[00:00] <bsmith093> wedgie: soe black magic to pull the first 15 non-blnk lins out and throw them in a csv file.
[00:01] <wedgie> bsmith093: unless i'm misunderstanding, that should probably be inside of the "fi"
[00:01] <wedgie> becuase you only wnat to do that for files (as opposed to directories)
[00:02] <quesker> haha this is hilarious.  only ubuntu bash has problems with the newline file
[00:02] <bsmith093> that would explain why output.csv was pukin all over my terminal :)
[00:02] <quesker> tried on a real linux and it works fine
[00:03] <bsmith093> i work with what i have, and seriously, linebreaks in a file name!?!?!
[00:03] <quesker> weird.  ps says I am in bash but this isn't real bash. if I exec a new bash it works fine
[00:04] <wedgie> quesker: probably dash
[00:04] <k1l_> ubuntu/debian uses dash for scripts.
[00:04] <quesker> oh ok
[00:05] <bsmith093> wedgie: i'm tryingto read these https://uploadfiles.io/4dc111
[00:05] <bsmith093> that block at the beginning , into a csv, so i can SQAL it.
[00:05] <bsmith093> *sql
[00:07] <azuraveyes> hay Wire Shark say that the Permissions are denied i have have look everywhere, i cant seemed to figure it out, Can anyone explain??
[00:08] <bazhang> !info wireshark
[00:08] <bsmith093> quesker: basically i want it turned into this "Little Helper","by Sheryl Nantus","X-Files","English","Completed","1999-03-16","1999-03-16","2017-02-18 01:44:55","K+","1","1,030","www.fanfiction.net","https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4/1/","https://www.fanfiction.net/u/3284/Sheryl-Nantus","Sometimes the worst person you want to see when sick is the best..."
[00:08] <wedgie> bsmith093: reading up through Summary?
[00:08] <bsmith093> yes
[00:08] <bazhang> what do you mean permissions
[00:08] <abysmalweight> help. any good samaritan can help me with mic connected in combo jack of a laptop but being detected as headphones?
[00:08] <azuraveyes> lol
[00:09] <abysmalweight> it's actually a headset (logitech h110) with two jacks (one red, one green) but I really only want the mic (red) so that is the one i plugged
[00:09] <bsmith093> but again for every txt file in a folder, recursively, not to hammer the point but thats my current noo issue.
[00:09] <azuraveyes> drone
[00:09] <azuraveyes> just Install Geforce Driver i Literally just had that problem
[00:10] <azuraveyes> The software is on the webpage
[00:10] <OerHeks> abysmalweight, buy a converter, you need something like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/6ByWv.jpg
[00:10] <OerHeks> hardwareproblem, not software
[00:10] <doc|work> hey, using xubuntu, on resume I get a dialog for "Authenticate" which reads "To update the software catalog, you need to authenticate". Details are Action: org.debian.apt.update-cache. Anyone know how to make it so I don't need to auth every time?
[00:11] <abysmalweight> OerHeks, i went to the shops and couldnt find it. but i dont understand why i just couldnt just connect the mic jack and use it as a mic
[00:11] <abysmalweight> in the same way that you can connect headphones to a microphone input and use em as a mic
[00:12] <linggao> Hi all,  Has anyone tried using rpi3 on-board wifi with Ubuntu 16.04?
[00:12] <azuraveyes> http://azuraveyes25.wixsite.com/home
[00:12] <azuraveyes> lmao
[00:13] <OerHeks> abysmalweight, it is a mic/head combo, so 1 connection more than normal stereo
[00:13] <azuraveyes> any one know how to fix wire shark Permissions??
[00:15] <abysmalweight> the thing is i only need the microphone from the headset, i am ok with getting the sound from the laptop speaker. So I thought that if I could just plug in the microphone jack I could just use the mic
[00:15] <abysmalweight> Isnt that possible?
[00:16] <OerHeks> abysmalweight, lolz, you keep asking over and over the same thing
[00:17] <abysmalweight> sorry, I may not be understanding you
[00:17] <AndChat|188244> I have  finally got fglrx installed. And if I boot with nomodeset I can get to a command line, but I cannot boot to a desktop 1kl has been helping me all day.  Can anyone tell me what iam missing now?
[00:17] <wedgie> bsmith093: i'm not smart enough. But I'm sure there's a graceful way to do this. Really really suggest asking in #bash
[00:17] <abysmalweight> so it is not possible to just use the microphone of the headset by connecting just the mic jack?
[00:17] <abysmalweight> btw thanks for your help OerHeks
[00:18] <abysmalweight> if only I had spent $5 for a usb one AKDJAKLDSDJK
[00:18] <abysmalweight> more
[00:19] <AndChat|188244>  OerHeks any ideas?
[00:20] <salamanderrake> is there a way to reset file associations?
[00:21] <LooCfur> kunwon1 bans people for no reason at all, just thought I'd bring it to your attention
[00:21] <OerHeks> AndChat|188244,  i have seen k1l and you reinstalling 3.13 and fglrx all day indeed
[00:21] <tarball> hello everyone, I created a list of installed packages with aptitude. can I use this list to install all the packages in a new system?
[00:21] <OerHeks> maybe time for a fresh install?
[00:22] <elricsfate> tarball: That likely shouldn't create an issue. Have you considered scripting it for posterity?
[00:22] <AndChat|188244> Fresh install would wipe out all we did, wouldn't it?
[00:22] <tarball> elricsfate, I dont know about posterity
[00:22] <elricsfate> tarball: You can use either basic bash scripting or something like ansible quite easily
[00:23] <elricsfate> tarball: It means "Do it for the future"
[00:24] <AndChat|188244> OerHeks is  there a way to install kernel 3.13 and fglrx from binaries?
[00:24] <elricsfate> tarball: Are you familiar with automation tools like ansible?
[00:24] <abysmalweight> OerHeks, I am just trying a headset I have for my phone (with the 3 layers on the jack like the picture you sent me) but it is only recognised as a headphone. Its mic doesnt work either. So I guess must be a software problem
[00:25] <tarball> elricsfate, not as of now :) but I think I found my answer: https://askubuntu.com/questions/252734/apt-get-mass-install-packages-from-a-file
[00:25] <OerHeks> AndChat|188244, Didn't you have the original kernel now? ..
[00:25] <elricsfate> tarball: you might be interested in doing the getting started
[00:25] <elricsfate> Ansible can handle more than just installing the packages, it can also do things like placing yoiur config files in place.
[00:25] <tarball> elricsfate, ansible looks like a non-ubuntu thingy
[00:26] <elricsfate> tarball: Ansible is distro agnostic
[00:26] <AndChat|188244> OerHeks I am on 3.13 and have fglrx installed but the desktop doesn't load
[00:26] <elricsfate> It's right there in the repos
[00:26] <elricsfate> tarball: Do apt-get install ansible
[00:26] <Colombo> Hi, I have installed new 16.04 from life CD, but for some reason, apt-update refuse to work. I get all the "403" and "Does not have release".
[00:26] <elricsfate> Though you'd probably want the updated version
[00:26] <Colombo> For some reason, I can install packages, but not update.
[00:26] <tarball> elricsfate, I might do the getting started in a bit :)
[00:26] <elricsfate> good luck
[00:27] <Seven_Six_Two> Colombo, you rebooted?
[00:27] <Colombo> There is proxy, but I have set system-wide proxy and have proxy in my .bashrc file. And I can install packages.
[00:27] <Seven_Six_Two> without the cd
[00:27] <Colombo> Seven_Six_Two: several times, this is like third day. It was not enabled in NAS originally, but now it is.
[00:27] <Dragon64> Columbo, what error do you get when trying to update?
[00:27] <Colombo> I tried to clean cache and everything.
[00:28] <Seven_Six_Two> what is the exact command that you're trying to update with
[00:28] <Colombo> sudo apt update and sudo apt-get update
[00:29] <Seven_Six_Two> try this one
[00:29] <Dragon64> Columbi, what error fo you get in return?
[00:29] <Seven_Six_Two> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:29] <tarball> elricsfate, thank you for your hints. ciao!
[00:29] <Colombo> Seven_Six_Two: I am telling you that it fails on apt-get update
[00:29] <elricsfate> tarball: NP, peace out
[00:29] <Seven_Six_Two> Colombo, you're telling me that you did        sudo apt update
[00:29] <Seven_Six_Two> which is wrong
[00:30] <Colombo> Seven_Six_Two: if you read carefully, you could find out that I tried BOTH.
[00:30] <Dragon64> sudo apt update works in 16.10
[00:30] <Dragon64> or should
[00:30] <Seven_Six_Two> Dragon64, really?
[00:31] <Dragon64>  yes, they rebuilt apt poackage
[00:31] <Colombo> Dragon64:  Error X forbidden
[00:31] <Dragon64> you dont need the get anymore
[00:31] <uxfi> Lt Colombo
[00:31] <Dragon64> Columbo, is there more to it than that or not?
[00:31] <Colombo> and then X does not have release file, updating from this repository can't be done securely.
[00:32] <Colombo> Dragon64: 403
[00:32] <Dragon64> I'm thinking the mirror you have been using is having some issues, but why you can install i dont know
[00:32] <Colombo> Seven_Six_Two: yes, really, apt is a new api that is supposed to be for end-user, it has graphical output if terminal supports it and everything.
[00:33] <Colombo> I will try it to US. Maybe New Zealand is not working or so.
[00:33] <Seven_Six_Two> slick. I'll take a look. thanks
[00:33] <abysmalweight> update, upgrade, dist-upgrade. mic, i command u to work!!!
[00:34] <Dragon64> maybe
[00:34] <Dragon64> you can specify it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:34] <Colombo> I know, not working.
[00:35] <Colombo> Does apt need some special proxy?
[00:35] <LooCfur> kunwon1, perhaps you have a ban in the list that's catching the dude by accident? He's not just trolling. Also LOL @ the nonsense doxing someone did on you. It's all over the net... they'd do more damage if they didn't go so overboard, eh?
[00:37] <kunwon1> LooCfur: this channel isn't interested in your problems, please let it go
[00:38] <Dragon64> Columbo, apt should be reaching the net same way everything else on your box does.
[00:38] <LooCfur> kunwon1, I'm an ass like that. It's more fun to bring it around than evade.  It causes more senseless drama.
[00:38] <Dragon64> Columbo, try specifying a source from kernal.org. its usually fairly stable and fast'
[00:39] <doc|work> LooCfur, take it to a private message. Some of us have questions that need answering.
[00:42] <Colombo> solved, so I had to specify proxy in apt.conf as well:/
[00:43] <Colombo> weird, I didnt had to do it on my first machine:/
[00:43] <Colombo> weird, it was done automatically?
[00:45] <lerner> so, can I leave x, go to , say, tty6and from there with my computer on, access grub to turn spalsh screen off?
[00:50] <glache> hi
[00:50] <glache> Is HexChat a safe IRC client to use?
[00:50] <bazhang> yes
[00:51] <bazhang> ask for more in #hexchat glache
[00:51] <glache> Is it a noob IRC client?
[00:51] <bazhang> glache, there is no reason to ask that here
[00:51] <asus> 安装cannon lbp 2900打印机，装完之后空有打印进程，不出纸张，有朋友能够解决一下吗
[00:51] <salamanderrake> glache: /join #hexchat
[00:51] <glache> alright, ty
[00:51] <pavlos> !cn | asus
[00:51] <bazhang> asus linuxprinting.org and english here
[00:52] <asus> ok
[00:53] <linggao> Post again: Hi all,  has anyone tried to using the on-board wifi with Ubuntu 16.04 on a RPi3 device?
[00:54] <bazhang> linggao, tell us the exact chipset please
[00:55] <pavlos> linggao, http://askubuntu.com/questions/775597/how-to-use-onboard-wifi-on-raspberry-pi-3-with-ubuntu-server-16-04
[00:57] <lerner> has your system ever failed to turn off due to a daemon network, like tor or freenet?
[00:57] <lerner> like, clicking to turn off, and seeing the splash screen
[00:57] <lerner> and nothing else, not shutting down
[01:00] <linggao> bazhang, not sure what you are asking for, it is the Rasberry Pi 3 model B.
[01:01] <bazhang> linggao, the exact model of the wifi chip
[01:03] <linggao> pavlos, thanks for the pointer. we will try that. Do you know if it works with the latest kernel (4.4.0-1009-raspi2)?
[01:04] <uxfi> Does anyone still use Empathy for chat/IM? Does it work well?
[01:05] <drjam> oh wow havent heard that name for a while
[01:06] <uxfi> drjam its deaD?
[01:06] <DarkPsydeLord> is empathy still a thing?
[01:06] <uxfi> I guess I haven't used the built in apps for a while either
[01:06] <uxfi> No idea
[01:06] <uxfi> is it?
[01:06] <DarkPsydeLord> i use rambox
[01:06] <bazhang> !info empathy
[01:06] <uxfi> DarkPsydeLord  whats that do?
[01:06] <uxfi> oh so it is
[01:06] <drjam> not sure man, but lots of people are skypers vibers or facebookers
[01:06] <uxfi> yeah I use Skype
[01:06] <uxfi> I remember having pulse audio issues with my Mic
[01:07] <uxfi> I fixed that though
[01:07] <uxfi> Had to reet the levels
[01:07] <DarkPsydeLord> well i can add whatsapp irc skype fbmessenger irc clients and several others in the same client
[01:07] <DarkPsydeLord> so pretty much the only thing i use
[01:07] <linggao> bazhang, here is the specification. https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b/
[01:07] <w9qbj>  where to find SkypeForLinux - Ubuntu - that has video enabled?
[01:07] <uxfi> DarkPsydeLord  oh its one of those things?
[01:07] <uxfi> I do like that
[01:08] <uxfi> w9qbj  the SKype website no?
[01:08] <DarkPsydeLord> uxfi: also it is open source
[01:08] <uxfi> that is good
[01:08] <w9qbj> Skype.com has old ones, apt-get downs one without video.
[01:09] <DarkPsydeLord> i thought we dont use apt-get anymore
[01:09] <w9qbj> DarkPsydeLord, what do you use
[01:09] <DarkPsydeLord> apt
[01:10] <DarkPsydeLord> sudo apt install wathevaiwannainstall
[01:10] <DarkPsydeLord> maybe a -y included
[01:11] <w9qbj> trying it now
[01:14] <w9qbj> still looks like S4L does not have not video - I'm using 16.04, the old 14.04 did have one that worked.
[01:14] <bsmith093> wedgie: i keep getting "cannot send to channel" whenever i try and post anything there.
[01:14] <bsmith093> in #bash
[01:14] <Prelude2004c> hey guys.. quick question. I have a server with 2 network cards adn i am pulling in UDP trafffic but its all on eth0.. i want to load balance between eth0 and eth1... so i set routes for certain udp from eth1 and others from eth0.. eth1 not working .. eth0 is ok .. any idea ?
[01:15] <DarkPsydeLord> put em in different processors?
[01:17] <DarkPsydeLord> Prelude2004c: can you show your ifconfig output
[01:18] <DarkPsydeLord> also /etc/network/interfaces:
[01:18] <Prelude2004c> http://pastebin.com/raw/wKdXLHLs
[01:18] <Prelude2004c> http://pastebin.com/raw/gdufXx2D
[01:19] <DarkPsydeLord> uhm strange i wonder if its the route
[01:19] <DarkPsydeLord> route outputs?
[01:20] <Prelude2004c> http://pastebin.com/raw/B9MHjRHW
[01:21] <Prelude2004c> they are differnet cards so.. i dont understand why system would  not route the second card
[01:21] <w9qbj> DarkPsydeLord,   Thanks, the latest apt did install and now video is working.
[01:22] <DarkPsydeLord> yw w9qbj
[01:23] <DarkPsydeLord> Prelude2004c: did you enabled IP forwarding between your two interfaces on the server?
[01:23] <Budhnop> hi all quick question, Ive just installed SSH, I removed it from /etc/init.d, also tried to put it to "manual" in ssh.override, but the service keep starting at boot... Where can I remove a service from starting up.
[01:23] <Prelude2004c> ip forwarding no.. but why would i do that ?
[01:23] <Prelude2004c> its local to the card.. it doesn't actually forward anything
[01:23] <Prelude2004c> both cards are setting on a switch with the UDP signal
[01:24] <DarkPsydeLord> oh i got all that wrong then
[01:24] <Prelude2004c> normally i would do this when using somethign like pimd or whatever
[01:24] <Prelude2004c> no this is straight up ,  2 network cards sitting on the same UDP swithc.. eth0 pulls fine and eth1 does not
[01:25] <DarkPsydeLord> lemme think a lil bit about this
[01:26] <DarkPsydeLord> Budhnop: sudo update-rc.d ssh disable
[01:27] <DarkPsydeLord> Budhnop: and this to remove itsudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove
[01:28] <mlw> does anyone here know of a way to disable to auto-mute that kicks in when you lower the volume to 0 via the keyboard?
[01:29] <Prelude2004c> anyone else ? i am not getting this
[01:29] <DarkPsydeLord> Prelude2004c: im kind of thinking what do you need to configure but im clueless
[01:29] <DarkPsydeLord> Prelude2004c: it seems everything is working
[01:31] <Prelude2004c> actually i got it
[01:32] <Prelude2004c> has to do with rp_filter
[01:32] <Prelude2004c> echo 2 > rp_filter does it
[01:33] <DarkPsydeLord> o lol
[01:33] <DarkPsydeLord> this goes to the things i have to read about folder
[01:37] <DarkPsydeLord> uhm i see
[01:37] <Prelude2004c> DarkPsydeLord > thank you
[01:37] <DarkPsydeLord> sysctl will have that config
[01:39] <DarkPsydeLord> Prelude2004c: yw i did my best now ive learned something new
[01:41] <uxfi> DarkPsydeLord;  whats up
[01:41] <DarkPsydeLord> hey uxfi waddup
[01:42] <wolftune> Hi folks. I have old Ubuntu install on external drive. I want to move the home directory to the new Ubuntu install on internal drive. What's the simplest way to do this, preserving permissions as needed etc?
[01:42] <wolftune> I know I should boot off an Ubuntu live USB to do this
[01:45] <DarkPsydeLord> wolftune: never tried this but you should give it a try  http://askubuntu.com/questions/812675/moving-home-folder-to-new-installation-of-ubuntu
[01:45] <DarkPsydeLord> i usually have my /home folder on a separate partition
[01:46] <wolftune> DarkPsydeLord: incidentally, it was in a seperate partition on the old drive, I just didn't bother doing that partition for the new install
[01:47] <wolftune> I used to do that, but more recently I got convinced that it's not really worth it
[01:47] <wolftune> that link looks good, came across many that seemed not as good when I was searching
[01:47] <wolftune> thanks
[01:47] <DarkPsydeLord> well i do since i share the home folder with other 2 distributions :S
[01:48] <wolftune> wouldn't a shared home folder have *some* conflicts in terms of settings that are good for each distro?
[01:48] <wolftune> or not really?
[01:48] <wolftune> I totally see though how shared home between distros could make sense…
[01:50] <DarkPsydeLord> well if you keep a /home for every distro you will end up messing something in one or other distro
[01:50] <DarkPsydeLord> i point to the same partition under different confs like /home/arch /home/ubuntu
[01:50] <wolftune> yeah, I could see how that's worse than a few odd prefs that differ between distros
[01:50] <wolftune> ah
[01:51] <DarkPsydeLord> that way i keep everything ordered but available to other distros
[01:51] <w9qbj> About 2 weeks ago I changed from 14.04 to 16.04, new installation, but kept the same /home partition. The only problems were with my /home/me/bin  - till I added the needed /usr/bin that tat some of the scripts pointed to
[01:52] <w9qbj> Luckily the .x* dir/files didn't give me any problems
[01:52] <DarkPsydeLord> nice
[01:53] <DarkPsydeLord> i kind of like rolling releases but i cant quit ubuntu hahaha
[01:59] <mguy> does lenovo t420 run ubuntu 16.04 well
[02:00] <bel_ki> http://www.calculate-linux.org/main/en/license
[02:02] <bel_ki> calculate is a russian distr of gentoo
[02:03] <bel_ki> sorry wring CH
[02:03] <bel_ki> wrong*
[02:04] <CrypticBash> Hey guys. I have a quick and easy question for you
[02:05] <xrandr> CrypticBash: the answer is 37
[02:05] <CrypticBash> HAha
[02:05] <CrypticBash> Is this 14.04 netboot http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04/ -- the same as the server version of 14.04? It's been so dang long since I've touched ubuntu lol.
[02:06] <xrandr> CrypticBash: could be the desktop edition
[02:07] <xrandr> my network connection is slow here @ Starbucks
[02:07] <xrandr> I am looking though
[02:07] <CrypticBash> I'm trying to locate a netboot or minimal ISO for v14.04 but can't locate this anywhere.
[02:07] <CrypticBash> server version of v14.04
[02:09] <xrandr> CrypticBash: I think you can select what you want with the netboot
[02:10] <CrypticBash> Seriously? If that's the case, then it will work perfectly fine.
[02:11] <xrandr> I'm not seeing anything that is talking about editions. So I am guessing the installer will offer you the option for desktop or server
[02:11] <wolftune> okay, I'm stuck, not happy with other instructions…
[02:11] <wolftune> is there a way to copy old home files to new home when new home is encrypted while I am on live USB?
[02:12] <CrypticBash> Sounds good. I'll give it a shot. Thanks xrandr.
[02:12] <xrandr> CrypticBash: np
[02:12] <cipher6> How do I kill a hung process?
[02:12] <xrandr> cipher6: kill -9 <process id>
[02:12] <cipher6> I've RTFM' but I can't figure out how to get the PID
[02:12] <cipher6> xrandr: what's -9?
[02:12] <xrandr> cipher6: ps aux |grep process_name
[02:13] <xrandr> cipher6: -9 is SIGTERM. Kills the process
[02:13] <cipher6> ps aux|grep process_name gave "No such file or dir?
[02:13] <cipher6> nvm, got it
[02:13] <xrandr> cipher6: substitute the process_name with the name of the program you are looking for
[02:13] <cipher6> don't know what i"m looking at though.
[02:13] <cipher6> OH
[02:13] <cipher6> lol
[02:14] <xrandr> the PID is the number in the first column
[02:14] <cyberspectre> Trying to mount a DAV via davfs2. What is this guide not telling me? It doesn't work. http://techiech.blogspot.com/2013/04/mounting-webdav-directory-in-linux.html
[02:14] <cipher6> xrandr: I was literally typing out that question, you read my mind
[02:14] <xrandr> cyberspectre: What file manager are you using?
[02:14] <cipher6> Hey that made it go away! Thanks
[02:14] <xrandr> cipher6: no problem :)
[02:14] <cyberspectre> xrandr, nautilus, but doing it via the file manager causes problems
[02:15] <xrandr> cyberspectre: why?  davs://host/share   ie:  davs://my.davhost.com/my_files
[02:16] <cyberspectre> xrandr, that works, but when trying to edit files in Atom or Sublime, it crashes
[02:17] <xrandr> cyberspectre: permission error most likely on the dav host
[02:17] <xrandr> what webdav server are you using?
[02:17] <cyberspectre> xrandr, I can drag and drop files in and out of the DAV through nautilus without issue
[02:17] <cipher6> cyberspectre: you might look for something that's not 3 years old! ;)
[02:18] <cyberspectre> xrandr, https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/cannot-open-files-over-the-network-on-linux/8278
[02:18] <cyberspectre> cipher6, I know... a lot of the other guides are extremely technical. I was hoping it'd be fairly easy
[02:19] <xrandr> cyberspectre: if gEdit works, why do you need Atom or Sublime?
[02:20] <cyberspectre> I really prefer to work with a more fully featured text editor
[02:20] <DarkPsydeLord> i actually vim and nano
[02:22] <xrandr> cyberspectre: can't say I am really sure. I use webdav, but that's for my cloud server. I don't use Atom or Sublime for it
[02:23] <iron_heat> hi
[02:23] <xrandr> hello iron_heat
[02:23] <iron_heat> hi!
[02:23] <xrandr> Please state the nature of your Ubuntu Emergency
[02:23] <iron_heat> what??
[02:23] <iron_heat> me?
[02:23] <xrandr> eh, nevermind. Kind of a joke :)
[02:24] <iron_heat> hahahaha ok
[02:24] <xrandr> iron_heat: if you were a Star Trek Voyager fan, you'd get the reference :P
[02:24] <xrandr> anyway. what's up iron_heat
[02:25] <iron_heat> Hahaha! why do you say that? :v
[02:25]  * xrandr looks inquisitively at iron_heat
[02:26] <cyberspectre> Okay thank you xrandr
[02:26] <xrandr> cyberspectre: no problem. WIsh I could have been more help. I am just not familiar with the software you are using.
[02:26] <iron_heat> where they are
[02:26] <iron_heat> na
[02:26] <xrandr> iron_heat: O.o
[02:27] <iron_heat> 7.7
[02:27] <xrandr> oooookaaaaaay
[02:27] <xrandr> moving right along
[02:27] <iron_heat> 101011111010100101101010100101000010101010011101101010
[02:28] <iron_heat> yes
[02:28] <xrandr> Well I think I am going to make my way home
[02:28] <xrandr> and hang out with my kitten
[02:28] <iron_heat> o good
[02:29] <iron_heat> usa?
[02:29] <xrandr> yes
[02:29] <iron_heat> do you like to cook
[02:31] <OerHeks> https://supermarket.chef.io/cookbooks/ubuntu
[02:31] <OerHeks> grinn
[02:38] <Vustom> How can I run the below automatically when server restarts? Running Ubuntu 16.04
[02:38] <Vustom> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3FC1tQYl/
[02:38] <wedgie> Vustom: simplest might be to put it in a script and put it in cron with @reboot
[02:41] <Vustom> So I'd run crontab -e, put those commands with @reboot in front and run systemctl enable crond.service?
[02:46] <newcoder> Are ubuntu and debian package names same?
[02:48] <cipher6> newcoder: if they're in the same repository
[02:50] <et09> sometimes when i open the gtk save dialog, it randomly opens abiword
[02:50] <et09> idk how to debug
[02:52] <James_Freewall> howdy howdy
[02:55] <DarkPsydeLord> hi James_Freewall
[02:55] <James_Freewall> sup d00d
[02:56] <DarkPsydeLord> not much just chillin before my super meatboy session
[02:59] <CrypticBash> Nice man, you pretty good at super meatboy? Shit's rough man.
[03:07] <AndChat|188244> How to find the channel list?
[03:07] <PickledEggs> not really an Ubuntu question - but type /list
[03:07] <AndChat|188244> Thanks
[03:07] <Bashing-om> !alis | AndChat|188244
[03:08] <AndChat|188244> !alis
[03:09] <PickledEggs> Bashing-om: Thanks! I actually didn't know about that - seems much easier than the giant list you get from /list
[03:11] <Bashing-om> PickledEggs: Not to say getting kicked for flooding the channel from that long list output :)
[03:32] <calmlb> been using solely mac os since 1999. two weeks ago bought new dell xps 15 with win 10. finally converted back to win machine. less than two weeks after purchase, erase installed ubuntu mate. not even two weeks on windows again.
[03:32] <ljc> i'm trying to access a web server on port 9090 on ubuntu server. ufw is disabled but the port is still blocked
[03:32] <calmlb> haven't really used linux for more than 2 weeks at a time over the years. thanks for all you do to support the wonderful community that made this install doable for me and easeful to customize.
[03:36] <TheMarius> calmlb, i also like linux however i think im going the kde route next rather than unity
[03:36] <TheMarius> and im not sure how well linux will do on this (surface pro - the toutchscreen issue)
[03:37] <TheMarius> use toutchscreen alot on this ... no mouse.. only touchpad and screen
[04:00] <wafflejock> TheMarius, would do some searching on the particular surface pro to see if there is multitouch support for that model, there are some multitouch modules in the kernel but depends on the particular hardware
[04:06] <KalEl> I want to run Ubuntu from Windows, which is my primary OS. Planning to use Virtualbox. Which version should I install?
[04:07] <wafflejock> KalEl, what do you want Ubuntu in virtual box for?
[04:08] <wafflejock> KalEl, just asking cause would guide to say which one you should probably grab/install
[04:08] <KalEl> I generally like the linux platform (I have it in work). I will mostly use it for writing codes, may be python and c++.
[04:09] <wafflejock> KalEl, so you want to have a desktop environment that rules out server edition, other choice is particular version, 16.04 is the latest LTS next one with be 18.04, if you want newer software than came out with the april 2016 release you'd go a newer version number but means more frequent upgrades
[04:09] <KalEl> Won't need a lot of GUI, just a clean interface and terminal mostly I suppose.
[04:10] <wafflejock> KalEl, regarding desktop environment flavors that just depends on preference and hardware you have available to throw at it
[04:10] <KalEl> I got a 4790k in the host machine with 32GB DDR3 and nVidia GPU
[04:11] <wafflejock> If you want something lightweight and simple maybe Mate, Lubuntu, XFCE, the machine can handle whatever though, Gnome3 or KDE Plasma are typically more resource heavy but include more animations and blending
[04:11] <wafflejock> or of course Unity the "default" if you like that
[04:11] <KalEl> Thanks
[04:11] <TheMarius> wafflejock, apparently it works well on surface
[04:12] <TheMarius> not the chrome browser though which i use
[04:12] <wafflejock> TheMarius, ah good to here... hmm bummer on the second part though
[04:12] <KalEl> Will probably go with Gnome then
[04:12] <wafflejock> dpi issues or something?
[04:12] <wafflejock> KalEl, that's my preference :)
[04:12] <TheMarius> idk ... firefox seems to need a plugin for toutchscreen support under linux aswell
[04:12] <KalEl> How much space should I set aside for the system?
[04:13] <KalEl> I mean HDD space
[04:13] <TheMarius> guess its because linux is separate programs running on top of eachother, more than a unified "soup" like windows
[04:13] <wafflejock> KalEl, Usually I give it at least 40GB with the virtual disks where it grows as it needs it, usually the system itself is like 20GB but if you have a big HDD more is "safer" for growing
[04:13] <KalEl> I will need all compilers, vim, say emacs if I ever want to try evil... some lightweight GUI editor, and a good browser (Chrome?)
[04:14] <xangua> TheMarius: gnome seems to be the desktop more focused to touchscreen
[04:14] <TheMarius> we'll see.. it works fine for now
[04:14] <TheMarius> (win on this machine)
[04:14] <TheMarius> i have a desktop too though that runs linux
[04:14] <TheMarius> and its perfect for that machine
[04:15] <KalEl> I would switch to a native linux system if not for games. May be one day
[04:15] <KalEl> I really use nothing else on Windows. Sigh.
[04:15] <TheMarius> steam is getting pretty descent gaming options for linux
[04:15] <KalEl> A lot of major titles still are specific. Witcher 3 for example. Sigh
[04:16] <TheMarius> yeah if youre a dedicated gamer win is still the way to go, i game on ps4 though and i only really bother playing battlefield
[04:16] <wafflejock> KalEl, yeah I have a desktop for that stuff and straight Ubuntu on my laptop, steam is helping with the game situation some though
[04:17] <KalEl> If I get a Laptop, ubuntu (or something similar) will be my choice too by a wide margin
[04:17] <et09> use arch lol
[04:17] <et09> O:-)
[04:17] <wafflejock> KalEl, I just checked I'm using 70GB for system type stuff but that includes some docker images and mongodb and lots of web projects, have another 150GB in my home but that's just virtual box images and downloads I need to clean up and some SDK stuff
[04:17] <KalEl> May be 50 or 100GB then
[04:17] <KalEl> thanks
[04:19] <KalEl> Lastly, my earlier VDI (20gb) doesn't seem to allow me to upgrade the ubuntu installation. I think it's 15.04...
[04:19] <KalEl> I will probably delete and reinstall then. I will need to transfer my home directory I suppose
[04:21] <wafflejock> not sure if that is EOL but this might help if you want to upgrade
[04:21] <KalEl> I will "tar -cvzf ~" and copy it over to host?
[04:21] <wafflejock> !eolupgrade | KalEl
[04:22] <mozammel> Hi, I'm having a issue, composing mail on kmail, I cant get autocomplete of email. I'm using Kmail 5.2.5 ; plama 5.8.5, KUBUNTU 16.10, ... any help please
[04:22] <Bashing-om> !15.04 | KalEl
[04:22] <KalEl> Hmm looks a little hacky. May be I will go for a cleaner installation
[04:23] <Gavin16> Any of you guys running 16.10?
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Gavin16: Ask your real question :)
[04:24] <Gavin16> I'm having really bad packet loss but only when wirelessly connected to my home wifi
[04:25] <Gavin16> Been trying to fix it for days it's driving me off the wall so to speak
[04:26] <KalEl> Question, with Gnome and virtual box additions, I could use Ubuntu windows seamlessly. Does it also work with any of Mate, Lubuntu, XFCE?
[04:29] <Gavin16> So anyone know what's with the packet loss?
[04:30] <c|oneman> i've reset my sources.list, but for some readon I get a bunch of failed to fetch  mipsel packages , when I'm  on x86. Did I turn on mips sources somewhere other than sources.list?
[04:30] <KalEl> How is Mint different from Ubuntu if I only want Gnome?
[04:31] <wafflejock> KalEl, not sure really regarding the vbox additions, I think it works with all of them but can't say I've used them in vb recently enough to recall usually headless linux or windows in a vm lately
[04:31] <KalEl> Thanks wafflejock
[04:32] <fada> i am trying to ssh in a machine but its not working.however ping seems to be fine
[04:32] <fada> I have did a ssh-keygen and also copied the public keys to the host earlier
[04:34] <wedgie> fada: what error message do you get?
[04:35] <fada> wedgie: ssh: connect to host 192.168.198.130 port 22: Connection refused
[04:35] <wafflejock> !mint | KalEl
[04:35] <wedgie> fada: is openssh-server installed? Does your firewall allow port TCP 22?
[04:35] <wafflejock> KalEl, Mint as far as I know basically uses Cinammon as the default DE not sure if they have a flavor with Gnome3
[04:35] <fada> wedgie: yes it is installed and its through port 22
[04:36] <wedgie> fada: go on the server and run these commands and pastebin the result: ''sudo iptables -L; sudo netstat -tnl''
[04:36] <wafflejock> KalEl, not supported since they have their own repos and all, think they may have made some questionable security choices holding back some updates but just hearsay
[04:38] <fada> wedgie: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4fd1d4ee210b1ff036cef898fb20dba8
[04:38] <KalEl> Ok thanks
[04:39] <wedgie> fada: sshd doesn't appear to be running (note that nothing is listening on port 22)
[04:40] <fada> wedgie: i see a file called /etc/sshd/sshd_config
[04:40] <fada> doesnt that confirm that sshd is installed?
[04:40] <wedgie> fada: probably. Which ubuntu version are you on?
[04:41] <fada> fada: that ws on fedora
[04:41] <wedgie> fada: then you probably need to do something like this: sudo systemctl enable sshd
[04:41] <fada> wedgie: i did sudo service sshd start
[04:41] <fada> and now its fine
[04:42] <wedgie> ok. Start make it run now. Enable will make it start automatically next time you reboot
[04:45] <mate|64658> is it normal that I'm not able to see a htaccess with ls?
[04:45] <fada> wedgie: cool how different is enable from chkconfig on?
[04:45] <wedgie> mate|64658: htaccess is usually called .htaccess (hidden file)
[04:45] <wedgie> use ls -a
[04:45] <mate|64658> thanks wedgie
[04:46] <wedgie> fada: systemd vs whatever fedora used before. Should ask in the fedora channel about that kind of stuff. This is the Ubuntu support channel
[04:46] <wedgie> chkconfig sshd on
[04:46] <fada> wedgie: yes ok
[04:48] <catbadger> hey
[04:49] <catbadger> I'm having some nat troubles. anyone got some time to help?
[04:49]  * xrandr is not good with NAT
[04:52] <wedgie> catbadger: unless you're doing the NATing on an ubuntu box then you may be better off in ##networking
[04:56] <catbadger> it's an ubuntu box .
[05:02] <KalEl> Made up my mind - I will go with 16.04 Gnome :)
[05:03] <drjam> a fine choice sir. may i suggest the House Red with that?
[05:04] <KalEl> Ahh thanks
[05:04] <d_ven0m_> Hey, I'm not sure if this is the right place, but is there a way to make vim autoindent with 4 spaces rather than with 8?
[05:04]  * drjam doffs hats, backs away
[05:04] <drjam> ugh, vim
[05:04] <KalEl> Yeah just did that - use set tabstop=4
[05:05] <KalEl> Edit ~/.vimrc, and put "set tabstop=4", and "set shiftwidth=4"
[05:05] <KalEl> I set it to 2, btw
[05:06] <d_ven0m_> Thanks! I'm about to do that right now
[05:07] <KalEl> Oh, you might also wanna "set softtabstop=4" too. And I also "set noexpandtab" since I want spaces, to remove ambiguity if someone else opens it
[05:08] <d_ven0m_> What is "noexpandtab"?
[05:09] <KalEl> It uses spaces to do tab, and not the \t character
[05:09] <d_ven0m_> Oh! Wow I have literally been looking to be able to do that for the longest
[05:09] <KalEl> Ahh it might be "set expandtab"
[05:10] <KalEl> Not "noexpandtab"
[05:10] <d_ven0m_> I HATE tabs, much much prefer spaces
[05:11] <d_ven0m_> Now does this interfere with "cindent" or "autoindent" or whatever gets automatically loaded when opening c files?
[05:12] <KalEl> Hmm... I haven't used autoindent, but it should work
[05:14] <d_ven0m_> Thank you so much
[05:14] <KalEl> Happy to help :)
[05:15] <KalEl> By the way, you might be interested in using vi binding for bash too
[05:15] <d_ven0m_> What is that?
[05:15] <KalEl> In bash, "set editing-mode vi"
[05:15] <KalEl> Then you can press Esc and do vi magic to edit commandline
[05:15] <KalEl> very useful
[05:16] <d_ven0m_> Hm, what would I use that for?
[05:16] <KalEl> I feel it is much better than using the arrow keys to edit when you have to use long commands
[05:16] <d_ven0m_> ohhhh
[05:16] <d_ven0m_> I agree
[05:17] <KalEl> I have it on my ~/.profile
[05:19] <d_ven0m_> I've been thinking of moving to zsh, I've been told while not as universal as bash that it's features are really good
[05:20] <KalEl> I heard it is very good, has nice features (e.g. recursive globbing), never used it though
[05:21] <d_ven0m_> I find the built-in tcp features interesting as well as the supposed better autocompletion
[05:21] <KalEl> Ahh looks like bash also supports recursive glob noe
[05:21] <KalEl> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49913/recursive-glob
[05:26] <natan64> hi
[05:30] <natan64> i have problem in wifi in samsung nc210 - i have ubuntu 14.4 and I cannot find my wifi but i find any others wifi (in windows 7 was not problem) any others laptop can connect in wifi my card is bcm4313
[05:30] <natan64> any idea ?
[05:30] <natan64> probably drivers ?
[05:31] <Bashing-om> !bcm | natan64
[05:33] <natan64> Bashing-om i find this options in google but dont work ok my drivers is brcmsmc
[05:34] <natan64> if problem is drivers why i can fint others wifi
[05:36] <Bashing-om> natan64: Sorry ,, can not say . no idea myself either .
[05:41] <amitprakash> Hi, how do I install automake-1.14 on yakkety? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/+package/automake tells me older versions should be available as separate packages but I can't seem to find them
[05:48] <Ben64> amitprakash: theres 1.15 and 1.11
[05:49] <wafflejock> yup http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=automake&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all
[05:53] <natan64> Bashing-om yes
[05:53] <btl787> Hi
[05:53] <natan64> i dont have idea
[05:53] <natan64> maby realy drivers or somethings
[05:53] <natan64> secure is wpa / wpa2
[05:54] <wafflejock> natan64, you could try adjusting the security or channel settings on the router to see if it makes a difference, have had some devices that seem to not like "mixed mode" but it's outside my expertise
[05:55] <natan64> yes change channel and dothing
[05:55] <natan64> others lap with this same ubuntu not problem
[05:55] <natan64> only with nc210
[05:56] <natan64> network is bcm4313
[05:57] <natan64> in ubyntu live this same problem
[05:58] <humboldt-xie> ?
[05:58] <lgg> say something
[05:58] <natan64> ?
[05:58] <natan64> me ?
[05:58] <natan64> read 10 line ago
[05:59] <humboldt-xie> ok
[05:59] <lgg> first, get in here
[06:00] <cfhowlett> lgg, check your channel.  topic is ubuntu support.  ask your questions here or jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offtopic.  thank you.
[06:00] <lgg> ok
[06:03] <CrypticBash> Hey guys
[06:03] <CrypticBash> I'm having an issue with GRUB after installing ubuntu 14.04 on a VPS
[06:03] <err_> is it possible to use du -sh * command with a timestamp
[06:04] <CrypticBash> I can login to my system using GLISH but my LISH console is stuck on "stopping system V runlevel compatibility".
[06:04] <CrypticBash> I think it might be a graphical thing since I can only use glish?
[06:05] <viral_mutant> my deb package(built from rpm) installs the modules in ‘site-packages’ on Ubuntu 16.04, which python was unable to find
[06:05] <viral_mutant> googling told me that it shud be in dist-packages
[06:06] <viral_mutant> but it also says that if python is built from source, then it needs them in site-packages
[06:06] <viral_mutant> I am confused now.
[06:06] <viral_mutant> where shud I install the modules ?
[06:13] <Guest16973> how to install .deb package?
[06:14] <andrex> dpkg -h
[06:15] <Guest16973> andrex: unknown -h optioin
[06:15] <Ben64> Guest16973: what are you trying to install and why
[06:15] <Guest16973> Ben64: i am trying to install chrome
[06:16] <Ben64> ah, cool
[06:16] <Guest16973> the latest version of chrome
[06:16] <Ben64> "dpkg -i blah.deb"
[06:16] <KalEl> Ahh the excitement of a new installation!
[06:16] <Ben64> in almost all cases, you don't want to install things like that
[06:16] <KalEl> Booting Gnome Ubuntu 16.04 now
[06:17] <Guest16973> what normal procedure?
[06:18] <Guest16973> chrome does not auto update? it prompts me for the latest version
[06:18] <Guest16973> just downloaded the lastest versioin
[06:19] <KalEl> Hmm... isn't gnome menu supposed to be on top? I see a menu bar with 'Activities' on top left
[06:19] <KalEl> Am I doing it right if I want a Gnome desktop?
[06:20] <Ben64> Guest16973: once you install chrome, it adds the google repository to your system, so it will update along with everything else
[06:21] <Guest16973> Ben64: chrome does not auto update?
[06:22] <Guest16973> Ben64: oh no . actually i want to install chromium not googlechrome
[06:22] <Ben64> Guest16973: well chromium is in the ubuntu repositories, it auto updates, you should not be installing the deb for it manually
[06:24] <Guest16973> Ben64: but why it does not auto update? it prompts me to install the latest 56....now it is 53...
[06:25] <Guest16973> Ben64: maybe i manually installed chromium first to a different location? not from ubuntu repositories?
[06:26] <catbadger> My nat issue explained in more detail. please help if you can, i need sleep back in morning: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42360125/cant-access-odd-ports-from-outside
[06:28] <KalEl> Hmm may be I want Xubuntu instead of Gnome
[06:32] <Snowie> hi all. Ubuntu 16.04, i get a long delay after login to my user session (unity) been happening for a while. Other users don't seem to get it. when i log in i immediately run top and see that compiz is high on the list, to be expected i guess, but then also python running as root. it then calms down and i can get to opening my applications and stuff. any hints as to what this might be?
[06:32] <KalEl> Or Gnome 2
[06:32] <Snowie> Or how to diagnose what causes a long delay(unresponsive) on login
[06:33] <cfhowlett> KalEl, please direct chitterchatter to #ubuntu-offtopic as this channel is restricted to support.  Thank you.
[06:36] <anddam> why am I getting all English variants while only selecting en_GB in locales package configuration? https://gist.github.com/anddam/37287ce62547163c4ee0fae17cb6ce63
[06:37] <cfhowlett> anddam, because "english" locale installs all of them.  you can safely = carefully purge the ones you don't want or leave them there.  the system load is inconsequential.
[06:37] <anddam> cfhowlett: IIRC it didn't use to build all of them, is that right?
[06:38] <cfhowlett> anddam, in my experience all english variants have been included
[06:38] <anddam> ok, thanks
[06:38] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[06:38] <anddam> I'm trying to figure out this locale config thing that from time to time bites me in the ass
[06:39] <anddam> I'm EU based but like an English environment for the OS, except for the insanity like US date format
[06:40] <anddam> is there a locale that use ISO8601 ? should I write my own?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> anddam, :)  used to drive me batty as well.     when living in China, the system would default to Chinese locale.  even after I installed, mandarin would still be present and my dates would use chinese format.  maddening
[06:41] <crabvon> xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[06:41] <crabvon> This is the command I type in terminal to make my monitor look 3X better.
[06:41] <crabvon> How can I make it so that this line gets executed when I boot up?
[06:42] <crabvon> Anyone?
[06:42] <cfhowlett> !patience | crabvon
[06:43] <dumle29> Hey there guys. I'm trying to pin a repository for owncloud, but can't get it to work. For some reason the pin seems to effect all origins of packages
[06:43] <dumle29> This is the pin I'm setting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24038805/
[06:43] <crabvon> cfhowlett, How long am I supposed to wait?
[06:43] <dumle29> This is the resulting policy http://paste.ubuntu.com/24038806/
[06:43] <crabvon> Where the Team Members?
[06:44] <dumle29> crabvon: Read what the bot said
[06:44] <dumle29> crabvon: Maybe repeat your question if there's no answer in 30 minutes
[06:44] <cfhowlett> team members?   this is a volunteer support channel.  for instant answers I suggest you consider purchasing a canonical support package
[06:47] <anddam> cfhowlett: in locales configuration I pick C.UTF-8 as default locale, yet the resulting LANG is C rather than C.UTF-8, do you know why?
[06:47] <cfhowlett> anddam, sorry, no idea
[06:48] <anddam> this locale is a messy business
[06:48] <anddam> different topic, I installed kvm along with virt-manager and all according to wiki page
[06:49] <anddam> now I have a "Libvirt Qemu" user choice at gdm, shouldn't that rather be a system user?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> anddam, FWIW, I purged all except my preference.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24038823/
[06:50] <anddam> "LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8" ah, the insanity!
[06:50] <anddam> ;-)
[06:52] <crabvon> xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[06:52] <crabvon> This is the command I type in terminal to make my monitor look 3X better.
[06:52] <crabvon> How can I make it so that this line gets executed when I boot up?
[06:54] <anddam> my cfhowlett my /etc/default/locale has LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
[06:54] <anddam> if I start xonsh, my usual shell, I have LANG=C in locale's output
[06:54] <anddam> if I start bash I have LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[06:55] <anddam> in both cases this is wrong, how can I debug what's happening?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> addam pretty sure you should not need to manually edit the /etc file.  beyond that, I cannot advise.  sorry.
[06:55] <anddam> mm I checked the console and there LANG is correct, I figure this is GNOME doing something nasty
[06:55] <anddam> cfhowlett: I'm not editing those manually
[06:56] <anddam> that's the result of the locales reconfiguration, or update-locale manual commands
[06:56] <anddam> point is the file there has a value and shell (even default) in GNOME's terminal doesn't
[06:56] <anddam> and runcontrol files in my user don't set that, it's something in GNOME's initrc
[06:57] <cfhowlett> over my head at this juncture, I'm afraid
[06:57] <anddam> again, messy business
[06:58] <anddam> btw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale clearly shows how's only en_US is generated in the example,so that's a tihng
[06:58] <anddam> thing
[06:58] <anddam> I'll dig into locale-gen
[07:00] <anddam> I think the issue is /var/lib/locales/supported.d where the 'en' file has all the variants listed, and from locale-gen(8) that file's content is from installed language packs
[07:01] <anddam> so some system package put its variant in postflight there and locale-gen goes building it
[07:01] <anddam> I have no idea how to check what package has what install script
[07:23] <SmellyPirate> !ops
[07:23] <SmellyPirate> !ops
[07:23] <SmellyPirate> !ops | Jews, lol
[07:23] <SmellyPirate> !ops | fags
[07:35] <viral_mutant> I have a deb package which installs modules in ‘site-packages’. The python on Ubuntu 16.04 cud not find that.
[07:36] <viral_mutant> It needs modules in ‘dist-packages’ ?
[07:36] <ikonia> so install that module ?
[07:36] <viral_mutant> the deb package was created from an rpm package
[07:36] <viral_mutant> it installs files in site-packages
[07:36] <ikonia> but doesn't change anything
[07:36] <ikonia> so that sounds like a terrible idea
[07:37] <viral_mutant> the files shud be in ‘dist-packages’ ?
[07:37] <viral_mutant> searching over the net it says that if python is installed from Ubuntu repo it will look in dist-packages
[07:37] <viral_mutant> if it’s built from source it will look in site-packages ?
[07:38] <viral_mutant> so where shud the deb package install the files ?
[07:41] <ikonia> it will do what you tell it to do
[07:42] <idontwanttomakea> How do I switch Ubuntu from UEFI Mode to Legacy mode?
[07:43] <idontwanttomakea> I messed up and now my bios wont recoginize i even have anything installed
[07:43] <viral_mutant> ikonia: sorry, I didn’t understand that.
[07:43] <ikonia> viral_mutant: packages will get put / look where you tell them to
[07:43] <viral_mutant> same deb can be used on both kind of machines ?
[07:43] <ikonia> idontwanttomakea: it's an install time setting
[07:43] <ikonia> viral_mutant: no
[07:44] <ikonia> viral_mutant: quite the opposite, thats why I said trying to use stuff designed for redhat is a bad idea
[07:44] <idontwanttomakea> what do you mean ikonia
[07:44] <idontwanttomakea> is there no way to chaneg it
[07:44] <ikonia> idontwanttomakea: I mean you install/set the boot configuration during the install routine
[07:44] <idontwanttomakea> change
[07:45] <idontwanttomakea> ikonia is there any way i can fix it after the fact?
[07:45] <ikonia> to change it would be a lot of mnanual steps, it's not just a switch
[07:45] <viral_mutant> ikonia: I am building the package from source
[07:45] <idontwanttomakea> if i change it back to uefi in the bios
[07:45] <ikonia> viral_mutant: ok, so you can tell it what to do
[07:45] <idontwanttomakea> my computer still doesn't recoginize it
[07:45] <ikonia> idontwanttomakea: you need to be specific about the error,
[07:46] <idontwanttomakea> ikonia it says that i need to install something on the hard disk
[07:46] <ikonia> idontwanttomakea: what does it actually say
[07:47] <idontwanttomakea> i don't remember exactly
[07:47] <idontwanttomakea> but
[07:47] <ikonia> you need to get the exact info then
[07:47] <viral_mutant> ikonia: yes, I can tell it what to do. But how to tell the deb package to install the module at the appropriate location depending upon the kind of python flavor installed ?
[07:47] <idontwanttomakea> there is no exact info
[07:47] <ikonia> idontwanttomakea: there is, it gives an exact error
[07:47] <idontwanttomakea> i'm on the computer right now using a usb drive
[07:47] <idontwanttomakea> i can try to go check but
[07:47] <ikonia> viral_mutant: you put configuration parameters into install routine that can evaluate, however that sounds like the wrong way to approach it
[07:47] <idontwanttomakea> itll be harder that way
[07:48] <ikonia> the package should just install things to one place, there shouldn't be "multiple options" as it's just for one distro, one version, so one place
[07:48] <EriC^^> idontwanttomakea: why do you want to switch it?
[07:49] <viral_mutant> ikonia: but the customer may have installed python differently, right ?
[07:49] <ikonia> no
[07:50] <viral_mutant> I shud just assume that they would have installed python provided by Ubuntu repo and install the file in ‘dist-packages’ ?
[07:51] <ikonia> ubuntu shipped python is the only one you should depend on
[07:51] <ikonia> (please try to use non text speak like "should" rather than "shud"
[07:52] <Aliekezhi> hi, I forgot my sudo password but I can't access the grub menu while booting to reinitialize it...I tried to hold shift key or F12, but it stills boot ubuntu as usual...Any idea ?
[07:53] <ikonia> F12 is a bios sequence
[07:53] <ducasse> Aliekezhi: try esc or left shift
[07:53] <ikonia> the key squence for grub has changed during releases, may do well to check what it currently is for 16.04
[07:53] <ikonia> ah, thank you ducasse
[07:53] <ducasse> np
[07:54] <viral_mutant> ikonia: ok. I thought there might be some control flag in deb package building which would detect where to install the files based upon python flavor
[07:54] <Aliekezhi> oh, mb, I just realize the boot wasso fast that I had to press shift like one half second after the power button, problem solved XD
[07:54] <ikonia> viral_mutant: you really don't want to go that way
[08:22] <anddam> can anyone with a non en_US LANG setting please check what gnome terminal provides for LANG in a bash shell?
[08:23] <alkisg> anddam:  el_GR.UTF-8
[08:23] <alkisg> (mate-terminal, I hope it doesn't matter to you... it's the same in gnome as well)
[08:23] <anddam> alkisg: parakalo
[08:24] <anddam> if it's the same then it's good
[08:24] <alkisg> anddam: xaxa, that's "you're welcome"; while "eycharisto" is "thank you" :)
[08:24] <anddam> ah I mixed those up
[08:24] <anddam> btw I'd have written that as 'efkaristo' by the sound of it
[08:25] <anddam> anyway my issue is that I have a en_GB.UTF-8 in /etc/default/profile but then gnome-terminal with a login shell shows en_US.UTF-8
[08:25] <anddam> and I have no such setting in user home
[08:26] <alkisg> It's not k, it's ch... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_(letter)
[08:26] <alkisg> anddam: what's in /etc/default/locale?
[08:27] <anddam> https://gist.github.com/anddam/bdce16efcf477e707e24bc9b25885325
[08:28] <alkisg> anddam: and, anything in: gsettings list-recursively | grep en_US ?
[08:29] <ducasse> anddam: why /etc/default/profile? where did you read that gets parsed?
[08:29] <akik> anddam: you probably meant /etc/profile ?
[08:31] <anddam> typo, that was meant to be /etc/default/locale
[08:31] <anddam> not /etc/default/profile
[08:32] <anddam> check the updated gist, see how the console properly gets the settings, while gnome-terminal doesn't
[08:32] <anddam> it changes LANG and sets LC_ALL
[08:32] <anddam> that in this particular case has no difference, but in general I want to edit a few specific settings later on
[08:32] <akik> anddam: do you have some scripts in /etc/profile.d that get loaded and change it?
[08:32] <alkisg> (10:28:33 πμ) alkisg: anddam: and, anything in: gsettings list-recursively | grep en_US ?
[08:33] <anddam> alkisg: empty output
[08:33] <alkisg> anddam: does it happen in xterm too?
[08:34] <anddam> akik: I got     appmenu-qt5.sh  apps-bin-path.sh  bash_completion.sh  cedilla-portuguese.sh  libvirt-uri.sh  vte-2.91.sh
[08:34] <anddam> alkisg: yes
[08:34] <anddam> alkisg: it happens in xterm as well
[08:34] <anddam> I thought it was something related to the session
[08:34] <anddam> I'll create a new user and see what happens there
[08:35] <akik> anddam: try "grep -e LANG -e LC_ALL /etc/profile.d/*"
[08:35] <alkisg> anddam: gnome has its own settings that "override" those of /etc/default/locale, but I would expect them  to show up in gsettings...
[08:35] <anddam> btw is it normal for libvirt-qemu user to be    libvirt-qemu:x:64055:129:Libvirt Qemu,,,:/var/lib/libvirt:/bin/false
[08:35] <anddam> why the UID in the 64k rather than under 1k?
[08:36] <cpaelzer> anddam: that is a recent change
[08:36] <cpaelzer> anddam: it was changed to be a preallocated ID
[08:36] <cpaelzer> anddam: that is from that range
[08:36] <anddam> akik: done that already, btw grep doesn't automatically recurse directory (unlike the awesome ag)
[08:36] <cpaelzer> anddam: it gives you cross system ID equality which can help e.g. with migrations based on NFS backends
[08:37] <anddam> cpaelzer: but I get the user in gdm, that is annoying
[08:37] <cpaelzer> anddam: since it isn't a system user anymore
[08:37] <cpaelzer> hmm
[08:37] <cpaelzer> anddam: I'll take anote to look into that
[08:37] <akik> anddam: the files are in /etc/profile.d. you don't need recursion
[08:37] <alkisg> anddam: what do you have in: `cat /var/lib/AccountsService/users/$USER` ? Anything related to language there?
[08:38] <anddam> oh, I missed the wildcard
[08:38] <anddam> anyway
[08:38] <anddam> please check the updated gist
[08:38] <anddam> nothing unusual, I figure
[08:38] <anddam> I was in fact looking at vte due to that LC_ALL setting
[08:39] <anddam> but that's not in my locale so I figured it's some internal thingy
[08:40] <anddam> wow the system settings panel is annoying WRT new user password
[08:41] <alkisg> (10:37:38 πμ) alkisg: anddam: what do you have in: `cat /var/lib/AccountsService/users/$USER` ? Anything related to language there?
[08:42] <DevAntoine> hi
[08:42] <ducasse> anddam: which shell are you using?
[08:42] <DevAntoine> when wanting to make a process run in the background you do "process &". But what if the process takes arguments? It doesn't work anymore.
[08:42] <anddam> mm the new user has a proper locale in gnome terminal, so definitely something on my user settings
[08:43] <anddam> ducasse: usually xonsh but for these checks I'm using bash
[08:43] <anddam> that's the login shell as well
[08:43] <anddam> alkisg: one moment
[08:43] <alkisg> DevAntoine: sleep 3 & ==> that takes arguments and works
[08:44] <anddam> alkisg: nothing relevant, check the gist for accountsservice-user file
[08:45] <DevAntoine> alkisg: doesn't seem to work with "nodemon server.js &"
[08:45] <anddam> DevAntoine: you missed the point of that suggestion, the thing is to "put & at the end"
[08:45] <DevAntoine> anddam: already tried, first thing I tried
[08:46] <anddam> DevAntoine: that's should have been the first thing to say, what did you try and what output did you get?
[08:46] <DevAntoine> yeah, sorry
[08:47] <anddam> all the others: I'm out of ideas about this locale thing, I can obviously override that in my shell runcontrol files, but it bugs me a little
[08:47] <anddam> I'll run a recursive grep of all the home folder for en_US.UTF-8
[08:47] <akik> DevAntoine: what is nodemon ?
[08:48] <dconroy> node manager to restart your local server when developing
[08:48] <anddam> akik: I think it's a "node manager"
[08:48] <dconroy> monitors for changes
[08:48] <DevAntoine> akik: reloads a nodejs server when a monitored files is edited
[08:48] <anddam> akik: rather than a "no daemon" thing and then try to put the process in background
[08:48] <alkisg> dconroy: what hapens if you run it without the &, and what happens if you run it with it?
[08:48] <anddam> ah 'mon', not 'man'
[08:49] <anddam> DevAntoine: so what did you try and what you get?
[08:49] <alkisg> anddam: I think Language there in AccountsSettings should have been en_GB
[08:49] <alkisg> While en might imply en_US
[08:49] <anddam> alkisg: how's that properly set?
[08:49] <anddam> System Settings?
[08:50] <alkisg> anddam: there's a gnome dialog for language, yes somewhere there
[08:50] <DevAntoine> "nodemon server.js &" but it still uses the terminal
[08:50] <anddam> ok I know the dialog
[08:50] <alkisg> anddam: I never use it because it's too buggy in recent gnome and unity
[08:50] <anddam> alkisg: yay for me
[08:51] <dconroy> ive never run nodemon manually but instead only through a node module configured
[08:52] <alkisg> DevAntoine: background processes still output to the terminal, but can't receive input from it. If you don't want them to have output, you need to put >/dev/null 2>&1 at the end
[08:52] <anddam> alkisg: aaaand case solved
[08:52] <anddam> $ locale | grep LANG
[08:53] <anddam> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
[08:53] <alkisg> anddam: cool; yet another one to be bitten by the awful accountsservice :)
[08:53] <anddam> LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
[08:53] <anddam> the only odd part is this on relog
[08:53] <anddam> https://dl.dropbox.com/s/httifrpkdr671kx/Screenshot%20from%202017-02-21%2009-51-53.png
[08:54] <DevAntoine> alkisg: I want to keep the programm running if I leave the terminal
[08:54] <anddam> is it trying to move the whole home as its own subdirectory "Videos"?
[08:54] <alkisg> anddam: that's normal; it just detected a language change and prompts for the new settings. No, it's trying to use "Videos" for videos only
[08:54] <anddam> that btw wasn't there at all in the English setting, I had to create it myself
[08:54] <ducasse> DevAntoine: use 'nohup' or screen/tmux
[08:54] <anddam> alkisg: but Videos wasn't there on the 16.04 install a couple weeks ago
[08:55] <DevAntoine> ducasse: did it with screen
[08:55] <anddam> DevAntoine: I strongly prefer tmux over screen
[08:55] <alkisg> anddam: cat ~/.config/user-dirs.*
[08:55] <DevAntoine> anddam: never used it, I needed it to be done fast
[08:56] <anddam> DevAntoine: point is if you actually need to interact again with the process later, if not just go with nohup
[08:56] <anddam> alkisg: oh jeez
[08:56] <anddam> alkisg: .config/user-dirs.locale  has en_US
[08:57] <anddam> and I see XDG_VIDEO_DIRS was just $HOME, not sure why
[08:57] <alkisg> anddam: click yes on the update dialog
[08:57] <anddam> alkisg: yes, I see what's happening nwo
[08:57] <anddam> now
[08:57] <anddam> btw the newly created user has a proper XDG_VIDEOS_DIR setting
[08:58] <anddam> curiouser and curiouser
[08:58] <alkisg> anddam: nah it's normal; even translators have a say in this thing :)
[08:58] <anddam> alkisg: why is that .locale en_US?
[08:58] <anddam> should I edit it?
[08:59] <anddam> user-dirs.locale it is
[08:59] <alkisg> anddam: if it's still en_US after you select en_GB in gnome dialog and logout/login... then yes edit it manually
[08:59] <alkisg> (edit while logged out)
[09:00] <DevAntoine> anddam: well, I'm unlucky I guess: https://github.com/remy/nodemon/issues/296
[09:01] <anddam> alkisg: picking yes to the dialog set that as well
[09:01] <alkisg> Nice
[09:01] <DevAntoine> okay, I have to redirect the output
[09:03] <anddam> seems more the input, from the ticket
[09:03] <anddam> last bit is the real deal
[09:04] <anddam> the process wants to use stdin unless you use -I
[09:04] <anddam> and since you're putting it in background that's advisable
[09:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[09:28] <anddam> thanks all for the locale info
[09:29] <alkisg> np
[09:34] <xundres> ola
[09:43] <mohsen_> Hi. What service manager should I use in Ubuntu 16.04, service or systemctl?
[09:43] <EriC^^> mohsen_: systemctl
[09:45] <viral_mutant> On my Ubuntu 16.04, there are some .service files in /usr/lib/systemd/system directory
[09:46] <viral_mutant> is this a valid dir location on Ubuntu for service files ?
[09:46] <viral_mutant> I can’t seem to find documentation around this for Ubuntu
[09:46] <viral_mutant> it takes precedence over /lib/systemd ?
[09:59] <cableguy> team
[10:00] <cableguy> what is this ens7 device, why its always stuck at connecting and how do i fix it/get rid of it http://i.imgur.com/htGGEon.png
[10:00] <akik> cableguy: sounds like it's your ethernet device
[10:01] <cableguy> if i set sudo ip link set down ens7 it goes off with a state of unavailable
[10:01] <akik> cableguy: remove the configuration for it if you don't use it
[10:01] <cableguy> but if i restart network-manager it goes back up
[10:01] <akik> cableguy: the ip commands are temporary only
[10:01] <cableguy> where is the config
[10:02] <akik> cableguy: open your network manager applet
[10:03] <k1l_> 2 ethernet devices?
[10:04] <k1l_> can you wshow your  /etc/network/interfaces and ifconfig and lspci in a pastebin?
[10:04] <cableguy> whats the command to open that, there is no desktop version
[10:06] <cableguy> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/9ztU1YzX
[10:08] <akik> cableguy: maybe "nmcli conn delete id ens7" (i'm not sure about this). where's your network manager applet?
[10:08] <cableguy> i dont know what that is
[10:08] <k1l_> cableguy: what ubuntu is that exactly? what kernel? (uname -a)
[10:08] <cableguy> 16.04
[10:08] <cableguy> Linux dev 4.4.0-62-generic #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 18 14:10:15 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:09] <cableguy> ens7 isnt even in the interfaces or anywhere else
[10:09] <k1l_> is this a vm?
[10:09] <cableguy> yeah its a cloud hosting server from vultr
[10:10] <cableguy> its like digitalocean just less known
[10:11] <lsc> Could you change it back to 14.0* Image?
[10:11] <k1l_> looks like that is something hosting specific.
[10:13] <k1l_> i guess that networkinterface is brought up from the host. so i would ask the hoster to look at it and fix that
[10:14] <cableguy> i added iface ens7 inet manual to interfaces and now its status disconnected
[10:14] <cableguy> looks good to me
[10:15] <lsc> "lshw" to look up the hardware status
[10:17] <cableguy> yeah it list 2 network devices
[10:17] <cableguy> ens3 and ens7
[10:20] <lsc> try "ifconfig ens7 up"
[10:21] <cableguy> no output
[10:21] <lsc> and "ifconfig" to look the "ens7" hardware "RX" value
[10:21] <cableguy> packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[10:21] <cableguy> i dc'ed it, im fine with that.
[10:25] <lsc> check other ethenet card "RX" value,if !=None,try "ifconfig ens* down"
[10:27] <cableguy> nothing happening or changed
[10:33] <lsc> Yeah,nothing is true,check again "RX",if = nothing,you must contract your host manager
[10:36] <cableguy> contact for what, cuz i dont understand the issue
[10:48] <dreimus> Hi guys
[10:49] <dreimus> I need some help, I want to install Docker on DigitalOcean Ubuntu 16.10, but apt-get install say that apt-utils is an unmet dependency
[10:50] <dreimus> But apparently apt-utils is no longer present on 16.10
[10:50] <ducasse> !info apt-utils yakkety
[10:51] <ducasse> dreimus: are you trying to install docker from a ppa?
[10:52] <k1l_> dreimus: can you put all the output onto paste.ubuntu.com and link that here?
[10:54] <dreimus> ducasse: yes, sudo add-apt-repository \
[10:54] <dreimus>        "deb https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo/ \
[10:54] <dreimus>        ubuntu-$(lsb_release -cs) \
[10:54] <dreimus>        main"
[10:55] <dreimus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24039546/
[10:56] <k1l_> !info apt yakkety
[10:57] <k1l_> dreimus: run sudo apt update
[10:58] <dreimus> 87 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
[10:58] <k1l_> try now again. maybe you need to install the upgrades first
[11:00] <dreimus> Same thing, I'll try to update
[11:02] <dreimus> I can't upgrade my package,  apt-utils : Depends: apt (= 1.3.1) but 1.3.2ubuntu0.1 is installed
[11:03] <k1l_> dreimus: "apt policy apt apt-utils"
[11:04] <dreimus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24039576/
[11:04] <k1l_> sudo apt install -f
[11:05] <dreimus> which one ? apt-install -f apt-utils or my package ?
[11:05] <k1l_> if that is still not working try sudo apt install --reinstall apt
[11:06] <k1l_> dreimus: without naming the package
[11:06] <dreimus> It worked !
[11:06] <dreimus> Thank you !
[11:09] <allaoua> hy
[11:10] <allaoua> can anyone help me on Ubuntu touch?
[11:10] <k1l_> allaoua: the guys in #ubuntu-touch might help you with issues
[11:17] <dagere891> Hi, is there any way of showing the watch in menue bar, without having evolution installed? I purged evolution with everything it uses, as I do not make use of it at all; but the indicator-datetime than dissappeared
[11:20] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/24039760/ when trying to install ubuntu-desktop package...any idea why?
[11:21] <hateball> m_tadeu: are you on 16.04?
[11:21] <m_tadeu> hateball: yes
[11:21] <hateball> m_tadeu: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" first
[11:23] <mcphail> dagere891: evolution isn't installed by default. Just evolution-data-server (iirc) which is needed for the GNOME calendar to work
[11:24] <m_tadeu> hateball: still the same problem
[11:26] <dreimus> Hey guys, I have another problem : "apt-policy docker" shows me that I've installed docker 1.5-1, but when I "docker -v" it shows "1.13.1-0" ( potentially because I also have installed docker-engine
[11:27] <dreimus> How can I find where the docker 1.5-1 is installed ?
[11:28] <hateball> m_tadeu: whats the base install? lubuntu, xubuntu etc?
[11:29] <hateball> m_tadeu: what is the output of "apt policy checkbox-gui" ?
[11:30] <m_tadeu> hateball: kubuntu...and the output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24039804/
[11:32] <hateball> m_tadeu: any idea if you have actually held any packages? "apt-mark showhold"
[11:33] <m_tadeu> hateball: nothing
[11:34] <hateball> hmmm.
[11:34] <m_tadeu> Package qtdeclarative-abi-5-5-0 is a virtual package provided by:
[11:34] <m_tadeu>   libqt5qml5 5.5.1-2ubuntu6 [Not candidate version]
[11:36] <m_tadeu> checkbox-gui -> checkbox-converged -> qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin -> qml-module-ubuntu-layouts -> qtdeclarative-abi-5-5-0
[11:36] <m_tadeu> E: Package 'qtdeclarative-abi-5-5-0' has no installation candidate
[11:36] <m_tadeu> hateball: this is what I could find ^^
[11:39] <k1l_> m_tadeu: maybe the guys in #kubuntu know about their dependencies
[11:41] <m_tadeu> k1l_: how would that be different? it's ubuntu repo and ubuntu package...
[11:41] <k1l_> wasnt that a kde package?
[11:42] <dagere891> mcphail: yes, but this installs some services (e.g. evolution-addressbook-factory), which consume some ram, that i unfortunately do not have. Is there a way to not get this services, but still use the calendar?
[11:42] <k1l_> m_tadeu: you are right, sorry i mixed that up.
[11:43] <mcphail> dagere891: not that I'm aware of. In all honesty, the calendar is barely functional with the default install and is only useful when the full evolution package is installed. I tend to add, rather than remove, packages for the calendar
[11:44] <mcphail> dagere891: evolution is soo tightly bound to gnome and, therefore, unity
[11:45] <k1l_> m_tadeu: install libqt5qml5
[11:48] <jiggawattz> when is that new desktop coming to Ubuntu
[11:48] <jiggawattz> for in asskicking aardvark ?
 m_tadeu: install libqt5qml5
[11:58] <m_tadeu> sorry guys...seems I'm having some network problems
[11:59] <m_tadeu> k1l_: it's installed
[12:01] <JediMaster> Is there a way to automatically add an ssh key to the known_hosts file the first time a server is accessed? (That means, not ignoring keys, so if the key changes it should still warn!)
[12:03] <FinalX> JediMaster: don't think there's an option for that, you can alias it, though, and do a ssh-keyscan -H ip/host >> ~/.ssh/known_hosts before the ssh, perhaps.
[12:03] <FinalX> though you might end up with doubles in known_hosts, too
[12:07] <travel> Hi There need assistance
[12:07] <travel> I installed elementary os based on Ubuntu 16.04
[12:08] <travel> After Installing updates I get a blank screen on start up any ideas
[12:09] <ducasse> !elementary | travel
[12:09] <travel> Thank you
[12:12] <k1l_> m_tadeu: you ran sudo apt udpate?
[12:12] <m_tadeu> k1l_: yup
[12:12] <k1l_> m_tadeu: and you got the security and -updates repos enabled?
[12:13] <m_tadeu> k1l_: yup
[12:13] <hateball> m_tadeu: were you running stock kubuntu, or were you using backports PPA?
[12:13] <m_tadeu> hateball: using backports PPA
[12:14] <JediMaster> FinalX, yeah that's the problem, this script will be run thousands of times, so I need to make sure there's not duplicates AND it doesn't just remove previous entries for that IP
[12:14] <hateball> m_tadeu: I get the same issue if I try installing ubuntu-desktop, and I'm also using backports
[12:15] <k1l_> i guess some of the kubuntu qt stuff is breaking the dependency chain
[12:15] <hateball> yea
[12:15] <m_tadeu> crap :D
[12:15] <hateball> PPAs are PPAs after all
[12:16] <k1l_> m_tadeu: you could look at what package is breaking the chain (installing the one which is blocking to see what is blocking the next one) and then do a "apt policy package1 package2 package3" to see where they are from
[12:16] <hateball> m_tadeu: if you intend to use only unity you can ppa-purge... but if you want to switch between DEs, you will want to use the kubuntu backports... so
[12:16] <hateball> as 16.04 plasma is deliciously broken
[12:16] <m_tadeu> in deed :)
[12:17] <m_tadeu> I'll give it a try
[12:17] <m_tadeu> thx
[12:18] <m_tadeu> hateball: all packages seem to be from the official repo
[12:20] <m_tadeu> hateball: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24039982/
[12:20] <DottorLeo> hi!
[12:22] <six86> Hello. I again/still have a problem with creating a USB stick to install a preseeded Ubuntu... The modified iso ist not booting on UEFI machines, the only reliable way is to use a windows tool to achieve booting...
[12:22] <k1l_> m_tadeu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/qtdeclarative-abi-5-5-0   that should be shipped with libqt5qml5
[12:22] <k1l_> is libqt5qml5 from another repo?
[12:23] <barry> Hi guys, I have a webserver running 12.04 with a pretty normal apache/php setup. At some point this morning though the server started really struggling, and by the time i successfully ssh'd in it had 112 fuser processes running hogging all the resources. Has anyone experienced that?( I'm aware of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/877894 . In terms of scale, 112 is nowhere near the amount reported there though)
[12:23] <six86> How can I create a bootable usb (legacy and UEFI) from a preseeded iso?
[12:23] <m_tadeu> k1l_: in deed it is from the PPA
[12:24] <ablest1980> probably can drag and drop the iso into the usb folder
[12:25] <ablest1980> six86, https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[12:26] <six86> tried with usb-creator, 7z, unetbootin... stick is made fine but fails to boot
[12:26] <ablest1980> stick around someone will help
[12:28] <cpaelzer> anddam: I checked the libvirt user case, and it is still created as a system user
[12:28] <cpaelzer> anddam: I wonder why it is showing up for you in gdm now
[12:29] <cpaelzer> anddam: the change was from bug 1637601
[12:29] <dagere891> mcphail: but since thunderbird is the standard browser, isn't evolution now rather outdated? wouldn't an integration with lighning be more sensefull?
[12:29] <JediMaster> FinalX, figured it out, you can use ssh-keygen -F IP to work out if the IP exists in known_hosts already: ssh-keygen -F $IP > /dev/null || ssh-keyscan -H $IP >> ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[12:30] <ikonia> lighting is integrated into thunderbird now isn't it ?
[12:30] <FinalX> ah!
[12:30] <FinalX> JediMaster: nice :)
[12:30] <JediMaster> That way it avoids disabling security to stop MITM attacks
[12:31] <cpaelzer> anddam: well --system and fix UID/GID kind of oppose each other
[12:31] <JediMaster> I wonder if anyone has actually experienced an SSH MITM attack
[12:31] <dagere891> ikonia: I read this as well, but in thunderbird 45 I still need to install it..
[12:31] <k1l_> m_tadeu: then ask them if they can fix that package to fullfill that dependency so unity and kubuntu can be installed at same time
[12:31] <FinalX> JediMaster: all our 1000+ servers are managed through Puppet, and all SSHFP's are uploaded into puppet's db, so we can extract them through json exports and load them into our DNS, then just use VerifyHostKeyDNS
[12:32] <m_tadeu> k1l_, hateball: will do...thanks for your help
[12:32] <FinalX> (only works well if your zone is DNSSEC signed, though, by default OpenSSH won't allow SSHFP to be used if it's not validated through DNSSEC)
[12:33] <JediMaster> FinalX, doing something similar with our Chef setup. Auto-generating ssh keys, uploading the public key to the node's attributes. Will take a look at the DNS method, thanks
[12:34] <FinalX> Uber also now has a sort of CA to sign private/public key pairs, incl. revocation data and all, and that all sounds very cool and promising. But it's not implemented in OpenSSH so.. you know
[12:34] <JediMaster> Nice idea, but seems a little overkill =)
[12:35] <JediMaster> But depends on the use-case though
[12:35] <FinalX> yeah
[12:35] <FinalX> thing with SSHFP is, you know it's the right key, even if it's the first time you connect
[12:36] <FinalX> plus it works for everyone in one go, instead of each person having to create their known_hosts themselves
[12:36] <FinalX> (or maintain it..)
[12:37] <DottorLeo> i have a laptop with a Sandy Bridge processor and an Nvidia 610M as discrete card, what is the best setup to use the discrete card? Pure Mesa? Mesa for Intel and Nvidia closed driver for the discrete card?
[12:39] <FinalX> good question; also in some laptops you can disable the switching and just use the dedicated permanently instead, which is often better and not that much more power consuming at all
[12:39] <FinalX> I can't in my Dell Latitude E6440, but I haven't really had any problems with the default drivers or the need for better ones
[12:39] <DottorLeo> FinalX: yes but the Nvidia card is more performant on 3D application :S
[12:40] <FinalX> yeah, hence me wondering if you can just disable the Intel HD and leave the nVidia as the only card.. then just use the nVidia driver
[12:41] <FinalX> can't force the switch on mine either, though, the laptop determines which one is used depending on the performance asked of the system
[12:55] <mcphail> dagere891: thunderbird/lightning has an uncertain future, whereas the GNOME team continue to support evolution. I can't see why anyone would switch to lightning at this point
[12:57] <dagere891> mcphail: thanks, good to know. I'll have a look at the source, maybe it's easy to just remove the evolution-part and use just the watch without the calendar-stuff
[12:58] <user__> KHAN155555555555555555555
[12:58] <simula> some of my 16.04 machines have gcc 5.4.0 and others have gcc 5.4.1 after an update and dist-upgrade.  does anyone know why or how to get all the boxes upgraded to 5.4.1?
[12:58] <cfhowlett> user__, please play elsewhere.
[12:58] <user__> HI BOYS
[12:58] <simula> also, they have the same /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:59] <user__> hi guys how are you
[12:59] <cfhowlett> user__, topic here is ubuntu support.  ask your ubuntu question.
[12:59] <user__> fuck you
[13:00] <user__> suck my shit
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !ops | user__
[13:00] <user__> fuck your mom
[13:01] <user__> fuck indians
[13:04] <simula> the xenial gcc package description seems to say that the current version is 5.4.0 for amd64
[13:04] <simula> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/gcc-5
[13:07] <simula> this is interesting, the machine that won't upgrade to gcc 5.4.1 reads as 16.04.2 LTS via lsb_release, but the others are 16.04.1 LTS
[13:07] <simula> and all have been dist-upgrade'd
[13:08] <dagere891> exit
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:09] <simula> hello BluesKaj
[13:10] <BluesKaj> hi simula
[13:12] <six86> That did the trick: "sudo isohybrid MYIMAGE.iso" Randomly found when googling after preseed but not mentioned in most of the tutorials...
[13:12] <ablest1980> good
[13:12] <ablest1980> :)
[13:20] <parabool> is there something like archey for ubuntu ? like this: https://raw.github.com/MelonSmasher/puppet-archey/master/screens/arch.png (random img from google)
[13:21] <simula> dpkg -l gives me this on the two different boxes:
[13:21] <simula> ii  g++-5  5.4.1-2ubuntu1~16.04    amd64  GNU C++ compiler
[13:21] <simula> ii  g++-5  5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4  amd64  GNU C++ compiler
[13:23] <mcphail> simula: the 2nd one is the correct one. Perhaps the other one came from a PPA? You can check the origin with "apt-cache policy packagename"
[13:24] <simula> thanks a bunch mcphail, looking into it
[13:25] <simula> hello mcphail... here is the output:
[13:25] <simula> g++:
[13:25] <simula>   Installed: 4:5.3.1-1ubuntu1
[13:25] <simula>   Candidate: 4:5.3.1-1ubuntu1
[13:25] <simula>   Version table:
[13:25] <simula>  *** 4:5.3.1-1ubuntu1 500
[13:26] <LittleJohn> I got a question, is VM's a vbox and ubuntu created thing or is it only one of them ?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn, vm = virtual machine.
[13:27] <LittleJohn> ok i mean vm os
[13:28] <cfhowlett> virtual machine does not equal OS
[13:28] <LittleJohn> well thats great, then i only need to have vbox to run ubuntu in my windows machine -_-
[13:29] <LittleJohn> virtual machine os
[13:29] <cfhowlett> how much ram does this machine have?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> ram - random access memory
[13:29] <LittleJohn> ehm it has had 1gb up to 2gb
[13:30] <cfhowlett> then ubuntu will not be very useful.   try lubuntu instead
[13:31] <LittleJohn> now the things that has been tested is no filter different OS's -_- damn im getting tired of saying this over and over again
[13:31] <LittleJohn> i think this must be a vbox problem
[13:31] <LittleJohn> and ubuntu is not the guest its the host
[13:32] <LittleJohn> and my pc has above 10gb ram
[13:32] <brainwash> parabool: screenfetch
[13:32] <cfhowlett> LittleJohn> well thats great, then i only need to have vbox to run ubuntu in my windows machine -
[13:33] <cfhowlett> less confusing details >>> more useful answers.
[13:33] <brainwash> parabool: since ubuntu 17.04 or via PPA there is also neofetch
[13:33] <LittleJohn> must be.. cuz installed os on machine and installed on vbox should not be any differens right ?
[13:33] <LittleJohn> exept that it uses vbox
[13:34] <cfhowlett> sorry LittleJohn but you keep changing the parameters of your problem. not sure if you're just confused or deliberately trolling.  I'm out.
[13:34] <simula> you are brilliant mcphail, it was indeed a ppa, thanks a ton!
[13:35] <mcphail> simula: no worries. PPas are poison :)
[13:35] <simula> :)
[13:35] <LittleJohn> well i could of said kali just as ubuntu becuz you said the VM does not have anything with os to do
[13:35] <LittleJohn> it must have
[13:35] <LittleJohn> i think im to tired -_- i just answerd my own question
[13:39] <LittleJohn> a vm is a virtual machine and a virtual machine is a copy of a computer sense the os lays in a computer the os must be related to to the machine, so my question heres should be first is the vm's created by virtualbox or is it created with the help of example kali or ubuntu
[13:40] <LittleJohn> i must know this cuz my two usb dongles works on all os thou not if the os is in vm
[13:43] <RxMcDonald> Hi, I inserted the ubuntu inside of my CPU and now i need to add more ubuntu, it says "ERROR: Insert ubuntu
[13:44] <RxMcDonald> the ubuntu was inserted inside of the computer CPU
[13:44] <Countess_Bathory> LittleJohn, vbox can run most OSes , isolated from host and few other ways.   stop playing with your dongles and read the vbox user guide.
[13:44] <LittleJohn> daaamn that must be a big cpu
[13:45] <cfhowlett> RxMcDonald, cpu?  the central processing unit?
[13:45] <RxMcDonald> yes I inserted the ubuntu inside of the CPU
[13:46] <RxMcDonald> now my computer can't compute anymore
[13:46] <ducasse> RxMcDonald: you've played this game here before
[13:46] <RxMcDonald> no it doesn't let me play any games
[13:46] <cfhowlett> troll alert???
[13:46] <ducasse> very likely, i'd say
[13:47] <cfhowlett> added to /ignore. I love that hexchat makes it easy.
[13:47] <RxMcDonald> no I'm not in a trolley
[13:47] <LittleJohn> now why am i suppose to sit and read a user manual when the question is "is the vm's created by virtualbox or is it created with the help of example kali or ubuntu"
[13:48] <LittleJohn> i am reading the wiki for virtualbox instead
[13:49] <Countess_Bathory> bios
[13:49] <RxMcDonald> I inserted ubuntu 10.04 inside my computer CPU
[13:51] <LittleJohn> well the wiki does not answer my question
[13:51] <RxMcDonald> how can I increase ubuntu CPU power for more compute? I get "ERROR: Insert ubuntu"
[13:51] <ablest1980> whats your question
[13:51] <RxMcDonald> How to add more ubuntu inside of my CPU
[13:52] <ablest1980> cpu is you computer processor it processes information
[13:52] <ablest1980> do you mean hhd?
[13:52] <ducasse> ignore it and it will go away
[13:54] <LittleJohn> RxMcDonald youre cpu has no place opened for ubuntu/windows or any OS its youre Hard drive that has the OS
[13:54] <DArqueBishop> LittleJohn: RxMcDonald is a troll. Ignore him.
[13:54] <LittleJohn> ok
[13:54] <RxMcDonald> I turn on my computer and it says "ERROR: Insert ubuntu" I am trying to insert more ubuntu inside of the CPU
[13:54] <LittleJohn> hahahah
[13:55] <xplora1a> RxMcDonald, So are you running a bit od Windows and a bit of Ubuntu and you want to run a bit more Ubuntu.
[13:55] <LittleJohn> are you trieng to feed the computer xD... well i read opensuse site and as i can understand is that opensuse is the creators of virtual machines
[13:56] <LittleJohn> so my problem is with them...
[13:56] <RxMcDonald> I am trying to repair my computer, I need to increase the ubuntu inside of the CPU
[13:56] <EriC^^> !ops | RxMcDonald
[13:57] <FinalX> Your computer probably uses UEFI booting and the Ubuntu install is probably labelled "ubuntu" in your UEFI boot loader. Then the disk/partition that it was referring to, is gone and it's asking you to put it back. Did you recently install another OS perhaps?
[13:57] <FinalX> Or mess with your partitions/drives?
[13:58] <RxMcDonald> yes I replace the computer CPU
[13:58] <RxMcDonald> and now it cannot find ubuntu
[13:58] <FinalX> just the processor shouldn't have this as consequence
[13:59] <LittleJohn> Channel emergency! you are loosing all youre ubuntu users who demands to be able to use Grundig or Netgear usb dongles mentioned by LittleJohn
[13:59] <RxMcDonald> I need to add more ubuntu inside of my CPU, my computer repair told me tha
[13:59] <cfhowlett> FinalX, pretty certain he's trolling us.  there's a history.
[13:59] <LittleJohn> hmm command did not work...
[13:59] <EriC^^> "no i'm not in a trolley"
[13:59] <EriC^^> troll level 7/10+
[14:00] <FinalX> cfhowlett: heh, I was just checking back my logs.. you're right
[14:01] <xplora1a> So do we ban trolls or just leave them alone?
[14:02] <LittleJohn> there probably trolls with netgear/Grundig USB's... Ignore them...
[14:02] <cfhowlett> xplora1a, ops is aware.  if he becomes abusive or excessively trollish, ping the opbs again
[14:05] <r4> hai
[14:06] <r4> hai
[14:06] <r4> test
[14:06] <LittleJohn> thou i must say your 90% better with helping with usb wifi preblems then vbox channel, there totaly incompitant by not being able to answer on the subject usb dongles...
[14:15] <CrazySane> I admit, I haven't adjusted to SYSTEMD all that well, I just haven't learned it all yet. Does the existence of an init.d entry mean that a service is upstart? How do I check specifically that something is SYSTEMD?
[14:16] <FinalX> CrazySane: there's only one init-system handling the startup of things, even if something is in init.d, it'll be started by systemd if it's the active init manager
[14:16] <FinalX> CrazySane: though init.d is not a systemd-type of thing; systemd works with unit files under /lib/systemd or /etc/systemd etc
[14:17] <karl__> How come emacs is tagged as non-free in "Ubuntu Software"? What does that mean?
[14:18] <k1l_> !info emacs24
[14:18] <CrazySane> FinalX: Right. I know systemd is doing the real work, but since some things still install into init.d, I wanted to know how to tell if a service is native systemd or still using upstart (init.d). What I surmise is that if an entry exists in /lib/systemd or /etc/systemd then it's SYSTEMD, if not, then it must be init.d?
[14:19] <k1l_> karl__: are you sure you mean ubuntu and not debian?
[14:20] <karl__> k1l: Yes, I'm sure, I'm using 16.10
[14:20] <elias_a> Oh my... RxMcDonald seems to be North American. The lack of understanding and twisted sense of humour tells me that. Please stop communicating.
[14:20] <cfhowlett> elias_a, in your irc client:   /ignore RxMcDonald
[14:21] <FinalX> CrazySane: pretty much, yeah, though init.d scripts can be treated like systemd scripts of sorts. some applications only have init.d scripts, and I make exceptions for them and rules for them with standard systemd unit files as if it was any other.
[14:21] <FinalX> CrazySane: fstab mounts are also done by systemd, for example, so you could use systemd to determine the order in which they're mounted better
[14:22] <CrazySane> FinalX: thanks.
[14:23] <k1l_> karl__: its about this package whis is non-free in the meaning of debian: https://packages.debian.org/sid/emacs24-common-non-dfsg
[14:25] <k1l_> karl__: in short: debian says the GFDL is not free and that is used for the emacs documentation. so the whole emacs is not free
[14:25] <elias_a> cfhowlett: The problem with such individuals is more complex than my ignore list.
[14:25] <yann-kaelig> Hi. I'm trying to install sysinfo or hardinfo through apt-get but there is no such software. How can  Iget them ?
[14:25] <karl__> k1l_: aha, that explains it
[14:26] <cfhowlett> elias_a, if it becomes personal, immediately notify ops.
[14:31] <karl__> What exactly is included in "Ubuntu Software"? I thought it was a graphical frontend to apt (and snappy), but apt seems to contain packages that are not available in "Ubuntu Software".
[14:33] <k1l_> karl__: what exactly?
[14:34] <brainwash> karl__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761126/ubuntu-16-04-software-center-doesnt-have-much-apps/767082
[14:42] <lelebart> hi, a friend of mine give me his asus P2520L and told me he have had troubles with wifi. (he bought it brand new online but without os, so he installed ubuntu 16.10). atm it works fine. how to diagnostic wifi?
[14:42] <karl__> brainwash, thanks! that solved my problem
[14:46] <Guest98251> hi, system crashes when I close the lid. Any help?
[14:54] <Xat`> I have a 14.04 LTS, owncloud package is deprecated
[14:55] <compdoc> I just upgraded a 14.04 LTS system
[14:58] <LittleJohn> now i do not know if this was a ubnutu or kali or virtualbox issue thou if you want to see the errors then i got opensuse code upload link....
[14:59] <keving> My Apache2 is not autostarting. The rc scripts in place and have S instead of K. service apache2 // init.d/apache2 start are both working manually. Anyway to figure out where it hangs?
[15:01] <pavlos> keving, check /var/log/apache2/ logs
[15:03] <Xat`> I have a 14.04 LTS, owncloud package is deprecated : owncloud_6.0.1+dfsg-1ubuntu1.2_all
[15:03] <Xat`> how can I get up to date owncloud from repo ?
[15:03] <keving> @pavlos: It doesn't generate one after reboot. Have purged the folder
[15:06] <ducasse> Xat`: there is no newer owncloud in the repos, packages in a finished release do not get version updates
[15:07] <pavlos> keving, re-enable ... sudo update-rc.d apache2 enable
[15:08] <keving> allready did that. I'm out of ideas :D
[15:08] <keving> Tryed also to first remove then enable defaults nothing
[15:09] <EriC^^> keving: which ubuntu?
[15:09] <keving> 16.04.2 LTS
[15:09] <EriC^^> keving: try sudo systemctl enable apache2
[15:09] <phos1> how can i send emails in PHP with a specific SMTP server (Ubuntu Apache)
[15:10] <keving> apache2.service is not a native service, redirecting to systemd-sysv-install Executing /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install enable apache2
[15:10] <EriC^^> keving: try sudo systemctl start apache2
[15:10] <keving> that works
[15:11] <EriC^^> keving: ok try rebooting and see if it starts
[15:12] <keving> nope
[15:12] <EriC^^> try systemctl status apache2
[15:12] <keving> http://pastebin.com/raw/w0yeb9kz
[15:13] <shamila> just do : systemctl enable apache2
[15:14] <EriC^^> keving: try grep User /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[15:15] <keving> its not in there allready looking for it
[15:15] <EriC^^> keving: try grep USER /etc/apache2/envvars
[15:16] <keving> Can it come from SuexecUserGroup there is myname in the sites
[15:16] <EriC^^> keving: in the envvars file?
[15:16] <keving> na, vhosts of my sites
[15:17] <keving> Maybe i think i found the problem
[15:17] <keving> nscd can't start because mysql isn't up there. Then maybe apache2 failed because it can't find the username
[15:18] <EriC^^> keving: is suexec enabled?
[15:18] <keving> yea
[15:20] <EriC^^> did you try the grep USER ....envvars?
[15:21] <keving> its not in there
[15:21] <EriC^^> keving: maybe it should be
[15:21] <EriC^^> try systemctl restart apache2
[15:24] <keving> Figured it out by changed the boot depencies of nscd and apache2.
[15:24] <EriC^^> aha, cool
[15:24] <keving> ty for help
[15:24] <EriC^^> np
[15:24] <lelebart> hi, a fiend of mine gave me his ASUS P2520L with ubuntu 16.10 and told me he have had troubles with wifi - randomly disconnect etc. atm it seems works fine, here the troubleshooting nopaste http://paste.ubuntu.com/24040722/
[15:30] <Zewwy> hahaha Man, I'm so glad I didn't work on this project on the weekend...
[15:30] <Zewwy> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/pwm-general/xCF5CZj64ek
[15:30] <Zewwy> sure enough a fix was released just on friday
[15:40] <phos1> I am trying to end email on ubuntu with MSMTP and it is just hanging on “reading recipients from the command line and mail”
[15:40] <phos1> I am trying to send emails with PHP through a SMTP server (Office 365)
[15:43] <j4f-shredder> hey, how do I copy a file from the current directory and overwrite it on another directory that has a file with the same name??
[15:44] <j4f-shredder> in fact, I want to copy two files that are on different folders in a project folder and copy those two files to its respective locations on a different folder
[15:46] <RxMcDonald> Is it possible to insert ubuntu 11 inside ubuntu 10.04 CPU?
[15:46] <EriC^^> j4f-shredder: cp /path/to/source /path/to/destination
[15:48] <ducasse> RxMcDonald: you're still not being amusing, please stop.
[15:52] <shaffl> What is the proper way to set Xft.dpi permanently, under Ubuntu 16.04?
[15:54] <ducasse> shaffl: set it in ~/.Xresources
[15:56] <shaffl> ducasse: Is that enough, or should I create some .xinitrc / configure something else to load .Xresources on startup? Also, can I put Xft.dpi alone (without other settings), inside that file?
[15:57] <hhee> hey! guys, i need stick notes on desktio (unity) what can i use?
[15:57] <ducasse> shaffl: it _should_ be parsed on x startup, but i've got 'xrdb ~/.Xresources' in ~/.xsessionrc just in case. you don't need other settings in it, it will work by itself.
[15:58] <shaffl> ducasse: ok, I'll try it now, thank you
[15:58] <ducasse> shaffl: np
[16:04] <CrazySane> !info openjdk-8
[16:04] <efu_> hey guys
[16:04] <OerHeks> !info openjdk-8-jre
[16:05] <CrazySane> Thanks OerHeks
[16:05] <OerHeks> or !find openjdk-8
[16:05] <nacc> and if you actually need the jdk it's openjdk-8-jdk
[16:06] <CrazySane> Needed the jre. thanks.
[16:12] <worktoner> I have an openssh question. Is it possible for an individual user to get blocked or banned somehow automatically?
[16:12] <Southern_Gentlem> yes
[16:13] <Daulin> hola
[16:13] <Daulin> como estan?
[16:13] <worktoner> I created a soft link in the user's directory to my web root, and tried connecting via an sftp client. After trying to access that soft link it seems like the user cannot connect anymore. They are chrooted to their home directory
[16:13] <Daulin> todos
[16:13] <Southern_Gentlem> if the server is using software like denyhosts or fail2ban
[16:13] <Daulin> soy de samana
[16:13] <Daulin> hola
[16:13] <pavlos> !es | Daulin
[16:16] <pavlos> worktoner, look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config for DenyUsers
[16:17] <worktoner> pavlos: I checked once, I can check again. I am the only admin on this machine currently
[16:21] <OerHeks> iptables -A INPUT -s <try here your own ip> -j DROP # if this works >> iptables -D INPUT -s <again here your ip> -j DROP  # to release the block
[16:22] <pavlos> worktoner, you can add DenyUsers user1 user2 user3 under the # Authentication: section
[16:30] <dannyLopez> Hi, I cant see the desktop in my Pc, I mean, when login, the mouse works, but the desktop and XFCE dont start
[16:30] <dannyLopez> In /etc/init.d/lightdm status show me some of this: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwalle5.so)
[16:31] <EriC^^> dannyLopez: try ctrl+alt+f1 , login then type "rm -fr ~/.cache/sessions/*" then press alt+f7 and try to login again
[16:32] <dannyLopez> like sudo? EriC^^
[16:32] <EriC^^> dannyLopez: no need for sudo
[16:32] <dannyLopez> Ok
[16:33] <LittleJohn> UBUNTU, now my issue is actually for all the OS thou thanks for the ignorance on this mather.....
[16:33] <Whir> Hi, I have some odd wifi problems, which can at least be solved by restarting the network-manager after boot.. I put such a command into rc.local but it is not executed
[16:34] <Whir> by googling I am pointed to init.d scripts, but I don't want to register a new service, merely a one time reboot
[16:34] <dannyLopez> EriC^^: Do the same. :(
[16:34] <EriC^^> Whir: maybe @reboot in cron can help?
[16:34] <EriC^^> sudo crontab -e , then @reboot <command here>
[16:34] <EriC^^> dannyLopez: does a freshly created user work?
[16:36] <Whir> EriC^^: ah, ok root commands with cron, I have a look thx
[16:36] <LittleJohn> Now lets see what os will be the one who first fixes the issue, il bet ubuntu be the last...
[16:38] <dannyLopez> Yes EriC^^, the same in a new user.
[16:40] <dannyLopez> EriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/BIccA4K.jpg
[16:40] <nacc> LittleJohn: have you actually stated a problem, or just ranting. If the latter, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[16:41] <anddam> I installed texlive package and now need a tex package not provided by ubuntu
[16:41] <anddam> I read in tlmgr(1) that tlmgr always runs in user mode
[16:42] <anddam> does that mean it cannot be used to add system-wide packages
[16:42] <anddam> s/$/?
[16:43] <Roshan> Hi Guys, Getting issue with wifi in ubuntu
[16:43] <Roshan> Enthernet is working but wifi is not
[16:43] <Roshan> Ethernet is working but wifi is not
[16:44] <nacc> anddam: read the section on "USER MODE" in the manpage?
[16:44] <anddam> nacc: honest answer?
[16:45] <nacc> anddam: in the context of that manpage, it's referring to that 'user mode' not the typical meaning
[16:45] <anddam> nacc: no, I haven't yet
[16:45] <anddam> reading now
[16:45] <anddam> thx
[16:46] <nacc> anddam: ok, it's relatively important (I don't know much about texlive -- but it seems like you could, as root, pass an appropriate usertree option. However, I'm not sure on permissions, etc.). What texlive pacakge do you need?
[16:48] <anddam> nacc: I read the USER MODE section, I'm not sure how that applies though
[16:48] <anddam> nacc: I need needspace package http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/needspace
[16:49] <nacc> anddam: the earlier reference in the manpage to being 'in user mode' is specifically about that later section about UESR MODE
[16:49] <anddam> nacc: so given that the debian man page says tlmgr always run in user mode, I'd need to run --usertree with the path to the system tree
[16:49] <nacc> anddam: yes, probably, and as root. But I'm not sure that's the intended use, anyways
[16:49] <anddam> nacc: and ofc I should do this as root (or other user with write permission to the tree)
[16:49] <nacc> anddam: and it's possible it would break your installation
[16:49] <anddam> nacc: I'm trying to figure what the intended use is, to be ubuntu-compliant
[16:49] <dannyLopez> Dont work even GNome. :O
[16:50] <Roshan> Any one please help wifi is not working in ubuntu 4.04
[16:50] <anddam> nacc: I don't really care for thes solution, I just want to compile the source
[16:50] <nacc> anddam: presumably it's to install extra tex packages in your home directory (or arbitrary directories).
[16:50] <nacc> anddam: you could also try putting in /usr/local to see what it installs and then decide if it's useful or not
[16:50] <anddam> and then how do I tell latex to use that additional, user-based tree?
[16:51] <Roshan> nacc: I am getting issue in wifi in ubuntu
[16:51] <anddam> Roshan: stealing my help are you, mmmm?
[16:51] <nacc> anddam: presuming it's based off TEXMFHOME, it will automatically, I think pick it up
[16:51] <cisco-alfa> yes
[16:51] <pavlos> Roshan, https://github.com/UbuntuForums/wireless-info ... can you get that script, run, and pastebin the output?
[16:51] <anddam> Roshan: you didn't provide any useful information about your issue
[16:51] <nacc> anddam: if you install somewhere else, you might need to tweak a tex path or something
[16:52] <nacc> anddam: in any case, at least in 17.04, needspace is in texlive-latex-extra
[16:52] <nacc> anddam: let me look on 16.04, presuming that's what you are running
[16:53] <nacc> anddam: also in 16.04
[16:53] <nacc> anddam: so not sure why you think any of this is necessary :)
[16:53] <anddam> nacc: oh woot!
[16:53] <worktoner> pavlos: I ended up removing the chroot setting for this particular group of users
[16:53] <worktoner> pavlos: But thanks for your help!
[16:54] <anddam> nacc: because I went packages.ubuntu.com and searched packages containing "needspace" in xenial
[16:54] <anddam> nacc: and got nothing
[16:54] <pavlos> worktoner, np
[16:54] <anddam> to the apt-machine!
[16:54] <anddam> nacc: I have texlive-latex-extra installed already
[16:55] <abhay> hey
[16:55] <anddam> nacc: yep, needspace.sty is there
[16:56] <nacc> anddam: did you check the 'contain files whose names contain the keyword'?
[16:56] <nacc> anddam: otherwise it's looking for an exact match
[16:57] <anddam> nacc: oh, I mistakenly took the first option for a wildcard match
[16:57] <anddam> in fact it's working as expected
[16:57] <anddam> my bad
[16:57] <anddam> thanks
[16:57] <anddam> now my issue is why the sty isn't foudn
[16:57] <anddam> found
[16:58] <anddam> I figure that since I'm using pandoc the generated tex template needs the specific usepackage directive to load needspace's macros
[16:58] <nacc> anddam: outside my expertise, sorry :/ i've not had any issues using the system .sty files
[16:59] <nitin_> #elasticsearch
[17:00] <anddam> nacc: how are you copmiling latex?
[17:00] <anddam> compiling, even
[17:01] <nacc> anddam: i'm not -- had to build some docs for another package and did the normal apt-file for missing .sty until the build succeeded, which it did
[17:05] <anddam> nacc: yes, but I mean you didn't use pandoc, did you?
[17:05] <anddam> or the package build didn't use that
[17:06] <nacc> anddam: doesn't look like it
[17:06] <anddam> nacc: the oddest thing, if I conver the .rst to .tex and this to .pdf it goes straight away without error
[17:07] <eil> what tex client do you use
[17:07] <anddam> nacc: I figure pandoc checks for packges to include when the source is actual latex
[17:07] <anddam> eil: who?
[17:08] <nacc> anddam: i don't know anything about pandoc, sorry
[17:08] <eil> for example you?
[17:08] <haxdoe13> hello
[17:08] <nacc> !who | eil
[17:09] <parabool> i've got a broken USB stick. it's 1.9GB, and I can only acces +- 700MB of it. /dev/sda1 contains a bootable ISO, and I can't access it to delete (I can access it with nautilus, though.) It does mount properly. /dev/sda2 doesnt mount. And when I gparted /dev/sda1 I get into the 700MB part (which I guess is /dev/sda2)
[17:09] <parabool> how can i just wipe everything of the disk?
[17:09] <haxdoe13> do you guys know about any software that can add brightness control to the right up corner of the desktop?
[17:10] <haxdoe13> parabool: maybe use dd?
[17:10] <anddam> eil: I don't use any tex "client", I just use vim
[17:10] <eil> vim:?
[17:10] <eil> vim :)
[17:10] <haxdoe13> vim :(
[17:11] <Fantomaz> Hello :)
[17:11] <Zewwy> Jeery, Hello!
[17:11] <Zewwy> Jerry, Hello
[17:11] <parabool> haxdoe13, i've tried it, to no avail. basically when I mount the iso and i 'lsblk' i can see it's mounted on /dev/sda1, but when i gparted /dev/sda1 i get into a part of the USB stick that is totally empty
[17:12] <eil> I installed tor-arm,typed arm then "Connection refused. Is the ControlPort enabled?"
[17:12] <parabool> and with lsblk i have size /dev/sda: 1,9 , size sda1 613M, size sda2 31M
[17:13] <haxdoe13> maybe it's just dead?
[17:14] <OerHeks> eil, configure tor properly? http://askubuntu.com/a/754518
[17:15] <parabool> haxdoe13, nope it was working 15min ago. I messed sth up with DD, but idk what
[17:16] <eil> I added it in /etc/tor/torrc,also Connection refused. Is the ControlPort enabled?
[17:16] <pavlos> parabool, gpared can wipe the whole disk, select partition, delete, repeat, apply
[17:17] <OerHeks> eil restart tor ?
[17:17] <Guest59413> help
[17:18] <eil> !tag OerHeks  how to restart tor?
[17:18] <Zewwy> Is there no GUIless Ubuntu option?
[17:18] <haxdoe13> parabool: try "testdisk" it seems like part of gparted
[17:19] <Zewwy> gparted is amazing
[17:19] <pavlos> Zewwy, ubuntu server
[17:19] <nacc> eil: type "OerHeks" (or some starting string is probably enough) and hit tab.
[17:19] <WoLf> Zewwy: server and don't select Desktop while installing
[17:19] <Zewwy> interesting...
[17:19] <haxdoe13> eil: sudo service tor restart?
[17:20] <Zewwy> I was always used to linux being linux, wheither it was server or user based came to how it was insatllled via installation options
[17:20] <Zewwy> why does Ubuntu seperate it like that?
[17:20] <kip> ng
[17:20] <eil> haxdoe13:Ok,it works
[17:20] <eil> thank you :)
[17:21] <WoLf> different default packages, basically.. you can do the same with a normal installation removing all the dependencies to graphic stuff.
[17:21] <Zewwy> either wya, thanks for the info guys!
[17:21] <WoLf> or you could install a normal system, then init 3
[17:21] <haxdoe13> Zewwy: you can use ubuntu without graphical interface
[17:22] <Zewwy> haxdoe13: only on server edision
[17:22] <WoLf> that will go to "text only mode", while still allowing you to have a desktop if / when you'll need it.
[17:22] <OerHeks> Zewwy, òr mini iso, don't select any DE, just ssh service
[17:23] <Zewwy> Not sur why they didn't just have one installation type, and can pick your DE
[17:23] <Zewwy> or not
[17:23] <haxdoe13> Zewwy: I was using Lubuntu Desktop without graphical interface, I am pretty sure Ubuntu can be used like it too. Just edit grub
[17:23] <ouroumov_> Zewwy, because it's not user friendly, duh.
[17:23] <Zewwy> haxdoe13: cause thats intuitive haha
[17:23] <Zewwy> ouroumov_: exactly my point haha
[17:23] <haxdoe13> Zewwy: here you go http://askubuntu.com/questions/870221/booting-into-text-mode-in-16-04/870226
[17:24] <Zewwy> thanks guys
[17:24] <Zewwy> I'll just install via teh server edition I just D/Led
[17:25] <haxdoe13> lol or just type one command to terminal and restart
[17:27] <Zewwy> I have to rebuild anayway
[17:27] <LittleJohn> i am defently gonna say for thous who ask if they should change to linux that they should not do it if they are using wirless adapters
[17:27] <Zewwy> Going to rebuild compeltely GUIless
[17:27] <Zewwy> meaning not even installed to make the server, you know optmaized
[17:30] <nacc> LittleJohn: random comments are not particularly useful. Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:33] <Zewwy> That comment is also so vague as their are many depandcies on that.
[17:34] <Zewwy> Wow, for reals... go back bring up a whole option of stuff instead of simplying... i dunno goign back one step
[17:35] <Zewwy> Like what the eff
[17:35] <Zewwy> I forgot to take a screen shot of me enetreing the hostname
[17:36] <Zewwy> I can't go back in teh installer steps to it, no matter how far back I select under the Go Back section, it bypasses that step each time
[17:36] <Zewwy> whats up with that?!
[17:36] <haxdoe13> do you guys know to how set Referrer Policy header in apache2 on ubuntu server?
[17:37] <Zewwy> would that be an apache question?
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> haxdoe13  there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:37] <haxdoe13> yeah but #httpd is dead channel
[17:37] <Zewwy> sadly
[17:37] <Zewwy> true
[17:40] <eil> I installed proxychains
[17:40] <eil> and i input [proxychains] config file found: /etc/proxychains.conf
[17:40] <eil> [proxychains] preloading ./libproxychains4.soPING www.google.com (93.46.8.89) 56(84) bytes of data.
[17:41] <eil> then it can't ping google
[17:41] <eil> how to configure proxychains?
[17:41] <Zewwy> Sounds like you have a networking issue, seem DNS is resolving googles public IPs
[17:42] <eil> [ProxyList]
[17:42] <eil> # add proxy here ...
[17:42] <eil> socks5 127.0.0.1 1080
[17:42] <eil> # meanwile
[17:42] <eil> # defaults set to "tor"
[17:42] <eil> socks4 	127.0.0.1 9050
[17:42] <Zewwy> First ensure your host server can reach any internet routable IP (A gernal good one is googles DNS servers 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4)
[17:42] <OerHeks> don't paste like that
[17:42] <OerHeks> !paste
[17:42] <Zewwy> Also yes, no inline pasting
[17:42] <OerHeks> and eil what guide are you following for proxychains?
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> eil  next time, use a pastebin ... paste.ubuntu.com
[17:44] <eil> paste.ubuntu.com/24041478/
[17:51] <Zewwy> Whats the Manual package selection? under software to install?
[17:51] <opendown> Hi All
[17:52] <opendown> anybody use lenovo here ? Having issue with trackpad scrolling getting stuck
[17:52] <opendown> 16.10 lxde
[17:52] <Zewwy> Sorry nope
[17:52] <DJones> opendown: I have a lenovo Y510p, don't have any issues with Ubuntu 16.10 (not using lxde though)
[17:53] <thrmo> is there any ubuntu flavor that comes with cinnamon by default?
[17:53] <popey> no
[17:53] <opendown> Djones, weird thing I can't figure out what triggers sticky middle button
[17:53] <opendown> or find anywhere how to disable that feature
[17:54] <opendown> if that's a feature :)
[17:54] <DJones> opendown: Not sure, I normally use a standard mouse, but haven't noticed any issues using the trackpad apart from being very sensitive
[17:56] <DJones> thrmo: As far as I'm aware, its only available by installing as a 2nd desktop environment from the repositories
[17:58] <thrmo> could i somehow do it by starting from a server install DJones? i don't want it as a 2nd desktop environment
[17:58] <thrmo> i did that using mate already
[17:58] <thrmo> i want to start cleanly with cinnamon alone
[17:59] <DJones> thrmo: I'm not sure, in theory it should work, or you could use the minimal install iso to install from which lets you select what you want to install
[17:59] <DJones> !minimal | thrmo
[17:59] <thrmo> humm
[18:00] <thrmo> that minimal one seems to be what i'm looking for, ty!
[18:00] <DJones> thrmo: Its not something I've tried, but good luck if you go that way
[18:01] <thrmo> DJones, yup i'm gonna try it
[18:01] <opendown> thrmo: I've used minimal a lot, you can customize it the way you want it works perfectly fine
[18:02] <opendown> I use it for actual minimal installation without X  running only few daemons
[18:03] <scootergrisen> Where can i see what translations are included in the Ubuntu live ISO?
[18:03] <thrmo> opendown, shouldn't i install X before installing cinnamon tho?
[18:03] <opendown> thrmo: i believe it will be in dependencies ;)
[18:04] <parabool> pavlos, haxdoe13 http://imgur.com/a/mHrxQ
[18:05] <thrmo> opendown, is there any sort of guide, just to take a look if needed?
[18:05] <haxdoe13> parabool: this is weird
[18:06] <parabool> haxdoe13, basically i DD'd an iso on it, i aborted halfway and i then did it again(with another iso). that's how i made this mess
[18:09] <haxdoe13> parabool: you can try windows lol
[18:10] <opendown> thrmo: guide on minimal installation ? sure
[18:10] <opendown> thrmo: cinnamon I'm not sure even what it is :)
[18:10] <parabool> haxdoe13, no windows install to test the USB on
[18:10] <thrmo> a DE opendown
[18:10] <parabool> fml
[18:10] <thrmo> i just want a guide on minimal installation tho
[18:11] <pavlos> parabool, for some reason, sda shows as 603MB eventhough you said it is a 2GB usb
[18:11] <opendown> oh that's available
[18:11] <parabool> pavlos, yeah, check the terminal.
[18:11] <parabool> it says 1.9GB
[18:12] <k1l_> thrmo: install the cinnamon pacakge and make sure a *dm is isntalled, like lightdm
[18:12] <opendown> thrmo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:13] <opendown> thrmo what do you like about cinnamon ?
[18:13] <pavlos> parabool, sda is 1.9 but sda1 is 613 and sda2 is 30 (from lsblk
[18:13] <thrmo> opendown, i just like it more than the other options i guess
[18:13] <thrmo> xfce being a close second
[18:13] <opendown> I stick with LXDE for a long while and love it
[18:14] <parabool> pavlos, indeed. i need to remove sda1 and sda2.
[18:14] <opendown> xfce is now bloated almost as gnome
[18:14] <Southern_Gentlem> opendown, i totally disagree
[18:14] <pavlos> parabool, but the image below shows 603 unallocated, where is sda1 and 2?
[18:14] <OerHeks> bloated is an opinion
[18:15] <pavlos> parabool, tell gparted to refresh devices
[18:15] <opendown> well lets say its much heavier then what it use to be, and lxde is much lighter
[18:15] <opendown> and yes it's my personal opinion
[18:15] <parabool> pavlos, it tells me invalid partition table, recursive partition on /dev/sda
[18:15] <Southern_Gentlem> opendown, depends on each persons use case
[18:16] <pavlos> parabool, try, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda and pastebin
[18:16] <opendown>  Southern_Gentlem: agree, and perhaps experience
[18:17] <opendown>  Southern_Gentlem:: some need "make me happy" buttons :)
[18:17] <pavlos> parabool, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:18] <parabool> pavlos, http://dpaste.com/15XGX7P
[18:19] <pavlos> parabool, using fdisk, try to delete partition 1 and then do the same pastebin as above
[18:21] <parabool> pavlos, http://termbin.com/886c2
[18:22] <pavlos> parabool, sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M
[18:22] <pavlos> parabool, then using gparted see if sda is 2GB
[18:25] <tonyt> i installed lxde and rebooted but didnt see the option to change to a lxde session. is there a way to fix that?
[18:25] <parabool> pavlos, http://imgur.com/a/Nv3x9  weird
[18:29] <Bashing-om> tonyt: One expects to see a dropdown in the login box by clicking on an icon in the upper right corner . Do you not get this ability ?
[18:29] <opendown> tonyt: logout first
[18:30] <opendown> then like Bashing-om said change the default session
[18:30] <opendown> top right corner
[18:30] <tonyt> bashing no
[18:30] <tonyt> i dont have no option in the top right to choose
[18:30] <opendown> what do you c when logout ?
[18:30] <tonyt> i logged out and tried and i rebooted the machine
[18:31] <tonyt> i can name all the option but there is nothing available to choose the desktop session
[18:31] <tonyt> *cant name
[18:31] <opendown> what dm r u using ?
[18:31] <parabool> pavlos, the warning is an unrecognized disk label
[18:32] <tonyt> the default that comes with ubuntu opendown
[18:32] <pavlos> parabool, dd gave you error so let's modify the dd line, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[18:32] <tonyt> unity i think its called
[18:32] <sveinse> I'm trying to manually mount a win server (domain at work). I can connect and list using smbclient, but I get permission denied on "mount -t cifs". What is wrong? I'm running 16.04
[18:32] <tonyt> oh dn, it lightdm
[18:32] <tonyt> the default
[18:32] <tonyt> *dm
[18:32] <pavlos> parabool, this should overwrite the MBR, 512 bytes
[18:33] <parabool> pavlos, http://imgur.com/a/qUctH
[18:33] <opendown> 16.10 I assume ?
[18:33] <pavlos> parabool, gparted no longer sees sda?
[18:34] <opendown> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[18:34] <parabool> pavlos, it does. 512B now
[18:34] <pavlos> parabool, lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:35] <parabool> pavlos, http://termbin.com/tbrg
[18:36] <pavlos> parabool, I dont get it, we asked gparted to wipe everything. it still shows sda1 and sda2 even though fdisk shows no partitions
[18:37] <parabool> pavlos, http://termbin.com/1erq
[18:37] <parabool> that's fdisk -l /dev/sda
[18:38] <Bashing-om> tonyt: opendown Share in a pastebin ' ls -al /usr/share/xsessions ; echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' we see what we have installed to work with .
[18:38] <pavlos> parabool, this is just a simple usb stick, 2GB
[18:40] <parabool> i *think* so, but why would it show up 15 or 16gb earlier ?
[18:40] <parabool> it's a stick i got from a company, i can't actually read how big it is on it.
[18:41] <tonyt> k ill try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[18:42] <pavlos> parabool, there is a disks utility (dash, look for disks), see if that tool helps
[18:43] <tonyt> that workeed opendown. thanks
[18:43] <parabool> pavlos, i can't delete nor format the partitions in there
[18:44] <pavlos> parabool, I use gparted but have no idea why it cannot wipe everything and reformat to ext4 or ntfs
[18:44] <parabool> pavlos, ok i will keep looking around. thanks for the help, i'll let you know how i fixed it
[18:45] <pavlos> parabool, k
[18:51] <sm0k3r> hy
[18:51] <sm0k3r> some here ?
[18:51] <Dreaman> no
[18:51] <deadmoras> hello guys, i can't edit any file with mc (file manager). when i start edit (f4), me get back to console with nubmers. but i can see any file without problems
[18:52] <deadmoras> how i can fix it?
[18:52] <OerHeks> "any file" owned by your user should work, inside your ~/Home/ folder that is.
[18:53] <opendown> OerHeks he's talking about editor
[18:53] <OerHeks> else you need sudo
[18:53] <opendown> http://askubuntu.com/questions/16776/how-to-switch-the-editor-in-mc-midnight-commander-from-nano-to-mcedit
[18:53] <opendown> old but might work
[18:53] <OerHeks> files from /dev/random are pretty hard to open :-P
[18:53] <deadmoras> can't anyway
[18:53] <deadmoras> i have 1900 in terminal
[18:54] <deadmoras> after f4 (edit)
[18:54] <opendown> deadmoras:
[18:54] <deadmoras> but i can see this file without problems
[18:54] <opendown> I assume you need to change editor to mcedit
[18:54] <deadmoras> i have this editor )
[18:54] <deadmoras> last version
[18:56] <deadmoras> http://rgho.st/7dCRSCHjS
[18:56] <deadmoras> after f4
[18:56] <deadmoras> http://rgho.st/7dCRSCHjS
[18:56] <deadmoras> after f3
[18:57] <opendown> same screenshot
[18:57] <deadmoras> aww
[18:57] <deadmoras> me sorry, sec
[18:58] <deadmoras> http://rgho.st/7BlCpGZWf
[18:58] <opendown> do the F9 > Option> make sure "use internal edit" is checked
[18:58] <deadmoras> it's correct
[18:59] <deadmoras> from right panel?
[18:59] <deadmoras> i have russian language and not a very correct translated :c
[18:59] <opendown> it's ok I speak russian
[18:59] <deadmoras> :D
[18:59] <deadmoras> Встроенный ?
[18:59] <opendown> да
[18:59] <genii> !ru
[18:59] <deadmoras> Мне нужно поставить их?
[18:59] <deadmoras> Ну, галочки
[19:00] <opendown> да
[19:00] <deadmoras> Просмотр и редактор, так?
[19:00] <opendown> да редактор внутренний укажи
[19:00] <deadmoras> Вот, все
[19:00] <deadmoras> Спасибо )
[19:00] <deadmoras> Теперь все работает, спасибо большое)
[19:00] <opendown> не за что:) сам пользуюсь сразу понял о чём речь
[19:01] <deadmoras> И еще. я могу редактировать файлы которые находятся в /home? Другие не могу?
[19:01] <OerHeks> guys, english only please, thanks.
[19:01] <OerHeks> !ru
[19:01] <genii> deadmoras and opendown ... If support is going to be given in russian, please use the #ubuntu-ru channel instead
[19:01] <deadmoras> okay, sorry
[19:02] <opendown> yes sorry moved
[19:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[19:05] <dibutu> Does anyone know how to fix this error when trying to install rails: ERROR:  Error installing rails: 	ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.      current directory: /var/lib/gems/2.3.0/gems/nokogiri-1.7.0.1/ext/nokogiri /usr/bin/ruby2.3 -r ./siteconf20170221-11313-1sibl20.rb extconf.rb mkmf.rb can't find header files for ruby at /usr/lib/ruby/include/ruby.h
[19:06] <dibutu> the issue seems to be with nokogiri as a lot of things seem to be dependent on it, but i cant install it because i get the same error
[19:06] <nacc> dibutu: afaict, that file is not shipped by any ubuntu package (ruby.h)
[19:07] <nacc> dibutu: is there a reason you can't just install the rails pacage from ubuntu?
[19:07] <dibutu> gem install rails?
[19:07] <nacc> dibutu: `apt install rails`
[19:08] <dibutu> all of the install guides say to install it the other way. I assume they know how to package things up to avoid future problems
[19:09] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install ruby-dev ??
[19:09] <nacc> dibutu: can't really help with that, sorry -- don't know enough myself
[19:09] <dibutu> thanks anyway, nacc
[19:10] <dibutu> well i want to resolve this issue because I think it's going to be an issue for a lot of things
[19:10] <alkisg> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/ruby-on-rails.html
[19:10] <nacc> OerHeks: afaict, ships mruby.h but not ruby.h and not in that path anyways (/usr/lib/ruby/include)
[19:11] <OerHeks> oh oke, was a wild shot
[19:12] <dibutu> the ubuntu rails guide install says I need to get apache and mysql. I prefer postrgesql and don't plan on using apache
[19:12] <nacc> OerHeks: ack, just was an fyi
[19:23] <discopaulo> Hi. How do I get AMD Crimson Relive? I've installed drivers from their site (16.60) but I don't see the control panel anywhere. I want to set up Eyefinity for Civ 5.
[19:24] <newusers> Can anyone help me with bypassing a root password?
[19:25] <Whiskey> -/etc/letsencrypt/live <-- How do i get my user whiskey read access in that folder?
[19:28] <nacc> newusers: what do you mean? if you don't have root access on a machine, there is presuambly good reason
[19:30] <alkisg> Whiskey, what's the output of ls -la /etc/letsencrypt/live? is it owned by root:root, or by some special group?
[19:30] <Whiskey> root i think
[19:30] <Whiskey> but i maybe do a another work around for it in apache
[19:30] <Whiskey> maybe smarter
[19:32] <Poo> XD
[19:45] <Chaser> /buffer 11
[19:48] <James_Freewall> * Cannot join #centos (You are banned).
[19:48] <James_Freewall> :(
[19:50] <k1l_> James_Freewall: #freenode for non ubuntu channel issues
[19:50] <travel> Hey guys need assistance with elementary os
[19:51] <k1l_> !elementary | travel
[19:51] <James_Freewall> travel: delete it
[19:52] <travel> Why should i delete it?
[19:53] <James_Freewall> i miss gnome2
[19:53] <travel> Thank you Kil
[19:53] <nacc> James_Freewall: please take chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:53] <James_Freewall> nah
[19:56] <James_Freewall> bye nacc
[20:01] <sfdgsdfg> hello
[20:01] <James_Freewall> sup dude
[20:02] <chopparu> hello
[20:02] <quesker> with apt-get can I restore perms to a file?  how?
[20:03] <quesker> the file is /etc/shadow if anyone has the perms from 12.04
[20:04] <Bashing-om> quesker: No, apt is for manageing packages . for permisiions ya want the 'chown' command . see ' man chown '.
[20:04] <wedgie> unless quesker means restore files installed by a package to their "default" permissions...
[20:05] <Bashing-om> quesker: Ouch ! messing about with permissions on system files is a great way to break the system .
[20:06] <quesker> restore default permissions yes
[20:06] <quesker> pretty sure rpm can do it
[20:06] <quesker> not apt-get?
[20:06] <wedgie> quesker: don't have 12.04 around to look at but /etc/shadow is 640, root:shadow on my 16.04 system
[20:06] <quesker> ok thanks
[20:07] <Zewwy> +1 for 16.04
[20:07] <Zewwy> Server edition with no GUI is so lean and working chipper, Love it
[20:14] <diverdude> Hi there. I have ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop and there is no audio. WHy is my audio not working?
[20:15] <Bashing-om> !sound | diverdude
[20:16] <AlmostHuman> hello people
[20:16] <stigma_wizard> hello
[20:21] <diverdude> boshhead: i have already checked all those things and it looks ok
[20:21] <diverdude> Bashing-om: i really have no idea what to do now
[20:23] <diverdude> how do i find out why my audio is not working?
[20:25] <AlmostHuman> servidor de amsterdan, interessante
[20:26] <Bashing-om> diverdude: If the above guide does not give hints, I do not know  - I too have very limited experience with audio .
[20:26] <quesker> is dash not posix?
[20:27] <nacc> quesker: dash is strictly posix. bash is not.
[20:29] <quesker> don't ask why all the parens are in here but this still should be posix and breaks in dash  out=$((grep root /etc/passwd) 2>>/dev/null)
[20:31] <wedgie> $(( is a bash extension, i believe. Not sure if it is in dash
[20:31] <giuseppe_> hi everyone, i'm trying to use a second monitor that I attached by HDMI, the problem is that when I go in settings the monitor is detected like a 7" in reality it is a 28", so a piece of the screen is unusable, can anyone help me? thanks :)
[20:32] <vanhuong> hola mundo
[20:32] <k1l_> dash doesnt have all features of bash. that is why its the slim standard for scripts. if you want bash use the shebang to set it to use bash
[20:32] <wedgie> oh wait, that' snot what that is
[20:32] <nacc> quesker: i wonder if it's a parsing issue. I'm not sure how the shell can disambiguate?
[20:32] <quesker> what a bummer.  that code works in every lame hpux, solaris, aix, redhat, suse and osx /bin/sh
[20:33] <nacc> quesker: note using {} instead of () for the inner brackets does work in dash
[20:33] <k1l_> quesker: again, debian and ubuntu use dash as standard for non interactive shells. you can set it to bash if you like or use shebang
[20:34] <vanhuong> wao... I don´t known that exist this world.
[20:34] <wedgie> quesker: it fails for me too in sh on freebsd
[20:35] <quesker> wow
[20:35] <nacc> quesker: and `man dash` indicates (list) is the same as { list; }
[20:35] <nacc> quesker: and less ambiguous
[20:35] <nacc> quesker: well, except for subshelling, but i'm not sure it's relevant to your use-case
[20:35] <NoSudo> Hey, i know that using sudo to run gem install commands is bad. I have rbenv installed but I still can't run gem commands without sudo. I get: /var/lib/gems/2.3.0 directory". Do you guys know what's up?
[20:36] <quesker> I will probably just change the #! to /bin/bash which is easier than changing the thing that generates this code
[20:36] <quesker> since I can be sure bash will be installed on ubuntu
[20:37] <NoSudo> Also, if there a way to hide Join / Quit notices in this IRC?
[20:37] <NoSudo> is*
[20:38] <ckb> Hey guys.. Looks like my PHP CLI doesn’t have mysql support enabled. I’ve googled plenty of articles and have had no luck. I can’t even find the configure command used to compile php… can anyone help?
[20:38] <Bashing-om> NoSudo: Not a support issue but in irssi - > ' /ignore #channel JOINS QUITS ' .
[20:38] <ckb> I’ve even tried using apache2’s php.ini and that didn’t work… So I’m guessing it’s a compilation issue..
[20:39] <k1l_> !quietirc | NoSudo
[20:39] <Southern_Gentlem> NoSudo, that would be in your irc client
[20:39] <wedgie> quesker: note that it *does* work if written like this: out=$( (grep root /etc/passwd) 2>> /dev/null)    (note the extra space)
[20:39] <quesker> ah good idea
[20:39] <quesker> thanks
[20:39] <wedgie> i think it interprets $(( as somthing other than a command substitution with a subshell inside
[20:39] <BluesKaj> `
[20:40] <wedgie> quesker: I know you said not to ask, but I gotta.... why the subshell at all? Why not out=$(grep root /etc/passwd)   ?
[20:41] <quesker> I'm trying to remember why I did that.  the code inside could have pipes, not sure if that matters with saving stderr.  I wrote that stuff many years ago
[20:43] <wedgie> you're appending stderr to /dev/null anyway...
[20:43] <coffeeguy> hi if i install gnome desktop will i have to redo any settings?
[20:44] <quesker> the real code issomething more like out=$((grep foo bar | awk | something) 2>>$errfile)     do I not need the subshell for that?  heh
[20:44] <coffeeguy> like unity tweak tool stuff
[20:44] <quesker> there must have been a reason but I can't remember it
[20:45] <quesker> that code inside the () is provided by someone else, I read it from xml and generate this crazy script from it
[20:45] <wedgie> i think {} would work instead of a subshell, which is what nacc said 15 mins ago
[20:46] <k1l_> coffeeguy: the unity-tweak-tool is for unity, and you want to install and use the gnome-shell
[20:46] <coffeeguy> hehe yes i do
[20:46] <EriC^^> quesker: so the error propagates from the first command also to wherever you redirected it
[20:46] <coffeeguy> :)
[20:46] <quesker> ah ok
[20:47] <wedgie> quesker: anyway, I think we're getting pretty OT for #ubuntu. Probably better to ask further questions about that in #bash (they do posix sh too)
[20:47] <quesker> yep thanks
[20:48] <scootergrisen> Can anyone help me get danish translation into the Ubuntu ISO's?
[20:51] <joci1> hii
[20:52] <coffeeguy> k1l_, gdm3 or lightdm?
[20:53] <joci1> I got a little issue, when i start watch a movie  my screen starts to turn off for a couple of milisecond randomly, what could couse this annoying issue?
[20:55] <NoSudo> @ubottu, thanks for the command
[20:56] <coffeeguy> k1l_, from a security stand point for optimal security would i stick with unity or go gnome since unity is going away from gnome?
[20:56] <nacc> ckb: how are you determining this?
[20:56] <nacc> ckb: and have you installed the mysql extension? what version of ubuntu and php?
[20:56] <k1l_> coffeeguy: unity uses the same gnome base as gnome-shell does. from the security point of view that doesnt matter.
[21:02] <joci1> I got a little issue, when i start watch a movie  my screen starts to turn off for a couple of milisecond randomly, what could couse this annoying issue?
[21:10] <ckb> nacc: I figured out my problem. /bin/php wasn’t compiled with mysql support, however on ubuntu php5 was. Kind of strange.
[21:10] <ckb> nacc: I have 2 different installations of php on this machine...
[21:12] <CodeMouse92__> I'm about to backup my home folder using rsync, so I can put it back on a fresh install of Ubuntu if necessary...
[21:12] <CodeMouse92__> I know the typical approach is to use the -a (archive) flag, but that also preserves permissions. Would that cause problems if I rsync it onto a new Ubuntu install?
[21:13] <bekks> CodeMouse92__: No.
[21:21] <nacc> ckb: is /bin/php from ubuntu?
[21:21] <ckb> nacc: more than likely
[21:21] <nacc> ckb: and /bin/php as in PHP7? Is this 16.04?
[21:21] <ckb> php5 is from php5-mysql
[21:21] <ckb> 14.04
[21:22] <wolftune> Hi folks, I have an SSD in an external enclosure where I've cloned / to a partition there and have a FAT32 partition for efi boot. How do I install grub now on the new drive?
[21:22] <ppf> wolftune: grub-install
[21:23] <wolftune> ppf: right, I mean, I don't know grub-install options well, so how do I make sure it installs the right thing to the right place on the new drive, using EFI correctly?
[21:23] <ppf>  grub-install [OPTION...] [OPTION] [INSTALL_DEVICE]
[21:24] <wolftune> I've read several things but got so mixed up. I had followed some instructions that were not EFI and that failed, so now I'm set to do it right I think
[21:24] <ppf> check out man grub-install
[21:28] <Shtene> https://www.facebook.com/IdiotNaDena/videos/641256369415664/ :))
[21:29] <bazhang> Shtene, never post that here
[21:29] <kur1j> I'm trying to install Nvidia drivers on an Ubuntu 16.04 system using the PPA "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa" I run the installation of "sudo apt-get install nvidia-375"
[21:29] <kur1j> but the problem is it installs the X Windows
[21:29] <kur1j> is there a way to get JUST the driver
[21:30] <ppf> why install it through a ppa?
[21:31] <ppf> get the official one
[21:32] <kur1j> the one from NVidia compiles it into the kernel
[21:32] <ppf> what
[21:32] <ppf> no
[21:32] <kur1j> the run file compiles it and links it with the kernel
[21:33] <ppf> it builds a kernel module, yes
[21:33] <Gabriel> Hi
[21:33] <ppf> that's what you call a "driver"
[21:33] <kur1j> ppf: so there is no way around someoen upgrading the kernel and not breaking the GPU driver?
[21:34] <ppf> there is, it's called dkms
[21:34] <ppf> the package you get from nvidia hooks into that
[21:34] <kur1j> hmmm, last I tried that when I updated my kernel it broke
[21:34] <ppf> you should try to stick to the official packages though
[21:35] <ppf> yes, that happens
[21:35] <ppf> but rarely
[21:35] <kur1j> hmmm, I'll try it
[21:36] <kur1j> i just could have sworn last time I did, it just broke (which is why I was looking at ppa)
[21:36] <Gabriel> Is it possible to ssh into my computer, and view the same terminal thats om the computer screen? (I forgot to start a screen session)
[21:36] <ppf> ppas break just as often
[21:36] <ppf> just use the offical driver!
[21:37] <lerner> now that I have a ton of commands memorized in the shell, is thereanyway of search them?
[21:37] <ppf> i think the latest one is 367 on xenial
[21:37] <lerner> instead of looking one by one with the up arrow key?
[21:37] <ppf> Gabriel: no, not without screen or any other kind of terminal multiplexer
[21:38] <thewhitefu> find ~ -name ls -print
[21:38] <bekks> lerner: "history".
[21:38] <ppf> lerner: ctrl+r
[21:38] <lerner> thewhitefu, was that for me?
[21:38] <Gabriel> Is it possible to ssh into my computer, and view the same terminal thats om the computer screen? (I forgot to start a screen session)
[21:38] <ppf> Gabriel: no, not without screen or any other kind of terminal multiplexer
[21:38] <Gabriel> Ok :(
[21:39] <BluesKaj> lerner, categorize the commands in a text file that you can easily reference
[21:39] <Anthaas_> Hi, if at commandline I want to run a command on any file in any subdirectory that matches *.xyz, how can I do this?
[21:39] <Anthaas_> foo **/*.xyz doesnt work
[21:39] <ppf> lerner: nah, just use ctrl+r
[21:39] <Anthaas_> It tries to match the literal "**/*.xyz"
[21:39] <ppf> Anthaas_: what's your shell?
[21:39] <Whiskey> -/etc/letsencrypt/live <-- How do i get my user whiskey read access in that folder?
[21:39] <Anthaas_> bash
[21:40] <lerner> ok
[21:40] <rigel__> Whiskey: chmod?
[21:41] <ppf> Anthaas_: shopt -s globstar
[21:41] <Gabriel> So I have to wait until I'm able to be physically present at my machine?  My problem is that I started an update (on rasbian-debian), and now it hasn't finished probably because of "yes/no" pop-ups
[21:41] <Anthaas_> ppf: Say what now?
[21:41] <ppf> to enable double asterisk in bash
[21:41] <Anthaas_> Ahhh thanks
[21:41] <Whiskey> rigel__ and more? i don´t know anything i try to google it but i don´t understand
[21:41] <Whiskey> atm, only root have access to it
[21:42] <tepas> hi
[21:42] <Anthaas_> ppf: Didnt work
[21:42] <k1l_> Gabriel: ask the raspbian support if they spawn a screen or such for upgrades
[21:42] <rigel__> Look up basics of Linux file permissions. That should also tell you how to change it
[21:42] <k1l_> Gabriel: raspbian is not ubuntu. so ask them
[21:42] <tepas> español habla alguien
[21:42] <ppf> Anthaas_: sohuld work
[21:42] <k1l_> !es | tepas
[21:42] <ppf> what ubuntu are you on?
[21:43] <tepas> ok nice
[21:43] <Gabriel> Kk :) thx anyway
[21:43] <Anthaas_> ppf: 14.04
[21:43] <ppf> !info bash trusty
[21:44] <ppf> should work. what exactly did you do?
[21:44] <Anthaas_> Typed the command you said into the shell, hit enter, and then tried foo **/*.xyz and got: File **/*.xyz not found
[21:45] <ppf> and you're sure such files exist?
[21:45] <Anthaas_> Absolutely.
[21:45] <coffeeguy> so umm man :(
[21:45] <ppf> no idea why it's not working for you
[21:45] <Anthaas_> **/* means any file ending in .xyz in this directory and all subdirectories, right?
[21:46] <kur1j> ppf: so the run file driver on the Nvidia website is using DKMS?
[21:46] <Anthaas_> **/*.xyz that is
[21:46] <ppf> Anthaas_: yes, recursively
[21:46] <ppf> kur1j: yes. why is 367 not enough for you?
[21:46] <wedgie> Anthaas_: did you enable globstar? might not be enabled by default: ''shopt -s globstar''
[21:46] <ppf> Anthaas_: here's another way to do it: find -name '*.xyz' | xargs foo
[21:46] <Anthaas_> wedgie: Yeah, I ran that command
[21:46] <Whiskey> rigel__: well "sudo useradd -G root whiskey" not working
[21:47] <rigel__> No, it's chmod u+rx dirname
[21:47] <kur1j> ppf: Have Titan X Pascal
[21:47] <rigel__> That's group stuff
[21:47] <Anthaas_> The actual command is: jjtree **/*.jjt && javacc **/*.jj && javac -cp "[SOME PATH]" **/*.java
[21:47] <Whiskey> rigel__: it will not change access to me right, it will just access and keep the root access as well?
[21:47] <Anthaas_> I don't fancy adding more piping into that haha
[21:48] <wedgie> no, don't pipe find to xargs. use find -exec, or, if you must, find -print0 | xargs -0
[21:48] <rigel__> Who is the owner?
[21:48] <Whiskey> root
[21:48] <Whiskey> and it has to stay as owner
[21:48] <Anthaas_> For all of those commands, I am getting no file **/*.jjt found, no file **/*.jj found, no file **/*.java found
[21:48] <rigel__> Then instead of u+rx, do o+rx
[21:48] <nacc> ckb: php5 is not compiled with mysql support, generally, it's a loadable extension
[21:48] <Anthaas_> This is what sucks when there is no IDE support for jjtree
[21:48] <ppf> kur1j: alright, then you should get the one from nvidia
[21:49] <nacc> ckb: if you can provide more precise information, i'd like to know if you've found a real bug
[21:49] <wedgie> Anthaas_: you probably want to be asking this in #bash
[21:49] <ppf> Anthaas_: considered Ant
[21:49] <lerner> when somebody writes foo.bar, foo is a generic name and bar is the filetype, correct?
[21:50] <ppf> fwiw, try the find command above, although it's super ugly
[21:50] <ppf> lerner: no, that's windows
[21:50] <ckb> nacc: there’s no mysql.so in /usr/lib/php/
[21:50] <ppf> lerner: the filetype is whatever type the file has
[21:50] <Anthaas_> ppf: Ant is lols, but Ive tried a more modern build system: gradle, and it fell apart.
[21:50] <nacc> ckb: /usr/lib/php isn't used in 14.04 iirc
[21:50] <ckb> ./user/lib/cli/***
[21:51] <ckb> nacc: I have no idea. This is a standard rackspace VM image of 14.04
[21:51] <Whiskey> thanks
[21:51] <nacc> ckb: mysql.so is in /usr/lib/php5/20121212/mysql.so
[21:51] <nacc> ckb: can you pastebin `php --version` and `php5 --version`?
[21:52] <lerner> is foo.bar used to program linux?
[21:52] <ppf> lerner: what?
[21:52] <ppf> you're not making sense
[21:53] <wedgie> lerner: foo and bar are just placeholders people use. They don't have any specific meaning.
[21:53] <ckb> nacc: http://pastebin.com/iBmrfyCh
[21:53] <lerner> ok, thanks
[21:53] <wedgie> like a "widget" or a "thingamajig"
[21:53] <ppf> .bar in your example is called the filename extension
[21:53] <nacc> ckb: the first is from a PPA
[21:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> lerner, yep place holders
[21:53] <nacc> ckb: the second is the Ubuntu version
[21:53] <ppf> foo.bar being the filename or basename
[21:53] <nacc> ckb: *if* that is the stock rackspace image (i'd be surprised if it was, but i also don't work for rackspace), then they have enabled ondrej's ppa by default
[21:54] <nacc> ckb: and more than likely you just need to install the appropriate mysql package from the same PPA
[21:54] <ckb> nacc: possibly… php -m doesn’t have mysql listed at all
[21:54] <nacc> ckb: right, because you haven't installed it
[21:55] <ckb> I couldn’t figure out how. ha
[21:55] <Jambonor> I'm trying to set up two ubuntu computers on a physical network together via terminal.  No router or anything.  I don't know what to google for to find a method for this.  Anybody?
[21:55] <nacc> ckb: you would need to look at the PPA and install the correct package, I don't know what it would be called and PPAs are not supported (strictly speaking)
[21:55] <wedgie> Jambonor: all they need are IP addresses on the same subnet.
[21:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Jambonor, I think may need something in between anyway  a hub at least
[21:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but could be wrong
[21:56] <MK> hey guys, I installed kubuntu-desktop to test it and I like it, but it also evidently rendered Unity unusable... would uninstalling Unity and just using KDE from now on be easy for me to do? Or would you recommend just reinstalling and using Kubuntu instead?
[21:56] <Jambonor> wedgie: so ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10/24 on each machine (with different ips obviously)?
[21:56] <wedgie> Jambonor: pretty much it. How are they connected together?
[21:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> mk kubuntu  should install without effecting unity
[21:56] <MK> I ran into this bug, I'm afraid https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1451728
[21:56] <wedgie> Jambonor: that won't persist a reboot, you'll need to edit /etc/network/interfaces for that, but it should work
[21:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> mk you can try and purge ubuntu or kubuntu but difficulter since meta pckages
[21:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !removekde
[21:57] <Jambonor> wedgie:  a hub, and two patch cables.  All the gear works.  If I unplug from this network and just plug in to the router from my ISP, they can both get an internet connection.
[21:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> mk not sure  what debfoster is but hmm, and  i didn't know there was a command
[21:57] <Jambonor> But the above method doesn't connect them.
[21:57] <coffeeguy> hehe anyone have a link for ditching gnome and going back to unity in ubu 16.04?
[21:57] <Jambonor> Even though ifconfig looks like they are.
[21:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> coffeeguy, uhmm unity is based on gnome for various othr things
[21:58] <coffeeguy> that's fine but unity is going away from gnome i thought
[21:58] <ppf> Jambonor: how do you check whether they're connected?
[21:58] <MK> I installed MATE to test it and was able to use and then uninstall it without issue, thankfully. But apparently Unity and KDE right now cannot be on the same system due to a package conflict :( So, which meta package should I uninstall? ubuntu-desktop?
[21:59] <Jambonor> ppf: pinging each others IPs.
[21:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> coffeeguy, unity 7 will stay gnome based with compiz.  unity  8 on the other hand uses qt qml or whatever
[21:59] <Jambonor> Both machines let pings out, and can ping each other when on the ISP's router's network.
[21:59] <ppf> can you paste the output of ifconfig on both machines?
[21:59] <coffeeguy> well i used the ubuntu help for getting rid of gnome-desktop and now unity is screwed up?
[21:59] <ppf> and also ip route, please
[21:59] <coffeeguy> everything is going qt
[22:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> coffeeguy, unity should be ok sty, even if you removed gnome shell
[22:00] <ppf> do you have network manager running? or are you using /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> coffeeguy, and gnome shell should stay, if you removed unity
[22:00] <coffeeguy> still getting the loading scream for gdm though on  system start up
[22:00] <coffeeguy> screen* lol
[22:00] <Jambonor> ppf: here: http://pastebin.com/n1jbmYfF
[22:01] <Jambonor> ppf: both machines are terminal only.
[22:01] <coffeeguy> and there's residual stuff like scaling is out of wack
[22:01] <coffeeguy> i should've specified that i had a 4k screen :|
[22:02] <Jambonor> ppf: and ip route: http://pastebin.com/d6F9ezwq
[22:02] <coffeeguy> hmm back to the how-to's ciao
[22:03] <Jambonor> both machines are connected to the internet and a different mutual network via their wlan0 (which is how I'm connected to them).
[22:04] <noise_> hi where can i find package of ddd? and gcc-python3-plugin?
[22:04] <noise_> it does noyt show up in the default search
[22:04] <k1l_> !info gcc-python3-plugin
[22:04] <k1l_> noise_: what ubunut are you on exactly and is universe enabled?
[22:04] <Pici> noise_: you need to be running 16.04 or later.
[22:05] <ppf> Jambonor: doesnt mean that nm isn't doing the networking
[22:05] <Jambonor> Hmm, well, I wouldn't know how to check.
[22:06] <Jambonor> Still though, according to ifconfig they should be on the same machine.
[22:06] <ppf> Jambonor: which of the connections is the one in question? eth0?
[22:07] <Jambonor> yes, eth0 in both cases, all the other stuff is to do with docker, and I doubt is the problem.
[22:07] <kur1j> ppf: I don't quite see how the ".run" file is going to work with other kernels if it is asking for a linux kernel headers
[22:07] <kur1j> if its compiling against them, ill just have to redo this when someone updates the kernel
[22:07] <kur1j> would I not?
[22:08] <ppf> that's what dkms does
[22:08] <ppf> it'll recompile a module for every new kernel
[22:08] <kur1j> so in the background it will do it?
[22:08] <ppf> yes
[22:08] <ppf> well, in the foreground, technically
[22:09] <ppf> it's a hook in the apt upgrade sequence
[22:09] <kur1j> ah
[22:16] <ppf> Jambonor: eth0 on your second machine looks weird.
[22:16] <ppf> there is no traffic going on
[22:16] <Jambonor> I think there's no traffic on either, the traffic showing on the first one is from it was plugged in to a different network I think.
[22:17] <Jambonor> I assume at least.
[22:17] <ppf> plug the second eth0 into another network?
[22:18] <Jambonor> Have before and it worked, will try again.
[22:19] <Jambonor> Yeah, works.  Gets DHCP address from the router on the other network, and can reach the internet and ping other machines on that new network.
[22:24] <Jambonor> And also doesn't work when back on the problem network.
[22:31] <Livingroom> hello linux peoples. question: i want to copy all the .jpg files in a directory tree. can i cp -r /directory/containing/jpgs/*.jpg /destination/folder or need i do something else? i dont want to copy the directory structure to the destination, just the jpgs. thanks!
[22:32] <nacc> Livingroom: why do you need -r?
[22:32] <OerHeks> -R recursive would do yes
[22:32] <nacc> Livingroom: but if you don't want to copy the directory structure, passing -r makes no sense
[22:32] <Livingroom> nacc well i didnt know how else to tell it to recurse subdirectories for .jpg files
[22:33] <nacc> Livingroom: that isn't what your command tells cp to do either
[22:33] <nacc> Livingroom: you would want to say `cp -r /directory/containing/jpgs /destination/folder`
[22:33] <nacc> Livingroom: but then it will copy the directory structure
[22:34] <nacc> Livingroom: a potentially better way would be `find /directory/containing/jpgs -name '*.jpg' -exec cp {} /destination/folder/. \;`
[22:35] <nacc> Livingroom: which will copy any file (or directory) found under /directory/containing/jpgs that matches '*.jpg' to /destination/folder.
[22:36] <Livingroom> nacc thanks!!!
[22:36] <nacc> Livingroom: the version you have will be expanded by the shell first, iiuc, and you will get a resulting command line of `cp -r /directory/containing/jpgs/a.jpg ... /directory/containing/z.jpg /destination/folder` where a.jpg and z.jpg are example jpg files in /directory/containing/jpgs (but not in subdirectories). It doesn't make sense to recurse on files, so the -r operator doesn't do anything.
[22:36] <nacc> Livingroom: does that make sense?
[22:37] <Livingroom> nacc: yes, thanks; i knew that the -r does exact directory tree copy when used with just directory names, didnt know if changing it to a file (*.jpg) changed the meaning. thanks again!
[22:38] <Wulung> any "Ubuntu Wiki Editors" active here ?
[22:39] <nacc> Livingroom: to be clear, the meaning didn't change, but give a file to a recursive operation doesn't mean anything semantically
[22:39] <nacc> Wulung: yes. Why do you ask?
[22:40] <Wulung> this page : wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases need to be updated for 16.04.2 LTS
[22:41] <nacc> Wulung: why?
[22:41] <nacc> Wulung: it's listed in the 'current' box
[22:41] <Livingroom> nacc, i got an error: find: illegal option -- n
[22:42] <nacc> Livingroom: pastebin the command and output?
[22:42] <Wulung> nacc: haha just updated
[22:43] <Wulung> thanks anyway
[22:43] <nacc> Wulung: np
[22:44] <Livingroom> nacc:  nevermind, i think i figured it out
[22:44] <Livingroom> nacc: yes, i screwed it up. i didnt give it an input operator. sorry! :|
[22:44] <Livingroom> also, holy *CRAP* that was fast
[22:45] <Livingroom> nacc: i made a paste anyway though http://pastebin.com/zTEwTL8r
[22:48] <nacc> Livingroom: right, you didn't pass it the directory to find in, looks like it worked the next time
[22:48] <nacc> Livingroom: note you can add operators before -exec so it can be more verbose of what it copies, etc.
[22:48] <Livingroom> nacc yup, sorry i thought since i was *in* the directory i wanted to use, it might work
[22:48] <nacc> Livingroom: in that case you can use '.'
[22:48] <nacc> Livingroom: e.g., `find . ...`
[22:48] <Livingroom> oh right, the dot. i forgot about that
[22:49] <Livingroom> nacc thank you very much though!
[22:49] <nacc> Livingroom: np
[22:51] <Livingroom> nacc: i'm just so happy MacOS is certified unix, the parity of commands in terminal makes my life generally easier. now if i could just remember enough of them from my linux days lol
[22:59] <noise_> k1l_: Pici, i just installed 16.04 desktop
[22:59] <k1l_> noise_: run "sudo apt update"
[23:01] <noise_> k1l_: I did, still does n't show up on search
[23:02] <nacc> noise_: what pacakge did you search from?
[23:02] <k1l_> noise_: is universe enabled?
[23:03] <noise_> http://pastebin.com/ZenHJfza
[23:04] <noise_> there is an application called "ubuntu software"  looks like aptitude used to..
[23:04] <noise_> I searched in that
[23:04] <k1l_> noise_: only security universe is activated
[23:04] <noise_> how do I "enable universe"?
[23:04] <nacc> !components | noise_
[23:05] <k1l_> noise_: go to systemsettings > software and update. then check universe
[23:06] <noise_> Thats the second option right? community maintained free and opensource software ( universe) ?  Itis already selected
[23:08] <k1l_> can you uncheck it and check it again?
[23:09] <dannyLpz> Who is the name for F3, I mean, for F1 is meta2-P
[23:09] <k1l_> after that run "sudo apt update && apt policy gcc-python3-plugin | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:10] <lmw> Where can I find Ubuntu for PowerPC?
[23:10] <genii> !ppc
[23:16] <noise_> I installed synaptic and it can find these packages :)
[23:16] <noise_> hopefully I will be debugging python scripts calling c++ shared libs very soon :) thanks y'all
[23:19] <wyseguy> hey yall
[23:20] <wyseguy> i have wp setup on ubuntu 16.04 with lamp, now trying to be able to send no-reply emails to people through ubuntu, would that be done with this walkthrough? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-on-ubuntu-16-04
[23:40] <ahoneybun> how do I check to see if a driver is loaded and running?
[23:40] <genii> ... lsmod ?
[23:42] <k1l> ahoneybun: driver for what? lspci -nnk
[23:42] <ahoneybun> razer driver
[23:42] <ahoneybun> k1l: ^
[23:43] <ahoneybun> it looks like the keyboard is sending dbus info
[23:44] <k1l> dont know if lsusb lists the module. but it lsmod will
[23:52] <kaosine> ok I'm trying to install server from a usb and it seems to be getting stuck on teh screen once my computer boots it....help?
[23:52] <genii> ahoneybun: For more extensive output, sudo lshw       ( optionally with -C <classname-of-device> ), the line "configuration:" will list device driver
[23:53] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | kaosine Try:
[23:55] <kaosine> Bashing-om: thing is it's not showing a black screen it's telling me that "lvmetad is not active yet, using direct activation during sysinit"
[23:58] <Bashing-om> kaosine: Sorry. LVM is not in my tool box .
[23:59] <kaosine> well crud, especially since I was wanting to install this really quick so I could get up and running with quassel or something as a bouncer XD
[23:59] <Bashing-om> kaosine: Hang loose, there are those here who do know server apps in LVM . Just not me .