[00:31] <mate|29776> hello everyone! I have recently switched from raspbian to ubuntu mate on my rpi3. I have got alot of stuff set up and running the way i want but i wont let me update! it says i dont have enough space on my boot partion. How can i resize it? it fails to install gparted - says missing dependencies.
[02:10] <greenmanspirit> Hey all, I just installed my first snap and I have a question. If ubuntu mate would move to being snap based, would that mean that all packages would live in /snap and the current file system standard will be deprecated?
[02:58] <Astro7467> greenmanspirit: I think not. they will coexist, but I suspect we will see a focus on  deb pkgs for OS/Performance/Integration (eg services & server) and snaps for user land apps (eg LibreOffice)
[02:59] <greenmanspirit> Astro7467, thanks for the response. I have so many scripts that depend on the current structure that I was curious.
[03:00] <Astro7467> Canonical's stated position is that many packages will continue to co-exist in both environments as pkgs and snaps to meet different use cases
[03:01] <greenmanspirit> cool
[03:01] <greenmanspirit> That is what I was hoping for.
[04:33] <maxstirner_> Hi...Can anyone help me?
[04:35] <maxstirner_> I have a problem with my BIOS. I installed Ubuntu Mate but... I want to install Windows 10 by bootable usb
[08:01] <maxstirner_> Hi...can anyone help me?
[08:15] <alkisg> Not if you don't wait we can't...
[12:35] <matelover> does anyone got problems?
[12:36] <alkisg> Like, job and family issues? :D
[12:36] <alkisg> !ask | echo matelover:
[12:37] <SuperEngineer> alkisg: that's not fair, matelover is obviously an out of work phscyiatrist
[12:38] <alkisg> Aaah makes sense now! :D
[12:38] <SuperEngineer> ;-)
[12:45] <Astro7467> I have 99 problems, but MATE ain't one.
[12:48] <gibi92> I have problem to keep system clock on a raspberry pi2. Is it a MATE problem ?
[12:49] <SuperEngineer> Astro7467: make yourself comfortable,lay on this couch if you want... now tell me about problem number 1.  [but'll cost you a mere £200/hour]
[12:51] <SuperEngineer> ...& by the time we've got to problem number 99... I'm rich, you're poor and you say you then have 100 problems :-)
[12:52] <SuperEngineer> gibi92: I suspect not
[12:56] <gibi92> @SuperEngineer Even if i use ubuntu-mate ?
[12:56] <alkisg> gibi92: pi doesn't have a cmos to store the date to
[12:57] <SuperEngineer> My logic: [disclaimer, I don't have any pi] but...I'm sure it would have been asked a few times before if it was a UM problem.
[12:58] <alkisg> There's a fake-cmos package that uses the disk to store the last date
[12:58] <alkisg> That's the best that debian and ubuntu can do
[12:59] <SuperEngineer> ,,,and how does the pi remeber the time without a powered cmos?  I''m guessing it tries to grab time from a time server... is one set?
[12:59] <gibi92> alkisg: yes, but i search for software solution
[12:59] <alkisg> fake-cmos is the software solution
[13:01] <alkisg> Sorry, wrong name, I meant: http://packages.ubuntu.com/fake-hwclock
[13:01] <alkisg> Do you have that package installed?
[13:01] <gibi92> alksig: yes
[13:01] <alkisg> ubuntu-mate rpi, like normal ubuntu-mate, uses ntpd too of course, so it syncs after boot
[13:01] <alkisg> But while booting, that's the best you can do
[13:02] <alkisg> Read this too if you want: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/4370/where-does-the-raspberry-pi-get-the-time-from
[13:02] <gibi92> alksig: yesterday i test htpdate. it synchronise time over the web
[13:02] <alkisg> ntpdate is deprecated
[13:02] <alkisg> ntpd is what is preinstalled now
[13:03] <alkisg> All ubuntus have ntpd preinstalled
[13:03] <gibi92> alksig:yes i have ntpd and i remove ntpdate
[13:03] <alkisg> Also, use tab to autocomplete irc nicknames, to get them right
[13:03] <gibi92> alkisg, ok
[13:12] <gibi92> alksig, Thank you for this link. I read a lot about it, but I have not seen that one. I read it and I come back
[13:12] <alkisg> np
[15:33] <victor> hi
[15:33] <Guest91738> hi
[16:39] <usuario> buenas, he estado trasteando con los ajustes de los paneles y ya no me salen las ventanas de las aplicaciones que tengo abiertas a la izquierda del panel inferior. En su lugar, ahora me aparecen iconos de las aplicaciones en el panel inferior. Cómo puedo volver a la situación inicial? Gracias
[16:40] <alkisg> !es | usuario:
[16:40] <alkisg> !en
[16:43] <usuario> Good afternoon, I've been messing around with the panel settings and the windows of the applications that I have open to the left of the bottom panel do not come out anymore. Instead, I now see application icons in the bottom pane. How can I get back to the initial situation? Thank you
[16:46] <usuario> Ah, I'm working with ubuntu mate 16.04
[17:51] <HoppingMadMan> Hey, just a question to all of those on Ubuntu Mate 16.10 is anyone one having graphical glitches in the top panel around the battery and time?
[18:01]  * alkisg will be sticking to lts releases, as always... 16.04 ftw! :)
[18:02] <Akuli> 14.04 ftw! :D
[18:05] <swift110> hey all
[18:08] <Akuli> hi swift110
[21:00] <maxstirner_> Hi...can anyone help me?
[21:03] <megazell> Hi all - Anyone available to help me restore a deleted panel from Ubuntu Mate 16.04?
[21:54] <ubuntu-mate> e-tang
[21:54] <ubuntu-mate> good day :)
[21:56] <ubuntu-mate> i keep getting a root path is not defined err msg when trying to install ubuntu mate. that and the installer doesnt see any available partitions
[21:58] <ubuntu-mate> open to all suggestions. and thanks for your time
[22:31] <calmlbded> sidenote: i'm on a brand new dell xps 15 2017 and wondered if there's anyone out there who could install ubuntu-mate for me remotely, and i'll totally e-transfer 25 bucks to you.
[22:31] <calmlbded> i've spent 11+ hours trying to get this working and still nothing.