[00:14] <blahdeblah> Morning folks; any first guesses at possible workarounds for https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-jujuclient/+bug/1639104 ?  Seems like it might be some sort of mismatch between go & python APIs.
[00:14] <mup> Bug #1639104: can no longer deploy to model: 'error': 'shared state watcher was stopped' <landscape> <python-jujuclient:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1639104>
[00:23] <axw> babbageclunk: is 15 minutes earlier ok for you?
[00:23] <babbageclunk> axw: yup!
[00:23] <axw> cool
[00:26] <babbageclunk> axw, wallyworld: Hmm. Actually Ada's just about to start going to preschool at 12:30. So I can do 12:30, but if people were ok with 1pm or later my time then I could take her sometimes.
[00:27] <babbageclunk> axw, wallyworld: no biggie though
[00:27] <babbageclunk> axw, wallyworld: I can do picking her up instead
[00:27] <axw> babbageclunk: we should change so you can take her
[00:27]  * axw looks up timezones
[00:28] <babbageclunk> axw: as long as that would still work for you guys
[00:28] <axw> babbageclunk: 1pm your time wouldn't work for me half the week, as I take my kids to school then
[00:28] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: yeah, we can change for sure
[00:28]  * axw thinking
[00:29] <axw> wallyworld babbageclunk: 9:30am my time, 11:30am BNE, 1:30pm NZ ?
[00:30] <wallyworld> works for me, so long as you guys are happy with that
[00:30] <axw> wait, that's not right
[00:30] <axw> 2:30pm NZ
[00:30] <wallyworld> until winter
[00:30] <wallyworld> then it will be 1:30
[00:33] <babbageclunk> axw, wallyworld: that sounds good to me, thanks guys!
[00:33]  * wallyworld will adjust invites
[00:34] <axw> bbs
[02:26] <thumper> ick
[02:26] <thumper> found a hard coded port number in the tetss
[02:26] <thumper> 12344
[02:26] <thumper> 12345
[02:26] <thumper> geez
[02:26] <anastasiamac> thumper: which test?
[02:27] <thumper> apiserver logstream_Test
[02:27] <thumper> I'm in there anyway
[02:27] <thumper> will look to change
[02:27] <anastasiamac> :( k thnx!
[02:42] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: did we end up addressing this? related to our favourite --upload-tools :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1648752
[02:42] <mup> Bug #1648752: Juju upgraded to 2.0.2.1 when it reported 2.0.2 was released <jujuqa> <upgrade-juju> <juju:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648752>
[02:43] <wallyworld> not yet
[02:43] <wallyworld> on the 2.2 roadmap
[02:44] <anastasiamac> yep. m reviewing 2.2 bugs
[02:44] <anastasiamac> to filter fixed but not updated...
[03:43] <thumper> bollocks
[03:44] <anastasiamac> ?
[03:44] <thumper> down to last few issues with gorilla/websocket
[03:44] <thumper> there is a test around tls config
[03:44] <thumper> and the way the different libraries deal with it makes this a challenge
[03:44]  * thumper needs to work out how to get the right bits
[03:46] <thumper> I can think of a horrible way...
[03:46] <thumper> but trying to think of something nicer
[03:48] <jam> thumper: i know menn0 is out, are you around today?
[03:48] <thumper> jam: yeah, but just about to talk to babbageclunk
[03:48] <thumper> jam: did you want to chat still?
[03:49] <jam> thumper: just as a general "how are things going" nothing particular, though discussing the recent mark request would be good
[03:49] <thumper> i'll ping you
[04:42] <thumper> jam: got a few minutes?
[04:42] <jam> certainly
[05:05] <axw> jam: standup? or still talking to thumper?
[05:06] <jam> still talking with tim
[05:27] <wallyworld> jam: i have a question or two when you're free,maybe ping me?
[05:30] <jam> axw: wallyworld: ping
[05:30] <wallyworld> hey
[05:30] <axw> jam: pong
[05:31] <jam> axw: did you want to still have a quick catch-up?
[05:31] <wallyworld> jam: did you want to talk to andrew first? and then me?
[05:31] <jam> wallyworld: well, if you're closer to EOD, maybe it makes more sense to chat with you
[05:31] <axw> jam: go ahead and chat with wallyworld
[05:31] <wallyworld> ok, it that suits
[05:32] <wallyworld> jam: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/a-team-standup?authuser=1
[05:58] <jam> axw: want to chat?
[05:58] <jam> https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/jam-axw?authuser=1
[05:58] <axw> jam: brt
[07:26] <mup> Bug #1666069 changed: openstack provider: juju does not give any error if trusty instance forever in pending because of missing image metadata <juju:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666069>
[08:51] <blahdeblah> Hi folks, how can I get the registration base64 blob for an existing user?
[09:49] <perrito666> Jam morning I am still booting but wanted to ask you if your techleaderness is going to be manifested in some other way than the org chart, like if you need you Curtis, I and the nonexistent members of the team to standup at some especial time
[09:50] <jam> perrito666: i had started an email to ask you guys what times would work for you
[09:50] <jam> and get filled in a bit of what you guys are currently working on
[09:51] <perrito666> I think we can overlap before your EOD :) I'll wait for the email
[09:53] <perrito666> Jam are you going to the sprint? I am not sure if your country is among the ones affected by the special migration rules
[09:54] <jam> perrito666: given my passport is USA, I guess I'm affected, but in a different way :)
[09:54] <jam> but yes, I'm going to the sprint
[09:56] <perrito666> They might ask you some extra questions :p I have a friend that went a couple of times to Israel for instance and since he never again entered the us without being randomly selected for questioning :p
[09:57] <jam> perrito666: well, my wife is Syrian, and I've visited her country in the past. I've done the hour-wait for special interview before
[09:57] <jam> perrito666: not sure how it will go this time, but I've got a pretty decent layover time
[09:58] <perrito666> Perhaps we can finally make a case for sprints in Argentina :p
[09:58] <perrito666> So it's equally far and annoying to everyone
[10:00] <jam> perrito666: :)
[10:04] <perrito666> jam: does this invalidate the other standup?
[10:05] <jam> perrito666: potentially that is up to you. I'd be happy to have you be around for other people since I can't be there at that timezone, but I also wouldn't mandate that you have to be at both standups all the time
[10:06] <jam> I'd also hope you'd be around a bit for Eric while he's learning the ropes.
[10:08] <perrito666> jam: Ill be around for eric but if I am in both standups, given all other meeetings that are now in my list I might end up being here somewhere around 12 to 14 hs which is a bit much :p
[10:10] <jam> perrito666: that's not even a full day. :)
[10:10] <jam> perrito666: I certainly don't expect you to work extra, we'll try and find a way to keep the schedule manageable for you
[10:17] <perrito666> jam: I am sure we will, have been working with APAC for the past 2 years, I think one of us should move to AUZ/NZ to fix this :p and bring urtis
[10:17] <jam> perrito666: can I move during summer and come back for the nice months?
[10:18] <perrito666> if it wasn't for the fact that I would never again speak on regular hours with the people I know I would already be living in AUS :p
[10:20] <jam> perrito666: you know people in AUS :)
[10:20] <perrito666> jam: fair, but I know more people in GMT-3
[10:20] <jam> perrito666: but if you just want to speak to them in their evening, you still can, harder to go out for drinks, though.
[12:28] <perrito666> jam: the proposed time for standup is in about 2 mins is that correct?
[12:28] <jam> perrito666: that was my original thought
[12:28] <jam> perrito666: is that a time that would work for you?
[12:29] <perrito666> jam: greatly, but we wont know from curtis until tomorrow :)
[12:29] <perrito666> jam: wanna catch up?
[12:34] <jam> perrito666: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/afternoon-jam?authuser=1
[12:34] <perrito666> afternoon jam? sounds like a muscal thing
[12:35] <jam> perrito666: hence the pun
[12:35] <perrito666> I am there
[12:35] <jam> one could also pun it on afternoon tea
[13:05] <jam> perrito666: I can hear you fine
[13:16]  * perrito666 runs to a room with AC
[13:19] <perrito666> jam: that was the nice standup setup, for future ones you will have to deal with the humming noise of the AC
[13:19] <jam> :)
[19:32] <babbageclunk> morning!
[21:22] <thumper> menn0, babbageclunk: one of you should reply to the juju mailing list post about proxies
[21:28] <menn0> thumper: one of us will
[21:28] <thumper> :)
[21:30] <perrito666> wow, whatever ubuntu is doing with my dns is really messing my life
[21:31] <perrito666> all of the possible places that could have a reference to the dns server hold 127.0.1.1 leaving whatever has the actual dns really hiden so i really have a hard time diagnosing dns problems
[21:34] <menn0> perrito666: yep, dnsmasq is listening on 127.0.1.1:53
[21:34] <menn0> so that networkmanager has more direct control over DNS resolution
[21:52] <mup> Bug #1333162 changed: cannot bootstrap on openstack provider:  Multiple security_group matches found for name 'XYZ', use an ID to be more specific. <bug-squad> <charmers> <openstack-provider> <repeatability> <security> <sts> <uosci> <OpenStack Charm Test Infra:Confirmed> <juju:Fix Committed>
[21:52] <mup> <juju-core:Fix Released> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333162>
[22:16] <thumper> :(*
[22:16] <thumper> thought I was mostly done with test failures with this branch
[22:16] <thumper> but apparently not
[22:16]  * thumper sighs
[22:20] <perrito666> menn0: I know, but networkmanager sucks at controlling the dns so when I want to step in I have 0 control since dnsmasq and resolver are configured in a very obscure way
[22:30] <thumper> damn it
[22:54] <menn0> perrito666: you can set your own DNS for a given connection in networkmanager
[22:54] <menn0> not sure if that helps
[23:18] <menn0> wallyworld, axw: as far I can see we don't pass HTTP/HTTPS/FTP proxy information to cloud-init. does that sound right to you?
[23:18] <axw> menn0: that sounds wrong
[23:18] <wallyworld> menn0: could be, it could be that we write instead ~/juju-proxy and rely and that, not sure
[23:19] <wallyworld> i thought'd we did though
[23:19] <axw> menn0 wallyworld: there's a ProxySettings in InstanceConfig that should be filled out
[23:19] <wallyworld> that sounds right
[23:19] <menn0> wallyworld, axw: ok thanks. i'll keep digging after I run an errand.