[02:31] paddatrapper: a very happy birthday for the past and the future [02:47] cheers all... home time [06:09] Morning all :-) [06:10] Nice Docker/LXD chat yetsterday evening. :-) we do a lot of OpenShift platform (Docker container format + Kubernetes + Persistent Volumes and a whole bunch more coole features) [06:21] pavlushka: Thanks [06:21] superfly: I know, but just haven't changed it. Requires me redoing things like the ansible playbooks and that requires time... [06:22] andrewlsd: sounds cool, never heard of OpenShift before [06:22] Morning everyone [06:22] paddatrapper: you can test it out via "MiniShift" [06:23] * paddatrapper goes to look [06:23] paddatrapper: Blurb: "Minishift is an open-source project dedicated to developing and supporting Minishift. The code base is forked from the Minikube project. Minishift helps you run OpenShift locally by running a single-node OpenShift cluster inside a VM. You can try out OpenShift or develop with it, day-to-day, on your local host. Minishift uses libmachine for provisioning VMs, and OpenShift Origin for running the cluster. " [06:24] https://github.com/minishift/minishift/ [06:24] morning paddatrapper andrewlsd and all others [06:24] morning chesedo [06:24] hi chesedo [06:24] docker-compose also helps a lot to have one service per container [06:25] * chesedo has the home-server setup so that every thing (squid, aria, quassel-core, backuppc, etc) is in a container [06:26] if you add the kubernetes bit, then 1 service per container with several service_containers per pod. so you may have a LAMP pod with one or more Apache containers ; a DB container and some storage volumes [06:27] btw, like Ubuntu is doing ZFS as a container backend (with LXD and/or Docker), SUSE is doing btrfs-backed Docker for near instant container creation via btrfs snapshots. [06:27] ... expect that around March. [06:27] * andrewlsd _really_ likes containers [06:28] * andrewlsd currently runs LXD (because I'm running Ubuntu). but superfly's point about "inheritance" is definitely a major advantage for Docker. whereby it (in theory) reduces the size requirement for each container image. [06:29] andrewlsd: as long as they aren't using RAID 5 or 6 on btrfs it sounds good :) [06:29] I do think, however, that using "layers" must introduce some latency, due to the normal UnionFS layer on layer on layer [06:29] I'm sure there must be some performance hit [06:30] so you _either_ get inheritance or best performance. [06:30] not that inheritance would mean _poor_ performance [06:31] one thing that I am not sure of yet, and would love for someone to explain to me ....: What happens to all my old docker image commits. Is there some way of automatically deleting the superceded ones? Otherwise I'd eventually have a massive image registry, and yet only be using a handful of the layers [06:34] By the way, my RedHat interview this morning went well. The recruiter guy is going to give my CV to a few teams within RH to look at. [06:34] paddatrapper, chesedo, andrewlsd ^^ [06:35] superfly: great news! [06:36] andrewlsd: intermediary containers get deleted. Also, you can clear your cache [06:36] andrewlsd: there are a few tricks [06:36] superfly: +1 [06:36] superfly: awesome!! [06:36] superfly: wootness (re RH) [06:37] andrewlsd: there is also 'docker image' to list them all and 'docker rmi' to delete once that you want [06:37] andrewlsd: also, there is a new distribution called Alpine [06:37] superfly: regarding registry, I was thinking of a company environment, where lots of devs are committing images. I guess, they should all build each time from as small a base as possible [06:38] superfly: I've got alpine docker and LXD stuff (basically kernel+busybox) [06:38] andrewlsd: why not just docker-compose files around? [06:38] pass * [06:38] chesedo: yip, I know about docker-rmi. and I agree wrt docker-compose files being passed around (where passed means `git pull` [06:38] ) [06:39] s/docker-rmi/docker\ rmi/ [06:39] You can also run a local Docker registry [06:39] OpenShift and Docker-DC make the orchestration of large app environments very nice. [06:40] and the whole build automation CI/CD workflow. [06:40] so whilst OpenShift is a RH sponsored project, there is no reason your containers must be RH stuff. [06:54] superfly: +1 for local Docker registry. Several examples including the Portus.org project [06:57] Night everyone, it's a few minutes away from midnight, and I need to be awake and alert tomorrow, we're driving up the mountain to see the snow. [06:57] * andrewlsd out for a bit. [06:57] ciao 'fly! [06:58] (as in, I am driving) [06:58] Bye andrewlsd, love to the wife and kids! [07:12] morning all [07:19] all the best superfly [07:19] morning everyone [07:20] morning [07:23] morning Kilos and unlaudable [07:24] hi nsnzero paddatrapper andrewlsd inetpro [07:24] * Kilos happy for fly [07:24] Hi Kilos [07:50] why is Kilos happy for superfly? [07:51] mmm is there an extension or rfc or something for irc to show all previous history since been disconnected? [07:52] unlaudable: there should be a link on the top for archived irc chats - you can use that to catch-up [07:53] unlaudable: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [07:53] because he has a good chance of getting a job at redhat unlaudable [07:54] passed the first interview stage [07:54] nsnzero, I'm thinking more broadly than just this #, the irc protocol/server itself... [07:55] nsnzero, I was wondering if irc had such a feature if it would compete better with slack et al.. [07:56] Kilos, superfly ah ok awesome, good luck :-) [07:57] maybe a plugin ? which client you use ? [08:00] good mornings [08:01] nsnzero, I'm using xchat I think it should be something built into the standard though... then everyone could have an option to view the history someway... [08:01] * inetpro still prefers irc over slack [08:01] unlaudable: ^^ [08:01] nsnzero, /history #ubuntu-za [08:01] you can't beat irc [08:02] just get yourself on quassel with a quassel-core backend [08:02] inetpro, sure, but you have to admit, features in slack like being able to reply and thread a conversation, and searching history that you were not online for I useful... [08:03] unlaudable: true [08:05] "Let's all jump on the bandwagon of another closed-source, proprietary, walled-garden service and hand over all of our private intra-company communications to a private third-party in another country. GREAT IDEA." [08:06] this is what got me wondering about it... https://twitter.com/jbeda/status/833008797459230721 [08:06] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10486688 [08:07] which was prompted by this... https://twitter.com/Kris__Nova/status/832960424438018051 [08:07] which was prompted by the cost of slack... [08:08] turns out slack will let the kubernetes community have it for nothing anyway [08:10] inetpro, agreed, orgs tend to go for it though for convenience [08:11] irc is an old protocol [08:17] yeah, probably would never happen... just thinking out loud [08:17] improving this would be cool... https://twitter.com/jhulten/status/833012133851860992 [08:27] there already so many protocols out there [08:28] how much faster is an ssd when used only for booting ? [08:44] o/ [08:48] https://twitter.com/daviottenheimer/status/833495843760005120 :D [09:10] Hi Kilos- [09:11] unlaudable: Not sure if this is a Quassel feature or not, but perhaps search for "IRC backlog request" [09:11] unlaudable: and there is always XMPP. === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [09:12] btw, we use Rocket.Chat at work, and theblazehen found a Pidgin plugin for Rocket. So now I can use a native app for that too, instead of an electron (web-wrapper) [09:53] * andrewlsd goes away again [10:02] andrewlsd, just a general thought about irc vs slack et al... can use things like ZNC as well... [10:03] havent heard of quassel though looking at it... [10:06] please give me a word made with these letters PICHER [10:06] CHIPER? but that seems to be missing a P [10:07] must be a recocnised word [10:07] oh my [10:07] Maaz define chiper [10:07] Kilos: I don't know about chiper. Maybe you meant Hiper, Chipper, Chirper, Chider, Chimer or chipper? [10:07] ai! [10:08] CIPHER [10:09] maaz define PICHRE [10:09] unlaudable: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word? [10:09] maaz define cipher [10:09] unlaudable: Cipher \Ci"pher\, a. Of the nature of a cipher; of no weight or influence. "Twelve cipher bishops." --Milton. [1913 Webster], Cipher \Ci"pher\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Ciphered}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Ciphering}.] To use figures in a mathematical process; to do sums in arithmetic. [1913 Webster] 'T was certain he could write and cipher too. --Goldsmith. [1913 [10:09] Webster], Cipher \Ci"pher\, v. t. 1. To write in occult characters. [1913 Webster] His n… [10:09] ceriph [10:10] I'm not that smart I'm using an anagram generator ;-P [10:10] richer [10:10] feeling dumber all the time... [10:14] cipher is a common word / handle amongst 1337 groups [10:16] anyone watched the story of wikileaks ? [10:17] which one? [10:17] oh wait I'm thinking fo Snowden... [10:17] we steal secrets unlaudable [10:18] havent seen it... [10:18] nsnzero, worth it? [10:19] its a documentary - its informative and an eye-opener [10:21] HACKERS is the best computer comedy i watched [10:29] ty unlaudable [10:32] https://riot.im/ === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [11:22] unlaudable: that's a client for matrix.org [11:22] andrewlsd, yes... [11:22] unlaudable: ZNC and Quassel are similar. [11:22] ^ in that use case [11:23] at least, similar to each other. didn't mean to imply similar to Matrix [11:23] Matrix has IRC bridges ;-) [11:23] andrewlsd, dandy, not sure I am such an irc nut that I'm going to use em... [11:24] I like the idea of being permanently connected though... if only just for idlerpg ;-P [11:25] +1 [11:25] which is why I use Quassel. [11:25] so I can connect via Android + PC simultaneously [11:25] (or alternatively) [11:26] In normal IRC that would require multiple NICs. [11:26] so (probably the same as with ZNC) Quassel makes the IRC connection, I connect to Quassel. [11:29] unlaudable: do you know kmf? [11:30] unlaudable: thanks for the introduction to Frazz ;-) via Twitter. [11:32] andrewlsd, we work at the same place :-) [11:32] unlaudable: I thought that might be the case ;-) [11:33] so unlaudable, do you count time in BC? [11:34] andrewlsd, do you like Halls? [11:36] haha [11:36] ;-P [11:38] andrewlsd: Weechat also does permanent connections quite nicely :) [11:46] +1 paddatrapper [11:47] Yay. got Zatech slack IRC gateway hooked up now. [11:47] happy camper. [12:11] i need to test gflops in opencl - any ideas ? [12:14] something like a stress tester for cuda? [12:16] andrewlsd: something similar - just to show me the throughput - its for opencl on intel device - the another laptop has the radeon [12:17] * andrewlsd goes to ask theblazehen [12:17] all hail theblazehen [12:18] all hail! [12:18] * andrewlsd finds https://github.com/matszpk/clgpustress [12:19] ^ ***THIS PROGRAM IS VERY DANGEROUS FOR GRAPHICS CARD AND CAN OVERHEAT OR DAMAGE YOUR GRAPHICS CARD*** [12:19] warning in bold at http://clgpustress.nativeboinc.org/ [12:19] lol - i was just copying that text as well [12:20] theblazehen says "Dunno about gflops, but if it's for comparisons I'd imagine most rendering benchmarks would be alright, since they would be using floating point." [12:22] fyi - this intel i5 cpu can push 14 gflops which is the 2 gflop more than the ibm ascii white supercomputer built in 2001 [12:22] btw nsnzero you can use openCL with `ffmpeg` https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/HWAccelIntro [12:23] it had 8 192 375mhz processors and costs a cool $110 million [12:23] how technology has progressed [12:24] wow. [12:24] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCI_White [12:24] weighed 106 tons [12:25] The power-to-weight ratio has improved somewhat :-P [12:26] if anybody is interested used xeon e5 processors are going really cheap - 8 cores 16 threads [12:27] http://www.techspot.com/review/1155-affordable-dual-xeon-pc/ [12:31] asteroids@home has a nice lookup to compare real world cpu performance asteroidsathome.net [12:34] nsnzero: via Colin: https://github.com/davidrohr/hpl-gpu [12:35] home time - chat later guys - take care [12:37] thanks andrewlsd i will look into it === qwebirc98822 is now known as the_nuv [13:00] o/ [13:00] * the_nuv loer in [13:21] the_nuv: \o === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [15:40] * pavlushka ahoys ZA === smile|away is now known as smile [15:56] pavlushka: whole SA? :o [15:56] smile: :) [15:57] * smile listens to Paul Young - Everything Must Change [18:18] evening folks [18:35] good evening [18:38] hi smile [18:38] Hi :) [18:39] My car refused to start! :o [18:39] It's a little of 6 months old [18:39] * over [18:39] what car ? [18:39] a Hyundai i20 [18:40] lights and hooter works ? [18:40] Yeah :) [18:40] battery ruled out [18:40] ignition lights comming on ? [18:41] What are those :P [18:41] you mean dashboard lights? :) [18:41] the lights on the instrument cluster ? yip [18:42] just the initial dashboard lights when I put the key inside the slot, not the ones when he's started [18:43] it's a leased car, I will report the incident to the garage or leasing company, whichever one comes first :) [18:43] I have 24/7 assistance so if I'm in trouble they will come and get me [18:45] possible alarm / immoblizer but those are addons i think [18:46] Whats an immobilizer? [18:47] fuel cut-off connects to your alarm [18:48] does the car swing when you turn the key ? [18:48] Burglars alarm? [18:48] car alarm [18:49] Not sure what you mean by swing. It didnt move [18:50] do you hear the motor turning / cranking ? [18:53] Yeah [18:53] Start motor runs [18:55] problem solved ? [18:55] For now :-P [18:57] brb [19:26] night all.sleep tight [19:26] inetpro 202mm and 1 today [19:27] night [19:29] night KIA [19:29] night Kilos [19:51] good night km