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[01:20] <tsimonq2> valorie: Ping a ling ling, you online this fine Sunday night?
[01:21] <valorie> I am
[01:21] <valorie> what's up?
[01:22] <tsimonq2> valorie: So I get to publish Beta 1 for the flavors for Zesty. Since you're an RM in training, would you like to give me a hand doing the coordinating for the global release? :)
[01:23] <tsimonq2> s/publish/do the coordinating/
[01:23] <tsimonq2> I don't press big red buttons :P
[01:23] <valorie> um
[01:23] <valorie> I'm interested in what to do for Kubuntu
[01:23] <valorie> not so much for all of Ubuntu
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[01:23] <tsimonq2> Ok, so you're passing?
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[01:24] <valorie> I mean, I think I already did some Kub. beta 1 stuff
[01:25] <valorie> and I've written about what is necessary in https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/release-management/
[01:25] <valorie> and asked for you and wxl to review that
[01:26] <tsimonq2> Ah ok, I'm just asking if you want to help with GLOBAL kitten herding, with the advantage being seeing exactly what the global kitten director does. :)
[01:26] <tsimonq2> valorie: First time I'm seeing that link, looking now...
[01:26] <valorie> well, I read the wiki about the steps
[01:26] <valorie> I can certainly help with release texts etc.
[01:27] <valorie> tsimonq2: the discussion/progress etc. is on https://phabricator.kde.org/T5135
[01:27] <tsimonq2> Ok :)
[01:28] <valorie> yeah, I have a rough kub.org text for beta1 done
[01:29] <valorie> and the beginings of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/Beta1/Kubuntu done
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 valorie, on Phab you say "There are two alphas, and two beta releases as well as the Final Release" isnt there also a Release Canditate?
 https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/release-management/
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[02:28] <valorie> oops, methinks you are right, clivejo
[02:29] <valorie> tsimonq2: as I see it, the RM for a flavor basically gets people to do the testing, gets a list of bugs, and then gets the release texts out
[02:30] <valorie> so, the RM for all flavors basically just reminds people to do the above, plus gets the release texts out?
[02:30] <tsimonq2> Yep
[02:30] <tsimonq2> And finds out who's in
[02:30] <valorie> oh, plus marking flavors as "ready"
[02:30] <tsimonq2> Mmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:30] <tsimonq2> Sometimes
[02:30] <valorie> k
[02:30] <tsimonq2> If needed
[02:30] <tsimonq2> valorie: So tell me, who's participating? :P
[02:33] <valorie> I read the mail thread
[02:33] <tsimonq2> So? Tell me ;)
[02:33] <valorie> trying to think of who is missing
[02:34] <valorie> I think all of us are in
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[03:29] <DarinMiller> Hey tsimonq2
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[03:29] <DarinMiller> Do you have a few minutes to help me sort libkgapi?
[03:30] <DarinMiller> i.e. this monster: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/306776817/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.libkgapi_5.3.1+p17.04+git20170217.0139-0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[03:32] <DarinMiller> I don't see any reference to libkf5gapi-data nor libkf5gapi-dev in the build log, but old control files has has several references.
[03:33] <DarinMiller> libkgapi control file:   https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/libkgapi/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_stable
[03:33] <DarinMiller> s/has  has/has/ ^^
[03:35] <DarinMiller> My current strategy for fixing so far is summarized here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24031750/
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[04:06] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: libkgapi is getting ready to become part of KDE applications and not a (kf5) framework, so it's possible the library package names may need to be transitioned as well
[04:06] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: :O go to bed!
[04:06] <acheronuk> have to think about that and/or follow debian's Neon's etc lead
[04:07] <acheronuk> It's early. not late. 
[04:07]  * acheronuk is telling himself that to feel better
[04:07] <tsimonq2> XD
[04:08] <acheronuk> https://cgit.kde.org/libkgapi.git/commit/?id=8d15e66f1ed87a52377111735e24888b7f924a49
[04:08] <genii-netbook> Found this in my collection today, thought you guys might like it. Check out the KDE and Qt versions ;) http://i.imgur.com/loWSivJ.jpg
[04:09] <valorie> omg
[04:09] <valorie> that's amazing
[04:09] <tsimonq2> Hahahahaha
[04:09] <genii-netbook> ...i still also have the book
[04:10] <valorie> what's the copyright year?
[04:10] <genii-netbook> Hangon I'll go look
[04:10]  * tsimonq2 needs sleep sleep o/
[04:11] <DarinMiller> acheronuk: thanks for the feedback.  I was attempting to make a working package (attempting to quess what neon or debian would do).
[04:11] <genii-netbook> valorie: 2000
[04:12] <DarinMiller> night tsimonq2 o/
[04:13] <DarinMiller> I became confused with how to handle libkf5gapi-data.install and libkf5gapi-dev.install as they did not seem to be in the new library.
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[04:21] <acheronuk> well, looks like some stuff in -data and -dev was renamed, but not all. some with duplicate names in the old and new scheme for compatibility
[04:21] <acheronuk> plus the buildlog does not tell the whole story
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[04:22] <acheronuk> you are getting the list of what the .install files expect to find, but don't. and at that point the build aborts  
[04:23] <acheronuk> so you don't get the list of what was built, but wasn't installed anywhere by the .install files
[04:23] <acheronuk> the other sort of 'missing'
[04:27] <valorie> 2000 is before I was using linux, much less knew what KDE *was*
[04:27] <DarinMiller> acheronuk: ack
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[05:59] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170220)
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[09:04] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:48] <acheronuk> santa_ clivejo any objections to uploading plasma 5.6.2 in a bit?
[10:48] <acheronuk> *5.9.2
[10:48] <acheronuk> lol
[10:49] <acheronuk> would like to get that through for the beta if possible
[10:49] <santa_> acheronuk: can we get the las 2 remaining things of frameworks and plasma migrated?
[10:49] <santa_> 1 sec
[10:50] <santa_> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.31_zesty_proposed_migration.pdf
[10:51] <santa_> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/plasma_archive/5.9.1_zesty_proposed_migration.pdf
[10:51] <santa_> k, about kde-cli-tools we have to poke the relase team again
[10:51] <acheronuk> baloo-kf5 I just skipped the s390x tests on
[10:53] <acheronuk> kde-cli-tools can do the same, rather than commenting out the test, which britney does not like.
[10:53] <santa_> but it's already @ 5.9.0 ...
[10:54] <santa_> acheronuk: ok, no objections on my side. however it would be nice if you could retry the kdelibs4support; in case they fail again we could comment out th test which is failing
[10:55] <acheronuk> santa_: I already retried that a couple of time the other day I think. lemme check
[10:57] <acheronuk> santa_: yep, I did. normally and against all-proposed. 
[10:58] <acheronuk> santa_: busy this afternoon, so I shall get that uploaded shortly
[10:58] <santa_> acheronuk: ok, I guess it's time for a stop in gap. added to my todo. thanks for caring about this
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[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:19] <acheronuk> santa_: are you going to push changes to kdelibs4support to disable that filing test? or do you want me to? I don't mind either way
[11:21] <santa_> acheronuk: whicheveer you prefer, right noe I'm busy with something else
[11:21] <santa_> * now
[11:21] <acheronuk> santa_: Ok. I'll do that then
 👍
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[13:56] <santa_> https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/app-store-16.12/
[13:56] <santa_> ↑ intel for tonight's mini-meeting, if that finally happens
[15:49] <acheronuk> santa_: tonight is fine for me
[16:00] <santa_> great
[16:09] <clivejo> should be ok for me to
[16:12] <santa_> great (II)
 Me too
 No work tonight
[16:22] <santa_> great (III)
 I'll be home by 4 PM my time
 (CST)
[16:30]  * acheronuk prods archive builds and tests
[16:36] <blaze> $ apt list *kf5* | grep 5.28 | wc -l
[16:36] <blaze> 8
[16:36] <blaze> almost there :)
[16:48] <acheronuk> blaze: just kdelibs4support I think
[16:51] <wxl> valorie: quick note before i head to work re the release-management notes on phabricator. looks good, but i'd make the ReleaseName in that URL to the release schedule stand out in italics or bold or something.
[16:52] <wxl> well i guess both of the wiki paths
[16:53] <wxl> you also may want to mention that testing images *usually* come out on tuesday and are due thursday
[16:53] <wxl> and where to find logs on image builds if they're not behaving correctly
[16:53] <clivejo> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks_archive/5.31_zesty_proposed_migration.pdf
[16:53] <clivejo> looking good
[16:54] <wxl> valorie: there's LOTS of information you can pull from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing
[16:54] <wxl> k off to work
[16:54] <clivejo> acheronuk: are you poking these - http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/plasma_archive/5.9.2_zesty_proposed_migration.pdf
[16:55] <acheronuk> clivejo: yes, though some of them are not much point while their arches are lagging slightly on the main builds. 
[16:56] <clivejo> no problem, Ill keep my poking finger to myself
[16:57] <santa_> acheronuk: for the proposed migration graph it doesn't hide anything, because if it's not built for all archs it won't migrate
[16:58] <santa_> another thing is the build status/retry builds graph
[16:58] <santa_> for those, now you can select a subset of archs
[16:58] <santa_> i.e. you can make and amd64-only
[16:59] <santa_> s/and/an/
[18:33] <acheronuk> clivejo: busy for a bit, so please 'poke' away if you feel inclined
[18:34] <acheronuk> I guess we are looking @ about 10pm UTC ish for this mini-meeting
 BBB? or here?
[21:15]  * clivejo is easy
[21:15] <santa_>  I would prefer here
[21:15] <santa_> tsimonq2: around?
 @santa_, Not yet
[21:16] <santa_> ok so we wait for Simon
[21:17] <santa_> please ping us when you are ready
[21:17] <santa_> ah, ok
[21:17] <santa_> he said 16:00 CST
[21:18] <santa_> so that's 22:00 UTC
[21:18] <santa_> i.e. in ~40 minutes
 Grr I missed the city bus
 Next one comes around in ~25 mins
 So it'll be more like 16:20 :/
[21:30] <wxl> man i've got to make this easier
[21:30] <wxl> oops wrong channel bah
 Hi
 Lights out in my building
[22:00] <clivejo> power outage?
 Yes
[22:01] <clivejo> oh dear
 I will be available anyway thanks to the phone and laptop batt
[22:03] <ahoneybun> mm does Discover 5.9.2 have the fixes?
 Which fixes?
 Is packagekit crashing for you?
 If so I have a ppa with a packagekit patch
 It seems there's also a different problem in xenial
[22:14] <clivejo> is it crashing in zesty?
[22:15] <acheronuk> crashing when you do what?
[22:15] <clivejo> mine was doing that, until I upgraded packagekit
 Be ready in 5
[22:16] <clivejo> just displayed a message and would do nothing
[22:17] <acheronuk> just loaded it up and had a quick click about and search, and not crashed so far and looks normal
[22:21] <clivejo> weird
[22:21] <santa_> it seems the problem isn't completely reproducible
[22:21] <santa_> in any case the patch in question I have been checking is here:
[22:21] <acheronuk> Apparently successful
[22:21] <acheronuk> final: breeze,kdelibs4support
[22:21] <acheronuk> \o/
[22:21] <santa_> https://launchpad.net/~panfaust/+archive/ubuntu/packagekit
[22:21] <acheronuk> last 2 bits of FW and plasma!
[22:21] <clivejo> last two?
[22:21] <clivejo> yipppeee
[22:22] <santa_> brb in a few minutes, need to check downstairs wtf is going on
[22:22] <acheronuk> it's the squirrels. they chew the wires
[22:25] <clivejo> BBQ'ed Squirrel
[22:25] <santa_> k ,they are trying to fix it apparently
[22:25] <santa_> they was some grey smoke smelling funny btw
[22:26] <santa_> s/they/there/
[22:26] <valorie> squirrel for sure!
[22:26] <santa_> had to be a rat instead
[22:26] <clivejo> ah grey squirrel are common as muck
[22:26] <santa_> no squirrels in this environment
[22:27] <clivejo> don't like seeing red squirrels getting fried
[22:27] <santa_> haha
[22:28] <santa_> did Simon arrive yet?
 I'm here
[22:29] <santa_> ok
[22:29] <santa_> clivejo, acheronuk: around already?
[22:29] <clivejo> yup
[22:29] <acheronuk> I'm here
[22:29] <clivejo> but getting sleepy
[22:30]  * valorie serves tea around
[22:30] <santa_> ok, let's start this mini-meeting then
[22:30] <santa_> https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/app-store-16.12/
[22:30] <santa_> take a few minutes to read it please ↑
[22:31] <santa_> and then: do you agree with the assesment? do you agree with the proposed plan? any other comment?
 Looking
[22:32] <clivejo> santa_: did you research if it 16.12 builds without that gpgme-pthread.so symlink?
[22:33] <santa_> clivejo: nope, that's one of things we could check taking advantage of the .2 staging
[22:33] <acheronuk> I agree in general with that outline
[22:33] <santa_> if it works without the symlink that would be terrific
[22:33] <clivejo> basically the -release team would be happier if that symlink wasnt there
[22:33] <santa_> if we still need the symlink we could try to patch the kde package in question
[22:34] <acheronuk> I have a feeling that symlink may only be relevant for historical stuff, but we can see
[22:34] <santa_> me too
[22:34] <clivejo> acheronuk: thats what Im hopin
[22:35] <santa_> another I would like to discuss is *when* we would file the ffe
[22:35] <clivejo> acheronuk: do you have a list of the packages we need to upload for PIM?
[22:35] <acheronuk> although Neon's gpgme is a bit of a different build (no python stuff etc) I think they are building 16.12 + git fine without that symlink
[22:36] <acheronuk> they added the one debian have in their packaging, but not that extra one
[22:36] <clivejo> Id like to see a draft FFe ASAP
[22:37] <santa_> yes, I have inspected the gpgme neon fix months ago and it was more like a work around i.e. not really useful for us
[22:37] <clivejo> at least trying to build a case for it
[22:37] <acheronuk> clivejo: I did have somewhere. but would need to separate it out into the normal stuff and the split sources which will be NEW
[22:38] <clivejo> acheronuk: I was thinking more a list for the FFe
[22:38] <santa_> regarding the FFE, imho I would like to see a draft asap, but I would file the bug once we have our house in order (i.e. .2 built sucessfully in staging and autopkgtests all or mostly green)
[22:38] <clivejo> santa_: +1
[22:39] <acheronuk> well, an element of the FFE will be getting those new sources in, so best to have it clear in the FFE bug what is what
[22:39] <santa_> we could even work in a draft in phab
[22:39] <santa_> tsimonq2: do you already have any work in the FFE draft?
[22:39] <acheronuk> yep. get staged and confirm what issue we have first
[22:39] <clivejo> we kinda need an answer to gpgme to submit on the FFe
[22:40] <tsimonq2> santa_: No actually, sorry.
[22:40] <santa_> tsimonq2: no prob
[22:40] <santa_> clivejo: we could just mention the problem as a requirement for the FFE
[22:40] <clivejo> could I suggest a task rather than a wiki page?
[22:40] <santa_> sure
[22:41] <santa_> maybe we could dump the plan section of this https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/app-store-16.12/ into a checklist
[22:42] <santa_> or do you have something different in mind?
[22:42] <clivejo> https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/remarkup/ is great for how use it
[22:42] <clivejo> for generating checklists etc
[22:43] <santa_> nice reference doc
[22:43]  * acheronuk bookmarks
[22:43]  * DarinMiller does too
[22:44] <acheronuk> Hi DarinMiller :)
[22:44] <clivejo> little be extra work than trello
[22:44] <clivejo> be/bit
[22:44] <DarinMiller> Hi Rik et al.
[22:44] <santa_> hi DarinMiller, welcome in
[22:44] <DarinMiller> Hi santa_, thx
[22:46] <clivejo> so volunteers on who wants to do what?
[22:47] <acheronuk> I have no huge pref. happy to do whatever
[22:48]  * santa_ volunteers for uploaiging gpgme to the staging apps ppa + staging apps .2
[22:49] <santa_> I will also schedule an autopkgtests run - unfortunately I'm the only one right now who has acess to the infra to do that
[22:49] <DarinMiller> I would like to help, but not sure how.  Be glad to to do the grunt work, but will need guidance.
[22:50] <santa_> DarinMiller: no prob, you could help us with the symbols issues, I will help you to help us XD
[22:50] <santa_> FFE draft anyone?
[22:51]  * clivejo pokes tsimonq2
[22:51] <DarinMiller> ??? Symbols. uh ok
[22:51] <acheronuk> I can stage in the ppa if no-one else fancies doing that. I seem to have been doing most of that lately, but don't mind. or time allowing I can do it with someone else
[22:52]  * DarinMiller knows very little about symbols, many learning opportunities  ahead...
[22:52] <santa_> yes
[22:52] <tsimonq2> We should go poke Adam, I thought Kubuntu had an explicit exception to Feature Freeze.
[22:52] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: santa_ has some nice links about symbols
[22:52] <tsimonq2> Some old policy Jonothan helped set, something or other.
[22:52] <clivejo> tsimonq2: its only a draft for now
[22:53] <clivejo> not ready to actually submit it just yet
[22:53] <tsimonq2> clivejo: Hm?
[22:53] <santa_> acheronuk: I could upload the gpgme fix and then you stage if you want, my idea is doing it *now*
[22:56] <acheronuk> santa_: you mean tonight?
[22:57] <santa_> acheronuk: yes, so would leave the thing building in the night
[22:58] <acheronuk> santa_: right. 
[22:58] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: fancy staging apps?
[22:58] <DarinMiller> sure
[23:00] <santa_> acheronuk: I'm going to upload a fixed gpgme to the staging ppa then
[23:00] <santa_> any objections?
[23:00] <acheronuk> santa_: nope. none at all
[23:00] <clivejo> not I
[23:01] <santa_> ok, give me a few mins...
[23:01] <clivejo> by fixed you mean minus the symlink?
[23:01] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: are you free now? or more precisely free to go on linode and BBB in say 20-30 mins time?
[23:01] <clivejo> but with your 100 cut down to 10 threads patch
[23:01] <DarinMiller> yes
[23:01] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: :)
[23:02] <acheronuk> not sure what the relase team's issue was with that patch. it's the GPG devs own upstream commit in what will in the end be gpgme 1.8.1 most likely
[23:03] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: right. I shall grab a drink and a quick bite to eat, and than we can give that a go
[23:05] <DarinMiller> sounds good
[23:08] <acheronuk> anything else before I pop off for 20 mins?
 by fixed you mean minus the symlink?
[23:08] <santa_> yes
[23:08] <santa_> I have just uploaded, lets see if it gets accepted and builds properly...
[23:09] <DarinMiller> santa_ feel free to tag me anytime wrt the symbols updates
[23:10] <santa_> DarinMiller: sure, what's your timezone?
[23:10] <DarinMiller> utc +7 (mountain time)
[23:10] <clivejo> -7
[23:11] <clivejo> you are in the past my friend!
[23:11] <DarinMiller> ^^ what clive said
[23:13] <santa_> DarinMiller: so 4:13 PM there ?
[23:14] <DarinMiller> Yes
[23:14] <santa_> k, added to my plasma clock :)
[23:14] <DarinMiller> santa_: and your timezone?
[23:14]  * clivejo tries to remember what happened at 4:13PM
[23:15] <clivejo> oh yeah, it rained
[23:15] <santa_> DarinMiller: CET, that's UTC+1 so 00:14 here. I'm from Spain
[23:16] <DarinMiller> I am availabe off and on all week and can wake early if it better aligns with anyone's schedule.
[23:17] <santa_> k, we will figure it out
[23:17] <santa_> well, for some reason my gpgme upload vanished
[23:18] <acheronuk> LP sometimes eats uploads
[23:18] <santa_> acheronuk: in the meantime, would you guide DarinMiller trough the staging process with KA? (if you aren't doing in already)
[23:18] <santa_> s/in/it/
[23:18] <acheronuk> santa_: yep. I will be doing that shortly
[23:18] <santa_> thank you
[23:19] <santa_> k, go the ACCEPTED mail from LP now
[23:19] <santa_> s/go/got/
[23:20] <santa_> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+sourcepub/7499349/+listing-archive-extra
[23:20] <santa_> without the symlink
[23:21] <acheronuk> ok
[23:22] <clivejo> I hope those qt packages migrate before we need to upload
[23:24] <acheronuk> yeah, they got uploaded right after plasma. a gazillion tests on our packages to run for them. hopefully not much of an issue now
[23:33] <santa_> YES!
[23:33] <santa_> lights on again