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floridagram1<Abrerr> Looking for something that looks nice and is easy to use out of the box.00:54
floridagram1<Abrerr> I've been out of the desktop for a while.00:55
floridagram1<KMyers> Gnome 300:55
floridagram1<ahoneybun> Plasma 501:04
floridagram1<Abrerr> I'm pretty drawn to the pantheon desktop01:05
floridagram1<Abrerr> KDE seems scary01:06
floridagram1<Abrerr> And GNOME -- any recommended addons/gtk themes?01:06
floridagram1<Abrerr> KDE is nice looking at times, no idea how to really use it tho01:06
floridagram1<ahoneybun> Just use it simple01:06
floridagram1<Abrerr> Is there a decent tut out there enumerating all the features?01:07
floridagram1<Abrerr> With KDE aside from point and click I feel like I'm stuck in first gear lol01:08
floridagram1<Abrerr> All the dif view types on the desktop, plasma widget things, bar behavior01:08
floridagram1<Abrerr> :O01:08
floridagram1<Abrerr> You on Kubuntu?01:09
floridagram1<ahoneybun> I am01:11
floridagram1<ahoneybun> On my desktop and laptop01:11
floridagram1<ahoneybun> 17.04 with testing stuff01:11
floridagram1<Abrerr> Was thinking LTS something on my desktop01:11
floridagram1<Abrerr> Cause I need stuff to just work. lol01:12
floridagram1<ahoneybun> Well 16.04 has Plasma 5.8 with our backporta01:12
floridagram1<ahoneybun> "backportw01:12
floridagram1<ahoneybun> backports01:12
floridagram1<Abrerr> How is 16.04 with nvidia driver releases?01:13
floridagram1<Abrerr> Fairly recent? Or do I need a PPA?01:13
floridagram1<ahoneybun> I use a PPA either way01:17
floridagram1<Abrerr> I guess I'll be ok.01:18
floridagram1<Abrerr> I tend to only game for 5 mins once a blue moon anyway.01:19
floridagram1<ahoneybun> The driver PPA has the latest stuff and works well01:21
floridagram1<Abrerr> Oh nice. ok :D01:23
floridagram1<Abrerr> God SSD's are getting cheap. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4NUKME/?tag=pcpapi-2001:25
floridagram1<Abrerr> Now I might as well upgrade to an SSD for some sweet sweet new OS action :D01:26
floridagram1<AdamOutler> Pokemon, now powered by Debian01:35
floridagram<AdamOutler> https://pastebin.adamoutler.com/5tQn03:12
floridagram<AdamOutler> poke trap03:12
maxolasersquadAbrerr, FWIW I had to use the PPA for the nVidia GTX 1050.13:30
maxolasersquadAnd it seems to be working great.13:42
floridagram<KMyers> https://www.engadget.com/2017/02/22/valve-launches-steamvr-support-for-linux/14:25
floridagram<SivaMachina> @ahoneybun, I thought it was hot lingerie 6.917:09
floridagram<whisperit2me> I'm finally trying ubuntu for first time.....big procrastinator, i know. But i dunno how to even start it from my usb stick. Lol20:57
floridagram<whisperit2me> @whisperit2me, I've forgotten everything i learned about how to start it.20:58
floridagram<whisperit2me> Drive labeled: … Ubuntu 16.04 LTS amd6420:59
floridagram<AdamOutler> Well you're in the right place, buddy21:03
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me - what sort of computer do you have again? It has been a while21:04
floridagram<whisperit2me> I'm a girl. 😬21:04
floridagram<whisperit2me> @KMyers, Windows 7, acer netboik21:04
floridagram<AdamOutler> Well, you're in the right place, buddette21:04
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me - he calls everyone buddy21:04
floridagram<KMyers> or that21:05
floridagram<whisperit2me> Lol21:05
floridagram<AdamOutler> Usually you can turn on the computer while hammering F12, F11, F10, F9, and F8 to get a boot device prompt.21:06
floridagram<KMyers> In your case, you will need to power down your computer. Insert the flash drive and tap on either Exc or F12 a few times when turning your computer back on. It should being up a One Time Boot menu, select the flash drive21:06
floridagram<KMyers> Acers are normally F12 but it can vary a bit21:06
floridagram<whisperit2me> @AdamOutler, Oh, i cant use it while comp is on?21:07
floridagram<AdamOutler> If you get into virtualization.  I think they discontinued the WUBI project which installed from inside windows.21:08
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me, You can but would need to install it on a Virtual Machine such as Virtual Box https://www.virtualbox.org/21:08
floridagram<whisperit2me> R the two ways equally secure for things i don't wanna leave a trace anywhere?21:08
floridagram<KMyers> If you go the VirtualBox route, you will need to download the Ubuntu ISO and select it as the boot device. The process is pretty straight forward as there is a wizard.21:09
floridagram<AdamOutler> Boot from the USB device.  Virtualization would require software installation.21:09
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me, The live boot is the most secure option21:09
floridagram<whisperit2me> @KMyers, 👍😉21:09
floridagram<KMyers> @KMyers, As the computer is powered off between switching Operating Systems, the RAM contents are essentially dumped between boots21:10
floridagram<whisperit2me> So anything i do in the ubuntu via usb stick will be traceable only inside the usb stick?21:10
floridagram<KMyers> It is possible to do RAM forensics but not too easy21:10
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me, That is correct, unless you choose to "Install" Ubuntu to the hard disk or mount your hard disk. Otherwise no trace is left on the device or the flash drive of what happened in the session21:11
floridagram<whisperit2me> @whisperit2me, So ppl can get info about wut i do if they get my  usb stick?21:11
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me, Nothing, everything you do is saved into a RAMDisk which is purged when your computer is powered down21:12
floridagram<KMyers> At worse, they would be able to boot into your Ubuntu disk and see a fresh session21:13
floridagram<whisperit2me> @KMyers, Or thr flash drive????? Really??21:13
floridagram<AdamOutler> No.  Mounting hard disks does leave a tracable signature, and connecting to a network will cause a DHCP event, and anything you put on the target computer will remain.  You stick to just using your USB stick and it should be fine though.21:13
floridagram<whisperit2me> Can i save apps in my flash stick ubuntu? To use in my ubuntu?21:14
floridagram<AdamOutler> Yes21:15
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me, Yes, but that can get a bit more complicated. Ubuntu by default has quite a large number of applications pre-installed. Anything specific you need?21:15
floridagram<whisperit2me> @KMyers, Truecrypt, bitcoin app21:16
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me, Your best option then would be to install Ubuntu to the Flash drive and encrypt the installation with a strong password/key. This would allow you to write changes to the flash drive but does land the risk of someone with that encryption key to access your data21:19
floridagram<whisperit2me> @KMyers, Otherwise i cant add apps to it?21:20
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me, Not easily, at least without creating a custom respin21:20
floridagram<KMyers> @AdamOutler - https://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-PXF79-34-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B00PXYRMPE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?&linkCode=ll1&tag=tcz-20&linkId=f883cf5e41d2539f5e761be22a2b284321:21
floridagram<whisperit2me> @KMyers, What is a respin?21:22
floridagram<KMyers> Just a custom build ("spin" is a term some use as a replacement for "building a new release"21:23
floridagram<AdamOutler> @KMyers, Very similar to mine, for a similar price.21:23
floridagram<AdamOutler> @KMyers  the USB drives can apt-get install to a persistent file.  This is standard depending on the install method.21:24
floridagram<AdamOutler> If it was DD'd then no. It's a CD filesystem..  but win32 disk creator something generates a persistent file.21:25
floridagram<KMyers> @AdamOutler, Correct, but based on what she is asking, she does not want persistent changes. So she would need to apt-get install the files on each boot21:25
floridagram<whisperit2me> @KMyers, I need to install truecrypt on each boot everytime?21:26
floridagram<AdamOutler> It depends on how the disk was created @whisperit2me21:26
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me - If you can shoot me over a a list of the applications you need installed, I may be able to set up some time to make a custom live boot this weekend.21:28
floridagram<whisperit2me> Ok im just gonna boot it first and play around first before i get into details.21:29
floridagram<KMyers> @whisperit2me, OK. Then try it with the instructions I posted earlier to see if you like it21:29
floridagram<whisperit2me> @KMyers, Ok thx. Lemme try this out first. My first time. 😬21:29
floridagram<AdamOutler> @KMyers  wtf is going on here?  Why not have her look at the disk and determine if it has persistence?  Boot into it, apt install, reboot, check if changes exist.21:29
floridagram<whisperit2me> @AdamOutler, That's wut i was gonna try first.21:30
floridagram<KMyers> @AdamOutler, @whisperit2me has a unique use case that she explained a few months ago. So this is a bit of carry over. She essentially wants something that leaves no trace of what happened on the flash drive or computer21:31
floridagram<KMyers> BTW @AdamOutler - Look at this file in my failing cabinet21:32
floridagram<KMyers> It is not a backup of my computer, rather a backup computer I can use if needed21:32
floridagram<whisperit2me> @KMyers, U have such good memory. 😳21:33
floridagram<AdamOutler> sorry @KMyers, too late for excuses https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AdamOutler/posts/RCbFv2CwPmw21:35
floridagram<KMyers> @AdamOutler, Jokes on you, responded21:36
floridagram<AdamOutler> You could always get the flash drive just how you want it, then do "sudo su", then "crontab -e", and add the following line to the bottom of the crontab  "@reboot mount -o remount,ro /"21:40
floridagram<AdamOutler> That would cause the computer to remount the root partition as read only on each reboot.21:41
floridagram<AdamOutler> it would ensure no changes could happen.21:41
floridagram<AdamOutler> Certain apps would fail though.21:41

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