[15:28] <toabctl> can anybody trigger a rebuild for zypper for Xenial to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zypper/+bug/1638306 ?
[15:34] <toabctl> rbasak, could you help maybe?
[15:34] <toabctl> or bdmurray ?
[15:53] <bdmurray> toabctl: because that's for a stable release it'll actually require an SRU http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[15:54] <toabctl> bdmurray, I try to follow that process. I'll create a debdiff and attach it to the bug. would that be enough?
[15:55] <bdmurray> toabctl: Specifically detailing the test case (although obvious) would be good to.  Once you have something let me know and I can sponsor it.
[15:55] <toabctl> bdmurray, I fail creating the debdiff currently.
[15:56] <toabctl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24034442/ is the error...
[16:01] <bdmurray> toabctl: I'm trying to build it now.
[16:01] <toabctl> bdmurray, building worked fine. I can sent you the patch
[16:03] <bdmurray> adding it to the bug is fine
[16:15] <toabctl> bdmurray, I added the patch to the bug and updated the bug info. is that enough?
[16:15] <toabctl> bdmurray, should I add ubuntu-sponsors to the bug?
[16:17] <bdmurray> toabctl: The syntax for closing Launchpad bugs is LP: #1638306 - closes is for Debian's BTS
[16:18] <toabctl> bdmurray, updated
[16:19] <bdmurray> toabctl: Why don't you subscribe ubuntu-sponsors in case I don't get to uploading it today.
[16:20] <toabctl> bdmurray, done. thx!
[16:29] <nael> I guys, new kid here. I've been occasionally reporting and triaging bugs since 2009 or 2010, and more consistently since 2016, especially bugs that affect me or my dad (in Déjà Dup, Flash support, MS core fonts support). I'm now considering joining the Bug Squad, and I've got two questions before I apply for membership.
[16:32] <rbasak> nael: hello. Go ahead and ask!
[16:34] <nael> First question: the BugSquad pages on Ubuntu Wiki are quite comprehensive as to all the tasks that bug triagers can do: responding to bugs, requesting information, setting bug status, marking duplicates, forwarding upstream, etc. But in actually, what is it that people do in this squad: does each of you triage bugs for just a few packages, like I've been doing until now? Or are you expected to triage bugs in a larger variety of pac
[16:34] <nael> Even in software you don't personnally use and don't know well?
[16:38] <nael> In other words: is the BugSquad a community of people who triage bugs in the package they know, or are they supposed to *triage all the things*?
[16:40] <bdmurray> nael: No, not all all the things.  Whatever you feel comfortable or want to work on is great!  The same is true with Bug Control.
[16:45] <rbasak> IMHO, it's not really about being "supposed" to do anything. Volunteers can help is as many or as few areas as they like. All (productive) contributions are gratefully accepted. So then it's just about making sure that contributions help rather than hinder our processes, and I see team membership as a gate to make sure that this happens (instead of wasting other people's time undoing changes).
[16:46] <rbasak> Though I never formally joined the bug squad; I'm automatically a member by being an Ubuntu developer.
[16:52] <nael> Thanks for the answers. rbasak, I don't completely understand - Bug Squad a gate to make sure that contributions (like... triaging?) help? Like, triagers outside of the Bug Squad can be suspected to not triage well b/c they haven't read the BugSquad wiki?
[16:54] <rbasak> Oh, I'm sorry. I think I confused the Bug Squad with the Bug Control team.
[16:56] <nael> Ah, yes, Bug Control is a subset of Bug Squad that have additional rights. Which sorta brings me to my second question.
[16:59] <nael> Second question: besides a feeling of community within the community, what exactly does Bug Squad membership brings? Contrary to Bug Control, I'm not seeing any additional rights or responsabilities that a BugSquad triager has compared to a non-affiliated triager (like me).
[17:00] <nael> Sure, BugSquad members are expected to behave according to the CoC and triage according to the TriageGuide... but really, so are all triagers.
[17:23] <bdmurray> nael: A cool badge in Launchpad and the feeling of community is all
[17:29] <nael> bdmurray: Ha, okay! Thanks for confirming!
[17:33] <nael> So, yeah, if I understand correctly: from the absence of additional rights and duties, to not being expected to triage the bugs in all the packages... there isn't so much difference between triaging as a BugSquad member, and triaging as I've done until now.
[17:34] <nael> Let's make it official then! I have signed the CoC, read the TriageGuide, subscribed to the ML. I'll apply for membership later tonight.
[17:35] <nael> Bonus question, before I go: why is the team a subteam of ubuntu-etherpad? This is not addressed, or mentionned, anywhere in the Wiki. Is that a tool the team often uses?
[17:37] <bdmurray> nael: No not often, usually during Ubuntu Online Summits
[17:38] <nael> Oh, okay. Never took part in one of them. One day perhaps!
[17:38] <nael> Thanks for helping me and answering my questions. Later!