[00:00] <lord-ragnarock> so the installer has me picking one of three kernels: linux-powerpc-smp, linux-image-powerpc-smp, and linux-image-3.2.0-23-powerpc-smp
[00:00] <lord-ragnarock> Any real difference between them? :P
[00:01] <kovu> k1l what do i type
[00:01] <kovu> k1l_:  what do i type please
[00:02] <k1l_> kovu: modprobe as i said. you need to name the module you use right there as i explained
[00:02] <Antergos> bet thanks
[00:02] <kovu> k1l_: i dont know the module
[00:03] <k1l_> kovu: lsmod or lspci -nnk will tell you, as i explained
[00:05] <kovu> k1l_: nothing is happening
[00:05] <kovu> k1l_: how can i tell what is the module
[00:06] <USBVideoAdapterW> ok I have copied and pasted as much as I can to this...
[00:06] <USBVideoAdapterW> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24030805/
[00:06] <USBVideoAdapterW> Any ideas?
[00:08] <USBVideoAdapterW> k1l gave me some advice trying to get the radion ati working this am, but it has not been succesful yet
[00:09] <kovu> k1l_: i typed what you said it came up with a load of text shall i pastebin it
[00:19] <USBVideoAdapterW> k1l are you up for another round?
[00:23] <plgos>  
[00:23] <USBVideoAdapterW> Any help?
[00:24] <USBVideoAdapterW> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24030805/
[00:24] <fred911> USBVideoAdapterW: just a jab here but how sure of you of the quality of your HDMI cable? If the interface looses connectivity it may be reverting back to to the VGA port
[00:26] <fred911> USBVideoAdapterW: additionally do you have the proper driver for the Radeon HD 6400M installed?
[00:27] <ttfn_42> I agree re: cable quality - I've had that behaviour before
[00:28] <fred911> I've had it happen frequently overseas with cheap Chinese cables
[00:28] <fred911> they're like string covered in aluminum foil for wires
[00:28] <OerHeks> like cheap LG 5K monitors
[00:29] <ttfn_42> Man, I've seen some of those LG monitors.  Very scary
[00:30] <fred911> I'm trying to get an HDMI 5.1 output profile in pulsaudio/also installed. I've got a 7.1 profile and ever since i update I no longer have 5.1 and it's not listed as an available output profile from Driver: module-alsa-card.c when I do a pactl list but I know my chipset support it, is it a driver issue or does anyone have an idea?
[00:32] <USBVideoAdapterW> fred911 sorry went to get a cup of coffee
[00:32] <fred911> USBVideoAdapterW: np
[00:33] <fred911> USBVideoAdapterW: just taking a stab here of what I would look at first
[00:33] <USBVideoAdapterW> fred 911 cable is great works wonderfully on exact same machine when booted to windows environment
[00:33] <USBVideoAdapterW> fred911 but my current project is all ubuntu, so I gotta get it working.
[00:34] <fred911> USBVideoAdapterW: that doesn't necessarily mean all the signal is being transfered properly, then again it doesn't mean it isnt:-)
[00:34] <fred911> USBVideoAdapterW: so you have the driver installed correctly?
[00:35] <USBVideoAdapterW> I believe so, it works, for a while, maybe 5 mins, maybe 30 seconds.
[00:35] <fred911> USBVideoAdapterW: I beleive it's unsuported and proprietary driver like Nvidias drivers are
[00:35] <USBVideoAdapterW> fred911, then it goes wonky
[00:36] <fred911> wow any temp issues ?
[00:36] <USBVideoAdapterW> fred911 cool as a cucumber
[00:39] <fred911> ok..bring up software updater click on additional drivers tab to assure the [Radeon HD 6400M driver is properly installed
[00:40] <fred911> USBVideoAdapterW: and.. do you have the HDMI set up as a mirror or an extended screen?
[00:41] <USBVideoAdapterW> fred911 in software and updates additional drivers lists nothing about video at all
[00:42] <fred911> ok.. there's the issue.. you need to install the [Radeon HD 6400M driver
[00:42] <ttfn_42> USBVideoAdapterW: are you using the amdgpu-pro driver?
[00:42] <USBVideoAdapterW> fred911 has a listing for unknown :Unknown this device is using an alternative driver
[00:43] <fred911> does it name the video device?
[00:43] <USBVideoAdapterW> \Using processor microcode firmware  for Intel CPUS
[00:43] <USBVideoAdapterW> that is it
[00:43] <fred911> ok that's just the CPU microcode driver..
[00:44] <USBVideoAdapterW> no name for video device on additional drivers tab
[00:44] <fred911> go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[00:44] <fred911> install the driver and then click on each monitor and assure you have resolution and refresh setup properly and you should be golden:-)
[00:46] <fred911> you probably need to install the Radion driver but that page should give you the tools
[00:47] <USBVideoAdapterW> fred911 will this driver work on 16.04?
[00:48] <fred911> or sorry the AMDGPU driver for 16.04 or newer
[00:49] <USBVideoAdapterW> so tdoes that mean I have to down grade  to make even the sub video driver work?
[00:49] <fred911> here's AMD's page: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst131ProprietaryLinuxGraphicsDriverReleaseNotes.aspx
[00:49] <fred911> no don't worry about it.
[00:50] <USBVideoAdapterW> the usb driver should be differnt I thought?
[00:50] <fred911> the driver supports both the video and HDMI output,.. wish I could me more specific but I use Nvidia.. and your interface shows to be HDMI not USB for video
[00:52] <USBVideoAdapterW> fred911 I have an external usb video adapter I can use if it would get me going...
[00:52] <USBVideoAdapterW> that is what I am plugged into now.
[00:52] <fred911> I'd go with HDMI and your VGA adapters
[00:53] <fred911> it's USB to HDMI or USB to VGA?
[00:53] <USBVideoAdapterW> I would if it would work.
[00:53] <fred911> ok the driver is your fix then.. 99.99% sure..
[00:53] <USBVideoAdapterW> but you said it wont on 16.04
[00:53] <fred911> just read the page
[00:54] <USBVideoAdapterW> it is usb to displayport
[00:54] <fred911> go here: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst131ProprietaryLinuxGraphicsDriverReleaseNotes.aspx
[00:57] <Robot1> hey, I just did echo `pwd` in a bash script i'm trying to get running and found out its pwd is my home directory.... how do I make it so its pwd is the directory i execute it under
[00:57] <Robot1> i'm executing it by "sudo bash filename"
[00:58] <Bashing-om> Robot1: Use the full path in the script .
[01:00] <Robot1> ya, that's what I was going to do, but it's a script distributed with openFOAM, so however they were originally running it, it had the pwd set to whereever they ran it from
[01:00] <Robot1> so why is it that when they ran it, they got a different pwd than I did?
[01:06] <fred911> USBVideoAdapterW: are you using dual monitors?
[01:11] <Robot1> is my .bashrc file not executed when I run a script through sudo bash abc
[01:14] <fred911> Robot1: if you have a normal ubuntu installation your shell is bash and your .bashrc should be executed upon boot (or when you call the shell)
[01:17] <fred911> Robot1: have you tried to drop the script into your ~home and execute it there?
[01:26] <Robot1> no I haven't.  I have a variable defined in my bashrc file and when i execute the script, it's not there.
[01:29] <Robot1> no I haven't.  I have a variable defined in my bashrc file and when i execute the script, it's not there.1
[01:29] <Robot1> ohhh!
[01:29] <Robot1> if i execute it under sudo, it doesn't have my bashrc file in there
[01:29] <Robot1> because it's a different user!
[01:30] <B105PH3RE> um well ya it always depends on who's running the script..
[01:30] <Robot1> the bashrc for my normal user and sudo are different
[01:31] <B105PH3RE> you can either add the variable to the bashrc of root or set the variable in the script after you sudo
[01:44] <turista> hello every1, I wonder if there's something I could do about this history: I did try to open an iso with the image writter (default from ubuntu 16.04) and it closes inmediately
[01:44] <turista> but I mount the iso and it opens as nothing happend, how can I fix the app or what should I do?¿
[01:44] <cfhowlett> turista, open an .iso?  why?
[01:44] <cfhowlett> what are you trying to accomplish
[01:45] <turista> to write the iso in a usb; but I hate that app, just this time I rly need it :-P~
[01:45] <cfhowlett> "that app"???
[01:46] <coffeeguy> hi i'm formatting a 1tb usb drive and selected write in 0's about how long should that take?
[01:46] <turista> app/program, it should be the same, do you know the name of it?¿ cuz I see it on spanish
[01:46] <B105PH3R1> turista: are you talking about dd
[01:47] <cfhowlett> turista standard ubuntu app should be startupdiskcreator
[01:47] <turista> no the startupdiskcreator or brasero or the image mounter, just the default image writer
[01:48] <Revya> Hello.
[01:48] <B105PH3R1> depends on your distro/window manager but for me its xfbunr
[01:48] <coffeeguy> and is there anyway to check the status of the drive being formatted?
[01:48] <B105PH3R1> xfburn*
[01:48] <turista> I made right click and it says "Escritor de imágenes de disco"
[01:48] <Revya> Is ubuntu for android still continued?
[01:48] <cfhowlett> Revya, no
[01:48] <cfhowlett> !touch | Revya
[01:48] <turista> I can mount the image with the another ubuntu apps/programs but just can't use that one now with that iso
[01:49] <Revya> yes. there is no hint of it on that site.
[01:49] <cfhowlett> Revya, ubuntu for android is abandonware
[01:49] <Revya> It is just that ubuntu touch doesn't offer compatibility with android apps, though?
[01:49] <cfhowlett> Revya, as I understand it, but #ubuntu-touch is the place to discuss this
[01:50] <Revya> ok.
[01:50] <Revya> #join #ubuntu-touch
[01:51] <cfhowlett> turista, let's track this down.  open a terminal  and do       inxi -F | pastebinit
[01:51] <turista> lemme install inxi first
[01:52] <coffeeguy> oh that was easy just use 'disks' in start menu
[02:00] <turista> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24031307
[02:02] <turista> if u can tell me how can I fix driver stuff, tell me ur secret :-P but now, just the image writter
[02:02] <cfhowlett> turista, got it.  One last thing: let's set the terminal to english for now: LC_ALL=C
[02:03] <turista> should I retype the command again?¿
[02:04] <cfhowlett> turista, LC_ALL=C | inxi -F | pastebinit
[02:19] <turista> its taking long cuz I did type sudo apt-get update and gosh
[02:19] <cfhowlett> turista, well you should be doing that on a regular basis, yes?
[02:20] <cfhowlett> but to make sure you get *all* the new goodies, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[02:21] <turista> I always did want to know if I can full install something, cuz several time it miss some packages >_<
[02:21] <cfhowlett> turista, and that is why you should run those 2 commands every week
[02:22] <turista> with this broadband I hope to get success
[02:35] <turista> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24031481 btw the full upgrade did not make effect
[02:36] <cfhowlett> turista, OK then.  Now, WHAT?  exactly is your goal?  Mount the .iso and ...? what?
[02:40] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, i just read back, turista wants to write to usb ?
[02:40] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, not entirely clear ...
[02:41] <OerHeks> true, so lets here it
[02:41] <OerHeks> c/here/hear
[02:41] <cfhowlett> :)
[02:41] <LittleJohn> i seem to have become your VIP it seems -_-
[02:41] <turista> look
[02:42] <turista> be at my side, find an iso then right click to it
[02:42] <turista> it should show an "image writter" program, it does not need to mount it
[02:42] <LittleJohn> Vbox seems not to be willing to help so i came here ones again
[02:42] <OerHeks> turista, we know how to mount an iso and read it; what is your goal?
[02:42] <turista> it shows several options but one of these (ubuntu 16.04) its the image writer
[02:42] <turista> well my goal its to use it
[02:43] <dorien> ??
[02:43] <turista> it closes after trying to open it
[02:43] <LittleJohn> My kali linux wont get wifi or wired network now vbox do not have any help it seems or they just have lost there fingers im sitting right now and trieng to get response thou they just seem to ignore me
[02:44] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, kali is the guest or the host?
[02:45] <OerHeks> turista, so you want to burn it to dvd or usb?
[02:45] <LittleJohn> guesst offcores
[02:46] <OerHeks> LittleJohn, no wonder, we don't support kali.
[02:46] <LittleJohn> Bu i get error window everytime i start ubuntu (i am using Ubuntu 16.04LTS 64bit and this is my wifi ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter and this is my wired Ok i cant find the wired)
[02:46] <turista> to an usb
[02:47] <OerHeks> turista, and on what OS do you want to create that usb?
[02:47] <turista> when wired connection I always use the auto connection option w.w
[02:47] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, vbox settings > network > enable network adapter > Attached to: NAT
[02:48] <turista> its a nas4 iso freebsd that I want to burn
[02:48] <cfhowlett> turista, startupdiskcreator will not burn a freebsd: ubuntu only.
[02:48] <turista> but the program even do not open and I can open it with the mount files but these
[02:48] <LittleJohn> I use NAT and not NAT network and no filters
[02:48] <turista> do you think that its about the format file?¿ it reads .img then not .iso?¿
[02:49] <LittleJohn> my main problem is that my wifi do not find my own router thou
[02:49] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, this is a virtualbox problem,not an ubuntu problem.  suggest you read the virtualbox man and/or ask the vbox forums
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[02:49] <LittleJohn> ok
[02:49] <cfhowlett> !ops
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[02:49] <OerHeks> !ops
[02:50] <OerHeks> time for mode +R ..
[02:52] <OerHeks> turista, easy to write on comandline: dd if=/path/to/iso.img of=/dev/sbX bs=1M # where X is your usb device sdb sdc sdd or something like that
[02:53] <LittleJohn> I would not call Ubuntu error windows Virtualbox issues
[02:54] <turista> without sudo?¿ gonna try it though
[02:54] <B105PH3RE> LittleJohn: you mean your unable to connect to your wifi or are you not getting network connectivity?
[02:55] <LittleJohn> well the only thing i seem to be able to get help with is now the errors i get when loging in to ubuntu
[02:55] <LittleJohn> what is the command for checking startup log ? :/
[02:55] <B105PH3RE> which erors
[02:56] <B105PH3RE> after you login in to your desktop session?
[02:56] <B105PH3RE> /var/crash
[02:56] <LittleJohn> yes
[02:56] <LittleJohn> thats what i do not remeber and do not know how to lookup exept to restart my pc and copyeng the message
[02:56] <LittleJohn> thou i do not think its a network problem i think its a theme problem
[02:57] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, are you on the computer now?
[02:57] <LittleJohn> it started to happend between theme modification and network problems
[02:57] <LittleJohn> yes
[02:57] <cfhowlett> so it DID login?
[02:58] <LittleJohn> the messages apears in windows asking me to send report to ubuntu
[02:58] <LittleJohn> when loging in
[02:58] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, so send the error message.
[02:58] <LittleJohn> ive done it
[02:58] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, next issue?
[02:59] <LittleJohn> vbox channel
[02:59] <LittleJohn> they seem to have a main error on replying
[02:59] <drtomdanger> I got a weird thing happening with my machine and I'm curious if anyone would be willing to give their two cents on it...  Don't need a full tech support or anything.
[02:59] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, vbox is not ubuntu.  we have no say or control over what they do.
[03:00] <LittleJohn> then i must turn to kali linux and try to ask them.. does freenode have kal channel too if i may ask ?
[03:00] <cfhowlett> !kali | LittleJohn
[03:01] <drtomdanger> Alright, advice on a general tech question channel?  not linux specific then?
[03:02] <LittleJohn> well i just have to hope that this channel i came in now is the main kali then...
[03:02] <cfhowlett> drtomdanger, ask?
[03:02] <OerHeks> drtomdanger, we don't know your question yet?
[03:02] <B105PH3RE> drtomdanger: spill the beans.
[03:02] <B105PH3RE> don't ask to ask just ask!
[03:02] <B105PH3RE> :)
[03:04] <drtomdanger> Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.04 both on an SSD.  Works fine.  Two mechanical drives, 2 tb and 1 tb.  On windows - the drives are slow to respond, freezing, not listing directories appropriately.  In Ubuntu - they work fine.  I assumed in Windows that it was failing hard drives, but both at the same time seems odd.
[03:04] <drtomdanger> I chkdsk and tested their health.  Got some errors in windows with those utilities.  But again, in Ubunutu everything is gravy.
[03:04] <cfhowlett> drtomdanger, if it works well with ubuntu, sounds like not an ubuntu issue.  and windows errors should be discussed with ##windows
[03:04] <drtomdanger> Basic question is this - are they just both failing or could it be a problem with windows, OR, is Ubunutu jusst better at handling the hiccups?
[03:05] <OerHeks> 2 cents .. windows got malware :-D
[03:05] <cfhowlett> +1
[03:05] <JohnDoe2> drtomdanger does SMART look OK for both drives?
[03:05] <turista> how can I see if the usb is a ssd or these stuff to put it in the script line?¡¿
[03:05] <drtomdanger> had some write errors and non attributable errors (i think that was the category)
[03:06] <OerHeks> drtomdanger, did you ever used fsck on ubuntu for those drives? i
[03:06] <drtomdanger> Oer - no, chkdsk came back with no errors on either drive.
[03:06] <drtomdanger> I thought about... probably should have done it before asking.
[03:07] <drtomdanger> You're thinking malware though?
[03:07] <cfhowlett> drtomdanger, seems reasonable, but really now: ask ##windows
[03:08] <OerHeks> drtomdanger, no, just asking, because if you did: the malware/virus on windows goes bonkers after repair/removal naughty bits
[03:08] <cfhowlett> could even be that windows doesn't want to peacefully co-exist with ubuntu
[03:08] <OerHeks> yeah, windows issue
[03:08] <JohnDoe2> drtomdanger are the drives formatted as NTFS?
[03:08] <drtomdanger> cfhow: I gotcha, I've just been researching it and thought perhaps the linux side would know better why there would be a difference over the majority of windows users.
[03:09] <drtomdanger> John: yup, ntfs
[03:09] <lerner> is there a command to turn off all daemons, or do I have to turn them off one by one?
[03:09] <drtomdanger> cfhow:  they've been installed and peaceful for over a year now.  recent issue.
[03:09] <cfhowlett> drtomdanger, ah!  I retract my wild guess, then.
[03:10] <LittleJohn> Btw, how can i check if my reported issues has been solved ?
[03:10] <JohnDoe2> drtomdanger if you are able to, put your ear to each drive while windows seems "slow" to list directories, or is stuck. If you hear cyclical noises (same noise, repeated too many times), that's a clear indication that the head is having trouble reading over a portion of the platter. I'm sure you've already planned, but just in case: have backups.
[03:10] <cfhowlett> drtomdanger, however: ntfs is know to fragment over time.  linux self-corrects this much more reliably than windows does
[03:10] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, reported to whom?
[03:10] <trompstomp> hi all. Iwas hoping someone could clear up a package questions for me. I usually run Lubuntu or Xubuntu and have messed around with Kubuntu. Each of these flavors has had their own set of restricted package: ex: kubunutu-restricted-extras, lubuntu-restricted-extras and so forth. I have just installed ubuntu-gnome and I was not able to install restricted extras during the installation process and would now like to install them.
[03:10] <trompstomp> However I have noticed there is not a gubuntu-restricted-extras or -ubuntu-gnome-restricted-extras. Does Gnome have thier own, or should I use the regular ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:11] <cfhowlett> trompstomp, if you have installed ubuntu-gnome, use gubuntu
[03:11] <LittleJohn> "send report to ubuntu" messagers
[03:11] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, then it's been reported.  you're done
[03:11] <OerHeks> lerner, turn off *all* daemons? sudo shutdown now -h
[03:11] <drtomdanger> And just to mention to the room, I understand this may be a windows issue but I trust the knowledge base of this group way more than others and it's a bizarre issue in the first place and hard to figure out exactly what to google.
[03:11] <cfhowlett> as far as the fix: regular system maintenance: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade       on a regular basis
[03:12] <trompstomp> cfhowlett, I can not find the package gubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:12] <LittleJohn> ...
[03:12] <cfhowlett> trompstomp, then ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:12] <drtomdanger> John:  Good idea.  I've got the important stuff backed up, just not exactly looking forward to buying another 3-4 tb of hard drives.
[03:12] <OerHeks> gubuntu-restricted-extras >> ubuntu-restricted-extras  ( without g )
[03:13] <nicomachus> i'm a BIG fan of gubuntu
[03:13] <nicomachus> gentoo+ubuntu=best of both worlds
[03:13] <OerHeks> agubuntu then? arch, gentoo, ubuntu?
[03:13] <drtomdanger> one more follow up, does it make sense that the ssd operating systems work fine if I don't access the mechanical drives if it is a malware issue?
[03:14] <OerHeks> drtomdanger, no, but how would we know? you determent it is a windows issue.
[03:15] <LittleJohn> i just do not understand how the report can be solved if now the problem lies here and not in the report
[03:15] <trompstomp> OerHeks, thanks. Any reason lubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu all have a sepate package for restricted extras but gnome uses the same as standard ubunntu? Is it because Unity is a fork of gnome?
[03:15] <OerHeks> trompstomp, good question, i don't know the answer either..
[03:15] <cfhowlett> trompstomp, tis a mystery
[03:15] <OerHeks> unity runs on gnome3
[03:15] <turista> it seems its working but I can't see the progress with a bar or % >_<
[03:16] <drtomdanger> Oer: I understand, but part of my question was, is it possible linux is just better at dealing with a failing hard drive.
[03:16] <LittleJohn> i do not know what gnome3 is, i know what GTK3 is thou not gnome3
[03:16] <OerHeks> drtomdanger, no, it does not care for malicious hooks in MBR and such.
[03:16] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, no one said solved.  It's been reported.  Now it can be triaged.  Perhaps a priority fix will be issued or perhaps not.  If in doubt, file a bug report and wait
[03:16] <trompstomp> OerHeks, cfhowlett, Thanks! I appreciate the help.
[03:17] <cfhowlett> trompstomp, happy2help1
[03:17] <LittleJohn> soooo the best solution is to reinstall ubuntu...
[03:17] <drtomdanger> Alight, thanks everyone, I'll look to the windows channel and see if there's anything that can be done, most likely start deep searching the drives for malware.
[03:17] <B105PH3RE> LittleJohn: the popup message you mean?
[03:18] <drtomdanger> LAST question, can I search out malware in windows and on those drives from linux?
[03:18] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, no. regularly update ubuntu.
[03:18] <B105PH3RE> those are from /var/crash and will show upon login everytime unless you delete them
[03:18] <cfhowlett> drtomdanger, yep.  clamAV
[03:18] <drtomdanger> You guys are the best.  Thank you so much.
[03:18] <LittleJohn> ok
[03:18] <kantlivelong> with lm-sensors how do i know which is the correct sensor for my cpu?
[03:19] <OerHeks> drtomdanger, there are antivirus apps that can run on linux, i would not. use a live iso most antivirus-vendors provide for free, so the system is not running at all.
[03:20] <nicomachus> !info clamav
[03:20] <OerHeks> kantlivelong, sensors detect does that for you
[03:20] <nicomachus> !info clamtk
[03:22] <Bashing-om> drtomdanger: Seeing freezes and ATA errors when the SSD is cinnected to the same DATA buss wuth a hard drive ??
[03:22] <Bashing-om> connected*
[03:23] <turista> !info apt-fast
[03:24] <OerHeks> apt-fast is old and gone, before trusty 14.04
[03:25] <turista> rly?¿ gosh that magazine -_-
[03:25] <turista> then I should remove it from the sources, it drains me time :-P
[03:26] <OerHeks> so apt-fast is slowing apt down for you?
[03:26] <OerHeks> ( without existence? )
[03:27] <drtomdanger> bashing: everything is SATA if that's what you're asking?
[03:29] <kantlivelong> OerHeks: its not very clear as to which is the right one
[03:30] <Bashing-om> drtomdanger: Well I suffered the above issues when installing to a new SSD, moving the hard drives off the SATA buss that the SSD was on resolved a lot of issues .
[03:30] <turista> I did apt-fast resources but I forgot how to edit the sources.list file, and where it is
[03:32] <drtomdanger> bashing:  Ya, what's so weird is that this is a new issue as of 3 days ago when the drives have all been playing nice for a year+
[03:32] <OerHeks> kantlivelong, if you run 'sensors', it would be coretemp-isa i think
[03:32] <kantlivelong> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/dui7rUmF
[03:33] <OerHeks> kantlivelong, bottom of your post: coretemp-isa
[03:33] <kantlivelong> OerHeks: not PECI?
[03:34] <turista> wich's the inverse of apt-add ?¿ :-P I need to delete that apt-fast repository
[03:34] <OerHeks> line 1-19 = motherboard, 22-25 videocard
[03:34] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[03:34] <turista> ty ty
[03:35] <OerHeks> turista, but you can easily delete that ppa line, it could NEVER have installed a package
[03:35] <turista> gosh it tells me it does not know that command
[03:35] <turista> I always forget where that file it is :-P
[03:35] <turista> to delete the line with nano
[03:36] <cfhowlett> turista, please read        /msg ubottu pppapurge
[03:36] <turista> I'm installing it now :-P~
[03:36] <OerHeks> turista, delete the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ <aptfast>.list
[03:37] <OerHeks> err lines > file
[03:37] <turista> isn't it sources.list ?¿
[03:38] <OerHeks> no.
[03:39] <turista> its not working >_<
[03:39] <turista> but testing the ppa purge now
[03:42] <bjpenn> anyone know how sometimes when installing a package it may say "Processing triggers for ... ". How does this process work? I have a package that's triggering sudo to be installed, but i'm trying to figure out how. I extracted the package and looked into postinst but no triggers are in there
[03:43] <turista> I like triggers too
[03:44] <OerHeks> bjpenn, post install triggers .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/178773/is-there-a-way-to-see-what-exactly-the-processing-triggers-does-per-package-ba
[03:44] <OerHeks> just a script to make the install complete
[03:47] <turista> Oer you that know it all, share your knowledge to me about drivers
[03:47] <turista> cuz I have them installed but the display is unknown and the audio never talks
[03:48] <bel_ki> HI
[03:49] <hggdh> bjpenn: also, sudo is installed by default on Ubuntu... if sudo is being set to be installed, this means you removed it -- which is a very, VERY, bad idea
[03:49] <bel_ki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24031764/ <-- hardware or software error?
[03:51] <turista> the apt-fast stuff is not gone, gosh >_<
[03:51] <OerHeks> bjpenn, i read you in ##linux too, you ask a question about packetbeat  that is not in our repos. ( might be malware itself)
[04:14] <stanford_ai> hi. When I connect to the webcam, and then kill the process forcefully, I cannot connect to the webcam anymore by running the program again. I have to reboot. Is there any way to avoid rebooting for this?
[04:17] <barnex> hello
[04:17] <stanford_ai> hi
[04:19] <barnex> I'm having a weirdest issue with tmuxinator I think. When I use nvim, I'm getting all sorts of weird control sequences
[04:20] <barnex> Like when I open a new file and press 'i' to go into insert mode, suddenly some stuff pops up:
[04:21] <barnex> http://imgur.com/a/U5k1I
[04:21] <barnex> control sequences like this also randomly pop up inside the file when I enter/exit insert mode and in the command line when I'm using the command mode
[04:26]  * j2bv16 Kappa
[04:27] <mojtaba> Hello, I have a lenovo T440s, with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. The problem is that the internal keyboard does not work and it seems the 'Fn' key is pressed. (When I press the tab bar the keyboard back light changes, or when I press the Function keys, it works like I am pressing the Fn key.)
[04:28] <mojtaba> Do you know what should I do to fix this problem?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, verify that you have selected the correct keyboard layout
[04:28] <mojtaba> I can not type with the built-in keyboard, I am using an external keyboard now
[04:28] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: There is no output with the keyboard
[04:29] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: nothing works, (no letter, no enter, ...)
[04:29] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, I'd look in your settings first
[04:30] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: What should I look for exactly?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, well for one, manufacturer and model number matches?
[04:31] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: Where should I check that?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, system > settings > keyboard
[04:33] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: It has just these options: 'Repeat keys', and 'Cursor Blinking'
[04:33] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, system > settings > keyboard > layout
[04:33] <townes321_> I'm running into a dependency problem. With installing Enlightenment. It failed, and I got an error that dependencies were not installed (it showed that it tried to overwrite various libraries but failed)
[04:34] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: It is as expected.
[04:34] <townes321_> I ran "sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install -f" and this appears to have overwritten some libraries, but apt-get install enlightenment is still trying to overwrite libraries and failing
[04:34] <mojtaba> That is why I can type with an external keyboard
[04:35] <townes321_> So.. I guess I'm asking, how can I tell apt-get to overwrite like I did with force-overwrite ?
[04:37] <townes321_> Ideally I'd like install enlightment, and then purge it. At the end of the day I'm just trying to clean this up, because I can't dist-upgrade while the libraries are messed up
[04:37] <townes321_> Ideally I'd like install enlightment, and then purge it. At the end of the day I'm just trying to clean this up, because I can't dist-upgrade while the libraries are messed up
[04:39] <stanford_ai> When I ssh into my laptop, and then I want to ssh again in another terminal, it never prompts for a password and never lets me login again. Is there something I need to do to allow multiple incoming ssh connections at once?
[04:40] <mojtaba> any one else?
[04:41] <townes321_> stanford_ai: It should be set up to allow it by default. grep “Protocol” /etc/ssh/sshd_config <--- do you get Protocol 2
[04:41] <townes321_> stanford_ai: It should be set up to allow it by default. grep “Protocol” /etc/ssh/sshd_config <--- do you get Protocol 2
[04:41] <stanford_ai> i get nothing
[04:42] <stanford_ai> townes321_, i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24032019/
[04:42] <townes321_> Okay you are setup to allow multiple connections (that's the default), hold on
[04:42] <townes321_> Lemme google
[04:46] <townes321_> stanford_ai: I'm still here. Sorry.
[04:47] <townes321_> stanford_ai: I'm not entirely sure, but below maxsessions, add this: MaxSessions 10
[04:47] <townes321_> And restart your server and test it
[04:47] <townes321_> Sorry, below MaxStartups
[04:47] <townes321_> It says this is default but it's not in yours and it's not in mine. Dunno why
[04:51] <townes321_> stanford_ai: if this fails, try adding this to your config: http://pastebin.com/XCBYV16E
[04:53] <neil_> where could I talk about hardware compatability between cpu and memory
[04:54] <xiwasneverhere> neil_: anything specific?
[04:56] <neil_> xiwasneverhere, I have 32GB of DDR3-1600 1.35V ... but the website says the cpu needs "DDR3 and DDR3L 1333/1600 at 1.5V" ... this doesn't look good to me ... am I correct in this
[04:57] <xiwasneverhere> link to the website?
[04:57] <neil_> xiwasneverhere, http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/395030/CPU_INTEL_SOCKET_1150_PROCESSORS/Intel/BX80646I34170.asp
[04:57] <xiwasneverhere> what mobo are u using?
[04:59] <neil_> xiwasneverhere, I haven't decided (for a server only need some Gbit lans) .. as I have some memory (from a board that stopped working) ... find CPU ... match board to CPU ...
[05:02] <xiwasneverhere> neil_: yea you'll need 1.5V
[05:02] <xiwasneverhere> you can overclock it to around 1.65 tho
[05:03] <xiwasneverhere> problem is, evne if u adjust the voltage in the BIOS
[05:03] <xiwasneverhere> RAM stability becomes an issue
[05:04] <neil_> xiwasneverhere, ok, so I need to find a CPU that can work with a lower voltage?
[05:05] <patientpl> hi
[05:05] <patientpl> im trying to update a linux debian machine and im getting this error message after an apt upgrade https://paste.ee/p/eXypb
[05:05] <xiwasneverhere> neil_: si senor
[05:05] <neil_> xiwasneverhere, does the CPU cause the motherboard to change the RAM voltage?
[05:05] <patientpl> its actually a kali machine but i think its a debian problem - so any help or feedback would be very much appreciated
[05:07] <xiwasneverhere> neil_: the ram voltage is the main thing here
[05:08] <xiwasneverhere> u might be able to get away with 1.4 but 1.35 seems a bit low
[05:09] <neil_> xiwasneverhere, that is what it says on the package sicker!
[05:10] <caesar__> hi
[05:10] <caesar__> is there any tool for ubuntu for managing the EXSi Server
[05:10] <caesar__> alternative of vSphere
[05:10] <caesar__> please help
[05:10] <xiwasneverhere> neil_: im gonna finish my drink. ill be afk. have a good one
[05:27] <lord-arhemadan> Ubuntu PPC, Got this upon starting up for the first time: "vhci_hcd 0000:00:0e.0: OHCI Unrecoverable Error, Scheduling NEC Chip Restart"
[05:27] <lord-arhemadan> Any clue yall? :p
[05:37] <Loyal_> Does any one every talk?
[05:37] <B105PH3RE> sometimes
[05:37] <Loyal_> ok
[05:37] <B105PH3RE> unless someone has something to contribute we don't general talk
[05:38] <B105PH3RE> lord-arhemadan: version release?
[05:38] <lord-arhemadan> 12.04 LTS, PPC
[05:38] <B105PH3RE> gui? window manager your using?
[05:38] <B105PH3RE> video card?
[05:39] <lord-arhemadan> I just found out what OHCI means, so I know what the issue has to do with, haha
[05:39] <B105PH3RE> and?
[05:39] <lord-arhemadan> Something with my USB card, no clue what though
[05:39] <omnigoat> I'm about to upgrade to 16.04.2 and want to switch to the update path for newer kernel releases. Can I do this without pulling bunch of X server packages? (On wiki.ubuntu.com it is suggested that you run "--install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04")
[05:40] <lord-arhemadan> Also, pretty sure the WM is Unity at the moment, but I haven't even had a chance to boot this silly machine past a mouse on a purple background since my install finished
[05:40] <lord-arhemadan> And well, now it's stopping even sooner with that error, during the "starting ____ [OK]" process
[05:44] <B105PH3RE> im not familiar with ppc so
[05:44] <B105PH3RE> is that powerpc or mac hardware?
[05:44] <lord-arhemadan> Oh weird, 2nd or 3rd reboot and it's going again :P
[05:45] <lord-arhemadan> And it's PowerPC Macintosh.... Pre-G3 ;)
[05:45] <B105PH3RE> but NEC Chip Restart?
[05:45] <lord-arhemadan> It didn't give me that this time...
[05:45] <lord-arhemadan> These things are so unpredictable sometimes :P
[05:46] <B105PH3RE> well its computers isn't it
[05:46] <lord-arhemadan> Yep!
[05:46] <B105PH3RE> hey at least its not windows!
[05:46] <lord-arhemadan> Only drawback now is my USB things aren't working, but hey whatever for now.
[05:46] <lord-arhemadan> It's Ubuntu and it works on a 22 year old machine :D
[05:47] <Southern_Gentlem> B105PH3RE, old Motorola chipset
[05:47] <B105PH3RE> so you have no usb devices working?
[05:47] <lord-arhemadan> Unfortunately no
[05:47] <B105PH3RE> motorola eh nice
[05:47] <lord-arhemadan> Weirdly enough it worked perfectly fine when I was booting off the alternate CD
[05:47] <B105PH3RE> is your usb onboard or a pci carD?
[05:48] <lord-arhemadan> PCI card. USB wouldn't be included in a mac till 1998 hahaha
[05:48] <B105PH3RE> see if you have additional drivers program
[05:48] <Southern_Gentlem> i was typeing pre G3 would be pre usb
[05:48] <B105PH3RE> does the device show on lspci
[05:49] <lord-arhemadan> Will try soon :P
[05:49] <lord-arhemadan> Trying to figure out why my username never made it in lol
[05:50] <lord-arhemadan> Ummmm, quick question... What do I do if my user account never made it through the install, and I never set up root ._.
[05:50] <B105PH3RE> can you login as your user?
[05:51] <lord-arhemadan> not at all :/
[05:51] <B105PH3RE> then your messed
[05:51] <B105PH3RE> you would have to reinstall
[05:51] <lord-arhemadan> Think I could chroot from the alt CD?
[05:51] <B105PH3RE> so never lock out yourself
[05:51] <lord-arhemadan> and then do useradd?
[05:52] <B105PH3RE> you can't because the alt cd will be a different system
[05:52] <lord-arhemadan> gah :/
[05:52] <lord-arhemadan> man that's BS hahaha.
[05:52] <Cheime> I have ubuntu 14 server edition. I install a desktop light weight. I click on ubunutu store to try to install firefox or any other software but the install button wont click.
[05:52] <Cheime> what do i need to do to get firefox.
[05:53] <lord-arhemadan> I spent about 3-4 days trying to figure this out, fearing my CD drive might be failing. I guess one more time might not hurt :P
[05:53] <B105PH3RE> Cheime: try running it as sudo
[05:53] <JairunCaloth> lord-arhemadan: you should be able to to boot into recovery mode and get a root prompt
[05:54] <lord-arhemadan> Hm. That is right. Trying to figure out what kind of kernel argument would let me do that.
[05:54] <Cheime> i am a noob when it comes to using the terminal.
[05:54] <Loyal_> Cheime open terimenal and type "Sudo apt-get update && apt-get install firefox -y"
[05:54] <JairunCaloth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[05:54] <Cheime> Loyal_ ok i am going to try now
[05:55] <JairunCaloth> lord-arhemadan: also, your idea of booting a livecd and chrooting would also work.
[05:55] <lord-arhemadan> Oh, good!
[05:55] <lord-arhemadan> In that case I'll ust do that hahaha
[05:56] <JairunCaloth> Honestly, recovery mode is probably the easier option
[05:56] <lord-arhemadan> By far yes, if I can find out how to do that in PPC :P
[05:57] <lord-arhemadan> Just have to type "linux somethingsomethingsomething root=/dev/sdxx" I hope?
[05:58] <JairunCaloth> Recovery mode should already be installed as an option to pick in grub
[05:59] <JairunCaloth> The wiki link I pasted in above has the details on acessing it.
[05:59] <JairunCaloth> Basically, after POST, hold shift, if you see the ubuntu logo, you've gone too far.
[06:00] <lord-arhemadan> Errr, thing is with 22yo Mac hardware, I don't exactly use a bootloader :'D
[06:00] <Loyal_> Cheime did it work?
[06:00] <lord-arhemadan> I use a Mac OS 9 app that takes in ramdisks, kernels and bootargs, and then quits Mac OS.
[06:00] <JairunCaloth> Oh...
[06:00] <Cheime> i am looking for terminal in desktop cant find it
[06:00] <lord-arhemadan> Yeah I didn't exactly provide context did I... Sorry :(
[06:01] <Loyal_> Cheime ctrl+alt+t
[06:01] <JairunCaloth> lord-arhemadan: In that case, I have no experience with that.
[06:01] <lord-arhemadan> I know with the GRUB rescue prompt, you can manually type in kernel arguments after typing in "linux", like "nosplash" and "video=xxx"
[06:02] <lord-arhemadan> So I'm wondering if I could transfer that over here somehow :P
[06:02] <lord-arhemadan> ....Hey wait a minute, I have another laptop with Zorin. I could read the recovery menu script :D
[06:02] <JairunCaloth> Where do you define your kernel boot parameters?
[06:03] <lord-arhemadan> In the Mac OS 9 app, before I hit the "Linux" button
[06:03] <B105PH3RE> JairunCaloth: i
[06:03] <lord-arhemadan> After that I basically have to reboot and wait for it to pop up again :)
[06:03] <B105PH3RE> JairunCaloth: if you using grub its /etc/default/grub
[06:03] <lord-arhemadan> Weird, my hard drive's clicking suddenly
[06:03] <JairunCaloth> Ah ok, so I guess you would need to set the correct kernel parameters in your app to enter recovery mode
[06:04] <lord-arhemadan> I've been googling too. Would "linux ro" be right?
[06:04] <Cheime> it says sudo: unable to change to root gid: Operation not permitted
[06:04] <JairunCaloth> lord-arhemadan: looks like you just need to add the 'recovery' parameter
[06:04] <B105PH3RE> if you want recovery mode you can press hotkey at boot to show the grub loaded and you have an option for recovery mode
[06:04] <lord-arhemadan> Oh... that as easy lol
[06:05] <lord-arhemadan> *that makes sense
[06:05] <lord-arhemadan> I'll reboot and try it :)
[06:05] <JairunCaloth> This is what my recovery mode kernel commandline looks like.
[06:05] <Loyal_> Cheime did you make the account your using during the install of ubuntu or after?
[06:05] <B105PH3RE> you hold shift at boot time
[06:05] <JairunCaloth> linux  /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-62-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=7123fee2-8c00-4544-8c46-93393fffe505 ro recovery nomodeset
[06:05] <Cheime> I did it after
[06:06] <lord-arhemadan> Oh nice, you go by UUIDs ;)
[06:06] <lord-arhemadan> What's nomodeset do?
[06:06] <Loyal_> Use the account that you made during the install
[06:07] <Cheime> the account i had before was root
[06:07] <Loyal_> OH
[06:07] <Cheime> how to login root
[06:07] <JairunCaloth> lord-arhemadan: tells the kernel not to load video drivers
[06:07] <Loyal_> su root
[06:07] <B105PH3RE> just su
[06:07] <lord-arhemadan> Oh. There's actually a checkbox for that in the OS 9 App :D
[06:08] <JairunCaloth> There you go, the easy button :)
[06:08] <lord-arhemadan> "No Vvdeo driver"
[06:08] <JairunCaloth> I think the idea is if something is messed up with the video driver, you might not be able to get into recovery.
[06:08] <lord-arhemadan> Alright, fingers crossed :D
[06:08] <Loyal_> Cheime do usermod -a -G sudo (username) to give your new account sudo
[06:08] <Loyal_> once your loged in to root
[06:09] <JairunCaloth> lord-arhemadan: yeah, don't forget to make your new user a sudoer
[06:09] <B105PH3RE> need to be part of sudoers file also
[06:09] <lord-arhemadan> Oh right. Thanks for reminding my tired butt lol
[06:10] <JairunCaloth> On my 16.04 system, the sudo group has sudo permissions by default.
[06:10] <Cheime> setgid: operation not permitted
[06:11] <Loyal_> When you do what command?
[06:11] <Cheime> usermod -a -G sudo (username) - says "usermod: permission denied"
[06:11] <B105PH3RE> you need to sudo it
[06:11] <Cheime> first i did su root
[06:11] <B105PH3RE> sudo usermode blah
[06:11] <B105PH3RE> just su
[06:11] <Cheime> then user -a -G sude root
[06:11] <B105PH3RE> you should root at that point then you don
[06:13] <Cheime> I am going to restart it
[06:15] <lord-arhemadan> Well, decided to change out my USB card to see if that damn kernel panic went away, cause it made its way into recovery mode too :P
[06:15] <lord-arhemadan> So let's hope all's well thre too
[06:16] <Cheime> when I logoff its only giving me Guest
[06:16] <Cheime> http://i66.tinypic.com/2hictfl.jpg
[06:17] <lord-arhemadan> You know, if I do this with the right drivers, I can actually get a wireless N card to work with it :)
[06:17] <lord-arhemadan> Oh wow, changing the card worked...
[06:18] <Cheime> I am login as a temporary guest
[06:18] <Loyal_> Cheime, ctrl+alt+F1, then log in as root
[06:19] <lord-arhemadan> Hey, remind me really quick, what are some default supplementary groups? :)
[06:20] <alkisg> lord-arhemadan:  grep Groups /etc/gnome-system-tools/user-profiles.conf
[06:20] <alkisg> The first one is for users, the second for administrators
[06:21] <lord-arhemadan> Thanks :)
[06:21] <alkisg> np
[06:23] <Cheime> Loyal_ when i am in terminal it says "No command 'sud' found
[06:24] <Cheime> and yes i typed in sudo not sud
[06:24] <Cheime> but to start going into desktop with root now should I just enter startx
[06:25] <Loyal_> yes
[06:27] <Loyal_> Cheime,  If you want to install firefox still and ok with the security risks of always running root you can now open a terminal and type in "apt-get update && apt-get install firefox"
[06:28] <chenault> bonjour je suis un nouveau sur ubuntu
[06:28] <Cheime> i did this but dont know the location of firefox. I dont see anything on desktop like I saw on guest account
[06:28] <Loyal_> type firefox in the term now
[06:28] <Loyal_> and it will start
[06:29] <Cheime> ok cool that worked
[06:29] <Cheime> thanks
[06:29] <chenault> heelo
[06:32] <ieexplore> .
[06:32] <alkisg> ..
[06:38] <jmadero> I have an ext4 partition that is mounted just as defaults from fstab, when I delete something from the partition it, it says "Cannot move to trash, do you want to delete immediately"
[06:44] <lord-arhemadan> Well, good news is: The desktop loads after 10 minutes, and this 22 year old Macintosh has Wireless N for the first time!
[06:44] <Walker_m> jmadero: bug
[06:44] <lord-arhemadan> The bad news is: The desktop takes 10 minutes to load. How much faster would XFCE be, or should I just go for Openbox/IceWM?
[06:45] <B105PH3RE> xfce
[06:45] <lord-arhemadan> You really think so? :p
[06:46] <bsdunix> lord-arhemadan not much difference between xfce / openbox. pick one. ssd and more ram.
[06:46] <lord-arhemadan> More RAM should be my next investment :P
[06:46] <B105PH3RE> any special parameters or config to run ssd
[06:46] <bsdunix> no
[06:47] <lord-arhemadan> And SSD shouldn't be too difficult even on this old fart. There's a couple PCI cards that do SATA that work with it.
[06:48] <lord-arhemadan> Gawd this is so freaking cool to watch lmao
[06:49] <bsdunix> well. 22 years old. i beg to differ. i may be wrong! maybe it was scsi...no ssd option?
[06:50] <lord-arhemadan> It's a SCSI alright, haha
[06:50] <bsdunix> was there even such a thing as a pci bus back then?
[06:50] <lord-arhemadan> Got the 72 pin variant on a PCI card.
[06:50] <lord-arhemadan> Believe it or not this is one of the first macs to get PCI :)
[06:52] <bsdunix> i once had similar issue on an old dual pentium pro 400mhz hp netserver. i had an ami megaraid raid 50 in it though...
[06:52] <lord-arhemadan> AMI?
[06:53] <bsdunix> that's now amd
[06:53] <lord-arhemadan> Forgive me, I'm hardly familiar with old PCs, hahaha.
[06:53] <lord-arhemadan> Ohhhh!
[06:53] <bsdunix> american megatrends'
[06:57] <bsdunix> only recently have I been able to use an old favorite keyboard again; a wang pc122 beast. AT connector. kludged-together AT to PS2 into a PS2 to USB adaptor...USB3 now gives enough current to operate it
[06:57] <lord-arhemadan> Oh wow hahaha
[06:58] <andystar> I am wondering if League of Legends works with WINE at this time?
[06:58] <lord-arhemadan> Wow. I can actually expand this thing's RAM to 1GB :)
[06:59] <bsdunix> everyone's always singing praises of the IBMmodel M keyboard. It was a joke compared to that KB
[06:59] <lord-arhemadan> Just need 768MB more haha
[06:59] <bsdunix> andystar just google that very question! wineHQ has your answer
[07:01] <andystar> bsdunix I have been Googling too much lately.  It is a good idea for a search though.
[07:02] <peeawee> libnw.so missing, popcorn time error, any suggestions?
[07:03] <bsdunix> peeawee: kodi? latest build?
[07:03] <andystar> None here, Peaawee.
[07:04] <lord-arhemadan> Good lord, It took 5 minutes just to type my password and close a dialog box ;-;
[07:05] <lord-arhemadan> Now I really can't wait for internet and finally downloading xfce, lmao
[07:07] <alkisg> andystar: it works fine, yes
[07:07] <FireStriker> hi
[07:07] <alkisg> (08:53:06 πμ) bsdunix: that's now amd ==> I think ami and amd are not related at all
[07:07] <FireStriker> i have an acer laptop that im looking to setup a dual boot of win and linux.
[07:08] <bsdunix> lord-arhemadan: just enjoy the cli-only world for a bit. mp3blaster. figlet. cowsay. jive. irssi. robotfindskitten...vi
[07:08] <lord-arhemadan> awww :(
[07:08] <FireStriker> im wonder what ubuntu would work the best the specs are https://www.acer.com/datasheets/2014/4876/E3-111/NX.MNTSA.001.html 2gb of ram
[07:08] <bsdunix> alkisg: ami was bought up by LSI and/or 3ware?
[07:09] <alkisg> FireStriker: any ubuntu will run fine on that
[07:09] <alkisg> bsdunix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Megatrends doesn't mention amd anywhere...
[07:11] <FireStriker> im just wondering which ver will work the best
[07:12] <alkisg> FireStriker: download 16.04
[07:12] <alkisg> ubuntu, ubuntu-mate, whatever looks better to you
[07:12] <andystar> alkisg, Does it have any problems with a single core, AMD 64 type computer?  Are the requirements for running it any different on WINE from regular Windows?
[07:12] <bsdunix> alkisg: thanks. interesting read
[07:12] <alkisg> andystar: I would assume 10% slower, if your graphics drivers are fine. Which cpu and which graphics card?
[07:13] <alkisg> bsdunix: np; you just got me wondering/googling for a while there ;)
[07:19] <andystar> alkisg, It is an Athlon 64, 3500+ processor, running at 2.2 Ghz.  The graphics card shows up as an ATI Radeon 200 Series.  I don't think I was able to ever get kernel support for the graphics card in the past.
[07:20] <alkisg> andystar: sounds slow, I don't know if it'll make it
[07:22] <andystar> alkisg, Is there a way I can scan the kernel updates, and see when they might add support for my graphics card?
[07:24] <alkisg> andystar: I think it's already supported, since years... check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:29] <Komodo> Hello
[07:29] <Komodo> Umbut..o
[07:30] <Komodo> Who games on Ubuntu?
[07:31] <Komodo> And what are your fav games?
[07:31] <FireStriker> i have an acer E 11 Intel Celeron N2830 @ 2.16GHz 2gb, 8gb max. im thinking of installing Ubuntu onto it. im wondering what *ubutnu would suite it best. im looking to upgrade to 4gb.
[07:32] <Komodo> Latest Ubuntu should handle it, what are you using PC for after?
[07:33] <FireStriker> its small. just looking to use it for school win10 is just too slow for it
[07:34] <Komodo> Yeah, you shouldn't have to actually downgrade to a previous version or anything for it to suffice, just go latest version available for your device man
[07:35] <ouroumov> FireStriker, hold on
[07:35] <FireStriker> yea im looking to install the latust im just wondering witch *ubntu
[07:36] <FireStriker> like Ubuntu Lubuntu Xubuntu
[07:36] <Komodo> what's your device?
[07:36] <Komodo> it it a PC or tablet?
[07:36] <anddam> when selecting "Share folder" in nautilus I got the dialog to install samba, that wasn't installed
[07:36] <ouroumov> FireStriker, that's a Bay Trail processor, so be aware of this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109051
[07:36] <FireStriker> pc specs are Intel Celeron N2830 @ 2.16GHz 2GB
[07:37] <anddam> what packages does actually the GUI setup install?
[07:37] <anddam> I ask as I'd like to purge them
[07:38] <FireStriker> whats that bug?
[07:38] <Komodo> Firestriker, you need 32 bit stuff
[07:41] <hateball> FireStriker: you can install a different desktop at a later stage anyhow, if Unity feels too sluggish. No need for a reinstall, just install XFCE and choose that at login time
[07:44] <FireStriker> yep
[07:44] <FireStriker> so i need to get 32bit 64bit doesnt work
[07:45] <Delphin> is there a program that can download pop3 messages in mbox format? I tried getmail but all it does is Mboxrc format :/
[07:45] <adrian_1908> hello, one question. The `openssh-server` package comes with `openssh-client` as a dependency. Is this for when the server is to be used to log into another SSH server, or what might be the idea behind including the client?
[07:46] <ouroumov> FireStriker, random complete system freeze on Intel BayTrail processors.
[07:47] <ducasse> Delphin: fetchmail, perhaps.
[07:49] <anddam> what are the packages providing client samba support?
[07:49] <anddam> does removing "samba" break browsing local samba shares?
[07:49] <ducasse> anddam: it shouldn't, clients normally use the samba libs
[07:51] <ilfabri> Hi all, i have a pair of probs with my 16.04 - When i try to connect to new wireless networks, the network manager never ask me for the key and keep trying to connect. - 2) Blueman doesn't work well, no icon showed even if is set to show it and i can see the adapter correctly recognized. All the buetooth settings interface seem to be slow
[07:52] <anddam> I purged samba and python-samba and now got "no longer required" attr python-ldb python-tdb samba-dsdb-modules samba-vfs-modules tdb-tools
[07:52] <ouroumov> ilfabri, sounds like a driver issue, please provide a pastebin of the output for: inxi -N
[07:53] <FireStriker> does 16.10 fix that bugt?
[07:53] <anddam> I wonder if trying to remove the server I'm breaking something
[07:54] <ouroumov> No FireStriker. This bug is not fixed in any recent Linux release. You can apply the workaround or manually patch your kernel.
[07:54] <ilfabri> http://pastebin.com/LmP19mNs
[07:54] <ilfabri> ouroumov
[07:54] <ducasse> anddam: if that would break something, apt would be wanting to remove them as well
[07:55] <ilfabri> ouroumov: i'm using xubuntu, if it can help
[07:56] <ouroumov> ilfabri, weird, usually Intel Wifi is rock solid. Maybe try and set driver options for power save. I gotta disconnect, stick around for someone else with knowledge of the matter.
[07:56] <FireStriker> the work around is 32 bit right? how hard is it to patch the kernel?
[07:56] <mobi323> Hello all.
[07:58] <anddam> samba and samba-common-bin say "Samba common files used by both the server and the client" but I cannot figure what the actual client package is
[08:00] <anddam> ducasse: point is I don't know if purging "samba" was the proper way in first place to remove the server
[08:00] <anddam> after an autoremove samba-common stayed, but samba-common-bin was removed
[08:00] <anddam> that makes me wonder if samba client would need or not those common binaries
[08:01] <ducasse> anddam: if you want the cli clients, you might need them. if you only want clients who link against the libs you should be fine.
[08:02] <ducasse> anddam: apt-file can tell you what files are in which package, also dpkg -L for installed packages
[08:05] <ItsMeLenny> question, how do i get my software into ubutuntus software installer or synaptic database
[08:06] <ducasse> ItsMeLenny: either submit it to the debian repos so i gets synced on the next release, or ask/become a motu member.
[08:07] <andystar> alkisg I read through the document that you linked to.  It looks like my Radeon XPRESS 200 Series should be supported.  I first tried to get it to work with Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, and it didn't work back then.
[08:08] <mobi323> Hello all.
[08:08] <mcphail> ItsMeLenny: if you can package your software as a Snap you can upload directly to the snap store
[08:09] <andystar> alkisg, I tried it with AMD Catalyst at that time, but it didn't work.  The document you linked to says that AMD Catalyst doesn't work with some of the old Radeon cards.
[08:10] <Mr_Cyclops> !snap
[08:10] <bazhang> the channel is #snappy
[08:10] <andystar> alkisg, I will have to look and see if there is some old copy of AMD Catalyst on my computer, that might interfere with the Radeon driver that comes with Linux.
[08:12] <andystar> mobi323 Hi.
[08:13] <ItsMeLenny> ducasse and mcphail, thanks very much, i will look into both of those
[08:14] <ItsMeLenny> mcphail, what is the official snapstore site?
[08:15] <Roshan> Hello guys. should I have the steps to install mail server on ubuntu server
[08:16] <anddam> ducasse: I'd just like to be able to browse samba shares from Nautilus (or whatever the Files application actual name is)
[08:17] <andystar> komodo, I like to game sometimes on Ubuntu.  I like TripleA, because it is simple.
[08:17] <ducasse> anddam: afaik, only the libs are required for that. look at the nautilus dependencies.
[08:17] <anddam> ducasse: I'm saying that I installed missing samba server by choosing Local Network Share in the contextual menu from a folder, and then trying to remove just that added component I may have broken it
[08:18] <anddam> ducasse: I see what you said, if removing one of those would have broken nautilus dependencies then nautilus itself would have been listed in the purge action targets
[08:18] <anddam> but what if the samba stuff were just a suggested package?
[08:19] <Sylhouet1e> Hello all, I have installed proftpd on 16.04 . But I can not start it. /etc/init.d/proftpd start not working , service proftpd start not working , systemctl start proftpd.service  not working. And then suddenly one of these commands will start it and it runs .
[08:19] <ducasse> anddam: nautilus uses gvfs-backends, which depends on libsmbclient and suggests samba-common, so i think you just need to test.
[08:19] <Sylhouet1e> Waht can I do to make proftpd start
[08:20] <akik> Sylhouet1e: you suddenly ran the correct command to start it (systemctl)
[08:20] <akik> Sylhouet1e: ubuntu moved to systemd in 15.04
[08:20] <Sylhouet1e> No now it has stopped, and I can not start it. systemctl start proftpd.service also fails. then I start over and suddenly it starts.
[08:21] <Sylhouet1e> /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[08:21] <Sylhouet1e> [ ok ] Starting proftpd (via systemctl): proftpd.service.
[08:21] <ducasse> Sylhouet1e: look at /etc/default/proftpd - you might need to enable it there.
[08:21] <Sylhouet1e> bu no proftpd. There are more services that are hard to start and run.
[08:22] <Sylhouet1e> Run="YES"
[08:22] <jonksar> Anyone has any idea on how to create a new window using tmuxinator into a running tmux session?
[08:23] <ducasse> Sylhouet1e: try 'systemctl enable proftpd.service'
[08:23] <akik> Sylhouet1e: run "journalctl -xe" to see what the problem could be
[08:25] <Sylhouet1e> akik: It tels me it has started proftpd ???
[08:25] <Sylhouet1e> Feb 20 09:23:20 shared10 systemd[1]: Started LSB: Starts ProFTPD daemon.
[08:25] <Sylhouet1e> -- Subject: Unit proftpd.service has finished start-up
[08:25] <Sylhouet1e> -- Defined-By: systemd
[08:25] <Sylhouet1e> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
[08:25] <Sylhouet1e> --
[08:25] <Sylhouet1e> -- Unit proftpd.service has finished starting up.
[08:26] <akik> Sylhouet1e: check if your iptables rules prohibit access to it
[08:27] <akik> Sylhouet1e: and use pastebin.com for the multiline pastes
[08:28] <mobi323> Where is everybody from?
[08:28] <akik> mobi323: this is a global channel
[08:29] <devnull84> south africa o/
[08:29] <ducasse> mobi323: do you want 1800+ replies?
[08:29] <mobi323> I'm from Australia.
[08:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat please mobi323
[08:30] <mobi323> Sorry I'm breathing!!
[08:31] <Sylhouet1e> Sorry for the multiple lines.
[08:32] <Sylhouet1e> Proftpd is not running at all. Is it me or is the systemd integration not completely ready for prime time.
[08:33] <akik> Sylhouet1e: the journalctl says that it starts but you can't see it's process in the process tree?
[08:34] <Sylhouet1e> ps aux | grep pro  shows me process phpfpm, and the pas aux command  nothing more. So there is no proftpd process.
[08:34] <mobi323> Where do I read the Chanel Topic?
[08:35] <ducasse> mobi323: /topic
[08:35] <akik> Sylhouet1e: ok we can try starting it manually
[08:36] <Sylhouet1e> Let's try that indeed.
[08:37] <akik> Sylhouet1e: "systemctl stop proftpd" and then "/usr/sbin/proftpd -n -c /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf"
[08:37] <CrazyTux> hello, can we install Cinnamon DE on Ubuntu?
[08:37] <akik> Sylhouet1e: that'll leave it running in your shell. oh sorry use sudo in front of /usr/sbin/proftpd
[08:41] <mobi323> ping
[08:41] <mobi323> Ping
[08:41] <webmobi> .
[08:42] <Sylhouet1e> akik: that starts proftp and it runs now.
[08:42] <Sylhouet1e> /usr/sbin/proftpd -n -c /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf & gave me back my prompt. It is running now.
[08:43] <akik> Sylhouet1e: -n means no-daemon so it doesn't go into background automatically
[08:43] <akik> Sylhouet1e: that is just a temporary solution for you, though
[08:43] <akik> Sylhouet1e: maybe try reinstalling the package
[08:45] <akik> Sylhouet1e: sudo apt-get install --reinstall proftpd
[08:50] <Guest68914> hello
[08:51] <Guest68914> how r u
[08:52] <rahmonali> hi
[08:53] <Sylhouet1e> akik: A reinstall fixed it. Strange!! Thank you very much for your time an support.
[08:53] <akik> Sylhouet1e: nice!
[09:05] <Guest35239> Hello
[09:18] <phoneiscool> Am I able to as a web server question here?
[09:18] <phoneiscool> related to nginx on a ubuntu server
[09:20] <FireStriker> hi im looking to install linux onto my acer laptop. its specs are Intel Celeron N2830 @ 2.41GHz with 2gb of ram going to be upgraded to 4gb soon
[09:20] <FireStriker> whats the best *ubunt to install
[09:20] <FireStriker> this is the spec sheat https://www.acer.com/datasheets/2014/4876/E3-111/NX.MNTSA.001.html
[09:28] <cappe> I get a snap error when trying to install RocketChat. It complaints about...
[09:28] <cappe> cannot communicate with server: Get http://localhost/v2/snaps: dial unix /run/snapd-snap.socket: connect: no such file or directory
[09:29] <cappe> I've tried googling this, and I cannot find a fix for it
[09:29] <cappe> ideas?
[09:45] <alwyn> Hi, how can I check if I have any packages installed from restricted, universe or multiverse?
[09:46] <FireStriker> hi im looking to install linux onto my acer laptop. its specs are Intel Celeron N2830 @ 2.41GHz with 2gb of ram going to be upgraded to 4gb soon
[09:46] <FireStriker> whats the best *ubunt to install
[09:46] <B105PH3RE> 16.04 LTS as for flavor I leave up to you
[09:47] <FireStriker> are there no bugs with the cpu?
[09:47] <ObrienDave> shouldn't be. ymmv
[09:47] <B105PH3RE> not that I aware of
[09:48] <B105PH3RE> also bugs don't tend to last very long
[09:48] <FireStriker> apartly the cpu causes crashes
[09:48] <FireStriker> random crashes
[09:48] <FireStriker> im wanting that to come from more then i guy
[09:48] <B105PH3RE> on ubuntu first time I've heard of that
[09:48] <ducasse> FireStriker: not that i can find with a quick search
[09:49] <ObrienDave> this isn't windows ;P
[09:49] <ppf> how do i view journal entries for a systemd user unit?
[09:49] <ppf> journalctl --user says "No journal files were found"
[09:49] <FireStriker> bay trail ?
[09:49] <B105PH3RE> most crashes aren't related to hardware as most related incorrect modules/dirvers/packages installed and configured incorrectly
[09:50] <ducasse> ppf: journalctl -u nameof.service
[09:51] <ducasse> ppf: user unit, sorry: --user-unit i think
[09:51] <ppf> tried that. same response as above
[09:51] <FireStriker> looking up bay trail linux i find some stufy about crashes
[09:51] <ppf> do i have to enable journalling for user units?
[09:51] <ducasse> ppf: have you enabled persistent logging?
[09:52] <ppf> ducasse: no
[09:54] <ducasse> ppf: maybe you need to, --user-unit works fine here
[09:54] <JFox762> So I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu onto my main PC as a dualboot..... If Ubuntu is installed on a partition, will anything I do on Ubuntu side have any affect on the Windows partition?
[09:54] <JFox762> In other words, since I am new to Linux... and I want to play around with it...
[09:55] <JFox762> If I screw something up with Ubuntu... will it possibly brick my entire PC?
[09:55] <alkisg> As long as you don't do something wrong while partitioning (e.g. delete windows partition), then no, it shouldn't affect windowss
[09:55] <ppf> ducasse: persistent is only relevant if i want to keep journals around after reboot, and for splitting journal files
[09:55] <gbellinoz> FireStriker: Stick with 'major brands'.  Mint, Debian, Ubuntu...  http://distrowatch.com/
[09:56] <JFox762> Just an FYI, I am currently on a linux laptop (Acer C720, running GalliumOS )
[09:56] <alwyn> JFox762: you have to screw up _really_ bad then. I mean even if you know what you're doing and want to purposefully screw up your laptop it's hard to do :P
[09:56] <gbellinoz> You don't want to be alternative alternative :)
[09:56] <JFox762> Ok cool...
[09:57] <JFox762> Would it be wise to get a 2nd Hard drive for Linux?
[09:57] <JFox762> would it still need partitioning?
[09:57] <ducasse> ppf: the user journal seems to be split into separate files here.
[09:57] <alkisg> Yes, new drives need to be partitioned to get an OS. It would be a little safer since you wouldn't modify your windows drive.
[09:58] <FireStriker> is mint any good?
[09:58] <gbellinoz> JFox762 - for the first time in 20 years, Windows blew away my Linux partition on an install.
[09:58] <JFox762> im really enjoying linux so far on this Chromebook running GalliumOS
[09:58] <gbellinoz> Windows now has its own HD.  >:|
[09:58] <FireStriker> will mint work with bay trail ?
[09:58] <FireStriker> im thinking of makeing a dual boot on this laptop
[09:59] <ppf> ducasse: yes if you enable that in journald.conf
[09:59] <gbellinoz> and my Linux drive was UNPLUGGED when I installed stupid Win10.
[09:59] <JFox762> but, the laptop isn't super powerful... and it would be nice to see what Linux is capable of on my high end desktop
[09:59] <ducasse> ppf: i haven't enabled anything except persistent logging
[10:00] <JFox762> BRB have to go do a round real quick
[10:00] <ppf> ducasse: yes, SplitMode defaults to uid, but only applies forpersistent logging
[10:01] <ducasse> ppf: in that case i don't know, maybe that service hasn't logged anything yet
[10:08] <JFox762> back
[10:11] <rahmonali> hi
[10:11] <rahmonali> can anybody help me?
[10:11] <alwyn> !ask
[10:11] <ychenik> дебилы
[10:12] <rahmonali> i cant install archon runtime on google chrome
[10:12] <rahmonali> i installed but it didnt work
[10:13] <rahmonali> how can i run apk files on ubuntu?
[10:13] <ObrienDave> you can't
[10:13] <rahmonali> why?
[10:13] <ObrienDave> ubuntu is not android
[10:14] <rahmonali> i read articles from internet
[10:14] <alwyn> ObrienDave: that's why he's trying to install ARChon.
[10:14] <ObrienDave> ok, well, glwt
[10:14] <ikevin> rahmonali, it's to install an android app or debug an android app?
[10:14] <rahmonali> install and rup apk
[10:15] <rahmonali> run apk
[10:15] <ikevin> ok
[10:15] <rahmonali> who knows the solution?
[10:17] <JFox762> !patience
[10:17] <rahmonali> http://www.tricksuniversity.in/run-android-on-ubuntu-chrome-trick.html
[10:17] <rahmonali> this is link which i have used
[10:17] <alwyn> rahmonali: you say you were able to install archon runtime, but "it didn't work", what exactly didn't work?
[10:18] <ikevin> rahmonali, have you tryed that: http://www.andyroid.net/
[10:18] <rahmonali> When i try to open arc welder on my google chrome, it didnt work
[10:18] <rahmonali> Do you know arc welder
[10:19] <rahmonali> ikevin, no
[10:20] <JFox762> darn.... got dc'ed
[10:23] <sdfgsdfg> hi my usb mouse is suddenly not recognied not even powered from usb. lsusb doesnt show it no mo. The mouse works on another device.. I see the mouse blink when i plug it on then powers off... ideas???
[10:23] <ObrienDave> swap ports
[10:23] <sdfgsdfg> there are 4 of them with same behavior
[10:24] <sdfgsdfg> hw issue right ?
[10:24] <alkisg> Run `udevadm monitor`, then plug the device, and see if you get any events at all
[10:25] <sdfgsdfg> nothing
[10:26] <tdm4> Hi.. got an upstart question. I have a one-time task I want to run at boot time before nginx starts.. so one was made: 'start on (net-device up and starting nginx)' and second line: task ... but.. when it has run and I need to restart nginx .. upstart hangs. Is there a way to tell upstart: "Hey this only runs once don't try running it again even if the service it starts on needs to restart"?
[10:28] <sdfgsdfg> i missed if u said anything i was off any solutions ? hw issue right? right
[10:30] <gbellinoz> sdfgsdfg: I always like booting into another OS on the same h/w and testing again.
[10:35] <ObrienDave> that would be the most reasonable test to do
[10:39] <gab_> Hi
[10:40] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24033081/ - x11vnc wont install. is there any package of x11vnc to download manually?
[10:41] <gab_> I'm working at a powerful library to simplify linux commands. Gabux: https://www.github.com/derogab/gabux
[10:43] <popey> gab_: that looks somewhat dangerous
[10:43] <bazhang> IamTrying, is that saucy
[10:43] <gab_> it is open source
[10:43] <bazhang> 13.10?
[10:43] <gab_> all linux distro working using apt
[10:44] <IamTrying> bazhang: 3.11.0-12-generic
[10:44] <ikevin> gab_, not sure if it simplify anything
[10:44] <rahmonali> hi all
[10:44] <bazhang> the version is 13.10?
[10:44] <gab_> it is a beta version
[10:45] <bazhang> IamTrying, 13.10 is several years ago end of life
[10:47] <IamTrying> bazhang: i know. but that client is crippy, ugly, he wont pay me a single penny to support him for his machine, i am for free contributing to him by checking his system. he cant pay so i need a quick fix with exact OS. there are tons of reason i cant just upgrade for him, he is ugly, fat, and cheap.
[10:48] <bazhang> IamTrying, it is simply not supported here
[10:48] <bazhang> IamTrying, if you wish for support here then upgrade to a support version
[10:49] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | IamTrying
[10:51] <alwyn> Hi, I just upgraded a machine from 14.04 to 16.04 but it still runs an older kernel. 3.13.0-95 and 3.13.0-108 are both installed but not present in /boot thus not recognized or used. How can I install/upgrade my kernel properly?
[10:52] <ikevin> alwyn, check package linux-image-generic
[10:52] <kaynemo> Hello, please help! Just updated kernel (I guess) and after reboot no more ethernet
[10:52] <kaynemo> kaynemo
[10:52] <kaynemo> this is sysmctl output: Process: 1488 ExecStart=/sbin/ifup -a --read-environment 9code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
[10:52] <kaynemo> kaynemo
[10:52] <kaynemo> systemd[1]: Failed to start Raise network interfaces
[10:52] <kaynemo> kaynemo
[10:52] <alwyn> !paste
[10:53] <alwyn> ikevin: that is installed, and the latest kernel package is installed as well
[10:53] <kaynemo> after kernel update my network will not come up
[10:53] <kaynemo> seems
[10:54] <kaynemo> like the kernel will not load a eth module
[10:54] <ikevin> kaynemo, does ifconfig show you a network interface?
[10:54] <kaynemo> and I cant seem to rollback to the previous kernel
[10:54] <alkisg> alwyn: what's the output of: dpkg -S /boot; sudo parted -l
[10:54] <kaynemo> nope
[10:54] <kaynemo> just lo
[10:54] <ikevin> alwyn, have you tryed things like: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[10:55] <alwyn> ikevin: yes, that doesn't change anything unfortunately.
[10:55] <kaynemo> also I am running ubuntu 16.04 on powerpc
[10:55] <kaynemo> kernel 62 was fine, upgraded to 63 this morning and network is down
[10:55] <alkisg> kaynemo: select the previous kernel from the grub menu, does that fix the network?
[10:55] <simsalabim> Guys, how do I get to Subgraph OS channel, as mentioned here: https://www.reddit.com//r/Monero/comments/5v1gpy/building_using_the_monero_core_gui_wallet_in/ ?
[10:56] <kaynemo> i do not have grub, only yaboot
[10:56] <alkisg> OK select it from yaboot then
[10:56] <ikevin> kaynemo, you can boot to older kernel from advanced boot option
[10:56] <kaynemo> how do I do that?
[10:56] <kaynemo> I am in terminal
[10:58] <ikevin> kaynemo, reboot and press escape to get grub menu
[10:59] <kaynemo> ikevin - that will not work - no grub, only yaboot
[11:02] <kaynemo> is there any way to force the system to boot from previous kernel via apt-get? or dpkg?
[11:04] <EriC^^> kaynemo: look into "grub-reboot"
[11:05] <kaynemo> guys, the system runs on powerpc, so there is no grub (maybe i should have installed it), but at the moment it boots from yaboot
[11:07]  * Lyrics is listening to "Good Riddance" by Green Day
[11:07] <Lyrics> Commencing lyrics flood....
[11:08] <niko> Lyrics: i suggest to not
[11:08] <Speiros> Bye Lyrics then...(anticipates a boot...looks to see what kind of boot it is...snakeskin leather?  Vinyl?)
[11:08] <Syzygy> Hey, I'm trying to get a win10/ubuntu dualboot running. But since I failed twice (1. destroyed my bootloader, 2. linux installed itself exclusively without giving me options), I guess I should ask for help first.
[11:08] <Lyrics> niko why not?
[11:09] <EriC^^> Syzygy: where are you booted from now?
[11:09] <Syzygy> So I have windows 10 installed, and a boot stick with the ubuntu version I want.
[11:09] <Lyrics> Another turning point, a fork stuck in the road
[11:09] <Syzygy> I'm in windows 10
[11:09] <Lyrics> Time grabs you by the wrist, directs you where to go
[11:09] <Lyrics> So make the best of this test, and don't ask why
[11:09] <Lyrics> It's not a question, but a lesson learned in time
[11:09] <EriC^^> Syzygy: shrink some of the space in windows for ubuntu
[11:09] <Lyrics> It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right
[11:09] <Lyrics> I hope you had the time of your life
[11:09] <EriC^^> !ops | Lyrics
[11:09] <Syzygy> alright, give me a second
[11:09] <zen> Even better than a boot
[11:10] <Speiros> What did ops do?
[11:11] <Syzygy> EriC^^: I now have 76GB of unallocated space.
[11:11] <Syzygy> Actually, let's cut 10gb for a shared partition.
[11:12] <EriC^^> Syzygy: ok disable fast boot in windows 10 after that
[11:13] <Syzygy> EriC^^: done.
[11:14] <EriC^^> Syzygy: ok, did you notice a small fat32 partition at the start?
[11:14] <EriC^^> it might be called esp or efi partition
[11:15] <Syzygy> I guess it's called System, 100mb, not labled with anything efi or uefi related.
[11:15] <EriC^^> Syzygy: no, that's not it
[11:15] <EriC^^> Syzygy: i guess you're using legacy and not uefi then
[11:16] <Syzygy> I disabled uefi in bios since I tried to install ubuntu the first time.
[11:16] <EriC^^> Syzygy: boot the ubuntu live usb in legacy mode and in the installer let it install Alongside windows
[11:16] <seeit> howdy, I'm having trouble editing my hosts file, I put an entry for 127.0.0.1    facebook.com but the 'host' and browser still pull the address from the dns server
[11:17] <Syzygy> I tried that last time, but it didn't give me options and installed ubuntu over everything.
[11:17] <lerner> I just used nano for the first time. Is 'write out' saving?
[11:17] <Syzygy> EriC^^: Do I leave the space for ubuntu unallocated?
[11:17] <EriC^^> Syzygy: you might have chosen "reinstall ubuntu"
[11:18] <EriC^^> Syzygy: yeah, if you choose Alongside windows you should be good
[11:18] <seeit> lerner: yes that writes to the file "saving" it
[11:18] <lerner> seeit, is that british english? I never read 'write out' before
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:18] <Speiros> Hi BluesKaj:)
[11:19] <kaynemo> ok, trying to run a previous kernel gives me kernel panic
[11:19] <Syzygy> alright, I'll be back.
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hi Speiros
[11:19] <seeit> lerner pretty sure its a hold over from c programming where you 'write out' to a file
[11:19] <kaynemo> so, perhaps it is easier to force new kernel to load the eth module ?
[11:19] <k1l_> lerner: ctrl+o is saving
[11:20] <lerner> is there any difference between saving and writting out k1l_ ?
[11:21] <k1l_> lerner: no
[11:23] <kaynemo> nope, take that back - I did manage to boot from previous image and the network is up
[11:23] <kaynemo> should I just forget about the new kernel altogether?
[11:29] <seeit> anyone able to help me with the hosts file? I'm making an entry and ping recognizes that entry but firefox and 'host' do not
[11:35] <lerner> how do I configure /join #xubuntu
[11:35] <lerner> aargh
[11:36] <BluesKaj> seeit, it you change the Host name , it has to be changed in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[11:36] <seeit> oh
[11:36] <seeit> not changing the hostname
[11:36] <seeit> changing 1 host, facebook.com to 127.0.0.1
[11:37] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:37] <seeit> i put an entry '127.0.0.1    facebook.com'
[11:37] <seeit> ping recognizes that entry but host and my browser do not
[11:37] <seeit> the 'host' command
[11:38] <BluesKaj> not sure , but I think a logout /login is needed
[11:38] <seeit> i rebooted and it didn't work, i'll try again
[11:39] <seeit> blueskaj well the browser directs to 127.0.0.1 now but 'host' command doesn't still
[11:39] <seeit> wonder what's going on with that command
[11:40] <BluesKaj> seeit, i don't know, all I ever edited was the hostname
[11:41] <zen> seeit: host ignores the hostsfile
[11:42] <BluesKaj> err host name
[11:43] <Syzygy> EriC^^: seems like it's working. thanks
[11:44] <EriC^^> Syzygy: great, no problem
[11:45] <Syzygy> did pretty much the same thing last time, but it formatted the whole drive ;/
[11:45] <Syzygy> i'm sure i selected install alongside windows as well, although i think i did allocate the remaining space last time.
[11:59] <lerner> how do I configure xubuntu not to see the splash screen, but the processes being loaded?
[12:01] <k1l_> remove quiet and splash from the grub kernel line
[12:02] <tryhg> hello
[12:03] <tryhg> is there a way to migrate from Trisquel to Ubuntu? I know it can be done from Ubuntu to Trisquel.
[12:11] <Syzygy> EriC^^, would you recommend turning UEFI back on? Can this interfere with my dualboot settings?
[12:11] <EriC^^> Syzygy: it's almost the same, uefi is only slightly faster to boot (1sec)
[12:12] <Syzygy> ok.
[12:13] <lerner> how do I write spanish question marks and exclamations on an american keyboard?
[12:15] <Syzygy> lerner, you might have to select the US International keyboard layout and then do ctrl alt questionmark.
[12:20] <Ben__> hello
[12:20] <Ben__> looking for some help setting up users
[12:21] <Ben__> anyone able to help me set up users?
[12:21] <k1l_> i dont know if i can help when i dont know the issue :)
[12:22] <dumle29> Hey guys
[12:22] <dumle29> I'm having a ton of problems with my bluetooth speaker
[12:22] <dumle29> it seems to be an issue with pulseaudio
[12:22] <lerner> us with euro on 5 is also an international keyboard, is that right?
[12:23] <dumle29> It was working (after loading a the bluetooth discover module) but after having my laptop in airplane mode, and back out of airplane mode, I can't connect to the speaker anymore
[12:24] <Caz> Hi there
[12:25] <Caz> I just installed ubuntu server and set the wrong language during install. I tried to change the lang using dpkg-reconfigure, it's almost all set correctly but when I log-in I've still updates messages that are in wrong language... locale command display the correct language too. Do you have an idea?
[12:26] <Caz> I have this : 0 paquet peut Ãªtre mis Ã  jour.
[12:26] <Caz> And I would like this message in eng
[12:27] <zen> Caz, http://askubuntu.com/questions/380746/changing-ubuntu-servers-language-to-english
[12:29] <Caz> Oh I found that too
[12:29] <Caz> ATM
[12:29] <Caz> Thanks zen
[12:30] <zen> From what I gather, apts laungage strings come from the laungauge packs, add the new pack and remove the old one, set the system language to the new one and apt should just pick it up
[12:31] <Caz> I uninstalled the previous language packs
[12:31] <Caz> That's my issue
[12:40] <AgriMax> Hey everyone
[12:42] <AgriMax> Somebody could help me with a silverlight issue please ?
[12:43] <hateball> !ask
[12:43] <AgriMax> Ok ubottu :)
[12:45] <AgriMax> Despite the fact I enabled silverlight through pipelight on ubuntu 16.04, I still have an issue to run an app on firefox.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> AgriMax, trying to watch netflix on ubuntu, use chrome-browser
[12:46] <AgriMax> BluesKaj: It's not to watch netflix, but I'll try with chrome browser
[12:47] <jarlath1> lsusb lists my midi device, but I don't see it in QJackCtl to use it in Ardour. Can anyone guide me? The software midi keyboard does work with Ardour so I know I'm close.
[12:47] <dhanvi-mrcooper> what is the shortcut for switching the windows of the same application ? how do I edit it ? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26546/can-you-switch-between-windows-within-an-application-in-openbox I want to set alt and ` (key above tab) as the shortcut, how can I do it ?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> AgriMax, then why silverlight ?
[12:48] <AgriMax> BluesKaj: it's an app to do my accounting, it asks me to install silverlight
[12:49] <AgriMax> I had this issue before, and installing pipelight helped to solve it, but since I upgraded to 16.04 it doesn't work anymore
[12:50] <ioria> AgriMax, from ppa ?
[12:50] <AgriMax> ioria: what? ^^
[12:50] <ioria> AgriMax,  how did you install pipelight ?
[12:51] <AgriMax> ioria: I installed it from ppa following ubuntu's official website instructions
[12:51] <AgriMax> And I enabled silverlight too
[12:51] <an_user> Hi
[12:51] <AgriMax> But firefox doesn't add it to the plugins list
[12:52] <AgriMax> And obviously, my app still asks me to install silverlight
[12:52] <ioria> AgriMax,  did you run pipelight-plugin --create-mozilla-plugins etc. etc ?
[12:52] <AgriMax> I did, ioria, but I still can see it
[12:52] <ioria> AgriMax,  did you install the ppa after the upgrade to xenial or before ?
[12:53] <AgriMax> after, but maybe it kept traces of the previous installation ? How can I clean it ?
[12:53] <an_user> I'm using KUbuntu 16.04, and there is a process works always called 'mysqld' it takes 150 MB of RAM , What this process does ?
[12:54] <ioria> !info ppa-purge | AgriMax
[12:54] <zen> an_user: its the MySQL database
[12:54] <AgriMax> ioria: is that a package I need to install ?
[12:54] <zen> an_user: some program(s) is storing its data in it most likely
[12:54] <ioria> AgriMax,  yes
[12:55] <AgriMax> I'll do that
[12:55] <ioria> AgriMax,  do you still have  the link to the tutorial you followed ?
[12:55] <AgriMax> Yes
[12:56] <AgriMax> ioria: https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/pipelight
[12:56] <an_user> zen But I did not install Mysql database.
[12:56] <AgriMax> it seems ppa-purge is already installed on my system
[12:57] <zen> an_user: another program can state it requires it and it will be installed for you
[12:57] <an_user> Thank you so much .
[12:57] <zen> Its very likely its included as part of the bast install of Kubuntu
[12:58] <AgriMax> ioria: what can I do with ppa-purge ?
[12:59] <ioria> AgriMax,  purge that ppa and reinstall maybe
[12:59] <AgriMax> ok ioria
[13:00] <ioria> AgriMax,   i see that xenial is supported  https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[13:00] <dhanvi-mrcooper> what is the key bindings of alt + ` for shortcut in lxde
[13:01] <AgriMax> ioria: I see wine-staging needed to be updated, it's updating now
[13:03] <ioria> AgriMax,   then  sudo apt update and  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends pipelight pipelight-multi
[13:09] <AgriMax> ioria: it seems pipelight needs wine-compholio, and it's not installed, but when I try to install it through synaptic it asks to install wine-staging that is already installed...
[13:11] <ioria> !info wine-compholio xenial
[13:11] <ioria> AgriMax,   i don't think that pkg it's in repos
[13:12] <ioria> AgriMax,   it should be installed via that ppa ...
[13:12] <AgriMax> Ok ioria
[13:13] <dhanvi-mrcooper> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26546/can-you-switch-between-windows-within-an-application-in-openbox how to set alt + ` for the same shortcut ?
[13:13] <ioria> AgriMax,   see ?  https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[13:14] <AgriMax> I see ioria
[13:16] <AgriMax> I need to restart my computer, I come back, ioria
[13:16] <ioria> ok
[13:19] <tarball> hello everyone, how can I check the IMC of my CPU via command line?
[13:19] <yomoon> hello
[13:20] <yomoon> anybody here?
[13:20] <ikonia> many people
[13:20] <AgriMax> ioria: back
[13:20] <yomoon> ikonia: oh hello ikonia :)
[13:21] <ioria> AgriMax,   did you  install --install-recommends pipelight pipelight-multi ?
[13:21] <taalas> Hi! I have updated a couple of Ubuntu 16.04 Hyper-V guests and ever since the update my system logs get flooded with "hv_utils: Using TimeSync version 4.0". While this is happening the CPU sits at 100% with systemd-udevd. Any ideas what might be happening?
[13:21] <AgriMax> not yet ioria i needed to restart after the purge
[13:21] <ioria> AgriMax,   so you need to add again the ppa ...
[13:22] <AgriMax> yes
[13:22] <AgriMax> it's done ^^
[13:22] <ioria> AgriMax,   sudo apt update
[13:24] <AgriMax> ioria: done, I'm installing pipelight now
[13:24] <ioria> AgriMax,   ok,  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends pipelight pipelight-multi
[13:25] <robi> hi
[13:25] <tarball> hello everyone, how can I check the IMC of my CPU via command line?
[13:25] <robi> how are you?
[13:27] <Xundres> hi, can I hide a folder without altering his path?
[13:28] <ikevin> Xundres, no
[13:28] <Xundres> no way?
[13:28] <AgriMax> ioria: it seems it installed silverlight...
[13:28] <ikonia> Xundres: what are you actually trying to achieve ?
[13:29] <ikevin> Xundres, hidding file/folder in linux mean adding a . in the start of the name
[13:29] <ioria> AgriMax,   close all the browsers and tun  sudo pipelight-plugin --update
[13:29] <ioria> *run
[13:29] <Xundres> I do'nt like having folders in home
[13:29] <ikonia> Xundres: then don't have the in home
[13:29] <ikonia> move them where you like the
[13:29] <ikonia> them
[13:29] <AgriMax> ioria: done
[13:29] <ioria> AgriMax,   sudo pipelight-plugin --create-mozilla-plugins
[13:29] <Xundres> but if I move them the program create them again
[13:30] <Xundres> or no?
[13:30] <ikonia> Xundres: what program ?
[13:30] <Xundres> jimbodicamviewer
[13:30] <AgriMax> ioria: done
[13:30] <ikonia> Xundres: I have no idea what that program is, so I can't comment for sure, but normally programs will either run from the current working directory or have a parameter you can set
[13:30] <ioria> AgriMax,   in ff  about:addons     and see if you have the  plugin
[13:31] <AgriMax> ioria: nope. But I had a pop-up : running silverlight installer
[13:31] <Xundres> yea I tried to find that parameter but I didn't find it
[13:31] <ikevin> Xundres, and some time, you can do things like "HOME=/what/you/want <your program>"
[13:31] <zen> Xundres: google doesn't even find anything regarding that software O.o
[13:32] <Xundres> sorry it was wrong
[13:32] <ioria> AgriMax,   go here and test   http://bubblemark.com/silverlight2.html
[13:32] <Xundres> jimbodicomviewer
[13:32] <AgriMax> Nope ioria I have a "install MS silverlight" message
[13:33] <ioria> AgriMax,   sudo pipelight-plugin --enable silverlight
[13:33] <AgriMax> ioria: done
[13:33] <ioria> AgriMax,      http://bubblemark.com/silverlight2.html   again
[13:33] <AgriMax> ioria: still no balls
[13:34] <ioria> AgriMax,  check again your enabled plugins
[13:36] <AgriMax> ioria: still not in enabled plugins, but I found the solution : --enable silverlight use to enable silverlight5.1, and I saw pipelight also can enable silverlight 5.0, I chose this version and now my app works
[13:37] <ioria> AgriMax,  good
[13:37] <AgriMax> btw, I now see silverlight in enabled plugins...
[13:37] <AgriMax> Thanks a lot for your help, ioria
[13:37] <ioria> AgriMax,  very good , you're welcome
[13:37] <AgriMax> Have a nice day, I now have work to do :p
[13:38] <ioria> ok
[13:38] <ioria> you too
[13:50] <gabru> help! I want to load python script after startup
[13:50] <ikonia> ok ?
[13:52] <ikevin> gabru, what do you mean by "after startup"? when user login?
[13:52] <gabru> ikevin: yes . this script load data from web server and show notification
[13:54] <yomoon> :)
[13:55] <ikevin> gabru, you have a startup tool for that
[13:55] <yomoon> hi jimsio
[13:55] <yomoon> cloee
[13:55] <gabru> ikevin which one ? can you please mention.
[13:55] <ikevin> gabru, just open your app menu and search "startup", you will find it
[13:56] <ikevin> gabru, i'm not currently under ubuntu, so i can't give you the name of the tool
[13:57] <gabru> ikevin : thanks bro Its so easy i forget this menu.I just try to put it inside /etc/init
[13:57] <ikonia> nor should it be used that way
[13:57] <ikonia>  /etc/init will not work
[13:58] <ikevin> ikonia, he's too speed to leave, don't have the time to explain why /etc/init don't work
[13:58] <pawanix> ayo
[13:59] <_Sym_> Can someone tell me if I should enable Intel Resource Director Technology Allocation support for my Skylake?
[13:59] <_Sym_> I'm not sure what that is in the new 3.10 kernel
[13:59] <_Sym_> err 4.10
[14:00] <razer_> Hi, I've tried installing Ubuntu on my mid-2010 iMac a few times over the years and the installer always crashes/hangs on the last step when I click "continue" on the "who are you page". Does anyone know what causes this?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !mac | razer_
[14:01] <ikevin> razer_, check in dmesg or find a file like "installer.log"
[14:01] <ikevin> iirc, it's on /var/log
[14:04] <bacon123> Has anyone tried a persistent usb with casper-rw on it's own partition? It's pretty cool.
[14:05] <razer_> Ubuntu comes with the latest open Source ATI drivers installed by default right?
[14:06] <runa> hey :) I've a 2 machines in containers (lxc) that end up in `runlevel: unknown`. if I run `telinit 2` everything continues as expected. how can I debug this?
[14:06] <hateball> razer_: it's in the kernel, so yes
[14:06] <razer_> hateball: Ok, good.
[14:08] <dagere891> Hi, I'm having an issue with ubuntu 16.04/16.10 and sound/graphics on rx 480: In 16.04 with propertiery driver, sound works, and in 16.10 graphics work, but I can't get both working
[14:08] <dagere891> I already tried changing the kernel to 4.9 and 4.10, details are here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/839704/sound-via-hdmi-on-rx-480-not-working-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-10
[14:08] <dagere891> Has anyone maybe an solution to this problem?
[14:09] <razer_> I wonder if making a specific Ubuntu ISO for Macintosh computers might be helpful.
[14:09] <ikevin> dagere891, in 16.10, have you check if it's not a pulse configuration problem?
[14:09] <dagere891> ikevin: yes, I've made most of the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure things
[14:09] <razer_> I've found a specific Macintosh ISO for Debian install, but ironically that is the only ISO that won't boot on my Macintosh.
[14:10] <dagere891> ikevin: Sound is also working if I use the output of the sound card, but not via hdmi
[14:10] <ikevin> dagere891, in sound applet, have you tryed to switch to hdmi output?
[14:11] <dagere891> ikevin: yes, switched both ways
[14:12] <ikevin> dagere891, just to try, start playing audio, unplug hdmi and plug it again
[14:14] <dagere891> ok, I'm currently in ubuntu 16.04 and experiencieng the slow-graphic-problem, I'll reboot and try this
[14:16] <taalas> I have updated a couple of Ubuntu 16.04 Hyper-V guests and ever since the update my system logs get flooded with "hv_utils: Using TimeSync version 4.0". While this is happening the CPU sits at 100% with systemd-udevd. Any ideas what might be happening?
[14:18] <tryhg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet    I followed these instructions. Selecting to boot from Ubuntu now gives me a black screen and blanking dot, that's it. Should i re-change something in GRUB?
[14:18] <dagere891> still can not hear the sound after plugin hdmi in and out
[14:20] <anddam> Files sorts folders starting with "@" like the at char wasn't there. Is there a way to avoid that?
[14:33] <ilya>  /msg NickServ identify 6tEwin6_KTEjLh-
[14:42] <cappe> I'm having issues with snap/snapd. It cannot connect to my LOCALHOST, cannot communicate with server? no such file or directory -- /run/snapd-snap.socket
[14:42] <cappe> when I'm trying to use the program, I'm stuck with that errormsg
[14:42] <ducasse> cappe: is snapd running?
[14:42] <cappe> it'
[14:42] <cappe> is not
[14:43] <ducasse> cappe: 'sudo systemctl start snapd'
[14:43] <cappe> Failed to start snapd.service: Unknown unit: snapd.service
[14:44] <bishesh> hello!
[14:45] <ducasse> cappe: try reinstalling the snapd package
[14:45] <cappe> just did, same error after a remove and install with apt-get
[14:46] <ducasse> cappe: you'd need to do a purge, not remove
[14:46] <cappe> oki
[14:47] <cappe> tried that too, no luck =/
[14:47] <bishesh> is anyone here using arch as a dual boot??
[14:47] <cappe> I purged then installed snapd
[14:47] <cappe> and tried status with systemctl
[14:48] <ducasse> cappe: ok. i think you should ask in #snappy, they know the whole snap thing much better than we do until we get used to it.
[14:48] <cappe> ok
[14:50] <amicus|2> Why was the chrome support for 32 bit linux was stopped?
[14:50] <ducasse> amicus|2: ask google.
[14:51] <ducasse> amicus|2: probably because 32-bit systems are becoming less common now, but that's a guess.
[14:51] <k1l_> amicus|2: 32bit hardware is running out. most systems with old 32bit cus are to slow to run a proper webbrowser with regular internet usage anyway.
[14:51] <violencechildren> hello
[14:51] <k1l_> *cpus
[14:51] <violencechildren> where am I?
[14:52] <violencechildren> WHERE AM I?
[14:52] <k1l_> !guidelines | violencechildren
[14:52] <ducasse> !topic | violencechildren
[14:52] <amicus|2> ducasse: thanks
[14:54] <ducasse> amicus|2: or put it another way - how many chrome users (as a percentage) were using it on 32-bit linux? not many.
[14:55] <lucido-cwl> hi, how do I install a system wide client certificate
[14:55] <lucido-cwl> need to use it with git
[14:57] <amicus|2> ducasse: you're correct. i found chromium is still available for linux. wil use that.. thanks
[14:59] <ducasse> lucido-cwl: afaik, put it in /etc/ssl/certs and run update-ca-certificates, but i could be wrong.
[15:33] <Johnny`> I am reading a site about how to get Jack going. Unfortunately, it won't work in tangent with pulseaudio. Any ideas?
[15:34] <Johnny`> Ubuntu forces Pulseaudio on you by making it a dependency so its not giving me any other options.
[15:35] <ducasse> Johnny`: maybe pulseaudio-module-jack helps? read the description of it.
[15:35] <Johnny`> alright
[15:35] <Pici> Johnny`: If that doesn't help, You may want to ask in #ubuntustudio , they know how JACK works a lot better than we do.
[15:35] <Johnny`> Hmm maybe I should just uninstall default Ubuntu and install Ubuntu Studio then?
[15:36] <Johnny`> I guess I'll have to back up a lot of my files
[15:36] <ducasse> Johnny`: should not be necessary
[15:36] <Johnny`> oh
[15:36] <Johnny`> I'll read Pulseaudio-module0jack
[15:36] <Johnny`> Lets go with that idea lol
[15:36] <ducasse> Johnny`: try 'apt show pulseaudio-module-jack'
[15:37] <ducasse> Johnny`: "These modules enables PulseAudio to connect to a jackd daemon."
[15:38] <Johnny`> ducasse, http://pastebin.com/i7qSknSE
[15:38] <Johnny`> I guess to use that I would have to uninstall jack
[15:38] <Johnny`> Because it breaks jack
[15:39] <Johnny`> Well it breaks jackd2-0 and libjack0
[15:40] <ducasse> ah, i didn't notice. ask the guys in #ubuntustudio how they do things, they know the audio side much better.
[15:40] <Johnny`> alright
[15:49] <sieg> i'm trying to use expect to catch a ip, but it doesn't work, any idea how? expect -re ((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)(\.)){3}(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)
[15:51] <ducasse> sieg: a quick google search will give you tons of nice regexps to catch an ip
[15:51] <sieg> the regex it's fine
[15:51] <poops> need help increasing lvm. increased disk size in vmware and increased partition size with gparted. how do I increase the size of my LVM which is in an extended partition?. here is my fdisk: http://text-share.com/view/347e6479
[15:53] <poops> can anyone help with above?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje_> !patience | poops
[15:54] <lotuspsychje_> poops: best way is to re-ask once in a while in this channel, with all your details, steps taken
[15:54] <StickyRice1> poops:  whats the question?
[15:55] <poops> StickyRice1: see above - fdisk
[15:55] <StickyRice1> poops:   just joined...cant see above
[15:55] <poops> need help increasing lvm. increased disk size in vmware and increased partition size with gparted. how do I increase the size of my LVM which is in an extended partition?. here is my fdisk: http://text-share.com/view/347e6479
[15:56] <poops> vg is 30gb and Im supposed to have 30+ free
[15:58] <poops> lv and pv displays: http://text-share.com/view/2e0807fe
[15:59] <Budhnop> Hi all I have a question, I need to be able to upload some files from remove switchs to my ubuntu. Ive tried vsftp, but I could manage to make it only work when I wanted, it kept "starting" the service on startup
[16:00] <StickyRice1> poops: im not the best at this but take a look at this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/116351/increase-partition-size-on-which-ubuntu-is-installed
[16:01] <StickyRice1> Budhnop:   you doing this from a windows machine?
[16:02] <poops> StickyRice1: thats not very helpful and still very scary
[16:02] <alfafabrome> Am seriously disappointed with Ubuntu thus far, I have a project that requires Linux and my hardware is not the newest, but thus far Ubuntu can't even do the simplest of things such as use an external monitor with my laptop.. this is crazy...  I have spent days on this, I have gotten some advice,but I am struggling, I downgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 because I was told I had to because I have ATI video, I followed the link to fglrx video drivers installand 
[16:02] <StickyRice1> Poops:  resize2fs not applicable?
[16:03] <poops> StickyRice1: dont know
[16:03] <Budhnop> StickyRice1, no Im logued into a firewall and I need to upload it to my machine, I want a ftp that I can "open it" upload the files to my PC and close it on demand
[16:05] <StickyRice1> Budhnop:  Ok, thought mobaXterm might come in handy for you.  Still would if you just log into both devices from it and then can browse the file system of both and transfer files.   If your looking to script it out automatically I'm not sure
[16:06] <alfafabrome> How is it that Ubuntu has no problem driving my external screen during installation, but cannot use it after it is installed?
[16:06] <StickyRice1> alfafabrome:  I've not had much luck with discrete (hybrid) video graphics in any version of linux.
[16:07] <Budhnop> StickyRice1, Automating it isnt nescessary, I just want to log into my firewall (I use secureCRT) and from there just upload the backup file to an ftp server (which in this case is my PC) but I need to send it throu FTP
[16:08] <alfafabrome> I love the concept and truly am willing to  put forth the effort to make it work,but heck,I have to be missing something....
[16:08] <lookcrabs> 7~
[16:08] <StickyRice1> alfafabrome:  what hardware are you using?
[16:09] <alfafabrome> Stcky Dell Inspiron n5110
[16:10] <Kingsy> man I hate unity. Anyone aware of this bug --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1559576?comments=all
[16:11] <alfafabrome> Sticky I also have an usb adapter available to go from USB to HDMI, it works perfectly in a win world. So I know the cable is good but have changed it to verify as well
[16:11] <parabool> I was just installing Ubuntu on a laptop when the battery died... I'm trying to re-start the installation, but i just get a dark screen with a flashing white dot. I don't see the GRUB menu, at all.
[16:11] <parabool> any ideas?
[16:12] <alfafabrome> Currently I have 14.04 installed
[16:16] <davidj> @Kingsy Are you sure that isn't uefi bios related?
[16:16] <Kingsy> I don't really see another choice for an HTPC other than gnome tbh
[16:16] <Kingsy> davidj: pretty sure, I installed the exact same driver with unity instead of gnome and it worked perfectly
[16:16] <davidj> Interesting.
[16:16] <davidj> Well, no idea then.
[16:17] <Kingsy> davidj: what DI or WM would you choose for an HTPC ?
[16:17] <Kingsy> DE*
[16:17] <davidj> I'm the wrong person to ask about that. I immensely enjoy sticking with stock everything :)
[16:18] <Kingsy> I am starting to think I might just bin off a DE and just use openbox. unity is just awful.. in my opinion of course :)
[16:18]  * davidj nods.
[16:18] <Kingsy> so what GUi you using?
[16:18] <davidj> unity either has a lot of bugs, or I'm a problem-user.
[16:18] <davidj> Whatever's stock.
[16:18] <Kingsy> well stock == to whatever version yuo installed
[16:19] <Kingsy> xubuntu - ubuntu-gnome - lubuntu etc
[16:19] <Kingsy> ubuntu is unity stock iirc
[16:19] <k1l_> yes, ubuntu ships unity as standard desktop
[16:20] <RxMcDonald> hi, how many ubuntu can my computer take at the same time? It's a pentium cpu computer
[16:20] <Kingsy> oretty big deal gnome has a breaking bug for nvidia drivers.. I mean I would assume that would effect a great number of people
[16:20] <k1l_> RxMcDonald: what is your native language?
[16:20] <Anticom> Hey all. On Ubuntu16 is there any vim packages with **all** the optional stuff included? I always thought vim.nox is rather complete but i just realized, that there's quite a lot of stuff missing
[16:22] <RxMcDonald> k1l_: polish
[16:22] <k1l_> RxMcDonald: then try the #ubuntu-pl channel
[16:23] <RxMcDonald> k1l_: i asked there and people are eleepy
[16:23] <vaibhav> hey there
[16:23] <RxMcDonald> k1l_: do you know how many ubuntus can u take at the same time?
[16:23] <k1l_> RxMcDonald: that question doesnt malke sense in english
[16:24] <k1l_> *make
[16:24] <RxMcDonald> k1l_: how many ubuntu computer can you put inside a pentium CPU?
[16:24] <viral_mutant> I had to create a deb package from RPM for Ubuntu 16.04. My package installed python module in site-packages, which was not recognized by python
[16:25] <viral_mutant> I learnt that I need to install that in dist-packages
[16:25] <Budhnop> google translate makes my brain bleed
[16:25] <Budhnop> RxMcDonald, ask your question differently
[16:25] <karl__> I just installed ubuntu and noticed that a lot of programs have moved from apt to snap for some reason. I also noticed that I can't install via 'ubuntu software' if I don't create an account. But I can install from commandline without an account. Is there another gui interface? why does ubuntu keep two paralell package managers?
[16:26] <viral_mutant> but it’s also said that python built and installed from code expects the modules in ‘site-packages’
[16:26] <viral_mutant> now that confuses me, where should my rpm converted to deb package install the modules ?
[16:26] <RxMcDonald> Budhnop: do you know how many ubuntu can you fit inside a single CPU computer unit processor at the same time?
[16:26] <alfafabrome> Sorry, network dropped out
[16:26] <Anticom> Kingsy: why don't you just use Kodi for a HTPC? [ https://kodi.tv ]
[16:27] <Budhnop> RxMcDonald, do you meen in a Virtual machine?
[16:27] <RxMcDonald> Budhnop: no I mean inside my CPU computer, I need to add more ubuntu inside the CPU
[16:28] <karl__> I also noticed that some open source programs, such as blender, are listed as 'non-free' in 'ubuntu software' does anyone know the reasoning behind this? (blender is gpl)
[16:29] <Budhnop> RxMcDonald, that translator isnt working, your question makes no sense
[16:29] <poops> can anyone help me with this? http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/servers/209223-increase-lvm-vg-etc.html#post986521
[16:30] <StickyRice1> RxMcDonald:  what version do you have installed now?
[16:31] <RxMcDonald> I'm trying to insert more ubuntu inside of the CPU to be able to use my penetium computer systems
[16:32] <StickyRice1> RxMcDonald:  You can't insert more ubuntu.  That would be like saying I need to insert more wheels into my car to drive farther.
[16:35] <RxMcDonald> My computer is a penetium computer and it needs more ubuntu inside of the CPU to be able to work, I need to know how many ubuntu I can insert into the CPU
[16:36] <StickyRice1> RxMcDonald:  The languague barrier is tough.  Ask your question in polish please and I'll see if I can translate it?
[16:36] <Pici> There is also #ubuntu-pl
[16:37] <RxMcDonald> Mój komputer to komputer penetium i potrzebuje więcej ubuntu wewnątrz CPU, aby móc pracować, muszę wiedzieć, ile ubuntu mogę wstawić do CPU
[16:37] <Pici> StickyRice1: perhaps 'more' here means a higher version?
[16:37] <StickyRice1> i'm guessing but trying to get to it
[16:38] <Budhnop> or what version my cpu can handle
[16:38] <StickyRice1> same question in polish, I'm having trouble with the 'more ubuntu', what do you mean by 'more ubuntu'?
[16:40] <RxMcDonald> I need to increase the amount of ubuntu inside of the CPU because my computer is a penetium and it cannot work without enough ubuntu inside of the CPU
[16:41] <StickyRice1> RxMcDonald:  You only get 1 ubuntu.  If it is too slow add more memory to your machine.
[16:44] <RxMcDonald> yes, how do I add more ubuntu inside of the CPU? it's a penetium II CPU
[16:45] <StickyRice1> RxMcDonald:  what model of computer?
[16:46] <RxMcDonald> It's a Penetium II computer systems with mouse and keyboard
[16:47] <parabool> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet I used this to install Ubuntu on a laptop. Battery died, during the installation. I used the entire disk, so there's nothing left. Am I right in believing /boot got emptied, grub is most probably gone? I'm fcked, the USBs on the laptop are broken..
[16:47] <Budhnop> parabool, when starting the cpu is anything happening?
[16:48] <RxMcDonald> ok I need to go insert more ubuntu, thanks for the computer supporting
[16:48] <RxMcDonald> 💅
[16:49] <StickyRice1> RxMcDonald:  Powodzenia
[16:49] <parabool> Budhnop, yes, i get the option to enter BIOS etc. After that the screen goes black. I can't access grub using shift/esc
[16:50] <_Kevin_> I keep getting this error
[16:51] <_Kevin_> https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPj9BE18ATY
[16:51] <k1l_> _Kevin_: that is not an error :)
[16:51] <_Kevin_> the pkgproblemresolver with broken count: 0
[16:51] <_Kevin_> but i don't have any broken packages
[16:51] <alfafabrome> Here is a question if I use a USB graphics adapter, shouldn't that solve the entire ATI/ Intel hybrid video problem? I am thinking it should be an entirely different driver interacting with a different graphics controller. Is this correct or not?
[16:51] <_Kevin_> and --fix-broken doesn't do anything
[16:52] <k1l_> _Kevin_: that is what the message tells you: nothing is b roken, i cant fix anything
[16:52] <_Kevin_> but i don't want it to keep showing up
[16:52] <_Kevin_> it showed up after rebooting
[16:52] <k1l_> _Kevin_: what showed up?
[16:52] <_Kevin_> telling me that nothing is broken
[16:52] <k1l_> _Kevin_: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[16:52] <k1l_> and put all that output into a pastebin
[16:53] <_Kevin_> https://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBOErABrOT8
[16:53] <_Kevin_> after it finished updating the repos
[16:54] <Xundres> how add a program in "open with" menu?
[16:54] <_Kevin_> i'm on xenial btw
[16:55] <jje> ccccccbhknnljgkeigfkfgfiecitnruerlljjvrcubci
[16:55] <jje> sorry
[16:56] <k1l_> _Kevin_: did you change the apt settings?
[16:56] <_Kevin_> no
[16:56] <k1l_> _Kevin_: because that message doesnt come out of the blue
[16:57] <_Kevin_> it happened after install android-studio
[16:57] <_Kevin_> but i had default-jre and default-jdk installed
[16:57] <k1l_> usually you run something like "sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade" to get that message
[16:57] <_Kevin_> oh yeah i did something like that trying to resolve an issue with jdk and jre
[16:58] <_Kevin_> or something
[16:58] <_Kevin_> lemme see
[16:58] <k1l_> did you add that to the apt settings?
[16:58] <_Kevin_> sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install openjdk-9-jdk
[16:59] <_Kevin_> then i removed all openjdk9 stuff and reverted back to jdk8
[17:00] <_Kevin_> well, tbh first i installed android-studeio, but i didn't do openjdk first or something, so then i tried to install it and then it tried to do openjdk9 but kept failing which is why i did that
[17:01] <_Kevin_> then android studio wouldn't open, so i removed it all then reinstalled the default jdk and then android studio and everything works now
[17:01] <_Kevin_> except i get the pkgproblemresolver now
[17:01] <_Kevin_> even though i have no broken packages
[17:02] <_Kevin_> wait
[17:02] <_Kevin_> if i change this
[17:03] <_Kevin_> https://thepasteb.in/p/3lh7qJ0vQ0Ri1
[17:03] <_Kevin_> in apt.conf
[17:03] <_Kevin_> to false, would that fix it?
[17:04] <_Kevin_> that fixed it
[17:04] <_Kevin_> thanks!
[17:09] <nicklas> Hello. Running Xubuntu 16.10. Iv'e added the steam repos, but I can't find it for installation?
[17:09] <yobagme_> "sudo apt install steam"
[17:09] <yobagme_> Did you try that
[17:09] <S0bait> Hello, how can I share a user across newly installed oses on raspberry Pis?
[17:09] <nicklas> yobagme_, well no, but i cant find it in synaptic
[17:09] <S0bait> For example, we need to be able to git clone from our private users, at this moment, we will get denied of permission as the user is not added to the github.
[17:09] <lotuspsychje_> !steam | nicklas
[17:09] <S0bait> Would this mean, I have to copy a private key across install and whitelist
[17:09] <yobagme_> nicklas: what if you perform an "apt search steam" in a terminal window. You should see it listed
[17:09] <Anticom> Netsplit?
[17:11] <nicklas> yobagme_, hm, its there
[17:11] <nicklas> yobagme_, weird synaptic didnt find it
[17:11] <yobagme_> nicklas: OK, good. Now just install using "sudo apt install steam"
[17:12] <nicklas> yeah
[17:12] <zorba> hello world
[17:12] <nicklas> installing other stuff via synaptic, games
[17:12] <nicklas> so will have to wait
[17:12] <nicklas> but shouldnt synaptic find all packages?
[17:13] <yobagme_> Im not a synaptic user, so not sure why it wouldnt find it. I would assume they all use the same repos. Maybe a "sudo apt update" then search synaptic again?
[17:13] <yobagme_> *sources
[17:13] <sveinse> I'm running 16.04 gnome-shell and I need to set the system date for an experiment, but running "sudo date NEWDATE" sets the time briefly before jumping back to the current date. What do I need to disable to let me do this?
[17:15] <yobagme_> sveinse: is "Automatic Date & Time" and "Automatic Time Zone" enabled under Settings? If so turn them off
[17:16] <nicklas> oh, why use apt instead of apt-get now?
[17:16] <sveinse> yobagme_: thanks. worked fine.
[17:17] <alfafabrome>  Here is a question if I use a USB graphics adapter, shouldn't that solve the entire ATI/ Intel hybrid video problem? I am thinking it should be an entirely different driver interacting with a different graphics controller. Is this correct or not?
[17:17] <yobagme_> nicklas: They do the same thing, but apt is replacing apt-get.
[17:18] <Dr_Coke> does anybody know how to get the wifi for broadcom wireless driver source working when you install ubuntu from a burnt dvd that was downloaded
[17:18] <k1l_> nicklas: apt is the new apt-*
[17:18] <Dr_Coke> I mean where can I find the wireless driver source and how to get it working on ubuntu straight out when I just installed it
[17:18] <Dr_Coke> installed ubuntu
[17:18] <Dr_Coke> I mean
[17:22] <k1l_> alfafabrome: were you here asking yesterday?
[17:22] <alfafabrome> Yes, and everything I tried yesterday failed so back at it again
[17:23] <k1l_> that usb thing is the issue here.
[17:23] <k1l_> that will need special drivers to work. the amd drivers are only wokring with the card itself. not the usb thing
[17:24] <alfafabrome> Not really cause just trying to get the ATI working with any external monitor has failed miserably,
[17:24] <pinguinho> uau
[17:24] <nicklas> hm, maybe synaptic runs apt-get
[17:24] <pinguinho> good afternon
[17:24] <k1l_> (and i thought you were using the main external connection from the video card. that is why i asked about the drivers used there)
[17:25] <koichirose> Hello! I have some servers where the MOTD shows "there are available updates", meaning it runs apt update in the background somehow. I don't have that message on other servers. How can I enable it? Note that I still want to upgrade myself.
[17:25] <alfafabrome> K1 I went the fglrx route, the whole system black screened
[17:26] <alfafabrome> K1 after downgraded to 14.O4 at least the ATI shows up in the additional drivers section
[17:27] <alfafabrome> K1 but it won't let me select it
[17:29] <k1l> alfafabrome: yes, because your old amd card is not supported by amd anymore. that is why it doesnt offer the amdgpu driver on1 6.05
[17:29] <k1l> *16.04
[17:30] <k1l> but you need to look how you get your usb thing working. that is not related to the amd card
[17:31] <alfafabrome> K1 I would take any option that got me back up on my external screen at this point
[17:35] <aardvark> test
[17:37] <fartface> I'm trying to execute an rsync command with exclusions.  If I run `rsync -avzhe --exclude="/folder" root@server:/share /share`, I get an error
[17:38] <fartface> rsync: Failed to exec --exclude="/folder": No such file or directory (2)
[17:38] <turista> hello every1, I've just got another question!
[17:38] <fartface> Do those exclusion paths need to be absolute paths?  I thought they could be relative?
[17:39] <turista> I've two options to download (using the apt-get update); the main server who goes fast and another that means to be more close but most of times, it says that fail the connection. Should I return or use the main server?¿
[17:42] <Guest93898> hello
[17:43] <sl4v3> hello Guest
[17:56] <bonsaitree> Where can i find the files which are used to modify the Thinkpad's trackpoint resolution and sensitivity?
[18:02] <untoreh> I was following the BuildYourOwnKernel wiki page but it does not say how to just build one module
[18:03] <Budhnop> parabool, yea well seems like you out of luck...
[18:04] <Budhnop> parabool, it happended to me too... what I did was to install the HD on another computer, install linux on it then retransfer the HD to thwe original box
[18:07] <OerHeks> untoreh, building one module does not automatic result in the need to build your own kernel.
[18:09] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild . http://askubuntu.com/questions/515407/how-recipe-to-build-only-one-kernel-module
[18:13] <brunch875> can I use the unix syslog as a whim or is this a bad idea?
[18:15] <untoreh> OerHeks: I tried that, but can't install the module because of no signing
[18:16] <zteam_> Hi!
[18:20] <koleygr> !ask | <zteam_>
 Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[18:23] <zteam_> I'm getting some weird output from the du command (disk usage) see here according to du my /var/log directory takes up 32 GB but according to ls it's only a few kb du output from du is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24035214/ and  ls is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24035235/
[18:23] <zteam_> it's probably me missing something obvious but I can't figure out what
[18:23] <untoreh> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/raw/PwxvJZHk
[18:24] <zteam_> koleygr, well, thanks for advice man, but I know how to ask questions, I just usually likes to say first ;-)
[18:25] <zteam_> Say Hi, I did meant to say
[18:27] <ioria> zteam_,  may i suggest you   ncdu package ? it's less confusing
[18:27] <ioria> !info ncdu
[18:27] <donofrio> is broadcast the gateway from ifconfig?
[18:28] <zteam_> ioria, absolutely, but I would still like to figure out why du is acting like this. it applies to gnomes diskusage analyzer as well :-)
[18:29] <xixunier> hi
[18:29] <xixunier> when I do apt-cache show flightgear
[18:29] <mattfeng> hi
[18:29] <ioria> zteam_, you can' use ls -sh for a folder size .. it just sum the directories size
[18:29]  * GoosGoarch waves.
[18:29] <xixunier> what are the units of hte size ?
[18:29] <xixunier> is it KB?
[18:30] <xixunier> or what ? not sure, when I read the man apt-cache it's not listed ?
[18:30] <Joel> brain fart, and google fu is failing, how can I get the version of an uninstalled package?
[18:30] <Joel> I have it on disk
[18:30] <nikitosiusis> can anybody tell me if I will ever get fresh chromium-browser in trusty ?
[18:30] <xixunier> It's not even listed on that manal, so what are the units that it uses ?
[18:30] <xixunier> ioria:
[18:31] <zteam_> ioria, well, isn't that exactly what du does too?
[18:31] <ioria> nope
[18:31] <ioria> zteam_, folder size: 4 k, as you see from your paste
[18:32] <ioria> zteam_,  14 *4 = 56
[18:35] <zteam_> ioria, so bascially ls -la is just listing the directory size but it doesn't look inside other directories recursievly?
[18:35] <ioria> right
[18:35] <ioria> zteam_,  mkdir pippo && ls -sh
[18:36] <ioria> zteam_,  4k
[18:37] <zteam_> ioria, thanks, that explains alot, even thought I don't really get, why it doesn't count the folder recursievly as well :)
[18:37] <arooni> hm
[18:37] <ayan> xixunier: it looks like KB.
[18:37] <arooni> how do i find out where an app like Togl Time tracker is installed on ubuntu 16.04?
[18:38] <xixunier> ayan: don't know , but there is no formal docs or manual that say that
[18:38] <arooni> ah htop worked
[18:38] <Xundres> how can I stop the automatic scan of wireless network in background?
[18:39] <ayan> xixunier: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=173120
[18:40] <xixunier> yeah, so it's byte ?
[18:41] <ayan> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Installed-Size
[18:42] <ayan> it looks like it is an estimate rounted up to the nearest KB.
[18:42] <xixunier> Size: 1060262
[18:43] <xixunier> apt show apt shows 1.-6kb
[18:43] <ayan> but 'apt show' gives the unit.
[18:43] <xixunier> 1.06kb now that's not a million clearly
[18:44] <xixunier> 1.06kb=1060262 how is that even possible
[18:44] <ioria> zteam_, you can try  ls -lSh -R
[18:44] <xixunier> on the other hand it shows Installed-Size: 3308
[18:45] <xixunier> which is quite right to be 3.3kb
[18:45] <xixunier> apt show apt | grep Size does agree here
[18:46] <zteam_> ioria, yes, ls -la -R does solve it beautuifully, just figured out that the syslog is eating up my disc space, apparently it does eat 33 GB :-O
[18:46] <ayan> xixunier: well -- the debian policy manual says it should be the nearest KB.  i don't know why it would differ from that but it seems to.
[18:46] <ioria> zteam_,  that's big, check what's in there
[18:49] <xixunier> ioria do you know /
[18:49] <xixunier> when i do it in flightgear it shows
[18:49] <ioria> xixunier, what ?
[18:49] <xixunier> apt-cache --no-all-versions show flightgear | grep '^Size: '
[18:49] <xixunier> Size: 4362564
[18:49] <xixunier> Download-Size: 4.363 kB
[18:49] <zteam_> ioria, pretty hard to analyze the whole log, but this line seems repeated indefineatly (well almost?) compiz[2632]: extern "Python": function Cryptography_rand_bytes() called, but @ffi.def_extern() was not called in the current subinterpreter.  Returning 0.
[18:50] <xixunier> that's what apt show flightgear shows ? So the unit seems to be not kb, but something strange
[18:51] <xixunier> 4.36kb divided by 4.36 million !
[18:51] <ioria> xixunier,  installed kodi ?
[18:51] <xixunier> now the unit seems to be 1/1000 th of a byte !
[18:51] <xixunier> no, not kodi
[18:52] <ioria> zteam_, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/447828
[18:52] <xixunier> why are you talking of media players now ioria
[18:53] <ioria> xixunier,  sorry it was for zteam_
[18:53] <xixunier> now the unit seems to be 1/1000 the of a byte , ioria
[18:53] <xixunier> ioria: how long have you been using ubuntu, and as you can see from my analysis, it's strange
[18:54] <xixunier> I have been using it, only for two months and found strange things
[18:54] <xixunier> regarding the size format, specs
[18:54] <zteam_> ioria, yes, I did got kodi installed, upgraded it yesterday, so perhaps it has something to do with kodi
[18:54] <OerHeks> the seagate gb caused all this kb kB or Kb difference.
[18:54] <xixunier> zteam_: use mpv instead of kodi
[18:55] <alfafabrome> I am back.. .
[18:55] <ayan> xixunier: though the value of that field is defined and though there are tools to manage that field, i don't think it is strictly enforced when generating a package.  i think (and this is purly IMHO) that what you're seeing is the result of naughty package maintainers.
[18:55] <OerHeks> xixunier, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnitsPolicy
[18:55] <ioria> zteam_,  probably, yes
[18:56] <xixunier> OerHeks: I know those units
[18:56] <ioria> brb
[18:57] <alfafabrome> Additional drivers will not accept the change to use fglrx-updates proprietary driver on 14.04 it jumps back to xorg - and/ATI display driver wrapper....
[18:57] <xixunier> yeah, now I get all the info on the package size if wrong, and they dont even care to rectify that, so I don't care either
[18:57] <xixunier> is wrong
[18:57] <OerHeks> alfafabrome, ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx ?
[18:58] <xixunier> apt-cache is deceptive
[18:58] <zteam_> xixunier,well I really happen to like kodi, don't like the fact that it maybe is filling up my harddrive with junk thought
[18:58] <xixunier> zteam_: then use the advanced mpv, wich has tons of features unlike kodi
[18:59] <alfafabrome> OerHeks If you are asking thehard ware it is Radeon HD 6400/7400
[18:59] <xixunier> and it is lightweight, double whammy zteam_
[18:59] <OerHeks> alfafabrome, yes, oke that card should be supported with fglrx updates?
[18:59] <alfafabrome> As soon as I plug in the HDMI port the screens go buggy
[19:00] <alfafabrome> Changing resolution modes and everything
[19:00] <OerHeks> ah. don't plug in, start up with hdmi monitor enabled, not all cards can handle plug&play hdmi
[19:00] <ayan> xixunier: maybe a better way to estimate the size if a package is to look at the .list file in /var/lib/dpkg/info ?
[19:00] <OerHeks> * perfectly
[19:01] <alfafabrome> So when I click on the fglrx driver it automatically  reverts to xorg... OK unplugged now
[19:01] <ayan> xixunier: afterall -- i think the Size field is an esitmate created when the package is built.  walking the .list file will tell you exactly which files and directories take up disk space.
[19:03] <alfafabrome> OerHeks how to get the proprietary driver to enable?
[19:04] <OerHeks> install without hdmi monitor enabled, shutdown and try again?
[19:05] <xixunier> .list is a list ayan not size
[19:05] <xixunier> I just can't sum up the size, unless I create a program to do it
[19:06] <alfafabrome> OerHeks how to install? Via another install fglrx?
[19:06] <alfafabrome> Aptget
[19:06] <alfafabrome> ?
[19:08] <alfafabrome> OerHeks.  Says it depends on libcheese
[19:09] <alfafabrome> OerHeks... OK installing fglrx
[19:09] <alfafabrome> Should I get fglrx-updates as well?
[19:09] <OerHeks> i would, yes.
[19:11] <zteam_> xixunier, yes I'm gnonna look into it :-)
[19:11] <zteam_> ioria, thanks for the help man, I really appreicate it :-)
[19:15] <dna113p> If I have 2 drives, one is gpt and one is mbr. I just installed a new bootloader called clover from inside macosx on the gpt drive. Now I can't boot into the  mbr drive which contains my ubuntu installation.
[19:15] <dna113p> did i overwrite something/ is there any way to access my ubuntu installation
[19:17] <nobodyknows> hello
[19:17] <ducasse> dna113p: i would think the new bootloader need to be told about the ubuntu install, if both boot in uefi mode.
[19:17] <nobodyknows> what do I do when dpkg can't download dependecies?
[19:18] <ducasse> nobodyknows: dpkg never downloads anything, apt does
[19:18] <nobodyknows> ducasse oh but when I do dpkg -i dependecies are downloaded automatically aren't they?
[19:19] <ducasse> nobodyknows: no, you need to run 'sudo apt install -f' afterwards
[19:19] <nobodyknows> ducasse I see but what do I do when that doesn't help and I really want to install that package?
[19:20] <nobodyknows> it's happened to me a few times now
[19:20] <ducasse> nobodyknows: in that case you're scr**ed
[19:20] <nobodyknows> ducasse really nothing can be done? :(
[19:21] <k1l> nobodyknows: what pacakge was it?
[19:21] <setting> Chiaooo
[19:21] <k1l> and what ubuntu are you on? can you put all the output to paste.ubuntu.com and show it here?
[19:21] <ducasse> nobodyknows: well, if you can find packages somewhere to satisfy the dependencies, then yes, but at that point you're doing so many hacky things it would be better to find another way to get that application.
[19:21] <nobodyknows> k1l Unity3D and also weechat 1.7.1
[19:22] <nobodyknows> I see, I will paste the output in a second
[19:22] <ducasse> nobodyknows: on which ubuntu?
[19:22] <nobodyknows> Ubuntu 16.10
[19:22] <k1l> nobodyknows: why dont you use the ubuntu packages?
[19:23] <nobodyknows> k1l you mean the version of weechat that is in Ubuntu's repository? it's because it's an old version and I don't think Unity3D is there
[19:24] <k1l> ok, so that pacakges were not made for 16.10?
[19:26] <nobodyknows> ok I see that I downloaded weechat for debian instead of ubuntu, but the problem still remains with Unity3D and I'm not sure for what version it was made
[19:27] <alfafabrome> OerHeks I unplugged the HDMI, installed fglrx and fglrx-updates and rebooted, now I have a black blank screen.......... What now?
[19:27] <nobodyknows> Unity except a .deb package also has some kind of installer script for other distributions, maybe I will try that one
[19:28] <nobodyknows> thanks for your help
[19:28] <nobodyknows> alfafabrome troubles with AMD drivers?
[19:29] <alfafabrome> Nobody...Yes 3 days worth
[19:29] <CrazySane> alfafabrome: quote the entire username, or it won't ping them properly.
[19:29] <nobodyknows> alfafabrome I know the pain. The default driver and amdgpu don't work for you?
[19:30] <k1l> alfafabrome: why always the fglrx-updates? not the regular fglrx? what does the Xorg.0.og say in /var/log?
[19:30] <anddam> is LANGUAGE even a thing in locale? http://askubuntu.com/q/193251
[19:30] <alfafabrome> Crazysane ok
[19:30] <alfafabrome> Nobody knows reg drivers won't allow any external monitor s
[19:30] <CrazySane> alfafabrome: You can use the TAB key to complete a username after you've typed part of it.
[19:31] <k1l> alfafabrome: keep in mind, that you need to run the 3.13 on 14.04 to use fglrx. not the 4.4 kernel
[19:31] <alfafabrome> How do I log back in from the black screen
[19:31] <k1l> ctrl+alt+f1
[19:31] <ducasse> nobodyknows: if you *need* a newer weechat, use the ubuntu repos from weechat
[19:32] <k1l> you can try to use nomodeset, too
[19:32] <bSchool>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
[19:32] <alfafabrome> K1l not working
[19:32] <Pici> nobodyknows: there might also be a PPA available for weechat.
[19:32] <nobodyknows> ducasse: yeah I noticed it a moment ago. I downloaded debian version instead, so that's why it didn't work
[19:33] <bSchool> Currently I have 2 .conf files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled one starts with 000 and the other doesn't. the 000 is the backup right?
[19:33] <ducasse> nobodyknows: just add the repo so you get updates
[19:33] <nobodyknows> Pici I didn't find any but I think downloading ubuntu version from the website will fix the problem, because it worked in the past
[19:34] <nobodyknows> ducasse: I didn't know there was a repo, I will do that then! thanks :)
[19:34] <Malmis> I can not get rid of iptables log outputs to console. Can someone please help me? I changed the sysctl.conf, doesn't help. I can't really understand rsyslog and every page i find on google tells me about syslog.
[19:34] <nobodyknows> alfafabrome what happens when you connect external monitor?
[19:34] <alfafabrome> K1l.  I have the grub on screen...
[19:34] <Scunizi> I'm looking for a cli way to re-print all pdf's in the directory I'm at, to themselves.  The result would be a "flattened" pdf for each file. File size cannot increase. Any suggestions? I know this will be a function most likely.
[19:35] <ducasse> nobodyknows: click the download link at the top, then there should be a link to debian/ubuntu repos. it even fill in the commands for you if you select your version from a menu.
[19:35] <rypervenche> Malmis: What are you trying to do exactly? Why do you need iptables log outputs? For what?
[19:35] <k1l> alfafabrome: press e, then write nomodeset into the kernel line and remove "quiet splash" there
[19:36] <CrazySane> bSchool: no - the number leading the file name simply sets the order in which the files are read from the config directory.
[19:36] <Malmis> rypervenche i wan't to analyze the logs to see what is blocked. I have filters in rsyslog that logs everything to like fw-reject.log , fw-drop.log, fw-accept.log. But i don't wanna se them when running dmesg
[19:36] <nobodyknows> ducasse: is this the repo link? https://weechat.org/ubuntu
[19:37] <bSchool> CrazySane: so if my / redirects me to /mail where would that exist?
[19:37] <tarball> hello everyone, on ubuntu 16.10. I recently had the following: my whole desktop including system tray began to move wherever the cursor moved. at the same time the display got a tick blurrier. because I was hinted at a rootkit on another channel, I ran chkrootkit, and got this line in the output: 'Checking 'tcpd'...INFECTED'.. though the first post here reads as this is a false positive: https://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/chkrootkit, can I
[19:37] <tarball> safely assume that all is fine with the system?
[19:38] <CrazySane> bSchool: I don't understand your question?
[19:38] <ducasse> nobodyknows: https://weechat.org/download/debian/ <--- scroll down to the instructions at the bottom, and select yakkety from the menu
[19:38] <tarball> meanwhile I also got the same error as here when I switched to terminal at the login screen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1550779
[19:38] <anddam> while selecting only en_GB.UTF-8 in locales configuration I see that the afterscript (likely calling locale-gen) generates all en_* locales, why is this and how can I avoid it? I'd like to only generate en_GB
[19:38] <tarball> could my display problem related to the bug reported here?
[19:38] <skyl> what is the best network FPS in the package manager nowadays? I used to play tremulous!
[19:38] <tarball> be related to*
[19:40] <dvanwage> tarball - Check the MD5 checksum on tcpd
[19:40] <nobodyknows> ducasse: thanks I didn't notice that
[19:40] <dvanwage> if OK, then it is a false positive
[19:40] <tarball> dvanwage, I checked sha1sum, and it matches, but sha1sum, md5sum etc. can themselves be tampered with, right?
[19:41] <ducasse> nobodyknows: works like a charm for me, on both ubuntu and debian
[19:41] <dvanwage> In theory, yes
[19:41] <dvanwage> but I guess it depends on how secure you think your setup is.
[19:41] <tarball> that's why I ask how I can otherwise make sure this is a false positive.
[19:41] <dvanwage> i.e. if you think you may have a hole somewhere
[19:42] <nobodyknows> ducasse: I will try it out now :)
[19:42] <dvanwage> tarball: Check your MD5's vs a google search of the MD5 check on that file
[19:42] <dvanwage> (as an idea)
[19:43] <alfafabrome> K1l OK I have command orompt
[19:43] <ducasse> tarball: it should be 8f9ef65213bbddd6e21c414d8606e255 on 64-bit
[19:43] <tarball> dvanwage, the ubuntu forum post already shows that it is the same sha1sum
[19:44] <alfafabrome> OerHeks I am back at the command prompt
[19:44] <ducasse> tarball: a hash collision _can_ happen, but it's not very likely given that this is a known issue
[19:44] <Si0n> Strange question, has anyone had any experience downgrading from Ubuntu 16.10 to 16.04 using APT without wiping? I suspect it cannot be done, but APT never ceases to amaze me :-)
[19:44] <dvanwage> tarball: based on what you wrote, plus what others are saying, I'd say you very highly likely have a false positive
[19:44] <tarball> dvanwage, yes md5sum matches, too
[19:45] <anddam> my /etc/locale.gen has only en_GB.UTF-8 uncommented, why is locale-gen building all en_ variants?
[19:46] <tarball> dvanwage, ducasse, yes that it is a known issue makes it more likely so..how about my display problem? can I find out how it happened (once yesterday and once today), or whether it is the same bug that I posted above?
[19:46] <Bashing-om> Si0n: I have heard that it is possible to dowbgrade the release with apt .. but is a WHOLE lot of work and a great deal of expertize. best back up and clean install .
[19:47] <bSchool> I copied a lot of files from one server to the other, lets say PC a and PC b. The permissions for the folders/files work on PC a but did not copy over to PC b. I still have access to PC a and PC b. Is there a way to copy an entire directory including permissions from one server to the other?
[19:47] <bSchool> CrazySane: figured it out, thanks.
[19:47] <Si0n> Bashing-om: Thanks, that's what I feared. Thought it would be worth asking first.
[19:48] <ducasse> Si0n: ancient debian wisdom says Don't Do That
[19:48] <CrazySane> bSchool: np
[19:48] <Bashing-om> Si0n: :) I know I would not even think to consider it .
[19:48] <Si0n> ducasse: :-)
[19:49] <ducasse> Si0n: apt simply isn't built for it, is the reason i've always heard
[19:50] <dvanwage> Question -> I have a few cheapo IP Cameras (running RSTP/RTP). Anyone have a good linux based camera manager software they would recommend? I've looked at some home automation ones, too bulky.
[19:50] <alfafabrome> Gg
[19:50] <dvanwage> ie. Domogik
[19:50] <Malmis> rypervenche any idea?
[19:51] <Si0n> Bashing-om: ducasse: Doesn't surprise me. I'm just having issues the GTK3 and the nvidia driver that I didn't have in 16.04. Hopefully I can wait out for 17.04
[19:52] <rypervenche> Malmis: I done use Ubuntu on a daily basis, but I don't see why it would be going into your dmesg log. But then again, I don't use systemd on a daily basis either.
[19:52] <Si0n> Hmm, what state is 17.04 in :-)
[19:52] <Bashing-om> Si0n: 16.10 should have the better nVidia support - I do expect .
[19:53] <ducasse> Si0n: yakkety introduced gtk 3.20, which is known to cause problems with several applications. for example roxterm had to be dropped from the repos. nvidia i know nothing about.
[19:53] <Si0n> Bashing-om: There's a race-condition bug between nvidia and some wifi hardware.
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Si0n: Best asked about 17.04 in #ubuntu+1 . But I have it installed and gnome3 is solid ( nvidia graphics ) .
[19:54] <Si0n> Bashing-om: I'll give that ago (it's been a while since I've used pre-release versions) - I use Darktable and that doesn't play nice with the GTK3 in 16.10.
[19:55] <dvanwage> last repost Question -> I have a few cheapo IP Cameras (running RSTP/RTP). Anyone have a good linux based camera manager software they would recommend? I've looked at some home automation ones, too bulky.
[19:55] <Bashing-om> Si0n: :) 20 minutes and you will know . Boot the liveDVD and see what it looks like .
[19:57] <Si0n> Bashing-om: LiveCD - pah, that means I've got to find a spare USB key. Let install on my live system :-)
[19:57] <alfafabrome> K1l I have made it back to the command line now what?
[19:58] <k1l> alfafabrome: look at Xorg.0.log or dmesg what is going wrong
[19:58] <Bashing-om> alfafabrome: ' uname -r ' reports what kernel ? as HWE on 14.04 has no FGLRX support .
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Si0n: {) Guilty my self . 5 'buntu's installed bare metal .
[20:00] <tarball> I got this error as here when I switched to terminal at the login screen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1550779 and just before that, my whole desktop moved up and down as I moved the cursor, and the display got a tick blurrier.
[20:00] <tarball> the latter anomaly was seen in the session preceding the former
[20:01] <alfafabrome> Bashing-om uname -r reports 4.4.0-63-generic
[20:01] <k1l> alfafabrome: then sudo apt purge fglrx*
[20:02] <k1l> alfafabrome: first you need to change back to the 3.13 kernel when you have a running desktop again
[20:03] <alfafabrome> How to change back to that kernal
[20:04] <evilptr> Has anybody had experience with the Elan1000 touchpad that ships with Asus ROG laptops?
[20:04] <k1l> first get rid of fglrx to get to reboot to a desktop with internet
[20:04] <applepi> Hi all..  I'm running ubuntu 14.04 on an armhf board, and /etc/init/hwclock.conf doesn't seem to ever been getting executed.
[20:04] <applepi> I've changed the exec to just touch a new file and it doesn't appear to be working - is this a known issue?  I can't seem to track anything down..
[20:07] <applepi> I can manually service hwclock start it
[20:08] <OerHeks> applepi, maybe #ubuntu-arm can help you there?
[20:08] <OerHeks> maybe it is device specific
[20:09] <applepi> OerHeks, well, it's just the hwclock.conf script - I've stripped it down to do nothing but touch a file, not do anything with the hwclock
[20:11] <tarball> is the error I am getting likely to be related to the bug above?
[20:12] <alfafabrome> K1l after sudo apt purge fglrx* still boots back to a black screen....
[20:12] <alfafabrome> Ugh
[20:13] <k1l> is fglrx stuff still installed?
[20:14] <alfafabrome> K1l how to check?
[20:14] <k1l> dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[20:15] <k1l> you said it worked before and you isntalled fglrx
[20:15] <alfafabrome> Yes it would boot to the desktop
[20:19] <applepi> I have confirmed hwclock.conf doesn't do anything on desktop ubuntu 14.04 either
[20:19] <ioria> alfafabrome, what's your video card ?  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[20:20] <alfafabrome> K1l Yes still install sub process /use /bin/dpkg returned and error code (1)
[20:20] <k1l> alfafabrome: ?
[20:21] <ioria> alfafabrome,  maybe paste the error
[20:23] <alfafabrome> K1l I didn't purge fglrx-updates before purge fglrx-updates, so it was generating an error
[20:23] <alfafabrome> K1l desktop back up
[20:24] <alfafabrome> How to change the kernal?
[20:24] <bSchool> my webserver, apache, when i go to site/ redirects to site/mail where would this redirect be done. I recently installed iredmail if that's useful
[20:24] <k1l> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all libwayland-egl1-mesa
[20:24] <k1l> alfafabrome: ^
[20:25] <k1l> maybe it tells it has issues with unity-control-center . then install unity-control-center  first and then run the command above again
[20:25] <stryakr_> Running a relatively new install of 16.04.1, should my regular user be a part of the bluetooth group? I am having trouble adding devices, specifically Logitech MX Master
[20:30] <alkisg> stryakr_: no
[20:30] <alfafabrome> K1l OK got that installing... Next?
[20:30] <alfafabrome> K1l installed
[20:32] <k1l> alfafabrome: sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:32] <k1l> then reboot and see if its on 3.13 now
[20:32] <promet> Has anyone successfully installed wayland on 16.04 lts with open source nvidia drivers?
[20:32] <alfafabrome> K1l uname -r still reports 4.4 0-63-generic... Do I need to reboot
[20:32] <promet> Pardon proprietary drivers, I mean to say
[20:32] <alfafabrome> OK got it
[20:32] <k1l> alfafabrome: yes, no kernel change without reboot
[20:33] <alfafabrome> K1l makes sense
[20:36] <Malmis> rypervenche well, i don't think this will be that much of a problem anymore.. after some deep analyzing of my iptables script i found out that i wasn't allowing any udp connections to a specific port which uses both tcp and udp..  but i will anyway try to find a solution to this, so that i won't see any iptables log outputs when running dmesg
[20:37] <michal__> hello all, someone know how to figure out VLC installation on the newest LTS ubuntu ?\
[20:37] <alkisg> sudo apt install vlc
[20:39] <alfafabrome> K1l uname -r still says the same thing...
[20:39] <k1l> alfafabrome: did you run my command exactly as showed? did you run autoremove?
[20:39] <alfafabrome> K1l 4.4.0-63-generic
[20:39] <k1l> alfafabrome: details matter  a lot
[20:39] <alfafabrome> Both
[20:39] <michal__> @alkisg try it if you have clean install nevest ubuntu
[20:40] <k1l> michal__: run "sudo apt update"   first
[20:40] <coffeeguy> hi how do you "re-run your boot loader[grub]"
[20:41] <k1l> alfafabrome: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:41] <k1l> coffeeguy: sudo update-grub
[20:41] <coffeeguy> oh ty ty ty k1l  :)
[20:41] <michal__> it says libgles1-mesa is needed but i can not install it
[20:41] <michal__> mayby they remove/change some repositores or packs
[20:42] <k1l> michal__: put all the output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[20:42] <michal__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24036027/
[20:44] <k1l> michal__: try to install libgles1-mesa and see what the issue is
[20:44] <coffeeguy> is this bad k1l ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24036033/
[20:44] <k1l> coffeeguy: just a warning, not an errir
[20:45] <coffeeguy> kk thank you k1l
[20:45] <alfafabrome> K1l OK that is done
[20:45] <michal__> @kil i tried this but it says these is unstable
[20:45] <k1l> coffeeguy: just put a # in front of GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in /etc/default/grub
[20:45] <k1l> michal__: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[20:46] <coffeeguy> ok k1l will do ty :)
[20:46] <michal__> @kil 16.04.2
[20:48] <k1l> michal__: please preface the command with "LANG=C" and show the output here
[20:48] <michal__> how to do it ?
[20:49] <Scotty_> Can anyone help with a pairing issue of a Logitech T630 mouse in Xubuntu?
[20:49] <k1l> michal__: LANG=C sudo apt install libgles1-mesa | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:51] <michal__> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24036069/
[20:51] <bSchool> my webserver, apache, when i go to site/ redirects to site/mail where would this redirect be done. I recently installed iredmail if that's useful
[20:53] <alfafabrome> K1l did you get it?
[20:53] <k1l> alfafabrome: you need to show the link here
[20:53] <alkisg> michal__: run export LANG=C so that all the output is in english for the next commands. Then run: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy libgles1-mesa => and then put that output to pastebin
[20:54] <k1l> michal__: make sure the -updates and the -security repos are enabled in system settings
[20:54] <alkisg> michal__: it's possible that the problem is that your local ubuntu servers are not up to date
[20:54] <alkisg> If so, you can either wait for them to sync, or you can switch to the main servers
[20:54] <alkisg> The apt-cache command above will tell us
[20:54] <k1l> its not grabbing the libgles1-mesa from the update repo, that is the issue
[20:55] <Apachez> whats the proper way to change the width of scrollbars in ubuntu 16.10?
[20:55] <alkisg> I think his updates repo is not updated :)
[20:55] <alkisg> I've seen this 3 times so far with local ubuntu servers... :(
[20:55] <alkisg> They should somehow implement atomic updates
[20:55] <michal__> mayby i can change ubuntu server to other one ?
[20:56] <alkisg> michal__: first, tell us the output of the commands I said
[20:56] <k1l> michal__: are the named repos enabled in the system settings?
[20:57] <michal__> alkisg there is two commands:
[20:57] <michal__> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24036069/
[20:58] <michal__> all repos exept source is enabled
[20:58] <alfafabrome> K1l http://termbin.com/2z2a
[20:58] <alkisg> michal__: you didn't run the command I"m asking for: apt-cache policy libgles1-mesa
[20:59] <k1l> alfafabrome: looks like you didnt run my command as explained.
[20:59] <michal__> @alkisg https://paste.ubuntu.com/24036118/
[21:00] <Scotty_> I ran bluetoothctl and can power on, agent on and then apparently discover the mouse, but when I try to pair it, it all goes south.  Anyone have any ideas?
[21:00] <k1l> alfafabrome:  "sudo apt-get install -y --install-recommends linux-generic xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all libwayland-egl1-mesa | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:00] <alkisg> michal__: the problem is in the pl ubuntu server; it has old packages
[21:01] <alkisg> michal__: run: software-properties-gtk, and select the "main" server there
[21:01] <alkisg> michal__: then run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:02] <alkisg> michal__: usually, the server will sync itself in a few days and local people won't have that issue anymore
[21:02] <michal__> alkisg: it help! many thanks! :)
[21:03] <alkisg> michal__: you're welcome, now you can run software-properties-gtk again and put it back to the pl server if you want
[21:04] <michal__> alkisg: there is difference between PL and Global? exept download speed ?
[21:05] <alkisg> michal__: normally they should be the same, but some times local servers get the packages a few days later, and in the mean time they have issues like the one you just saw
[21:06] <michal__> alkisg: thanks, so i leave this as it now :)
[21:06] <alkisg> ok
[21:07] <Scotty_> Id like to try some basic troubleshooting, but I am not sure where to start.  Bluetooth does not, apparently, see my phone, my Garmin Vivoactive HR nor, more importantly, my mouse.
[21:07] <alfafabrome> K1l I typed exactly what you asked here is  a term in of it... Http://termbin.com/5th8
[21:10] <k1l> alfafabrome: sudo apt-get purge linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial
[21:13] <k1l> alfafabrome: after that is done, reboot
[21:14] <karlo|R|evelator> hi
[21:14] <michal__> hi
[21:29] <juan_> hi
[21:30] <juan_> so many people, and yet, so much silence...
[21:30] <bekks> And you disturbed it.
[21:30] <OerHeks> i just typed my password, see ?
[21:31] <Bashing-om> juan_: Support only . chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:31] <Herbalist> yea but we can't say anything unless it's about Ubuntu
[21:31] <juan_> g'by then
[21:31] <Herbalist> bye
[21:36] <Thorax> Can anyone tell me the Ubuntu live cd password?
[21:36] <Thorax> 16.10 version sorry
[21:36] <sonicwind2> guys... my upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 16.04.2 LTS went bad... got errors at the splash screen on reboot and it's stuck there... I can get to tty1 and tty 7... can't log in though... how can I get out of this safely? reboot or shutdown.
[21:36] <sonicwind2> live cd username is usually ubuntu with NO password
[21:37] <k1l> Thorax: password? ther should not be a password
[21:37] <Thorax> In the live environment, you can logout. Then if i want to log back in with a different DE, ie, Unity8, i need a username and password
[21:38] <k1l> Thorax: user is ubuntu, password is not set
[21:38] <Thorax> k1l, DOH!
[21:38] <Thorax> Cheers buddy
[21:39] <Thorax> Wow, Unity8 is.... not ready
[21:40] <sonicwind2> should I just hold the power button down or is there a better way?
[21:42] <alfafabrome> K1l here is the latest Linux image grep.  Http://termbin.com/dsmp
[21:43] <alfafabrome> K1l lost the desktop again. With the last apt purge
[21:43] <k1l> alfafabrome: does "sudo apt-get autoremove" remove something like the 4l4 kernels?
[21:43] <alfafabrome> No
[21:44] <k1l> sudo apt-get purge linux-image-4.4.0-63-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-63-generic
[21:48] <alfafabrome> K1l that got rid of some stuff, checking
[21:53] <alfafabrome> K1l uname -r now reports 3.13.0-109-generic
[21:56] <harkonen> hello
[21:57] <jcjordyn120> how can I fix grub? it's just falling back to the command line.
[22:02] <alfafabrome>  K1l still has one 4.4 entry, I don't know how to get rid of it. Http://termbin.com/n35x
[22:03] <k1l> alfafabrome: apt-get purge linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic
[22:07] <alfafabrome> K1l OK everything now 3.13 what now  ... Reinstalling xserver again?
[22:09] <k1l> alfafabrome: reboot, then you should be on 3.13 kernel
[22:09] <serverresc> hi all
[22:09] <jcjordyn120> I think it might be the config file in the efi partition
[22:10] <Apachez> whats the proper way to change the width of scrollbars in ubuntu 16.10?
[22:11] <serverresc>  Coming here as a last resort - been thru SO and listservs with no luck. Upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04 and fails into emergency mode during networking service startup. Looks related to the migration from upstart to systemd. Any recommendations for debug / fix?
[22:12] <serverresc> logs say "unable to connect to upstart - connection refused" (duh, because systemd replaced)
[22:12] <k1l> serverresc: 15.10 already had systemd
[22:13] <serverresc> why would ifup still be trying to use upstart? i removed upstart from the ifup scripts folder
[22:13] <alfafabrome> K1l yes I am on 3.13 but without a desktop
[22:13] <k1l> did the upgrade itself work properly? did you see errors? can you upload the dmesg from that system to a pastebin?
[22:14] <k1l> alfafabrome: try to use nomodeset in grub. then install fglrx
[22:15] <serverresc> k1l: thanks, one moment
[22:16] <serverresc> k1l: http://imgur.com/7LYgkfQ for upstart problem dmesg
[22:17] <abysmalweight> help. any good samaritan can help me with mic connected in combo jack of a laptop but being detected as headphones?
[22:17] <abysmalweight> been googling a fair bit but without success
[22:19] <k1l> serverresc: there are stil upstart scripts and wrappers in use. so just deleting something because of the name is not the best way
[22:19] <OerHeks> abysmalweight, maybe the jack input is different http://www.cablechick.com.au/resources/image/trrs-diagram2.jpg
[22:20] <serverresc> k1l: gotcha - is there a migration script / application? how do i at least get the machine to succesfully boot (with networking?)
[22:20] <k1l> serverresc: i dont see a reason to not boot there.
[22:20] <OerHeks> abysmalweight, then you need something like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/6ByWv.jpg
[22:20] <abysmalweight> OerHeks, it's actually a headset (logitech h110) with two jacks (one red, one green) but I really only want the mic (red) so that is the one i plugged
[22:21] <serverresc> k1l: the boot bails into emergency mode right after that notice (every other job/process reports started successfully); additionally, I can trigger another bailing into emergency mode by running `systemctl restart systemd-resolved`
[22:24] <deezee> I use to have problems with mic and was a variety of reasons
[22:25] <deezee> hunt and peek till it works
[22:27] <serverresc> k1l: and another possibly related issue, it failed a bit earlier in the process because em2 failed to raise, once I commented out em2 in interfaces it proceeded boot to the upstart related messages
[22:31] <alfafabrome> K1l OK fglrx  installed but I don't have a desktop, only a blank black screen on a grub boot to command prompt... What now?
[22:31] <alfafabrome> Or a grub boot
[22:32] <k1l> does nomodeset work?
[22:32] <k1l> is your card supported by the fglrx version from then? you wanted to run 14.04 with fglrx, so i guess it does?
[22:32] <alfafabrome> K1l yes
[22:32] <alfafabrome> Yes
[22:33] <OerHeks> ati 6800 isn't it?
[22:33] <alfafabrome> Radeon 6400/7400
[22:33] <alfafabrome> I am booted to nomodeset now
[22:36] <alfafabrome> K1l where to go now?
[22:37] <scott_tams> d0lzNB74Udfhi7YaRcWsTZ
[22:38] <k1l> alfafabrome: does nomodeset work and boot to a desktop? does it work without?
[22:38] <k1l> alfafabrome: look at dmesg and Xorg.0.log what is going wrong
[22:38] <dgm78> Hi! My Ubuntu/Armbian not connecting wireless on startup... after boot need "killall -q wpa_supplicant && /etc/init.d/networking restart", but these commands not work in rc.local... why?
[22:39] <k1l> dgm78: is this raspbian?
[22:40] <dgm78> kll: not, armbian
[22:41] <k1l> dgm78: look if the armbian guys offer support there. we dont know what they changed to ubuntu
[22:44] <Curiousss> hi, am studying Ethical Hacking and now i want security from all those attacks i know. decided to leave windows and using ubuntu in vm for a while. i want to ask a question that how much hardened i can make ubuntu ?
[22:46] <Curiousss> or should i use any other distribution for general purpose? can i block all onine and local network attacks and all those system hacking attacks in ubuntu? (by means of installing trusted applications that ubuntu provide) ?
[22:47] <OerHeks> Curiousss, depends on many things: if you look for hardening guides, make sure they are written for systemD 16.04 and on
[22:47] <serverrescu> would it be more likely that fstab issue is causing emergency mode more than a networking / ntp issue?
[22:48] <serverrescu> I suspected networking because that's the last thing in the journalctl log - but I also had errors about cryptswap and now I think that partition might not be mounting
[22:48] <OerHeks> check the 'emergencycode'  for details
[22:48] <k1l> serverrescu: yes. systemd is very picky about fstab. much more than upstart. so look at dmesg
[22:49] <serverrescu> OerHeks: how can I do that? 'emergencycode' in terminal says command not found
[22:49] <scootergrisen> If i select danish language during live boot Ubuntu it is in english when Ubuntu desktop is started. Are translations not included in the live ISO so that it does not have to be downloaded/installed in settings?
[22:49] <serverrescu> k1l: aha. great
[22:49] <alfafabrome> K1l fglrx: module verification failed signature or key missing -tainting kernel??? Is this normal?
[22:49] <Walex> scootergrisen: most likely the live CD is fairly small.
[22:49] <k1l> alfafabrome: load that logs to a pastebin and link them here
[22:51] <Curiousss> OerHeks: can you tell me if i can implement some kind of sandbox environment for apps like browsers in ubuntu? or a best approach to stop injected malwares, trojans in web traffic in ubuntu? so i can start from a point to learn about it in my vm before i start using ubuntu as a main OS ?
[22:52] <alfafabrome> K1l http://termbin.com/kapa
[22:52] <serverrescu> my fstab has "swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation" and then a commented out UUID with below: "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" - suspicious?
[22:53] <serverrescu> I'll comment out the /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0 and reboot to see if that does anyhting
[22:54] <scootergrisen> Wales: its 1.6GB (ubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso)
[22:55] <Curiousss> OerHeks: you know i used Qubes for some time and it's an amazing secure OS, but it make my GPU power useless when it comes to cracking with CUDA technology, so i have to consider about an OS that could also utilize my CUDA GPU power. but then i can't see how i secure myself from being hacked from so many type of attacks
[22:56] <scootergrisen> Walex: i just tried selecting Deutsh and that translation is included it seems.
[22:56] <k1l> alfafabrome: there is no error on that boot. look at the old dmesg and Xorg.log in /var/log/ from the boot that didnt work
[22:57] <scootergrisen> Where can i see what languages are included in the live ISO?
[22:58] <serverrescu> Still bailing into emergency mode during boot... I commented out the sda6 entry in fstab, why is it still trying to mount it?
[23:00] <jcjordyn120> I fixed it with boot-repair :D
[23:00] <mcphail> Curiousss: you can use firejail to sandbox apps in a simple manner
[23:02] <Curiousss> mcphail: thank you i am checking it up now :)
[23:03] <alfafabrome> K1l dmesg.0 says failed to spawn thermald main process: unable to execute: no such file or directory.   Last line says init Nvidia main process (1115) terminated with status 127
[23:03] <alfafabrome> Endoflog
[23:06] <serverrescu> the end of journalctl says "no servers can be used, exiting", then emergency mode. is it really caused by ntp? x1l
[23:09] <Curiousss> mcphail: hey thank you, that looks good
[23:10] <MarkB2> I'm running 16.04.1 LTS 64-bit and would like to install NVidia's video driver.  Downloaded the package, learned it wanted X stopped, stopped X using sudo service lightdm stop (that worked), then started the installer.  The installer then outputs a message saying the pre-install script filed and to look at a log file.
[23:10] <MarkB2> Hmm... did that get cut off?
[23:10] <MarkB2> Nope.. did here, though.  Anyway..
[23:11] <MarkB2> I look at the pre-install script and there is a note there that the shell script is there to prevent NVidia from overwriting ubuntu's nvidia driver.
[23:12] <riataman> Hey
[23:13] <riataman> I want to disable usb drives automount
[23:13] <riataman> I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[23:13] <riataman> but is still happening, even after a reboot
[23:13] <riataman> any ideas?
[23:13] <MarkB2> Well, I have two displays on the computer via a near antique 6200 interface, both are showing the same image, and I would like to get a true 2-display system.
[23:14] <MarkB2> xrandr reports it only sees one screen.
[23:17] <vlt> Hello. How can I find out what prevents an umount if `lsof` doesn't contain the name of the mountpoint?
[23:17] <vlt> I get "umount: /home: device is busy." but no user is logged in.
[23:19] <quesker> just installed 12.04 server.  apt-get install nfs-common gives some weird errors about impossible situation
[23:19] <alfafabrome> K1l  how to get this working?
[23:20] <quesker> here are the actual errors    http://paste.ubuntu.com/24037062/
[23:22] <scootergrisen> Where can i se the source code for the ISO desktop live images?
[23:22] <vlt> quesker: apt-get update
[23:23] <vlt> quesker: (12.04 will be EOL soon)
[23:23] <quesker> ok
[23:23] <jpthing> sudo apt-get source <module> <destination>
[23:23] <quesker> I did update and still same errors.  now trying upgrade
[23:23] <quesker> hopefully still at 12.04 after "upgrade"
[23:23] <OerHeks> scootergrisen, 4 discs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.2/release/source/
[23:24] <jpthing> You should always 'update' and the 'upgrade' a OS before using it.
[23:25] <scootergrisen> Can i browse the code online?
[23:25] <quesker> still same errors after both update and upgrade
[23:25] <vlt> quesker: upgrade is safe.
[23:26] <OerHeks> scootergrisen, nope, you can grab your copy
[23:26] <vlt> quesker: I mean it won't change from 12.04.*
[23:26] <quesker> right
[23:27] <scootergrisen> ok i will
[23:30] <quesker> some errors like this from apt-get update   W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[23:32] <vlt> quesker: How did you install?
[23:32] <quesker> from a iso I downloaded from ubuntu
[23:32] <quesker> (in a vm)
[23:32] <quesker> on esxi if that matters
[23:33] <jewel> Hi all, hope everyone's day is going well! Does anyone know how to make it so I can log into SSH on my server without logging into my user profile?
[23:34] <compdoc> jewel, create a new user and password, and make sure the user is in the same groups as you
[23:35] <wedgie> jewel: what do you mean by "profile?"
[23:35] <jewel> Well - when I start my ubuntu server it asks me for my Server login
[23:35] <jewel> if I don't enter my user login, SSH refuses to connect with an authkey
[23:36] <wedgie> jewel: maybe you mean this: instead of ssh <hostname>   you want ssh jewl@<hostname> ??
[23:37] <erekt> i have a problem with shitskins/niggers what can i do?
[23:37] <wedgie> jewel: or are you asking about how to set up keys?
[23:38] <jewel> I have my user's key set up and working properly.
[23:38] <bsmith093> i'm trying to get a script to iterate over every file in a directory, and all subdirectories, but the folders and files are practically guaranteed to have spaces in them. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24037124/ that's what i have, how do i fix it, i keep getting "path must precede expression"
[23:38] <wedgie> bsmith093: better asked in #bash, but you can either use globstar or find -exec
[23:38] <jewel> When logged in from the computer itself, everything works as it should. When not logged into a user, even if I specify the user@hostname or just hostname, I get a connection refused
[23:39] <jewel> the problem is only when I reboot from SSH
[23:39] <wedgie> jewel: so you can't ssh at all? Is sshd running? Does your firewall allow connections to port TCP 22?
[23:40] <quesker> ok here is what I had to do to solve those weird apt-get errors
[23:40] <quesker> I did apt-get clean and then I did rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* and then I did apt-get update again
[23:40] <wedgie> bsmith093: seriously thoug, join #bash and ask there. They can get you sorted out in a jiffy
[23:40] <quesker> found answer on stackexchange
[23:41] <bsmith093> wedgie: k
[23:41] <jewel> When I log into the server physically, I am able to SSH fine. When I try to log in with the server freshly booted, but not logged into a user account, it refuses my connection. I've tried a few stackexchange articles and ubuntu forums pages about the problem, but to no avail
[23:42] <quesker> bsmith093:  answer number 1 here    http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
[23:42] <jewel> I've tried concatenating the authkeys from my user /home/user/.ssh/ directory to my /root/.ssh/ directory
[23:43] <wedgie> jewel: connection refused meas your firewall is blockint it or sshd isn't running.
[23:45] <bsmith093> quesker: will globstar fix it?
[23:46] <jewel> How would I get my server to automatically start the sshd without me physically logging into the computer itself? That's my first route at least - unless not being logged in affects my firewall
[23:46] <quesker> the link tells you how to do it
[23:46] <jewel> I appreciate the help by the way :)
[23:47] <wedgie> bsmith093: if you want to do globstar, ''shopt -s globstar; for file in **/*; do if [[ -f "$file]]; then <the rest>''
[23:47] <wedgie> err, space before ]]
[23:48] <PickledEggs> jewel: sudo systemctl enable sshd
[23:48] <quesker> I just do find . | while read -r f; do something with "*f"
[23:48] <PickledEggs> but it's strange that it would just start when you logged it unless you're manually starting it each time
[23:48] <quesker> oops "$f" I mean
[23:48] <k1l_> jewel: do you have encrypted home folder?
[23:48] <jewel> I do
[23:48] <wedgie> quesker: that's more or less what he is doing, and it will break if there is whitespace or other characters in the file names
[23:49] <jewel> oh wow that might be the problem
[23:49] <quesker> not if you quote it
[23:49] <PickledEggs> k1l_: good thought, I wouldn't have thought of that (at least for a while)
[23:49] <wedgie> what if there is a newline in his filename?
[23:49] <k1l_> jewel: i am sure that is the issue then. since locally logging in mounts it, after that the ssh login works.
[23:49] <quesker> then he is retarded for making such a file  :)
[23:49] <wedgie> quesker: you're assming that he is creating the files.
[23:50] <bsmith093> quesker, wedgie, i'm new to scripting in general, i can mostly read this, and , afaik, in this fileset there will *never* be a newline in the path or name
[23:50] <jewel> is there a way to set it so if the user is not mounted, I can mount it?
[23:50] <bsmith093> because newlines in names is insane!
[23:50] <wedgie> bsmith093: basically with globstar, the **/* will expand to all files and directories. The [[ -f "$file" ]] is ot make sure it is a file. The rest is the same as you've got alreaedy
[23:51] <wedgie> bsmith093: insane, but perfectly legal.
[23:52] <bsmith093> wedgie: forgive my ignorance, like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/24037173/
[23:53] <bsmith093> the "while read r" stuff works fine in the current dir, now i just need it to expand it's scope to all files walking down a certain folder, recursively.
[23:53] <wedgie> you're missing a "then" but other than that looks reasonable
[23:53] <wedgie> missing a "fi" also
[23:54] <bsmith093> where'she fi go, i dont see a place where it's needed?
[23:54] <wedgie> its the end of the "if". So, probably after line 12
[23:55] <jewel> is there a way to change my user mount to an unencrypted one when logged into it or do I have to reinstall the ubuntu server?
[23:56] <bsmith093> wedgie: this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24037184/
[23:56] <quesker> ok I just tested and my solution doesn't work with files with newlines but it works with files with spaces
[23:56] <quesker> (in the name)
[23:57] <bsmith093> quesker: there are also folders with spaces, nearly all of them.
[23:57] <wedgie> bsmith093: looks better. The indentation is a little funny, but that's cosmetic.
[23:57] <quesker> doesn't matter
[23:57] <Dragon64> Jewel, you could cheat and create a new user and then just copy your files over and chown them
[23:57] <bsmith093> wedgie: i pieced this together from smarter people. ;)
[23:58] <jewel> thanks for the idea Dragon!! :)
[23:58] <quesker> make a file with newlines in the name and try to do anything with it...
[23:58] <quesker> bash doesn't seem to handle it well
[23:59] <wedgie> quesker: it handles it just fine if you do it right. And find . | whatever isn't doing it right.
[23:59] <quesker> like I said, try it.  let me know how tab completion works out for you
[23:59] <wedgie> bsmith093: what is line 14 doing?