[00:00] wedgie: soe black magic to pull the first 15 non-blnk lins out and throw them in a csv file. [00:01] bsmith093: unless i'm misunderstanding, that should probably be inside of the "fi" [00:01] becuase you only wnat to do that for files (as opposed to directories) [00:02] haha this is hilarious. only ubuntu bash has problems with the newline file [00:02] that would explain why output.csv was pukin all over my terminal :) [00:02] tried on a real linux and it works fine [00:03] i work with what i have, and seriously, linebreaks in a file name!?!?! [00:03] weird. ps says I am in bash but this isn't real bash. if I exec a new bash it works fine [00:04] quesker: probably dash [00:04] ubuntu/debian uses dash for scripts. [00:04] oh ok [00:05] wedgie: i'm tryingto read these https://uploadfiles.io/4dc111 [00:05] that block at the beginning , into a csv, so i can SQAL it. [00:05] *sql [00:07] hay Wire Shark say that the Permissions are denied i have have look everywhere, i cant seemed to figure it out, Can anyone explain?? [00:08] !info wireshark [00:08] wireshark (source: wireshark): network traffic analyzer - meta-package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.0+g5368c50-1 (yakkety), package size 5 kB, installed size 58 kB [00:08] quesker: basically i want it turned into this "Little Helper","by Sheryl Nantus","X-Files","English","Completed","1999-03-16","1999-03-16","2017-02-18 01:44:55","K+","1","1,030","www.fanfiction.net","https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4/1/","https://www.fanfiction.net/u/3284/Sheryl-Nantus","Sometimes the worst person you want to see when sick is the best..." [00:08] bsmith093: reading up through Summary? [00:08] yes [00:08] what do you mean permissions [00:08] help. any good samaritan can help me with mic connected in combo jack of a laptop but being detected as headphones? [00:08] lol [00:09] it's actually a headset (logitech h110) with two jacks (one red, one green) but I really only want the mic (red) so that is the one i plugged [00:09] but again for every txt file in a folder, recursively, not to hammer the point but thats my current noo issue. [00:09] drone [00:09] just Install Geforce Driver i Literally just had that problem [00:10] The software is on the webpage [00:10] abysmalweight, buy a converter, you need something like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/6ByWv.jpg [00:10] hardwareproblem, not software [00:10] hey, using xubuntu, on resume I get a dialog for "Authenticate" which reads "To update the software catalog, you need to authenticate". Details are Action: org.debian.apt.update-cache. Anyone know how to make it so I don't need to auth every time? [00:11] OerHeks, i went to the shops and couldnt find it. but i dont understand why i just couldnt just connect the mic jack and use it as a mic [00:11] in the same way that you can connect headphones to a microphone input and use em as a mic [00:12] Hi all, Has anyone tried using rpi3 on-board wifi with Ubuntu 16.04? [00:12] http://azuraveyes25.wixsite.com/home [00:12] lmao [00:13] abysmalweight, it is a mic/head combo, so 1 connection more than normal stereo [00:13] any one know how to fix wire shark Permissions?? [00:15] the thing is i only need the microphone from the headset, i am ok with getting the sound from the laptop speaker. So I thought that if I could just plug in the microphone jack I could just use the mic [00:15] Isnt that possible? [00:16] abysmalweight, lolz, you keep asking over and over the same thing [00:17] sorry, I may not be understanding you [00:17] I have finally got fglrx installed. And if I boot with nomodeset I can get to a command line, but I cannot boot to a desktop 1kl has been helping me all day. Can anyone tell me what iam missing now? [00:17] bsmith093: i'm not smart enough. But I'm sure there's a graceful way to do this. Really really suggest asking in #bash [00:17] so it is not possible to just use the microphone of the headset by connecting just the mic jack? [00:17] btw thanks for your help OerHeks [00:18] if only I had spent $5 for a usb one AKDJAKLDSDJK [00:18] more [00:19] OerHeks any ideas? [00:20] is there a way to reset file associations? [00:21] kunwon1 bans people for no reason at all, just thought I'd bring it to your attention === miczac_ is now known as miczac [00:21] AndChat|188244, i have seen k1l and you reinstalling 3.13 and fglrx all day indeed [00:21] hello everyone, I created a list of installed packages with aptitude. can I use this list to install all the packages in a new system? [00:21] maybe time for a fresh install? [00:22] tarball: That likely shouldn't create an issue. Have you considered scripting it for posterity? [00:22] Fresh install would wipe out all we did, wouldn't it? [00:22] elricsfate, I dont know about posterity [00:22] tarball: You can use either basic bash scripting or something like ansible quite easily [00:23] tarball: It means "Do it for the future" [00:24] OerHeks is there a way to install kernel 3.13 and fglrx from binaries? [00:24] tarball: Are you familiar with automation tools like ansible? [00:24] OerHeks, I am just trying a headset I have for my phone (with the 3 layers on the jack like the picture you sent me) but it is only recognised as a headphone. Its mic doesnt work either. So I guess must be a software problem [00:25] elricsfate, not as of now :) but I think I found my answer: https://askubuntu.com/questions/252734/apt-get-mass-install-packages-from-a-file [00:25] AndChat|188244, Didn't you have the original kernel now? .. [00:25] tarball: you might be interested in doing the getting started [00:25] Ansible can handle more than just installing the packages, it can also do things like placing yoiur config files in place. [00:25] elricsfate, ansible looks like a non-ubuntu thingy [00:26] tarball: Ansible is distro agnostic [00:26] OerHeks I am on 3.13 and have fglrx installed but the desktop doesn't load [00:26] It's right there in the repos [00:26] tarball: Do apt-get install ansible [00:26] Hi, I have installed new 16.04 from life CD, but for some reason, apt-update refuse to work. I get all the "403" and "Does not have release". [00:26] Though you'd probably want the updated version [00:26] For some reason, I can install packages, but not update. [00:26] elricsfate, I might do the getting started in a bit :) [00:26] good luck [00:27] Colombo, you rebooted? [00:27] There is proxy, but I have set system-wide proxy and have proxy in my .bashrc file. And I can install packages. [00:27] without the cd [00:27] Seven_Six_Two: several times, this is like third day. It was not enabled in NAS originally, but now it is. [00:27] Columbo, what error do you get when trying to update? [00:27] I tried to clean cache and everything. [00:28] what is the exact command that you're trying to update with [00:28] sudo apt update and sudo apt-get update [00:29] try this one [00:29] Columbi, what error fo you get in return? [00:29] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [00:29] elricsfate, thank you for your hints. ciao! [00:29] Seven_Six_Two: I am telling you that it fails on apt-get update [00:29] tarball: NP, peace out [00:29] Colombo, you're telling me that you did sudo apt update [00:29] which is wrong [00:30] Seven_Six_Two: if you read carefully, you could find out that I tried BOTH. [00:30] sudo apt update works in 16.10 [00:30] or should [00:30] Dragon64, really? [00:31] yes, they rebuilt apt poackage [00:31] Dragon64: Error X forbidden [00:31] you dont need the get anymore [00:31] Lt Colombo [00:31] Columbo, is there more to it than that or not? [00:31] and then X does not have release file, updating from this repository can't be done securely. [00:32] Dragon64: 403 [00:32] I'm thinking the mirror you have been using is having some issues, but why you can install i dont know [00:32] Seven_Six_Two: yes, really, apt is a new api that is supposed to be for end-user, it has graphical output if terminal supports it and everything. [00:33] I will try it to US. Maybe New Zealand is not working or so. [00:33] slick. I'll take a look. thanks [00:33] update, upgrade, dist-upgrade. mic, i command u to work!!! [00:34] maybe [00:34] you can specify it in /etc/apt/sources.list [00:34] I know, not working. [00:35] Does apt need some special proxy? [00:35] kunwon1, perhaps you have a ban in the list that's catching the dude by accident? He's not just trolling. Also LOL @ the nonsense doxing someone did on you. It's all over the net... they'd do more damage if they didn't go so overboard, eh? [00:37] LooCfur: this channel isn't interested in your problems, please let it go [00:38] Columbo, apt should be reaching the net same way everything else on your box does. [00:38] kunwon1, I'm an ass like that. It's more fun to bring it around than evade. It causes more senseless drama. [00:38] Columbo, try specifying a source from kernal.org. its usually fairly stable and fast' [00:39] LooCfur, take it to a private message. Some of us have questions that need answering. === Piper-Off is now known as Monthrect [00:42] solved, so I had to specify proxy in apt.conf as well:/ [00:43] weird, I didnt had to do it on my first machine:/ [00:43] weird, it was done automatically? [00:45] so, can I leave x, go to , say, tty6and from there with my computer on, access grub to turn spalsh screen off? === ilfantomas_ is now known as ilfantomas [00:50] hi [00:50] Is HexChat a safe IRC client to use? [00:50] yes [00:51] ask for more in #hexchat glache [00:51] Is it a noob IRC client? [00:51] glache, there is no reason to ask that here [00:51] 安装cannon lbp 2900打印机，装完之后空有打印进程，不出纸张，有朋友能够解决一下吗 [00:51] glache: /join #hexchat [00:51] alright, ty [00:51] !cn | asus [00:51] asus: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [00:51] asus linuxprinting.org and english here [00:52] ok [00:53] Post again: Hi all, has anyone tried to using the on-board wifi with Ubuntu 16.04 on a RPi3 device? [00:54] linggao, tell us the exact chipset please [00:55] linggao, http://askubuntu.com/questions/775597/how-to-use-onboard-wifi-on-raspberry-pi-3-with-ubuntu-server-16-04 [00:57] has your system ever failed to turn off due to a daemon network, like tor or freenet? [00:57] like, clicking to turn off, and seeing the splash screen [00:57] and nothing else, not shutting down [01:00] bazhang, not sure what you are asking for, it is the Rasberry Pi 3 model B. [01:01] linggao, the exact model of the wifi chip [01:03] pavlos, thanks for the pointer. we will try that. Do you know if it works with the latest kernel (4.4.0-1009-raspi2)? [01:04] Does anyone still use Empathy for chat/IM? Does it work well? [01:05] oh wow havent heard that name for a while [01:06] drjam its deaD? [01:06] is empathy still a thing? [01:06] I guess I haven't used the built in apps for a while either [01:06] No idea [01:06] is it? [01:06] i use rambox [01:06] !info empathy [01:06] empathy (source: empathy): GNOME multi-protocol chat and call client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.12.12-3ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 696 kB, installed size 3387 kB [01:06] DarkPsydeLord whats that do? [01:06] oh so it is [01:06] not sure man, but lots of people are skypers vibers or facebookers [01:06] yeah I use Skype [01:06] I remember having pulse audio issues with my Mic [01:07] I fixed that though [01:07] Had to reet the levels [01:07] well i can add whatsapp irc skype fbmessenger irc clients and several others in the same client [01:07] so pretty much the only thing i use [01:07] bazhang, here is the specification. https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b/ [01:07] where to find SkypeForLinux - Ubuntu - that has video enabled? [01:07] DarkPsydeLord oh its one of those things? [01:07] I do like that [01:08] w9qbj the SKype website no? [01:08] uxfi: also it is open source [01:08] that is good [01:08] Skype.com has old ones, apt-get downs one without video. [01:09] i thought we dont use apt-get anymore [01:09] DarkPsydeLord, what do you use [01:09] apt [01:10] sudo apt install wathevaiwannainstall [01:10] maybe a -y included [01:11] trying it now [01:14] still looks like S4L does not have not video - I'm using 16.04, the old 14.04 did have one that worked. [01:14] wedgie: i keep getting "cannot send to channel" whenever i try and post anything there. [01:14] in #bash [01:14] hey guys.. quick question. I have a server with 2 network cards adn i am pulling in UDP trafffic but its all on eth0.. i want to load balance between eth0 and eth1... so i set routes for certain udp from eth1 and others from eth0.. eth1 not working .. eth0 is ok .. any idea ? [01:15] put em in different processors? [01:17] Prelude2004c: can you show your ifconfig output [01:18] also /etc/network/interfaces: [01:18] http://pastebin.com/raw/wKdXLHLs [01:18] http://pastebin.com/raw/gdufXx2D [01:19] uhm strange i wonder if its the route [01:19] route outputs? [01:20] http://pastebin.com/raw/B9MHjRHW [01:21] they are differnet cards so.. i dont understand why system would not route the second card [01:21] DarkPsydeLord, Thanks, the latest apt did install and now video is working. [01:22] yw w9qbj [01:23] Prelude2004c: did you enabled IP forwarding between your two interfaces on the server? [01:23] hi all quick question, Ive just installed SSH, I removed it from /etc/init.d, also tried to put it to "manual" in ssh.override, but the service keep starting at boot... Where can I remove a service from starting up. [01:23] ip forwarding no.. but why would i do that ? [01:23] its local to the card.. it doesn't actually forward anything [01:23] both cards are setting on a switch with the UDP signal [01:24] oh i got all that wrong then [01:24] normally i would do this when using somethign like pimd or whatever [01:24] no this is straight up , 2 network cards sitting on the same UDP swithc.. eth0 pulls fine and eth1 does not [01:25] lemme think a lil bit about this [01:26] Budhnop: sudo update-rc.d ssh disable [01:27] Budhnop: and this to remove itsudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove [01:28] does anyone here know of a way to disable to auto-mute that kicks in when you lower the volume to 0 via the keyboard? [01:29] anyone else ? i am not getting this [01:29] Prelude2004c: im kind of thinking what do you need to configure but im clueless [01:29] Prelude2004c: it seems everything is working [01:31] actually i got it [01:32] has to do with rp_filter [01:32] echo 2 > rp_filter does it [01:33] o lol [01:33] this goes to the things i have to read about folder [01:37] uhm i see [01:37] DarkPsydeLord > thank you [01:37] sysctl will have that config [01:39] Prelude2004c: yw i did my best now ive learned something new [01:41] DarkPsydeLord; whats up [01:41] hey uxfi waddup [01:42] Hi folks. I have old Ubuntu install on external drive. I want to move the home directory to the new Ubuntu install on internal drive. What's the simplest way to do this, preserving permissions as needed etc? [01:42] I know I should boot off an Ubuntu live USB to do this [01:45] wolftune: never tried this but you should give it a try http://askubuntu.com/questions/812675/moving-home-folder-to-new-installation-of-ubuntu [01:45] i usually have my /home folder on a separate partition [01:46] DarkPsydeLord: incidentally, it was in a seperate partition on the old drive, I just didn't bother doing that partition for the new install [01:47] I used to do that, but more recently I got convinced that it's not really worth it [01:47] that link looks good, came across many that seemed not as good when I was searching [01:47] thanks [01:47] well i do since i share the home folder with other 2 distributions :S [01:48] wouldn't a shared home folder have *some* conflicts in terms of settings that are good for each distro? [01:48] or not really? [01:48] I totally see though how shared home between distros could make sense… [01:50] well if you keep a /home for every distro you will end up messing something in one or other distro [01:50] i point to the same partition under different confs like /home/arch /home/ubuntu [01:50] yeah, I could see how that's worse than a few odd prefs that differ between distros [01:50] ah [01:51] that way i keep everything ordered but available to other distros [01:51] About 2 weeks ago I changed from 14.04 to 16.04, new installation, but kept the same /home partition. The only problems were with my /home/me/bin - till I added the needed /usr/bin that tat some of the scripts pointed to [01:52] Luckily the .x* dir/files didn't give me any problems [01:52] nice [01:53] i kind of like rolling releases but i cant quit ubuntu hahaha [01:59] does lenovo t420 run ubuntu 16.04 well [02:00] http://www.calculate-linux.org/main/en/license [02:02] calculate is a russian distr of gentoo [02:03] sorry wring CH [02:03] wrong* [02:04] Hey guys. I have a quick and easy question for you [02:05] CrypticBash: the answer is 37 [02:05] HAha [02:05] Is this 14.04 netboot http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04/ -- the same as the server version of 14.04? It's been so dang long since I've touched ubuntu lol. [02:06] CrypticBash: could be the desktop edition === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass [02:07] my network connection is slow here @ Starbucks [02:07] I am looking though [02:07] I'm trying to locate a netboot or minimal ISO for v14.04 but can't locate this anywhere. [02:07] server version of v14.04 === gee is now known as Guest84457 [02:09] CrypticBash: I think you can select what you want with the netboot [02:10] Seriously? If that's the case, then it will work perfectly fine. [02:11] I'm not seeing anything that is talking about editions. So I am guessing the installer will offer you the option for desktop or server [02:11] okay, I'm stuck, not happy with other instructions… [02:11] is there a way to copy old home files to new home when new home is encrypted while I am on live USB? [02:12] Sounds good. I'll give it a shot. Thanks xrandr. [02:12] CrypticBash: np [02:12] How do I kill a hung process? [02:12] cipher6: kill -9 [02:12] I've RTFM' but I can't figure out how to get the PID [02:12] xrandr: what's -9? [02:12] cipher6: ps aux |grep process_name [02:13] cipher6: -9 is SIGTERM. Kills the process [02:13] ps aux|grep process_name gave "No such file or dir? [02:13] nvm, got it [02:13] cipher6: substitute the process_name with the name of the program you are looking for [02:13] don't know what i"m looking at though. [02:13] OH [02:13] lol [02:14] the PID is the number in the first column [02:14] Trying to mount a DAV via davfs2. What is this guide not telling me? It doesn't work. http://techiech.blogspot.com/2013/04/mounting-webdav-directory-in-linux.html [02:14] xrandr: I was literally typing out that question, you read my mind [02:14] cyberspectre: What file manager are you using? [02:14] Hey that made it go away! Thanks [02:14] cipher6: no problem :) [02:14] xrandr, nautilus, but doing it via the file manager causes problems [02:15] cyberspectre: why? davs://host/share ie: davs://my.davhost.com/my_files [02:16] xrandr, that works, but when trying to edit files in Atom or Sublime, it crashes [02:17] cyberspectre: permission error most likely on the dav host [02:17] what webdav server are you using? [02:17] xrandr, I can drag and drop files in and out of the DAV through nautilus without issue [02:17] cyberspectre: you might look for something that's not 3 years old! ;) [02:18] xrandr, https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/cannot-open-files-over-the-network-on-linux/8278 [02:18] cipher6, I know... a lot of the other guides are extremely technical. I was hoping it'd be fairly easy [02:19] cyberspectre: if gEdit works, why do you need Atom or Sublime? [02:20] I really prefer to work with a more fully featured text editor [02:20] i actually vim and nano [02:22] cyberspectre: can't say I am really sure. I use webdav, but that's for my cloud server. I don't use Atom or Sublime for it [02:23] hi [02:23] hello iron_heat [02:23] hi! [02:23] Please state the nature of your Ubuntu Emergency [02:23] what?? [02:23] me? [02:23] eh, nevermind. Kind of a joke :) [02:24] hahahaha ok [02:24] iron_heat: if you were a Star Trek Voyager fan, you'd get the reference :P [02:24] anyway. what's up iron_heat [02:25] Hahaha! why do you say that? :v [02:25] * xrandr looks inquisitively at iron_heat [02:26] Okay thank you xrandr [02:26] cyberspectre: no problem. WIsh I could have been more help. I am just not familiar with the software you are using. [02:26] where they are [02:26] na [02:26] iron_heat: O.o [02:27] 7.7 [02:27] oooookaaaaaay [02:27] moving right along [02:27] 101011111010100101101010100101000010101010011101101010 [02:28] yes [02:28] Well I think I am going to make my way home [02:28] and hang out with my kitten [02:28] o good [02:29] usa? [02:29] yes [02:29] do you like to cook === doc|work_ is now known as doc|work [02:31] https://supermarket.chef.io/cookbooks/ubuntu [02:31] grinn [02:38] How can I run the below automatically when server restarts? Running Ubuntu 16.04 [02:38] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3FC1tQYl/ === souravbadami1 is now known as souravbadami [02:38] Vustom: simplest might be to put it in a script and put it in cron with @reboot [02:41] So I'd run crontab -e, put those commands with @reboot in front and run systemctl enable crond.service? [02:46] Are ubuntu and debian package names same? [02:48] newcoder: if they're in the same repository [02:50] sometimes when i open the gtk save dialog, it randomly opens abiword [02:50] idk how to debug [02:52] howdy howdy === al2o3-cr_ is now known as al2o3-cr [02:55] hi James_Freewall [02:55] sup d00d [02:56] not much just chillin before my super meatboy session === Agent is now known as SonicTheNoLastna [02:59] Nice man, you pretty good at super meatboy? Shit's rough man. === SonicTheNoLastna is now known as SonicTheEnchilad [03:07] How to find the channel list? [03:07] not really an Ubuntu question - but type /list [03:07] Thanks [03:07] !alis | AndChat|188244 [03:07] AndChat|188244: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [03:08] !alis [03:08] Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" === rhughes is now known as squatchy1 [03:09] Bashing-om: Thanks! I actually didn't know about that - seems much easier than the giant list you get from /list [03:11] PickledEggs: Not to say getting kicked for flooding the channel from that long list output :) === leonidas_ is now known as Guest70473 [03:32] been using solely mac os since 1999. two weeks ago bought new dell xps 15 with win 10. finally converted back to win machine. less than two weeks after purchase, erase installed ubuntu mate. not even two weeks on windows again. [03:32] i'm trying to access a web server on port 9090 on ubuntu server. ufw is disabled but the port is still blocked [03:32] haven't really used linux for more than 2 weeks at a time over the years. thanks for all you do to support the wonderful community that made this install doable for me and easeful to customize. [03:36] calmlb, i also like linux however i think im going the kde route next rather than unity === magicalChicken_ is now known as magicalChicken [03:36] and im not sure how well linux will do on this (surface pro - the toutchscreen issue) [03:37] use toutchscreen alot on this ... no mouse.. only touchpad and screen === ilfantomas_ is now known as ilfantomas [04:00] TheMarius, would do some searching on the particular surface pro to see if there is multitouch support for that model, there are some multitouch modules in the kernel but depends on the particular hardware [04:06] I want to run Ubuntu from Windows, which is my primary OS. Planning to use Virtualbox. Which version should I install? [04:07] KalEl, what do you want Ubuntu in virtual box for? [04:08] KalEl, just asking cause would guide to say which one you should probably grab/install [04:08] I generally like the linux platform (I have it in work). I will mostly use it for writing codes, may be python and c++. [04:09] KalEl, so you want to have a desktop environment that rules out server edition, other choice is particular version, 16.04 is the latest LTS next one with be 18.04, if you want newer software than came out with the april 2016 release you'd go a newer version number but means more frequent upgrades [04:09] Won't need a lot of GUI, just a clean interface and terminal mostly I suppose. [04:10] KalEl, regarding desktop environment flavors that just depends on preference and hardware you have available to throw at it [04:10] I got a 4790k in the host machine with 32GB DDR3 and nVidia GPU [04:11] If you want something lightweight and simple maybe Mate, Lubuntu, XFCE, the machine can handle whatever though, Gnome3 or KDE Plasma are typically more resource heavy but include more animations and blending [04:11] or of course Unity the "default" if you like that [04:11] Thanks [04:11] wafflejock, apparently it works well on surface [04:12] not the chrome browser though which i use [04:12] TheMarius, ah good to here... hmm bummer on the second part though [04:12] Will probably go with Gnome then [04:12] dpi issues or something? [04:12] KalEl, that's my preference :) [04:12] idk ... firefox seems to need a plugin for toutchscreen support under linux aswell [04:12] How much space should I set aside for the system? [04:13] I mean HDD space [04:13] guess its because linux is separate programs running on top of eachother, more than a unified "soup" like windows [04:13] KalEl, Usually I give it at least 40GB with the virtual disks where it grows as it needs it, usually the system itself is like 20GB but if you have a big HDD more is "safer" for growing [04:13] I will need all compilers, vim, say emacs if I ever want to try evil... some lightweight GUI editor, and a good browser (Chrome?) [04:14] TheMarius: gnome seems to be the desktop more focused to touchscreen [04:14] we'll see.. it works fine for now [04:14] (win on this machine) [04:14] i have a desktop too though that runs linux [04:14] and its perfect for that machine [04:15] I would switch to a native linux system if not for games. May be one day [04:15] I really use nothing else on Windows. Sigh. [04:15] steam is getting pretty descent gaming options for linux [04:15] A lot of major titles still are specific. Witcher 3 for example. Sigh [04:16] yeah if youre a dedicated gamer win is still the way to go, i game on ps4 though and i only really bother playing battlefield [04:16] KalEl, yeah I have a desktop for that stuff and straight Ubuntu on my laptop, steam is helping with the game situation some though [04:17] If I get a Laptop, ubuntu (or something similar) will be my choice too by a wide margin [04:17] use arch lol [04:17] O:-) [04:17] KalEl, I just checked I'm using 70GB for system type stuff but that includes some docker images and mongodb and lots of web projects, have another 150GB in my home but that's just virtual box images and downloads I need to clean up and some SDK stuff [04:17] May be 50 or 100GB then [04:17] thanks [04:19] Lastly, my earlier VDI (20gb) doesn't seem to allow me to upgrade the ubuntu installation. I think it's 15.04... [04:19] I will probably delete and reinstall then. I will need to transfer my home directory I suppose [04:21] not sure if that is EOL but this might help if you want to upgrade [04:21] I will "tar -cvzf ~" and copy it over to host? [04:21] !eolupgrade | KalEl [04:21] KalEl: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [04:22] Hi, I'm having a issue, composing mail on kmail, I cant get autocomplete of email. I'm using Kmail 5.2.5 ; plama 5.8.5, KUBUNTU 16.10, ... any help please [04:22] !15.04 | KalEl [04:22] KalEl: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid [04:22] Hmm looks a little hacky. May be I will go for a cleaner installation [04:23]