[00:00] <sarnold> zzz_: no; what are you trying to solve?
[00:00] <sarnold> geigerCounter: sorry, I had to run last night; how'd things work out?
[00:05] <Henster> https://www.youtube.com/live_dashboard
[00:05] <zzz_> sarnold i have a croned .sh that logs in to a service with secret credentials. if i run the file directly from the command line i get a warning that i shouldnt use passwords on the command line
[00:05] <Henster> hey whats up im messing around
[00:05] <zzz_> i am making sure it's safe to do so
[00:06] <Henster> mine ?
[00:06] <Henster> lol ok
[00:06] <Henster> damm trying to make the bacround screen look cool
[00:10] <Henster> lol this is hard wrok lol
[00:10] <sarnold> zzz_: aha. :) note that processes and their arguments are visible via top or ps auxw or /proc/*/cmdline
[00:11] <sarnold> zzz_: so it's not very safe to call it that way if you have untrusted users or untrusted services on your computer
[00:12] <patdk-lap> what service?
[00:20] <Henster> hey man can you guys see video on my stream
[01:59] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Tactical retreat for sanity's sake. Never got anybody to try connecting to my server to see, but a port tester was able to connect fine. So I think it is the ISP of my current location blocking the connection. :/
[01:59] <sarnold> geigerCounter: aha. do you still need testing?
[01:59] <geigerCounter> This is rather obnoxious, of course, because I can't try testing with a mail client.
[01:59] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Yep.
[01:59] <sarnold> geigerCounter: what address?
[02:00] <geigerCounter> sarnold: somethinghub.com
[02:01] <sarnold> geigerCounter: it sure feels like a firewall set to DROP rather than REJECT
[02:02] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Yes, yes it does. But I'm also having trouble with authenticating locally over s_client, so I've got two issues for the price of one.
[02:02] <sarnold> what a deal!
[02:03]  * geigerCounter laughs
[02:03] <geigerCounter> Fortunately I have something to stave away the frustration.
[02:04] <geigerCounter> sarnold: http://youtu.be/T-hZhr2k2hk
[02:08] <sarnold> geigerCounter: nice :)
[02:09] <sarnold> I've got ghostbusters 2 going at the moment
[02:45] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Did the test succeed?
[02:46] <sarnold> geigerCounter: no, I never got any response to the HELO command, it just hung like a firewall was dropping packets
[02:46] <geigerCounter> :/
[02:46] <geigerCounter> Try EHLO ?
[02:47]  * sarnold facepalm.gif
[02:48] <sarnold> geigerCounter: sigh. _my_ ISP blocks outgoing port 25.
[02:48] <sarnold> geigerCounter: testing from another machine shows your machine works just fine.
[02:48] <sarnold> 220 somethinghub.com ESMTP Exim 4.82 Ubuntu Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:47:41 -0500
[03:01] <geigerCounter> sarnold: Awesome
[03:02] <geigerCounter> Why do so many ISPs block it, I wonder?
[03:05] <sarnold> they're trying to cut down spam from their users when they get compromised
[03:06] <sarnold> and they do, users install the stupidest things in their browsers, or click on the stupidest things in their email..
[03:09] <patdk-lap> there is NO ligit usecase for users to send email using port 25
[03:10] <patdk-lap> expecially this day in age when your email has reputation, dkim, and spf rules it MUST pass
[03:11] <patdk-lap> also, residentual isp don't normally have static ip, and let you set the reverse dns entry, that are required for email also
[09:38] <zioproto> hello all
[09:38] <zioproto> I was looking at this charms bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/mediawiki/+bug/1655069
[09:39] <zioproto> I am not yet very familiar with Charms, looks like the code on Launchpad is only for Precise branches
[09:39] <zioproto> I cant figure out where is the Xenial code for this charm, can anybody help me out ?
[13:43] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:16] <blizzow> I think one of the recent kernel releases broke 16.04's OOM killer. In particular the OOM killer has become really aggressive with KVM virtualization.
[14:16] <blizzow> https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-4-4-5-kernel-out-of-memory-kill-process-8543-kvm-score-or-sacrifice-child.31569/#post-157162
[14:17] <blizzow> The OOM killer is killing VMs even with less than 60% of my hypervisor RAM being used.
[15:08] <lordievader> Really? That is quite agressive indeed. Is more memory committed that allowed?
[18:16] <geigerCounter> Hi all. What terminal text editor do y'all use?
[18:17] <caliculk> I am currently having some apt packaging issues. Not sure how it happened, as I don't recall updating the server in several days. I have tried using 'dpkg --configure -a' and removing the lock file and trying to upgrade again, but unfortunately, it still won't work.
[18:18] <OerHeks> geigerCounter, nano vim
[18:18] <caliculk> Full log is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24028525/
[18:20] <OerHeks> caliculk, proper solution: run 'sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ' to see what process, and kill it. >> http://askubuntu.com/a/380701
[18:20] <caliculk> Yeah, just found that.
[18:20] <caliculk> I thought I would come here first.
[18:21] <OerHeks> Good thinking, go ahead.
[18:21] <thrasos_> hello
[18:22] <geigerCounter> OerHeks: Neat. I've been trying out this fairly recent one called micro that I've been enjoying so far.
[18:23] <thrasos_> I am trying to enable CORS (Cross Origin Resource Sharing )
[18:23] <thrasos_> any tips?
[18:23] <caliculk> Well, I guess this was part of the problem - https://paste.ubuntu.com/24028554/ grub won't upgrade :/
[20:34] <Doow> I'm trying to install mariadb-server and using the command mysql_secure_installation, it complains about not being able to write some files to disk, even if I run it with sudo -u mysql, am I supposed to run it as root? I don't want to screw up the permissions for later.
[20:35] <Doow> log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24029495/
[20:37] <Doow> Looking at the files on disk it seems to be a bit of a mix between root and mysql that owns things
[20:37] <compdoc> I think you do run with the mysql root account
[20:40] <compdoc> shouldnt matter if you are root or not. shouldnt need to sudo
[20:42] <Doow> ok, it definitely does on this machine
[20:43] <Doow> maybe I've screwed up permissions allready, I've installed/purged/reinstalled