=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === JanC_ is now known as JanC === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [10:07] greyback: One more thing: Is there an artificial throttle in QSG somewhere? [10:07] Like if you try to render too quickly it slows you down? [10:09] I'm wondering why the screen class wants to know the refresh rate too... [10:11] Good idea [10:11] * duflu -> EOD === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:34] Do the Unity 8 17.04 and 16.04 + Phone Overlay PPA sessions use Mir by default? Is it possible to use Mir with Unity 7? [13:35] ads20000: no not possible. Unity7 relies on X, which is what Mir is designed to replace. [13:36] is why we have to do unity8 [13:36] X and Mir are so very different [13:36] greyback: OK thank you :) Do the Unity 8 sessions use Mir by default? I thought they could use X too? (I'm probably getting confused) [13:37] ads20000: unity8 uses mir. It cannot use X. [13:38] greyback: I'm asking because I want to reply to this https://github.com/phw/peek/issues/39#issuecomment-281496884 , the dev wants to test using Mir for an app, how can they best do this, maybe you should reply [13:38] greyback: should they use Libertine? Or make a Snap? If using Libertine would it be using XMir? etc [13:38] ads20000: let me reply, I know more about this situatino [13:38] greyback: thank you! :) [13:50] ads20000: ok I replied, did I answer the question ok? [13:52] greyback: That's excellent thank you! My only question would be about the dev environment you suggested, is it a problem that Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and 16.10 use old versions of Unity 8? Quite a while ago some people said they would try to push Unity 8 updates to 16.04 by SRU and to 16.10 but this hasn't happened... [13:53] greyback: I.e., is it OK if they test their application on those old Unity 8 versions? Would it still work on more recent ones? :) [13:56] just an addition to that answer: Ubuntu 16.04 and later comes with Mir and Unity 8 installed by default, it's just not the default shell selected when you log in [13:57] no need to install extra packages or anything [13:57] er, sorry, 16.10 not 16.04 [13:58] my mind said 16.10 and my fingers typed 16.04, I think I need new fingers === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader