks, I'll look into that.  As another question, is it possible to repartition an encrypted drive?  I have full disk encryption on my SSD
[16:17] <koleygr> pchoo: then /etc/lsb-release the line DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 16.04 LTS" to DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="NameYouWant"
[16:17] <koleygr> pchoo: you need both files changed
[16:17] <pchoo> koleygr: Thanks, I'll note that down for the future!
[16:18] <koleygr> pchoo: Wait for someone else about encrypted partitions... I have no idea
[16:19] <koleygr> I just lock my room :P
[16:19] <pchoo> koleygr: Haha, thanks, work laptop, so potentially sensitive data on it :P
[16:20] <WoLf> meec: Do you think ifplugd ( http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/ifplugd.8.html ) would serve my situation? it seems to do what I need, detect status of cable and trigger ifdown/up accordingly.
[16:20] <kierqueen> hi
[16:20] <kierqueen> my disks show no partition ? WHY
[16:20] <kierqueen> although fdisk and gparted do show it ?
[16:22] <EriC^^> kierqueen: what disk
[16:22] <kierqueen> gnome-disks
[16:22] <EriC^^> kierqueen: maybe a bug? what are you trying to do to start with?
[16:22] <amirhossein> hi
[16:23] <pavlos> kierqueen, can you try, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX | nc termbin.com 9999 (where X is your drive
[16:23] <amirhossein> how can i hack instagram
[16:23] <anddam> amirhossein: with a lot of passion and dedication
[16:23] <anddam> amirhossein: also you need to learn hacking
[16:24] <OerHeks> amirhossein, wrong channel dude, and wrong network.
[16:24] <amirhossein> thanks
[16:24] <koleygr> amirhossein: Just find another girl and let her alone :P
[16:25] <OerHeks> lets get back to ubuntu support please, thanks.
 koleygr: Thanks, I'll look into that.  As another question, is it possible to repartition an encrypted drive?  I have full disk encryption on my SSD
[16:26] <koleygr> OerHeks^ you know to help here^
[16:27] <kierqueen> http://termbin.com/o71r
[16:28] <kierqueen> pavlos
[16:29] <OerHeks> pchoo, resizing can be a hassle, old wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[16:29] <kierqueen> pavlos: Are you there, I posted the data, that you asked
[16:35] <pavlos> kierqueen, 4 partitions, an extended (300G) and within that, 3 Linux (25G, 100G, 100G). Why the extended is marked bootable, idk. I do not see a primary partition nor a swap.
[16:35] <kierqueen> No, it's an extended partition, and I didn't mark it as bootable , you know ?
[16:35] <kierqueen> I think ubuntu did it, on it's own
[16:36] <kierqueen> pavlos: Is it not necessary to boot , it
[16:36] <kierqueen> pavlos: how does nc work in posting the data, on to the site ?
[16:37] <kierqueen> It's about connections, not posting the data
[16:37] <kierqueen> Does it make my pc vulnerable, by opening tcp connections
[16:37] <pavlos> kierqueen, no, it does not. This command is if ppl do not have pastebin
[16:38] <kierqueen> So you do gave me a pastebin terbin.com
[16:39] <kierqueen> And again, shouldn't I have let the partition been bootable ? I didn't touch it, its there on it's own, and I think it will stop booting, if not
[16:39] <pavlos> kierqueen, either you install pastebinit or you can use this nc thing (read http://termbin.com/)
[16:40] <kierqueen> pavlos ok
[16:40] <mynameis> hello!
[16:40] <mynameis> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu 14.04.5, I can't log in after installing fglrx amd driver
[16:40] <kierqueen> But I can't create a luks partiton, as whenever I use gnome-disks it says that 1TB of free space !!
[16:41] <mynameis> logging in without gui works though so I was able to download irc client and I'm using it right now :/
[16:41] <pavlos> kierqueen, I have have experience with LUKS, maybe someone else can help
[16:41] <pavlos> kierqueen, I dont
[16:42] <kierqueen> pavlos: kk
[16:43] <kierqueen> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1c0c2a253b694aa3d701da7a4a24d345 I also cannot work with sage after installation
[16:43] <mynameis> anyone had the problem where they can't log in after installing graphics drivers?
[16:44] <kierqueen> What could be the reason that sagemath is not working ?
[16:44] <sudormrf> so neither open-vm-tools nor vmware tools are letting me automatically get screen resolution/size right.  workstation 12.5 pro and 16.10.  anyone run across this before?
[16:45] <mynameis> sudormrf maybe you need to install graphics drivers?
[16:46] <sudormrf> mynameis, I have never had to do that before.  on workstation 11 this wasn't an issue.  one difference there is I changed my monitors to 4k panels and I am wondering if it is confusing things
[16:46] <sudormrf> and the graphics card isn't pass through anyway
[16:47] <mynameis> what do you mean?
[16:47] <sudormrf> the VM doesn't know my graphics card exists
[16:47] <sudormrf> vmware tools includes the necessary drivers (typically)
[16:47] <sudormrf> so does open-vm-tools
[16:47] <mynameis> but Ubuntu installed in it does, doesn't it?
[16:47] <sudormrf> when you try to install vmware tools it tells you that open-vm-tools is recommended
[16:48] <sudormrf> ?
[16:48] <sudormrf> the tools package include them
[16:48] <mynameis> I'm not sure if I understand what your issue is. What version of Ubuntu do you have and what gpu?
[16:49] <sudormrf> 16.10 running as a guest
[16:49] <sudormrf> my VMs don't know my GPU exists
[16:49] <mynameis> maybe you need to install the drivers for that guest system?
[16:49] <sudormrf> they don't see it
[16:49] <sudormrf> I don't follow what you are saying
[16:49] <Dreaman> vodeo card is
[16:49] <mynameis> I'm not an expert but doesn't the guest system see you video card?
[16:49] <sudormrf> I already said it doesn't
[16:50] <Southern_Gentlem> your vm should never talk directly to the host hardware
[16:50] <pchoo> OerHeks, koleygr: Thanks for that, I'll have a read!
[16:50] <Southern_Gentlem> that is a point of breakage of the isolation between the 2 if they do
[16:50] <mynameis> hm I see
[16:51] <sudormrf> aaannnnnddd I think I found the problem
[16:51] <sudormrf> with someones help from the vmware channel
[16:51] <sudormrf> trying it now
[16:52] <mynameis> does anyone what to do when I can't log in to ubuntu after installing gpu driver?
[16:53] <mynameis> I only can log in without graphics interface
[16:53] <de-facto> Hey guys, i was asked about which video editor would be best for editing screencast tutorial videos: well i never used any, i just guessed KDEnlive, yet any opinions: are there better alternatives for GTK?
[16:53] <Dreaman> save mode
[16:53] <Dreaman> advanced grub save mode kernel ala bala
[16:54] <Dreaman> :)
[16:54] <Dreaman> mynameis  your card is
[16:54] <tomreyn> mynameis: uninstalling the driver and any leftovers and rebooting should usually work.
[16:54] <mynameis> Dreaman thanks could you tell me how to access boot settings?
[16:54] <mynameis> my card is Radeon R7 250x and Ubuntu 14.04.5
[16:55] <Dreaman> reboot
[16:55] <mynameis> I would like to fix the driver if possible instead of uninstalling it
[16:55] <michal__> Hello all
[16:56] <Dreaman> mt card is 4830
[16:56] <Dreaman> radeon
[16:56] <Dreaman> but i use free driver
[16:56] <mynameis> the default one?
[16:56] <Dreaman> yes
[16:56] <mynameis> I'm trying to deal with this problem since yesterday
[16:56] <mynameis> I installed ubuntu and none of available drivers work
[16:57] <mynameis> with the default one only low resolution is available
[16:57] <mynameis> today I installed ubuntu 14.04.5 to try fglrx but now I can't log in
[16:57] <Dreaman> mynameis  your ubuntu is old
[16:58] <Dreaman> 16.04
[16:58] <folatt> My phone was turned into a brick after an update.
[16:58] <mynameis> yes I know but fglrx doesn't work on 16.04 and above and other drivers didn't work
[16:58] <michal__> hello, anyone know how to install vlc on newest ubuntu?
[16:58] <folatt> I can't start it anymore.
[16:58] <nicomachus> Dreaman: 14.04.5 is still supported.
[16:58] <folatt> Bq Aquarius E4.5 version 37
[16:58] <nicomachus> folatt: your phone? You're in the wrong channel for that.
[16:58] <nicomachus> what's the OS on the phone?
[16:58] <folatt> Which channel should I go to?
[16:59] <folatt> Ubuntu Touch
[16:59] <nicomachus> #ubuntu-touch then
[16:59] <Dreaman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24014431/    mynameis  see
[16:59] <folatt> nicomachus, thanks
[16:59] <Dreaman> my system
[16:59] <Aleric> Hello, I just did a 'apt-get upgrade' on ubuntu "stable" and now my kde desktop stopped working. '/usr/bin/plasmashell' returns an error and a popup saying "All shell packages missing.
[16:59] <Aleric> This is an installation issue, please contact your distribution"
[17:00] <mynameis> Dreaman I can't see an images right now because I'm on lynx text browser because of the gui problem I described earlier
[17:01] <nicomachus> mynameis: he linked a pastebin... it's just text. but it also doesn't matter. have you tried the open source radeon driver?
[17:01] <mike602> Aleric: so do you just need to reinstall "shell packages?" that may fix it?
[17:02] <mynameis> nicomachus with the default only screen resultions available for me are 800x600 and 1024x768
[17:02] <mynameis> with the default driver
[17:02] <nicomachus> mynameis: odd. what resolution are you trying to get to?
[17:02] <Aleric> mike602: How would I do that?
[17:02] <mynameis> anything above 1024x768 would be nice for start :)
[17:02] <Dreaman> mynameis  settings
[17:03] <Dreaman> try to fix
[17:03] <nicomachus> mynameis: ok but what resolution is your monitor?
[17:03] <nicomachus> Dreaman: you are giving bad advice. please stop.
[17:03] <mynameis> 1280x1024
[17:03] <mike602> Aleric: not 100% sure, but prob need to reinstall KDE?
[17:03] <nicomachus> mynameis: are you booted into it now with the radeon ddriver?
[17:04] <nicomachus> there's also a new OS driver, amd-gpu or something, that's available on 16.04
[17:04] <mynameis> yes I am booted into in now, but with the fglrx amd driver that broke my system
[17:04] <nicomachus> yea I've never had luck with that driver.
[17:04] <mynameis> yeah I tried amdgpu-pro on 16.04 and 16.10 and it didn't make any difference, my card is probably not supported in that one
[17:05] <mynameis> and since open source driver doesn't change anything either
[17:05] <mynameis> it seems that I'm left with no working drivers
[17:05] <mynameis> fglrx is my only hope so I switched to 14.04.5
[17:05] <nicomachus> mynameis: the amdgpu-pro is targeted at the R9 series. You said you're on R7?
[17:05] <mynameis> yes r7 250x
[17:06] <nicomachus> ok. I still think the `radeon` driver is going to be your best bet.
[17:06] <nicomachus> works perfectly on my (albeit older) Radeon HD 6450
[17:06] <mynameis> nicomachus it's the one installed by default isn't it?
[17:07] <nicomachus> I don't remember, honestly.
[17:07] <mynameis> because I have tried the default one and also the one from oibaf's repository
[17:07] <mynameis> and both of them limit my resolution to 1024x768
[17:07] <nicomachus> You can switch to it from System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[17:07] <nicomachus> and then the resolution issue is a whole different deal that can be handled through xrandr
[17:07] <mynameis> oh really?
[17:07] <nicomachus> should be.
[17:08] <mynameis> so you think the radeon driver actually works?
[17:08] <nicomachus> we can check, if you don't mind switching to the radeon driver and rebooting real quick
[17:08] <mynameis> with my card
[17:08] <mynameis> yeah sure, but right now I'm in text mode so I would probably go into safe mod in order to be able to do that?
[17:08] <nicomachus> I'm not the driver expert, but I'm not sure if ikonia or BluesKaj are available atm
[17:09] <Dreaman> mynameis  just upgreat ubuntu 16.10
[17:09] <nicomachus> Dreaman: stop
[17:09] <nicomachus> you are giving bad advice.
[17:09] <mynameis> Dreaman it doesn't work in ubuntu 16.10
[17:09] <Dreaman> 16.04 lts
[17:10] <mynameis> Dreaman I tried that too
[17:10] <nicomachus> just ignore him. he doesn't know what he's talking about.
[17:10] <raj__> h
[17:10] <raj__> very intresting
[17:10] <mynameis> nicomachus what if readeon driver isn't on the list in software > additional drivers?
[17:10] <nicomachus> then we have a whole new list of problems.
[17:11] <mynameis> ok I will check it out now
[17:11] <mynameis> one more thing how do I get into safe mode in ubuntu?
[17:11] <Aleric> sean:~>ls -l /usr/share/plasma/shells
[17:11] <Aleric> ls: cannot access '/usr/share/plasma/shells': No such file or directory
[17:11] <Aleric> What package is that?
[17:12] <nacc> Aleric: `apt-file` is probably your friend
[17:12] <mynameis> nicomachus or should I uninstall the current driver from text mode?
[17:12] <nicomachus> mynameis: no need to uninstall it.
[17:12] <nacc> Aleric: plasma-desktop-data, plasma-mediacenter, plasma-sdk, at least on 16.10
[17:13] <mynameis> do you know how to get to boot settings during boot?
[17:13] <Aleric> Hmm, yeah, but which one... Where can I see a history of what has been removed lately by running 'apt-get auto-remove'? I think this might have gotten corrupted because auto-remove deleted a package that I needed.
[17:13] <nicomachus> mynameis: you should be able to hold SHIFT to bring up the Grub menu
[17:13] <mynameis> nicomachus thank you, brb
[17:14] <sudormrf> open-vm-tools-desktop (didn't realize the -desktop package existed) solved the issue.
[17:14] <nicomachus> 0_o that username...
[17:14] <nicomachus> dangerous, friendo
[17:15] <nacc> Aleric: presumably you could look in the logs (/var/log/apt/history.log)
[17:16] <slee> hi, looking for a cron job gui(to make managing jobs easier), i see a few in a random search, wondering if anyone recommends a particular one?
[17:16] <nacc> slee: I would expect most people that need cron jobs are comfortable using `crontab -e`. Not really a support topic, I'd try with #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:17] <slee> thanks
[17:18] <Aleric> Yup, 'apt autoremove' removed plasma-desktop-data:amd64 a week ago.
[17:18] <nicomachus> case in point: use autoremove carefully!
[17:20] <Aleric> rebooting...
[17:21] <BadCodSmell> In ubuntu 16.10 did they turn on some special be ultra annoying about any possible error mode?
[17:22] <RNeville> hello
[17:23] <RNeville> really having problems with my other Ubuntu 16.04 computer , installed Nvidia proprietary driver, frozen computer, now
[17:23] <MrFixIt> I see that 16.04.2 was released. Is my memory off or wasn't the 4.9 kernel originally supposed to be included in this release?
[17:23] <RNeville> can't get nosetmode to work, either
[17:24] <RNeville> nomodeset/nosetmode**
[17:24] <Aleric> ok, I got my taskbar and menu's back.. but the desktop itself is still black (not icons and no background image). What could be that? :/
[17:25] <virtuosoj> Ubuntu 16.04.2 uses the 4.8 kernel right?  Why am I still on 4.4 after doing apt update apt upgrade??
[17:26] <Southern_Gentlem> did you reboot
[17:26] <Pici> virtuosoj: did you do an apt full-upgrade ?
[17:27] <nicomachus> MrFixIt: there have been some setbacks in the 16.04.2 release, so they may have modified the kernel. idk.
[17:28] <nicomachus> but yea, what Pici said. Did you do full-upgrade?
[17:28] <Dreaman> virtuosoj  this is for 16.10 4.8
[17:28] <MrFixIt> virtuosoj, it looks like you are going to need to install linux-image-extra-4.8.0-36-generic  as a minimum to pick it up. You need to add whatever other necessary linux 4.8 packages too.
[17:30] <MrFixIt> sorry virtuosoj I meant linux-image-4.8.0-36-generic and the other related packages.
[17:31] <MrFixIt> virtuosoj, if you head in that direction just make sure you don't have any issues with new or older drivers... best to read the release notes first
[17:31] <MrFixIt> nicomachus, I think you are probably right about that, I had seen they were encountering a few regressions
[17:32] <nacc> virtuosoj: the correct fix is to install the hwe pacakge
[17:32] <nacc> virtuosoj: note that this was (i believe) in the release notes
[17:32] <iresf> hello   i have installed apache2  , php 7 and mysql on ubuntu 16.04   but when i want to run a php file it returns source code and does not excute it    pleasehelp
[17:32] <nacc> virtuosoj: upgraders will not be auto-enrolled
[17:32] <RNeville> can I use Ubuntu Live CD 16.05 to reset driver for video card to nouveau
[17:32] <nacc> virtuosoj: fresh installs will be auto-enrolled in hwe (if they install 16.04.2) aiui
[17:33] <nacc> iresf: did you install libapache2-mod-php ?
[17:33] <iresf> nacc : yes
[17:34] <RNeville> Ubuntu Live CD 16.04/ Ubuntu Live CD 16.05**
[17:35] <skyfaller> hi folks, I'm sadly running Ubuntu 12.04, and my server seems to be under a DOS attack of some sort. I want to block specific IP addresses using iptables, but it's not working
[17:35] <skyfaller> I'm saying something like "sudo iptables -A INPUT -s 192.0.96.247 -j DROP"
[17:35] <skyfaller> but then when I go "sudo iptables -L" I don't see that rule listed
[17:36] <skyfaller> can anyone help?
[17:36] <virtuosoj> nacc: what's the easiest way for me to enroll?
[17:36] <CrazySane> skyfaller: if it is a DOS, IP tables on the machine being DOS'ed isn't going to help too much
[17:36] <CrazySane> skyfaller: Truly, you need to filter them upstream so the box never received the rogue packets in the first place.
[17:37] <skyfaller> hm, that didn't occur to me
[17:37] <CrazySane> skyfaller: the box still has to deal with those packets when it receives them (even if it's blackholing them) so it's still going to DOS if there are enough of them.
[17:38] <CrazySane> skyfaller: tho, IP Tables will mitigate a small DOS.
[17:38] <skyfaller> it has to be a small DOS, I'm hosting a handful of no-name sites, there's no reason for anyone to DOS me in the first place :P
[17:38] <CrazySane> skyfaller: what makes you think you're being DOS'ed in the first place?
[17:39] <orgasmix> depends. a DoS might target an application's weakness in the way it handles/replies to packets (i.e. leverage effect). in that case iptables will be useful
[17:39] <nacc> virtuosoj: looking one sec
[17:39] <Aleric> I solved my issue...
[17:39] <Aleric> Thanks for the help.
[17:40] <nacc> virtuosoj: for X, xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04; for kernel, linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04
[17:40] <CrazySane> orgasmix: that's what I'm referring to. If the reason the DOS is effective is because the network layer is at capacity, then IP tables won't help. If it's because the application layer can't handle the load, then IP tables will help.
[17:40] <skyfaller> CrazySane: well, this looks a lot like something that happened to me several months ago, my server slowed to a crawl, I tried rolling back to a known-good backup but the problem persisted.
[17:40] <skyfaller> CrazySane: Then I said sudo watch -d -n0 "netstat -atnp | grep ESTA" and saw a constant stream of weird traffic, so I blocked those IP addresses and then my server ran fine
[17:40] <nacc> k1l: other regulars, we may want to make the above a FAQ (the 16.04.2 HWE packages)
[17:41] <skyfaller> CrazySane: again I see some weird traffic using that command, so I want to try taking the same steps I took last time, but this time it's not working and I don't know why
[17:41] <skyfaller> and it's really hard to do any diagnostic stuff because my server is at 100$
[17:41] <skyfaller> *100% CPU
[17:41] <iresf> i do not know why apache can not render php file
[17:41] <CrazySane> can you do    netstat -atnp | grep ESTA | pastebinit
[17:41] <iresf> it only returns source code
[17:42] <orgasmix> CrazySane: Imagine an application layer badly-designed so that any 1B incoming packet triggers a 10B response. Surely a single attacker can cause the application to overload its own network. That's the leverage effect, and iptables will block that
[17:42] <nacc> iresf: did you enable mod_php? did you specify that php files should be interpreted in the config?
[17:42] <CrazySane> orgasmix: I think we're in agreement here.
[17:43] <\9> skyfaller: on an unrelated note, 12.04 only has 2 months of support left. you'll need to upgrade soon
[17:43] <iresf> nacc : which config file  ?
[17:43] <CrazySane> skyfaller: can you do    netstat -atnp | grep ESTA | pastebinit
[17:43] <NemesisD> anyone know why when i do lsof i get lots of things with the "command" column of "foo" but lsof -c foo returns nothing. oddly enough, negating it lsof -c ^foo returns everything *but* the foos
[17:43] <CrazySane> skyfaller: and give us the link. I want to see what addresses you're susp of.
[17:44] <skyfaller> CrazySane: ok, I'm trying, first I have to install pastebinit
[17:44] <nacc> iresf: apache's for the site you are trying to load
[17:44] <skyfaller> \9: yes, I am sadly aware of this fact
[17:45] <birkhoffc> hi
[17:45] <virtuosoj> nacc: just install those with apt?
[17:45] <CrazySane> When did patebinit become a standard install (if ever?) I'd never heard of it until I started volunteering here.. and it was already installed.. but some (older) installs don't have it by default
[17:45] <iresf> nacc  : i do not know how to config it   , if you have any tutorial please send me it
[17:45] <nacc> virtuosoj: yeah, that should be all you need
[17:45] <skyfaller> CrazySane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24014766/
[17:45] <virtuosoj> nacc: ty!
[17:45] <nacc> CrazySane: are you on a server? it's preinstalled there, iirc
[17:46] <Waldo_Sub> Waldo
[17:46] <Waldo_Sub> #CollarSpace_Lobby
[17:46] <skyfaller> CrazySane: the sshd entries are me, the others I'm suspicious of
[17:46] <nacc> iresf: apache configuration is sort of outside the context, there might be some docs in /usr/share/doc
[17:46] <skyfaller> CrazySane: nobody ever visits my websites, and if they do they visit it once, not every other second
[17:46] <birkhoffc> hhhhhhhhh
[17:46] <birkhoffc> lo;
[17:46] <birkhoffc> lol
[17:46] <CrazySane> skyfaller: line 2 & 3 are a network local to the box.
[17:47] <skyfaller> oh. I'm dumb
[17:47] <skyfaller> ... wait, I'm on Linode. Why would other computers on the Linode network be pinging me constantly?
[17:48] <CrazySane> skyfaller: line 5 is a datacenter for Amazon in Ireland.
[17:48] <CrazySane> skyfaller: line 6 is Amazon again in Singapore
[17:49] <iresf> i have installed libapache2-mod-php7.0 but when i use  libapache2-mod-php7.0  it says it does not exist     i could not solve it  so far
[17:49] <CrazySane> skyfaller: and 7 is Amazon in Brazil
[17:49] <nacc> iresf: 'use libapache2-mod-php7.0'? use where, with what. Pastebin exact commands and output.
[17:49] <CrazySane> skyfaller: You don't happen to host with Amazon do you?
[17:50] <skyfaller> CrazySane: no, I'm on Linode. http://linode.com/
[17:52] <skyfaller> CrazySane: someone in the Linode channel said they think the 192 address is an AUTOMATTIC address, not a local address
[17:52] <CrazySane> skyfaller: that depends on your definition of "automatic"
[17:52] <skyfaller> CrazySane: https://myip.ms/view/ip_addresses/3221250048/192.0.96.0_192.0.96.255
[17:53] <CrazySane> skyfaller: Ah! Doah! Right. XD
[17:53] <skyfaller> " That's the company basically behind WP, so you're probably seeing WP ping-backs or something."
[17:53] <lesshaste> is there a channel to discuss bittorrent clients?
[17:53] <CrazySane> skyfaller: I agree. I read that IP too fast and thought it said "192.168"
[17:54] <skyfaller> understandable mistake :)
[17:54] <genuine_> is ubuntu going to release a cinnamon or is there a way to get cinammon on ubuntu?
[17:55] <CrazySane> skyfaller: longshot guess here.. but perhaps Wordpress is hosted on Amazon's Cloud?
[17:55] <skyfaller> ... not out of the realm of possibility. I guess I'd better go ask in their channel too
[17:55] <CrazySane> skyfaller: But I can't see these few connections DOS'ing your service.
[17:55] <nacc> !info cinnamon | genuine_
[17:55] <ANNA-cc> Command "info" / "info cinnamon" not found.
[17:56] <CrazySane> New bot?
[17:56] <nacc> !ops: please kick ANNA-cc a bot intercepting ubottu commands.
[17:56] <ANNA-cc> Command "ops:" / "ops: please" not found.
[17:56] <nacc> !ops
[17:56] <ANNA-cc> Command "ops" not found.
[17:56] <ANNA-cc>  Did you mean "!apropos" ?
[17:56] <nacc> please kick ANNA-cc a bot intercepting ubottu commands. --^
[17:57] <Aleric> skyfaller: aren't those broadcasts? My ISP also used to be so stupid to pass broadcasts between clients - I could see the DHCP requests from my neighbors.
[17:57] <CrazySane> thanks
[17:57] <genuine_> nacc, thanks for the response, where do i find the package?
[17:57] <nacc> genii: thank you
[17:57] <genii> np
[17:57] <nacc> genuine_: not sure i understand? it's in universe in all ubuntu 16.04+
[17:57] <skyfaller> Aleric: I don't know enough about anything to respond to your suggestion :)
[17:58] <nicomachus> genii: apt install cinnamon
[17:58] <nacc> genuine_: --^
[17:58] <genuine_> oh ok Thank you very much
[17:58] <nicomachus> that's what I meant. sorry genii.
[17:58] <genii> :)
[17:58] <nicomachus> go back to your coffee
[17:58] <nicomachus> or install cinnamon, see if I care.
[17:59] <nacc> heh
[18:00] <CrazySane> skyfaller: So where do we stand now?
[18:00]  * nicomachus wonders if cinnamon even works on gentoo...
[18:00] <skyfaller> CrazySane: I'm not sure, my CPU is still at 100% and I can't do anything :P
[18:01] <genuine_> now that i installed it, how do i apply it?
[18:02] <CrazySane> skyfaller: Is it the Apache process that is pegged?
[18:02] <CrazyTux> hello, could anyone advise on the preferred option to update Ubuntu? Using Software updater or using sudo apt-get update/upgrade.
[18:02] <nicomachus> genuine_: log out. then click the little ubuntu logo next to your username on the login screen, and select Cinnamon. Then log in.
[18:02] <pavlos> skyfaller, can you use 'top' and see which process is at 100%
[18:02] <CrazySane> CrazyTux: They are the same
[18:02] <genuine_> ok thanks :D
[18:02] <wildlander> ubuntu 16.04.2 was released. yay!!!
[18:03] <skyfaller> yeah, it's all apache2 processes
[18:03] <CrazyTux> ok.
[18:03] <iresf> nacc :
[18:03] <nacc> iresf: yes?
[18:03] <CrazySane> skyfaller: Perhaps it would be better suited if you go to an Apache channel and get them to help you figure out why your apache install is losing its mind over a few connections.
[18:04] <nacc> iresf: afaik, i asked a question, you haven't responded
[18:04] <skyfaller> ... I'm already in 3 channels :( But here goes another one...
[18:04] <iresf> when i use sudo a2dismod php7.0   it says  : ERROR  : Module php7.0 does not exist
[18:04] <CrazySane> skyfaller: sometimes too many opinions can muddy the waters. ;)
[18:04] <a64> Hello guys i wanna fix my photos format on linux is there any application to do it ?
[18:05] <CrazySane> a64: Can you be more specific: "fix my photos format"
[18:05] <nacc> !who | iresf: so i know you're responding to me.
[18:05] <CrazySane> a64: Do you mean it's currently a JPG and you want it to be a PNG instead?
[18:05] <nacc> iresf: i'm not sure how that's possible if you've installed the packages
[18:06] <CrazyTux> which is the most comprehensive archiving application available for Ubuntu? the one that support most of the compression formats.
[18:06] <a64> CrazySane, i got around 700 images without any extensions i wanna  add extension
[18:06] <a64> yup
[18:06] <nacc> a64: extensions don't mean anything on linux
[18:06] <nacc> a64: so use `rename`
[18:06] <CrazySane> a64: Check this out: https://askubuntu.com/questions/485525/how-to-mass-add-file-extension
[18:06] <nacc> a64: if you mean you wan to convert them, then use `convert` probably
[18:07] <nacc> CrazySane: tar? with appropriate flags
[18:07] <a64> nacc, i know mate but when i transfer my photos to my phone its wont view
[18:07] <nacc> a64: sounds like a bug in the phone :)
[18:07] <CrazySane> nacc: Sorry - similar names @ CrazyTux
[18:07] <nicomachus> what format are the images?
[18:07] <nacc> CrazySane: argh, sorry!
[18:07] <nicomachus> a64 
[18:07] <pavlos> skyfaller, try strace the process, ... strace -vv -s 2048 -o /tmp/httpd.trace -p <pid>
[18:07] <nacc> CrazyTux: tar? with appropriate flags
[18:08] <a64> .jpg dunno why its not working damn on iphone  :@
[18:08] <CrazyTux> ok
[18:08] <BluesKaj> sorry nicomachus ..was AFK  for a while
[18:09] <CrzySane> pavlos: thanks for stepping in to help with Apache, not my forte.
[18:10] <pavlos> CrzySane, not my forte either, but I look at pages and suggest
[18:10] <CrzySane> pavlos: at least you had an idea where to start.
[18:10] <skyfaller> ... what's the PID? :(
[18:11] <CrzySane> skyfaller: run top, the PID is listed in the first column
[18:11] <skyfaller> CrzySane: oh right, thanks :)
[18:12] <ginor> ciao
[18:12] <skyfaller> ok, I think I'm doing the strace now, why am I doing this?
[18:12] <ginor> !list
[18:14] <skyfaller> pavlos: I don't think strace will help here, it's a zillion different apache2 processes, there's a new one every second
[18:15] <skyfaller> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24014985/
[18:17] <pavlos> CrzySane, if you look at /tmp/httpd.trace, there should be syscalls all over ...
[18:17] <pavlos> skyfaller, , if you look at /tmp/httpd.trace, there should be syscalls all over ...
[18:17] <skyfaller> I can't get iptables to drop an address :(  http://pastebin.com/WGsUwgsn
[18:20] <skyfaller> pavlos: hm, you appear to be right. it looks like a bunch of requests to one specific website I host
[18:21] <pavlos> skyfaller, maybe it cannot reach that website ...
[18:21] <kur1j> can someone explain to me how the Ubuntu team is making the cloudimg so small? specifically xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img 308M
[18:21] <skyfaller> wouldn't be surprising, since my CPU is maxed out
[18:22] <kur1j> I'm trying to create an image manually and I am using the minimal ubuntu installer and without selecting anything its 1.9GB for me
[18:22] <skyfaller> pavlos: basically, nothing else matters until I get my CPU down to a reasonable level, that's all I need help with at this moment
[18:24] <skyfaller> pavlos: here's a paste of /tmp/httpd.trace ... just scroll past all of the empty space. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015006/
[18:24] <pavlos> skyfaller, ps -ef | grep apache2 should list all the pid's, there should be a master pid and slave apache2 pid's under that master. Can you kill some of the slave pid's?
[18:25] <skyfaller> pavlos: ok, how do I kill them? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015031/
[18:25] <iresf> when i use   sudo a2enmod php7.0  it says : ERROR  Module php7.0 does not exist  !
[18:26] <geigerCounter> Hi there! I'm running an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and I'm having a hell of a time configuring exim4. I set it up to use MySQL for authentication and Dovecot for imap and pop3 according to a guide I found. Now I'm trying to secure it with TLS and I think I broke it. Exim4 times out on external connections and testing it locally with telnet, it won't let me actually run starttls anyway.
[18:27] <pavlos> skyfaller, parent is 4163 ... kill them one at a time, kill 21524 and so on
[18:27] <geigerCounter> Please assist.
[18:27] <skyfaller> pavlos: no literally what command do I use :/
[18:27] <AionNL|2> kill <pid>
[18:28] <pavlos> skyfaller, kill 21524
[18:28] <a64> CrzySane, Thanks a lot mate you saved my life
[18:28] <CrzySane> a64: Np. Google warrior at your service.
[18:28] <pavlos> skyfaller, kill 24381
[18:28] <skyfaller> pavlos: OK, I'll try it, but you realize several new processes are being created every second
[18:28] <AionNL|2> yes skyfaller, but if you kill the parent
[18:28] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, please use paste.ubuntu.com and put your config
[18:28] <AionNL|2> no new babies will be born :P
[18:29] <mynameis> hey
[18:29] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: I'm using the split config and also there's potentially some sensitive information. How do I get the lump sum of my exim config into a paste?
[18:29] <mynameis> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04.5 with default radeon gpu driver how do I set higher resolution than 1024x768?
[18:29] <AionNL|2> quick stupid remark on reverse dns zone : when range was 192.168.1.x the reverse arpa would be 1.168.192.app right ?
[18:29] <skyfaller> ohhhh, that was easy... I guess I just killed apache2
[18:29] <RNeville> need help uninstalling a proprietary Nvidia driver, my computer has black screen on boot
[18:29] <AionNL|2> yes skyfaller :)
[18:30] <AionNL|2> now you look at the logs and see what goes wrong
[18:30] <skyfaller> ok, now my CPU is not at 100%, what do I do?
[18:30] <pavlos> skyfaller, there is a config directive how many slave processes to be spawned in apache2, cant remember the exact directive (and I dont have apache2 running to test
[18:30] <a64> CrzySane, yeah but my problem is english is my second language :( and newbie in linux
[18:31] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, definitely scrub sensitive data first. You can leave the configs in separate pastes
[18:31] <skyfaller> can anyone tell me why I couldn't drop specific IP addresses? That's been the most frustrating part to me. I know where the traffic is coming from, if I just block it that would be more useful than taking my websites offline
[18:32] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: Alright, one moment...
[18:32] <AionNL|2> @skyfaller , how did you try to drop the ip?
[18:34] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: Question, can I paste the "config.autogenerated" located in /var/lib/exim4 ? That contains all of the configuration patched together in one file, right?
[18:34] <mynameis> I can't set a higher resolution than 1024x768 please help! I have tried installing different video drivers, nothing works for me
[18:35] <b-yeezi> That would be a good start at least.
[18:35] <geigerCounter> Alright. Give me a sec to scrub the sensitive data then.
[18:36] <b-yeezi> Also, what TLS version are you using? Is it a question of handshake being refused?
[18:37] <geigerCounter> I'm not sure.
[18:38] <nicomachus> mynameis: can you pastebin the output of `xrandr` and link here please?
[18:38] <geigerCounter> It works for Dovecot on the IMAP side of things, but not exim4 on the SMTP side. I'm using self-signed certs for now. ( Going to switch over to letsencrypt certs when I get it to connect successfully. )
[18:38]  * xrandr barfs for mynameis so he can put it in the pastebin :P
[18:38] <mynameis> nicomachus sure one moment
[18:38] <nicomachus> 0_o
[18:39] <b-yeezi> Are you allowing the self-signed cert to be accepted in telnet?
[18:39] <Dreaman> mynameis you pc parameters
[18:39] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: Uhmm... I'm not sure, tbh.
[18:39] <mynameis> Dreaman radeon r7 250x ubuntu 14.04.5
[18:40] <xrandr> nicomachus: you wanted me to output something for him :P
[18:40] <RNeville> can't get past grub screen now that I have loaded a Nvidia proprietary driver
[18:40] <mynameis> nicomachus here is the output http://pastebin.com/Uv5Y71MV
[18:40] <mynameis> xrandr haha
[18:40] <nicomachus> Dreaman: again, please, stop. you are giving bad advice. We don't need PC parameters, we need xrandr- output
[18:40] <RNeville> tried to edit grub menu with this command : nomodeset (with no success)
[18:40] <mynameis> hey xrandr could you give me the output? :)
[18:40] <Dreaman> nicomachus ok
[18:40] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, that could be the problem. For security, self-signed certs are rejected in a lot of protocols by default
[18:40] <nicomachus> maximum 16384 x 16384  0_o
[18:40] <nicomachus> what
[18:40] <mynameis> xrandr I can provide you with parameters if needed
[18:41] <geigerCounter> Oh hmm.
[18:41] <mynameis> what
[18:41] <RNeville> found this command to edit grub menu : nouveau.modeset=0
[18:41] <xrandr> mynameis: that requires me to do something.
[18:41] <nicomachus> mynameis: is this an external monitor or laptop or what?
[18:41] <CrzySane> !enter | RNeville
[18:41]  * xrandr is lazy....built by lazy developers
[18:41] <mynameis> it's a desktop pc connected to a normal monitor via dvi
[18:41] <pavlos> skyfaller, look at /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, MaxKeepAliveRequests and KeepAliveRequests
[18:41] <nicomachus> xrandr: please either change your name or stop making jokes every time the package is mentioned.
[18:41] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: But why is the connection timing out when trying to connect remotely?
[18:42] <mynameis> lol
[18:42] <nicomachus> mynameis: ok. the maximum value there is VERY weird. I've never seen it show something so outrageous like that...
[18:42] <mynameis> wow
[18:42] <Dreaman> mynameis  i use 4k
[18:42] <RNeville> not sure if last command enables nouveau driver or disable nouveau drive, i.e, : nouveau.modeset=0
[18:42] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015110
[18:42] <Dreaman> my monitors systems work
[18:43] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | RNeville
[18:43] <Xundres> hi, how can i solve problems with compyling a packet? I receive always some error when I try ./cofngure
[18:43] <mynameis> nicomachus I guess it's the maximum value of the variable or something
[18:43] <xrandr> RNeville: 0 = disable, 1 = enable.
[18:43] <Dreaman> nicomachus  tel you how you to work
[18:43] <RNeville> thx xrandr
[18:43] <Dreaman> to meny lames in the chanel
[18:43] <nacc> Dreaman: you're not listening. Please stop. You are not contributing anything to the discussion.
[18:43] <nicomachus> mynameis: the maximum value should be something real, like 1024x768 or something
[18:44] <nicomachus> or 1280x1094 or whatever that one is.
[18:44] <mynameis> nicomachus yeah, I have seen a lot of errors in syslog related to my gpu yesterday
[18:44] <xrandr> nicomachus: if he has the monitors either extending or duplicating themselves, won't he get a larger display output?
[18:44] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, OK I will take a look. I'm, not guaranteeing that I will be able to figure it out. I'm not that versed in this, tbh, but I have have to troubleshoot mail servers before
[18:44] <CrzySane> Xundres: do you mean compiling a package?
[18:45] <mynameis> nicomachus my card can run 4k I think that might be the max resolution
[18:45] <geigerCounter> Well any help is appreciated at this point
[18:45] <mynameis> it can't run 16k though :O
[18:45] <RNeville> nicomachus, tried to follow direction at : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132   with no success
[18:45] <CrzySane> Xundres: like, compiling an application from source?
[18:45] <RNeville> tried adding "nomodeset" in grub menu
[18:45] <RNeville> with no success
[18:45] <Xundres> yes
[18:45] <Xundres> CrzySane: yes, any
[18:46] <Xundres> for example
[18:46] <nicomachus> xrandr: yes, but not 16384 x 16384
[18:46] <Xundres> GEOCLUE
[18:46] <CrzySane> Xundres: can you do    ./configure | pastebinit
[18:46] <nacc> Xundres: it depends on the error, of course. Compiling from source generically is not something  necessarily supported here
[18:46] <Xundres> yes
[18:46] <nacc> Xundres: also, why are you compiling from source, can you not use the ubuntu packages?
[18:46] <xrandr> mynameis: how many monitors do you have attached?
[18:47] <mynameis> xrandr just one currently running at 1024x768 because the system won't let me change it to anything higher
[18:47] <xrandr> mynameis: I missed the details earlier. What video card, and what ports are on the video card?
[18:47] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, I'm assuming you used these docs: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-encrypted_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html
[18:47] <Xundres> CrzySane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015125/
[18:48] <nicomachus> mynameis: you wanted 1280x1024, right?
[18:48] <mynameis> xrandr radeon r7 250x, it has dvi, hdmi and display port and the issue is that I can't set any higher resolution
[18:48] <mynameis> nicomachus yes, correct
[18:48] <xrandr> mynameis: got a VGA port? Does your monitor have one of those too? If so, try that first. Might have a bad port or something
[18:48] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: yep
[18:49] <nicomachus> mynameis: try setting it manually with `xrandr --output DVI0 --mode 1280x1024`
[18:49] <CrzySane> Xundres: Perhaps someone else here might know why that doesn't appear to be the entire output of the script.
[18:49] <mynameis> xrandr my monitor only has d-sub and it's connected to my card's dvi with an adapter, the card doesn't have d-sub
[18:49] <mynameis> ok
[18:49] <geigerCounter> And to the best of my ability to understand them, I followed them.
[18:49] <b-yeezi> Yeah, It's pretty well-written
[18:50] <mynameis> nicomachus warning: output DVI0 not found; ignoring
[18:50] <nicomachus> ugh
[18:50] <nicomachus> DVI-0
[18:50] <nicomachus> sorry
[18:50] <xrandr> mynameis: i hate to even ask this.....but did it work on Windows (if you had windows installed) ?
[18:50] <mynameis> nicomachus xrandr: cannot find mode 1280x1024
[18:50] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: By the way, according to aptitde I am using version gnutls version 2.12.23-12ubuntu
[18:51] <b-yeezi> so that's not th problem
[18:51] <CrzySane> Xundres: also, perhaps someone else could recommend a better channel to ask source-building questions than this one, since we target the use of ubuntu and its packages.
[18:51] <mynameis> xrandr yeah I had Widonws previously and it worked with no issues
[18:51] <xrandr> mynameis: has it ever worked in ubuntu?
[18:52] <mynameis> xranrd yes, on onlder versions of Ubuntu with fglrx amd driver that isn't supported anymore
[18:52] <Xundres> ok
[18:53] <mynameis> xrandr it was on 14.04 actually
[18:53] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, have you tried trying to connect while tailf-ing the log and error files?
[18:54] <mynameis> my issue is that AMD dropped support for their driver and started developing a new one which doesn't work with my graphics card
[18:54] <nacc> Xundres: did you use pastebinit or c&p?
[18:54] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: I have.
[18:55] <Dreaman> mynameis  use free driver
[18:55] <CrazySane> mynameis: xrandr: while I don't have any specific input to the solution, I will tell you that I'm running a GF108 [GeForce GT 730] and I had a ton of problems in previous versions of Ubuntu. 15.10 fixed them though.
[18:55] <geigerCounter> They didn't say much useful last I checked.
[18:55] <mynameis> so I can only use the open source driver with max resolution of 1024x768 or somehow try to install fglrx driver on 14.04
[18:55] <nicomachus> CrazySane: Nvidea vs. AMD. big difference.
[18:55] <xrandr> mynameis: can you try and find the driver that worked for 16.04 and install it? I know it isn't the best idea, but if it works....
[18:55] <mynameis> CrazySane I think this problem is specific to AMD and their poor support for linux
[18:56] <CrazySane> nicomachus: my bad, I thought they said it was an nVidia card. Must have read someone else say that.
[18:56] <Dreaman> my nvidia 940 4gb ram vddr5 use 4k
[18:56] <Dreaman> :)
[18:56] <nicomachus> Dreaman: please leave.
[18:56] <xrandr> mynameis: i do think that linux is  more partial to nVidia than AMD
[18:56] <CrazySane> Dreaman: :)  My nVidia card is flying right along now. XD
[18:56] <Dreaman> nicomachus  no lame
[18:56] <kur1j> I'm trying to create an image for Openstack manually and I am using the minimal ubuntu installer and without selecting anything during installation its 1.9GB for me. I'm using QCOW2 and I have no idea how to make the installation smaller.
[18:56] <kur1j> any suggestions
[18:57] <mynameis> xrandr the driver that worked works only on 14.04 and only if you downgrade xorg which I did and I installed it but then my system broke :/
[18:57] <nicomachus> wait wait wait
[18:57] <nacc> kur1j: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server or an openstack channel
[18:57] <nicomachus> you did WHAT? mynameis
[18:57] <CrazySane> mynameis: why are you still on 14.04 now anyway?
[18:57] <nicomachus> what driver was that? and you DOWNGRADED xorg?
[18:57] <mynameis> CrazySane yes I am
[18:57] <nacc> CrazySane: 14.04 is fully supported still
[18:57]  * CrazySane chuckles at nicomachus 
[18:57] <kur1j> nacc: ok thanks.
[18:58] <xrandr> ok, everyone relax
[18:58] <CrazySane> nacc: I know, but I'm curious as to why they are staying back there.
[18:58] <mynameis> nicomacus after 16.10 and 16.04 failed me and amdgpu driver did too I installed 14.04.5 but in order to install fglrx on that I had to downgrade xorg to lower version
[18:58] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: Mainly, what I discover from reading the logs is that there's a Russian spambot chain trying to use my smtp and exim is quite correctly not letting it. I do wish to fix this, but one step at a time...
[18:58]  * nicomachus facepalms and goes to lunch
[18:58] <CrazySane> mynameis: ah. You've already been down the 16.x trail.
[18:58] <xrandr> mynameis: what version of ubuntu are you currently running now, and what version of xorg are you running?
[18:58] <mynameis> CrazySane yeah
[18:59] <mynameis> xrandr I'm running 14.04.5 and xorg - how do I check that?
[19:00] <mynameis> I'm on a fresh install of 14.04.5 now with default drivers and default xorg
[19:00] <CrazySane> mynameis: dpkg -s org
[19:00] <xrandr> mynameis: in a terminal, type X -version
[19:00] <CrazySane> or that ^
[19:00] <nacc> CrazySane: right, sorry, they've been here for a while, and have said that a few times
[19:01] <mynameis> it's xorg 1.7.7
[19:01] <gp5st> is there a recommended way to install from the iso to the (not currently in-used) harddrive without rebooting and using some form of external media?
[19:01] <CrazySane> nacc: Sorry for not scrolling back. Jumping on the train mid-go.
[19:01] <nacc> CrazySane: not a problem
[19:01] <xrandr> mynameis: ok. What happened with the later versions of ubuntu? No display at all?
[19:02] <xrandr> mynameis: sorry, just playing catch up here
[19:03] <mynameis> xrandr with all versions of Ubuntu the default driver displays only 1024x768, amdgpu-pro driver with 16.04 and 16.10 doesn't change anything and when I tried it with older kernel I couldn't boot
[19:03] <CrazySane> gp5st: I don't quite understand your question, could you try rephrasing it?
[19:03] <xrandr> mynameis: and here's another question. During the install of ANY of those versions, did the display look right?
[19:04] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, I don't see anything in this config that is that crazy. The things I would look at in your split configs is smtp_receive_timeout and use_gnu_tls
[19:04] <xrandr> Again, talking about while in the ubuntu installer
[19:04] <b-yeezi> sorry use_gnutls
[19:04] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: Okay, where would those be in the split config?
[19:04] <mynameis> xrandr it looked right, but I can't tell if the resolution was higher than 1024x768
[19:04] <gp5st> CrazySane: I have a new disk that I would like to install ubuntu on in a prep to move this computer to it. Is there a recommended way to install ubuntu to that disk without having to use a cd or usb key to run the installer on a reboot
[19:05] <Dreaman> http://prikachi.com/images.php?images/416/9044416O.png   mynameis  nicomachus see lame
[19:05] <Dreaman> :)
[19:05] <CrazySane> gp5st: Can you shut down the computer, install the new disk, install Ubuntu, remove the disk and reinstall the old one?
[19:05] <xrandr> mynameis: if it looked right it probably was right. I had that problem several years ago when I installed ubuntu 10 and had a Raedon card
[19:05] <xrandr> Radeon*
[19:05] <Npco> Anyone here run Ubuntu from a sd card? to what affect?
[19:06] <xrandr> mynameis: that means that there is some kind of driver that does work properly with your card
[19:06] <gp5st> CrazySane: that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid doing, because I'd need a CD or usb key (and a reboot)
[19:06] <nicomachus> Npco: I have used SD cards to install Ubuntu on raspberry pi's
[19:06] <gp5st> there's `debootstrap` but I was wondering if there was anything newer/more automated
[19:06] <nicomachus> Npco: works fine.
[19:07] <mynameis> xrandr I hope there is, but all of them don't seem to work
[19:07] <CrazySane> gp5st: I'm not aware of a way to acomplish what you're looking to do, maybe someone else will be able to help you.
[19:07] <mynameis> xrandr are you using an amd card at the moment?
[19:07] <gp5st> CrazySane: like I said, there's debootstrap, but I was hoping to find something a little less manual
[19:07] <xrandr> mynameis: here's a thought. If you still have the install cd or dvd... boot into it. Instead of choosing Install Ubuntu, choose Try Ubuntu. Then go to a terminal and do a lsmod  and paste it into pastebin or someplace you can look at it later. Reboot out of the live cd and back to your desktop, and run the same command
[19:07] <Npco> Nicomachus, I am running a Hp stream with a 32g built in flash drive, was thinking of running another os from a sd card, does it last a while?
[19:08] <xrandr> mynameis: nope, I use nVidia   *puffs out chest proudly*
[19:08] <nicomachus> Npco: I can't speak to long-term use, sorry
[19:08] <mynameis> xrandr what will that help me achieve?
[19:08] <xrandr> mynameis: oh, and in the live cd, when you use Try Ubuntu,  go to the display settings
[19:08] <nicomachus> mynameis: I'm running 16.04 with a Radeon HD 6450 and the radeon driver.
[19:08] <xrandr> see what resolution it reports
[19:08] <nicomachus> on one machine.
[19:08] <Npco> google, *puffs out chest proudly*
[19:09] <mynameis> xrandr I tried changing the resolution in live cd it was the same one as it is now
[19:09] <xrandr> mynameis: ok, that rules out a thing or two
[19:09] <mynameis> nicomachus the last command for xrandr for switching the resolution failed saying that the mode wasn't correct do you know what should be the correct mode?
[19:10] <mynameis> xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x1024
[19:10] <mynameis> xrandr: cannot find mode 1280x1024
[19:10] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, I have to look it up
[19:10] <xrandr> mynameis: what monitor do you have, and what is it's highest display setting? just curious
[19:11] <mynameis> xrandr it's highest resolution is 1280x1024
[19:11] <b-yeezi> I thing tlsoptions for use_gnutls
[19:11] <xrandr> nicomachus: is there a generic xorg driver he could use instead of the radeon one? just to troubleshoot?
[19:11] <Dreaman> mynameis  my card hdmi but lg monitor is dvi and full hd work 4k use
[19:11] <mynameis> Dreaman ok
[19:12] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: Alright. I'm grepping the config files
[19:13] <b-yeezi> Also, I wish telnet had a verbose mode so you can see more info about the connection
[19:13] <geigerCounter> Yeah, me too.
[19:14] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: There's no "gnu" found in any of the conf.d files.
[19:16] <b-yeezi> The reason I wonder about the timeout is if the spambot is hammering on your smtp server, it may be taking longer to negotiate a handshake
[19:16] <mynameis> OMG guys
[19:16] <mynameis> I did this http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution#377944
[19:16] <mynameis> and it set my resolution to what I wanted to
[19:17] <geigerCounter> That's a good point.
[19:17] <mynameis> will this setting stay after reboot?
[19:18] <genii> mynameis: No. You need to put the commands into /etc/rc.local
[19:19] <mynameis> thanks everyone for help
[19:19] <Dreaman> just use free driver
[19:19] <Dreaman> use
[19:20] <mynameis> I would at least spent another day reinstalling different drivers if it wasn't for you guys
[19:20] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: rfc1413_query_timeout ?
[19:20] <Dreaman> mynameis  my card is old 4630 i use ubuntu 17.04 alpha 2
[19:20] <Dreaman> my resolution work
[19:22] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, maybe. Before that, checkout http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-encrypted_smtp_connections_using_tlsssl.html
[19:23] <b-yeezi> find timeout in the page. Maybe this is the problem
[19:26] <Wulf> hi
[19:27] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: The only thing about timeouts on that page has to do with the tls_dhparam, which afaik I didn't set.
[19:28] <b-yeezi> Well, consider me stumped. Sorry
[19:29] <geigerCounter> Yeah.
[19:29] <Wulf> I've got an Ubuntu 14.04 server with package dnsutils installed in version 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9ubuntu0.5; should the current (security) version not be 0.13?
[19:29] <geigerCounter> What is the dhparam anyway?
[19:30] <Rubiksmomo> Could someone please explain why IRC whois shows my actual hostname/IP when I'm connected to VPN?
[19:30] <Wulf> Rubiksmomo: check your routes
[19:30] <nacc> !info dnsutils trusty
[19:30] <nacc> Wulf: yes, it should be (via -updates and -security)
[19:30] <mynameis> Rubiksmomo did you set your VPN settings in your system?
[19:31] <xrandr> sorry mynameis for disappearing. I am at work and was on a long support call
[19:31] <linewb> hello, would anyone be interested in helping me with a networking issue?  2 NICs, static routes or policy based issues
[19:31] <Wulf> nacc: so where could the installed version come from?
[19:31] <Rubiksmomo> mynameis, Yeah, it shows a lock at the WiFi icon on top right corner
[19:31] <ikonia> linewb: just state the problem and people will help if they can / want to
[19:31] <mynameis> xrandr no problem I managed to fix the issue with these commands http://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution#377944
[19:31] <xrandr> mynameis: great!
[19:31] <linewb> ty ikonia
[19:31] <CrazySane> !ask | linewb
[19:31] <mynameis> xrandr thanks for your help :)
[19:32] <Rubiksmomo> Wulf, How do I "check my routes"?
[19:32] <xrandr> !patience xrandr
[19:32] <nacc> Wulf: i mean that version probably also exist(ed) -- so maybe just not updated correctly (`apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade`)?
[19:32] <mynameis> and nico's help too :)
[19:32] <Wulf> Rubiksmomo: ip route
[19:32] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, diffy-helman prime number selection
[19:32] <xrandr> mynameis: you're welcome, but thank nicomachus. He did a lot more than I did
[19:32] <CrazySane> xrandr: to use that command, you need to pipe the target. eg !patience | xrandr
[19:32] <mynameis> yeah thanks nicomachus :)
[19:32] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: Do I need to set that stuff?
[19:32] <Wulf> nacc: tried it. btw, my version is "dfsg-9", the other is "dfsg-3"
[19:32] <xrandr> !patience |xrandr
[19:32] <b-yeezi> s/diffy/diffie/
[19:33] <nacc> Wulf: you're not on trusty, that's vivid
[19:33] <nacc> Wulf: or you installed a vivid package on trusty
[19:33] <nacc> Wulf: either way, bad choices (not upgrading or mixing releases)
[19:34] <Wulf> nacc: It's trusty and has always been trusty.
[19:34] <Rubiksmomo> How do can I route all my traffic through VPN? IRC doesn't seem to use my VPN. https://ghostbin.com/paste/upajc
[19:35] <nacc> Wulf: that dnsutils is vivid's publish
[19:35] <CrazySane> Rubiksmomo: that depends on your client. Might want to look for a channel dedicated to your client.
[19:35] <nacc> Wulf: `apt-cache policy dnsutils` in a pastebin
[19:35] <mynameis> Rubiksmono it might not be what you want but I think you can set in the router to use VPN
[19:35] <CrazySane> Rubiksmomo: wait. maybe not, if you're trying to route ALL your traffic through the vpn.
[19:36] <Wulf> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24015418/
[19:36] <nacc> Wulf: you installed a .deb by hand.
[19:36] <nacc> Wulf: as I said, mixing releases.
[19:37] <Wulf> nacc: I can't remember having done that
[19:37] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, I'm no expert on this, but I know that if it's not done correctly, it can mess things up. According to the docs, it is hardcoded with a default if you don't change it.
[19:37] <nacc> Wulf: not really the point :)
[19:37] <linewb> have 2 subnets, 10.2.1.0 and 10.2.2.0, routing table shows default gateway as 10.2.1.1(correct one fwiw), each nic with correct table entries and looks correct AFAIK.  I can ping either gateway at 10.2.1.1 or 10.2.2.1.  traceroute doesn't follow correct route.  I've tried following https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Two_Default_Gateways_on_One_System to the letter but still can't ping hosts on other net
[19:37] <linewb> s(e.g. 10.2.3.0/24)....  help :)
[19:37] <Rubiksmomo> mynameis, I don't think my Cisco EPC3825 supports trust.zone VPN
[19:38] <b-yeezi> geigerCounter, I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase. You may want to ping the ubuntu-server channel. They are better at this type of thing
[19:38] <ikonia> linewb: you shouldn't have two default gateways
[19:38] <mynameis> Rubiksmomo maybe you should check the settings to be sure
[19:38] <geigerCounter> b-yeezi: Hmm. Well I don't think it's the dhparams anyway. When I use telnet to access smtp locally, it doesn't time out.
[19:38] <geigerCounter> Ah, yeah.
[19:38] <geigerCounter> Thanks
[19:38] <Wulf> nacc: hmm.. wth
[19:39] <linewb> ikonia, there's only 1 default reported by route -n
[19:39] <Rubiksmomo> mynameis, I've tried, couldn't figure it out. There are some VPN related settings, but they didn't make much sense.
[19:39] <Wulf> nacc: perhaps someone messed up
[19:39] <ikonia> linewb: then why do you keep saying "ping either gateway" that suggests there is more than one
[19:39] <mynameis> Rubiksmomo maybe your router's manual could help?
[19:39] <nacc> Wulf: can't say, it's clear from that output that a .deb was installed manually outside of the system packages. I would verify them all, if you really don't know.
[19:40] <linewb> gateway meaning upstream switch port
[19:40] <linewb> each nic connected to different switches, would that mean multiple gateways for separate packets>
[19:40] <linewb> ?
[19:41] <ikonia> linewb: no it wouldn't
[19:41] <ikonia> that just means two network interfaces
[19:42] <CrazySane> linewb: The "gateway" will receive any packets the computer doesn't have a route for in it's tables. Otherwise, the computer will route the traffic to the NIC that is assigned to the route that matches the traffic.
[19:42] <Wulf> nacc: is there a command that checks all installed packages if they are from the correct distro?
[19:42] <CrazySane> its*
[19:43] <nacc> Wulf: i'm not sure, maybe something like debsums
[19:45] <CrazySane> Wulf: nacc: you might check Ubuntu's Installed Software in the package manager gui. I think it says something about where they are from in there (whether from repo or which etc.) Lemme check.
[19:46] <Wulf> what gui? :)
[19:46] <nacc> CrazySane: right, we've already verified this pkg is not from apt (.deb installation). THe question is how to find any others
[19:46] <CrazySane> Ah. cli only? XD
[19:47] <CrazySane> nacc: I saw that - I was trying to generate a listing of packages that are installed external to the repos.
[19:48] <nacc> it's possible you can ask for apt or apt-cache to search by source, i can't recall
[19:48] <linewb> with or without static routes or policy routing, any suggestions as to why I cannot reach a host in another subnet with just 1 default gateway?  e.g. sitting on the multi nic box(nic1: 10.2.1.10, nic2: 10.2.2.11) not able to get(ssh) to a host in 10.2.3.xx.
[19:48] <OerHeks> synaptic can filter that easy
[19:48] <nacc> OerHeks: good point
[19:48] <ikonia> linewb: what is the ip of the host you are trying to reach
[19:49] <smallfoot-> Anyone have DNS problems with zesty?
[19:49] <Wulf> OerHeks: can you tell me how?
[19:49] <ikonia> smallfoot-: why don't you just specifcy YOUR problem
[19:49] <linewb> 10.2.3.12
[19:49] <Wulf> oh wait, synaptic is GUI
[19:49] <nacc> smallfoot-: also, zesty is #ubuntu+1 please
[19:50] <ikonia> linewb: so that shouldn't need a gateway
[19:50] <smallfoot-> ikonia, DNS worked great til today. Then I updated some packages, and now DNS resolves google.com but not youtube.com and other domains
[19:50] <ikonia> linewb: that should just go out of the card that is 10.2.0.0 - assuming the mask is set correctly
[19:50] <OerHeks> Wulf, see the left panel > origin , and then click in the main window 's' to see all green installed packages
[19:50] <OerHeks> or write a custom filter
[19:50] <linewb> mask is /23
[19:50] <ikonia> linewb: so is that address in the same subnet as the ethernet card 10.2.x.x
[19:51] <CrazySane> !ask | smallfoot-
[19:51] <linewb> no
[19:51] <ikonia> linewb: then how do you expect it to get there ?
[19:51] <linewb> gateway?
[19:51] <ikonia> linewb: what gateway
[19:51] <linewb> 10.2.1.1 (default gw)
[19:52] <ikonia> linewb: is the default gateway setup to route to 10.2.2.3
[19:52] <ikonia> sorry 10.2.3.x
[19:52] <CrazySane> linewb: can any other hosts on the first network route to the second?
[19:52] <linewb> my guess is upstream routing would understand packets destined for 10.2.3.x would hand off to correct switchport
[19:53] <linewb> CrazySane, yes...that's maybe what is most troubling about this problem
[19:53] <ikonia> linewb: you can't just assume gateways know how to route
[19:53] <linewb> but the other hosts are not multi-nic
[19:53] <ikonia> linewb: you have 2 nics - both on serperate networks, you want to route to a THIRD network
[19:54] <ikonia> linewb: you're just hoping the default gateway for network one knows how to route the third network
[19:54] <CrazySane> ikonia: Do we have a traceroute on this yet?
[19:54] <linewb> ikonia, since other hosts on the same nets can get packets to the proper destination, should I assume this host would too?
[19:54] <ikonia> linewb: you need to know that the default route has a route to that network
[19:54] <ikonia> linewb: are they using the same default gateway as this ?
[19:54] <linewb> yes
[19:55] <ikonia> linewb: so if you send a packet to the third network, does it get sent to the default gateway
[19:55] <linewb> lemme tracert
[19:55] <ikonia> tracert is not a linux command
[19:55] <linewb> (lazy fingers)
[19:55]  * CrazySane chuckles
[19:56] <linewb> traceroute goes out public network and times out after
[19:57] <ikonia> "public network" ???
[19:57] <CrazySane> linewb: Is the "public network" the same gateway?
[19:57] <ikonia> neither of the addresses you gave are public networks
[19:57] <linewb> well...
[19:57] <linewb> I need to not put IPs in here...
[19:57] <ikonia> linewb: can you please be specific
[19:57] <ikonia> then you're giving us false information
[19:59] <linewb> so the traceroute goes out 1 IP( which is routed on a public network...) and hits some upstream switches but doesn't come back.  It should go out the other nic/IP but it isn't.
[19:59] <ikonia> linewb: thats not an ubuntu problem
[19:59] <ikonia> thats your network problem
[20:00] <linewb> but other hosts on the same network route without issue
[20:00] <ikonia> the only issue you may have is that you have allocated the default gateway to the wrong interface
[20:00] <linewb> I should say packets get routed correctly
[20:00] <ikonia> but as you are providing false IP information it's hard to tell
[20:00] <linewb> ikonia, i agree...i'd rather not post real IPs in here...
[20:01] <ikonia> thats your choice, but we won't be able to help you with your routing,
[20:01] <linewb> understandable
[20:01] <stickyrice1> you have 2 nics?
[20:01] <ikonia> but that is the only ubuntu issue you can have, that your default gateway is on the wrong address, that is the only way it would go out of the wrong interface
[20:01] <CrazySane> linewb: we already know you're at ohio state. The IPs you're using aren't secret.
[20:01] <linewb> CrazySane, true
[20:02] <linewb> stickyrice1, yes if that question was for me
[20:02] <stickyrice1> sorry late to the conversation, can you recap it
[20:03] <Wulf> nacc, OerHeks: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | while read pkg; do apt-get download --print-uris $pkg; done > /dev/null
[20:03] <linewb> sure, one moment
[20:03] <Wulf> takes a while to run, but appears to work
[20:03] <linewb> CrazySane, ikonia I figured that the idea was still the same(2 IPs, 2 nics), odd routing could be looked at generically enough
[20:04] <linewb> I'll try to clear it up a bit
[20:04] <nacc> Wulf: makes sense
[20:04] <ikonia> linewb: it can be generic, but the info you are giving us is quite false
[20:04] <nacc> Wulf: did you have others?
[20:04] <atyz> Can anyone give me some advice on a good webcam that would be compatible?
[20:04] <Wulf> nacc: I figure about 30 packages
[20:04] <ikonia> eg: you posted 2 private subnets within the same broad subnet, thats very different to one private and one public that are not related at all
[20:05] <Wulf> just how did that happen...
[20:09] <linewb> consider that one network is 10.2.45.x and the other is publicly routed at 128.146.45.x.  128.146.45.85 is the public NICs IP, netmask is /24.  10.2.45.85 is the private NIC, /23 is the netmask.  When default gw is set to 128.146.45.1 I can get into the box like normal.  From the box itself, I can then ping other nets(e.g. 10.2.46.1, 10.2.47.1, etc).  But I cannot get past 10.2.47.1 to a host 10.2.47.12.
[20:09] <linewb>    
[20:10] <yakiza> Hello everyone i have  just installed ubuntu  in my new pc  and i have a problem with my graphics card i have try  installed the same proprietary drivers as in my old pc the 340.101 and when i install those when i restart my pc  , my pc doesnt work it aske me to add the decrypt code but when i type nothing is showing  in the screeen my mouse is not
[20:10] <yakiza>  htere its like the whole system is stuck any help?
[20:10] <ikonia> linewb: pastebin your routing table please, lets look at what you actually have
[20:10] <Wulf> nacc: thanks for figuring out that my packages are from wrong release
[20:10] <CrazySane> linewb: Also, paste the traceroute to pastebin please.
[20:11] <linewb> let me back out some changes and get back to you
[20:12] <CrazySane> I'm about to leave the office (today is my wife's birthday!) but you're in good hands with ikonia. (good luck!)
[20:12] <linewb> Thanks CrazySane
[20:13] <stickyrice1> what device is 10.2.47.1?
[20:13] <linewb> switch
[20:13] <stickyrice1> l2 or l3?
[20:14] <linewb> 3
[20:14] <stickyrice1> that device pings .12 fine?
[20:14] <linewb> yes
[20:15] <nacc> Wulf: np, gl fixing it up!
[20:16] <stickyrice1> im sure someone (ikonia) has asked but do you have static routes in place for these 10. networks?
[20:17] <Wulf> nacc: is fixed.
[20:18] <linewb> stickyrice1, I've tried to set static routes at the host level.
[20:19] <Guest99551> with 2 nics like ikonia has said you will need static routes
[20:24] <linewb> http://pastebin.com/JpQ285F3
[20:26] <linewb> forgot this part on the pastbin...little spam incoming
[20:26] <linewb> [root@vm3sc ~]# traceroute 10.2.123.6
[20:26] <linewb> traceroute to 10.2.123.6 (10.2.123.6), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
[20:26] <linewb>  1  hop1.test.ohio-state.edu (128.146.45.1)  0.404 ms  0.384 ms  0.368 ms
[20:26] <linewb>  2  se4-vl870.net.ohio-state.edu (140.254.68.65)  1.669 ms  1.345 ms  1.767 ms
[20:26] <linewb>  3  socc4-forg2-4.net.ohio-state.edu (164.107.8.117)  1.627 ms  1.684 ms  1.618 ms
[20:27] <elky> pastebins like paste.ubuntu.com are a better idea linewb :)
[20:27] <ppf> so what is it you want  to achieve?
[20:27] <ppf> traceroute looks good
[20:28] <linewb> ppf, being able to ssh to hosts inside of private nets without being routed externall
[20:28] <stickyrice1> the trace to the oustide is always fine right?
[20:28] <linewb> yes
[20:29] <stickyrice1> what is the 10.2.45.0/23 network directly connected to?
[20:30] <linewb> if I'm understanding you, switchfabric
[20:30] <linewb> gear
[20:30] <linewb> there are some other leaf switches with nets on them
[20:31] <ikonia> linewb: you're not actually making sense here
[20:31] <ikonia> linewb: please pastebin your routing table
[20:32] <stickyrice1> http://pastebin.com/JpQ285F3
[20:33] <ikonia> so whats the problem
[20:33] <ikonia> he can only ssh to things on 10.2.45.0 without using the default gateway
[20:33] <ikonia> that looks totally correct
[20:33] <stickyrice1> thats what im seeing....seems fine
[20:33] <linewb> ikonia, I agree... it looks correct.  that's what I'm saying...
[20:33] <linewb> well, one thing I am...
[20:33] <ikonia> linewb: not looks correct "is correct"
[20:34] <ikonia> linewb: what is not working for you
[20:34] <ikonia> because if you want to ssh to anything not on the 10.2.45.0 network it will have to go via the default gateway
[20:34] <ikonia> which is what your pastes are showing me is happening, so thats "correct"
[20:34] <linewb> with the netmask on the private network set to /23, I cannot get to other 10.2.x.x things
[20:34] <gmh_> I removed a drive from madam raid1 and now I can't boot :/ 14.04 lts
[20:35] <ikonia> linewb: the address you gave me earlier was outside of the /23
[20:35] <ikonia> linewb: this is why giving fake IP details is not helpful
[20:35] <stickyrice1> route add -net 10.2.47.0 netmask 255.255.254.0 gw <10 network gateway>  dev enp5s0
[20:36] <tony4342> hey guys - is it possible to access bbc over https? if I go to https://bbc.co.uk I get redirected to www.bbc.com; is this normal?
[20:36] <nicomachus> tony4342: not really on topic here. ask ##networking I guess
[20:36] <tony4342> yeah it's true, I will ask there ... but can somebody confirm that it's the case
[20:36] <ikonia> tony4342: that is correct
[20:37] <ikonia> its a rewrite rule
[20:37] <stickyrice1> tony yes...it rewrites back to http
[20:37] <ikonia> and it doesn't re-write back to http
[20:37] <ikonia> I can connect on ssl just fine
[20:37] <stickyrice1> im too slow on my reply sorry
[20:38] <ikonia> it stays on ssl ,just rewrites bbc.co.uk to www.bbc.co.uk to force the certicate to be valid
[20:39] <tony4342> but how can I browse it over https? I always get redirected to bbc.com (http) - is my client side certificate chain broken?
[20:39] <ikonia> browse https://www.bbc.co.uk
[20:40] <tony4342> ikonia: I get redirected to bbc.com (http) there; am i compromised?
[20:41] <wedgie> i also get redirected to http
[20:41] <ikonia> tony4342: are you in the uk /
[20:41] <tony4342> nope
[20:41] <ikonia> tony4342: then that is correct most likley as the non-uk IP's get redirected off to a different service
[20:41] <ikonia> the bbc website is for UK IP's only for full features due to it's license law
[20:42] <Pici> tony4342: same thing happens here.
[20:42] <ikonia> I get full https support just fine on a UK address
[20:45] <tony4342> ikonia: you mean you are with a UK ISP?
[20:45] <ikonia> tony4342: correct
[20:45] <tony4342> ok, sry for being off-topic, I just thought it's weird, and I did not know, that this depends on ISP - I have to read up on TLS and HTTPS
[20:46] <wedgie> tony4342: has nothing do do with tls or https, really. The operators of bbc have decided to send you different places depending on where  you are coming from
[20:46] <ikonia> tony4342: its not a tls / https thing
[20:46] <ikonia> tony4342: it's a bbc website thing
[20:47] <tony4342> and how do they do that? do they know from the IP which ISP it is and map it to coutnries?
[20:48] <wedgie> tony4342: pretty much.
[20:48] <tony4342> anyway, I think news network should *not* do that
[20:48] <ikonia> tony4342: they are not interested in what you think
[20:48] <ikonia> tony4342: they are interested in their license agreement
[20:49] <stickyrice1> where linewb go?
[20:50] <tony4342> I think the implication is that, they are not interested in non-UK readers
[20:50] <linewb> still here :)
[20:50] <ppf> linewb: did you read what ikonia wrote?
[20:50] <stickyrice1> linewb: make any progress?
[20:51] <ikonia> there is no progress to be made
[20:51] <ikonia> it's pretty black and white
[20:51] <ikonia> unless you are on the same same subnet - it will have to use the default gateway
[20:51] <stickyrice1> ah come on, challenges are fun
[20:51] <ikonia> it's not a challange
[20:52] <ikonia> it's basic networking
[20:52] <stickyrice1> he can use static routes to send out another interface
[20:52] <ikonia> not really
[20:52] <ikonia> that will only allow him to route to the address range that interface is on
[20:52] <ikonia> or it will go out of the default gateway
[20:53] <ikonia> and as the address he is using is in neither subnet (but it's hard to be sure as he's giving false info) it won't help
[20:53] <linewb> ppf, yes :?  I can't post info as desired...
[20:53] <linewb> stickyrice1, I believe
[20:53] <fdas231> If I touched a poison, then just wipe it with a tissue, is it safe? To handle everyday item or how should I clean it like my keyboard.
[20:53] <stickyrice1> if the directly connected device on the 10 network is l3 capaable and has a route table he sure can
[20:53] <ikonia> fdas231: nothing to do with this channel
[20:53] <linewb> stickyrice1, rebooting to test
[20:53] <ikonia> stickyrice1: it's outside the mask
[20:53] <ikonia> stickyrice1: based on the fake info he posted earlier
[20:54] <ikonia> so it's not going to bridge the subnet without a router, hence default gateway
[20:54] <natefoo> so i can't find a way to boot the 16.04 livecd such that it doesn't automatically use swap on any disks it finds, and swapoff basically locks up the system because there's no other swap configured, and i can't create a swapfile on aufs
[20:55] <natefoo> all of this makes attempting to use gparted on the livecd useless if you are trying to move a swap partition on a disk
[20:56] <stickyrice1> what fake ip was given?
[20:59] <kjgla> Whenever I connect to our wifi using my PC, other computer cannot connect to the wifi. But when I disconnect my PC, it's fine with other computer. What kind of problem is this?
[21:02] <ppf> kjgla: radio signal noise?
[21:02] <kjgla> ppf: I don't understand
[21:04] <stickyrice1> kjgla:  if the other computer is connected, can your computer then connect and both be on at the same time?
[21:04] <linewb> ikonia, stickyrice1, ppf, thank you for your help
[21:04] <Fendaris> Hello, I am trying to figure out, why ubuntu keeps making my wifi connection unusable after a few minutes. I accepted some automatic ubuntu update, and now this happens.
[21:04] <pavlos> kjgla, your wifi offers 5 ip's, the pc uses the 5th so no other device can connect. When pc is disconnected, 5 becomes available
[21:04] <stickyrice1> linewb:  whats the status?
[21:04] <linewb> I'm all set
[21:04] <stickyrice1> working now?
[21:04] <linewb> yes
[21:05] <stickyrice1> good deal
[21:05] <stickyrice1> that static route help?
[21:05] <linewb> yes, was using wrong interface
[21:05] <stickyrice1> no worries
[21:05] <linewb> I'm still not sure why opening up netmask would take routing out of the picture but oh well...
[21:05] <linewb> s/would/wouldn't
[21:06] <stickyrice1> i wasnt here for that part but sounds like from what ikonia wa saying you had overlapping networks maybe
[21:06] <Fendaris> test
[21:06] <stickyrice1> return test
[21:06] <Fendaris> Just happened again. After a few minutes the wifi connection doesnt seem to transmit any data anymore.
[21:06] <Fendaris> if i manually reconnect to the wifi network, it works again
[21:06] <ceprius> test denied
[21:07] <Fendaris> that doesnt happen under windows, and didnt happen before the ubuntu update
[21:07] <stickyrice1> nack test
[21:08] <Fendaris> it s a bit hard to google, because the description is so generic....
[21:08] <stickyrice1> Fendaris:  driver issue?
[21:09] <Fendaris> if i click on connection information it says  Speed: 1 Mb/s .. that seems very strange
[21:09] <Fendaris> is there some way I could check my driver Stickyrice1? I am just getting started with linux
[21:09] <Trico> y
[21:10] <stickyrice1> Fendaris:  I'd have to refer you to someone else here...hopefully they can help....not my strong suit there
[21:11] <Fendaris> i am just gonna try sudo apt-get update like the noob i am here =D
[21:12] <Trico_> in #what-refuge
[21:13] <stickyrice1> Fendaris: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[21:15] <mike602> or if using 16.04 or higher instead "apt-get" it's better to use just "apt" :)
[21:15] <mike602> so "sudo apt udpate; sudo apt upgrade" :)
[21:15] <ppf> and full-upgrade, possible
[21:15] <ppf> note there's no real advantage currently in apt vs apt-get
[21:16] <mike602> thought "apt" was faster than "apt-get" ?
[21:16] <wedgie> faster to type, maybe'
[21:16] <ppf> i haven't noticed the difference
[21:16] <mike602> lol yeah is faster to type
[21:16] <mike602> so guess that's the advantage lol
[21:16] <k1l> apt has a fancy progress bar :)
[21:17] <mike602> that too ^
[21:17] <ppf> and colors!
[21:17] <mike602> loving my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 though :)
[21:17] <Menzador> apt references a combination of commands in the APT suite of tools.
[21:17] <k1l> but since apt tries  to group the different apt- commands and has a better wording "apt-get dist-upgrade" vs "apt full-upgrade" i do suggest it in here
[21:18] <k1l> because many users still think dist-upgrade does an upgrade to the next ubuntu release. but instead they are missing important updates to be installed like kernel updates.
[21:18] <ppf> admittedly, the name _is_ weird
[21:18] <wedgie> k1l: can't blame them. The choice of wording in that command is really confusing.
[21:19] <k1l> well, back in the old days that was the way to upgrade to a new release :/
[21:19] <ppf> sadly, apt-file is still not part of apt!
[21:19] <mike602> k1l: doesn't the regular updating method include kernel updates? beleive i've seen them included in the past. I only remain on LTS versions
[21:20] <Fendaris> ubuntu never seems very intuitive to me
[21:20] <ppf> {dist,full}-upgrade upgrades kernels
[21:20] <mike602> well dang. learn something new every day lol
[21:20] <Fendaris> why is it made in such a complicated way? I have to google each time I need to change my mouse speed.
[21:21] <ppf> and on other OSes you know that how?
[21:21] <wedgie> its in settings under "mouse & touchpat"    seems pretty intuitive to me...
[21:22] <k1l> mike602: apt-get without dist-upgrade is not allowed to change other packages than the ones. this doesnt work on kernel meta pacakges which pull the new kernel packages. that is what "you have held packages" is about.
[21:23] <mike602> k1l:  so dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to next release or no?
[21:24] <mike602> I don't mind the kernel updates, but I want to stay on LTS lol
[21:24] <k1l> mike602: ubuntu doesnt use apt(-get) to upgrade to the next release
[21:24] <\9> mike602: dist-upgrade just allows apt to install packages to get the updates done
[21:24] <\9> mike602: typically this implies installation of new kernels
[21:24] <Pici> mike602: unless you're mucking with the internals of /etc/apt/sources.list, an apt(-get) (dist|full)-upgrade will not bring you to a new release.
[21:25] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[21:25] <k1l> mike602: its worded "apt full-upgrade" on the new apt because of that confusion :)
[21:25] <nicomachus> !full-upgrade
[21:25] <nicomachus> :(
[21:25] <nicomachus> apt > apt-get
[21:25] <insty> when I click a python script it opens  in text editor instead of running it
[21:25] <wedgie> nicomachus: depends, i'd say
[21:26] <mike602> gotcha, thx
[21:26] <mike602> will try now lol
[21:26] <mike602> is this recommended to run though? the dist-upgrade on LTS release?
[21:26] <nicomachus> insty: yea. because when you have a GUI file manager open, you usually don't have root.
[21:26] <mike602> still little confused lol let me google
[21:26] <wedgie> mike602: yes. You WANT kernel updates
[21:26] <Fendaris> wifi died again
[21:26] <Fendaris> it still shows a connection then, but doessnt do anything.
[21:26] <OerHeks> mike602, try it, you see why, and you can cancel anyway
[21:26] <mike602> I get kernel updates w/ the sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade though?
[21:26] <insty> nicomachus, can I change that? this script is for xenopenmanager, its supposed to launche the application
[21:27] <mike602> you talking about kernel upgrades?
[21:27] <nicomachus> insty: open a terminal, cd to the directory, and then do ./filename
[21:27] <insty> nicomachus, is there a way to make it more simple in the future
[21:27] <nicomachus> mike602: you won't get kernel updates unless you do apt full-upgrade
[21:27] <k1l> mike602: use "apt" instead of "apt-get". then there is "sudo apt udpate" to get a new list of packages from the servers. then "sudo apt full-upgrade" to install those new pacakges
[21:28] <stickyrice1> work day is over....have a good weekend everyone
[21:28] <ppf> actually that's something they might have fixed in apt
[21:29] <ppf> why not get new sources on the fly
[21:29] <Fendaris> grep NetworkManager /var/log/syslog* <-- doesnt show any comments on the connection dropping out
[21:29] <nicomachus> insty: you can make it executable. right click -> properties -> permissions and then check the "Allow executing file as a program" box
[21:29] <insty> nicomachus, it already had that checked
[21:30] <insty> thanks anyway
[21:30] <ppf> insty: in what program are you clicking it
[21:30] <nicomachus> insty: you can make it run on startup I guess.
[21:30] <k1l> ppf: incoming linux newspaper headline: apt spying on users, connecting to servers wihtout beeing asked. :)
[21:30] <insty> ppf, just the normal folders view
[21:31] <nicomachus> nautilus ^
[21:31] <ppf> k1l: well, might make that configurable, for the whiners :D
[21:31] <insty> anyway I-ve tried to run it from console and it didnt launch the program I expected
[21:31]  * nicomachus gets out his "Bring back the web scopes by default" protest banner
[21:31] <ppf> yum and yast do that since forever, noone's complained there
[21:31] <mike602> per what i'm reading online, seems apt full-upgrade and/or apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade your system to the next release
[21:32] <ppf> insty: what did it do then?
[21:32] <ppf> mike602: then online is wrong
[21:32] <nicomachus> mike602: no
[21:32] <nicomachus> do-release-upgrade does that
[21:32] <insty> just sow me a bunch of text
[21:32] <k1l> mike602: that is wrong then.
[21:32] <insty> sasy s I porterror
[21:32] <insty> ImportError
[21:32] <ppf> so your python program has unfulfilled dependencies
[21:33] <mike602> ppf: how is it wrong? lol i'm reading from the site "debian-handbook"
[21:33] <insty> pastebin
[21:33] <insty> !astebin
[21:33] <insty> !pastebin
[21:33] <nicomachus> mike602: well, this is Ubuntu not Debian.
[21:33] <nicomachus> for starters.
[21:33] <wedgie> doesn't do that in debian either.
[21:33] <k1l> mike602: either its written by someone who doesnt know what he is doing, or its very very outdated, or its combined with some other manual work on the sources.list, which you should not do on ubuntu anyway.
[21:33] <ppf> insty: as per the nautilus problem: you need to enable this in the preferences
[21:33] <insty> ppf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24016061/
[21:34] <mike602> lol okay..
[21:34] <dax> (in Debian you have to also edit sources.list, but then it works fine. but yeah, don't do that on Ubuntu, use do-release-upgrade)
[21:34] <mike602> i'm not sure lol
[21:34] <TheSDCard> hi :)
[21:34] <k1l> mike602: the terminal command to upgrade to the new ubuntu release is "do-release-upgrade". as already told ubuntu doesnt use apt(-get) for that
[21:35] <ppf> insty: yes, the script or it's setup is broken
[21:35] <mike602> k1l:  oh yeah? hm gotcha
[21:35] <ppf> its setup even
[21:35] <mike602> so confusing lol
[21:35] <insty> ppf, I just got it from GitHub
[21:36] <mike602> so everytime you want to uprade your system then you should really run "sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade; sudo apt full-upgrade" right?
[21:36] <ppf> then confer their setup instructions or complain
[21:36] <nicomachus> mike602: you can just do sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:36] <ppf> insty: anyways. in nautilus settings, on the Behaviour tab, select the executable file behavior you'd like
[21:36] <k1l> mike602: scratch taht sudo apt upgrade in the middle. that is doubled work
[21:36] <mike602> okay
 sudo apt-get install python-configobj
[21:37] <marketa> hello! I have a laptop with i3 CPU, how is it possible that lspci doesnt show the integrated intel GPU ??
[21:37] <insty> ppf, where is this behavior tab
[21:37] <marketa> only the dedicated radeon one
[21:37] <insty> I did ~ $ sudo chmod u+x your_file.py
[21:37] <ppf> insty: in the nautilus settings
[21:38] <insty> and then it worked, from console
[21:38] <mike602> just ran the sudo apt full-upgrade and it didn't update/upgrade anything. I'm telling you I get kernel updates via the apt udpate; apt upgrade lol
[21:38] <Fendaris> wifi still keeps dieing, hm.
[21:41] <Fendaris> driver=ath10k_pci driverversion=4.4.0-62-generic firmware=WLAN.RM.2.0-00180-QCARMSWPZ-1
[21:41] <insty> ppf, okay, I found the behavior tab, choose ask every time, but double click in nautilus does not launch the program. however, calling the script from console does.
[21:42] <Fendaris> is there a way to sort lsmod alphabeticallyß
[21:42] <ppf> Fendaris: lsmod | sort
[21:42] <Mouse42> Hi!  16.04: I want ul(1) to process 8859-1 text rather than whatever it is trying to do now (presumably UTF-8).  What do I need to do?  I've tried setting LANG=C, LOCALE=C, LOCALE=en_US.foo for various foo such as 8859-1, ISO8859-1, ISO-8859-1...I assume I'm just missing something, but what?
[21:44] <Fendaris> I see three entries named like the driver: ath10k_core           311296  1 ath10k_pci; ath10k_pci             45056  0; ath                    32768  1 ath10k_core  is that ok?
[21:44] <insty> does ubuntu have a hibernate
[21:44] <Fendaris> some guide says if I see two drivers i should blacklist one
[21:45] <ppf> insty: sure
 just open gedit and before open the file choose the 8859-1 (add it first if not there)
 don't try to open the file with gedit... just start gedit and then choose (after adding it) the encoding from down-left corner
[21:47] <koleygr> then save as utf-8
[21:47] <Mouse42> koleygr, what file?  The text is being output by another program, not sitting in a file.  Converting the 8859-1 to UTF-8 is of no help unless (a) it's done with a filter and (b) there's a filter to convert back.
 Sorry... i thought it was a file... but you can try save it in a file... I will read again your problem
[21:48] <Fendaris> rfkill list all gives a 1: phy0: Wireless Lan Soft blocked: no, hard  blocked: no. Is that ok?
[21:50] <\9> Mouse42: it's possible to do encoding conversions on the commandline using iconv
[21:51] <Mouse42> Hm, I'll check the manpage, that might be usable as a workaround.
[21:51] <\9> Mouse42: in your case it'd probably be command |iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8 |ul
[21:51] <wafflejock> Fendaris, rfkill output looks good just means no hardware switch is set to off
[21:52] <Mouse42> well, iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8 | ul | iconv -f utf-8 -t iso-8859-1...I'll check the manpage, as I said.
[21:54] <Mouse42> Curious.  I'm still getting "ul: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character", even with that.  Maybe I'll have to pull in a ul from elsewhere.  I was hoping to avoid that.
[21:55] <Fendaris> @wafflejock my wifi still keeps stopping transmitting data after a few minutes until i manually reset it
[21:55] <Fendaris> and my wifi connection says 1Mb/s which doesnt make any sense
[21:55] <insty> can i use virt-manager to manage vms
[21:56] <insty> in xen
[21:56] <wafflejock> Fendaris, yeah not sure usually you do just want 1 kernel module loaded for a given piece of hardware but maybe different for some wireless cards
[21:57] <wafflejock> Fendaris, you may want to try blacklisting some of those though it's relatively harmless to try
[21:58] <wafflejock> Fendaris, you probably want to check syslog and/or dmesg and/or journalctl for errors when it stops working to see what the failure is too but a little strange having 3 modules loaded for that wireless nic
[21:59] <Fendaris> how do i check the syslog?
[22:01] <wafflejock> Fendaris, it's just a file in /var/log so cat /var/log/syslog or tail -f /var/log/syslog, can just run dmesg to see the most recent messages
[22:01] <hoagies> check dmesg first.  $dmesg, and give password if it asks
[22:04] <Fendaris> Oh nice, dmsg shows this: [ 3965.748195] ath10k_pci 0000:09:00.0: firmware crashed! (uuid 19425263-dbf0-43a7-8ea4-033f6ed37037)
[22:04] <marioxcc> Hello. How can I restore Firefox saved passwords from a backup?. I am following https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Install-and-Update/Recovering-important-data-from-an-old-profile/ta-p/1007. I copied key3.db, but there is no "logins.json".
[22:05] <XMG> marioxcc, you need 3 files
[22:05] <alawi> aa
[22:05] <Fendaris> So, now we know my wifi driver is crashing.  Pretty cool. =D but what to do about it? http://dumptext.com/J9K2DLDy
[22:06] <hoagies> cool, now google something like ath10k_pci firmware crash, and hopefully you'll find some peeps that have had that same problem before with some answers
[22:07] <Fendaris> hahaha. Found a thread with a few people reporting this crash. Here is the first solution someone proposed: I gave up and purchased an Intel 7265 AC m.2 wifi card for my laptop last night, bluetooth and wifi both working fine with that now.
[22:08] <insty> why is virtualization so confusing
[22:09] <insty> it-s 2017
[22:11] <nacc> insty: yes, you point virsh at xen:// iirc
[22:11] <ppf> exactly, everyone's moved on to containers, now!
[22:11] <nacc> insty: but i also don't know why you are using xen
[22:11] <nacc> insty: what do you find confusing?
[22:11] <insty> nacc, I don-t know what virsh is
[22:11] <nacc> insty: libvirt's cli
[22:11] <nacc> insty: virt-manager is just a wrapper for the same, iirc
[22:12] <Fendaris> echo "options ath10k_core skip_otp=Y" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath10k_core.conf <-- what does this do?
[22:12] <Fendaris> oh, interesting. Something about a bluetooth issue... I did add a bluetooth mouse since I last used linux
[22:12] <insty> nacc, okay, I know virtmanager
[22:12] <nacc> insty: virt-manager -c xen:///
[22:12] <nacc> insty: something along those lines, i believe
[22:12] <insty> nacc, I-m running ubuntu on top of xen atm
[22:13] <insty> I can open virtmanager and manager more vm-s but not this one_
[22:13] <nacc> insty: i don't know what you mean by 'more vm-s'
[22:13] <ppf> Fendaris: it makes ath10k_core load with the skip_otp option set
[22:13] <insty> nacc, when I open virtmanager its like  a virtual box
[22:14] <Fendaris> haha, I just tried to do what this guy says here >> Mine was still crashing on 5G prior to upgrading the system with pacman -Syu which upgraded my kernel to 6.6.1-2-ARCH ...
[22:14] <insty> i can create and delete vms
[22:14] <insty> and run them
[22:14] <Fendaris> what i did was pacman -Syu in terminal
[22:14] <Fendaris> it complained that pacman isnt installed.. so i did sudo apt install pacman
[22:14] <Henster> hey guys
[22:14] <nacc> Fendaris: pacman is not an ubuntu tool
[22:14] <Fendaris> then pacman -Syu ... and it opened a pacman game which i could play
[22:14] <k1l_> Fendaris: dont run pacman on ubuntu
[22:14] <Henster> anybofy evder isntalled ubuntu server on a samsung galaxy 5?
[22:15] <k1l_> Fendaris: you know this isnt arch, do you?
[22:15] <nacc> insty: yes
[22:15] <Fendaris> i am a complete linux newbie, with some wierd wifi driver crash. So I am stumbling around a little bit
[22:15] <Henster> @k1l_ are you talking to me>?
[22:15] <insty> nacc, but this ubnutu I am running on top of xen right now, does not show up in virt manager
[22:15] <k1l_> Henster: no, i didnt use your nick at first.
[22:16] <nacc> insty: where are you running virt-manager? in the ubuntu VM?
[22:16] <Henster> lol right sorry bro
[22:16] <nacc> insty: what URI are you connecting virt-manager to?
[22:16] <insty> nacc, yes
[22:16] <k1l_> Henster: and you cant put ubuntu server on your samsung galaxy 5 nativly.
[22:16] <ppf> Henster: so you want to use your cellphone as a server? :D
[22:16] <insty> nacc, I mean, I think this ubuntu is dom0
[22:16] <nacc> insty: so from other VMs on the same host, you see the host's VMs?
[22:16] <nacc> insty: that's not what you said
[22:16] <Fendaris> To be honest: I think buying a different wifi modem is the easiest solution...
[22:17] <nacc> insty: dom0 is xen itself, aiui, so you're not running ubuntu on top of xen, you're running ubuntu as a xen server
[22:17] <Henster> @k1l_ but i dont want to install another app ,, can i place it on the harddrive without android ?
[22:17] <insty> nacc, grub gives me the option to run ubunto normally or to run it on top of xen. I am running it on top of xen.
[22:17] <nacc> insty: and I *really* don't know why you'd want to do that
[22:17] <Henster> @ppf yeah i want to use it as a server
[22:17] <nacc> insty: but if you are running it as dom0, then of course ubuntu won't show up as a VM
[22:17] <nacc> insty: it's not a VM, it's dom0
[22:17] <insty> nacc, got it
[22:17] <k1l_> Henster: no. on arm devices like the smartphones you cant just install an OS like you can on the PC. its a driver nightmare.
[22:18] <rek> hello, do you know how can i have my usb in otg mode at the boot without using the settings program coman to enable it?
[22:18] <insty> nacc, I just wanted a way to manage local vms
[22:18] <nacc> insty: do you need to use xen?
[22:18] <Henster> @k1l_ i thought the rasbery pi sorted that out for us ? ugg should i just a pi then > lol
[22:18] <insty> nacc, and run them concurrently  as type1
[22:18] <ppf> Henster: there's more devices in there than just the processor
[22:19] <k1l_> Henster: no, the rpi only got some of their drivers open sourced. but not even they got all drivers. you still need binary blobs there.
[22:19] <insty> nacc, I don't know that I do, but ike you said, this is giving me a dom0, which is necessary
[22:19] <insty> nacc, otherwise I-d need a separate machine?
[22:20] <nacc> insty: no, dom0 is a xen thing
[22:20] <nacc> insty: if you just need to run VMs locally you absolutely don't need Xen
[22:20] <insty> nacc, explain what does run locally mean
[22:20] <nacc> insty: and presuming your CPU supports KVM, then all you need is that
[22:20] <nacc> insty: on your machine.
[22:21] <insty> nacc, but i need some GUI to manage them
[22:21] <nacc> insty: why? then use virt-manager
[22:21] <ppf> or virtualbox
[22:21] <nacc> insty: i feel like you need to go do some basic education possibly
[22:21] <nacc> insty: on virtualization options and decide which is best for you
[22:22] <insty> nacc, so, I run ubnutu, either on metal or ad dom0, and use virt manager to manages other vm-s
[22:22] <nacc> insty: why do you keep saying 'other vms'?
[22:22] <nacc> insty: if you install ubuntu on metal all VMs are 'other VMs'
[22:23] <nacc> insty: but on metal means you can do whatever you want as VMs go
[22:23] <nacc> insty: dom0 implies xen
[22:23] <nacc> insty: virt-manager can support either
[22:23] <insty> nacc, right now I have the option to run the same ubuntu on metal or on xen
[22:23] <insty> in grub
[22:24] <nacc> insty: probably because you installed xen
[22:24] <insty> nacc, yes, and you are saying I can run KVM instead
[22:25] <Slie> So I have no network on my ubuntu box but I want to ssh into it any ideas of what direction I should go?
[22:26] <nacc> insty: yes, if you installed xen, then i assume you wnat to use xen
[22:26] <nacc> insty: if you don't know that you need to use xen, don't install it.
[22:26] <insty> nacc, I was using xen before citrix bought it, it had a GUI thin layer and let you manage and run VMs concurrently
[22:26] <k1l_> Slie: why dont you have any network on your box when you want to ssh to it?
[22:27] <Slie> Linux isn't live boot with the network card I guess.
[22:27] <insty> nacc, it installed as its own iso/distro
[22:27] <insty> nacc, I-m really just trying to replicate that same functionality
[22:27] <k1l_> Slie: so its a liveusb?
[22:27] <Slie> sorry, ubuntu isn't bootable with the wireless card. neither is gentoo. i'll just find it and load it after i get the system installed on there.
[22:28] <Slie> No not anymore. i'ts a full install through the GUI installer.
[22:28] <k1l_> Slie: no chance of adding a ethernet cable? most times that the easiest method to install the needed drivers
[22:30] <Slie> oh yeah nevermind ubuntu wont install without a network connection
[22:34] <k1l_> Slie: it does
[22:35] <Slie> so i would like to ssh into it after i get it installed.
[22:35] <ordertochaos> Slie: no network connection, no ssh connection
[22:38] <k1l_> Slie: then install the openssh-server package
[22:44] <Mouse42> p/quit
[22:46] <Xubuntu_Dude> alrighty now
[22:52] <Xubuntu_Dude> SO far so good
[22:52] <Xubuntu_Dude> Yeha it's NASCAR rcing time
[22:52] <AlloaPark25> zzzz zz
[22:53] <Xubuntu_Dude> kinda slow in here
[22:53] <AlloaPark25> yup....
[22:53] <Xubuntu_Dude> just got back on with new install
[22:54] <k1l_> Xubuntu_Dude: if there is no support request in a technical support channel, that is a good sign :)  for chatter we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:55] <rxbad> does anyone knows a job in Lisbon
[22:55] <Xubuntu_Dude> gotcha just seein if someone was on from earlier
[22:55] <Xubuntu_Dude> we'll head over there
[22:55] <OerHeks> rxbad, check out ubuntu careers perhaps?
[22:57] <OerHeks> free support is needed urgently
[22:57] <rxbad> anyone to chat
[22:58] <rxbad> bye
[23:04] <arog> hey i have a basic terminal question. if i do ipcs i see a list of all open shared memories that my program created. Unfortunately there isa bug in my code that I forgot to delete those shared memory segments. Is it possible to write a quick scrip that goes through all the shm in ipcs and calls ipcrm -m key_id?
[23:05] <nacc> arog: yes, that's possible.
[23:05] <nacc> arog: i'm not sure that it's a very good question -- most things are possible
[23:05] <Photon> Whenever I try to run tmux it breaks, telling me that nothing is a command. It happened randomly: http://pastebin.com/u9ZQqyif
[23:07] <arog> nacc i need help writing that script :)
[23:08] <nacc> !alis | arog: you may want to find a better channel for that, not really a support request
[23:08] <nacc> arog: but you probably don't want to delete *all* shm, only the ones your program leaked
[23:11] <arog> yeah
[23:13] <arog> thanks
[23:13] <arog> ill ask in bash
[23:13] <Photon> Whenever I try to run tmux it breaks, telling me that nothing is a command. It happened randomly: http://pastebin.com/u9ZQqyif
[23:14] <OerHeks> arog lsof? http://blog.tanelpoder.com/2009/01/22/identifying-shared-memory-segment-users-using-lsof/
[23:14] <apes> For Ubuntu 14.04, what service does dhclient run under?
[23:15] <apes> I would like to reload it if it's config changes in puppet, but I'm not clear on how the service is managed
[23:15] <nacc> apes: 14.04 used upstart
[23:17] <apes> nacc: I don't see any upstart service managing dhclient though
[23:17] <apes> So something weird is going on
[23:17] <OerHeks> sudo dhclient -r && sudo client # The -r flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the lease has been released, the client exits
[23:19] <OerHeks> or specify adapter sudo dhclient -r eth0
[23:20] <OerHeks> ( maybe there is a more elegant solution to reset)
[23:21] <Fendaris> I think I messed up installing a boost. Could somebody be so kind to take me through the process of installing/uninstalling a second to see if I mess something up?
[23:21] <nacc> Fendaris: how did you install it?
[23:23] <Photon> Whenever I try to run tmux it breaks, telling me that nothing is a command. It happened randomly: http://pastebin.com/u9ZQqyif
[23:25] <billymichael> im having an issue where sometimes my mouse focus gets stuck on my window until i go to terminal view (ctrl+alt+f6) and back to desktop view (ctrl+alt+f7). Any ideas why this sometimes happens?
[23:26] <billymichael> Once the focus is stuck the desktop will no longer respond to mouse clicks
[23:26] <nacc> billymichael: anything in dmesg when it does?
[23:27] <billymichael> Will i need to check when it is actually happening? or can i check now (it happened mayube 15 mins ago..
[23:27] <nacc> billymichael: it depends, but it doesn't hurt to look
[23:27] <Fendaris> @nacc: unfortunately in a variety of ways by now xD
[23:28] <Fendaris> which is great... good opportunity to get a better ubuntu understanding
[23:28] <nacc> Fendaris: that's probably your first mistake ... did you do those ways as root or as your user?
[23:28] <nacc> Fendaris: (sudo would be as root as well)
[23:28] <Fendaris> partially yes
[23:28] <Fendaris> so I should be able to deinstall it though
[23:29] <billymichael> Should i be looking for anything in particular?
[23:29] <Fendaris> I thought I deinstalled it, and reinstalled 1.55. But when I run cmake, it says Boost Version 1.58.0
[23:29] <nacc> Fendaris: as root, you can easily do things taht break your system and are not recoverable, just a word of warnig
[23:29] <nacc> Fendaris: so if you do something as root, you should know 100% what it does and why and not doing it otherwise
[23:29] <Fendaris> I already broke it a few times while installing tensorflow on an enthusiast system as a complete linux beginner xD
[23:30] <Fendaris> but  got that to run eventually
[23:30] <apes> Anyone know how dhclient get started/daemonized on Ubuntu? I'm not seing a service around it in either 14.04 or 16.04.
[23:31] <nacc> apes: on 16.04 desktop, pstree indicates lxd and networkmanager start it
[23:31] <nacc> apes: `pstree` may help you out
[23:31] <Fendaris> i ll first try to delete the folder of what i am trying to build, and rebuild it cleanly, to see if cmake detects my prefered boost version
[23:33] <Fendaris> stupid question: how do I find my /usr/local/ folder?
[23:33] <nacc> Fendaris: what do you mean?
[23:33] <nacc> Fendaris: it's /usr/local.
[23:34] <Fendaris> my terminal says name@name:~$
[23:34] <Fendaris> do I just go cd /usr/local?
[23:34] <nacc> Fendaris: you asked where an absolute path was ... sort of nonsensical
[23:34] <apes> nacc: Where did you get the lxd and networkmanager from pstree?
[23:34] <Fendaris> ah nice :D
[23:34] <nacc> Fendaris: yes?
[23:35] <nacc> apes: on my 16.10 system, `pstree | less` and looked for dhclient and then walked up the tree
[23:35] <k1l_> Fendaris: if a path starts with /path/to/somewhere it always means: starts at / (rootfolder) which is the lowest base.
[23:35] <apes> nacc: dhclient just appears as a child of systemd for me
[23:35] <Fendaris> so I did this: ./bootstrap.sh --prefix=/usr/local when I installed boost... is there an easy way to tell where it is inside there? does it get put into lib?
[23:35] <nacc> apes: are you on a server?
[23:35] <apes> Yes
[23:35] <Fendaris> there is no boost folder in /usr/local
[23:35] <nacc> apes: ah, that'd be the difference, i'm on a desktop
[23:35] <k1l_> Fendaris: if its path/to/somewhere it means starting from the path where you are, or its a typo and the first / was forgotten :)
[23:36] <nacc> Fendaris: it will have installed to multiple directories within /usr/local
[23:36] <nacc> Fendaris: as --prefix just says here is what you should preifx to all your install directories
[23:36] <nacc> Fendaris: you can't ascertain what they all are without knowing what the installer did
[23:36] <Fendaris> my goal is to figure out which boost files I have. Do i have 1.58 and 1.55 installed, or only one or neither. I thought I can check the folders, but am unsure where they are
[23:36] <nacc> Fendaris: hence my -- if you don't know what something is going to do as root, don't do it.
[23:37] <Fendaris> well, but i know which install commands i used
[23:37] <k1l_> !info libboost-all-dev xenial
[23:37] <nacc> Fendaris: do you know what those commands did?
[23:37] <Fendaris> Absolutely not, but I thought they are standard ubuntu commands?
[23:37] <nacc> Fendaris: uh
[23:37] <nacc> Fendaris: a script you ran
[23:37] <Fendaris> I mean this for example: sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[23:37] <wedgie> there are a lot of "standard" commands that can do terrible things to your system
[23:38] <Fendaris> how can i read the install script of this sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev?
[23:38] <nacc> Fendaris: you never ran that install script
[23:38] <k1l_> Fendaris: a sledgehammer is a standard tool. but if you use it on your car, its not a good use :)
[23:38] <nacc> Fendaris: nad it doesn't put anyting in /usr/local
[23:38] <Fendaris> i ran that, too, nacc
[23:38] <nacc> Fendaris: ran what too?
[23:38] <Fendaris> How do I figure out where sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev goes? as i used that and it "infected" me with the wrong versio nthat I dont need xD
[23:39] <Fendaris> also I thought I uninstalled it and it should be gone
[23:39] <nacc> Fendaris: dpkg -L libboost-all-dev
[23:39] <Fendaris> dpkg -S /usr/include/boost/version.hpp sudo apt-get autoremove package
[23:39] <Fendaris> I did this
[23:39] <Fendaris> which is supposed to delete boost
[23:39] <nacc> Fendaris: well, that line on its own is nonsense, i'm assuming you used a pipe or a script
[23:39] <wedgie> -S searches...
[23:39] <yakiza> Hello everyone i  have just bought an ssd and i put my system on my ssd from my old harddrive and  i have installed the same proprietary drivers for my graphics card and they dont work my coumputer wont even start properly any help
[23:39] <yakiza> ?
[23:40] <Fendaris> it s two lines
[23:40] <nacc> Fendaris: what did you put for 'package'?
[23:40] <Fendaris> the description said the first line finds the boost package, and the second one removes it
[23:40] <Fendaris> nothing
[23:40] <nacc> ...
[23:40] <Fendaris> i just left it as package, which is apparently wrong judging from your answer xD
[23:40] <nacc> Fendaris: i feel like you should read the ubuntu manual or some basic scripting things
[23:40] <nacc> Fendaris: and not c&p random things from the internet as root
[23:41] <nacc> Fendaris: in that particular case, it wanted you to use the first command to find a package name and use the second command to remove it
[23:41] <nacc> Fendaris: instead you attempted to autoremove something called 'package'
[23:41] <Fendaris> ah nvm, i remembered that wrong. I already figured out that i need to put the name of the package
[23:41] <nacc> Fendaris: which, if you looked at the output from apt in that case, would be pretty obvious
[23:41] <Fendaris> I did that, and I am repeating it now to remove sudo apt-get autoremove libboost1.58-dev
[23:41] <nacc> Fendaris: ok, what package name did you use?
[23:42] <Henster> hey man you know ehn you cp a file and use -R -v i which it showd a bar of the current file size that im copyig  like when you use wget
[23:42] <Fendaris> >> Removing openmpi-common (1.10.2-8ubuntu1) ...
[23:42] <Fendaris>  .... and so on and so on .... is it gone now?
[23:42] <Henster> lol i jsut called everyine hey man
[23:42] <Fendaris> ok it s gone :)
[23:42] <nacc> Fendaris: 'autoremove' does not typically take any arguments
[23:42] <Fendaris> Package 'libboost1.58-dev' is not installed
[23:42] <Fendaris> it worked, i deinstalled 1.58
[23:43] <nacc> Fendaris: you remove something, then you autoremove packages (without any specification) that are no longer needed
[23:43] <Fendaris> ah, ok. So that's the proper way to go about it? How do you "remove something" without autoremove?
[23:43] <nacc> Fendaris: apt remove <pkgname>
[23:44] <SunSparc> When packaging an app if I put a file in "debian/service" it will end up installed at "/lib/systemd/system/[package-name].service". Is there an equivalent for a unit.path file?
[23:44] <Fendaris> but now i dont need to do that, because dpgk -S finds no  boost anymore?
[23:44] <genii> If you want the packages conf files and other things gone, use purge
[23:44] <Fendaris> it s gone
[23:44] <Fendaris> ...but it is impossible to use sudo apt install to get an older version of boost? I have to do that manually?
[23:46] <Fendaris> Yes! :-) Cmake doesn't find boost 1.58 anymore. it's gone =D
[23:46] <Fendaris> ...now... if I could just manage to install 1.55 properly...
[23:46] <nacc> Fendaris: `apt-cache policy <pkgname>` will tell you what you can install
[23:47] <nacc> Fendaris: 1.55 is only available officially on 14.04
[23:47] <Fendaris> oh, how do i figure out again if a version older than 1.58 is available on ubuntu 16.04?
[23:47] <Fendaris> dont tell me there is none, please xD
[23:47] <nacc> Fendaris: apt-cache search probably
[23:48] <nacc> Fendaris: and officially there is none
[23:48] <Fendaris> open source just never works officially
[23:48] <phormat> hi. how do i upgrade form ubuntu 16.04 LTS to 16.04.02 LTS using apt-get?
[23:48] <cfhowlett> phormat, sudo apt full-uprgrade
[23:48] <k1l_> phormat: just run "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[23:48] <cfhowlett> *upgrade
[23:49] <phormat> thx
[23:49] <yakiza> Hello everyone i  have just bought an ssd and i put my system on my ssd from my old harddrive and  i have installed the same proprietary drivers for my graphics card and they dont work my coumputer wont even start properly any help
[23:49] <nacc> Fendaris: that's FUD
[23:51] <SunSparc> Any packaging gurus here?
[23:51] <cfhowlett> !packaging | SunSparc
[23:52] <SunSparc> cfhowlett: Thanks
[23:52] <cfhowlett> happy2help!  cool name btw
[23:52] <craptalk> i am seeking info around MBR partition, my question is, does windows able to be installed in the Harddisk other than primary partition? since linux can be installed in logical partition
[23:52] <SunSparc> cfhowlett: Gotta love that Sun hardware. ;)
[23:53] <nacc> SunSparc: i believe dh-systemd handles that partiular case
 You can use gpt partition table and have as much primary partitions as you want
[23:54] <phormat> cfhowlett: how do i verify that i now indeed have ubuntu 16.04.2 and not 16.04? System settings > Details shows 16.04
[23:54] <craptalk> koleygr: i get your point, but i am currently using MBR
[23:54] <SunSparc> nacc: Thank you
[23:54] <craptalk> and asking about MBR
[23:54] <craptalk> can windows be installed in ext partition?
[23:54] <nacc> phormat: do the upgrade, reboot, lsb_release -a (iirc), but note that 16.04.2 is mostly relevant for fresh installs
[23:55] <nacc> phormat: and if you are upgrading, you will need to manually enable HWE if you want
[23:55] <craptalk> i have read that it cant
[23:55] <craptalk> is that true?
[23:55] <phormat> nacc: thanks
[23:55] <dax> craptalk: Windows needs a primary partition, I believe
[23:55] <dax> craptalk: ##windows would probably know better
[23:57] <davidj> Alright, dumb question time. Fresh ubuntu installation. Nothing installed aside from a couple of python/pip3 packages, smartmontools & gsmartmonitor (sp?). Anyways. ~10am this morning rolls around, and suddenly my computer starts blaring alarm-like sounds. I audited my syslogs, and there's lots of pulseaudio/alsa stuff around the time it occurred, but
[23:57] <davidj> nothing stupidly obvious.
[23:57] <davidj> Any thoughts?
[23:57] <davidj> I should note, I have no scheduling apps/alarms of any sort configured.
 It suggested that you first insatll windows and after that linux... because sometimes it doesn't even ask ant takes all the space for windows... You will probably need a new install of everything... So just don't forget to keep buck ups and if you do a new install of everything try a gpt