[00:22] BTW if anyone needs testers for something, I'm on a 3 day weekend at home with Zesty on my netbook. Just ping me if needed [03:41] Clive and Rik: phab task updated with qt4/kde deps. Let me know if you think I missed something and I will search them again. https://phabricator.kde.org/T5188 [03:44] Side note: kdegraphics-strigi-analyze is on the Zesty seed list but is missing. Not sure if kdegraphics-mobipocket or kdegraphics-thumbnailers replace it. [03:46] * DarinMiller sighs.... still can't create his own *buntu website...waiting for wiki edit approval... [05:52] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170219) [05:52] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170219) [09:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [09:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kstars build #767: FIXED in 12 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kstars/767/ [10:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kstars build #112: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kstars/112/ [10:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kstars build #381: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kstars/381/ [10:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kstars build #247: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kstars/247/ [11:37] Hiyas all [11:52] morning [11:52] 'Morning santa_ [12:06] morning [12:07] 'Morning acheronuk [12:08] * acheronuk smells Sunday lunch cooking [12:08] ** stomach rumbles ** [12:09] daylight here ...sunrise [12:12] clivejo: applets/kicker/package/contents/config/main.xml [12:13] 37: preferred://browser,kontact.desktop,systemsettings.desktop,org.kde.dolphin.desktop,ktp-contactlist.desktop,org.kde.kate.desktop,org.kde.discover [12:14] clivejo: so either patch that to change the defaults, or works out an override file if such exists [12:23] santa_: 'afternoon' now ;) [12:23] I may be about later, but not for most of the afternoon I expect. [12:27] ok [13:43] Good afternoon [13:47] hi [14:06] Hey santa_, how are you? [14:24] lordievader: fine thank you, working on a packagekit/plasma discover issue... [14:40] nice to see stuff moving again! http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.31_zesty_proposed_migration.pdf [14:41] next issue seems to be kf5-kdepim-apps-libs due to the gpgme issue? [14:42] any progress on getting fixed gpgme uploaded? [14:48] clivejo: indeed that's the main blocker right now. I have sent a proposed fix to the bug report, let me find the link [14:49] clivejo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpgme1.0/+bug/1647204/comments/44 [14:49] Launchpad bug 1647204 in gpgme1.0 (Ubuntu) "1.8.0-2 FTBFS in zesty 17.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:51] clivejo: going to #ubuntu-release since we need an upload/feedback for this fix [14:51] did anyone re-sub the sponsor team on the LP bug? [14:52] great work on fixing it BTW [14:52] dunno [14:52] thanks [15:07] santa_: Good luck ;) [15:07] thanks [15:34] acheronuk: boot repair fixed my grub issue [16:48] santa_ acheronuk you there? [16:48] yes [16:49] what are your thoughts on that convo in -release? [16:54] we can discuss it there directly I think [16:54] but I think id we can get all applications to the same version that would be terrific [16:55] agreed, but is it doable? [16:56] on our side it is [16:57] I know PIM 16.12 is working great [16:57] I mean we can build all the packages in the ppa's and we have both the web status page + the new experimental graphs [16:57] I've been using it for months now [16:57] and we also have my tritemio invention to deal with the autopkgtests [16:58] * clivejo nods [16:59] seems like first step is file a FFE [17:10] tsimonq2: ping [17:23] santa_: do you have applications archive reports for proposed_migration? [17:24] clivejo: nope but I can enable them, give me a few minutes to tweak some things in the iron hand [17:36] clivejo: ok, I have been diggin a but into it: https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/iron-hand/ I need to do #5 from TODO and #4 from graphs whishlist to make the graph in question useful [17:37] and probably I should deal with #3 from wishlist soon too [17:37] santa_: no hurry on it, just for handiness sake on my part! [17:40] clivejo: well I'm kind of hurry to get it, btw I'm retrying some builds individually to make a good assesment on what needs to be done for apps [19:11] @clivejo, HAIYA [19:11] @clivejo, Pong a long long [20:16] clivejo: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/applications_archive/16.12.1_zesty_proposed_migration.pdf [20:17] I have also updated the wiki page explaining a bit how to use the tool in case you want to make your own [20:17] still need to work on the wrong version reporting + binary NEW packages [20:29] santa_: would that chart be correct? [20:30] clivejo: which one? [20:30] apps [20:30] ah, the proposed migration nvm [20:30] I kinda expected kontact to be at the top [20:30] for apps yes, the one I linked [20:30] let me check [20:31] clivejo: kontact doesn't even appear? [20:32] tsimonq2: sorry was AFK, was wondering if you would take on doing the paperwork for a FFe for KDE PIM [20:32] it seems to be in the 2nd last layer [20:32] 3rd from bottom [20:32] clivejo: Catch me up and certainly [20:32] tsimonq2, clivejo: please hold that FFE, they are issues to fix first [20:32] What's where and what do you want where? [20:32] santa_: Ok [20:33] clivejo: Catch me up either way so I can at least get a draft for the paperwork [20:33] we had a chat with release team [20:33] sure, if you want to work on a draft, go ahead please [20:34] we have been holding off on release KDE PIM 16.12 due to issues with gpgme [20:34] but note that we are having some build failures which we need to investigate to have a clear judgement of the feasibility of this [20:34] clivejo: going back to the apps graphs let me recheck... [20:35] and commitment on getting the 20+ new packages which have been split out [20:35] but they are other issues with qtwebengine [20:37] santa_: what sort of issues? [20:38] arch? [20:38] yes [20:39] ok, about the graph I have just found kontact and doesn't seem i an odd place to me [20:39] note that an edge a -> b means you need the package a to build b [20:40] so it's about build depends, not runtime depends if that's what's tricking you [20:40] I guess kontact doesnt have to have the sub components to work [20:41] I noticed when I install kjots it just added more functionality to kontact [21:03] clivejo: I'm digging into the apps state. can we please have a mini meeting before the ffe? [21:03] they are also symbols files with missing symbols so those need to be either updated or the soname bumped [21:03] something concerning you? [21:04] yes, so far [21:04] they do need work done as the symbols are basically only for amd64 at the moment [21:05] need to be staged properly and worked on [21:05] 1. like I have just said some symbols issues which need to be worked on [21:05] indeed [21:05] 2. the qwebengine is only building on some archs due to the v8 javascript engine not being available on those archs [21:06] 3. we need to get sorted completely the gpgme issue because some stuff seems to be exporting less symbols because of that [21:07] 4. we have to check the autopkgtests [21:09] last check: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_applications.htmlhttp://gpul.grupos.udc.es/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_applications.htmlhttp://gpul.grupos.udc.es/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_applications.html [21:09] oops, sorry :( [21:09] http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_applications.html [21:12] clivejo: opinion on 2. ? (since the other issues seem feasible to do) [21:14] well upstream only seem to care about amd64 and i386 [21:15] as long as it works on those, how many people will want PIM on an IBM Mainframe? [21:16] if that's not going to block us, that's great [21:16] but Im not sure how the AA will view it :/ [21:16] the AA? [21:17] Archive Admin [21:17] ah, ok [21:20] clivejo: k, all of that being said... what about a mini-meeting, let's say, tomorrow night about the ffe? just to make sure we are all on the same page and aware of the remaining issues to solve. is that ok with you? [21:21] I'm of course all for upgrading and willing to work to get our house in order to be able to make the upload :) [21:26] nice to come back to so much great work being done! \o/ [21:33] Id like acheronuk to be there too [21:33] sure, me too. that's one of the reasons to ask for the mini-meeting, to get his input [21:34] valorie: ;) [21:34] what worries me most is getting the NEW packages uploaded and accepted [21:34] yep [21:35] because it's an all or nothing thing [21:35] but chatting to apw in -release channel sounds like he would help us on that [21:35] anc since we are going to need other team's help, better if we have our house in order [21:36] I have the impression we will have their cooperation too [21:37] I know PIM 16.12 is working on amd64, as I been using it all along, but if the release team arent on board with us dropping other arch, then we might have a problem [21:37] that concerns me yes [21:38] if it's for me, well like you said I don't want to run kmail in an ibm mainfraime XD [21:38] btw hacking the iron hand to be able to discard some archs in the graphs [21:38] otherwise we won't be able to see the actual status of the thing [21:38] can the arch be limited via the control file? [21:39] ie only try to build this on amd64 and i386, ignore the rest? [21:39] Yes [21:40] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebengine-opensource-src/5.7.1+dfsg-6 [21:40] We could even have a subst variable in pkg-kde-tools [21:40] seems to only be on amd64, armhf and i386 [21:43] why does it need libxnvctrl-dev, that's a NVidia thing isnt it? [21:45] dunno [21:45] I'm very new to this qtwebengine thing [22:48] ovidiuflorin: Ovi One, are you there?