[00:21] <DarinMiller> R13ose: In Kubuntu 17.04, the desktop will have the ability to configure Picture of the Day, with the ability to point to Astronomy, Earth Science, Flickr, Nationion Geo, NOAA, and Wikimedia.  Backport to the 16.10 and 16.04 MIGHT recieve these updates, but it may be a while if ever.
[00:23] <R13ose> DarinMiller: in April?
[00:24] <DarinMiller> Yes.  17 = 2017,  04 = month,
[00:25] <R13ose> DarinMiller: would what I want be a lot of bandwidth?
[00:26] <DarinMiller> As far as I can tell, it just loads 1 picture per day. So IMO, bandwith should be minimal.
[00:37] <R13ose> DarinMiller: I found one photo that is amazing so that is food enough thanks
[00:37] <DarinMiller> R13ose: very good. :)
[00:39] <R13ose> What else can I do to make everything better?
[00:43] <DarinMiller> R13ose: what version of Kubuntu?
[00:43] <R13ose> 16.10
[00:45] <DarinMiller> I recommend installing backports to minimize dual monitor issues and enable newer version of plasma.
[00:45] <R13ose> How do I do both of these?
[00:46] <DarinMiller> R13ose: Backport PPA info is found here: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[00:46] <DarinMiller> Let me know if you it makes sense.
[00:47] <DarinMiller> Bascially, run 3 commands in the terminal:
[00:47] <DarinMiller> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[00:47] <DarinMiller> sudo apt-get update
[00:47] <DarinMiller> sudo apt full-upgrade
[00:47] <DarinMiller> apt and apt-get serve the same function...
[00:50] <R13ose> What about plasma?
[00:50] <DarinMiller> Plasma updates are included in the ppa.
[00:51] <DarinMiller> check your currrent version of plasma, launch kinfo via krunnner (alt-spacebar)
[00:53] <DarinMiller> What is your current plasma version?
[00:53] <R13ose> I will look waiting for updates to finish
[00:54] <DarinMiller> When updates are complete, your plasma version should be 5.8.5 (but I don't recall the default version that shipped with 16.10).
[00:55] <R13ose> DarinMiller: yep it is 5.8.5 but I might have updated that earlier
[00:56] <R13ose> How do I get rid of all the ppa's that I don't use or fail when I update them?  I thought there was a command
[00:56] <DarinMiller> install ppa-purge
[00:56] <DarinMiller> http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed
[00:58] <DarinMiller> The people who package the Kubuntu PPA are very careful, so you should not have any issues.  If issues are discovered, please report them here!
[00:58] <R13ose> DarinMiller: no auto way to do this.  I already installed that
[01:00] <DarinMiller> You want to purge a ppa?
[01:00] <DarinMiller> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[01:00] <DarinMiller> sudo ppa-purge <ppa_name>
[01:00] <R13ose> Automatically yes if they are failing or not being used
[01:00] <R13ose> That is manual, I want auto
[01:02] <DarinMiller> you can disable the ppa via: sudo software-properties-kde
[01:04] <DarinMiller> but that will not purge/remove any installed packages.  You use Discover to remove packages individually if you discover issues. Once the PPA is disabled, re-installing the package will install the original version.
[01:05] <DarinMiller> Discover also provides a link to launch software-properties-kde if you prefer to avoid the terminal.
[01:06] <DarinMiller> Most solutions provided in this channel will reference command the command line options as they are much easier to communicate than attempting to navigate a user through a gui menu.
[01:09] <Adynathos> is this the right place for questions related to KDE development?
[01:11] <R13ose> DarinMiller: yes but seems no auto way to do this.
[01:11] <R13ose> DarinMiller: moving on, anything else I should do?
[01:11] <DarinMiller> Adynathos: For desktop development, check the #plasma channel.  For individual apploications, each app may have it's own channel.
[01:12] <DarinMiller> R13ose:   This is a list of stuff I install and configure on a new install: https://sites.google.com/site/bcelinux/classroom-news/kde1510configuration
[01:12] <DarinMiller> If you cannot see that link, I can pastebin the text.
[01:13] <Adynathos> thanks, i would actually want to make my own program using KDE KParts, and I am looking for some example application
[01:13] <Adynathos> the existing tutorial is for KDE4
[01:13] <Adynathos> and i see that for KF5, many include files changed names, and different classes are used
[01:14] <DarinMiller> Adynathos: I recommend finding an app with a interface similar to what you want and download that source package.
[01:15] <DarinMiller> Adynathos: kubuntu packages can be found here: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git
[01:16] <Adynathos> i looked at dolphin source and could probably find something there, but just wanted to ask if theres a nice tutorial somewhere so i don't miss it :)
[01:16] <R13ose> DarinMiller: which dpi do I choose?
[01:18] <DarinMiller> R13ose: DPI is a personal preference.  If you have hi dpi displays, you may need to use a dpi of 144 or 168 for comfortable viewing size of fonts and icons.
[01:19] <R13ose> DarinMiller: 96 is fine?
[01:19] <DarinMiller> If you display in not high dpi, you may want to force it to 96 or so.
[01:20] <DarinMiller> R13ose: 96 should  fine for full HD (1920x180) and lower.
[01:21] <DarinMiller> Set the dpi, hit apply then open file manger (Dolphin).
[01:21] <R13ose> Seems the same
[01:21] <DarinMiller> Adjust dpi until the menu fonts and text sizes are to your liking.
[01:22] <DarinMiller> You will need to relaunch Dolphin after each dpi adjustment.
[01:23] <R13ose> 96 is best
[01:23] <DarinMiller> Dpi also affects the kicker menus and will now be apparent until plasma is restarted.  (killall plasmashell &&  plasmashell &)  or just log out and in.
[01:26] <DarinMiller> not be apparent ^
[01:28] <R13ose> DarinMiller: how do I choose GTK3 by default?
[01:31] <R13ose> I get it sorry was reading wrong
[01:34] <DarinMiller> Breeze for GTK theme is fine now (before 16.10, the defaut GTK theme was incomplete and required updating.  I will update my notes...)
[01:44] <R13ose> DarinMiller: how do I get cascading menu on panel?
[01:45] <R13ose> What is meta?
[01:49] <DarinMiller> Right click on the "K" laucher (kicker laucher) icon and select alternatives.
[01:49] <DarinMiller> launcer^
[01:50] <DarinMiller> Meta = windows key (or racing flag as my aunt call it).  aka super key.
[01:53] <R13ose> DarinMiller:  I like dashboard
[01:54] <DarinMiller> Very good.  I like choices and KDE has lots of them.
[01:59] <R13ose> DarinMiller: where is task manager in kde menu editor?
[02:01] <oleg__> 1
[02:01] <oleg__> опять
[02:05] <DarinMiller> R13ose:  task manager is called ksysguard in the Systems menu.
[02:06] <DarinMiller> KDE naming can be quite confusing (as least is was for me for the 1st few months).
[02:08] <koffeinfriedhof> Hit Ctrl-ESC :)
[02:10] <R13ose> DarinMiller: the only other thing bugging me is sometimes the apps crash like a browser but if I go to a new tab or scroll down and go to a another app window and come it will be fine until I have to move again.  This has happened on the panel before.
[02:10] <DarinMiller> R13ose: Also, I am using the Windows name equivelant for the Systems monitor (ksysgaurd).  In KDE the panel has a taskmanager
[02:13] <DarinMiller> R13ose:  I don't understand.  You not able to move a window due to something crashing?
[02:14] <R13ose> DarinMiller: I believe so
[02:15] <jack>  I had to use nomodeset when booting to the live version of linux mint. I then installed it to my hard drive and rebooting. I am unable to log in becuase it freezes when I try. I think I need grahics drivers or to boot in nomodeset again, but I am not sure how to do this now that is installed, only how to boot into nomodeset from the live usb.  Does anyone know how to do this
[02:17] <DarinMiller> R13ose: That's sounds like a kwin crash.  You should not see those issues with backports installed (at least kwin has not crashed on me since I installed backports).
[02:17] <R13ose> DarinMiller: okay
[02:17] <DarinMiller> Kwin controls the "window decorations" or the frames around the application gui contents
[02:18] <R13ose> thanks that is all
[02:19] <DarinMiller> if that happens again, try running "kwin" from krunner or the terminal.  Although is should restart automatically when if it crashes.
[02:19] <DarinMiller> OK, R13ose have good day/evening/night :)
[02:19] <R13ose> DarinMiller: with backport?
[02:20] <DarinMiller> jack: yes, boot with nomodeset again and install graphics drivers.   Dual video card (NVidia and Intel) on a skylake laptop by chance?
[02:22] <DarinMiller> Another option to try is you want to avoid proprietary drivers in use modprobe.blacklist=nouvea in the boot line (assuming you have an NVidia and Intel card).
[02:24] <DarinMiller> R13ose: with or without backports:  as test  you can stop kwin (killall kwin or use ksysguard to kill it).  Then run "kwin &" from a terminal to restart it.
[02:25] <R13ose> Okay
[02:25] <R13ose> I am not using a superuser
[02:26] <DarinMiller> jack:  Do you need more precise instructions?
[02:27] <jack> it worked great thanks man everything works perfectly now
[02:27] <DarinMiller> jack:  wow, that was fast!
[02:28] <jack> now hopefully installing windows on the virtual machine works
[02:28] <DarinMiller> Yes, it works very well.  vbox or kvm?
[02:29] <DarinMiller> (or something else...)
[02:29] <jack> i'm not sure which to use do you have a recommendation
[02:30] <R13ose> Bbs
[02:31] <DarinMiller> Virtualbox is slightly more polished for a casual user.  KVM is more industrial and seems to be geared more toward sysadmins.  But both work very well.
[02:32] <jack> is there an app to get virtual box
[02:33] <jack> nvm i got it thank you!!!
[02:33] <DarinMiller> You can install the one from the repos but its a little old or you can dowload the latest here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[02:34] <jack> awesome thanks
[02:49] <Camaqui> Does graphics amd radeon r5 m240 supported by kubuntu?
[02:52] <jack> yes
[02:52] <Camaqui> Correction radeon r5 m430
[02:56] <jack> my mouse only has one button how do I make it so cntrl + click is the right click (in linuxmint) <darinmiller>
[10:43] <troffasky> ouch, i would just buy a new mouse :-)
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:55] <viewer|83480> hi, there!
[12:57] <viewer|83480> is anyone alive? :-)
 we are, but it is Sunday lunchtime. beef and roast potato calls ;)
[13:04] <acheronuk> !ask
[13:04] <user|43178> not working resolvconf on kubuntu 16.04
[13:05] <acheronuk> !forums
[13:05] <user|43178> thanks
[13:06] <acheronuk> and askubuntu. sorry. Sunday is quiet
[13:07] <BluesKaj> uhm I was about to ask him if he's using static IP, but too late
[13:43] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:33] <efm> hello
[14:35] <DarinMiller> hi
[15:07] <lordievader> o/
[15:54] <physios_> Hi
[15:54] <physios_> I need some help with my headset mic which is not working
[16:14] <physios_> anyone here? :P
 Be patient, ask and you shall receive ;)
[16:16] <physios_> Alrighty sorry :P
[16:17] <physios_> I have a problem with my headset's microphone and I've tried to unmute everything on pavucontrol and google it and I am lost and need help, so far no one has been able to help me
[16:17] <physios_> Not because they didn't try though :P
[16:24] <physios_> I need help with my headset's mic which isn't working
[17:02] <physios_> Hey guys, I have problems with my headset's mic and linux
[17:04] <BluesKaj> physios_, check alsamixer in the terminal and make sure the headphone ctl is not muted withMM and the volume is turned up, for starters,
[17:04] <physios_> BluesKaj: I did that already it still doesn't work
[17:05] <BluesKaj> also make sure the automute is disabled
[17:05] <BluesKaj> in alsamixer
[17:06] <BluesKaj> plus the mic ctls are all turned up of course ,
[17:07] <BluesKaj> use F6 to see the all the ctls , depends which mic input your using, some are hidden on the far right
[17:09] <BluesKaj> physios_, correct F5 for all the ctls
[17:10] <physios_> BluesKaj: Sorry just saw your message now
[17:11] <physios_> BluesKaj: It still isn't working
[17:12] <physios_> BluesKaj: It didn't work
[17:13] <BluesKaj> physios_, which audio chip?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> aplay -l will tell you
[17:14] <physios_> BluesKaj: On alsamixer it says HDA Intel PCH but on the motherboard specs it says RealTek ALC892
[17:14] <physios_> BluesKaj: aplay -l says... just a moment
[17:15] <physios_> BluesKaj: aplay -l says
[17:15] <physios_> sec
[17:15] <physios_> BluesKaj: aplay -l says http://termbin.com/1h90
[17:15] <BluesKaj> ph ok, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then logout and  back in
[17:16] <physios_> BluesKaj: Be right back
[17:16] <BluesKaj> there won't be any output if the driver loads properly
[17:22] <physios> I am back
[17:22] <physios> I don't remember your name :/
[17:23] <physios> Rusty?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> you're in too many chats :-)
[17:23] <ghretighoti> Not just rusty; never been here before.
[17:24] <BluesKaj> ghretighoti, not you...
[17:25] <physios> BluesKaj: Yea
[17:25] <physios> BluesKaj: No one seems to be able to help me
[17:25] <BluesKaj> physios, sometimes a reboot is required if the logout/in doesn't do it
[17:26] <physios> BluesKaj: Your fix didn't work too, I will try to reboot though just a moment
[17:26] <BluesKaj> the thing is mics can be iffy on windows and linux
[17:26] <physios> BluesKaj: Yea I know
[17:27] <physios> BluesKaj: Its a mic conspiracy
[17:27] <BluesKaj> and if you're using pulseaudio then check that as well in system settings multimedis audio hardware tab
[17:28] <physios> BluesKaj: ?
[17:28] <BluesKaj> are you runbning kubuntu, or an OS with KDE ?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> physios,^
[17:29] <physios> BluesKaj: I am currently running linux mint kde edition
[17:30] <physios> BluesKaj: Be right back going to reboot
[17:30] <BluesKaj> then I'm not sure I can help, mint might use different settings than what I'm familiar with
[17:34] <physios> BluesKaj: Just restarted
[17:34] <physios> BluesKaj: no audio
[17:34] <BluesKaj> physios, then I'm not sure I can help, mint might use different settings than kubuntu
[17:35] <physios> BluesKaj: Trust me it doesn't differ much, I've used both
[17:35] <BluesKaj> and if you're using pulseaudio then check that as well in system settings>multimedis>audio>hardware tab
[17:35] <physios> BluesKaj: I have no sound btw
[17:35] <BluesKaj> yes I know
[17:36] <physios> BluesKaj: by hardware do you mean the "Device preference" tab
[17:36] <physios> BluesKaj: on Audio And Video -- System Settings
[17:37] <BluesKaj> but check you hardware output settings as above...pulseaudio is beside the preferences tab
[17:38] <physios> BluesKaj: I think you want me to go to this window, sec
[17:38] <BluesKaj> you may want to install pavucontrol
[17:38] <physios> BluesKaj: I have pavucontrol
[17:39] <BluesKaj> check the mic settingsa theretoo
[17:39] <physios> BluesKaj: PavuControl Says "Connection to PulseAudio Failed"
[17:40] <physios> BluesKaj: Do you want this window? http://imgur.com/a/TTvw1
[17:41] <BluesKaj> check input devices for mics
[17:41] <physios> BluesKaj: "No input devices available"
[17:42] <physios> BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/MsiukSG that's pavucontrol
[17:44] <physios> BluesKaj: Any ideas?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> the pulseaudio isn't much good , I'm not supposed to advise users to remove default apps , but I purge pulseaudio on all my linux machines that have intel audio. The intel drivers are complete enough to use alsa alone..
[17:46] <physios> BluesKaj: is there a pulseaudio substitute
[17:47] <physios> BluesKaj: *Opens youtube tab to listen to music, no music plays*
[17:48] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio is a sound server that rides on top of alsa, it's mainly needed for incomplete drivers of audio chips other than intel , and it's just another layer of unnessary processing IMO
[17:49] <BluesKaj> physios, paste a screenshot of your alsamixer
[17:49] <physios> BluesKaj: Just a moment
[17:50] <physios> BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/a/AgZAh
[17:51] <physios> BluesKaj: My system seems unstable, again the image is http://imgur.com/a/AgZAh
[17:54] <physios> BluesKaj: any ideas?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> physios, try enabling loopback
[17:57] <physios> BluesKaj: Ok
[17:57] <physios> BluesKaj: I hear static
[17:58] <physios> WAIT
[17:59] <physios> I hear what I play on the computer
[17:59] <physios> basically a "stereo mix"
[17:59] <physios> nvm
[17:59] <physios> I thought I had no sound
[18:00] <BluesKaj> yes I see that on alsamixer ...do you have the pc connected to an audio receiver or amplifier with digital inputs/dacs ?
[18:01] <physios> BluesKaj: ?
[18:02] <physios> BluesKaj: This is a desktop PC and it doesn't have other connections than that
[18:02] <physios> but it has a hdmi monitor though
[18:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:05] <BluesKaj> I use my pc as a HTPC , connected to a home theater audio system thru the spdif coax digital out and hdmi for video on the connected tv/monitor
[18:06] <physios> nice, but I just use my pc for gaming
[18:06] <physios> the movies are on my phone sometimes on my laptop
[18:06] <physios> but I must say nice rig :P
[18:07] <BluesKaj> I'm an old audio guy from waaay back ;-)
[18:07] <physios> :P
[18:14] <physios> BluesKaj: How do I renable the pulseaudio thingy?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> in system settings> multimedia> hardware device tab
[18:29] <physios> BluesKaj: I mean how do I revert sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[18:31] <BluesKaj> you need snd-hda-intel, it's the audio driver and you've already loaded it and you need that driver for your audio to work
[18:32] <physios> BluesKaj: Yes but that disabled my pulseaudio
[18:32] <physios> BluesKaj: That command you gave me
[18:33] <BluesKaj> no it didn't, it loaded the intel driver, it doesn't diable pulseaudio
[18:33] <BluesKaj> disable
[18:34] <physios> ok
[18:36] <BluesKaj> recommend you chat with the mint users about this , they may have a different setup for pulse and alsa
[18:36] <BluesKaj> !mint
[20:49] <Corship_> Hello everyone
[20:51] <Corship_> Does anyone has expierence with grub and efi, in dualboot?
[20:54] <Corship_> hello
[20:54] <ayt89> hi
[20:54] <ayt89> I havent dual booted in a very long time
[20:54] <ayt89> Whats the issue?
[20:55] <Corship_> the issue is that my efi doesn't let me choose grub, but instead always uses the windows bootloader
[20:56] <Corship_> I've mounted the efi partition, and have the following entries:
[20:56] <Corship_> Boot/  gummiboot/  Microsoft/  pclinuxos/
[20:57] <Corship_> update-grub2 gives me
[20:57] <Corship_> Generating grub configuration file ... Found theme: /boot/grub2/themes/pclinuxos/theme.txt Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.8-pclos1 Found initrd image: /boot/initrd-4.9.8-pclos1.img Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda2@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi efibootmgr: Skipping unreadable variable "Boot0002": Input/output error grep: Windows: No such file or directory grep: Boot: No such file or directory grep: Manager: No such
[20:57] <Corship_> And I think this is the issue
[20:57] <Corship_> but I don't have a clue how to fix it
[20:59] <brutah> sup
[20:59] <Corship_> hello
[20:59] <brutah> i'm looking ti get some help installing kubuntu on a macbook pro
[21:00] <brutah> i want to retain dual boot
[21:00] <Corship_> then I can't help you, sorry :D
[21:00] <ayt89> Corship: microsoft doesn't use money when we use Free Software
[21:00] <ayt89> Corship: this is their evil plot
[21:01] <brutah> there's alot of info going around but it seems to be a bit dated. i dont want to mess up the mac os install...
[21:01] <Corship_> XD
[21:03] <Corship_> Welp, I would love to delete windows. Half of my beloved steam libary would be worthless
[21:04] <ayt89> Corship some if it will still work with steam on wine
[21:04] <ayt89> Corship I know gaming on Linux can be a real bum
[21:04] <Corship_> yeah I know, and I am very thankful that steam is pushing it so developers are more interested
[21:05] <Corship_> but yeah, at the moment I have to fix the dualboot thing
[21:09] <Corship_> Hello
[21:11] <ayt89> Hello Cor
[21:11] <ayt89> but have you taken a good look at BIOS options?
[21:14] <ayt89> you MIGHT have something there