| pavlushka | paddatrapper: a very happy birthday for the past and the future | 02:31 |
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| not_found | cheers all... home time | 02:47 |
| andrewlsd | Morning all :-) | 06:09 |
| andrewlsd | Nice Docker/LXD chat yetsterday evening. :-) we do a lot of OpenShift platform (Docker container format + Kubernetes + Persistent Volumes and a whole bunch more coole features) | 06:10 |
| paddatrapper | pavlushka: Thanks | 06:21 |
| paddatrapper | superfly: I know, but just haven't changed it. Requires me redoing things like the ansible playbooks and that requires time... | 06:21 |
| paddatrapper | andrewlsd: sounds cool, never heard of OpenShift before | 06:22 |
| paddatrapper | Morning everyone | 06:22 |
| andrewlsd | paddatrapper: you can test it out via "MiniShift" | 06:22 |
| * paddatrapper goes to look | 06:23 | |
| andrewlsd | paddatrapper: Blurb: "Minishift is an open-source project dedicated to developing and supporting Minishift. The code base is forked from the Minikube project. Minishift helps you run OpenShift locally by running a single-node OpenShift cluster inside a VM. You can try out OpenShift or develop with it, day-to-day, on your local host. Minishift uses libmachine for provisioning VMs, and OpenShift Origin for running the cluster. " | 06:23 |
| andrewlsd | https://github.com/minishift/minishift/ | 06:24 |
| chesedo | morning paddatrapper andrewlsd and all others | 06:24 |
| paddatrapper | morning chesedo | 06:24 |
| andrewlsd | hi chesedo | 06:24 |
| chesedo | docker-compose also helps a lot to have one service per container | 06:24 |
| * chesedo has the home-server setup so that every thing (squid, aria, quassel-core, backuppc, etc) is in a container | 06:25 | |
| andrewlsd | if you add the kubernetes bit, then 1 service per container with several service_containers per pod. so you may have a LAMP pod with one or more Apache containers ; a DB container and some storage volumes | 06:26 |
| andrewlsd | btw, like Ubuntu is doing ZFS as a container backend (with LXD and/or Docker), SUSE is doing btrfs-backed Docker for near instant container creation via btrfs snapshots. | 06:27 |
| andrewlsd | ... expect that around March. | 06:27 |
| * andrewlsd _really_ likes containers | 06:27 | |
| * andrewlsd currently runs LXD (because I'm running Ubuntu). but superfly's point about "inheritance" is definitely a major advantage for Docker. whereby it (in theory) reduces the size requirement for each container image. | 06:28 | |
| paddatrapper | andrewlsd: as long as they aren't using RAID 5 or 6 on btrfs it sounds good :) | 06:29 |
| andrewlsd | I do think, however, that using "layers" must introduce some latency, due to the normal UnionFS layer on layer on layer | 06:29 |
| paddatrapper | I'm sure there must be some performance hit | 06:29 |
| andrewlsd | so you _either_ get inheritance or best performance. | 06:30 |
| andrewlsd | not that inheritance would mean _poor_ performance | 06:30 |
| andrewlsd | one thing that I am not sure of yet, and would love for someone to explain to me ....: What happens to all my old docker image commits. Is there some way of automatically deleting the superceded ones? Otherwise I'd eventually have a massive image registry, and yet only be using a handful of the layers | 06:31 |
| superfly | By the way, my RedHat interview this morning went well. The recruiter guy is going to give my CV to a few teams within RH to look at. | 06:34 |
| superfly | paddatrapper, chesedo, andrewlsd ^^ | 06:34 |
| paddatrapper | superfly: great news! | 06:35 |
| superfly | andrewlsd: intermediary containers get deleted. Also, you can clear your cache | 06:36 |
| superfly | andrewlsd: there are a few tricks | 06:36 |
| andrewlsd | superfly: +1 | 06:36 |
| chesedo | superfly: awesome!! | 06:36 |
| andrewlsd | superfly: wootness (re RH) | 06:36 |
| chesedo | andrewlsd: there is also 'docker image' to list them all and 'docker rmi' to delete once that you want | 06:37 |
| superfly | andrewlsd: also, there is a new distribution called Alpine | 06:37 |
| andrewlsd | superfly: regarding registry, I was thinking of a company environment, where lots of devs are committing images. I guess, they should all build each time from as small a base as possible | 06:37 |
| andrewlsd | superfly: I've got alpine docker and LXD stuff (basically kernel+busybox) | 06:38 |
| chesedo | andrewlsd: why not just docker-compose files around? | 06:38 |
| chesedo | pass * | 06:38 |
| andrewlsd | chesedo: yip, I know about docker-rmi. and I agree wrt docker-compose files being passed around (where passed means `git pull` | 06:38 |
| andrewlsd | ) | 06:38 |
| andrewlsd | s/docker-rmi/docker\ rmi/ | 06:39 |
| superfly | You can also run a local Docker registry | 06:39 |
| andrewlsd | OpenShift and Docker-DC make the orchestration of large app environments very nice. | 06:39 |
| andrewlsd | and the whole build automation CI/CD workflow. | 06:40 |
| andrewlsd | so whilst OpenShift is a RH sponsored project, there is no reason your containers must be RH stuff. | 06:40 |
| andrewlsd | superfly: +1 for local Docker registry. Several examples including the Portus.org project | 06:54 |
| superfly | Night everyone, it's a few minutes away from midnight, and I need to be awake and alert tomorrow, we're driving up the mountain to see the snow. | 06:57 |
| * andrewlsd out for a bit. | 06:57 | |
| andrewlsd | ciao 'fly! | 06:57 |
| superfly | (as in, I am driving) | 06:58 |
| superfly | Bye andrewlsd, love to the wife and kids! | 06:58 |
| nsnzero | morning all | 07:12 |
| Kilos | all the best superfly | 07:19 |
| Kilos | morning everyone | 07:19 |
| unlaudable | morning | 07:20 |
| nsnzero | morning Kilos and unlaudable | 07:23 |
| Kilos | hi nsnzero paddatrapper andrewlsd inetpro | 07:24 |
| * Kilos happy for fly | 07:24 | |
| paddatrapper | Hi Kilos | 07:24 |
| unlaudable | why is Kilos happy for superfly? | 07:50 |
| unlaudable | mmm is there an extension or rfc or something for irc to show all previous history since been disconnected? | 07:51 |
| nsnzero | unlaudable: there should be a link on the top for archived irc chats - you can use that to catch-up | 07:52 |
| nsnzero | unlaudable: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | 07:53 |
| Kilos | because he has a good chance of getting a job at redhat unlaudable | 07:53 |
| Kilos | passed the first interview stage | 07:54 |
| unlaudable | nsnzero, I'm thinking more broadly than just this #, the irc protocol/server itself... | 07:54 |
| unlaudable | nsnzero, I was wondering if irc had such a feature if it would compete better with slack et al.. | 07:55 |
| unlaudable | Kilos, superfly ah ok awesome, good luck :-) | 07:56 |
| nsnzero | maybe a plugin ? which client you use ? | 07:57 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:00 |
| unlaudable | nsnzero, I'm using xchat I think it should be something built into the standard though... then everyone could have an option to view the history someway... | 08:01 |
| * inetpro still prefers irc over slack | 08:01 | |
| inetpro | unlaudable: ^^ | 08:01 |
| unlaudable | nsnzero, /history #ubuntu-za | 08:01 |
| inetpro | you can't beat irc | 08:01 |
| inetpro | just get yourself on quassel with a quassel-core backend | 08:02 |
| unlaudable | inetpro, sure, but you have to admit, features in slack like being able to reply and thread a conversation, and searching history that you were not online for I useful... | 08:02 |
| inetpro | unlaudable: true | 08:03 |
| inetpro | "Let's all jump on the bandwagon of another closed-source, proprietary, walled-garden service and hand over all of our private intra-company communications to a private third-party in another country. GREAT IDEA." | 08:05 |
| unlaudable | this is what got me wondering about it... https://twitter.com/jbeda/status/833008797459230721 | 08:06 |
| inetpro | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10486688 | 08:06 |
| unlaudable | which was prompted by this... https://twitter.com/Kris__Nova/status/832960424438018051 | 08:07 |
| unlaudable | which was prompted by the cost of slack... | 08:07 |
| unlaudable | turns out slack will let the kubernetes community have it for nothing anyway | 08:08 |
| unlaudable | inetpro, agreed, orgs tend to go for it though for convenience | 08:10 |
| nsnzero | irc is an old protocol | 08:11 |
| unlaudable | yeah, probably would never happen... just thinking out loud | 08:17 |
| unlaudable | improving this would be cool... https://twitter.com/jhulten/status/833012133851860992 | 08:17 |
| nsnzero | there already so many protocols out there | 08:27 |
| nsnzero | how much faster is an ssd when used only for booting ? | 08:28 |
| not_found | o/ | 08:44 |
| unlaudable | https://twitter.com/daviottenheimer/status/833495843760005120 :D | 08:48 |
| andrewlsd | Hi Kilos- | 09:10 |
| andrewlsd | unlaudable: Not sure if this is a Quassel feature or not, but perhaps search for "IRC backlog request" | 09:11 |
| andrewlsd | unlaudable: and there is always XMPP. | 09:11 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| andrewlsd | btw, we use Rocket.Chat at work, and theblazehen found a Pidgin plugin for Rocket. So now I can use a native app for that too, instead of an electron (web-wrapper) | 09:12 |
| * andrewlsd goes away again | 09:53 | |
| unlaudable | andrewlsd, just a general thought about irc vs slack et al... can use things like ZNC as well... | 10:02 |
| unlaudable | havent heard of quassel though looking at it... | 10:03 |
| Kilos | please give me a word made with these letters PICHER | 10:06 |
| unlaudable | CHIPER? but that seems to be missing a P | 10:06 |
| Kilos | must be a recocnised word | 10:07 |
| Kilos | oh my | 10:07 |
| Kilos | Maaz define chiper | 10:07 |
| Maaz | Kilos: I don't know about chiper. Maybe you meant Hiper, Chipper, Chirper, Chider, Chimer or chipper? | 10:07 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:07 |
| unlaudable | CIPHER | 10:08 |
| unlaudable | maaz define PICHRE | 10:09 |
| Maaz | unlaudable: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word? | 10:09 |
| unlaudable | maaz define cipher | 10:09 |
| Maaz | unlaudable: Cipher \Ci"pher\, a. Of the nature of a cipher; of no weight or influence. "Twelve cipher bishops." --Milton. [1913 Webster], Cipher \Ci"pher\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Ciphered}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Ciphering}.] To use figures in a mathematical process; to do sums in arithmetic. [1913 Webster] 'T was certain he could write and cipher too. --Goldsmith. [1913 | 10:09 |
| Maaz | Webster], Cipher \Ci"pher\, v. t. 1. To write in occult characters. [1913 Webster] His n… | 10:09 |
| unlaudable | ceriph | 10:09 |
| unlaudable | I'm not that smart I'm using an anagram generator ;-P | 10:10 |
| unlaudable | richer | 10:10 |
| unlaudable | feeling dumber all the time... | 10:10 |
| nsnzero | cipher is a common word / handle amongst 1337 groups | 10:14 |
| nsnzero | anyone watched the story of wikileaks ? | 10:16 |
| unlaudable | which one? | 10:17 |
| unlaudable | oh wait I'm thinking fo Snowden... | 10:17 |
| nsnzero | we steal secrets unlaudable | 10:17 |
| unlaudable | havent seen it... | 10:18 |
| unlaudable | nsnzero, worth it? | 10:18 |
| nsnzero | its a documentary - its informative and an eye-opener | 10:19 |
| nsnzero | HACKERS is the best computer comedy i watched | 10:21 |
| Kilos | ty unlaudable | 10:29 |
| unlaudable | https://riot.im/ | 10:32 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| andrewlsd | unlaudable: that's a client for matrix.org | 11:22 |
| unlaudable | andrewlsd, yes... | 11:22 |
| andrewlsd | unlaudable: ZNC and Quassel are similar. | 11:22 |
| andrewlsd | ^ in that use case | 11:22 |
| andrewlsd | at least, similar to each other. didn't mean to imply similar to Matrix | 11:23 |
| andrewlsd | Matrix has IRC bridges ;-) | 11:23 |
| unlaudable | andrewlsd, dandy, not sure I am such an irc nut that I'm going to use em... | 11:23 |
| unlaudable | I like the idea of being permanently connected though... if only just for idlerpg ;-P | 11:24 |
| andrewlsd | +1 | 11:25 |
| andrewlsd | which is why I use Quassel. | 11:25 |
| andrewlsd | so I can connect via Android + PC simultaneously | 11:25 |
| andrewlsd | (or alternatively) | 11:25 |
| andrewlsd | In normal IRC that would require multiple NICs. | 11:26 |
| andrewlsd | so (probably the same as with ZNC) Quassel makes the IRC connection, I connect to Quassel. | 11:26 |
| andrewlsd | unlaudable: do you know kmf? | 11:29 |
| andrewlsd | unlaudable: thanks for the introduction to Frazz ;-) via Twitter. | 11:30 |
| unlaudable | andrewlsd, we work at the same place :-) | 11:32 |
| andrewlsd | unlaudable: I thought that might be the case ;-) | 11:32 |
| andrewlsd | so unlaudable, do you count time in BC? | 11:33 |
| unlaudable | andrewlsd, do you like Halls? | 11:34 |
| andrewlsd | haha | 11:36 |
| unlaudable | ;-P | 11:36 |
| paddatrapper | andrewlsd: Weechat also does permanent connections quite nicely :) | 11:38 |
| andrewlsd | +1 paddatrapper | 11:46 |
| andrewlsd | Yay. got Zatech slack IRC gateway hooked up now. | 11:47 |
| andrewlsd | happy camper. | 11:47 |
| nsnzero | i need to test gflops in opencl - any ideas ? | 12:11 |
| andrewlsd | something like a stress tester for cuda? | 12:14 |
| nsnzero | andrewlsd: something similar - just to show me the throughput - its for opencl on intel device - the another laptop has the radeon | 12:16 |
| * andrewlsd goes to ask theblazehen | 12:17 | |
| nsnzero | all hail theblazehen | 12:17 |
| andrewlsd | all hail! | 12:18 |
| * andrewlsd finds https://github.com/matszpk/clgpustress | 12:18 | |
| andrewlsd | ^ ***THIS PROGRAM IS VERY DANGEROUS FOR GRAPHICS CARD AND CAN OVERHEAT OR DAMAGE YOUR GRAPHICS CARD*** | 12:19 |
| andrewlsd | warning in bold at http://clgpustress.nativeboinc.org/ | 12:19 |
| nsnzero | lol - i was just copying that text as well | 12:19 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen says "Dunno about gflops, but if it's for comparisons I'd imagine most rendering benchmarks would be alright, since they would be using floating point." | 12:20 |
| nsnzero | fyi - this intel i5 cpu can push 14 gflops which is the 2 gflop more than the ibm ascii white supercomputer built in 2001 | 12:22 |
| andrewlsd | btw nsnzero you can use openCL with `ffmpeg` https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/HWAccelIntro | 12:22 |
| nsnzero | it had 8 192 375mhz processors and costs a cool $110 million | 12:23 |
| nsnzero | how technology has progressed | 12:23 |
| andrewlsd | wow. | 12:24 |
| andrewlsd | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCI_White | 12:24 |
| andrewlsd | weighed 106 tons | 12:24 |
| andrewlsd | The power-to-weight ratio has improved somewhat :-P | 12:25 |
| nsnzero | if anybody is interested used xeon e5 processors are going really cheap - 8 cores 16 threads | 12:26 |
| nsnzero | http://www.techspot.com/review/1155-affordable-dual-xeon-pc/ | 12:27 |
| nsnzero | asteroids@home has a nice lookup to compare real world cpu performance asteroidsathome.net | 12:31 |
| andrewlsd | nsnzero: via Colin: https://github.com/davidrohr/hpl-gpu | 12:34 |
| nsnzero | home time - chat later guys - take care | 12:35 |
| nsnzero | thanks andrewlsd i will look into it | 12:37 |
| === qwebirc98822 is now known as the_nuv | ||
| the_nuv | o/ | 13:00 |
| * the_nuv loer in | 13:00 | |
| paddatrapper | the_nuv: \o | 13:21 |
| === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec | ||
| * pavlushka ahoys ZA | 15:40 | |
| === smile|away is now known as smile | ||
| smile | pavlushka: whole SA? :o | 15:56 |
| pavlushka | smile: :) | 15:56 |
| * smile listens to Paul Young - Everything Must Change | 15:57 | |
| nsnzero | evening folks | 18:18 |
| smile | good evening | 18:35 |
| nsnzero | hi smile | 18:38 |
| smile | Hi :) | 18:38 |
| smile | My car refused to start! :o | 18:39 |
| smile | It's a little of 6 months old | 18:39 |
| smile | * over | 18:39 |
| nsnzero | what car ? | 18:39 |
| smile | a Hyundai i20 | 18:39 |
| nsnzero | lights and hooter works ? | 18:40 |
| smile | Yeah :) | 18:40 |
| nsnzero | battery ruled out | 18:40 |
| nsnzero | ignition lights comming on ? | 18:40 |
| smile | What are those :P | 18:41 |
| smile | you mean dashboard lights? :) | 18:41 |
| nsnzero | the lights on the instrument cluster ? yip | 18:41 |
| smile | just the initial dashboard lights when I put the key inside the slot, not the ones when he's started | 18:42 |
| smile | it's a leased car, I will report the incident to the garage or leasing company, whichever one comes first :) | 18:43 |
| smile | I have 24/7 assistance so if I'm in trouble they will come and get me | 18:43 |
| nsnzero | possible alarm / immoblizer but those are addons i think | 18:45 |
| smile | Whats an immobilizer? | 18:46 |
| nsnzero | fuel cut-off connects to your alarm | 18:47 |
| nsnzero | does the car swing when you turn the key ? | 18:48 |
| smile | Burglars alarm? | 18:48 |
| nsnzero | car alarm | 18:48 |
| smile | Not sure what you mean by swing. It didnt move | 18:49 |
| nsnzero | do you hear the motor turning / cranking ? | 18:50 |
| smile | Yeah | 18:53 |
| smile | Start motor runs | 18:53 |
| nsnzero | problem solved ? | 18:55 |
| smile | For now :-P | 18:55 |
| nsnzero | brb | 18:57 |
| Kilos | night all.sleep tight | 19:26 |
| Kilos | inetpro 202mm and 1 today | 19:26 |
| Kilos | night | 19:27 |
| nsnzero | night KIA | 19:29 |
| nsnzero | night Kilos | 19:29 |
| inetpro | good night km | 19:51 |
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